1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Five Double A Nights with Matthew Pantellas. All right, I 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: am joined right on half past eight with the my 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: lovely guest who's always in on a Wednesday night, Tracy Yen. 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Who is here tonight? Tracy? Hello? How are you hi? 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Matthew, I'm great, Thank you? How are you good? 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: Thank you? Now we're going to be talking about diabetes tonight. 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: Well I had to switch over. 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Oh did you I was going to do not get 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: this email. 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: I was going to do this topic next week because 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: the fourteenth of November is World Diabetes Day, okay, and 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: saying that the thirteenth November is World Kindness Day. So 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: rather than tell you right in the cuss, we should 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: tell everyone about Kindness Day so they can plan their 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: active kindness. Can you imagine if everyone did something lovely 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 2: for someone else and all of that positive energy all 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: on Monday? How fabulous would that be? 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely? But we should be doing this every day. 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: We should, But we need to remind people to do 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: a little bit more or of it, I think. But yes, 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: because next week I have a very special guest and 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: I'll fill you in on that one later. But I 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: thought I don't want to not cover diabetes, since it's 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: one of our major health conditions in our wonderful country 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: that affects Guess how many people worldwide? 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: Billions half the population, I'll say. 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: Well, probably because about a third of the population that 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: actually have pre diabetes don't know the habit, so the 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: numbers are much bigger than what we actually know. It's 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: estimated that four hundred and twenty two million people are 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 2: living with diabetes in the world, and that quadrupled from 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: the eighties. You know, but that number is just getting 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: bigger and bigger all the time. 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: And that's because we're getting fatter and fatter aren't well 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: in the Western world. 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: That's exactly right, because when you break it down, when 37 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: you look at what diabetes is, there are three different 38 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: main types. So diabetes is actually a conditioning which your 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: body doesn't make enough insulin to keep your blood sugar 40 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: levels steady. So insulin's our hormone that removes sugar or 41 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: glucose from your blood. When your blood sugar is too high, 42 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: it then puts it to work for energy for the cells. 43 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: But diabetes can be a bit misinterpreted that sometimes because 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: there's three different types. The first one is type one 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: diabetes so insulin dependent. That usually starts when somebody's younger 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: and quite often in childhood, and that's an autoimmune disease 47 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: where the body just doesn't produce insulin. 48 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: For itself at all. 49 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: So those people with type one rely on insulin and 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: daily insulin shots to combat that blood sugar and work 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: with that. Type two is the one that's caused when 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: the body can't make enough insulin the body, and it's 53 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: most commonly in individuals over forty five. And you said 54 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: it's often due to diet, sedimentary lifestyle, obesity, things like that, 55 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: and that attributes to ninety to ninety five percent of 56 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: all cases of diabetes is the type two and that 57 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: can be managed with diet, medication, sometimes insulin, but ninety 58 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: five percent, so only about five percent is type one 59 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: diabetes and the remainder gestational. So being a midwife, gestational 60 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: diabetes is something we'd come across from time to time, 61 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: and it occurs only in women during pregnancy. So while 62 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: there's a plus center in situ and most of the 63 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: time it goes away after the baby's born. So they 64 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: do watch babies blood sugars. Sometimes it can mean, you know, 65 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: they watch out because babies are generally larger, and it 66 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: does disappear by about you know, day four or five 67 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: after baby is born. But if you've had gestational diabetes, 68 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: you need to be careful because you are more at 69 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: risk of them developing type two later in life. 70 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: Right, So okay, So. 71 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, type ones mainly most common in young people. The 72 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: majority have type two. But type two is preventable and. 73 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: If you catch it in time or even after, you 74 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: can reverse it through strict diet. Can't you an exercise. 75 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: In the early stages, yes, because unfortunately, you know, diabetes 76 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: can be managed extremely well, but there's also people who 77 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: don't manage it well with all conditions. Really, so by 78 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: when we say preventing, what we want to do is 79 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: reduce those risk factors, get exercising, make some really good 80 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 2: choices about your diet. Our body does need processed sugar. 81 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: We've talked about that so many times, and by doing 82 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: those and decreasing your weight, you can actually, like you said, 83 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: tidy it up so that doesn't become a full blown 84 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: disease with a lot of risk factors behind it. Excuse me, 85 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: and yeah, take care of yourself. 86 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: Good sense, common sense. Really. Luke's got a great question 87 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: how do doctors know your pre diabetic? 