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Speaker 1: Welcome to three sixty Bube from every angle, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by nib Joining me again the great Gordon Tallas.

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Speaker 1: Let's been the journat Australian Buzz Rothfield and Brent Reid.

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Speaker 1: Another epic round of football and there's plenty to talk

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Speaker 1: about yet again tonight on your Monday night. Now, what

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Speaker 1: a round it was, Gordy. What did you like from

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Speaker 1: the weekend's footy?

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Speaker 2: I liked a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think that Broncos staying just staying in touch, keeping

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Speaker 3: their dream alive with the Dragons and the Nights. I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, just the eight still being alive over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Buzz.

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Speaker 4: I've been worried about you all weekend.

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Speaker 1: When are you ever worried about me?

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Speaker 5: I'm worried about you. The Roosters and the Bulldogs are

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Speaker 5: both on fire. They're your two clubs in the finals.

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Speaker 5: You're going to have to put on a jersey. But

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Speaker 5: you've got to make a decision. I don't have to

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Speaker 5: make it a sision, you have to make it. I

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Speaker 5: love them both, Buzz, yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing to see them doing so well. Buzz.

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Speaker 2: You know, but what are you when they play each other?

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go for both. That's all right, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: You need one of those.

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Speaker 1: Jersey you know, I'll get half.

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Speaker 5: You used to be Roosters when Cannabur, when Cannabur going

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Speaker 5: off for you didn't want a bar.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I was just very honest about just how you jumped

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Speaker 1: off the Sharks. But you're back on them, thank you,

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Speaker 1: you're back.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm not jumping off the Broncos. B I think

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Speaker 6: there's still a big chance to making the finals. Actually,

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Speaker 6: I think they're a big chance. I think Kevy was

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Speaker 6: very confident after the game.

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Speaker 2: The other one was and I'm with him.

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Speaker 1: Funny you mentioned that ready, because the race for the

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Speaker 1: eight is on, Let's have a look at the teams

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Speaker 1: that are fighting for that eighth position.

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Speaker 2: Now the Dragons.

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Speaker 1: You can see there are two points ahead of the

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Speaker 1: four teams. If the Dragons win both games, then they're

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Speaker 1: in the in the eighth in the eighth position and

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Speaker 1: to secure their spot in the finals. But the Broncos

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Speaker 1: can possibly win one game and still make it. The

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Speaker 1: Dolphins can win one game and make it. The Knights

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Speaker 1: and the Raiders need to win both games, and of

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Speaker 1: course they need the Dragons to at least lose one,

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Speaker 1: as do the Broncos and Dolphins. So there's a bit

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Speaker 1: going on here. There's jostling four positions. The top four

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Speaker 1: looks to be sewn up, the Dogs in fifth position,

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Speaker 1: but with the Sharks playing the way that they are

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Speaker 1: and the Dragon and the draw with the Panthers, it

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Speaker 1: looks like this is the real battle. How do you

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Speaker 1: guys see it? It is pretty exciting stuff at the moment.

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Speaker 5: On topping the Knights to finish shades and the reason

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Speaker 5: being they're falling against isn't great, but it's better than

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Speaker 5: the Dragons.

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Speaker 4: You see the Knights draw.

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Speaker 5: They've got the Titans at home this week and then

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Speaker 5: on Old Boys Day they've got the Titans at the

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Speaker 5: Dolphins at home. The way they played on the weekend,

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Speaker 5: I think they'll win both and they've got a superior

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Speaker 5: four and against the Dragos, I think they're a great chance.

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Speaker 2: Newcastle, yeah, I saw. I think the Broncos.

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Speaker 6: They've got Melbourne last round looks so Melbourne will be

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Speaker 6: pretty strong, full strength, just about a full strength team in.

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Speaker 2: That last round.

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Speaker 6: So I think if they get over Melbourne, I reckon

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Speaker 6: the Broncos will get there and I think by then

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Speaker 6: they'll have res waltshback Payehss will probably come back in

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Speaker 6: the finals as well.

