1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is the Fitzy and Whipper with Kate Richie Podcast. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 2: Stephen Fry, can you hear us? 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: I certainly can. 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 3: Can you get a loud and clear you fine? 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Gin excellent. I've been excited all day at the thought 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: that I'm beging to be speaking to Fitzy and Whipper. 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: I just can't think of a better pairing. It's just delicious. 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: It's interesting. Which just goes together, doesn't it? 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: Like? 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had but Ricky Gervas. 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 4: Ricky Gervas said that we sound like a couple of 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 4: cartoon characters. But mister Fry, you know that in Australia 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 4: that we shortened surnames and that's how we become. That's 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 4: how nicknames and that's how it carries about. I'm trying 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 4: to do them. 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: You see that you actually sound like ice creams? 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: Ah, like the Bill and Jerry's. 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: Yes, I want a Whipper you know off the van, 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: one of those whipped ice creams with a chocolate flake 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: in it. Well, I can see that he is one 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: of the fizzy ones. 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: Yes, anyway, I mean what what's interesting is you know 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: FITZI who works on the show Stephen, He was on 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: Big Brother and he was known as frasy. Now I 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: would suggest that you would have been known as frasy. 26 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: Well, no, that's really good. Did you see Australian's It 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: is a special gift of yours to something. You know. 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: I've been called frighty, which is actually hard to say, bizarre. 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: Stephen, Steve? 30 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: Are we are we like Steve old mate? 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: Are we crossing? Live to you? In your basement? 32 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: You've you've got boxers behind you there, you've got to collection. 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: I've just moved house from behind you where I am there. 34 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: They're going to be shelves right and at the moment 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: those are books waiting for the shelves, and that this 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: is going to be my new study. Would be very 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: happy with it when it's done. 38 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: I thought you'd been evicted again. 39 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be surprised. Fact, is this the. 40 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 4: New book Stephen as well? On Greek mythology? And I 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 4: know it's fascinating. I absolutely adore listening to it and 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 4: reading it. And you've brought out some amazing books and 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: I would love to ask you that I mean Greek mythology. 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: It excites me so much as well. 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: But there is such of gods and goddesses and heroes 46 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 4: and monsters and fools. Do you have a favorite that 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 4: you particularly like to write about? 48 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm almost bound to say, because 49 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: it's the last one, that the story of Odysseus getting 50 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: home is one of the great stories because there are 51 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: so many stories within it, but it's a story of 52 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: homecoming and homecoming. I think it was new to the 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: human race in a way, or relatively in you that 54 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: in the Bronze Age, people that settled down that started 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: to build houses, and there were trading, and you know, 56 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: the sea levels had stabilized, so there were little villages 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: by the sea, had become harbors, had become port cities, 58 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: and there was a new kind of way of living 59 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: and and part of it was home. And a very 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: important Greek god that people often forget about was called Hestia, 61 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: and she was the goddess of the half and the 62 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: Greek valve. One of the Greek words valv is cardia, 63 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: which is like heart, as is the Saxon word half. 64 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: An art connected We've always had this deep sense of 65 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: the hearth and the Roman the Latin for half is focus, 66 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: and our word focus that we use now for all 67 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: kinds of things. Originally it meant that the place around 68 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: which we sat with a fire in the evening. Yes, 69 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: it just shows how important it is. And you know, 70 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: partly one thinks this was when humanity was most bound 71 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: into families and clans and out of the tribes and 72 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: countries were small things. Your identity and your belonging was smaller, 73 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: and the hearth was part of it. And it's where 74 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: you sat, it's where you told stories in front of 75 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: the flames. You explained why the thunder rumbled, and you 76 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: know why why dead twigs could have green shoots coming 77 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: out of them in the springtime made that and all 78 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: those forces would be gods. And of course it doesn't 79 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: take much thinking to remember the time when, probably you're 80 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: too younger, when I was young, when television was the hearth. 