Speaker 1: From the Skying in Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 1: Thank you Cherry. You never know who's texting it, You
Speaker 1: never know. The lady is very well plugged in and
Speaker 1: aren't you done it? And we'll see you again on
Speaker 1: the telly next week. All right, we've got let's to
Speaker 1: talk about on tonight show. But let's start with what's
Speaker 1: unfollowing in Western Australia. Right now, north of Perth, there
Speaker 1: is a bush fire. Of course, the sun is still
Speaker 1: up and it's still a relatively warm day. This is
Speaker 1: at Wedge Island. Please keep your attention to everything that
Speaker 1: the DfES is telling you. It's north of Perth right now.
Speaker 1: Some people are being told it's too late to leave.
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on things. But strength and love to
Speaker 1: everyone who's fighting everything in Western Australia tonight. Which brings
Speaker 1: us to the overall issue of bush fires, because we've
Speaker 1: got a prediction today from the emergency services. In fact,
Speaker 1: imagine the bosses of the Rural Fire Service, Country Fire
Speaker 1: Association or other such groups around the country, and they've
Speaker 1: given us a picture about where they expect significant bushfires
Speaker 1: to be taking place this summer. Now, of course, anything
Speaker 1: can happen anywhere. But as you can have a look
Speaker 1: at the map, there significant issues around Victoria, the middle
Speaker 1: of the country and stretching from a little tip of
Speaker 1: South Australia into Western Australia. Now again, bushfires can happen
Speaker 1: anywhere at any time. This is not me saying there's
Speaker 1: a guarantry no bushfires anywhere else. But let's have a
Speaker 1: look here around the country and what their expectations are. Now.
Speaker 1: The area between Dubbo and Koba in New South Wales
Speaker 1: is the area that's hit in red. There the area
Speaker 1: to the west of Griffith. Now again, there are little towns,
Speaker 1: little cities in all of these places. I certainly hope
Speaker 1: that if something starts in so called deep bushland, they
Speaker 1: don't just let it run for weeks and weeks. Of course,
Speaker 1: that was part of the problem back in two thousand
Speaker 1: and nineteen, and again there's some suggestion that some of
Speaker 1: the conditions may be a bit closer to where we
Speaker 1: were in that summer rather than the one that we've
Speaker 1: just been through Victoria. That's the big issue that I
Speaker 1: want to focus on right now. Several areas, obviously basically
Speaker 1: the the western half of the state. Again, the areas
Speaker 1: around the border and south of Melbourne, that coastline area there.
Speaker 1: For some reason, they think these are the hot spots
Speaker 1: that might be coming because of what's happening in Western Victoria.
Speaker 1: That's why you have the areas of South Australia which
Speaker 1: are being illuminated right now. And again on the other
Speaker 1: side of the Bight. The fire is expected around that
Speaker 1: southern area in Western Australia and then a little bit
Speaker 1: further up the coast as for the Northern Territory now
Speaker 1: in and around Alice Springs, that's the most prominent city
Speaker 1: that is named. In all of these areas, you can
Speaker 1: see that huge areas are expected to have bushfires this summer.
Speaker 1: All of this means if you can protect yourself, protect yourself,
Speaker 1: do the work on the weekends to try to make
Speaker 1: sure that your joint is okay if you live in
Speaker 1: an area which is bushfire prone. I'm sorry to sound
Speaker 1: like a nag, but it is important how to think
Speaker 1: about the types of things that you may need to
Speaker 1: take and think about packing those things in a nice,
Speaker 1: easy accessible area that you'd be able to get out
Speaker 1: should you need to get out for whatever reason. The
Speaker 1: joy of these warnings is that. I hope that there
Speaker 1: are one hundred percent incorrect. I hope that none of
Speaker 1: this stuff happens, but if it does, we at least
Speaker 1: have some warning to begin the preparation. Australia is always
Speaker 1: a tinderbox, has been for as long as it has
Speaker 1: existed as both island and continent. However, there is some
Speaker 1: other news that is some better news in and around
Speaker 1: the summer bush fire picture, and that is this area
Speaker 1: here about rain. Now as you can see around the
Speaker 1: capital cities of Sidney, Melbourne, Brisbane, there is an expectation
Speaker 1: here that there is going to be a little more
Speaker 1: rain than you would normally get between the period of
Speaker 1: December and February. Does that mean bet the house on it, know,
Speaker 1: but it does mean that those conditions are why we're
Speaker 1: not talking about areas very specifically close to Sydney and Brisbane,
Speaker 1: a little bit there again to the south and the
Speaker 1: southeast of Melbourne. But as always we pay attention to
Speaker 1: the things that matter most, and that is of course
Speaker 1: our families, which is always more important than property. But
Speaker 1: if you get the chance to protect your property, here
Speaker 1: is your fore warning. Today was a bad day for democracy.
Speaker 1: I know you've heard plenty of times about the guillotining
Speaker 1: of things that took place in the Senate. But the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister, trying to clear the decks for an election,
Speaker 1: did a dirty deal with the Greens, and this meant
Speaker 1: that dozens and dozens of pieces of legislation were not
Speaker 1: even debated. They were simply voted upon, vote after vote
Speaker 1: after vote after vote after vote, and because he did
Speaker 1: the dirty deal with the Greens, no opposition voice was heard.
Speaker 1: A lot of this stuff is rats and mice. A
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff is stuff that they're going to
Speaker 1: pump up as being bigger than it actually is. But appropriately,
Speaker 1: those who are sent to the House of Review, those
Speaker 1: that have the position on the cross bench, they see
Speaker 1: this for what it is, which is the government simply
Speaker 1: pushing debate to one side that is never a good thing,
Speaker 1: and just ramming through a list of things that they
Speaker 1: will talk about between now and the.
Speaker 2: Election, all to hide poor legislation.
Speaker 3: Whistler's many through as you can without any scrutiny.
Speaker 4: Talk about putting out the bins, taken out the rubbish.
Speaker 2: That's exactly how this whole bill has been treated by
Speaker 2: the major parties.
Speaker 1: I was not voted in this place to give you
Speaker 1: a great pass to put your forty bills in one day.
Speaker 1: But of course Sarah Hanson Young was saying that when
Speaker 1: there was a deal between the Liberal Party and the
Speaker 1: Labor Party. But she is of course part of the
Speaker 1: Greens that got the extreme majority of that stuff through.
Speaker 1: I hope the Jackie Lamby remembers that this is how
Speaker 1: they truly treat her in the parliament when if parliament
Speaker 1: comes back, but certainly she comes back in whatever the
Speaker 1: next version of the Parliament is after being elected at
Speaker 1: the last election, she's there for sixty years. I hope
Speaker 1: she remembers how she was treated by this government. This
Speaker 1: government may well have achieved an awful lot today, but
Speaker 1: what they in the process is not the first time
Speaker 1: It's happened. Many major parties, most versions of governments do this.