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Speaker 2: I think if they make it, if.

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Speaker 1: You're one of the top teams at the moment, the

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Speaker 1: Broncos other side, you don't want to make.

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Speaker 2: It because like recent pain that's right.

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Speaker 1: But with Reese Pain back into the team and they

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Speaker 1: are I would say the biggest threat out of in

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Speaker 1: no disrespect to these teams, but at their best would

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but guys, Melbourne are going to be at full strength.

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Speaker 5: They're resting players this week. We'll talk about that later,

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Speaker 5: but I don't think beat Melbourne that last week.

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Speaker 2: It's tough.

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Speaker 1: We well, Kevy was very confident after the game on

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Speaker 2: Let's have a listen.

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Speaker 6: Do you think, I mean, if you if you make

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Speaker 6: the finals, do you think you can mounts.

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Speaker 1: We're going to make the finals, so.

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Speaker 2: I guess when you do, though, keV, do you think

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Speaker 7: We will make the finals, but we've got to play

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Speaker 7: well next week.

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Speaker 1: Against Red Cliff. There is no if we will make

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Speaker 1: the finals from your extreme confidence from.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well you like it from your coach on

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Speaker 3: the MSA and James Graham goes, well, I like it

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Speaker 3: and he's latest retiring player if he guys I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure or I hope to keep the to keep the

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Speaker 3: dress room alive. They're under the pump here what was

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Speaker 3: what sixteen kneel down or whatever. But it was a

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Speaker 3: game for the true believers. They've still got a bit

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Speaker 3: of work to do Brisbane, but they're still fighting. They're

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Speaker 3: still in there throwing punches and I like it.

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of manifesting, so yeah, think about it

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Speaker 1: as positivity.

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Speaker 2: Is your positive buzz?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, am.

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Speaker 1: It runs off in all of us.

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Speaker 2: That's a good nice what about you read? Look, I

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Speaker 6: I said, I think, you know, if they make the finals,

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Speaker 6: and I think they're every chance used to re swashed

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Speaker 6: some real damage in the finals. And you're right, break

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Speaker 6: I think teams in the eight they would hate to

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Speaker 6: see the Broncos in their come finals time.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying Broncos, you're saying Knights. Is it a

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Speaker 1: red pen through the rest look St.

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Speaker 5: Georgia a slight hape, But the way they played yesterday,

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't missps.

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Speaker 4: They lost both their last two games.

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Speaker 1: That's a big cool.

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Speaker 2: But they're playing Paramount.

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Speaker 3: They played Raiders awful?

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Speaker 5: Are they Paramatta are not going awful? You know they've

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Speaker 5: been in front of a few of their games.

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Speaker 1: But they're shown that they do bounce back.

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Speaker 2: The dragon is that they've been a bit in consent,

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Speaker 1: But they do have a good performance in them and

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Speaker 1: they've only got need well, they might only need one

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Speaker 6: I reckon I need to they both, particularly that four

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Speaker 6: and against Theirs, I think they need to win them both.

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Speaker 6: They only win one of them. As Buzz said, the

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Speaker 6: Knights got a soft draw coming in. I expect them

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Speaker 6: to win them both. And I reckon the Broncos are

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Speaker 6: probably going to play, so they need to win both

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Speaker 6: those games.

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Speaker 1: Their point you make, they're ready after that. Being up

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Speaker 1: the minor premiership, Cragbell and he made no apologies when

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Speaker 1: outlining his plan to rest players against the Cowboys this week.

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Speaker 7: We'll be doing some resting this week. We might even

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Speaker 7: do a little bit in the last gap. I don't know,

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Speaker 7: but certainly this week we got a five day turnaround

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Speaker 7: playing and had the buye, so we'll be resting a

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Speaker 7: few players this week.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I don't think.