88 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: Okay, that's usually by blood tests, So when they take 89 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: your blood test and they're looking for fasting sugar levels, 90 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: noticing those levels creeping up can also be other risk 91 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: factors like weight gain, fatty liver. There's a whole bunch 92 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: of high cholesterol. They all kind of go together in 93 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: some respects, so they're all the things you need to 94 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: tidy up, and they do. As you put on weight, 95 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: as you have a sedimentary life, or eat more garbage, 96 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: then you're going to be That's my reason for all of. 97 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: The about Yeah, all right, let's go to Jeff, who's 98 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: rung in from Glenne. Jeff, Hello, how are you good? 99 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: Even folks? And I've already explained to Tracy that I 100 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: was probably the first one in South Australia to have 101 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: cortisone tablets. And the reason I'm bringing it up is 102 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: every time I went near a doctor or a dermatologist 103 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: or whatever, I was always tested for sugar diabetes because 104 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: that was the big fear of cortisone pills when they 105 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: first came out. Anyway, one point not I got caught out. 106 00:06:54,720 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 3: Used to be a fantastic fruit drink establishment just around 107 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: the corner from where far Ai was originally, I presume 108 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: Matthew was. We'll remember the this fruit joint which was 109 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: drink twice, which was just around the corner, as I said, 110 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: from far Ai, and because a bit hungry, come from 111 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: somewhere else. And I had one of these drinks round 112 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: about an hour before I went to see the dermatologist. 113 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: And I won't use the expletely be used because you'd 114 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: have to dump me, but it may it was similar 115 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: to what the hell did you have to eat or 116 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: drink in the last half hour. I can't be he said, Gee, 117 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: you couldn't have done worse. He said, your test is 118 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: I thought you'd suddenly got type one, not type two, 119 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: which I was on the books, but just having a 120 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: light quantity or yeah I was. I wasn't a suicidal 121 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: type person in those days. I still aren't, but it 122 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: was something. I was always tested for sugar diabetes type two, 123 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: and if I ever showed slightly in their test, I'd 124 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: be told to change diet real quick. Yeah, and then 125 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: to go away. 126 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: That's a really good point you've brought up, Jeff, because 127 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: steroids can actually increase blood sugar levels in people with 128 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: all without diabetes. So if you've got diabetes, you're more 129 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: at risk of not only having higher sugar levels, but 130 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: also that unstable sugar levels a bit harder to control 131 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: and makes it much more difficult to manage that diabetes. 132 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, you need to keep a really close eye 133 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: on your levels whilst you're taking them. Sometimes obviously the 134 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: need for steroids outweighs the you know, if acute conditions 135 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: outweighs you know, the problems with the sugar levels, but 136 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: you do need to monitor that closely. So it's a 137 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 2: really good point that you've brought up. 138 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: When I came over and got on to a dermatode 139 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 3: just because I had to drop out of school, they 140 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: had even finishing first you hui, and the the place 141 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: that I are. I won't waste any more of your time, 142 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: all right. 143 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: Jeff, thank you, thanks for the call. 144 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: That's a great call. Good good reminder for people that 145 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: if you are taking steroids and you do have diabetes, 146 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: make sure you monitor those levels basically absolutely. 147 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: Jenny and allenby Garden sollo. 148 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 4: Oh, Matthew and Tracys why you go excellent? 149 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:22,479 Speaker 2: Thanks? 150 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: Oh good, well, no it's not me, it's a friend 151 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: of mine who's eighty two, because I'm seventy eight, so 152 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: it's not that older than not much older. And forty 153 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: five years ago he was diagnosed with typetoos and he 154 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 4: was the sort of guy, a really really nice guy 155 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 4: with the Scotsman and she'll be right, mate. And he 156 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: was on instulin. So what he used to do is 157 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 4: he was naughty. He was eating the wrong things and 158 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: drinking not not alcoholism. But I'd say, you can't have that, 159 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: so give himself a shot of insulince. She'll be right. 160 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: I say that's wrong, you can't do it like that. 161 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: And so now he's had a leg off and he's infendered. 162 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 4: My daughter and I went to see him and he 163 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 4: had this ulcerated leg for years and years and now 164 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: it started to go gang green. But do you know 165 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: he's amazing now he says, well, I was my fault. 