Speaker 1: It's a disgrace when they do it. The point of
Speaker 1: Parliament is on each and every issue to hear all sides.
Speaker 1: That is a long and laborious process, but that's why
Speaker 1: this stuff needs to be dealt with rather than just
Speaker 1: two minutes to midnight. You have to plan, you actually
Speaker 1: have to win or lose things on their merits. But
Speaker 1: this government has no interest in any of that. For
Speaker 1: his part, Dennis Shanahan, who of course you can see
Speaker 1: I think Monday Nights with our dear friend Peter Kriblin,
Speaker 1: he had plenty to say about this as well today
Speaker 1: about how kind of this arrangement works for the three
Speaker 1: major parts of Australian politics. Pardon me. Strategically, such an
Speaker 1: approach means Albaneze can start his re election campaign effectively
Speaker 1: from next week going into summer. Talking about a new
Speaker 1: agenda for Dutton. Senate blockage and a visit of sleepless
Speaker 1: senators is add into a public view of government that's
Speaker 1: in disarray and lacking direction. And for Adam Banta used
Speaker 1: the Green's numbers and the Senate is an opportunity to
Speaker 1: try and draw out some victory out of compromise with
Speaker 1: Labor on some small points and not being left to
Speaker 1: look irrelevant because they can't bring themselves to actually vote
Speaker 1: against Labor. All true and one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: he should always read him in the os and pay
Speaker 1: attention to him when he pops up here on Sky News.
Speaker 1: We also got a bit of an indication that if
Speaker 1: the Parliament does not return and my expectation is when
Speaker 1: you are clearing the decks like this, when the valedictory
Speaker 1: speeches have taken place, that at the very least there
Speaker 1: is a better than a likely chance of Parliament not returning.
Speaker 1: I know Philip Coury was talking with Steve Price a
Speaker 1: bit earlier, and as I've told you before, I bet
Speaker 1: the House on much of his analysis. He thinks they
Speaker 1: might come back for a couple of weeks in February,
Speaker 1: but not a March budget, instead a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: to maybe set up a wedge in the lead up
Speaker 1: to an election, which may well end up being more
Speaker 1: like March rather than April or May, which is the
Speaker 1: latest that can possibly be well. Today we saw a
Speaker 1: Prime Minister trying to look confident, with ministers yawning behind him,
Speaker 1: and Peter Dutton knowing that the wind is currently at
Speaker 1: his back. Now, as I've said multiple times, you would
Speaker 1: prefer to be in the position of Peter Dutton right
Speaker 1: now according to the poles where they are currently leading.
Speaker 1: They're leading on the issues that matter, they're leading on
Speaker 1: the perception of right track wrong track. But of course
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister thinks that more albow solves every problem.
Speaker 1: James Campbell, writing about the opinion poll, I went through
Speaker 1: some detail last night about where the country does not
Speaker 1: think that the government has the right priorities and now
Speaker 1: a very slim but still majority of people think Dutton
Speaker 1: is ready to govern. He talks about the red Bridge
Speaker 1: pole and the red Bridge pole of public opinion also
Speaker 1: found that almost half of all voters think the country
Speaker 1: said it in the wrong direction, compared to lesson a
Speaker 1: third who think it's headed in the right direction. The
Speaker 1: worrying picture of voter sentiment after two and a half
Speaker 1: years of albow time shows the people most alienated from
Speaker 1: the government are not bosses but Labour's traditional blue collar base,
Speaker 1: the same types of people who earlier this month fled
Speaker 1: from the Democrats to Donald Trump. Now, as always when
Speaker 1: there are these opinion polls, I also like to try
Speaker 1: to show you some of the comments which the polsters
Speaker 1: receive from the people who are telling us which way
Speaker 1: they may think about voting or are considering voting going
Speaker 1: into a federal election. The reading is not good for
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister. Again. A bunch of people, including Stewart,
Speaker 1: who says shock new poll. I've been expecting this one
Speaker 1: from the day he took office, John President Clinton said
Speaker 1: it's about the economy. Stupid, Well it was his staff
Speaker 1: at the point. Alboys never understood that and spent too
Speaker 1: much time and too much of his mayor mandate on
Speaker 1: pet projects that no one cares about, for example, four
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars On the voice, an anonymous
Speaker 1: person says that or somebody who wanted to remain anonymous,
Speaker 1: that people have had enough of the costly, woke agenda
Speaker 1: and that adds no value to society, and seek a
Speaker 1: return of governance for the majority. No surprise, Bree says,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt if Alberinezi and his government we're given
Speaker 1: another term, things would be far worse than the damage
Speaker 1: that they have already go created. Romwin, get rid of
Speaker 1: this rotten work government who is so out of touch
Speaker 1: with the people. Bring on Dunton as quickly as we can. Well,
Speaker 1: an election has to play out before then, I've told
Speaker 1: you before. Unless we start to see data that the
Speaker 1: Teals are going to be swept away, we're probably dealing
Speaker 1: with a minority labor government, as frustrating as that could be,
Speaker 1: because we'd all love to see the back of this
Speaker 1: terrible government for all the reasons we have articulated on
Speaker 1: this show for well before they became the government, and
Speaker 1: certainly have been proven right every day since. And we've
Speaker 1: got to see a little bit of a taste of
Speaker 1: some of the messaging, some of the attack lines which
Speaker 1: are going to be rolled out by both of these leaders.
Speaker 1: First Anthony Abernezi. You get ready for him to say
Speaker 1: a version of this a thousand times between now and
Speaker 1: when you vote. We're getting things done.
Speaker 5: They're just getting anger out, as we just saw during
Speaker 5: the last questions. Right, we're acting responsibly, they're acting recklessly.
Speaker 5: We're cutting the cost of living. They're cutting Manicare, pensions
Speaker 5: and housing. That's what they want to do. We're fighting
Speaker 5: for Australians to earn more and keep more of what
Speaker 5: they earn. They want people to work longer for less.
Speaker 5: We're fighting inflation. They're fighting amongst themselves.
Speaker 1: You know how that is not true, you know, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're focused on cost of living. Their government their term,
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars taken off ten million workers. They've turned
Speaker 1: around and spent billions of dollars off budget so they
Speaker 1: don't have to account for it in a budget, which
Speaker 1: is in deficit right now, and the expectations are remember
Speaker 1: under this government, their forecast into the future is deficits
Speaker 1: every year between now in the twenty sixties, and of
Speaker 1: course when it comes to cost of living. We know
Speaker 1: that they talk a certain talk, but the walk that
Speaker 1: Australia has had to go on has been painful. It's
Speaker 1: been three Christmases in a row now where people have
Speaker 1: had to tighten their belts. There is nothing left but
Speaker 1: we said that last year, which means that we have
Speaker 1: to find something else to pull back on, and people, frankly,
Speaker 1: they're cutting down to the bone marrow in too many cases.
