WEBVTT - Sharri | 15 October

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<v Speaker 1>Why on Sky News.

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<v Speaker 2>Bits Sharry, Thanks Andrew good evening, Welcome to the show Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister under fire from his own MPs over

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<v Speaker 2>his decision to buy a multimillion dollar waterfront home. This

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<v Speaker 2>as his own attacks on Malcolm Turnbule's wealth come back

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<v Speaker 2>to bite him.

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<v Speaker 3>Those exclusive details in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Also tonight, is rady Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu tells the

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<v Speaker 2>UN to get out of the way as he targets

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<v Speaker 2>Hesbela terrorists high profile is Raeti figures. Elon Levy and

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Lerner will both join me for full coverage throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus, China has.

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<v Speaker 2>Deployed one hundred and twenty five military aircraft and navy

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<v Speaker 2>vessels around Taiwan in an attempt to intimidate the sovereign nation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll speak about this shocking active aggression with Ronwan Bishop

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<v Speaker 2>and Kleber Bond shortly.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Media news from Kamandala Harris's upcoming Fox News interview to

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<v Speaker 2>Channel nine sacking their spin.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor with Sophie Ellsworth.

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<v Speaker 2>But first tonight, Labor and PS have hit out at

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<v Speaker 2>their Prime minister for poor judgment in buying a waterfront mansion.

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<v Speaker 2>During the cost of living crisis, and Anthony Albanese's own

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<v Speaker 2>words attacking Malcolm Turbule's wealth came back to bite him today,

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<v Speaker 2>showing the extent of his hypocrisy. Well, I can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that Labor and PS are shocked and incredulous at

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<v Speaker 2>Albanese's decision to buy a four point three million dollar

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<v Speaker 2>cliff top holiday home during this economic crisis. One Labor

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<v Speaker 2>and P told me today, this one will cut through.

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<v Speaker 2>Do people think he gets the cost of living crisis

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<v Speaker 2>when he's buying a holiday house like this? And A

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<v Speaker 2>Labor insiders said to me, Labor members must be wondering

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<v Speaker 2>if their captain has his head in the game and

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<v Speaker 2>his eye on the ball. Former Labor State Secretary Cameron

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<v Speaker 2>Milner said this is either total incompetence or sublime arrogance

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to Albo's political touch.

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<v Speaker 3>The danger for Labor is this.

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<v Speaker 2>Retirement home might be the perfect combination of both and

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<v Speaker 2>a labor and He also told the City Morning Herald,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of a greater act of self sabotage

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<v Speaker 2>in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I am gobsmacked.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's widespread concern inside Labor about the MPs who

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<v Speaker 2>are up against the Greens in marginal seats where housing

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<v Speaker 2>affordability is the single biggest.

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<v Speaker 3>Issue, and this is a gift to the Greens.

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<v Speaker 2>It's spectacularly poor political judgment from Albin Easy. Now Here

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<v Speaker 2>was Albin Easy back in two thousand and eight saying

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<v Speaker 2>that Turnbull, who was then just newly installed as the

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<v Speaker 2>Liberal leader, was out of touch because of his wealth.

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<v Speaker 4>Born friend of the battler over here, the leader of

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<v Speaker 4>the orphisician from Struggle Street in Point Piper.

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<v Speaker 2>Struggle Street in Point Piper, Well, what does Albo have

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<v Speaker 2>to say now about Struggle Street on a waterfront mansion.

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<v Speaker 2>Then a decade later, in twenty eighteen, the class war

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed labor MP was still going for the jugular based

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<v Speaker 2>on where Turnbull lived.

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<v Speaker 4>Malcolm Turnbull might be okay looking after the people of

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<v Speaker 4>Point Piper, He's not good looking after the people of

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<v Speaker 4>Nurangbar and the people of Kabulcha and the people of

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<v Speaker 4>more Field and the purple of this community.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what you call hipocrisy.

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<v Speaker 2>And now, in the middle of a financial crisis, most

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<v Speaker 2>Australians wouldn't be able to afford a four million dollar

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<v Speaker 2>house at all, let alone a sport a spare four

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<v Speaker 2>point three million dollars to splash on a holiday home.

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<v Speaker 2>The Prime Minister is meant to lead the country during

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<v Speaker 2>an economic crisis, but his lost touch with what Australians

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<v Speaker 2>are actually going through. In fact, he's rubbing the cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living.

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<v Speaker 3>Crisis in their face. Now here are the facts.

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<v Speaker 2>The proportion of homeowners falling behind on their mortgage repayments

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<v Speaker 2>hit an eight year high in June. The RBA says

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<v Speaker 2>families missing mortgage repayments has nearly doubled in some hard

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<v Speaker 2>hit suburbs in Sydney. The number of people sleeping on

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<v Speaker 2>the streets has almost doubled since twenty twenty one during

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<v Speaker 2>this cost of living crisis, and food bag data out

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<v Speaker 2>today reveals that more than half of households affected by

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<v Speaker 2>food and security are skipping meals or even going an

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<v Speaker 2>entire day without food.

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<v Speaker 3>So at the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Time that families are skipping meals and children are going

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<v Speaker 2>going to school hungry, Albo from the block is buying

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<v Speaker 2>a waterfront mansion. He is insensitively showing off just how

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<v Speaker 2>well he's doing all from taxpayer money while the country suffers.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Reminds me of Marie Antoinette's infamous saying let them eat cake.

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<v Speaker 2>And it makes me wonder whether Albanesi actually cares that

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<v Speaker 2>much about being elected Prime Minister again, whether he truly

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<v Speaker 2>is desperate to win the election, because I genuinely don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand how a politician who wants to win again can

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<v Speaker 2>buy a multimillion dollar home when cost of living and

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<v Speaker 2>housing affordability are the two biggest issues facing Australians. And

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<v Speaker 2>so astonishing is it that Liberal figure Michael Kroger today

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<v Speaker 2>said it did look like Albanzi might be ready to retire.

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<v Speaker 6>It almost looks like a retirement house. It's sort of

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<v Speaker 6>gives the part from the cost of living, CHRISTI is

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<v Speaker 6>the housing crisis, etc. It always gives people the impression

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<v Speaker 6>that he's setting himself up for retirement, that he's sort

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<v Speaker 6>of on the way out, that if he loses the election,

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<v Speaker 6>well he's got somewhere to go. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 6>subliminal message that comes out of something like this, which

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<v Speaker 6>is he's buying a property near the beach. It just

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<v Speaker 6>gives the impression that he's headed for the door.

