1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: New Hawthorne captain John you can hit with a dangerous 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: tackles suspension, but the Hawks abounds the tribunal and hope 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: their premium midfield up. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 2: Might still face the Giants. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 3: Premiership defender Stephen May announces his immediate retirement, completing Melbourne's 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 3: off season third and as. 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Opening round launches in Sydney, We're stacked to begin our season. 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: Greg Swan, having seen the dry run for the rule changes, 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: plus Chriscott and Michael Voss on Coaches. 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 3: Nights Bolas today, can you help me on on three 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: sixty one? 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: Are you aware of that conversation? Yeah? I don't live 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: under a rock. 14 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 3: The reality is now that the gloves are off coorse 15 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: fair and luck. 16 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 2: More at point job is pretty clear, like Hawthorne when 17 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 2: it would be very good at hide the seat. Be sure, 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: I think the Carlo follow buco. I can't have that. 19 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: I what do you want to play? Worse? When you 20 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: caught my eye and mustang that all right, it's just 21 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: the Cragus Prize. First look at it, she said, there's 22 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: a Dante in that car. Look sure enough there is. 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I guess attending the cup is better than a hole 24 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: in the bucket. 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 3: Cary lyon welcome back, here we go again, Jared. Good 26 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: to be here key off season goes quick the second 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: of March, early start, Jared. 28 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: We're looking with rain pouring and Melbourne. It does feel a. 29 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: Bit like footage. 30 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: It's footy season about get underway, and we've had the 31 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: preliminaries and there's lots to talk about. 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure whether we'd get you back after the 33 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Escapades of Origin when you went part e j written 34 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: part Guss Gould. I thought this sounds fining anymore. 35 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 4: I know. 36 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: I tell you, if I could have, if you could 37 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: have that team that we had as your home and 38 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: away team, jerd. 39 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be back here, all right. 40 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: So I did a little bit of prying, right, So 41 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: what was Gary's role? And I've seen the vision from 42 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: the meeting Insie go right the chief affirming officer. Yep, yep, 43 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: that's right. I told, yes, I've got it all. That's 44 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: exactly how we should be going about it. And then 45 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: it just took a rather odd to no, no, no, no, no, 46 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: what was he giving you there that you didn't like? 47 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: I said, he start Toby Green on the bench, Oh no, no. 48 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: After I spoke to Toby. 49 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: You're not starting you on the events. 50 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: He's going to come in Christ I might ask you. 51 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: So salute to you is you were one of the 52 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: great believers in the industry that Oregon still had its place, 53 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: and that was proven to us last month. 54 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 3: I think it's a fantastic addition to the off season. 55 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: You know, two weeks ago now seems like a lifetime, 56 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: but it just got us back in the mood for footy. 57 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: The boys loved that, the players love that. There's a 58 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: few creeks, there's a few aches and pains that have 59 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 3: come out of it, but it was worth it. I think, 60 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: well worth. 61 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: It all right. 62 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: So Chris Scott's going to join us at the desk. 63 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: Michael Voss is Greg sworn. The AFL has been in 64 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: touch with its clubs during the day, so he'll convey 65 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: to you what we've all been told around the way 66 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: the rules were implemented through the community series. And then 67 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: Couch returns with Jack, Jordan, Nathan and Jonathan Brown in place. 68 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: Let's get into the agenda. At the top of it 69 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: is a man who will no longer be a part 70 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty sixth season Premiership defender Stephen May 71 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: brought close to a tumultuous off season, he took the 72 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: resolution to retire from footy. 73 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 4: You know, if you listen to what Stevens say and 74 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 4: how he addressed the group, he's taken responsibility. 75 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: For where things are at. 76 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 4: He hasn't been at the club now for the better 77 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: part of five weeks, so he's a long way behind 78 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: in where he should be from pre season. Ultimately, us 79 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: as a club, we've got standers and values that we 80 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 4: expect everybody at the football club to meet. Stephen knew 81 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: he wasn't meeting those, so took the decision to retire. 82 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 4: We wanted to make sure that first and foremost, given 83 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 4: the challenges that Stephen was going through, he was supported. 84 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: But we also need to recognize it it's more than 85 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 4: just Steven inside the footay club. We've got standards and 86 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: values that need to be met. Stephen couldn't meet those. 