166 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 4: I didn't do the right thing. And I just said, 167 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: look that he's so sad. It's just horrible. But he 168 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 4: thinks he's going to be fine. He's going to get 169 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 4: a prostheesiste. But you know, I said, you could have 170 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 4: prevented all this happening. He said, yes, I know, like 171 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: a naughty boy or something. I don't know. Real sorry 172 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: for people because I would hate to be diabetic. I 173 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 4: think it would be terrible. But we all have to 174 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 4: watch ourselves or we will be. 175 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: Very much so. And you know what, I think we 176 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: do have that sort of outlook in our health and 177 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: well being that whilst we're okay, it's obviously not too 178 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: much of a problem, but that creeps up on us too. 179 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: We do it with not just diabetes, a lot of 180 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: different conditions and we don't manage them well until it 181 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: is too late, and unfortunately, then it becomes a disease 182 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: management system where you know there's a pure for this 183 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: and that and everything else, but oh, I know, not 184 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: that's it. Yeah, And then you know they're not always 185 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: without their ramifications. Obviously they're necessary for a lot of people, 186 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: for a lot of conditions. But you know, if we 187 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: do that thirty minutes of exercise, get rid of the 188 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: process fats and process sugars moving. 189 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 190 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 2: Portion size is even one of our hugest problems. If 191 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: you go back to the sixties and compare portion sizes 192 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: to now, they're about half of what they used to be. 193 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: They're double now. I know what they were. 194 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 4: I know it's scarce. 195 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 5: He really is. 196 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 4: And you know we all are few sweet things, but 197 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: you just have to be strict and so you know, no, 198 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: I just have one or two and that's it. 199 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the perfect answer, that treat thing. 200 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 4: So you know you have to do it. 201 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: You do the body. If you do the right thing, 202 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: eighty nine of the time by the body and the 203 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: rest are considered treats. The body can generally cope quite well. 204 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: But if you turn that equation around, it will catch 205 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: up with you absolutely. 206 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: Jenny, thank you, thank you for the call. We'll have 207 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: to leave it. They're sixteen to nine on five double A. 208 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: Tracy Yingd is in and we are talking about diabetes tonight. 209 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: Any questions you have, and you can ask questions about 210 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: other health issues as well. Tracy's here to help. Eight 211 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: double two three, double oh double twelve minutes to nine 212 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: o'clock on five double A. Tracy Yeen is in from 213 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: the Green Dispensary at Sterling. Let's go to Father Joan, 214 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: who said last night she's gonna call in while Metallica 215 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: are playing at the Adelaide Oval. Father Joan, Oh, listen 216 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: to the noise. 217 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 6: Hello, it's roving noisy here. If I get too close 218 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 6: to the phone cuts there. It's very noisy. They're about 219 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 6: boy I see mostly sober is loud. 220 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can hear it. We can hear Metallica playing. 221 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 6: Oh well, I could go a little closer and you 222 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 6: could hear a bit more. I think you can hear 223 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 6: it up in town. 224 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure, but I mean, I've heard worse. 225 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 6: I don't mind. 226 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: Who's worse. 227 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 6: I don't know them all, but I've heard worse come 228 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 6: from the oval. Okay, all right, but no, it's a 229 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 6: very pleasant night. There's a beautiful moon out there that 230 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 6: you may not be seeing it, and it's still. 231 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: I think supermoon. Actually it's a Superman tonight. 232 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, so that was the music and nice walking around. 233 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 6: I'm picking up a few cans and bottles that will 234 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 6: give be copied for the next week. But anyway, I 235 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 6: don't want to take up Tracy's program or. 236 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: Your son father. 237 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 6: Thank you for sharing that so beautiful. Now I've got 238 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 6: a Christian for you, Tracy. This is a real Tracy question. 239 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 6: I have a friend who was also your friend, who 240 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 6: was saying no more, who has who's never cut his 241 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 6: pronouns in the last three or four months and he's 242 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 6: got an effected toe and a very fat foot, and 243 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 6: I keep saying him, you have to go to a doctor. 244 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 6: You have to go to a doctor. You could get 245 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 6: steps from this. What would you say to somebody like that? 246 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: So he cut out a little bit there, saying what 247 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: was a bit before he had the swollen like the fakoot. 248 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 6: He's got a ginormous dirty tone now, so he doesn't 249 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 6: cut I mean, you know, anything long, that sort of thing. 250 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 6: But he's got to spread around one toe and his 251 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 6: foot is really swollen. 252 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not good. 253 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 6: You've got to Yes, what would you suggest? 254 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 5: I've tried. 255 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 6: I gave him some deethole in the bold at least 256 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 6: was his feet, but not the answer. 