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<v Speaker 2>And this doesn't just cement the perception that alban Easy

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<v Speaker 2>is out of touch. It shows that he truly is

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<v Speaker 2>because unlike most Australians who are paying more tax than

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<v Speaker 2>ever thanks to bracket creep, and we know that Australians

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<v Speaker 2>already have among the highest personal income tax rates in

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, unlike most.

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<v Speaker 2>Australians, alban Easy had a pay rise this year. He

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<v Speaker 2>now earns six hundred thousand dollars. All of his flights

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<v Speaker 2>are paid for, all of his accommodation covered, and on

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<v Speaker 2>top of this has been receiving rental income.

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<v Speaker 3>Every expense of his is taken care of.

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<v Speaker 2>He clearly has an entitlement mentality because Albanze's entire life

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<v Speaker 2>has been spent working for politics or the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 2>According to his own official bio, he's only had a

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<v Speaker 2>job outside of politics for one year. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>bank officer from ninety eighty to nineteen eighty one. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>voters don't hold wealth against politicians when they know that

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<v Speaker 2>they've worked hard for it. Our country is built on aspiration,

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<v Speaker 2>and rightly so. But Albanese's personal philosophy has been defined

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<v Speaker 2>by the class warfare and the politics of envy. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the genesis of his changes to Stage three tax cuts

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<v Speaker 2>and it's behind his hatred of negative gearing, and voters

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<v Speaker 2>will hold this house purchase against Albanizi because he's been on.

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<v Speaker 3>The public purse his entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>He loves jet setting around the globe in Toto one

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<v Speaker 2>and now without any expenses to worry about, he's been

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<v Speaker 2>able to buy a waterfront holiday house. Now. The Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister defended his purchase today by once again speaking about

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<v Speaker 2>his childhood in Housing Commission.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, I am much better off as a Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 4>I earn a good income. I understand now. I understand

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<v Speaker 4>now I've been fortunate, but I also know what it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Like to struggle.

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<v Speaker 4>My mum lived in the one public housing that she

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<v Speaker 4>was born in for all of her sixty five years,

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<v Speaker 4>and I know what it's like, which is why I

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<v Speaker 4>want to help all Australians into a home.

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<v Speaker 2>Mate, I think you're going to have to give the

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<v Speaker 2>Housing Commission story a rest now that you're a property mogul.

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<v Speaker 2>Well Peter Dighton today was asked about this, and he

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<v Speaker 2>said that many Australians couldn't afford to pay their mortgages

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<v Speaker 2>because of the government's economic management.

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<v Speaker 8>Prime Minister can answer questions in relation to it otherwise,

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<v Speaker 8>but the homeowners at Australia that I'm worried about it

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<v Speaker 8>at the moment of people who can't afford their mortgages.

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<v Speaker 8>People have had twelve interest rate increases under this government,

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<v Speaker 8>and interest rates should come back as they're doing in

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<v Speaker 8>the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada and New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 8>But because of mister Albanesi's bad economic management, we're seeing

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<v Speaker 8>inflation remain higher here and therefore the interest rates remain

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<v Speaker 8>higher as well.

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<v Speaker 2>The Herald Sun political columnist James Campbell said that this

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<v Speaker 2>was Albanese's Hawaii moment, and like me, Campbell also wondered

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<v Speaker 2>whether Albanzi had given up, and he pointed out that

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<v Speaker 2>Australians have suffered the biggest fall in their standard of

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<v Speaker 2>living out of any country in the OECD, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>but is splashing out millions on a bolt hole in

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<v Speaker 2>a region of Australia where people are living in caravan

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<v Speaker 2>parks because there's nowhere to rent, short of using taxpayer

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<v Speaker 2>money to fly around the country to attend free Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>Swift and Katie Perry gigs. It's hard to think of

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<v Speaker 2>a more obvious way of showing he's out of touch

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<v Speaker 2>with the experiences of ordinary people. And it's true Albanezi

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<v Speaker 2>has lost touch with the reality of how Australians are struggling.

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<v Speaker 2>He's now used to having his bum in the butter.

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<v Speaker 2>He's living a grand old life while making decisions that

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<v Speaker 2>only prolong inflation and worsen the cost of living crisis. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to come back to that topic in a

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<v Speaker 2>moment with Kayleb Bond and Bronwyn Bishop, but first let's

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<v Speaker 2>turn to Israel. Now, the United Nations have had a

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility and an obligation to enforce their own Security Council

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<v Speaker 2>Resolution seventeen oh one since the end of the Second

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<v Speaker 2>Lebanon War in two thousand and six. That UN resolution

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<v Speaker 2>decreed that Hesbela needed to stay north of the Latani

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<v Speaker 2>River and not militarize southern Lebanon near the border with Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>For the past eighteen years, the United Nations has comprehensively.

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<v Speaker 3>Failed to keep the peace.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead, literally right under their watch, Hesbela amassed stockpiles of

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<v Speaker 2>weapons and built tunnels. With UNIFOR officials not far away.

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<v Speaker 2>Hesbla used this area as a base to relentlessly attack Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>Since October the eighth striking while the nation was at

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<v Speaker 2>its most vulnerable. In the wake of the October seven massacre,

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<v Speaker 2>more than eight thousand rockets have been fired, twelve children

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<v Speaker 2>playing soccer murdered, and eighty thousand Israelis have been forced

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<v Speaker 2>to flee their homes. During all this time, Western leaders

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<v Speaker 2>were silent.

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<v Speaker 3>There were no demands of Hesbalah.

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<v Speaker 2>For a ceasefire or to stop their attacks on Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>With international Deploymacy a dead duck, Israel had no choice

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<v Speaker 2>but to step in, fight the terrorists and defend their

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<v Speaker 2>own citizens. Western leaders became deeply upset that Israel would

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<v Speaker 2>dare defend itself and almost immediately demanded a ceasefire. Well

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<v Speaker 2>now overnight Britain, Italy, France and Germany released the joint

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<v Speaker 2>statement wrongly accusing Israel of deliberately attacking uniform sites after

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<v Speaker 2>eight employees were injured. In their statement, they said, we

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<v Speaker 2>call on Israel and on all parties to uphold their

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<v Speaker 2>obligations to ensure the safety and security of UNIFIL personnel

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<v Speaker 2>at all times and to allow UNIFIL to continue carrying

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<v Speaker 2>out its mandate. We reaffer the essential stabilizing role played

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<v Speaker 2>by UNIFIL in southern Lebanon. They said, we underscore the

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<v Speaker 2>importance of the United Nations in resolving armed conflict and

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<v Speaker 2>mitigating the humanitarian impact, and so on.