Speaker 1: Three million people, three million people, this close to homelessness.
Speaker 1: They can say whatever they want. Their political operation will
Speaker 1: try to pretend that up is down, that left is right,
Speaker 1: that these are not the drawers you're looking for, all
Speaker 1: of that Jedimintrix stuff. What they'll be up against is
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton and Peter Dutton who can remain relentless on
Speaker 1: a message that I think is closer to reality. We'll
Speaker 1: see how it plays out at the election.
Speaker 6: The Australian people cannot believe how incompetent and weak your
Speaker 6: government has been over the last two and a half years,
Speaker 6: your government wasted four hundred and fifty million dollars on
Speaker 6: the voice and divided our country, and on economic and
Speaker 6: energy policies, you've done nothing but drive up the prices
Speaker 6: of everything.
Speaker 1: Prime Minister, why not call.
Speaker 6: An election now to put Australians out of their misery
Speaker 6: and allow competent coalition government to get our country back
Speaker 6: on track.
Speaker 1: Just look at the body language. Who looks like they're
Speaker 1: winning versus who's the one who has to tell themselves
Speaker 1: that they're winning. Your choice comes sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1: And just like everyone, I want to talk about power
Speaker 1: crisis because feeding him Remember the promise, This was the
Speaker 1: problems before the last election. It was garbage then and
Speaker 1: it's bs now.
Speaker 5: Two hundred and seventy five dollars, two hundred and seventy
Speaker 5: five dollars, two hundred and seventy five dollars, two hundred
Speaker 5: and seventy five dollars, two hundred and seventy five, two
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy five, two hundred and seventy five, two
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy five dollars.
Speaker 1: And Remember that that promise was apparently one that didn't
Speaker 1: apply anymore because according to the Treasurer, that was based
Speaker 1: off old modeling, and there was a war in Ukraine,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that it had actually started before this
Speaker 1: government came to power.
Speaker 7: The number you're referring to was a forecast in twenty
Speaker 7: one about an outcome in twenty five. We're providing energy
Speaker 7: bill relief in the here and now. We did in
Speaker 7: the last budget, we are again in the next budget,
Speaker 7: but there'll be more relief for more people in this well.
Speaker 1: As always, I'm in the front road to see my
Speaker 1: dear friend Laura Jays each and every morning nine o'clock
Speaker 1: astrated Eastern daylight time, and she absolutely ran rings around
Speaker 1: Chris Bowen. Now this bloke thinks he's going to be
Speaker 1: the Prime minister one day. He thinks, oh, I can
Speaker 1: pull the New South Wales right behind him. Remember this
Speaker 1: is the blog who wanted to run for the Labor
Speaker 1: leadership standing in front of the weatherboard house. Thirty six
Speaker 1: hours later he had withdrawn because he didn't have a chance.
Speaker 1: But he thinks his chance is coming and he thinks
Speaker 1: the way to get there is by just lying to
Speaker 1: you about the energy transition that this country is currently in.
Speaker 1: It is hundreds of billions of dollars that need to
Speaker 1: be spent on infrastructure that fingers crossed will have enough
Speaker 1: technology firming it be it gas or coal or batteries
Speaker 1: to mean that we don't have scenarios like we've seen
Speaker 1: this week where people are being told, oh, don't use
Speaker 1: your washing machine at night, please don't, don't don't turn
Speaker 1: up your re conditioner because the grid won't cop it well. Today,
Speaker 1: he was asked a pretty direct question by Laura about
Speaker 1: do you stand by the promise of two hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy five dollars?
Speaker 7: Will you commit here and now to bringing down power prices?
Speaker 5: When will they come down and how well?
Speaker 8: As I said, we're not walking away from our commitments
Speaker 8: and plans to bring in more innewable energy, which is
Speaker 8: the cheapest form of energy.
Speaker 1: So who do you believe the Snake charmer in, Jim
Speaker 1: Charmers or Blackout Bower because one of them is lying
Speaker 1: to you. It's either still the policy or the modeling
Speaker 1: has completely changed, which means the policy doesn't count anymore.
Speaker 1: He was asked about it in question time When.
Speaker 9: Will the minister finally be straight with the Australian and
Speaker 9: people and EMIT labors.
Speaker 6: Two hundred and seventy five dollars bill cup promise has
Speaker 6: been broken.
Speaker 1: And of course he didn't answer the question, but he
Speaker 1: told the biggest lie I have seen in question time
Speaker 1: in a very long time. This is what he said.
Speaker 8: That the inflation figure is released by the ABS this
Speaker 8: week thirty five percent reduction and energy prices the biggest
Speaker 8: fall and energy prices ever recorded in Australian history.
Speaker 1: But as you know, it's complete garbage. It's not true.
Speaker 1: The cost of electricity has not fallen. The government is
Speaker 1: spending billions of dollars to pay the power companies to
Speaker 1: reduce the bill by twenty five dollars a month. The
Speaker 1: collective result of that across the country is that they
Speaker 1: are able to go and have inflation numbers that say
Speaker 1: power prices are remarkably fallen, but they haven't. And remember,
Speaker 1: unlike the two hundred and seventy five dollar promise, which
Speaker 1: by the way, was not a one off, it was
Speaker 1: a change to the system that would mean a permanent
Speaker 1: reduction in the bill you had in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: The BILLI you had in twenty twenty two minus two
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five dollars by next year and that'd
Speaker 1: be the new base. But as you know, that has
Speaker 1: not been achieved. In fact, your power prices are up
Speaker 1: by almost double or quadruple depending on where you are.
Speaker 1: And remember the second they stop bribing the power companies,
Speaker 1: the bill goes back up, meaning not only does the
Speaker 1: cost of electricity start to actually be passed on in
Speaker 1: its full amount to the customer, the impacts on inflation
Speaker 1: will be extraordinary. But because it's all about just squeaking
Speaker 1: over the line trying to tell people in an election
Speaker 1: that this is not the power bill that you receive
Speaker 1: the Jedi mind trick. But you and I are onto it.
Speaker 1: The Australian people are onto it. They made the promise
Speaker 1: how many times, how loudly, they will not have not
Speaker 1: and cannot deliver it. Instead, the reality is the exact opposite.
Speaker 1: Yet these people think that the collective voter is so
Speaker 1: stupid that they can be lied to by these people.
Speaker 1: For his part, Chris Ulman appeared also in our daytime
Speaker 1: coverage today at his spectacular documentary which is the Real
Speaker 1: Cost of Zero, currently now available on YouTube. It's at
Speaker 1: the top of the sky News YouTube page. Well, he
Speaker 1: had plenty to say today about the reality that you
Speaker 1: should always double check that it's raining. If Chris Bowen
Speaker 1: says it's raining, what.
