WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 28 November 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:05.120 From the Skying in Center. This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:09.319 Thank you Cherry. You never know who's texting it, You 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:11.639 never know. The lady is very well plugged in and 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:13.640 aren't you done it? And we'll see you again on 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:15.280 the telly next week. All right, we've got let's to 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:17.640 talk about on tonight show. But let's start with what's 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.480 unfollowing in Western Australia. Right now, north of Perth, there 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.239 is a bush fire. Of course, the sun is still 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.560 up and it's still a relatively warm day. This is 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.520 at Wedge Island. Please keep your attention to everything that 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.159 the DfES is telling you. It's north of Perth right now. 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:34.640 Some people are being told it's too late to leave. 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:36.519 Keep an eye on things. But strength and love to 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.840 everyone who's fighting everything in Western Australia tonight. Which brings 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.159 us to the overall issue of bush fires, because we've 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.280 got a prediction today from the emergency services. In fact, 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.920 imagine the bosses of the Rural Fire Service, Country Fire 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.840 Association or other such groups around the country, and they've 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.960 given us a picture about where they expect significant bushfires 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.520 to be taking place this summer. Now, of course, anything 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.240 can happen anywhere. But as you can have a look 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:05.160 at the map, there significant issues around Victoria, the middle 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.880 of the country and stretching from a little tip of 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:12.600 South Australia into Western Australia. Now again, bushfires can happen 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.240 anywhere at any time. This is not me saying there's 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:18.000 a guarantry no bushfires anywhere else. But let's have a 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:23.280 look here around the country and what their expectations are. Now. 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.320 The area between Dubbo and Koba in New South Wales 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.600 is the area that's hit in red. There the area 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.039 to the west of Griffith. Now again, there are little towns, 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:36.000 little cities in all of these places. I certainly hope 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.360 that if something starts in so called deep bushland, they 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.800 don't just let it run for weeks and weeks. Of course, 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.520 that was part of the problem back in two thousand 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:48.400 and nineteen, and again there's some suggestion that some of 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.440 the conditions may be a bit closer to where we 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.040 were in that summer rather than the one that we've 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.800 just been through Victoria. That's the big issue that I 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.800 want to focus on right now. Several areas, obviously basically 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:04.200 the the western half of the state. Again, the areas 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:10.079 around the border and south of Melbourne, that coastline area there. 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:12.920 For some reason, they think these are the hot spots 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.360 that might be coming because of what's happening in Western Victoria. 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:20.280 That's why you have the areas of South Australia which 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.880 are being illuminated right now. And again on the other 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.000 side of the Bight. The fire is expected around that 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.880 southern area in Western Australia and then a little bit 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.959 further up the coast as for the Northern Territory now 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.640 in and around Alice Springs, that's the most prominent city 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:38.720 that is named. In all of these areas, you can 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:43.320 see that huge areas are expected to have bushfires this summer. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.760 All of this means if you can protect yourself, protect yourself, 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.680 do the work on the weekends to try to make 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.799 sure that your joint is okay if you live in 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.400 an area which is bushfire prone. I'm sorry to sound 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.359 like a nag, but it is important how to think 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.240 about the types of things that you may need to 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:04.040 take and think about packing those things in a nice, 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.240 easy accessible area that you'd be able to get out 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.160 should you need to get out for whatever reason. The 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:11.960 joy of these warnings is that. I hope that there 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.840 are one hundred percent incorrect. I hope that none of 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.360 this stuff happens, but if it does, we at least 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:20.800 have some warning to begin the preparation. Australia is always 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.359 a tinderbox, has been for as long as it has 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:28.000 existed as both island and continent. However, there is some 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.480 other news that is some better news in and around 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.000 the summer bush fire picture, and that is this area 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:36.040 here about rain. Now as you can see around the 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.360 capital cities of Sidney, Melbourne, Brisbane, there is an expectation 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.480 here that there is going to be a little more 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.000 rain than you would normally get between the period of 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.920 December and February. Does that mean bet the house on it, know, 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.560 but it does mean that those conditions are why we're 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:56.440 not talking about areas very specifically close to Sydney and Brisbane, 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.000 a little bit there again to the south and the 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:03.000 southeast of Melbourne. But as always we pay attention to 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.840 the things that matter most, and that is of course 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.480 our families, which is always more important than property. But 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.800 if you get the chance to protect your property, here 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:14.800 is your fore warning. Today was a bad day for democracy. 