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<v Speaker 3>What a joke, What a laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>UNIFIL has done less than nothing to stop the build

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<v Speaker 2>up of terror on the border of Israel. UNIPHIL has

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<v Speaker 2>done nothing to stop the terror attacks on Israelis, including

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<v Speaker 2>little children, one devastated.

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<v Speaker 3>Mother who I had on this program.

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<v Speaker 2>What an absurd statement, A stabilizing role, what rubbish. The

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli Prime Minister pushed back today, telling un workers to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the way.

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<v Speaker 9>The charge that Israel deliberately attacked UNIFIL personnel is completely false.

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<v Speaker 1>It's exactly the opposite.

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<v Speaker 9>Israel repeatedly as UNIFIL to get out of harmswell, it

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<v Speaker 9>repeatedly asked them to temporarily leave the combat zone, which

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<v Speaker 9>is right next to Israel's border with Lebanon. In fact,

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<v Speaker 9>on the day that Israel began its ground operation next

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<v Speaker 9>to our border with Lebanon, we ask them specifically, please

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<v Speaker 9>leave this area so you're not harmed.

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<v Speaker 2>The evidence we've seen this week of Hesbela operating within

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<v Speaker 2>a whisker's breath of UNIFIL is a wake up call.

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<v Speaker 3>It's further evidence that the.

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<v Speaker 2>United Nations simply enables terrorism instead of protecting nations against

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<v Speaker 2>its barbarism. The reality is the ineffective UNIFIL has basically

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<v Speaker 2>become human shields for Hesbelah.

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<v Speaker 3>This is truly a new low for.

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<v Speaker 2>The United Nations, watching the buildup of terrorism in breach

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<v Speaker 2>of their own Security Council resolution and saying nothing, just

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<v Speaker 2>allowing Israelis.

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<v Speaker 3>To be killed, or to discuss this further.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm joined now by head of the is Raeti Citizens

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<v Speaker 2>spokes Person's Office, Elon Levy. Elon, welcome to the show now.

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<v Speaker 2>As I said, we've just seen evidence this week that

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<v Speaker 2>uniform posts were nearby Hesbela weapons and tunnels. What's your

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<v Speaker 2>comment on how ineffective the UN Security Council has been

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<v Speaker 2>in stopping the build up of terror in southern Lebanon.

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<v Speaker 10>It's extremely frustrating that Israel is now having to pick

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<v Speaker 10>up the pieces of the international community's failure. UNIFIL had

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<v Speaker 10>one job that was to help the Lebanese army disarm

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<v Speaker 10>Hezbolla and put it away from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli border, and it failed. It failed miserably.

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<v Speaker 10>Has Bolla built its military positions right next to unifilled soldiers.

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<v Speaker 10>At some point those peacekeepers had to be sitting at

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<v Speaker 10>their posts watching Hespolla digging tunnels right outside their posts.

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<v Speaker 10>We had a mass casualty incident just the other night,

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<v Speaker 10>four soldiers killed from a drone fired from inside an

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<v Speaker 10>area that UNIFIL was meant to have disarmed. Israel spent

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<v Speaker 10>eighteen years telling UNIFIL please enforce your and push Hesbola

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<v Speaker 10>away from the border.

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<v Speaker 1>It spent a year.

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<v Speaker 10>Warning Hezbola back off or we will have to push

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<v Speaker 10>you away. But after relentless rocket attacks, Israel is now

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<v Speaker 10>having to step in to defend its people where the

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<v Speaker 10>UN has clearly failed.

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<v Speaker 2>Elon, what's your view on that statement that I just

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned from the UK, France, Italy and Germany overnight where

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<v Speaker 2>they accused Israel of targeting UNIFIL officials.

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<v Speaker 10>I think those countries need to take responsibility for the

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<v Speaker 10>failure of the international security architecture that was meant to

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<v Speaker 10>keep us safe. UNIFIL is there because after the two

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<v Speaker 10>thousand and six war with Hezbola, we agreed on a

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<v Speaker 10>diplomatic resolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of Israel.

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<v Speaker 10>Acting against Hesbola, the international community would help Lebanon to

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<v Speaker 10>disarm Hesbola, and they didn't. Israelis are now dead because

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<v Speaker 10>of the failure members of the UN Security Council to

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<v Speaker 10>make sure that UNIPHIL enforced its mandate.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that.

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<v Speaker 10>International diplomats criticizing Israel for its actions in Lebanon should

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<v Speaker 10>show a little bit of humility and understand that Israel

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<v Speaker 10>is now having to act and send its own soldiers.

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<v Speaker 1>In because they fail to do their job.

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<v Speaker 10>Obviously, Israel isn't targeting UNIFIL forces. Israel is coordinating with

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<v Speaker 10>UNIFIL forces, but UNIFIL is right next to Hezbola positions.

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<v Speaker 1>Hesbola built its positions.

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<v Speaker 10>Deliberately next to UNIFIL posts, and so Israel now finds

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<v Speaker 10>itself telling UNIFIL peacekeepers please move.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of the way. We don't want you to be heard.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not our.

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<v Speaker 10>Fault that has Bola built its military positions under your noses.

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<v Speaker 1>It's your fault. Need to fess up and take responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Ellen, I think, and I was just in Israel

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<v Speaker 2>last week. I think people around the world don't quite

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<v Speaker 2>realize how Israelis are under attack every single day from

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<v Speaker 2>rocket fire, which could be coming from seven directions. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you tell me a bit about what's the reality of

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<v Speaker 2>life in Israel with sirens constantly going off.

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<v Speaker 10>Since the October seventh massacre, we've been under attack on

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<v Speaker 10>seven fronts. Gaza Hezbolla joined in the next day, the

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<v Speaker 10>Houthi pirates in Yemen, Iranian militias in Syria, Iranian militias

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<v Speaker 10>in Iraq, Alastinian terrorists in the West Bank, and Iran itself.