Speaker 10: We'll see over the course of the next few years
Speaker 10: on the pathway that we're on, and they're determined to
Speaker 10: stay on this pathway, and it's not just the federal
Speaker 10: government's the state governments as well, is that the grid
Speaker 10: will become increasingly unreliable and electricity will becoming criticiingly more
Speaker 10: expensive because wind and solar generators cannot deliver power on demand.
Speaker 10: They cannot be an electricity system without relying on something.
Speaker 10: Now that's something at the moment is coal. In the future,
Speaker 10: that something will have to be gas, not just a
Speaker 10: little bit of gas, but fifteen gigawatts of gas. Now,
Speaker 10: I don't know if we have the graphic available, but
Speaker 10: if you look at what's happening in New South Wales
Speaker 10: right now, what you will see that sixty percent of
Speaker 10: the generation is coming from coal fired power. There's quite
Speaker 10: a bit of solar in the system, but look at
Speaker 10: what's happened with wind one percent.
Speaker 1: Why is it that wind.
Speaker 10: Is never responsible for the problems that we have in
Speaker 10: the system because of course it always gets a free pass,
Speaker 10: and as coal retires, more expensive sources will be called
Speaker 10: in in order to fill that gap.
Speaker 1: Facts matter, spin and vibes and all the other garbage.
Speaker 1: People don't fall for it. The reality is that power
Speaker 1: has gone through the roof as a result of this
Speaker 1: government choosing one technology over the other. That is just
Speaker 1: the reality. Please watch that documentary again. It's the top
Speaker 1: of our YouTube page. And speaking of documentaries, go to
Speaker 1: sky News dot com dot Au and check out that
Speaker 1: incredible one about cyclone Tracy. They're hitting it out of
Speaker 1: the park our Doto's team at the moment and I
Speaker 1: look forward to many more of them next year. Now,
Speaker 1: for a long time I've was a competition between the
Speaker 1: Queensland government and the Victorian government about which one was
Speaker 1: the worst in the country. Thankfully, the bad Labor government
Speaker 1: is flushed in Queensland, so now one is left standing
Speaker 1: and it is the Victorian government. The Victorian government first
Speaker 1: of Daniel andrews now of his protege just into Alan,
Speaker 1: is in a world of trouble, making decisions that make
Speaker 1: everything worse every day. The priorities are all over the
Speaker 1: shop of we make cool TikTok videos. Well, hopefully Victoria
Speaker 1: is at some point in time going to wake up
Speaker 1: to this mob. But let's give them a little end
Speaker 1: of year report card. The debt in Victoria is so
Speaker 1: big that with the help of this little graphic, I
Speaker 1: can show you that every Victorian man, woman or baby
Speaker 1: collectively owes twenty five thousand dollars in government debt. That
Speaker 1: is more than the federal government, where each and every
Speaker 1: Australian man, woman and baby twenty four thousand dollars. South
Speaker 1: Australia seventeen, New so Whals fifteen, Tasmania twelve, Queensland Tea
Speaker 1: nine repeat worst in the country twenty five thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for every one of its citizens. That's the story of
Speaker 1: the Allen government. Amen, there's the TRIPLEO system about police,
Speaker 1: fire or ambulance, the Triplo system, which remember thirty three
Speaker 1: people died before the last state election as a result
Speaker 1: of the failures in the Tripleo system. Oh, they said
Speaker 1: it's been fixed. Will last week the Tripleo system had
Speaker 1: dispatches using pen and paper. That's the Allen Labor government.
Speaker 1: At the Royal Melbourne Hospital, the age tells us today
Speaker 1: that they are slashing the number of junior doctors hours
Speaker 1: in the hospital because they can't pay for them. And
Speaker 1: then there's this little doozy, which I'm sure you have
Speaker 1: not heard anywhere else. It is the number of kids
Speaker 1: that need to be restrained because of what they are
Speaker 1: doing at school. The numbers are particularly frightening because the
Speaker 1: vast majority of this stuff is happening in primary schools.
Speaker 1: According to the age record high numbers of students being
Speaker 1: restrained or secluded at Victoria State Schools is now two
Speaker 1: seven hundred kids in the twoy twenty three figure. It
Speaker 1: represents a forty six percent increase on the previous year,
Speaker 1: when eighteen hundred and forty four students were restrained or
Speaker 1: put into some sort of seclusion. This according to data
Speaker 1: that has been publicly released by the Education Department since
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Let's not use words, Let's use the pretty
Speaker 1: pictures and the graphs to tell the story. Have a
Speaker 1: look at this on the left hand side, twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: the dip of twenty twenty when kids were at home
Speaker 1: not physically in school, and now in twenty and twenty three,
Speaker 1: primary school kids fourteen hundred and sixty six were restrained
Speaker 1: in the Victorian public education system four hundred and six
Speaker 1: in high school. What's going on with primary school kids
Speaker 1: because of aggression to other people? You can see it
Speaker 1: went down in the pandemic, it came straight back when
Speaker 1: school came back. It fell down last year and now
Speaker 1: it's up to fifteen hundred, fifteen hundred kids who needed
Speaker 1: to be restrained because of aggression towards other people at school?
Speaker 1: What about self harm? One hundred and twenty seven. One
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven kids had to be restrained because
Speaker 1: of what they may be doing to themselves. I hope
Speaker 1: they're so proud of what they've done to our kids.
Speaker 1: I hate everyone who made the decisions to keep our
Speaker 1: kids out of school for a couple of years Victoria
Speaker 1: the worst and two hundred and thirteen because they were
Speaker 1: going to damage property with a risk of hurting themselves
Speaker 1: or somebody else. But what does the Victorian premiere focus on?
Speaker 1: What is this more ondoing instead defending the rights of
Speaker 1: a murderer to have IVF in jail. Oh, of course
Speaker 1: this will be referred to as a very minor incident
Speaker 1: that nobody should do. How does this person have the
Speaker 1: right to that certain offenses must result in not having
Speaker 1: access to this system. We're not talking about a person
Speaker 1: who's in jail for three months or six or even
Speaker 1: a year. It's a person who's supposed to be in
Speaker 1: jail for longer than fifteen years because of a murder. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: The family of those who have been impacted forever because
Speaker 1: of her actions think that this is an outrage. Yet today,
Speaker 1: rather than saying, look, this shouldn't happen, I promise it
Speaker 1: will never happen again. This was the crap that the
Speaker 1: Victorian premier was serving up today. Remember this whenever the
Speaker 1: hell is a chance to vote out.