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.960 I know you've heard plenty of times about the guillotining 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:18.599 of things that took place in the Senate. But the 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.520 Prime Minister, trying to clear the decks for an election, 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:24.920 did a dirty deal with the Greens, and this meant 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.680 that dozens and dozens of pieces of legislation were not 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.600 even debated. They were simply voted upon, vote after vote 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.880 after vote after vote after vote, and because he did 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:38.320 the dirty deal with the Greens, no opposition voice was heard. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.640 A lot of this stuff is rats and mice. A 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.120 lot of this stuff is stuff that they're going to 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.440 pump up as being bigger than it actually is. But appropriately, 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.719 those who are sent to the House of Review, those 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.640 that have the position on the cross bench, they see 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.760 this for what it is, which is the government simply 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.120 pushing debate to one side that is never a good thing, 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.440 and just ramming through a list of things that they 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:02.839 will talk about between now and the. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:06.640 Election, all to hide poor legislation. 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.599 Whistler's many through as you can without any scrutiny. 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:14.640 Talk about putting out the bins, taken out the rubbish. 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:19.240 That's exactly how this whole bill has been treated by 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:20.400 the major parties. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.520 I was not voted in this place to give you 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:27.240 a great pass to put your forty bills in one day. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.040 But of course Sarah Hanson Young was saying that when 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:32.600 there was a deal between the Liberal Party and the 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.200 Labor Party. But she is of course part of the 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.840 Greens that got the extreme majority of that stuff through. 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.680 I hope the Jackie Lamby remembers that this is how 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:44.679 they truly treat her in the parliament when if parliament 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.760 comes back, but certainly she comes back in whatever the 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.240 next version of the Parliament is after being elected at 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.160 the last election, she's there for sixty years. I hope 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.720 she remembers how she was treated by this government. This 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:59.520 government may well have achieved an awful lot today, but 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.800 what they in the process is not the first time 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:05.240 It's happened. Many major parties, most versions of governments do this. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:09.000 It's a disgrace when they do it. The point of 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:13.880 Parliament is on each and every issue to hear all sides. 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.320 That is a long and laborious process, but that's why 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.080 this stuff needs to be dealt with rather than just 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.560 two minutes to midnight. You have to plan, you actually 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.760 have to win or lose things on their merits. But 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.200 this government has no interest in any of that. For 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.360 his part, Dennis Shanahan, who of course you can see 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.600 I think Monday Nights with our dear friend Peter Kriblin, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:35.840 he had plenty to say about this as well today 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.560 about how kind of this arrangement works for the three 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:44.200 major parts of Australian politics. Pardon me. Strategically, such an 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.280 approach means Albaneze can start his re election campaign effectively 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.200 from next week going into summer. Talking about a new 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.600 agenda for Dutton. Senate blockage and a visit of sleepless 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.160 senators is add into a public view of government that's 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.360 in disarray and lacking direction. And for Adam Banta used 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.359 the Green's numbers and the Senate is an opportunity to 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.200 try and draw out some victory out of compromise with 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.000 Labor on some small points and not being left to 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.800 look irrelevant because they can't bring themselves to actually vote 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.760 against Labor. All true and one of the reasons why 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.560 he should always read him in the os and pay 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.720 attention to him when he pops up here on Sky News. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.360 We also got a bit of an indication that if 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.000 the Parliament does not return and my expectation is when 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.680 you are clearing the decks like this, when the valedictory 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.640 speeches have taken place, that at the very least there 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.800 is a better than a likely chance of Parliament not returning. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.120 I know Philip Coury was talking with Steve Price a 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.160 bit earlier, and as I've told you before, I bet 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.360 the House on much of his analysis. He thinks they 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.280 might come back for a couple of weeks in February, 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.239 but not a March budget, instead a couple of weeks 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.360 to maybe set up a wedge in the lead up 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.240 to an election, which may well end up being more 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.440 like March rather than April or May, which is the 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:55.440 latest that can possibly be well. Today we saw a 0:07:55.480 --> 0:08:00.200 Prime Minister trying to look confident, with ministers yawning behind him, 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.320 and Peter Dutton knowing that the wind is currently at 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:06.880 his back. Now, as I've said multiple times, you would 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.200 prefer to be in the position of Peter Dutton right 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.760 now according to the poles where they are currently leading. 