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<v Speaker 10>When we have a rocket siren we had one in

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<v Speaker 10>Tel Aviv just yesterday, we don't know what direction it's

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<v Speaker 10>coming from. It could be coming from the south, to

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<v Speaker 10>the north, the east, or the west. Iran has deliberately

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<v Speaker 10>surrounded Israel with a ring of fire of proxy armies,

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<v Speaker 10>and their goal is to destroy Israel, and they are

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<v Speaker 10>waging a war of attrition against us, to make life

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<v Speaker 10>in this country impossible. Because every once in a while,

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<v Speaker 10>there's a rocket siren and you don't know what direction

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<v Speaker 10>it is coming from. And that's why it's so important

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<v Speaker 10>that our allies stand together with us and say a

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<v Speaker 10>ceasefire is not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>The goal should be peace.

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<v Speaker 10>It's not enough that this war should end with Iran's

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<v Speaker 10>terrorist armies on Israel's borders able to fire rockets whenever

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<v Speaker 10>they want. This war has to end when Iran's proxy

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<v Speaker 10>armies can.

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<v Speaker 1>No longer shoot rockets.

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<v Speaker 10>At Israel's people and we can move towards real peace

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<v Speaker 10>with our neighbors in Lebanon instead of allowing the Iranian

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<v Speaker 10>regime and its terrorist armies to ruin everything for everyone

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<v Speaker 10>all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Elon, one thing that really struck me when I

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<v Speaker 2>was in Israel was the unity among Israelis. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>irrespective of political leanings, and everyone has an opinion on

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<v Speaker 2>whether they support the government or they don't, but the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of Israeli support the war on terror. And Elon

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<v Speaker 2>you personally, you used to be a spokesperson for the government.

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<v Speaker 2>That didn't work out, but now you've launched a citizens

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<v Speaker 2>Spokesperson's office where you speak on behalf of the citizens

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<v Speaker 2>of Israel, and your message is very similar to the

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<v Speaker 2>governments because Israel, like I said, is unified in wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to defeat the terrorism. You know, can you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this because it is so unique when especially and you've

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<v Speaker 2>just been to Australia as well.

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<v Speaker 3>In Australia, we're more divided than ever.

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<v Speaker 10>Israelis are divided on many issues, but were united in

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<v Speaker 10>an understanding that this war is truly existential. We are

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<v Speaker 10>surrounded by enemies with long range precision missiles that want

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<v Speaker 10>to kill all of us and destroy our country, and

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<v Speaker 10>that means everyone in Israel understands what is at stake

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<v Speaker 10>in this war. And when I finished my position as

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<v Speaker 10>a government spokesman, I set up my own organization of

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<v Speaker 10>ordinary citizens who can stand up and speak up for

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<v Speaker 10>our country because we realize that only three things matter

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<v Speaker 10>right now. Hammas must go down, the hostages must go home,

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<v Speaker 10>and Hesbola and Iran's other proxy armies must go away.

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<v Speaker 10>This war cannot end with the hamas Terra regime still

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<v Speaker 10>in power in Gaza plotting another October seventh. It cannot

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<v Speaker 10>end with hostages still being starved and tortured and raped

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<v Speaker 10>and executed in Gaza. And it cannot end with Hezbola

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<v Speaker 10>sitting right on Israel's northern border, or we can't get

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<v Speaker 10>tens of thousands of people back to their homes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a perception.

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<v Speaker 10>Around the world that this is a war that Israel

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<v Speaker 10>somehow wants or is dragging out.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing could be further from the truth. We don't want

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<v Speaker 1>this war.

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<v Speaker 10>We're paying a terrible price for this war, but we

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<v Speaker 10>understand why we need to win this war that was

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<v Speaker 10>declared against us, because we want to live within safe.

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<v Speaker 1>And secure borders where our people can go.

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<v Speaker 10>To sleep safely without fear of a drone coming from

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<v Speaker 10>two thousand miles away and murdering them.

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<v Speaker 1>In their sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, said Elin Leavy.

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<v Speaker 2>Really appreciate your time right now live from Israel, and

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<v Speaker 2>late this hour I'm going to be joined by Peter

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<v Speaker 2>Lerna that with the latest on Iran and when we

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<v Speaker 2>can expect those strikes from Israel. But now let's bring

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<v Speaker 2>in form a Speaker of the House, bron Win Bishop

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<v Speaker 2>and Sky News host Caleb Bond. Welcome to you both.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to have you here. We're going to get to

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<v Speaker 2>your view on Albanzi's waterfront match and purchase in just

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<v Speaker 2>a moment, but I do want to start with what

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<v Speaker 2>is actually very big news that China has surrounded Taiwan

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<v Speaker 2>with one hundred and twenty five military aircraft and navy vessels.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a clear show of intimidation. It's been condemned

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<v Speaker 2>by the US, Europe and also Australia. Bronwin This is

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<v Speaker 2>a worrying sign that China could be moving forward with

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<v Speaker 2>its reunification or invasion designs on Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 11>Shari. Whenever there's a void of power internationally, something will

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<v Speaker 11>fill it, and z is filling it right now. You're

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<v Speaker 11>seeing that America is in the throes of its election

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:45.640
<v Speaker 11>with the sheer possibility of Kamala Harris being elected. Makes

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<v Speaker 11>America so weak it doesn't matter. In the United Kingdom,

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<v Speaker 11>you've got Stammer, who is such a weak character. I

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<v Speaker 11>mean all the stories coming out about him, and bear

0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:03.480
<v Speaker 11>in mind he too was a corbyn Man, and Corburn

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<v Speaker 11>was anti Semitic and a Labor Party was full of it.

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<v Speaker 11>And then you look at Makran and then you look

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:13.160
<v Speaker 11>at Germany, which is also starting to see a change

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:17.159
<v Speaker 11>in the way people are voting. There's a weakness in

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:22.719
<v Speaker 11>the West and China its economy is not performing well.

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<v Speaker 11>And whenever there's a downgrade and the people start to

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<v Speaker 11>get a bit rest is then it's dictators always say

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<v Speaker 11>we'll go in and we'll fight for something to unify

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<v Speaker 11>the people behind them.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's a.

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<v Speaker 11>Very dangerous time indeed right now because of that vacuum

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 11>of power being filled by Z. So we've just got

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<v Speaker 11>a hope to goodness that Trump wins in America and

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<v Speaker 11>starts to restore some strength because there is because of

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<v Speaker 11>his unpredictability, Z will see that that is a threat

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<v Speaker 11>to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb, you know, we're seeing still the Russia Ukraine War,

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<v Speaker 2>We're seeing the Middle East on fire, and now China

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:10.399
<v Speaker 2>is exercising it's this intimidation. I mean, one hundred and

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty five aircraft circling Taiwan. That is massive, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's been utterly underplayed in the Australian media well.