87 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: Like anyone else, they need to think about what their 88 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: future is and Stephen on this occasion decided that he 89 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: couldn't focus on his family and his own self as 90 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: well as meeting the riggers of AFL football, so he's 91 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: decided to retire. 92 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: It was heading down this path really from October when 93 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: Melbourne met with Stephen May told him if he could 94 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: find a new home, go free to a good home essentially, 95 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: and in a competition where there is a dearth of 96 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: big key defenders, he couldn't find one as no one 97 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: was prepared to offer him him that lifeline. It has 98 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: become more tumultuous as the off season has gone on, 99 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: and to hear the standards and values as this felt 100 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: like the right outcome. 101 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 102 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: I think Stephen by his art admission, had become a 103 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: distraction for a football club that's started trying to reset. 104 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: It's been big change down in the footay club and 105 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 3: I think the decision in the end was the right one. 106 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: How will he be remembered. I don't think there's any 107 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: doubt in the world that he goes down as one 108 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: of the twenty three heroes that was able to deliver 109 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 3: Melbourne Footy club a premiership when it looked at times 110 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: in my supporting days that may never have happened. And 111 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: the role that he played during that time. I mean, 112 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 3: we'll dissect his career and it will be dissected in 113 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: the next couple of days. He was an unbelievably good 114 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: footy player, an unbelievably good footy player, but ultimately you 115 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: can actualy out of a footy club too, Jared, I 116 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: think there's an element to that as well with Stephen King. 117 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: And he'll be remembered as a two hundred and fifty game, 118 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: two time All Australian Premiership player. It's a great resume 119 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: who had some difficulties along the way as well. 120 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: It is it's a complex legacy because of what you've 121 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: just outlined there. So he's an inaugural son. He goes 122 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: on to be a co captain there, he's a prize 123 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: target for Melbourne after eight years in the expansion market, 124 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: he comes and he gets the two all in Australians. 125 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: He's probably the story of folklore in the Grand Final 126 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: where he plays with the torn hamstringers. 127 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: Has resumed later, but he. 128 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: Has these moments where he looks like a poor teammate. 129 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: My Entra Cotte bust up the way he treated Max 130 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: Gorn in the King's Birthday last year, and he's hads 131 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: off field. Let's call them complications which are still to 132 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: fully resolve. 133 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and don't for one second think that most AFL 134 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: Premiership clubs or successful clubs haven't had one or two 135 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: difficult players that sit within that group. Now I'm not 136 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 3: saying that was Stephen the whole time, but he would 137 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: appear that he's become difficult. And look, when you're a 138 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: really good, strong foota club, you can handle that, you 139 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: can handle those personalities. I think that, you know, the 140 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: Delon coach is going to join us, and what they've 141 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 3: been able to do and how they handle some players 142 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 3: that may not toe the line exactly is different the 143 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: way other clubs that aren't a structurally strong So look, 144 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: I thank him. I think he'll he'll go as I say, 145 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: as a Melbourne premiership player and that's you know, that's 146 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: the highest accolade from our footy club point of view. 147 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: And I'm disappointed that he's gone out in the way 148 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 3: he has, but there's a standard that needs to be 149 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: set and he can't quite get there. And again, by 150 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: his own admission, he'd become a distraction. So you know, 151 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 3: out today, another player gets an opportunity as a result 152 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 3: of it. 153 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: It felt like the sentiment from the Melbourne public was 154 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: thanks and this is the right decision because of all 155 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: the change that has gone on is that the planks 156 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: have been stripped away, not one way or another, and 157 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: this is sort of another key moment of that. 158 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's the world we live in 159 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: there right, so, particularly when you get to that stage 160 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: of his career. But along the way, I was talking 161 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: to a couple of Melbourne people today and they we're 162 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: talking about him book. 163 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: God, he is good. 164 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: At a time when there was Franklin and there was 165 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: Kerno and there was Hawkins, the security as a supporter 166 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: to go yeah, okay, but we've got Mazie and he 167 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: was at his best. He was an unbelievably good footy player. 