81 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: The whole family sat around this flickering light, and stories 82 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: were told, and we all watched at the same time. 83 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: The human family in your country watched it at the 84 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: same time. And maybe part of the trouble with our 85 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: fractured world now is that the half has disappeared. It 86 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. And even television, which seems like a modern 87 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: version of the hearth, and some people may say a 88 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: vulgar intrusion on the real idea of hearth. But even 89 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: that seems noble compared to the fact that you know, 90 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: in the family, she's you know, on her social media 91 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: in her room, God knows what he's watching in his room. 92 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: Her brother Yeah, and then he's ordered a pizza, she's 93 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: ordered a curry, and mom and dad are watching something 94 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: else in another room on the you know, the half 95 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: has split up the flag. But that deep yearning for home, 96 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: the return home the warriors and fishermen and traders had 97 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: in a country like greecea you know, and a marine 98 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: maritime country that woulturn. And there was a word they 99 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 1: had for it, which is the Greek word nostos, which 100 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: means return home. And in the sixteenth century they had 101 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: the Thirty Years War and a religious war in Europe, 102 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: a huge, terrible war, and the Swiss mercenaries were hired 103 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: by both sides to fight on their behalf paid good money. 104 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: And a Swiss doctor noticed that a lot of these 105 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: oldiers were getting ill, but the illness was so peculiar 106 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: the only thing he could call it was an illness 107 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: missing home, and so he coined the word nostos, the 108 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: return home, and algier pain nostalgia. Nostalgia was born. Yeah, 109 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: and so we all have this. I think we all 110 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: have in our heart. Whether it's whether it's the kind 111 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: of TV that was on when we came home from 112 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: school and bound the statue on the table and poured 113 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: out a both sweet cereals and there was the Simpsons 114 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: on TV or whatever it was that was on at 115 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: that time, some quiz show. Even the music of it 116 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: reminds you of that and that that sort of time 117 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: when you were probably rather moody and annoyed. Anyway, you 118 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: look back at it now and you think that was 119 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: that was you know, that's the center of the unifor 120 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: was home. That's where you belong, and we're all trying 121 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: to get back to it in a strange kind of way, 122 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: I think. And that's why the odyssey, and we use 123 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: the word of course odyssey personal odyssees this odyssey, that odyssey, 124 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: that journey to get back to the heart of who 125 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: you are and where you belong. It's something we all feel. 126 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: And I guess that's why I think it's such a 127 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: lovely story. 128 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: Stephen, that that's extraordinary. I mean your knowledge, I mean 129 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: I threw the Internet out the window years ago. I 130 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: just watched QI, I mean the twenty one seasons that 131 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: you hosted. I think I got most of my agor. 132 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: I actually bought it on DVD. I used to love 133 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: that show so much. 134 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. 135 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: No, I did because I was just fascinated by what 136 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: you had to share, and you made things make sense, 137 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: and you brought to light also things that people hadn't 138 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: thought about. And I'm always interested. And I suppose it's 139 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: coming back to the hearth, where you want to know 140 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: where the origin of things are from, and you know 141 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: where the home of maybe possibly words come from. 142 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: Yes, and that's when there's a fantasy work for that, 143 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: which is etiology begins with an ae. But the cause 144 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: of things and the egeological myths are ones that were 145 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: always my favorite when I was a child, you know, 146 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: like Arakney, who was a brilliant weaver but was so boastful. 