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<v Speaker 12>And that is correct because it's not just a warning

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 12>to Taiwan that they actually do want to finish the

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 12>reunification that they've always talked about. It's a warning to

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.239
<v Speaker 12>the West. I mean, what they're saying is if and

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<v Speaker 12>when we decide to go into Taiwan, don't you dare

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:36.120
<v Speaker 12>come anywhere near the place, otherwise we will reach hell

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.200
<v Speaker 12>upon you. And it's a warning to the US and Australia,

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<v Speaker 12>which of course has to deal with the fact that

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:44.639
<v Speaker 12>China is expanding within the Pacific and they are going

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<v Speaker 12>around giving lots of money to little Pacific islands and

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 12>nations that we simply can't keep up with through their

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 12>debt diplomacy, and it's the same thing they're saying. Look,

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<v Speaker 12>if you want to try and fight us, you have

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<v Speaker 12>no hope in hell. That is the scariest part of

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<v Speaker 12>all of this. They showing the mc that they have.

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<v Speaker 12>And look, you can talk about how bad a country

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<v Speaker 12>China is as a dictatorship, and that is correct, but

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 12>of course under dictatorship you can have as many soldiers

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 12>as you want, and that is the one thing that

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<v Speaker 12>China has in its favor and it will use them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's different arguments from different people and just how

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 2>strong they're military is, but look, I don't want to

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 2>find out, that's for sure. Now let's return to Albanese's

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 2>four point three million dollar purchase of a waterfront home

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<v Speaker 2>in the new Southel Central coast ron when this is

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<v Speaker 2>a bad look in the cost of living crisis.

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<v Speaker 11>Well it's not only a bad look, but personally, I

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:42.919
<v Speaker 11>think Albanizi has mentally left the job. I think he

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<v Speaker 11>is under attacked from two or under fear from two areas.

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.719
<v Speaker 11>He's got three people in his own party who are

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<v Speaker 11>starting to count numbers against him to topple him, and

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:57.440
<v Speaker 11>you've got the pole starting to slip away. Having boasted

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 11>he's never lost a news poll. Having done now he's saying, well,

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 11>look from a boy from my house and commission home,

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<v Speaker 11>I'll end up in a four point three million dollar house.

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<v Speaker 11>I've done pretty well, so I think I'm mentally leaving

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<v Speaker 11>this job. And there's no leadership in any of the

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 11>areas where we need it, none, absolutely none. So we

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 11>hear this trotted out story about I grew up in

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 11>the Housing Commission house again today because that is somehow

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 11>identifies him as a person who's risen. But quite frankly,

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 11>he rose above his station. I've told you before I

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 11>sat in that chamber with him for more than twenty years,

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.440
<v Speaker 11>and nobody ever said he was leadership material.

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<v Speaker 3>He probably didn't even think it himself.

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<v Speaker 2>He was, like I said last night, he was surprised

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<v Speaker 2>when he went shot and lost the prime ministership. He

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 2>was probably happy to be an infrastructure minister.

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 11>A consequential infrastructure minister. He was a nobody minister. Nobody

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 11>wanted to attack him with question time or showing that

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 11>because he didn't matter.

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 2>There are some politicians who are desperate for the top job.

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<v Speaker 2>And you do wonder with this house purchase, Caleb, whether

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 2>albanize is thinking, well, I've been PM, now I can

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<v Speaker 2>go and enjoy my retirement.

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<v Speaker 3>He's sixty one at this time.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, it would certainly seem to indicate that he's already

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<v Speaker 12>thinking about what he's going to do after the prime ministership.

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<v Speaker 12>And one would think that whether he loses the Prime

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<v Speaker 12>ministership at an election in the form of he loses government,

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<v Speaker 12>or he gets rolled after an election because he delivers

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<v Speaker 12>a slim minority government, whatever it might be, I think

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<v Speaker 12>he's going to be out of there like a shot.

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<v Speaker 5>After that.

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<v Speaker 12>There'll be a by election in Graindler and he'll bugger

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<v Speaker 12>off to the Central Coast, and good luck to him.

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<v Speaker 12>The thing that has troubled me a little bit about

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<v Speaker 12>the commentary around this today, though, is that it does

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<v Speaker 12>smack of the politics of envy and the class warfare

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 12>that is so common in this country. Do I wish

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<v Speaker 12>that Anthony Albanizi had risen to a place where he

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<v Speaker 12>could afford a four point three million dollar home on

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<v Speaker 12>the central Coast? Probably not, But am I jealous of

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<v Speaker 12>him for having done so?

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<v Speaker 3>No, think there's jealousy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people, like I said at the start of

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<v Speaker 2>the show, we are a country of aspiration and people

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 2>respect those who are self made, who work hard, who

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<v Speaker 2>make their way there. But Bronwin Albanezy has been on

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<v Speaker 2>the public person his whole life.

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<v Speaker 11>Correct, But what his colleagues will be thinking is what

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<v Speaker 11>a selfish man to put our marginal seats at risk

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<v Speaker 11>by doing this purchase. At this point in time, nobody's

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 11>saying he can't buy and sell properties. He wishes you can,

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<v Speaker 11>But it's a sheer disregard for colleagues who are in

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<v Speaker 11>marginal seats, particularly Robertson's a marginal seat where he's buying

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 11>because that satisfies his own ego. I seriously mean what

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<v Speaker 11>I say. He feels he's made it, and he did

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<v Speaker 11>by getting to the Prime Minister. He had no idea

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<v Speaker 11>what he was going to do once he got there,

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<v Speaker 11>which was quite apparent when he said the voice is

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<v Speaker 11>going to be the way.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still got no idea and that's part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>He never prepared for the job.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct.

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<v Speaker 11>And you know, I think it's amusing that people are

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<v Speaker 11>saying the premiers won't turn up to see the Prince

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<v Speaker 11>to see the King and Queen. Well, quite frankly, the

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 11>invitation comes from the Prime Minister. So there he's a

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 11>poisonous so I don't want to be accept his invitation.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see all right from and Bishop Calebon and Caleb

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<v Speaker 2>will see you tonight at ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Now after the break.

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<v Speaker 2>A legend of journalism, George Nigas passes away at eighty two.