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Speaker 7: That's a real good look for the competition, but you know,

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Speaker 7: we've got to do what we think is right for us,

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Speaker 7: and we'll do that.

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Speaker 1: Have I there Storm Stars placed in cotton Wool ahead

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Speaker 1: of finals, charge set to rest up to ten players

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Speaker 5: I don't like it at all. There's talk, as you said,

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Speaker 5: ten players. I understand they've got a premiership to win

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Speaker 5: and they've had a.

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Speaker 4: Tough, long slog all year.

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Speaker 5: I think when you sign up for your Fox Tell

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Speaker 5: or your Talent however you consume Mugbi League, you don't

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Speaker 5: expect to second grade teams and that's what they'll be

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Speaker 5: putting on the park this weekend. I think of the

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Speaker 5: fans who come from remote areas in North Queensland. They

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Speaker 5: travel up to six hours to get to a game

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Speaker 5: of forty to see Pappenhouse and play Grant Hiss all

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Speaker 5: those got I just think you're ripping people off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you make a lot of valid points and you're

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Speaker 3: probably right. But if I'm a Cowboys fan, I'm over

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Speaker 3: the moon that I'm going to not play Melbourne at

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Speaker 3: their best and didn't my confidence. And it is a

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Speaker 3: long trip. It was thirty two in Brisbane a day,

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Speaker 3: have taken seven or eight hours to get there and

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Speaker 3: it's the shortest turnaround. And it's about them now winning

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Speaker 3: the Grand Final. It's not it's not making the finals

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Speaker 3: and winning one game. It's about that.

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Speaker 5: Gordon, Why don't South South season is done? They've probably

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Speaker 5: got three or four players who need off season surgery.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Why don't they stand down five to six players? Well

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Speaker 4: that's what I main.

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Speaker 2: They're going in Melbourne, but they've got an obligation.

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Speaker 1: How can you see Outh to Melbourne? Melbourne have earn't

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Speaker 1: the right. They've won a premier, a minor premiership where

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Speaker 1: no one thought they could. They have got to a

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Speaker 1: position now where they can have the luxury of resting

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Speaker 1: their players to win a premiership because every fan and

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Speaker 1: every player wants their team and their own team to

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Speaker 1: win a comp Greg Bellamy. They're getting rewarded for hard work.

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Speaker 1: They're getting rewarded for success. They're getting rewarded and the

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Speaker 1: luxury now to prepare for the finals and winning a

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Speaker 1: Grand final, which is what we all want to achieve.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to go well, hang on the North

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Speaker 1: Queensland fans are going to be upset, which they're not

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Speaker 1: because they're going to probably win the game.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I don't agree with that what you said, Gordon.

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Speaker 5: I think they travel because they like watching superstars in

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Speaker 5: their own likes and they like to see these boys.

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Speaker 5: They probably only get one game every two years to

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Speaker 5: see Grant and company.

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Speaker 4: I think there's an obligation.

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Speaker 2: Can you not see what Melbourne will do?

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Speaker 5: I started off by saying, I understand they've got a

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Speaker 5: title to win, which is that I don't like reserve

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Speaker 5: grade players, and look, I'll take that. I don't like

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Speaker 5: coaches filling reserve grade teams in an NRL competition.

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Speaker 6: I don't like, but I would also so you can't

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Speaker 6: really draw a line between Melbourne and South because Souse

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Speaker 6: owe their fans something. They owe their fans a performance

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Speaker 6: because that Melbourne don't They've given their fans this year.

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying, if they might fast track surgery by

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Speaker 5: two weeks and get them back earlier next.

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Speaker 6: Day, they know their fans something this year. Given what

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Speaker 6: they put up this year. They owe their fans to

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Speaker 5: You're putting an inferior product onto television and to the fans.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sorry if everyone.

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Speaker 3: I'm playing with a reserve grade half back and it's

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Speaker 3: And up until ten weeks ago, teams can't rest players.