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.160 They're leading on the issues that matter, they're leading on 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.680 the perception of right track wrong track. But of course 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:21.240 the Prime Minister thinks that more albow solves every problem. 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.440 James Campbell, writing about the opinion poll, I went through 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.960 some detail last night about where the country does not 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:30.840 think that the government has the right priorities and now 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.240 a very slim but still majority of people think Dutton 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.480 is ready to govern. He talks about the red Bridge 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.720 pole and the red Bridge pole of public opinion also 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.959 found that almost half of all voters think the country 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.240 said it in the wrong direction, compared to lesson a 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.720 third who think it's headed in the right direction. The 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.439 worrying picture of voter sentiment after two and a half 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:53.400 years of albow time shows the people most alienated from 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.679 the government are not bosses but Labour's traditional blue collar base, 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.120 the same types of people who earlier this month fled 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.000 from the Democrats to Donald Trump. Now, as always when 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.360 there are these opinion polls, I also like to try 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.600 to show you some of the comments which the polsters 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.679 receive from the people who are telling us which way 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.720 they may think about voting or are considering voting going 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.640 into a federal election. The reading is not good for 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:21.920 the Prime Minister. Again. A bunch of people, including Stewart, 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.440 who says shock new poll. I've been expecting this one 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.559 from the day he took office, John President Clinton said 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.559 it's about the economy. Stupid, Well it was his staff 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.400 at the point. Alboys never understood that and spent too 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.080 much time and too much of his mayor mandate on 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.480 pet projects that no one cares about, for example, four 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:41.599 hundred and fifty million dollars On the voice, an anonymous 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.960 person says that or somebody who wanted to remain anonymous, 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:46.880 that people have had enough of the costly, woke agenda 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.160 and that adds no value to society, and seek a 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:54.680 return of governance for the majority. No surprise, Bree says, 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:56.920 there's no doubt if Alberinezi and his government we're given 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.320 another term, things would be far worse than the damage 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.760 that they have already go created. Romwin, get rid of 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.360 this rotten work government who is so out of touch 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:08.280 with the people. Bring on Dunton as quickly as we can. Well, 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.600 an election has to play out before then, I've told 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:12.840 you before. Unless we start to see data that the 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.079 Teals are going to be swept away, we're probably dealing 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.439 with a minority labor government, as frustrating as that could be, 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.319 because we'd all love to see the back of this 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.560 terrible government for all the reasons we have articulated on 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.560 this show for well before they became the government, and 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.839 certainly have been proven right every day since. And we've 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.920 got to see a little bit of a taste of 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.240 some of the messaging, some of the attack lines which 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.520 are going to be rolled out by both of these leaders. 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:38.960 First Anthony Abernezi. You get ready for him to say 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.680 a version of this a thousand times between now and 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.199 when you vote. We're getting things done. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.360 They're just getting anger out, as we just saw during 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:53.520 the last questions. Right, we're acting responsibly, they're acting recklessly. 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.920 We're cutting the cost of living. They're cutting Manicare, pensions 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.439 and housing. That's what they want to do. We're fighting 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.880 for Australians to earn more and keep more of what 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.200 they earn. They want people to work longer for less. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.760 We're fighting inflation. They're fighting amongst themselves. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.640 You know how that is not true, you know, Oh, 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.800 we're focused on cost of living. Their government their term, 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:23.440 fifteen hundred dollars taken off ten million workers. They've turned 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.440 around and spent billions of dollars off budget so they 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.679 don't have to account for it in a budget, which 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.439 is in deficit right now, and the expectations are remember 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:37.239 under this government, their forecast into the future is deficits 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:41.000 every year between now in the twenty sixties, and of 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.839 course when it comes to cost of living. We know 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.360 that they talk a certain talk, but the walk that 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.880 Australia has had to go on has been painful. It's 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.480 been three Christmases in a row now where people have 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.680 had to tighten their belts. There is nothing left but 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.120 we said that last year, which means that we have 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:02.800 to find something else to pull back on, and people, frankly, 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.720 they're cutting down to the bone marrow in too many cases. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.199 Three million people, three million people, this close to homelessness. 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.920 They can say whatever they want. Their political operation will 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.520 try to pretend that up is down, that left is right, 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.360 that these are not the drawers you're looking for, all 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.360 of that Jedimintrix stuff. What they'll be up against is 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.560 Peter Dutton and Peter Dutton who can remain relentless on 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.280 a message that I think is closer to reality. We'll 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:26.640 see how it plays out at the election. 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:31.319 The Australian people cannot believe how incompetent and weak your 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.000 government has been over the last two and a half years, 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.840 your government wasted four hundred and fifty million dollars on 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.599 the voice and divided our country, and on economic and 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.160 energy policies, you've done nothing but drive up the prices 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:43.679 of everything. 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:45.240 Prime Minister, why not call. 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.959 An election now to put Australians out of their misery 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:52.200 and allow competent coalition government to get our country back 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:52.800 on track. 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.520 Just look at the body language. Who looks like they're 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.320 winning versus who's the one who has to tell themselves 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:00.920 that they're winning. Your choice comes sooner rather than later. 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.760 And just like everyone, I want to talk about power 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.320 crisis because feeding him Remember the promise, This was the 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.040 problems before the last election. It was garbage then and 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.360 it's bs now. 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.280 Two hundred and seventy five dollars, two hundred and seventy 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.200 five dollars, two hundred and seventy five dollars, two hundred 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.800 and seventy five dollars, two hundred and seventy five, two 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.040 hundred and seventy five, two hundred and seventy five, two 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.160 hundred and seventy five, two hundred and seventy five, two 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.840 hundred and seventy five dollars. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.520 And Remember that that promise was apparently one that didn't 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.959 apply anymore because according to the Treasurer, that was based 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.400 off old modeling, and there was a war in Ukraine, 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.800 despite the fact that it had actually started before this 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.440 government came to power. 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.360 The number you're referring to was a forecast in twenty 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.920 one about an outcome in twenty five. We're providing energy 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.640 bill relief in the here and now. We did in 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.000 the last budget, we are again in the next budget, 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.360 but there'll be more relief for more people in this well. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:02.800 As always, I'm in the front road to see my 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.440 dear friend Laura Jays each and every morning nine o'clock 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:09.440 astrated Eastern daylight time, and she absolutely ran rings around 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.960 Chris Bowen. Now this bloke thinks he's going to be 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:14.600 the Prime minister one day. He thinks, oh, I can 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.520 pull the New South Wales right behind him. Remember this 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:17.840 is the blog who wanted to run for the Labor 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.600 leadership standing in front of the weatherboard house. Thirty six 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.960 hours later he had withdrawn because he didn't have a chance. 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.400 But he thinks his chance is coming and he thinks 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.800 the way to get there is by just lying to 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:32.360 you about the energy transition that this country is currently in. 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.640 It is hundreds of billions of dollars that need to 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.960 be spent on infrastructure that fingers crossed will have enough 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:43.640 technology firming it be it gas or coal or batteries 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.400 to mean that we don't have scenarios like we've seen 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.280 this week where people are being told, oh, don't use 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.960 your washing machine at night, please don't, don't don't turn 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:56.360 up your re conditioner because the grid won't cop it well. Today, 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.160 he was asked a pretty direct question by Laura about 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:00.960 do you stand by the promise of two hundred and 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:01.880 seventy five dollars? 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.360 Will you commit here and now to bringing down power prices? 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:11.640 When will they come down and how well? 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.240 As I said, we're not walking away from our commitments 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.200 and plans to bring in more innewable energy, which is 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:17.280 the cheapest form of energy. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.880 So who do you believe the Snake charmer in, Jim 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.760 Charmers or Blackout Bower because one of them is lying 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:29.200 to you. It's either still the policy or the modeling 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.080 has completely changed, which means the policy doesn't count anymore. 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.840 He was asked about it in question time When. 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.200 Will the minister finally be straight with the Australian and 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:39.640 people and EMIT labors. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.880 Two hundred and seventy five dollars bill cup promise has 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:44.080 been broken. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.160 And of course he didn't answer the question, but he 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.800 told the biggest lie I have seen in question time 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:55.560 in a very long time. This is what he said. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.960 That the inflation figure is released by the ABS this 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:03.480 week thirty five percent reduction and energy prices the biggest 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.600 fall and energy prices ever recorded in Australian history. 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:12.640 But as you know, it's complete garbage. It's not true. 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:18.040 The cost of electricity has not fallen. The government is 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.360 spending billions of dollars to pay the power companies to 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:27.880 reduce the bill by twenty five dollars a month. The 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.240 collective result of that across the country is that they 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.120 are able to go and have inflation numbers that say 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:39.200 power prices are remarkably fallen, but they haven't. And remember, 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.960 unlike the two hundred and seventy five dollar promise, which 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:43.680 by the way, was not a one off, it was 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.880 a change to the system that would mean a permanent 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:50.040 reduction in the bill you had in twenty twenty one. 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.720 The BILLI you had in twenty twenty two minus two 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:56.760 hundred and seventy five dollars by next year and that'd 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.840 be the new base. But as you know, that has 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.920 not been achieved. In fact, your power prices are up 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:08.480 by almost double or quadruple depending on where you are. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:13.480 And remember the second they stop bribing the power companies, 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:18.280 the bill goes back up, meaning not only does the 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.159 cost of electricity start to actually be passed on in 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.720 its full amount to the customer, the impacts on inflation 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.720 will be extraordinary. But because it's all about just squeaking 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.800 over the line trying to tell people in an election 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.199 that this is not the power bill that you receive 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.600 the Jedi mind trick. But you and I are onto it. 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.840 The Australian people are onto it. They made the promise 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:44.840 how many times, how loudly, they will not have not 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:49.720 and cannot deliver it. Instead, the reality is the exact opposite. 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.480 Yet these people think that the collective voter is so 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.320 stupid that they can be lied to by these people. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:00.520 For his part, Chris Ulman appeared also in our daytime 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:04.280 coverage today at his spectacular documentary which is the Real 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.280 Cost of Zero, currently now available on YouTube. It's at 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:10.760 the top of the sky News YouTube page. Well, he 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:15.280 had plenty to say today about the reality that you 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.960 should always double check that it's raining. If Chris Bowen 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.800 says it's raining, what. 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.760 We'll see over the course of the next few years 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:25.800 on the pathway that we're on, and they're determined to 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:27.679 stay on this pathway, and it's not just the federal 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.480 government's the state governments as well, is that the grid 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:34.280 will become increasingly unreliable and electricity will becoming criticiingly more 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:39.800 expensive because wind and solar generators cannot deliver power on demand. 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.920 They cannot be an electricity system without relying on something. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.800 Now that's something at the moment is coal. In the future, 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:48.760 that something will have to be gas, not just a 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.840 little bit of gas, but fifteen gigawatts of gas. Now, 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.480 I don't know if we have the graphic available, but 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.359 if you look at what's happening in New South Wales 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.680 right now, what you will see that sixty percent of 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:04.520 the generation is coming from coal fired power. There's quite 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:06.480 a bit of solar in the system, but look at 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.040 what's happened with wind one percent. 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:10.600 Why is it that wind. 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:12.560 Is never responsible for the problems that we have in 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.280 the system because of course it always gets a free pass, 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:19.000 and as coal retires, more expensive sources will be called 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:20.840 in in order to fill that gap. 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:27.159 Facts matter, spin and vibes and all the other garbage. 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.560 People don't fall for it. The reality is that power 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:32.919 has gone through the roof as a result of this 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.760 government choosing one technology over the other. That is just 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:41.680 the reality. Please watch that documentary again. It's the top 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.240 of our YouTube page. And speaking of documentaries, go to 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.760 sky News dot com dot Au and check out that 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.399 incredible one about cyclone Tracy. They're hitting it out of 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.200 the park our Doto's team at the moment and I 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.800 look forward to many more of them next year. Now, 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.879 for a long time I've was a competition between the 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:59.280 Queensland government and the Victorian government about which one was 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.199 the worst in the country. Thankfully, the bad Labor government 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:05.680 is flushed in Queensland, so now one is left standing 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.960 and it is the Victorian government. The Victorian government first 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:14.000 of Daniel andrews now of his protege just into Alan, 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.320 is in a world