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<v Speaker 2>We look back on his career, plus why Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>has agreed to an interview on Fox News, Sophie Ellsworth

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<v Speaker 2>would join me next, and Peter Lerner still coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Up on the show. Sus stay tuned, Welcome back, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Eminent Australian journalist George Nigas has passed away at the

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<v Speaker 2>age of eighty two. He was the face of many

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<v Speaker 2>hard hitting news programs. The founding host of sixty Minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>presented the first episode of Foreign Correspondent. Have a look

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 2>at this memorable moment from an interview with Bob Hawk.

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<v Speaker 4>I describe you as an ex boozer and womanizer X.

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>The X is definitely correct for both. I heard your

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>question and that's your answer. You take a lot of

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 1>convincing Danta.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we'd get away with a question

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<v Speaker 2>like that to a politician these days. All right, Media

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<v Speaker 2>writer for The Australian, Sophie Elsworth joins me. Now, Sophie,

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<v Speaker 2>what were some of the highlights of George's career?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, Sherry, the eighty two year old has a career

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 13>that spanned many decades. He started as a high school

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 13>teacher and he worked across many commercial TV outlets in Australia.

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 13>Obviously he was also ABC Foreign correspondent sixty minutes. I mean,

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 13>George Nigas's career is so extensive. He's one of the

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 13>most prominent journalists in this country and today there was

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 13>certainly an outpouring of grief when they learned of his passing.

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<v Speaker 13>As we know, Sharry, he was batting battling Alzheimer's diseases

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 13>disease in recent years.

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<v Speaker 5>But he had some of those great moments.

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<v Speaker 13>That clipped there with Bob Hawk, an interview with Margaret

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 13>Thatcher that went viral. He was a very hard hitting

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 13>journalist and the Australian public very much warm to him,

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<v Speaker 13>and this is a great loss for the media industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, all right, Sophie, let's have a look at us

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<v Speaker 2>politics now because in a surprise move, Kamala Harris has

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 2>agreed to an interview with Fox News with Bret Bayer.

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 2>This is the first time since Hillary Clinton in twenty

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 2>sixteen that a presidential candidate from the Democrat Party will

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 2>appear on Fox ahead of election day.

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Now, Donald Trump has slammed Fox over it.

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 2>He's saying that the network's totally lost its way and

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<v Speaker 2>has grown weak and soft on Democrats in this before

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<v Speaker 2>the interview has even aired. But Sophie given Kamala Harris

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 2>has struggled to perform in friendly interviews over the past week,

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 2>this is going to be an unpredictable performance.

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 13>Absolutely, it will be Sharry and I think it is

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 13>a good thing that she's fronting up to Fox News.

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 5>She is not the best media.

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 13>Performer by any stretch, and Fox News has an enormous

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 13>reach three times that of CNN and MSNBCS.

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 5>So there'll be a lot of.

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<v Speaker 13>People tuning into this interview because she's opted for those

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 13>more friendly interviews. She was recently on the left wing

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 13>program The View, So I think there will be a

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 13>lot of people tuning in, And obviously she's going on

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 13>Fox to try and win over some of those voters

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 13>that she thinks she can change their minds from a

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 13>voting Republican to Democrat, and also for the undecided voters

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 13>who are not sure which way they will go on

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 13>polling day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Brett Bay is a good journalist. There's no

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 2>indication he'll do anything other than a tough interview. I

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 2>don't know why Donald Trump wouldn't be welcoming this because

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 2>we have, as you say, seen Kamala Harris struggle when

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't have a teleprompter.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I want to return.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I spoke about this last night and the

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 2>show to the ongoing woes at nine Entertainment. The news

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 2>yesterday that it's long term spin doctor Victoria Buckan has

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 2>been made redundant, in other words, sacked. Sophie, we've both

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 2>been following this story. Nine employees have welcomed this move.

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 2>They say it's the start of the network restoring trust.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the reaction you've also been getting? And what

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<v Speaker 2>can we expect from the upcoming cultural Review?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, the timing of Victoria Bucan's redundancy is just a

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 13>few weeks before this Cultural Review is to be handed down, Shari,

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 13>So the timing is interesting However, I have been told

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 13>her to Hartscher has nothing to do with the findings

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 13>in the Cultural Review. But Channel nine are no doubt

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 13>in damage control. They've now seen the exit of Mike Sneeze, Me,

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 13>the CEO chair, Peter Costello, Victoria Bucken and.

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.359
<v Speaker 5>The news boss Darren Wick.

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 13>It's been a revolving door of people leaving the company.

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 5>The share prices in free fall.

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 13>The company's in a mess and they need a total

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 13>overhaul because there's a lot of people very nervous, Sharry,

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 13>as you would know about the findings of this cultural

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 13>review that are due to be handed down by the

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 13>Company Intersection by the end of this month.

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 2>And the staff are going to be expecting this report

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 2>to be made public and for there to be real change.

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, Sophie Elsware, thank you so much for your

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 2>time and insights, always excellent. Now still to come. Bill

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Clinton's gaff puts Kamala Harris in a world of pain.

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Let's have a look at what he said next. Plus

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 2>when will Is Rail retaliate against Iran. Peter Lerner will

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 2>be on the show. That's all coming up. Welcome Back

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:11.760
<v Speaker 2>with Peter Lerner is still coming up on the show

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 2>when can we expect Israel to retaliate against Iran. But

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 2>now let's bring in senior fellow at the Menzies Research

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Center Nick Cata and former Liberal minister Gary Hargrave. Welcome

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 2>to you both, Hi, Sarry. Let's start with this promise

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:29.399
<v Speaker 2>to crack down on credit card or debit card rather

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 2>search arges. So under this plan announced by Labor from

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six, we'd no longer have to pay a

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 2>fee when paying with our own money on debit cards,

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 2>although credit card fees would still apply, Nick Cata, given

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 2>cash is on the way out, it is really absurd

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 2>that we still have these fees for using cards.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, First, Showy, just let me be just me

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 7>congratulate you on the work you did last week. It

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.879
<v Speaker 7>was very important. It's what we pay the ABC to do.

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 7>Unfortunately we had to get it from you. Great reporting. Look,

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 7>you're right, I mean what makes me particularly frustrated about

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 7>this is that you know so many places will not

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 7>allow you to take to to give cash anymore. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>I would much prefer to give cash most of the time,

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 7>and usually try, but you run out, you run out

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 7>of patience with some of the places that refuse to

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 7>take it and insist on taking your credit card or

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 7>your debit card if you're more careful with your money.

