1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: City and with Kate Ritchie Podcast to talk about breastfeeding 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: and not your own breastfeeding, but the breastfeeding of other 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: children that don't belong to you, like a wet nurse, 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Like yeah, a bit like a wet nurse, but a 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: wet nurse would imply that there. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Was some official registration, well, you know. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: A consent involved. This story comes out of Malaysia and 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: there's a woman she said she was going off to 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: a big family event and she's very busy. I'm guessing 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: she was. You know, she's one of the women who's 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: she's planned and she's done all the cooking and she's 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, so she's she's getting ready for this event. 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: She's got a very good girlfriend there with her helping, 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: and so she passes her young son over to her 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: friend while she you know, I don't know, I'm making 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: this up packs the car. You know, it takes the 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: clean wrap off the top of the egg sand which. 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: Whatever it is dressing on the salad, and the final. 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: Stage pops in the cave. So just to get a 20 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: cole slow, because you can't be making it can't be 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 3: stuff making a sal You. 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: Always have to make your own cold slaw did you 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: say cold salt cold? No, you have to make your 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: own own cold. 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: So much cold sauce to everyone and the old family. 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: Another it's not. 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: It's a different it's a simplex virus. It's not the 28 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: thing anyway. So I do get cold sauce. 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: That was pretty fun. 30 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: I never got No, that's something else. 31 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: Do you get cold sauce, don't you fits? 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: I do get cold. 34 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're fine. You find if people don't stare at 35 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: you very defensive about it, well, because there's nothing. 36 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: To it's not one. Is that coming up there? 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: That's what that was a b C C cut out 38 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: of my face. 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: Thanks for bringing it up again. 40 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: Whoa that is a touchy subject that we got told 41 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: not to bring up. 42 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's coming up. 43 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: Well, you can barely even see it anyway. This woman 44 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: thinks that the other woman's assisting her getting stuff done. 45 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: So she's got the son, Hayter his name is, And 46 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: then she realizes, I don't know if she's she's like 47 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 1: all mums with eyes in the back of her head. 48 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: She sees the friend out the back in the kitchen, 49 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: not once, but twice breastfeeding her son. Wow, huge call 50 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: with what Yeah, she the excuse is well, the baby 51 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: was crying, of course, but you don't just start breastfeeding 52 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: somebody else's child firstly without asking is it a friend or. 53 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: A family members. This is the tough one because of it. 54 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it matters. My sister did it if 55 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: I had, yeah, if may it was being looked after 56 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: by her auntie, and she said the baby was crying, 57 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: and so I decided to. 58 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 2: Breast her et. 59 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: I would be firstly creeped out, but. 60 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 3: Few you're not happy with Beck's breast milk, wine. 61 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: Breasts out of it. 62 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: No, it's got nothing to do with the quality of milk. 63 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: But in this day and age, I mean, I know, 64 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: years ago before the bottle was invented and when some 65 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: women couldn't breastfeed, it makes complete sense. And yes, of course, 66 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: if it's you know, the decision is being made because 67 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: either the baby is fed or the baby starves to death, 68 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: then what course feed the baby. But in this day 69 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: and age, there's not It's just not relevant. You never 70 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: ever breastfeed anyone else's child, even with asking. I think 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: it's I just don't think it's right. It's very intimate. 72 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: There wasn't can I just quickly do a shout out 73 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: thirteen twenty fourteen. If anyone has has shared this. 74 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Yes, and why, like what were the circumstances, because maybe 75 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: it's okay, are you. 76 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: Let a sister or you let a friend Gania if 77 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: he's crying, yeah he can. 78 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 5: You don't know, like that woman might not have even 79 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 5: had breast milk. She may have just used her boob 80 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 5: or teat as a pacifier. 81 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: No, but it still doesn't It doesn't matter. 82 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: Actually fact I didn't have a dummy. 83 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't don't I know what you mean. So it's like, 84 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: don't I can't produce milk. But the thing that's going 85 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: to make this baby stop crying is if it thinks 86 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: it has a dummy, and it's you don't get a dummy. 