Speaker 4: There has been a program that has run since the
Speaker 4: nineteen eighties. Are Living with Mum's program that operates across
Speaker 4: Victoria's correctional system. It has been run obviously over that
Speaker 4: period times under liberal and labor governments, and it is
Speaker 4: a program that is supported within the operational budget of
Speaker 4: Corrections Victoria. So that is a program that's existing, a
Speaker 4: long standing program that is run throughout the correction system Victoria.
Speaker 1: Please please the education system, the prison system, youth crime
Speaker 1: housing debt. You've got to get rid of them. You
Speaker 1: absolutely have to get I get it about the Libs,
Speaker 1: and I know all the rest of it, but for
Speaker 1: please please get rid of them. Sadly, it'll be a
Speaker 1: little while before that happens. Now, there is one word
Speaker 1: that has been used an awful lot over the past
Speaker 1: couple of years. You've heard me say it, and here's
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of others saying.
Speaker 7: It, blaming walk politics and walkism and cancel culture.
Speaker 1: There's a military as walker. Everything walk turns to well.
Speaker 1: Kill Richards is of course the word man who you
Speaker 1: can see here quite regularly here on sky News. He
Speaker 1: wrote a great piece today about the word woke and
Speaker 1: what it actually means. It means snob and it's a
Speaker 1: very simple way of putting things, but it is absolutely
Speaker 1: the key to understanding most of the people who practice
Speaker 1: this stuff. Put this at the absolute heart and set
Speaker 1: of everything. The snobs. They are snobs. They look down
Speaker 1: on any and everyone who does not view the world
Speaker 1: exactly as they do. Well done, good articles skyews, dot
Speaker 1: com dot Au. Meantime, the social media band which will
Speaker 1: make its way through Parliament as part of the dirty
Speaker 1: deal with the Greens. The Coalition however, will also back
Speaker 1: it in but because there'll be no debate. You won't
Speaker 1: be hearing from anyone who's going to be crossing the
Speaker 1: floor now. Andrew Wilkie, the Independent, at some point in
Speaker 1: time supported this, but has magically turned around and said no,
Speaker 1: he's not going to support it. The reason he took
Speaker 1: to his teenage members of his family. So why did
Speaker 1: he come out and support it at all in the
Speaker 1: first place. And one more little thing about the great
Speaker 1: Man Donald Trump that is worth noticing. As you know,
Speaker 1: he has named virtually all but two. I think of
Speaker 1: the positions that he can name to form his cabinet,
Speaker 1: do the little dance. I love the dance. We love
Speaker 1: the dance. You can see all of those that range
Speaker 1: from controversy to slam dunk picks. We went to the
Speaker 1: New York Times because thankfully they had the little pictures
Speaker 1: to help. Those are the ones the Senate needs to
Speaker 1: vote on. The next are the ones that can just
Speaker 1: be appointed without a vote in the Senate. But there
Speaker 1: is an interesting little thing that I have to tell
Speaker 1: you about here. Donald Trump won the popular vote the
Speaker 1: Electric College. They got the majority in the Senate, and
Speaker 1: they won the majority in the House. However, the majority
Speaker 1: in the House looks like it is not going to
Speaker 1: be that big. In fact, it is going to be
Speaker 1: awf of thin. To quote the Big Boy from The
Speaker 1: Meaning of Life right YouTube video, Go and double check
Speaker 1: it out enough to do the mint. Now, many of
Speaker 1: the people that Donald Trump has appointed to his cabinet
Speaker 1: are currently sitting members of the House of Representatives, which
Speaker 1: means that there has to be special elections in many
Speaker 1: of the cases. Not in every case, but in many
Speaker 1: of the cases, there has to basically be a by election. Now,
Speaker 1: if you have a full fifted buggeral majority and you
Speaker 1: end up not replacing those people with Republicans, there is
Speaker 1: a statistical chance that at the end of all of
Speaker 1: those by elections, control of the House will go from
Speaker 1: Republican to Democrat.
Speaker 3: Goodness gracious, yes, the Republicans are going to control the
Speaker 3: House of Representatives. But if all the current results hauled up,
Speaker 3: we're looking at a record small majority after the Novembers
Speaker 3: in the last ninety years. You have to go all
Speaker 3: the way back since the Herbert Hoover administration to find
Speaker 3: and even smaller majority. After November elections. We're talking about
Speaker 3: the Republicans with two hundred and twenty seats. Democrats were
Speaker 3: two hundred fifteen at the current House results hold and
Speaker 3: keep in mind that this will drop lawer if the
Speaker 3: phonic Waltz or others like mac Gates leave the Congress.
Speaker 1: And that's the point. Numbers always matter. If the Democrats,
Speaker 1: of course end up in control, it would mean that
Speaker 1: clearly you don't get everything that you want. In fact,
Speaker 1: you have to negotiate everything, just like in Australia. The
Speaker 1: legislation starts in the House, it moves to the Senate
Speaker 1: and then it is signed off on or vetoed by
Speaker 1: the President. Clearly, if it's all of the one color,
Speaker 1: then basically you start out with an idea, you find
Speaker 1: a path, and you get it done. If one part
Speaker 1: of the Parliament isn't going to help you do anything,
Speaker 1: then it is a giant handbrake, one that may well
Speaker 1: be pulled potentially before even the twentieth of January. Will
Speaker 1: keep an eye on it for you because it is
Speaker 1: an insight into how effective the second Trump presidency is
Speaker 1: going to be. Quick break back with more loss to
Speaker 1: talk about tonight, including who do you think is the
Speaker 1: winner and loser of the week? Jump on the Facebook
Speaker 1: page in a second all right, let's get right into
Speaker 1: it now, Michael Kroger. Just a couple of days out
Speaker 1: from summer. Apparently it's quite cold this evening in Melbourne,
Speaker 1: judging by the puffer jacket and the reason we're in HD.
Speaker 1: Look at a million bucks. But she's got plenty more
Speaker 1: to say, is none of them? The wonderful Chritiy McSweeney
Speaker 1: from the pr Council in Candria, which is always just
Speaker 1: there to help Hi.
Speaker 9: So just here watching the Senate.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, look, I was going to do a Lydia
Speaker 1: Thorpe free zone when it comes to this. But what
Speaker 1: did you think about today where there was another way
Speaker 1: she injected herself into the storylines of the day.
Speaker 9: Christie, I was actually in the public gallery. I wanted
Speaker 9: to throw to meet a guest, a new visitor to
Speaker 9: Parliament House who hadn't been there before, who was confronted
Speaker 9: with the dulphin times of Lydia Thorpe yelling into the gallery.
Speaker 9: And I can tell you there were about one hundred
Speaker 9: school children and their teachers there who couldn't quite believe
Speaker 9: that they had taken these young people to the heart
Speaker 9: and soul of Australian democracy and we're confronted with that,
Speaker 9: and we're told that is one of our senators.