257 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: No, he needs to see a doctor because if there 258 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: is a risk of infection. He sounds like he's at 259 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: the point he would need antibiotics. So he definitely needs 260 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: to see his doctor. But sounding also like a couple 261 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: of really good trips to the pedetress would be in 262 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: check as well. 263 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 6: He's waiting for his age care assessment since December last year. Yeah, 264 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 6: comes through, he gets pedetary I'm sure he's listening and 265 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 6: he was going to ask you himself last time and 266 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 6: chickened out. So I'm hoping he's hearing what you said, 267 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 6: because you'll listen to you more than you'll listen to me. 268 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: At the very least. Go and see the doctor and 269 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: get assessed to see if you need antibiotics. That's really 270 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: important because that can at least stop the infection and 271 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: stop it progressing. So if you're going to wait for 272 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: that podietress, I would yeah very much be getting to 273 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: the doctor for just to see and eliminate or resolve 274 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 2: and infection. 275 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 6: You told me everything I want to hear, and you've 276 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 6: heard enough music, so thank you very very much. 277 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: In North Atalae who is within the shot obviously of 278 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: the concert there where she lives, and there it is, 279 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: we've heard it firsthand. Can it be managed diabetes, Well. 280 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah it can. And that's the thing. People can live 281 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: really well unhealthy in spite of their condition and in 282 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: many ways, like you said before, if it's at the 283 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 2: pre diabetes stage, they can probably make those changes and 284 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: resolve their risk or decrease their risks significantly. Moderate regular exercise, 285 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: so we're talking that thirty minutes a day. Weight loss 286 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 2: or weight control can help reduce the symptoms, but also 287 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: reduce the complications, which we'll talk about in a minute, 288 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: and you know, just better way to keep it under control. 289 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: The more the better manage you are, you decrease the 290 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: risk of having those secondary conditions or problems like what 291 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: Jenny talked about, with things like you know, if it's 292 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 2: not managed well, leads to things like your diabetic retinopathy, 293 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: So it can affect your sight and cause blindness, It 294 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: can harm your kidneys, it can affect your oral health. 295 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: But uncontrolled diabetes can also lead to heart disease and stroke. 296 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 2: It can also prevent your body from healing quickly and 297 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: being aware of serious the seriousness of an injury. Slow 298 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 2: healing wounds like those infections or ulcers that then that's 299 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: when they become big, especially if they're on the feet, 300 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: in the legs, furthest away from the heart, hardest to heal. 301 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 2: That infection's not treated properly, it can become too severe 302 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: and very damaging. But it can also spread to other 303 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: parts of the body and lead to amputation like Jenny 304 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: described in her call. Well, and then it's too late 305 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: because then you can't go back. 306 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, Meal planning, how complicated does it 307 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: have to. 308 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: Be do you know what, It doesn't have to be complicated. 309 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: Just avoid sugar, icepoeid. 310 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: Sugar and unhealthy fats. So there you big restrictions. And 311 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 2: like I said, portion control obviously is a major thing, 312 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: but it doesn't actually have to be difficult. You can 313 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: get I mean, we all need carbs, but they need 314 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: to be the right carbs, and they need to be proportionate. 315 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: You know. 316 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: They say, if you've got a plate, a quarter of 317 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 2: your plate should be protein, a quarter carb, and a 318 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: half being your veggies or salad. And that's a really 319 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: good portion control. It is more about the process sugars 320 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: and those unhealthy fats, things like your trans fats in 321 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: your donuts and your burgers and all of the cakes 322 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: and bikis and things like that. They're just not healthy 323 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: at all. So what you want to do, You know, 324 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: even if you're on a tight budget, you can eat healthy, 325 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: so watching that carb consumption. Fiber, eat fiber rich foods 326 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: that can help a long way. Your green veggies, fresh fruits, 327 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: lean meats, other healthy sources of protein. You know that 328 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: can be everything from some healthy white cheeses to tofu. 329 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: Your chicken turkey's are very lean meat, and those things 330 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 2: will help your body stay healthier. By increasing the protein 331 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: and decreasing the carb you can actually keep those sugar 332 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: levels a lot more stable. 333 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: Okay, that's all great advice. What about the risk level. 334 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: Knowing where you're at can obviously help you prepare or 335 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: avoid diabetes, and we've touched on this. 336 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: Well we can, like it is estimated that a third 337 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: of people with type two diabetes don't even know they 338 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: have That's quite a large number. And what's worse, if 339 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: you don't know if you have it, you can't make 340 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: the changes that then prevent getting that type two diabetes 341 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: or keeping yourself healthy and reducing your risk of complications. 342 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: So what you want to do is have your annual 343 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: blood tests. You know, once you hit a certain age. 344 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: We know that it's more common to develop type two 345 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: diabetes over the age of forty five. So have your 346 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: annual blood test, get your cholesterol checked, get your liver 347 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: function checked, get your fasting sugar level checked, and that 348 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 2: will flag whether something's you know, showing up to be 349 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 2: not quite right. 