168 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: So well done, good career. Hopefully I can get his 169 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 3: life in order. And as I say, you always have 170 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: a home at the Melbourn Footy Club as a Premiership hero. 171 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: So that's what has the most permanent outcomes out of 172 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: the weekend. The temporary revolve around the mro and the 173 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: suspensions that begin a season. So this is particularly bitter 174 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: for Giant Newcomb. At the moment he's just been elevated 175 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: to captaincy alongside James Cicily. He remains their key player 176 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: in the center of the field in the absence of 177 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: will Day. And the dangerous tackle one arm Pinn Richards 178 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: in a vulnerable position, head slaps into the grounds. It 179 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: looked garden variety, one week's suspension when it landed get 180 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: tested tomorrow night. 181 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: Well this is your We were much better at this 182 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,559 Speaker 3: and I did this game. It was asked and I said, look, 183 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: it ticks a lot of boxes in terms of you know, 184 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: he had one arm and it went to ground. I 185 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: thought the fact that he hadn't been knocked out and 186 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: naively might have saved him. So they have their job 187 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: cut out to try and turn it around. Was get 188 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: Hawthorne's best player and what was ultimately pretty disappointing night. 189 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: So they'll be desperate for him to play. But it 190 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: first came out Jared, I don't reckon he does this 191 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: in the sixth game. You know, you've got to get 192 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: yourself back into that mindset and go, okay, what happens? 193 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: We are so much of these players here. What am 194 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: I supposed to do When I've tackled him and I'm 195 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: halfway to ground? Where is it again? 196 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: Oh? 197 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to let that arm go, or now 198 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: I've got to let him go. And that's sort of 199 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: counterintuitive to what you do as a footballer, and we 200 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: asked him to be counterintuitive in that instance, and I 201 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: don't think he does that in round five or six. 202 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: History tells us they don't. They don't because I tell 203 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: you all the time, players the quickest reactors. They react 204 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: and change their behaviors really quickly. And last year we 205 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: just wanted to be able to tell us we had next. 206 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: To no yeah. 207 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: So I think we've gone from mid thirties to teens 208 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: to five yeah. And then we start off with this 209 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: and to protect the integrity of the crackdowns, this has 210 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: to be sent forth. 211 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: Yes, Hawthorne have. 212 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: The night to work out how to make a case, 213 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: which it. 214 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: Takes us to Sam Durham, who also, yeah. 215 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: Actually you can run this part Swarning when he gets here, 216 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: rather than. 217 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's not going to see him there, and 218 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 3: let's wait till Swany gets here. Gary and read the rundown. 219 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: But dozy player was Jed Walter done a lot? Now? 220 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: His trajectory is interesting because he wasn't in the chosen 221 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: teams for the finals, so he's had the summit of 222 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: the stew and that to ready himself for it. He 223 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: committed himself up and down the field right through this game. 224 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: But as it's fizzling now, that's just going to cost 225 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: your week every single time. 226 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's just that's just stupid from Jed and 227 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: there's nothing next to nothing in it. And the only 228 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: outcome that could come is he sits out round one 229 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: and when he's in a fight for a spot with 230 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: Jamaara hugle Haagen and you know, maybe Jamara comes out 231 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: and kicks six and he might not get his spot 232 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: back in. So no, I watched most of that game. 233 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: He worked really hard, and you know, he looked like 234 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: to me a player that the penny had dropped and 235 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: he understands that, you know, he spot is no longer guaranteed, 236 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: and now he gives it up on something stupid like that. 237 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: So no sympathy for Jed on that one. 238 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: All right, let's dealve into all that transpired. It's a 239 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: systems check. It's absolutely necessary for all sorts of reasons. 240 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: She was a wild old time in the community series, Bucs. 241 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: You're looking great in there Cat's colors. 242 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 5: How are you feelings. 243 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: Welcome to see Jack? 244 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 3: I feel like I've come to a wedding of the 245 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 3: under dread. 246 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 2: How much you're going to pay you like giving the 247 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: ball every time? Is he going to give you surely 248 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 2: half of his contract? Hold on amby fla it get 249 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: a win through our group. 250 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: It's obvious that we haven't really mine many games in 251 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 4: a long. 252 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: Time now, so just to practice that winning feeling. 