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Speaker 3: they can do it, but they can't.

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Speaker 1: One of the best games like well, they're playing for pride,

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Speaker 6: One of the best games last season was Melbourne Brisbane.

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Speaker 2: It was a fantastic game. Of football.

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Speaker 5: The comp Well, do you need to rest us?

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Speaker 4: What do you think.

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Speaker 2: I help you with this game?

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Speaker 1: Ahead of football? Great miss Stephen Crichton should have been

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Speaker 8: Not should have been sinbin. I don't think there's any question.

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Speaker 8: I don't think anyone argues with that. We have listened

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Speaker 1: Huge talk all weekend about this Crichton hit on Roger

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Speaker 2: But still a lot of fans, a lot of.

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Speaker 2: How did we see this well?

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Speaker 6: And it's clear that should have been a sin, Ben,

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Speaker 6: I think Graham's right. I think they've got the vast

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Speaker 3: The weekend they got not every time someone gets hit

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Speaker 2: But this one's clearly wrong. Gordy, Yeah, clearly wrong.

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Speaker 3: Looking at the tackle, you didn't think it looked that bad.

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Speaker 3: It was Roger falling over. That's when you're well well.

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Speaker 2: Until I saw that. I think that does look bad.

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Speaker 3: I think that looks bad. That's the shoulder, the head

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Speaker 3: slowing down. But it didn't look vicious. So sometimes that.

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Speaker 5: Was obvious because it was a category one though he

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Speaker 5: what happened.

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Speaker 2: In the tackles, Gordy.

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Speaker 6: You miss these things because so quickly and it takes

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Speaker 1: Everything in the game at the moment is malicious. Everything

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Speaker 1: we're treating nothing with accident like it's an accident. Everything

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Speaker 2: That's right, bra. I think there's been I've seen contact

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Speaker 1: The thing is is that now you and most people

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Speaker 2: I don't expect that. You don't see that. I don't

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Speaker 5: It needs to be punished in this era of a

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Speaker 5: I don't want to ban the long to kick off.

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Speaker 5: I tell you, Graham and Isley said, there've been reason

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Speaker 5: one off mistake on the weekend. You go and tell

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Speaker 5: that to a manly Seagulls fan who had three players

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Speaker 4: Than what Stephen Crichton did.

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Speaker 5: So what I'm telling it affects every club and every fan.

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Speaker 4: While it was one era.

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Speaker 6: Just because you're this one wrong doesn't mean the three

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Speaker 4: Got this one wrong and we need to talk about that.

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Speaker 5: Manly West Tiger's game, Jake Turbo did a sensational front

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Speaker 4: It was one of the best tackles I've seen, and

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Speaker 6: Different issue when we were talking about contact with the

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if that OK.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that Are we happy that that's turning the bin

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Speaker 2: Are we happy as fans? That's a penalty, that's just

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Speaker 6: In my opinion, that's the only one break I'll give

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, they're too soft for ten in the bin.

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Speaker 2: The two of them have been symbid for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But that's my opinion. I think that we're at

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Speaker 1: enough force and it's dangerous or there's intent. But at

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Speaker 1: You're getting ten in the bin. That's what it's come to.

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Speaker 6: The penalties fair, But that does happen. I don't think

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Speaker 6: I think we're seeing games there's accident on contact occasion

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Speaker 2: Boy just slaps.

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Speaker 6: Someone and it doesn't go to the bin. I reckon

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Speaker 1: Right, Let's have the Kem Murray one. This was twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours later. Ken Murray did get ten. It's in

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Speaker 5: Had to be a simb that's it has to be

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Speaker 5: a sin, of course it does.

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Speaker 1: That's where at right now. That has to be a

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Speaker 1: swinging arm to the head. See, but this is swinging

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Speaker 4: It was a swing arm.

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Speaker 2: But this is my point.