350 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so all these are very useful hints. Tracy, We're 351 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: going to take a break than news. Tracy Yen is here. 352 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: The Green Dispensary at Sterling. Dean makes the point Tracy, simple, 353 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: young and fresh, green strong beans control blood sugar level 354 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: see cheap, healthy, natural and organic and very good for diabetes. 355 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: Love it, yeah, love it? So what do they do? 356 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: They've obviously got some. 357 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: Property fibrus as well, so they can you know, they 358 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: feel you well. They have antioxidants, they have lots of 359 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: vitamins and minerals. They fill you up there, fibrous. They're 360 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: just all your edgies are healthy. But green beans are. 361 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: Great, terrific. All right, we'll take a break. News is 362 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: on the way here on five double a. More of 363 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: your calls to follow, Tracy ying Green Dispensary Sterling is here, 364 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: and Tracy, we've got a couple of text messages to read. 365 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: One we're talking diabetes. But people can bring up whatever 366 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: topics they like, of course, and if anyone wants any 367 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: general health advice on any issue, you're here to help them. 368 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: But Martin says evening Matthew and Tracy, Tracy, I'm sick 369 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: of hearing the same old bs rehealthy eating. We need 370 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: to stop making excuses for this self inflicted injury. Basically, 371 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: can'st our health system twenty seven billion dollars annually. It's 372 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: projected to rise to over forty three bill by twenty thirty. 373 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: Unlike the UK and other governments, Australia has not and 374 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: will not introduce a sugar tax. Obesity is the main 375 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: burden on our failed health system. We need a fat tax. 376 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: That is the only cure. What do you say? 377 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: Straight down the line? I like it, He's not wrong. 378 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: We do. 379 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: And you know, I think Jenny's cool talking about her friend. 380 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 2: People don't do stuff about their health until it's generally 381 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 2: too late. And you know, a lot of people come, oh, 382 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: I don't know how I got like this? Yeah, you do. 383 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: Your body gives you signs and symptoms, but you ignore them. 384 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: You don't change. We don't change our lifestyles or we 385 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: try to when it fails or things like that. You 386 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: have to look at the basic things that maintain human 387 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: health and life, and they are hydration. Still to this day, 388 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: people come to me, no, I don't drink enough order 389 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: And I could have five consults with that person and 390 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: they still say, no, I'm trying, but I can't. It's 391 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: not that hard. It's water. We're not making a drink 392 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 2: terps here, you know. But you know, hydration nutrition. Our 393 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 2: body needs vitamins and minerals. That is how every cell 394 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: in our body functions. So you put crap in, it 395 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: doesn't work well. You put the good stuff in, it 396 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: works beautifully. Then you've got you know, your sleep. That's 397 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: a huge thing for your health. Exercise. We need to move. 398 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 2: We weren't designed to be sediment. We need to keep moving. 399 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 2: It is not hard to walk for somewhere between, you know, 400 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: even fifteen minutes twice a day or you know, I 401 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: say to people, get up, walk around the block before 402 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: you're hop in your car to go to work, or 403 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: when you finish your day at work, walk around the 404 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: block and just give yourself that mental break but also 405 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: that physical break as well. It will wake you up. 406 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: You'll feel great. It doesn't have to be you know, 407 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: crazy strenuous stuff. It just needs to be moving. Yeah, 408 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: now those are your bases to Sunlight's the other one 409 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: and stress management. I think stress management is something we 410 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: get really wrong and we don't look after ourselves. We're 411 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: so good at looking after others, but not ourselves. We 412 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: need to learn how to come down. You know, you 413 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 2: can visit the stress, but you can't live there. You 414 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: have to bring yourself back down and whether you know, 415 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: some people like to meditate, Others like to walk in 416 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: the forest or in the park. Others like the beach. 417 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: Some people just like to you know, sit out and 418 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: look at the stars. Whatever works for you. Journaling, create 419 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: your own filing system for the stuff in your head, 420 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: because that's what's going to keep you saying. So all 421 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: of those things are your basics for human health and 422 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: well being, but most people get those things so wrong. 423 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: All right, Andrew says rediabetics, I'm trying to control mind 424 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: by diet. I use a blood testing monitor. I have 425 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: two quick questions. How high is a bad reading? And 426 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: is white rice bad for sugar levels? 427 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: Okay, the great question. So with the sugar reading, sugar 428 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: will peak after a meal, but it should come back 429 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 2: down again. So you want your sugars and particularly if 430 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: you do a fasting sugar test, to be under that 431 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: five point five mark. Depending on how well you're managed. 