253 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: I just feel so grateful to be out here. 254 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: It's been a long journey, but all credit to the 255 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: rehab staff. 256 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: They got me back to this position. 257 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: It's too dangerous for the players to be out. 258 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: Even then they throw us out on a field. 259 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 2: It wasn't your average game of footy and probably not 260 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: the ideal leader. 261 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: It was a final systems check that came with its 262 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: challenges lightning and rain and floods causing all manner of 263 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: havoc through the community series. It wasn't seamless from the 264 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: rules perspective. Put the frightened through the Cats camp at 265 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: one stage. It wasn't perfect. Just ask Riley Sanders, who 266 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: learnt that the hard way, and it approved costly for 267 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: a couple who are going to sit out for the 268 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: early round of the season. Jagger showed that he'll be 269 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: worth the way for Blues fans and American fitted rather 270 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: seamlessly over in the West and the stars didn't muck around. 271 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: Zach is in showroom condition, attracking many an. I nas 272 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: he began his bid, but he's foot, he quite matched 273 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: in his check and he might become the best in 274 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: the competition. So we got to look at the game, 275 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: at the teams, at the players. Let's put it all 276 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: to the test. Greg Swan, great to have you here, welcome. 277 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. Boys. 278 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: The honeymoon periods over. You had this last year. Banks 279 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: straight into the hot seat. 280 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: Where you go, yeah, well that's right now the real 281 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: season starts. It'tle bit even hotter, I think, but says 282 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: so good. 283 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: You've got your first gut puncher, a suspension handed down, 284 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: a shot across the bowers of the competition, and the trivia. 285 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: The trivia will be Harry Shelmberg. 286 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, we sent out some clips to the clubs 287 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: and yeah, what would be penalized? Then Harry hit most 288 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: of these or hit the ball to be honest, he 289 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: had a swinging arm, closed fist and yeah, off the ball, 290 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's got a week. 291 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: I commend you Swani. I've been calling for this for 292 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: a long long time, only because this will put the 293 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 3: rest of the competition, I notice, and there's always got 294 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 3: to be one. You've got to break a couple of eggs, 295 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: but I can nearly guarantee there might be one more 296 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 3: pickle that does it throughout the year, and that'll just 297 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: send a clear message story about that. 298 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: That's what you hope for. I mean, I think when 299 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: it came in it was for that, just as a deterrent. 300 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: And I mean, it is interesting we've had one early 301 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: in the season, but hopefully that's, as you say, that'll 302 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: be the last one we see. 303 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: The conjecture here will always be around force, won't it. 304 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: It will And that's and again with the clips we 305 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: sent out, there's that'll be Chris's core, whether the force 306 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: isn't up. But in this instance it was pretty clear 307 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: that there was enough force. Evan went down and it 308 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: was yeah, it was doing to be a week Jared, 309 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 2: very simple. Yeah, that's that's the that's the And you know, 310 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: we talk about what happens at junior levels and things 311 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: like that too, that they know they mimic the guys 312 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: playing the heroes in the AFL, So there was talk 313 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: around the juniors that there was a lot of that happening. 314 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: So hopefully that stops that too, and the sling tackles. 315 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 3: Dured just gave us a number. So as I will say, 316 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: players respond and they react, and they just their behaviors. 317 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: Now we had a couple already on the weekend, so 318 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: John Nukem goes and gets a week, so I understand why. 319 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: I thought, maybe Richards gets up and he might be okay. 320 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 3: But this behavior I don't think will happen halfway through 321 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: the year or even in a couple of games time. 322 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 3: I don't reckon John Nukom there as being militias. I 323 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: think he's just forgot that. You know what we're asking. 324 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: But in this one you got two arms almost locked. 325 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: That's a double action to me, Swanny, So just explain. 326 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: I don't want to get into the minutia of this 327 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: for the rest of the year, but just explain the 328 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: difference that to me looked like a more likely bench 329 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: in the new comers. 330 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: I think. I think the thing that saved in that 331 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: instance was that burns his head and hit the ground. 