147 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: She claimed that she could weave better than the goddess Athena, 148 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: who was the what the goddess of handicrafts and wisdom 149 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: and all these things. And she was weaving away and 150 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: all her villagers were looking around saying, oh, Arakney is 151 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: the best weaver in the world. And then this old 152 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: crone comes and says, oh, I could we better than you? 153 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: And she says, no, you can't, really ridiculous, And as 154 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: they say, they have a competition. And then the old 155 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: crones that Iracne shows hers and it's beautiful, it's a 156 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: stunning it's almost alive. But then when the old chrome 157 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: shows hers, people gasp they had never seen weaving of 158 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: such quality. Suddenly the old Crone isn't an old crone, 159 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: she's the goddess Athena. And Aracney rushes out to the 160 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: garden and hangs herself on a tree, and Athena says, 161 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: poor foolish girl, poor foolish gown. That's the string of 162 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: the rope that she's hanging herself bounces up and down, 163 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: and the body of Iraci becomes all sort of scrum 164 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: up and dried up, and she gurns herself on the 165 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: rope and scuttles away, now a spider and spends the 166 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: rest of her life weaving, which is some people say 167 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: if they have punishment, and others it's her reward, and 168 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: that's why spiders are called a raknetz. This is. 169 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: This what we can expect with an evening with Stephen Fry. 170 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: You are playing, well, it's such a beautiful theater, State Theater, 171 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: November eight nine. You can get tickets at just for 172 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: Lass dot Sydney Forward slash Stephen Fry. 173 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: But is this what we can expect? Is there a 174 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: Q and a pebble your show? 175 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: There will be a Q and a exactly when people 176 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: be asked to give their questions at the very beginning 177 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: as they go in. I think it's either a QR 178 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: code what isn't a Q and they'll get onto the 179 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: site and they'll be able to type in a program. 180 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: I'll get a chance to look at the you know, 181 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: the ones in the interval that not promising, and some 182 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: of them could be yes for me to tell stories 183 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: and and reveal secrets my dreadful life and read as well. 184 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: Because I love I want to to some extent to 185 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: recreate in that beautiful space. I have played at the 186 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: State Theater before and it is just the most fabulous. 187 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: Is the gorgeous interior. I hope to cruent that sort 188 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: of atmosphere of bed time when you're a child and 189 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: there's a story coming, or even just when we were 190 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: all children, if you like, when mankind was in its 191 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: childhood in caves and the fire flickering to keep the 192 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: wolves and bears at bay, and and and we told 193 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: each other stories about how the world was made and 194 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: where people came from. 195 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: And Stephen can I ask, also, is there a topic 196 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: you don't know anything about? 197 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: I mean, if I throw, I don't me cats? Do 198 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: you know anything about me? 199 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: Cats? 200 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: I mean, is there I'm very fond of me. 201 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: I tell you what it is in a way. And 202 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: this was like I used to think that QI was 203 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: really like a cookery program in that if you see 204 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: a very obese person, which I sort of not I 205 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: am at the moment, but kind of I'm still way 206 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: to my doctor says, you know the reason they are 207 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: a beast. There's no getting away from it, because it's 208 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: the only way you can put on any mass at 209 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: all is through the organic substances we push through the 210 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: hole in our head that we call our mouth. That's 211 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: the only possible way you can put on weight there is, 212 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: apart from putting on a large a large knapsack y. 213 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: You put things in the hole in your head and 214 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: they turn into body matter. And so you know when 215 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: you see a very beast person that they're quite greedy 216 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: and sillily. I am greedy for knowing so that if 217 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: you go, I pick it up and I put it 218 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: in if I if it looks appealing. And that's what 219 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: q I was. It was just a great big tray 220 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: exciting sweets, I guess, but there was the violet crumble. 221 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can take. 222 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 4: A while, you can t We can't wait to have 223 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 4: you in our in our magnificent country of delicacies. To 224 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 4: come down here Stephen and you can eat as much 225 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 4: as you want. We can't wait to see you November 226 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 4: eight night. Like I said, tickets are just for Las 227 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: Dot Sydney Ford slash Stephen Frye. 228 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure. 229 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: We are huge fans of yours, Steven, so thank you 230 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: so much for coming on the show this morning. 231 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: Real pleasure. Thanks for having me and good luck. 232 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: Thanks Steven, We see you when you're in town. 233 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: You Bert, good bye. 234 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 2: Thanks Steve. 235 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast walk great 236 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: shows like this. 237 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: Download the Nova 238 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: Player, fire, the app Store or Google Playing