432 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: Do you have you know, type one diabetes? Are you 433 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 2: on medication? So some of that key is of you know, 434 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: all food will make our sugar level spike. Stress, does 435 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 2: medications do other things do, but it's how well it 436 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: comes down is the key. Excuse me now with the rices. 437 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: The rices are interesting because obviously brown rice because it's 438 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: fibrous nature, is going to be the best choice, has 439 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: more fiber, more nutrients, and more vitamins. And white rice 440 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: because the brand and the germ are intact. Wild rice 441 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: is a good one and it's a good low DII alternative. 442 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 2: Bas Marti has a lower g I than most other 443 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: white rices. Dounara is a really good white rice but 444 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 2: ALOGII long grain rice, and it's a good substitute for people. 445 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: But try and stick with your brown and your wild 446 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 2: because they'll give you a lot better outcomes. 447 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: Okay and portions okay, uh fay at windsor garden. 448 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 7: Yes, good evening for the price of you. My I've 449 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 7: I've got something I wish to share about this with 450 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 7: regards to diabetes, as I know you're talking about it. 451 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 7: My youngest sister she had diabetes some years ago, but 452 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 7: she managed to get away with hers with just I 453 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 7: think she was only just with diet a line and 454 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 7: she got rid of all the fairy stuff and things 455 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 7: like that that you shouldn't have. And I was on 456 00:27:53,480 --> 00:28:00,120 Speaker 7: we mentioned about gangerine, and I couldn't understand what it was, 457 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 7: wasn't it When I looked it up online? I thought, 458 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 7: my goshess, that's what diabetes does to you. I don't 459 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 7: want to know. I don't I don't want to have it. 460 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 7: And the other thing a couple of questions. You were 461 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 7: talking about sugar. Now, when the person goes into what's 462 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 7: called a hypo of some description like that, and to 463 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 7: get it, get them out of it. In fact, I 464 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 7: remember when I lived with a lady some years ago 465 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 7: in another suburb at a time many years ago, and 466 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 7: the border was a guy that we had and because 467 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 7: he had diabetes, and she had to make up something 468 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 7: to with sugar. I think it was just sugar and 469 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 7: water or something like that. Anyway, she had it and 470 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 7: gave it to him and it brought him around again. 471 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 7: To you know, you're not allowed to have sugar when 472 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 7: it comes to eating anything, and yet when it comes 473 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 7: to any fainting because of it, you have to have it. 474 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 7: So where do you stand with it? 475 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: Okay? So there's opposite ends to that. So some people 476 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: can have a hyper where their sugar goes really high 477 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: and they can become really unwell really quickly, or you 478 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: can have a hypo where the sugar level drops so 479 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: much and sometimes that can be you know, with diabetes, 480 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: particularly if you're being managed by insulin. If you don't 481 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: get to eat or don't eat enough, that can you know, 482 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: and you've had your medications, they can drop down quite 483 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: considerably and have a high pay. That's where you would 484 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: give something like a concentrated sugar to bring that up 485 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: really quickly. So you can buy little tubes of stuff 486 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: for people that now it's ready made, so you just 487 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: square it in the mouth, things like that. So, yes, 488 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: it's something that you're always have to be cautious of, 489 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: is a hypo glycemic incidents with people with diabetes, and 490 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: they can be fatal. So you want to manage that 491 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: really well. And that's a really good reminder fee for people. 492 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: You know, you don't take a diagnosis as oh, the 493 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: medication will fix me. It's so much more complicated than that. 494 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: You've got to make a really big effort to manage 495 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: that well and learn about your body and what triggers 496 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: your sugar levels to go up, what triggers them to 497 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: go down, and what you do need to do. But 498 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: certainly skipping meals and things is not a good one 499 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: for someone with diabetes. 500 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 7: No, that's for sure. And silo you've got to have 501 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 7: and then almost having meals on time, is it important? 502 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 7: Silot if you had your lunch, for example, at mid day, 503 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 7: for example, it's important to have that lunch at mid 504 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 7: day that every day, isn't it. 505 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: Well, it's important to eat, especially if you're certainly if 506 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: you're using insulin, you need to eat fairly regularly because 507 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: you can't administer insulin because you get short acting ones 508 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: and long acting ones, and if you administer them in 509 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: the morning and then don't get to eat for quite 510 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: some time, you are at risk of that level going 511 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: really low. So it is important to eat, and it's 512 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: important to make sure that you're getting the right things 513 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: because you can get crazy sugar highs and lows and 514 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: up and down, and having those unstable levels can be 515 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: just as detrimental to the body as having you know, 516 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: unmanaged anything. So you get the highs and low So 517 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: by having you know good amounts of protein that can 518 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: help keep the blood sugar a little bit more stable. 