332 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: So I think he was lucky as if it did, 333 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: he was he was going to certainly get a week. 334 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: But he doesn't. He doesn't hit the ground, so that 335 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: they're the main differences both didn't let go like I 336 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: heard you guys talking about it at the start, but 337 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: you can certainly see with ed Rich as his head 338 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: sort of he has a bit of a bounce on 339 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: the ground, so that that was there. 340 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: That's the main difference with Sam Durm in that instance, 341 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: isn't he he was lucky? 342 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: Lucky? He was lucky because if his head hit the ground, 343 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: he was definitely going to get suspended. 344 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: The new suite of rules, what have you gone through today? 345 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: And I imagine there are a lot of questions asked 346 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: and some guidance to the clubs as we all refine 347 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: for Thursday nights. 348 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, the club have been really good and we've asked 349 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: for a lot, So anything that they're unsure, I've send 350 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: it in and will go over and have a look. 351 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: Some of the stats you know, with the rock rules 352 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: been probably the one where we've had most feedback. So 353 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: we had even on the way so we had two 354 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty seven center clearances. They're jumping at ninety 355 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: five percent, so really happy about that. So went from 356 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: about twenty five percent now jumping at that sort of percentage, 357 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: and there was only seven freeze given out of that 358 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: many contests, so you know, all the players and the 359 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: clubs have been really good. So and there have been 360 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: a couple that I think you're going to show me 361 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: now that we're a little bit debatable, but again we've 362 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: looked with that with the umpires Department. We'll send some 363 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: more things out tonight saying that was right, that was wrong, 364 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: a couple of things which you know, we've made some adjustments. 365 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, we just keep liaising with the clubs on those. 366 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: But in the main it's been really good. 367 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: Did you give the umpiring fraternity any instruction as to 368 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: how to adjudicate it, like. 369 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: To the absolute letter of the Lord. 370 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 3: Did you say, listen, let's just let's get this better down. 371 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: Unless it's an ultra obvious one. 372 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in the main it is. The second 373 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: it's alter obvious, like you know, you don't want to 374 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: have a toe over the line and you get pinged 375 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: for that, Like it's got to be pretty blatant that 376 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: you're walking over you're putting it. It's almost like a 377 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: footfold or you know, you go across the pop increase, 378 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: it's got to be pretty blatant that you go across 379 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: before you you know before you get ping. But you know, 380 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: the thing, which we've encouraged everybody, if you start behind 381 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: the line and you jump, then you're ninety nine percent 382 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: you'll be fine. So that's and that's been what's happening 383 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: in the majority of cases. 384 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: So Pittnet created confusion because in the first game there 385 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: was an incorrect free kick. 386 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: That's right, and we cleared it up. Well, we did 387 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: clear it up that night. I think we spoke to 388 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: the Fox guys and said, no, that shouldn't have been 389 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: it free and yeah, so we we've cleared that up. 390 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: And then and probably the yeah, because he doesn't do 391 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: much wrong there. He stays on his side, he ends 392 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: up on the other side of the line, he does, 393 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: but he's just chasing the ball. But even then it's 394 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: because you know, that's just an early jump that misses 395 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: the foot only he's got sort of half his foot over, 396 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: but in the main he hasn't gone across the line 397 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: to block the other guy from jumping. So anyway that 398 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: would be play on in normally the grundy with the stooging. Yeah, 399 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: we've looked at that and he got a free for that, 400 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: but there wouldn't be a free. Now again, if you 401 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: don't jump and you want to, yeah, the stooging, you 402 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: can stooge, but it'll be play on. 403 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 3: So that's like a false inducement. If it's like that 404 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: the stand on the mark. If you go to the 405 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 3: fake ambaal correct and they go off the line, then 406 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: you're not going to pay that. 407 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: That's right. So that will go out today saying that's 408 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: play on. 409 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: And is there an unintended consequence with this? I know 410 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: Shanon Neil ends up not having a pcl LL that's 411 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: told we've got any concern about the fact that the 412 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: jumping is back, and that maybe this is an unintended 413 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: consequence if we get a little space. 414 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, looks, I think you'd be naive to say that 415 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: it's not going to happen. It'll happen, but you know, 416 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: we've sort of given an undertaking if there was a 417 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: pandemic of them, you might change it back, but you 418 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 2: know that's not that was a shin. No, that was 419 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: a shin. So yeah, look, I think it's going to happen. 