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Speaker 1: So we look at this now and just go that'stand

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just asking, Yeah, I'm happy with that. You

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Speaker 5: I forget things, but no, but it's a worldwide crackdown

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Speaker 5: problem with it. This is so separate. And I said

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Speaker 5: aim lower, That's all you got to do.

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Speaker 4: Aim lower.

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Speaker 5: And until they keep panalizing players and sin bending players,

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Speaker 6: Break Can's fighting this in the judiciary would be really interesting.

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Speaker 6: Now he's challenging I think the grading of because I

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Speaker 6: I look at that and I go, it's not the

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Speaker 6: and it was still high and there was a touch

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Speaker 1: That touch of a swing is now tend in the bin,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And touch of a swing in

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Speaker 1: the head break And that's okay if that's the rule.

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Speaker 1: If it's hitting the head and you're ten, then every

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Speaker 2: In every fan it was.

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Speaker 5: Locked up by two defenders there, mate, do you think

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Speaker 1: I think it is now, I think in today's game is.

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Speaker 1: But I question whether it should be still. I know

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Speaker 2: That's my point. We look at that now and we

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be I question.

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Speaker 1: I think there are accidents that happen in our game,

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Speaker 1: and there's accidents where the contact is not severe it's

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Speaker 1: many times this season, and I just think we're going

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Speaker 1: I think we're going a little bit too far with it.

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Speaker 1: You guys can say I'm wrong, and that's okay.

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Speaker 2: That's what.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate that, But I will say in about

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Speaker 5: blatantly obvious ones, we do need.

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Speaker 4: Consistence, and I agree that we can't have. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: He's a victed I just don't want to get to

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Speaker 3: where it was. But any time anybody got hit in

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Speaker 3: what I don't like.

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Speaker 6: I think that's already happening. I think that's I think

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Speaker 3: But Roger didn't Roger. Roger jumped up and that's and

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Speaker 3: that's the honorable part of the game. And I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think Cam Murray's was a sand

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Speaker 3: have I thought it was so clear. Seriously, it's not

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Speaker 3: vicious like send off backround.

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Speaker 5: Already held by two bikes and he came into the

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Speaker 4: How else did he hit him?

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's swing. I think he just come

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Speaker 3: in and tackled him. Wouldn't say it's a swinging.

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Speaker 4: Around the chin.

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Speaker 3: Go back and get some old footage out of swinging arms.

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Speaker 1: But thats a swinging arm, bust a. Look at this, right.

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Speaker 5: You don't keep turning the clock back to the old

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Speaker 5: days and what was except we didn't know what we

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Speaker 2: I get all.

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Speaker 3: That, I get them, But alls I'm saying is not

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Speaker 3: every time you get hit in the head, it deserves

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Speaker 6: Of course, saying it doesn't happen every time it doesn't happens.

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Speaker 6: We have contacts, get a lot, right, that doesn't get simpin.

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Speaker 6: Happens all the time every week. Who contact with it.

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Speaker 6: That doesn't get simpin because.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that should have been sinbin. And there's

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Speaker 3: what we're not going to be perfect.

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Speaker 1: The good needs to come out of all this is

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Speaker 1: that it's looking more likely the Buzzer Summit's going.

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Speaker 5: To happen summer. Wayne Bennett did a great interview with

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Speaker 5: Paul Crawley about six eight weeks ago on the Fox

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Speaker 5: Sports website. And when Wayne jumps on board and calls

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Speaker 5: for summit, people like Peter Velandi's and Andrew Abdo stop

448
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Speaker 5: and listen. And he's got the support of a lot

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Speaker 5: of other senior coaches in the game. I'm talking Desi Hasler,

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Speaker 5: I'm talking Ricky Stewart who are on board in this

451
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Speaker 5: and they want to have some sort of input into

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Speaker 5: trying to get these ten minute segments off three sixty

453
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Speaker 5: and all these arguments about the policing of the game.