of trouble, making decisions that make 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.720 everything worse every day. The priorities are all over the 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:24.800 shop of we make cool TikTok videos. Well, hopefully Victoria 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:26.520 is at some point in time going to wake up 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.239 to this mob. But let's give them a little end 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:33.679 of year report card. The debt in Victoria is so 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.879 big that with the help of this little graphic, I 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:40.879 can show you that every Victorian man, woman or baby 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:46.840 collectively owes twenty five thousand dollars in government debt. That 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.880 is more than the federal government, where each and every 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:55.720 Australian man, woman and baby twenty four thousand dollars. South 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:59.679 Australia seventeen, New so Whals fifteen, Tasmania twelve, Queensland Tea 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:06.040 nine repeat worst in the country twenty five thousand dollars 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.919 for every one of its citizens. That's the story of 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:13.360 the Allen government. Amen, there's the TRIPLEO system about police, 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:19.040 fire or ambulance, the Triplo system, which remember thirty three 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.680 people died before the last state election as a result 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:23.960 of the failures in the Tripleo system. Oh, they said 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:28.320 it's been fixed. Will last week the Tripleo system had 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:34.360 dispatches using pen and paper. That's the Allen Labor government. 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:38.080 At the Royal Melbourne Hospital, the age tells us today 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:43.040 that they are slashing the number of junior doctors hours 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:48.239 in the hospital because they can't pay for them. And 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.240 then there's this little doozy, which I'm sure you have 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:54.320 not heard anywhere else. It is the number of kids 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:58.840 that need to be restrained because of what they are 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:02.919 doing at school. The numbers are particularly frightening because the 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:07.359 vast majority of this stuff is happening in primary schools. 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:11.520 According to the age record high numbers of students being 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:18.360 restrained or secluded at Victoria State Schools is now two 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:24.240 seven hundred kids in the twoy twenty three figure. It 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:27.560 represents a forty six percent increase on the previous year, 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:31.080 when eighteen hundred and forty four students were restrained or 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.000 put into some sort of seclusion. This according to data 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:37.520 that has been publicly released by the Education Department since 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.639 twenty nineteen. Let's not use words, Let's use the pretty 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.000 pictures and the graphs to tell the story. Have a 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:46.320 look at this on the left hand side, twenty nineteen, 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:48.640 the dip of twenty twenty when kids were at home 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:52.280 not physically in school, and now in twenty and twenty three, 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:59.000 primary school kids fourteen hundred and sixty six were restrained 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:04.080 in the Victorian public education system four hundred and six 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.159 in high school. What's going on with primary school kids 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:11.280 because of aggression to other people? You can see it 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:13.840 went down in the pandemic, it came straight back when 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.440 school came back. It fell down last year and now 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:20.640 it's up to fifteen hundred, fifteen hundred kids who needed 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:26.320 to be restrained because of aggression towards other people at school? 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:32.199 What about self harm? One hundred and twenty seven. One 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:35.200 hundred and twenty seven kids had to be restrained because 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.760 of what they may be doing to themselves. I hope 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:39.919 they're so proud of what they've done to our kids. 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.359 I hate everyone who made the decisions to keep our 0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:45.560 kids out of school for a couple of years Victoria 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:50.000 the worst and two hundred and thirteen because they were 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:53.760 going to damage property with a risk of hurting themselves 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:58.639 or somebody else. But what does the Victorian premiere focus on? 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:04.800 What is this more ondoing instead defending the rights of 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:10.520 a murderer to have IVF in jail. Oh, of course 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.040 this will be referred to as a very minor incident 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:15.560 that nobody should do. How does this person have the 0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:20.560 right to that certain offenses must result in not having 0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.480 access to this system. We're not talking about a person 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:26.720 who's in jail for three months or six or even 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.879 a year. It's a person who's supposed to be in 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:37.760 jail for longer than fifteen years because of a murder. Unbelievable. 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:42.800 The family of those who have been impacted forever because 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:47.520 of her actions think that this is an outrage. Yet today, 0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:51.040 rather than saying, look, this shouldn't happen, I promise it 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:55.480 will never happen again. This was the crap that the 0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:59.560 Victorian premier was serving up today. Remember this whenever the 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:00.960 hell is a chance to vote out. 0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.480 There has been a program that has run since the 0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:09.719 nineteen eighties. Are Living with Mum's program that operates across 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:13.760 Victoria's correctional system. It has been run obviously over that 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:17.320 period times under liberal and labor governments, and it is 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:22.320 a program that is supported within the operational budget of 0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:26.280 Corrections Victoria. So that is a program that's existing, a 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:32.120 long standing program that is run throughout the correction system Victoria. 