Speaker 1: It's disgraceful. Michael. I know in the past, every time
Speaker 1: I've tried to talk, you've said I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about it because it adds fuel to the fire.
Speaker 1: I will simply say this, why can't the Coalition make
Speaker 1: her behavior something that's so unacceptable that the government doesn't
Speaker 1: accept her vote? Because one of the reasons why we
Speaker 1: got the scenario that we did, well, look, you know,
Speaker 1: one minute to midnight, we'll give you a little bit
Speaker 1: of a penalty. It's because they had a mathematical way
Speaker 1: around her. Otherwise they need her vote. But the whole
Speaker 1: point is, as it was with Peter Slipper, as it
Speaker 1: was with Craig Thompson in the twenty ten to thirteen Parliament,
Speaker 1: why doesn't the Coalition say, all right, if you want
Speaker 1: better standards, Prime Minister right now, promise to never talk
Speaker 1: to her again, not negotiate with her, and don't seek
Speaker 1: her vote. That good mate.
Speaker 2: But of course that would elongate the story, wouldn't it.
Speaker 2: It'd make her the story for another week, another two weeks.
Speaker 2: Every time this and it were sitting the concentration would
Speaker 2: be on whether the government's accepting her vote or not,
Speaker 2: and we'd have to talk about it. In Albanie whould
Speaker 2: have to talk about it and would make Lydia Thorpe
Speaker 2: the story. I think she's been a disgrace to herself,
Speaker 2: to the Greens that she was formerly a member of
Speaker 2: for picking her in the first place. She's making it up,
Speaker 2: a fool of herself. And you know, people are sick
Speaker 2: of this tied ole three card trick that everyone's racist,
Speaker 2: everything's racist, everything's about our people. Colonials and the king
Speaker 2: people are tired of this. They think it's rubbish. They
Speaker 2: don't like her and they can't wait to get rid.
Speaker 1: Of her exactly. We'll see what happens. Elections have consequences,
Speaker 1: as we know, and we'll see what happens when it
Speaker 1: comes to that center. In the next of the while,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Chris Bowen today. I mean Christy, this bloke,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the protective guard that is the
Speaker 1: sort of Canberra media who's voted yes for the Voice
Speaker 1: and the rest of the country didn't all think that
Speaker 1: he's the worr for fighting climate change all the rest
Speaker 1: of it. For those of us outside of it. I
Speaker 1: know there's plenty of people in the real world and
Speaker 1: the Act forgive me for lobbing you in with everyone else. However,
Speaker 1: power bills have gone up, all right, we all know
Speaker 1: they've gone up. If they've ever so slightly come down,
Speaker 1: it's because of this artificial way. Yet he's standing in
Speaker 1: the Parliament pretending, oh, power prices have fallen by thirty
Speaker 1: five percent? Does he actually think people are that stupid?
Speaker 1: Because he can't be that stupid. He has to make
Speaker 1: a bet that the collective Australian is and I think
Speaker 1: that's a wrong bet.
Speaker 9: Christy Well, he began as a sensible economic policy member
Speaker 9: of Labour's right faction, which has some very sensible people
Speaker 9: in it. But of course he sank Bill Shorten with
Speaker 9: the Franklin credits in the Finance portfolio, and he may
Speaker 9: well sing Galbo in concert with the Prime Minister himself
Speaker 9: on digging in on this renewable energy. What has turned
Speaker 9: out to be fast power prices and the significant increases
Speaker 9: that Australians are facing have been blamed on the war
Speaker 9: in Ukraine. They've been blamed on COVID. I'm sure they're
Speaker 9: going to be blamed on Trump and his tariff regime
Speaker 9: anytime now. Their two hundred and seventy five dollars is
Speaker 9: based on economic modeling pre the twenty twenty two election.
Speaker 9: It hasn't been updated. There hasn't been any economic basis
Speaker 9: for how we're going to get power prices down in
Speaker 9: the cost of living crisis, which energy and utilities is
Speaker 9: a major contributor to people's household bills that are in
Speaker 9: a cost of living crisis and facing those issues well.
Speaker 1: But also, I mean again, Michael, it's not hard or
Speaker 1: it is not hard for people to be able to go.
Speaker 1: You made the promise of two seventy five. He gets
Speaker 1: confronted with it today again, seems to double down, seems
Speaker 1: to recommit himself again. What he said to Laura, Mate, sorry,
Speaker 1: I thought we're Chris Bowen is the you go, oh,
Speaker 1: Chris Bowe.
Speaker 2: Chris Bone is the gift that keeps on giving. And
Speaker 2: you mentioned Chris Human's thing before. If people haven't seen
Speaker 2: Chris Human's documentary, this is compulsory viewing. You've got to
Speaker 2: sit down for two hours, watch it twice. It's to
Speaker 2: watch it twice. There's so much packed in there. Get
Speaker 2: a notepad and make some notes which I'm about to
Speaker 2: read out some of Chris Newman's absolute pieces of gold
Speaker 2: Bowen Christy, don't forget in thirteen he helped sink He
Speaker 2: helped sink the rud government. He helped sink Shortens, he
Speaker 2: said in nineteen, and he might sink Albanisi. He would
Speaker 2: be the first politician in Australian history to sink his
Speaker 2: party on three occasions, which takes which takes some going.
Speaker 2: But I think the point is this mate, the wonderful
Speaker 2: working middle class in this country, as in America, it
Speaker 2: takes them a while to work things out, but sooner
Speaker 2: or later they work it out. Like the voice sounded
Speaker 2: great until they worked out what it meant. They seen,
Speaker 2: renewables are great until they've started to work out that, hey,
Speaker 2: if it's the cheapest form of energy, why my bills
Speaker 2: going up at twenty five hundred, one thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2: So if you watch Chrus Hilman's thing, here's a couple
Speaker 2: of his great stats, right, memorable stats from this documentary.
Speaker 2: He said twenty in the last twenty five years, oil
Speaker 2: gas coal has gone from eighty five percent of the
Speaker 2: world usage to eighty one in twenty five years. It's
Speaker 2: gone down four percent in the next twenty five. It's
Speaker 2: going down from eighty one to zero. Huh, really, eighty
Speaker 2: five to eighty one in the last twenty five, eighty
Speaker 2: one to zero in the next twenty five. Secondly, they
Speaker 2: had the end of this Environmentals from Queensland who said
Speaker 2: the public have got no idea what's coming. There's more
Speaker 2: than twenty thousand wind turbines coming to the east coast
Speaker 2: of Australia at Tasmania, South Australia in the next ten
Speaker 2: or so years, twenty thousand of them. The good news,
Speaker 2: Paul is there's not a single wind tower coming to
Speaker 2: a seatthild by the Greens or the Teals, which is
Speaker 2: great because I now live in adam Bansea because of redistribution,
Speaker 2: so they aren't going to many wind towers in South Era.