519 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: And yes, sometimes you know, smaller meals more often is 520 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: the way to go, but certainly regular meals is recommended. 521 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, and what about without insulin, Like what can happen there? 522 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 7: Is it worse without insulin than with what it is 523 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 7: with It's probably. 524 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: More dangerous and more it can be result with the insulent. 525 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: But if someone's on medication that manages their blood sugar 526 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: too and they don't eat, they're also at similar risks 527 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: of that. And that's what I say. That's the unstable 528 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: levels of high low high low that are going to 529 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: cause the problems for the body, and it's just really 530 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: hard to manage. 531 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, that's good to know that. I'll tell 532 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 7: you one my favorite, my favorite foods if ever I 533 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 7: had diabetes, and so far I haven't yet. Well, Chicko rolls. 534 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 7: I don't eat many of them, but you know, I 535 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 7: just had one once in a while. And I love 536 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 7: my sausages on toast for Brecca from But beyond that, 537 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 7: I guess those are two things you'd have to be 538 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 7: without if you had diabetes. 539 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: Well, I think certainly you put the Chico roll in context. 540 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: It was a treat food, and it is. The body 541 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: can cope with treat food. Oh okay, it just can't 542 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: cope with that as your staple. Diet. And two, you know, 543 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: with your sausages, there's ways and means to do that. 544 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: Get better quality sausages from you know, you take a 545 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: trip down to Econnom Meats and buy some decent sausages 546 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: that aren't full of fat and you know, crappy ingredients. 547 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: The good quality one should have actually good quality meat 548 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: in them, so they're probably a better option to pick then. 549 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 2: You know, then perhaps a cheaper supermarket well just a 550 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 2: cheaper sort of sausage substitute, I'll call it. And that's 551 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: just it picking the best, best quality that you can 552 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: find and having you know less of her in moderations. 553 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 7: Oh, it's worth knowing about. Oh, thank you very much, 554 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 7: Thank you very much for having me. 555 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: Good on faith. It's always welcome. You know that. Seventeen 556 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: past nine on five double a Paul, hang on there 557 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: will be with you right after this. We're just talking 558 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: about that trade seat during the break we were. 559 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: And seafood is actually really good for diabetes because it's 560 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 2: rich in protein healthy fats like your amiga threes, which 561 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: support your heart health, but it can also help with 562 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 2: blood sugar management. Seafood actually provides a type of protein 563 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: which slows digestion. It can prevent those blood sugar spikes 564 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 2: after meals. 565 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: So about that, go your harders with seafood. Paula Bellaclava, Hello, Paul, 566 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: how are you? 567 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 5: Could you put it up a little bit? 568 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: Peas put what up? 569 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? I can hear you. 570 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 4: There. 571 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 5: By natural Yeah, you can buy two keyls of sugar 572 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 5: and big bags well only a few dollars, you know, 573 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 5: like whether it's lollies or cakes or biscuits or much chocolates, 574 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 5: and that it's the sugar that people like and it 575 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 5: ends up giving people replucting all this, so it's simple. 576 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 5: I mean they have horses, I think molasses. You can 577 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 5: get molasses in the whole shot. But yeah, get honey 578 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 5: and support the honey honey producers in Australia. But this 579 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 5: honey is set of sugar and that's all you're gonna do. 580 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: All right, there we go. 581 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 2: I agree. Honey is a much healthier form of sugar. 582 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: It's been around for centuries and centuries and centuries. 583 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: Can too much be bad? 584 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, like anything, it still is a sugar moderation. But 585 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: honey is much more a more natural sugar for the 586 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: body than a procession. 587 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: Okay, what if you switch to raw sugar. That's better, 588 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: isn't it? 589 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 2: Or not still sugar? 590 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, but it's better like it's not as bleached. Yeah. 591 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: Is that the only difference? 592 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent. I put them all in 593 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 2: the same bars. 594 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm afraid, all right, Okay, avoid. 595 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 2: There all is something that the body really doesn't Yeah. 596 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's for sure. When I buy coffee black, 597 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: just the you go herbs and other supplements for blood sugar. Now, 598 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: what would you recommend what's out there? 599 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 2: Look, I always go straight first and look at somebody 600 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: and work out whether or not there is a nutritional deficiency, 601 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: because that is going to often make a very big difference. 