420 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: But again we think the unintended consequences from a good 421 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: perspective is you know, scores out of the center bouncers 422 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: have gone up. I mean, it's a very small sample size, 423 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: but you know the things that we wanted. The game 424 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: length has come back, the scoring has gone up. Scoring 425 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: from center bouncers has gone up. So you know, we're 426 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: hopeful that that, you know, goes into the main the 427 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: season proper as well. 428 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: Really had a fit because the line didn't go right 429 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: across the middle. 430 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: We fixed that, we did. He was He sent me 431 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: a couple of text No, no, we got it was 432 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: to do with Amy, and there's sponsorship of the of 433 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: the center circles, so we couldn't put the line all 434 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: the way through, but we had a darker line anyway, 435 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 2: it worked, So it's all been fixed. 436 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: We do love Amy added last disposal out of bounds go. 437 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably been the easiest one, to be honest. 438 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: I mean, the only the only thing I suppose is 439 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, a little bit of conjecture 440 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: around the one that's a bit accidental off fishing or 441 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: your foot, but the theory on it a bit. This 442 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: is a good one from Toby where he hits it 443 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: into Tom Brass. But again, if you're in the goal 444 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: square and that happens, that's a goal that comes off 445 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: fishing or below you think, so that's the goal. So 446 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: that's how we adjudicated around the ground. This is the 447 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: best example. Ed Richards goes out of bounds, Bradley Hill 448 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: just picks it straight back up. And that's what we want. 449 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: We want the game moving, we want the game and 450 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: this is just this is the one that's a bit unlucky. 451 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: It does come off his off his leg. But as 452 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: I said, if that was in the goal square and 453 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: the same thing happened, that'll be a goal. So that's 454 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: that's the same. 455 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: You're paying that free kick all day long, yep. 456 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: And so this one that should have been we didn't. 457 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: We didn't have. We're going to use the arc during 458 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: the season to help with those decisions. We didn't have 459 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: that fully operational at Henson Parks, but we would have 460 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: picked that up normally. But we're going to use the 461 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: arc to help if it's very clear who it's come off, So. 462 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: That message would have come down to the sent Central's. 463 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: Off Sydney or off whoever. 464 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: Used the arc the way it rained in that game 465 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: to you in the open didn't have it? Was it 466 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: umpire diligently enough? Have the players got a hang of it, 467 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: and what are you hoping that it does on the 468 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: early evidence? 469 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think again, same thing. We're really happy with it. 470 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: The players have been for the most part, you know, 471 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: very well listening and doing as they're told. I mean, 472 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: I know there's some examples coming, but yeah, so these 473 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: are pretty blatant, to be honest, and the umpires have 474 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: spent a whole you know, twice as much time as 475 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: they ever had before out at the club's telling them 476 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: what's happening. And yeah, we've given vision of it. I mean, 477 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: they're pretty blatant. You give the free you within five meters, 478 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: you've got to stand the market pretty simple, and in 479 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: those instances they did it. This one probably would have 480 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: been a free last fifty last year anyway, because he 481 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: comes from outside the protected area and then keeps running. 482 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: If you had, if you had the the umpires, he 483 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: calls Nate Caddy there about three or four times to 484 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: stand stand, stand, and he kept moving, so you got 485 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: pined fifty same thing here, stand stand. 486 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 3: So they're all within five maus, they're all within the mark. 487 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: Stand within the stand there. That's simple, and then that's 488 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 2: freeing up the short forty fives. Again, the ability to 489 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: move the ball and go quicker. So that's the reason 490 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: that we brought that in, Jared. 491 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: Game length has been on our radar for a while. 492 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: The SAT the Marriage game, which I think is absolutely fine, 493 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: it went long, probably too long for first up hit out. 494 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure there'll be an adjustment made there. But have 495 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 3: you got to in your own mind what the ideal 496 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 3: game length is. And I know you put things in 497 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 3: place that the kicking's going quicker, the ball up, you 498 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: don't have to wait, so all these things probably should 499 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: keep the game moving quicker. 