Speaker 2: That's the good news. But all you people in the country,
Speaker 2: rural Australia, there's twenty thousand of these monstrosities coming. Yulman
Speaker 2: also pointed out that reminded us that album even made
Speaker 2: that promise by the next election. The two seventy five
Speaker 2: deduction is coming by May next year, so that's good
Speaker 2: news for everybody whose bills have gone up five hundred
Speaker 2: one thousand. We've spent twenty five billion dollars on subsidizing
Speaker 2: renewables in the last ten years, twenty five billion. And
Speaker 2: finally he pointed out that battery are the most expensive
Speaker 2: form of energy. So when Bowen says, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: renewable is the cheapest, the working middle class, the silent
Speaker 2: majority have worked out this is all bulldast This is
Speaker 2: complete bull dust. It is the most expensive form when
Speaker 2: you have to use batteries, and people's lived experiences that
Speaker 2: their price have gone up if it's the cheapest, Chris,
Speaker 2: why haven't they gone down mate?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 9: And also can I make a point there as well,
Speaker 9: Chris Mins in New South Wales, Labor knows that New
Speaker 9: South Wales is going to run out of power on
Speaker 9: his what and he asked Origin to extend the life
Speaker 9: of the aroar and coal powered station for another two years.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 9: Origin didn't want to. So there are people in the
Speaker 9: Labor party who know, well the jig is up, and
Speaker 9: it's the premiers who don't want to be blame for
Speaker 9: mass blackouts.
Speaker 1: Well, and also I'm just having a look here too.
Speaker 1: At the national energy market, and they're film mix right
Speaker 1: where they talk about where everything comes from new sid
Speaker 1: Wells alone nine percent in wind farm, fifteen percent in solar.
Speaker 1: And I think Chris's point earlier tonight that I reemphasized
Speaker 1: that wind farms, which of course there's many, many and
Speaker 1: many many more to come. And remember the graphic that
Speaker 1: he showed about all of those ones that are coming
Speaker 1: down the coast. Again, the doco's up on our YouTube
Speaker 1: page right now, it's top you can watch it there
Speaker 1: for free. That it gets let off the hook so frequently,
Speaker 1: but also to the broader political issues here too, Christy,
Speaker 1: where you know Albo thinks more albow is going to
Speaker 1: solve the problem. I think that there's plenty of indices
Speaker 1: that say once they tune out of a prime minister,
Speaker 1: the last person they want to hear from is that person. Certainly,
Speaker 1: in the relentless lead up to and in an election,
Speaker 1: just thirty two percent of the country says that we
Speaker 1: are headed in the right track, that the right direction.
Speaker 1: Forty seven percent of people under the age of thirty
Speaker 1: four they were headed in the wrong direction. Fifty one
Speaker 1: percent of thirty nine to forty nine's forty five percent
Speaker 1: of fifty to sixty four's sixty five plus forty nine percent.
Speaker 1: Also worth noting two, does this sound like the realignment
Speaker 1: that was playing out in the United States? That may
Speaker 1: well play out here. When people under the age sorry,
Speaker 1: the highest qualification was high school or you left before
Speaker 1: the HC, fifty seven percent headed in the wrong direction,
Speaker 1: forty seven percent if it was year twelve, fifty two
Speaker 1: percent if it was a tafe or trade university degree.
Speaker 1: They're the ones who are a little undecided. They think
Speaker 1: it's forty percent versus thirty seven. The extreme majority of
Speaker 1: the Australian people do not like the direction the joint
Speaker 1: is heading. This bloke's going to go to an election
Speaker 1: saying please trust us, We're going to continue going down
Speaker 1: the yellow brick road. Well, we all remember who was
Speaker 1: actually behind the curtain once they got there.
Speaker 9: So it's interesting you said only thirty two percent of
Speaker 9: Australian Australia is in the heading and the right track,
Speaker 9: that's roughly the primary vote of Labor and the Liberal
Speaker 9: Party is only slightly higher. You did mention a number
Speaker 9: of other demographics that are unusual people under thirty four,
Speaker 9: But from all those demographics, they have to cobble together
Speaker 9: at least a forty percent. It depends what their relationship
Speaker 9: with the Greens turns out in a preference scenario at
Speaker 9: the election. It's turning out pretty well for them today
Speaker 9: in the Senate, I can tell you, but reality would
Speaker 9: say you need to cobble together somewhere between thirty five
Speaker 9: and forty percent to win a majority government or even
Speaker 9: to win a minority government with the grants. So very interesting.
Speaker 9: It matches up with the coalitions out of suburban strategy.
Speaker 9: There is a school of thought that we'll try and
Speaker 9: win back as many tail seats as we can, but
Speaker 9: largely forsake them to try and win marginal seats on
Speaker 9: the outskirts of the city. They need to hold the
Speaker 9: three out of metropolitan marginals in Victoria, two on the
Speaker 9: central coast, two in the Northern Territory. There's a pathway
Speaker 9: for the coalition, but there's a lot of marginal seats
Speaker 9: and most of them aren't in the inner city.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, interesting, pay attention to the Northern territory right. Firstly,
Speaker 1: Alea from Kiaro is doing a great job as the
Speaker 1: territory chief minister. But Solomon, which has moved before lingiari
Speaker 1: a little bit harder, but what happens there? But Michael,
Speaker 1: what about some of these suggestions I was reading in
Speaker 1: some one to day suggesting the Libs are trying to
Speaker 1: hammer to win four Victorian seats. How does your maps
Speaker 1: go towards the end of the year about either Labor
Speaker 1: minority or a Dutton minority.
Speaker 2: Well, I've been saying for weeks I think Peter Dutton's
Speaker 2: favorite to win the election. That I can count fifteen
Speaker 2: seats he's going to win, which puts him on seventy two,
Speaker 2: presuming he wins back the two seats that are held
Speaker 2: by Independence formerly our seats. So I think he's close
Speaker 2: to a majority at this point in time. You have
Speaker 2: to say, Peter Dutton's majority in his own right depends
Speaker 2: on Victoria, which is Chisholm, McEwen, Kuyong and Goldstein. Because
Speaker 2: I think he's going to win back Aston great candidate there, Mannychacello.
Speaker 2: But he's got those four seats, right, He's got those
Speaker 2: four seats which are fifty to fifty. If he wins
Speaker 2: them all, he wins in his own right. If he doesn't,
Speaker 2: he doesn't win in his own right. Now the Liberal
Speaker 2: Party brand in Victoria is not as strong as it
Speaker 2: used to be when we had A Costello, A Peacock,
Speaker 2: A Malcolm Fraser, Robert Menzies, Henry Bolty. Jeff Kennet said
Speaker 2: the brand is not as strong and so a lot
Speaker 2: depends on the performance of the state parliamentary Liberal Party
Speaker 2: quite frankly, because in nineteen ninety when Andrew Peacock I
Speaker 2: was president, then Peacock won nine seats in one night.