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Speaker 5: And I think it's I think we need it, I

455
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Speaker 5: really do. And what I think you'll find next year

456
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Speaker 5: is that it is that we'll have less people in

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Speaker 5: the bunker, which will make more consistency. The other thing

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Speaker 5: I'm hearing is they're looking at NFL, that they're looking

459
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Speaker 5: at EPO, they're looking at all major sports. And the

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Speaker 5: good news is they're trying to give more power back

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Speaker 5: to the referee, who's actually controlling the game.

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Speaker 1: I think they should and are you confident that I

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Speaker 1: think the referee being over coached And I think that

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Speaker 1: they're losing their instincts in that because these referees are talented,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like they're not making calls themselves because

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Speaker 1: they've lost confidence because there's so many rules and regulations

467
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Speaker 1: and it's so fine line between the penalty and a

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Speaker 1: ten in the bin. And you know, I just think

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Speaker 1: it feels to me watching games that the referees have

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Speaker 1: got to be given more responsibility. They're refer in the game,

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Speaker 1: they can feel the speed of the game, They've done

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Speaker 1: it their whole lives. It's a concern I think.

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Speaker 3: Can I just ask, do you trust the coaches they

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Speaker 3: have no self interest and put the game first.

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Speaker 5: The coaches won't be the only voices as part of

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Speaker 5: this inquiry. Or you guys seem to think it's great

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Speaker 5: calling it a summit, but look, let's call.

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Speaker 3: It a junket. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, where is it going to be? I asked that

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Speaker 1: last time is going to be seven star hotel somewhere?

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a lot more important that this gets

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Speaker 5: sorted out than because the bug has been around since

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Speaker 5: Super Lege okay, and it's going downhill this year. We've

485
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Speaker 5: seen far too many incidents and mistakes up there, people

486
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Speaker 5: like Liam Kennedy with respector should not be in the

487
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Speaker 5: bunk to make decisions, like Stephen Kriche. They need their

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Speaker 5: best operators in there.

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Speaker 1: Really, you haven't been a fan of this summer?

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Speaker 2: Have you you a fan? Well?

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Speaker 6: Well, first of us, know what constitutes the something? How

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Speaker 6: many voices that involved? And we don't need a many

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Speaker 6: voices break The problem is we have too many people.

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Speaker 2: Waving in with opinions on everything.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's the reason Peter Landy and Andrew and

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Speaker 6: Graham are in charge of the game.

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Speaker 2: That's to make the decisions. What do we need?

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Speaker 6: But they're discribing seventeen coaches telling us what to do.

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Speaker 5: How the bunk I didn't coaches realie, I said, we

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Speaker 5: need the sharpest minds in the game in a room

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Speaker 5: with Graham and Esley, with Andrew, Abdo and Peter for

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Speaker 5: Landy's because they need to broaden.

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Speaker 6: What do they need to sit in the room? Buss,

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Speaker 6: Why can't Graham do.

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Speaker 4: If you're happy we don't call to some we're called

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Speaker 4: a farm.

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Speaker 2: But what they do?

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Speaker 6: What can they do with the do every go out

509
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Speaker 6: and meet the coaches, talk to them, take their input,

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Speaker 6: and then you make a decision. That's what great Andrew

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Speaker 6: and Peter are there to do to make those decisions.

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Speaker 3: Go and talk to the coaches, you know, you know

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Speaker 3: as well as wouldn't that take too much time Instead

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Speaker 3: of getting everybody in one thing, they got the whole

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Speaker 3: off season. Just throw a big bone in there and

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Speaker 3: let everybody ever bite of it and see where we come.

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Speaker 1: You're concerned that the coaches will want to change rules

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Speaker 1: they would suit their teams.

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Speaker 2: That what you're worried.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's what you know, that's part of the issue.

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Speaker 3: To the players.

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Speaker 2: We stopped that's part of the reason we stopped having coaches.

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Speaker 4: I'd have soon your players in there too, I really would.