87 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: You can use you, you can use your little for 88 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: you could not in COVID times. Mate. So the only 89 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: safe thing is a bosom. 90 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: Give me your break. It's exactly the same from the 91 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: same body. 92 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: It's a bosom to the rescue. 93 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: And I suggest I think always it can be. But 94 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: as long as it's the it's it's the mother's. 95 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: Breast, you should always ask. 96 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: Okay, we are getting calls here. 97 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: I don't just stick a breast in the mouth. 98 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 5: Now. 99 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone has shared their child with 100 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: someone else when it comes to breastfeeding, but we are 101 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: getting calls. We've got a nerse here who's got stories 102 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: as well. Kim's given a giving us a call from eldestly. 103 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: You are a nurse, what did you experience, Kim? 104 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 6: We actually had a grandmother that has given birth and 105 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 6: her daughter had also given birth, and they're about babies 106 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 6: are aback to speaks apart. And the mother was breastfeeding 107 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 6: her baby and then the grandchild started crying, so the 108 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 6: daughter handed her grandchild over to the mother, to the grandmother, 109 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 6: and the grandmother continued to feed that child as well. 110 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: That's life in the village. 111 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: Well, and how did the nurses feel around that? Is 112 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: that unusual? 113 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 6: It was very uncomfortable. But I mean even if I 114 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 6: did bring it up and tell them that that that 115 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 6: was not appropriate and all that dad of stuff, and 116 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 6: she's what we're supposed to do as far as nursing 117 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 6: by Yeah, it was very hard in regards because they 118 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 6: knew once I left the home they were still going 119 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 6: to continue doing it. 120 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: Can we have two here? We have two milk outlets. 121 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: Let's just learnt it from a practical form. I can 122 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: get it here, I can get it there. What's the 123 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: convenient they're both on tap. 124 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: It's Johann Blake handing the relay baton over to your 125 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: saying Bolt, you know what I mean, You continue and 126 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: you break the world. 127 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: I cannot believe you're using a sports enalogy. 128 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: Breastfeeding, Janelle. What about Janelle and Harrington Park? What did 129 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: you see, Janelle? 130 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 4: Oh, I actually saw. Good morning guys, by the way, 131 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 4: you know you're beautiful. 132 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: I actually saw on. 133 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: The community pages, you know how Facebook has, like the 134 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: community page, there was a lady on there requesting breast 135 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: milk because her breast milk had dried up, so she 136 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 4: still wanted to breastfeed her baby breath milk. So she 137 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: was requesting people to donate any excess milk that they had, 138 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 4: whether it be frozen or fresh. She didn't care. 139 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: Okay, look, I get. 140 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: This is very much for community. 141 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: It's a very tricky conversation to have because, you know, 142 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: mothers should be able to make their own choices for 143 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: their babies. But if you're getting breast milk Willy Milly 144 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: on a Facebook page you don't even know what is 145 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: what's the composition of that. 146 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: Breast milk could be cut with something? 147 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: You know, Tommy, how do you feel about sharing breast 148 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: milk or even women breastfeeding in public? 149 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: What you whip has handed you some sort of set 150 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: up question? 151 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: If I look silly, what do you have? Breastfeeding at all? 152 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: But in public? 153 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: In public? 154 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: What's why do you think women should not be able 155 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: to breastfeed? 156 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: Good? Good, really good? 157 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: I said to you. 158 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: Sometimes I feel a bit awkward if I dart my 159 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: eyes and suddenly I'm looking at it. Well, not when 160 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: you're standing in meeting from them and you're staring straight 161 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: up just. 162 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: Feeding, tom It's giving life, mate. 163 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: That's something that says a lot more about you than 164 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: mother herself. 165 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: Let the children feed. You're really good. The future of 166 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: tomorrow feed. 167 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: Look at you differently now. 168 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: Thank you for your calls. You both in the running 169 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: for Tinko Dyne Maine. So are you? Tom You got 170 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: on there, gradual. Thank you first staring at women. 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