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 7>And I do think that the I agree with the

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 7>Peter Dutton that this is just a plan for a

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 7>plan right now, but I think it's something both parties

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 7>should look at because it seems to be only fair

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 7>that you're simply withdrawing money out of your own account

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 7>in the case for debit card, and it seems completely

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 7>wrong that you should be charged a surcharge for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean the plan for a plan.

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<v Speaker 2>So the obn easy government is committing two point one

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 2>million dollars to the a Triple ce to investigate this further.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Gary, why not just scrap the fees?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? What do you need to investigate?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 14>Look, I understand the argument, but I've got to tell

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 14>you Sharry, and I echo Nick's congratulations on terific work

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.760
<v Speaker 14>last week. Isn't it great to see an Australian bringing

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 14>that perspective? But can I just say the thing about

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 14>the fee, If it's disclosed, at least you know you're

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 14>paying it and your cash might be on the way out.

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:25.840
<v Speaker 14>But there are those who aren't happy about that. And

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 14>it's still ultimately legal tender and for places to refuse

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 14>cash seems counterintuitive to me. So if you get rid

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.439
<v Speaker 14>of the fee, and the fee is just buried into

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.399
<v Speaker 14>the cost, it's going to be the small business that's

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 14>going to have to jack up the prices.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to pay.

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<v Speaker 6>It no matter what.

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<v Speaker 14>So I actually think it's not unreasonable to have a

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 14>line item on your bill that says and transaction fee.

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 14>I get the anger. I paid one today. It's what

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 14>a bit over a percent for some places. Some places

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 14>it's even more. But I think that this is a

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 14>disclosure that is once taken away, is going to be

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 14>convenient to the banks and the credit card machine people,

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 14>the tyros and people like that, and it's going to

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.959
<v Speaker 14>disadvantage small businesses because people are just going to get angry.

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 14>The prices are going to go up without explanation. So

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 14>I think there's a little honesty in knowing that there

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 14>is a search arge.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they'd have to scrap the fee, just a thought.

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 2>They'd have to scrap the fee for the small businesses

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 2>as well, you'd think, but I want to move on

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 2>to look at once they'd have to they'd have to

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>let's have a look at the Kammanda Harris campaign wheeled

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 2>out former President Bill Clinton today. This was to help

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 2>garner support of voters, but then there was a bit

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 2>of a blunder. It was an event in Georgia, and

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>he suggested that Georgia nursing student Lake and Riley's death

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 2>might not have happened if the illegal immigrant had been

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 2>properly vetted. So this was seeming to blame the Biden administration.

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Have a quick look.

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 5>You had a case in Georgia not very long ago.

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Din they made an ad about it, but it what

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 3>the young woman who'd been killed by an emigrant.

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.720
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, well if they then properly vetted, that probably wouldn't

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 9>have happened.

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 5>But if they are properly vetted and.

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:12.439
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't happen, I mean, Nick Kta, this has got

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 2>her bit. Clinton has to know what he's doing. Is

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.360
<v Speaker 2>a very smart guy. Was this an attack on Kamala

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Harris's record?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I look, it shows two things. First up, one

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<v Speaker 7>is that the Democrats know that they are being hit

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<v Speaker 7>very badly by this issue. That American people are really

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<v Speaker 7>very very annoyed about these borders being open, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>a very dangerous situation. The second thing I think it

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<v Speaker 7>shows is just how shame faced and unembarrassed Democrats can be,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, now, trying to set themselves up apparently, and

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<v Speaker 7>Kamala's being the same as the Party of the Tough Borders.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean it's rather like Genghis Khan setting himself up

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<v Speaker 7>as a man of peace, isn't it. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 7>just nuts, but they'll try it. They'll try it because

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<v Speaker 7>they really really know this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Hurting No indeed, Gary Hargrover, I actually want to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you about Victorian Liberal leader John Persuito because he survived

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<v Speaker 2>a party room meeting without a leadership challenge. Here he

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<v Speaker 2>was afterwards trying to put it all behind him.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you happy that there was no film?

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<v Speaker 9>Well?

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<v Speaker 15>I don't know what all that was about, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 15>but everybody's focused on the job ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you raise your defamation trying I won't.

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<v Speaker 15>Go into the detail, but I had a recap of

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<v Speaker 15>the last month and I think it went very well.

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<v Speaker 5>Gary.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been so much backgrounding about a potential spill and

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<v Speaker 2>a better leader. I mean, surely Victorians need a stronger

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<v Speaker 2>leader in the Liberal opposition.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, And they've been sweating on one for a long time.

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<v Speaker 14>A lot of normal Liberal voters in Victoria, that rare

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<v Speaker 14>breed are sweating on somebody of some substance being the leader.

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<v Speaker 14>And that month long trial would have gone for about

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<v Speaker 14>four days if Persuito hadn't sort of extended the evidence

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<v Speaker 14>into great narratives about his own self importance from what

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<v Speaker 14>I could see of it. But anyway, it was a

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<v Speaker 14>soap opera that's been going on for ages. Look, I

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<v Speaker 14>think the guy's got to go. He's got to fall

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<v Speaker 14>on his sword, and hasn't going to be a very

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 14>long sword. Only a short one will get rid of him.

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<v Speaker 14>But he's got to go. And the Liberals have got

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<v Speaker 14>to refurbish themselves. Victoria needs desperately a change the government,

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<v Speaker 14>but they're not going to vote for something if they're

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<v Speaker 14>not certain about what they're going to get. And I

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<v Speaker 14>mean Queensland has got a similar problem where there's a

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<v Speaker 14>bit of a Victorian Liberals feel about the Liberal National

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<v Speaker 14>Party in a lot of minds as well. So this

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<v Speaker 14>is not a good time, not a good time at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Nick Kata, Gary Hargrave, thank you both

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<v Speaker 2>very much for your time. Now still to come the

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<v Speaker 2>US to send an anti missile system and troops to Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll speak with Peter Lerner from the IDF about this

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<v Speaker 2>and the threat of Around's nuclear program. That's after this

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<v Speaker 2>quick break, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>American media has reported that he's Raeli Prime Minister Netanya

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<v Speaker 2>who was only going to hit military targets rather than

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<v Speaker 2>oil or nuclear sites when he retaliates against Iran for

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<v Speaker 2>those two hundred ballistic missiles nearly two weeks ago. But

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<v Speaker 2>then a statement from Netanya Who's office today said we

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the opinions of the United States, but we

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<v Speaker 2>will make our final decisions based on our national interests.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've got to tell you that's the strength I

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<v Speaker 2>saw when I met with Netanyahu last week, that he's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to succumb to pressure from the international community

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<v Speaker 2>if it's not in the best interests of Israel's survival. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's cross live now to Israel, where IDF International spokesman

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<v Speaker 2>Lieutenant Colonel Peter Lerner joins me. Peter, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>your time. Does this mean that strikes on Iran's nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>sites are still a live option on the table?