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Speaker 3: And what about the future stars of the game.

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Speaker 4: I don't know whether that's necessary.

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Speaker 5: Good not get a dozen sharp people into that room

527
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Speaker 5: for the betterment of the game, make some.

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Speaker 1: With all due respect to Abdover and Andy's and Isley,

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Speaker 1: if they're making decisions, that's fine, but you want them

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Speaker 1: to have input from some of the greats, some of

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Speaker 1: the immortals, the best coach coaches.

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Speaker 2: Mind.

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Speaker 1: I just I think that, you know, for them to

534
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Speaker 1: make such important decisions that will impact our game and

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Speaker 1: where it goes in the future, you've got to have

536
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Speaker 1: those people.

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Speaker 5: You guys have got to understand. There is outrage out

538
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Speaker 5: there among our customers, the fan That's true. They are

539
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Speaker 5: going ballistic over the weekend. The club coaches, most of them,

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Speaker 5: you know, off the record, we'll tell you that it's

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Speaker 5: out of control.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I know the answer to the next one.

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Speaker 1: Was the jwh ben over the top or warranted? After

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Speaker 1: that conversation we've just had about high shots, I think

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Speaker 1: I know what you guys are going to say.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The referee missed this. Everyone missed this. When we come

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Speaker 1: back a few minutes later, and he got ten minutes

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Speaker 1: in the bin. He's up for three to four weeks. Jared,

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Speaker 1: he'd only just returned from a four week suspension.

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Speaker 3: From that hit on Moler. I think it was from

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Speaker 3: the Dragon's Game called the Game on Triple M and

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Speaker 3: I missed it and so did Dan Ganame. We just

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Speaker 3: thought it was a great hit to come back about

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Speaker 3: a minute later. I have no doubt that's a that's

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Speaker 3: a sin Binni likes. But I thought be one of

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Speaker 3: two weeks. Just watch and I'm thinking one to two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Barrells gets cut in half. He comes down into it,

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Speaker 3: but then you look at Jared and he does his

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Speaker 3: wrap sheets pretty long.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was happy with the same beIN, but I

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Speaker 5: would have been happy with a Grade one, which would

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Speaker 5: have been a three thousand dollars fine two.

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Speaker 4: I can understand because of his record, and.

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Speaker 3: He's just because it's Jared. Now maybe I'd like to.

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Speaker 4: Think that's not the case. But it teach you to

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Speaker 4: come to the.

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Speaker 2: Options theft and when they've got to themorrow, yeah, well win.

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Speaker 2: What's the point. Well then he's out to the.

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Speaker 6: Prelim, so you know if you lose it, so maybe

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Speaker 6: it's worth the gam before them.

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Speaker 5: You look at someone stop and think, Jared's got to

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Speaker 5: change his game. And I know he's at the back

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Speaker 5: end of his game and he isn't left. Yeah, when

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Speaker 5: he plays again in the finals, he needs to change.

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Speaker 4: Well, can I.

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Speaker 3: Tell you.

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Speaker 2: Edge now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And that's and you know why, And that's why

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Speaker 3: they're in that position right because he's a leader and

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Speaker 3: he's I tell it. He would have been a nightmare

582
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Speaker 3: to play against and he's going to miss some time.

583
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Speaker 3: But the way he plays. I watched him in his

584
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Speaker 3: three hundred and seventh game. He went front on with Malow.

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Speaker 3: That's the way you want him to play. He has

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Speaker 3: never changed these tactics. Whether you like it or not.

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Speaker 3: He still played three hundred games. He's very brutal.

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Speaker 5: I should be phraise it and say there was a

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Speaker 5: younger Ford at the rest of as him to tackle.

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Speaker 3: You would change it. Jared absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Around is Wednesday night the Kidazoo headlines a stack card

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Speaker 1: and so that ice CE and the only place to

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Speaker 1: watch

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Speaker 2: It is on Main Event