500 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think on average they started to get 501 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: out about thirty six thirty seven minutes, and we want 502 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: to get it back to low thirty thirty one thirty two. Yeah, 503 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: because it was well, two things happened that the ball 504 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: wasn't in play for as long either, so that the 505 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: time in player was reducing, but the length of the 506 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: game was going up. So we've just tried to bring 507 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: those We want the ball in play more and we 508 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: want the length of the game down, so we're trying 509 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: to marry those up. 510 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: Are they're the numbers that are slowly creeped up over 511 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: the last couple of years, but last year come back 512 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 3: a bit yea. 513 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 5: Hopefully comes back again yep. Well, so far it's come 514 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 5: off a couple of that's the impact and place we 515 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 5: score an extra goal, So even if you took those off, 516 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 5: it'll be even, it'll be further reduced. So hopefully, as 517 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 5: I said, it's a very small sample size, but hopefully 518 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 5: we can it keeps going the right way. 519 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: Outside of what you're in control of. 520 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: We were worried about West Coast yesterday to get beaten 521 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: so badly heading into a season after the years that 522 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: they've had down the bottom. 523 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 2: I did watch a bit of that game. I mean, 524 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: maybe we haven't given Port much credit. They were very 525 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: sharp Port, they were good. Yeah, it's always difficult this 526 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 2: time of year with pre season and how people have 527 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 2: been training, and you know what the build up's been, 528 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean it's it would have. It 529 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 2: was a beautiful day for it, so you know, the 530 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 2: skill level probably was a little bit questionable early. Then 531 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: they sort of got going a little bit and then 532 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: they dropped off again. So but pre season is always 533 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: hard to measure. 534 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: The Gold Coast stuns jumping that they wore on the weekend, 535 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: I know that raised and eyebrows at the very highest 536 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: levels in Sydney whose decision was to tick off a 537 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: red and white. 538 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: Jumper for the Suns. I know we're all solid in 539 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 2: at the AFL, but it wasn't me, No go. There 540 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: was a fair bit about that. I must've been. I 541 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: turned that game on and thought, hang on a minute, 542 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: but no, that's a I think that goes through licensing. 543 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: So anyway, that's that's been sort of sort won't happen again, 544 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 2: to be seen again, never to be seen again. It's 545 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: too too Sydney like it was. 546 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 3: And quickly do you watch the NRL season April over 547 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: in Vegas and do you get jealous or I don't. 548 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: Know, Actually I'm not. I didn't watch it, No I was. 549 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: I was watching the two of our games. I watched 550 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 2: North and collingwand and then I watched a fair bit 551 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: of that West Coast game. So no, I didn't. I didn't. 552 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: So you've been on the ground in Brisbane while Peter 553 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: Velandi's has been spooking his number one sport in the country. 554 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: Is it about time the AFL sought to correct that. 555 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,239 Speaker 2: I think it's not right. So that's that's the thing 556 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: that probably peeves you a little bit. Like, you know, 557 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: we're the biggest game. We've we've got the most participants, 558 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: most people watch, most attendees like, so there's a few 559 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 2: there's a bit of there's a bit of poetic license there. 560 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: But to be honest, he spends a lot of time 561 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 2: talking about the AFL, but we don't spend a lot 562 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: of time worrying about him. All we're trying to do 563 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: is make the game better and do all those things 564 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: that we said, you know, make it great for the fans. 565 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: You know, the facilities we've got to come and watch, 566 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 2: and then you have the support we get from Fox 567 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: and Channel seven is huge. So we're comfortable. We've got 568 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: a national code. Obviously, Tassy's coming in so we're going 569 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 2: to be playing in every state. So we're okay and 570 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 2: they're going well, but you know, we don't worry too 571 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 2: much about what they're up to. 572 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: All right, we'll see again in a few weeks, once 573 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: you've got a big sample of work. 574 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: Monthly it's monthly, is it all right? No problem? 575 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: Thanks for having Greg Swawn from the AFL with us. 576 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: Our coaches are about to join us. Our well schooled 577 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: in these jobs by now Michael Voss, with Carlton having 578 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: shown a bit of what they've been working on, and 579 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: Chris Scott to a time premiership coach with the Cats, 580 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: saddles up for the adventure all over again