Speaker 2: We started with fifteen ended up with twenty four one
Speaker 2: night seats from lab almost won the election on the
Speaker 2: back of Victoria. That was on the back of a
Speaker 2: very strong performance by Kennett, Alan Brown, Alan Stockdale, the
Speaker 2: state Parlamentry Party boring it into the Cain Kernel government.
Speaker 2: That level of hatred of a labor government isn't as
Speaker 2: strong as it is as it was then. So even
Speaker 2: though people don't like Jasindra Allen and she's been hopeless,
Speaker 2: there isn't that people haven't got the baseball that's they
Speaker 2: had in nineteen ninety. So it depends very much in
Speaker 2: our state colleagues here, I love.
Speaker 1: When we get down to the detail, though dirty little
Speaker 1: details of politics. I love it in every way, shape
Speaker 1: or formant. Remember, when it comes to preferences, what you
Speaker 1: do with number two matters as much as what you
Speaker 1: do with number one. In nineteen when there was the
Speaker 1: preference discipline, the surprise election result, when everyone runs away,
Speaker 1: well we got our boat or a quick breakpack with
Speaker 1: more including who is the winner and loser of the week.
Speaker 1: I've got my saying, and I look forward to our
Speaker 1: panels in a moment. Let's go to some old classics
Speaker 1: before we get the winners and losers of the week. Christin
Speaker 1: McSweeney is here with Michael Kroger. Michael, the chairman of
Speaker 1: the ABC says they deserve more money. Okay, great, they're
Speaker 1: the only media organization who thinks they are pardon me,
Speaker 1: guaranteed a larger amount of money. Apologies for the cough everyone,
Speaker 1: But also he decided to really sort of say that
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan was a bit beneath people to listen to
Speaker 1: what's he on about?
Speaker 5: Mate?
Speaker 2: If you want to look when Kim Williams came in, right,
Speaker 2: he made some really good statements about the ABC, and
Speaker 2: people thought, maybe he's going to shake this place up.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's actually going to do what previous chairs had
Speaker 2: not been able to do in previous board members, including myself,
Speaker 2: and not been able to do. But then he gives
Speaker 2: this bizarre performance, totally bizarre performance where you know, if
Speaker 2: you're talking about sneering snobs, the sort of the Sydney
Speaker 2: arts upper class. He's horrified by this, Joe Rogan, who
Speaker 2: people listen to and is horrified by his power. It's appalling,
Speaker 2: he said. He you know, not that he ever listened
Speaker 2: to him, but need heard this. Millions and millions of
Speaker 2: people are listening to this Joe Rogan, and billions of
Speaker 2: people have watched his watched his podcasts back on YouTube,
Speaker 2: and fifty million people had watched Donald Trump's interview with him.
Speaker 2: He was horrified by this. This is the problem with
Speaker 2: the inner city Sydney ABC arts elites, right, they are
Speaker 2: completely out of touch with normal, ordinary working class people.
Speaker 2: And Kim, I'm afraid that was an absolute shocker at
Speaker 2: the Press Club. If you want to know why the
Speaker 2: incoming dut and government are not going to give you
Speaker 2: a cent more, your performance of the Press Club is
Speaker 2: evidence of why you're not going to get another crack
Speaker 2: of my friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, Christy, this idea we need more money
Speaker 1: to do what we do. Look, if you've got to
Speaker 1: guarantee billion dollars, that's certainly a guarantee of revenue that
Speaker 1: no other media organization has in the country. It's one
Speaker 1: of two public broadcasters. There are ways that you can
Speaker 1: reorientate what they do, but instead they want to do
Speaker 1: everything they've always done and more with the same If
Speaker 1: not more money.
Speaker 9: Well, maybe put programming on that people want to tune
Speaker 9: into and watch. From time to time, when my Malcolm
Speaker 9: Turnbull NBN fails, I have to watch from read Word television,
Speaker 9: and I have been caught catching snippets of shows like
Speaker 9: Spicks and SPACs and ABC Morning Radio and I can't
Speaker 9: even remember the weekly and various shows where a raft
Speaker 9: of IBC comedians appear or contractors contracted to the IBC
Speaker 9: so they can get away with saying they're not ABC employees.
Speaker 9: Consistently engaging in humor that is very much towards people
Speaker 9: who vote in a conservative way. So if the ABC
Speaker 9: doesn't like Joe Rogan, you don't like it, but you
Speaker 9: have to agree there's a market for that. And also
Speaker 9: Joe Rogan has done some pretty good things. Joe Rogan
Speaker 9: is the reason why young men have taken their fitness
Speaker 9: and their mental health seriously. Look, I don't agree with
Speaker 9: everything he says, but anybody who can harness young men
Speaker 9: and to get them to look at their mental health
Speaker 9: and their fitness and how those two things interact, and
Speaker 9: to get them to critically, critically think about issues. It's
Speaker 9: not all bad.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, a fundamental misunderstanding of what that
Speaker 1: offering is. Look, you know, I get it. I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of it, right, but it ain't church and it
Speaker 1: ain't something that every single word you agree with. But yeah,
Speaker 1: wondering out loud, Goodness, goodness, gracious, all right, winners and
Speaker 1: losers of the week, let's go for it, let's go
Speaker 1: bumper stickers? Though this time? Who is it? Michael?
Speaker 2: It was going to be you after the magnificent Our
Speaker 2: Town in ben Nigo and which I thought was just made.
Speaker 2: That was a stunning program. And look you driving that tram.
Speaker 2: I think that's a if people didn't watch it, that's
Speaker 2: a career for Paul coming up there when he leaves here. Finally,
Speaker 2: but then I saw Laura James this morning with Blackout Bowen,
Speaker 2: and I transferred from you to law But no, no, unfortunately, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: my friend, my friend, Simon Birmingham announced today that he's
Speaker 2: leaving the Senate after eight years. Simon has been a
Speaker 2: great servant of South Australia and the Liberal Party and
Speaker 2: I wish him all the best. He's had a great
Speaker 2: career as the loyal servant of this country and I
Speaker 2: wish him well. A loser the week, Penny Wong and
Speaker 2: burn the immigration minister Burke, I mean three and Giles
Speaker 2: pre so three thousand to Gaza and can't give a
Speaker 2: visit to a former Israeli minister.
Speaker 1: Excellent point. Christy. You'll have to text me your thoughts
Speaker 1: because while Michael was very kind, he took all of
Speaker 1: your time. Thank you guys, Love you guys. So you
Speaker 1: have a wonderful weekend we ever happened to be You
Speaker 1: have a great one too. We'll see on Sunday. Go
Speaker 1: Yankee s.