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<v Speaker 1>Charry?

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<v Speaker 16>The idea has put on the table for the government

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<v Speaker 16>a vast spectrum of different options that the IDEAF can

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<v Speaker 16>employ and deploy to and I think that this is

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<v Speaker 16>not necessarily something we need to talk about openly, but

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<v Speaker 16>of course there is many different options. The contrary to

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<v Speaker 16>non state actors like Hesbalah or Hamas Iran, the Islamic

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<v Speaker 16>Republic is a nation state and they have assets and

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<v Speaker 16>interests that can all be hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Look if the nuclear sites aren't targeted now by Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>There has been speculation about whether the US would support

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<v Speaker 2>this when it's in the middle of an election campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>Iran's nuclear capabilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Though at some point they do need to be dismantled

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<v Speaker 2>before nuclear weapons are developed, because that would pose a

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<v Speaker 2>threat to the entire world, I mean including US here

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia.

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<v Speaker 16>Absolutely. Iran is the disruptor and destabilizer of the region

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<v Speaker 16>and well beyond the region, and I think it is

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<v Speaker 16>in everybody's interest they do not have a nuclear capability,

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<v Speaker 16>and that is why, of course there is a huge concern,

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<v Speaker 16>and I think we've seen several governments over the last

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<v Speaker 16>few weeks institute new sanctions on Islamic Republic leadership of

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 16>their military apparatus and beyond. And I think that this

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.799
<v Speaker 16>is a huge concern for the world and what we've

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 16>seen on our borders and when you saw and you

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<v Speaker 16>got up close, the reality here is one where Iran

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<v Speaker 16>and their backed proxies have been empowered with strategic weapons

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<v Speaker 16>on our border and none of this would be able

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<v Speaker 16>to take place if it were not for the Islamic

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<v Speaker 16>Republic of Iran. So I think there is a huge

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<v Speaker 16>concern is they are the destabilizer and they are the disruptor,

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<v Speaker 16>and they have to be held accountable for the actions

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<v Speaker 16>of launching one hundred and eighty one ballistic missiles on Israel.

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<v Speaker 16>You know, one is unacceptable, one hundred and eighty one

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<v Speaker 16>is despicable.

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<v Speaker 2>No, indeed, And so we've heard that Joe Biden has

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<v Speaker 2>now said he's going to help defend Israel by sending

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<v Speaker 2>an advanced air defense system known as FAD or thhd

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:06.280
<v Speaker 2>ID to Israel to help prevent or intercept similar ballistic

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 2>missiles from Iran. The Pentagon saying it's going to send

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred troops on the ground to help operate this system.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this, How will this system help Israel? It's already

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<v Speaker 2>got the iron Dome, So can you explain how this

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<v Speaker 2>is different.

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<v Speaker 16>Israel's aerial defenses are I would say, the best in

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<v Speaker 16>the world, but every air defense system is not airtight.

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<v Speaker 16>Our aerial defense like the Iron Dome, but also like

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<v Speaker 16>David Sling and the arrow systems, they work on different

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<v Speaker 16>levels of the atmosphere, above atmosphere and beneath the atmosphere

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<v Speaker 16>and lower levels, and each component of this aerial defense

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<v Speaker 16>system has a role in defending our airspace. The THAD mechanism,

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<v Speaker 16>which is a US based operations system, is something that

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<v Speaker 16>throughout the course of many years, the IDEF and the

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<v Speaker 16>US Armed Forces have exercised together precisely for a scenario

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<v Speaker 16>that Iran could jeopardize Israel's sky. So I think, and

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<v Speaker 16>I won't speak on behalf of the Americans, that I

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<v Speaker 16>understand that there is a joint interest, like we spoke beforehand,

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<v Speaker 16>and therefore they are definitely leaning into defenders well and

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 16>defenders ral sky. The defense mechanisms is just one component though,

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<v Speaker 16>of course, of our system. There's the active defense systems

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<v Speaker 16>like the Iron Dome, but it's also the individual responsibility

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 16>that we put on each and every citizen. You heard

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<v Speaker 16>the sirens when you're here. Each an individual needs to

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<v Speaker 16>take responsibility, so there's passive defense systems also individual responsibility.

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<v Speaker 16>And then of course that complimented with the offensive activities,

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<v Speaker 16>We're not going to take it anything sitting down or

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 16>lying down from our military is responsible for engaging, for

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<v Speaker 16>dealing a strong deterring, deterring but also decisive to those

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.759
<v Speaker 16>that seek us out. And I would definitely suggest to

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 16>the Islamic Republic of Iran to look at very closely

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 16>how we have destroyed and dismantled Hamas, it's leadership, it's

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 16>capability to carry out in October seventh attack ever again,

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 16>and what we've done to Hasbullah its most formidable proxy

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<v Speaker 16>on our border in the north. Hasbulla who have been decapitated.

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<v Speaker 16>We've taken out vast majority or a huge element of

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 16>their strategic capability. The levels of their operations are diminished,

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<v Speaker 16>and the operational capability of actually conducting attacks against us

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<v Speaker 16>is also extremely limited. It's not completely gone, but considering

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<v Speaker 16>the fact that for twenty years they've been building this

0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:46.160
<v Speaker 16>capability Iran on our border, that Bulla's been training and

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<v Speaker 16>building their forces.

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<v Speaker 2>Apologies for interrupting, we've just got less than a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just want to get this final question in

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<v Speaker 2>before we go. Can you tell me just how close

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<v Speaker 2>Iran is to developing a functioning nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 16>I don't want to go into this type of discussion.

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<v Speaker 16>It is a concern as well, has been concerned about

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:10.240
<v Speaker 16>it for many years. The world needs to rally around

0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 16>this idea that this destabilizer of the Middle East and

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<v Speaker 16>beyond cannot hold. Imagine conducting a wall against the our

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 16>enemies today if Iran was a nuclear power.

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<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely terrifying thought, Peter Lerner. I really appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 2>The insights have been invaluable. Thank you very much. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that's it for me. I'll see you tomorrow night at

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<v Speaker 2>eight o'clock. Another big show as always, but right now

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Murray is back.