602 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 2: There are so many deficiencies that are linked to diabetes 603 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: and altered blood sugar levels, and these include things like magnesium, 604 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 2: so you can often get an unstable blood sugar level 605 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: if you low in magnesium. Chromium's the big one most 606 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: people know. If you're low in chromium, you can end 607 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 2: up with raised sugar, raised insulin, impaired glucose intolerance. Potassium 608 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: you can get a fluctuating blood sugar level if you low. 609 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: Manganese can affect your glucose tolerance and diabetes. If you 610 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: low biton or vitamin HAT converts food into energy, so 611 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 2: we need those to not store poor sugars and vitamin D. 612 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 2: Vitamin D may also regulate glucose home stasis by stimulating 613 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 2: insulin release from pancreatic B cells. So therefore, correcting a 614 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: vitamin D deficiency might improve your blood glucose control, and 615 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 2: it also has beneficial effects for complications of type two diabetes. 616 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 2: So that's where I would start first, because looking at that, 617 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 2: there's some really common deficiencies risking there, being your magnesium, 618 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 2: your vitamin D, even chromiums a bit unfortunately of long 619 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 2: term stress, a bit of a victim. So let's talk 620 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 2: about those first and get them right. Because you fix 621 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 2: those and get cells working the way they're meant to be, 622 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 2: you're going to have better up there. But there's some 623 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 2: great herbs that I do use, and probably one of 624 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: my favorites at the moment is berberine, and that's a 625 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 2: compound found in several plants shown to lower blood sugar levels. 626 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 2: It can help that mid drift weight, improve insulin sensitivity, 627 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: and I have in some cases even used it for 628 00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: people who have diabetes on medication when they're sugar levels 629 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 2: still aren't stabilizing, so and by doing that you can 630 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 2: actually help reduce risk of complications by helping to stabilize 631 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: that sugar level. So I love that things like lapoic acid, 632 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 2: and you often hear Gerald quickly talking about that with 633 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 2: peripheral neuropathy. Well, one peripheral neuropathy can be linked to 634 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 2: diabetes and sugar poorly managed sugar levels, but la poet 635 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: acid also normalizes how the body metabolizes carbohydrates and glucose, 636 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: so really positive. There's Gymnema silvestre, which is a great 637 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 2: avdic herb that balances blood sugar. Turmeric and slightly lower 638 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: blood sugar levels. Fenagreek is used for diabetes and has 639 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 2: a really positive effect on glycemic control. You've got your 640 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 2: bitter melon that's really good for managing the sugar levels 641 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 2: as well. Cinnamon may help support blood sugar management by 642 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 2: what that does increases the insulin sensitivity, decreases the blood 643 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 2: sugars after eating, and can help reduce the risk of 644 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 2: diabetes related complications. One of my favorites olive leaf. We 645 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 2: know olive leaf is really protective to the heart, but 646 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 2: the antioxidants in olive leaves can help lower your blood 647 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: sugar and help stabilize it to maintain healthy levels. So 648 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 2: that's another one that's really well tolerated. Alo Vera once 649 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 2: again one of my favorite substances used in clinic. In 650 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: a couple of clinical trials, researchers found that participants who 651 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 2: took alo over six weeks had lower fasting blood sugar levels. 652 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: How about that. 653 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 2: And it's great for liver, great for gastrointestinal health. So yeah, 654 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: certainly things to consider. Obviously this is general advice, and 655 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 2: you wouldn't want to be taking these herbs if you 656 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: are on and met blood thinners like warfarin, But certainly 657 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 2: give us a call and have the chat and let's 658 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 2: work out your individual story and what can potentially help 659 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 2: you with you know, managing that. 660 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: So if people want to find you and have a chat. 661 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: Green dispensary at Sterling is where you are. 662 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 2: I am now, so on Wednesdays between nine and three 663 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 2: a green dispensary Sterling, So if anyone remembers where the 664 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 2: old one was prior to that fire, just across the road, 665 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 2: so that's the little temporary shop while then you get rebuilt. 666 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: Have they started. 667 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been some activity there so that's really positive. 668 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 2: And I think it's going to be a beautiful shopping 669 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: center when it's finished. Beautiful and obviously be moving back, 670 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: but get quite easy to find. So if anyone knows 671 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: where you know the red Cacaos and stuff, you'll know 672 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: where Green Dispensary is. Yep, on the main street, just 673 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 2: almost opposite near those pedestrian lights. So Green Dispense th 674 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: Sterling and if you can't get in, give us a 675 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 2: call on eight double three nine one three four seven. 676 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: Fantastic Tracy, great seeing you today, Thanks for having me. 677 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: Look forward to to Channing next week. Dodger, all the 678 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: Metallica fans when you're out there on the way home. 679 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, get out now before they do. 680 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, fifty thousand odd people almost done. 681 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 2: Pretty impressive, it is, isn't it. They're not my thing, 682 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 2: but I'm glad you know these bands get supported. 683 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they certainly are tonight. Good on your Tracy, 684 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: Thank you and Green Dispensary at Sterling nine twenty eight 685 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: on five double A