0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:37.439 Please please the education system, the prison system, youth crime 0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:41.919 housing debt. You've got to get rid of them. You 0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:44.280 absolutely have to get I get it about the Libs, 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.280 and I know all the rest of it, but for 0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:48.840 please please get rid of them. Sadly, it'll be a 0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:52.040 little while before that happens. Now, there is one word 0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:54.600 that has been used an awful lot over the past 0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:56.840 couple of years. You've heard me say it, and here's 0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:58.640 a whole bunch of others saying. 0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:03.919 It, blaming walk politics and walkism and cancel culture. 0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:12.680 There's a military as walker. Everything walk turns to well. 0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:14.560 Kill Richards is of course the word man who you 0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.800 can see here quite regularly here on sky News. He 0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:21.600 wrote a great piece today about the word woke and 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:25.439 what it actually means. It means snob and it's a 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.879 very simple way of putting things, but it is absolutely 0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:30.000 the key to understanding most of the people who practice 0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:31.840 this stuff. Put this at the absolute heart and set 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.720 of everything. The snobs. They are snobs. They look down 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:36.960 on any and everyone who does not view the world 0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:39.280 exactly as they do. Well done, good articles skyews, dot 0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:43.000 com dot Au. Meantime, the social media band which will 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.600 make its way through Parliament as part of the dirty 0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.360 deal with the Greens. The Coalition however, will also back 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:50.640 it in but because there'll be no debate. You won't 0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:52.159 be hearing from anyone who's going to be crossing the 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.119 floor now. Andrew Wilkie, the Independent, at some point in 0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:58.240 time supported this, but has magically turned around and said no, 0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.960 he's not going to support it. The reason he took 0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:06.040 to his teenage members of his family. So why did 0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:07.840 he come out and support it at all in the 0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:11.840 first place. And one more little thing about the great 0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.560 Man Donald Trump that is worth noticing. As you know, 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.159 he has named virtually all but two. I think of 0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.760 the positions that he can name to form his cabinet, 0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:21.560 do the little dance. I love the dance. We love 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.600 the dance. You can see all of those that range 0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.720 from controversy to slam dunk picks. We went to the 0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.240 New York Times because thankfully they had the little pictures 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:32.560 to help. Those are the ones the Senate needs to 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.720 vote on. The next are the ones that can just 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:39.560 be appointed without a vote in the Senate. But there 0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.080 is an interesting little thing that I have to tell 0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:44.840 you about here. Donald Trump won the popular vote the 0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.440 Electric College. They got the majority in the Senate, and 0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:51.240 they won the majority in the House. However, the majority 0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:52.879 in the House looks like it is not going to 0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:54.639 be that big. In fact, it is going to be 0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:58.440 awf of thin. To quote the Big Boy from The 0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.360 Meaning of Life right YouTube video, Go and double check 0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:06.439 it out enough to do the mint. Now, many of 0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.240 the people that Donald Trump has appointed to his cabinet 0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.680 are currently sitting members of the House of Representatives, which 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:16.000 means that there has to be special elections in many 0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.000 of the cases. Not in every case, but in many 0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.520 of the cases, there has to basically be a by election. Now, 0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.720 if you have a full fifted buggeral majority and you 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.280 end up not replacing those people with Republicans, there is 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.840 a statistical chance that at the end of all of 0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:32.680 those by elections, control of the House will go from 0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.199 Republican to Democrat. 0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.160 Goodness gracious, yes, the Republicans are going to control the 0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.680 House of Representatives. But if all the current results hauled up, 0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:47.440 we're looking at a record small majority after the Novembers 0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:50.080 in the last ninety years. You have to go all 0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:53.160 the way back since the Herbert Hoover administration to find 0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.680 and even smaller majority. After November elections. We're talking about 0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:59.600 the Republicans with two hundred and twenty seats. Democrats were 0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.640 two hundred fifteen at the current House results hold and 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.040 keep in mind that this will drop lawer if the 0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:09.200 phonic Waltz or others like mac Gates leave the Congress. 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.080 And that's the point. Numbers always matter. If the Democrats, 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.840 of course end up in control, it would mean that 0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:19.840 clearly you don't get everything that you want. In fact, 0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.880 you have to negotiate everything, just like in Australia. The 0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.920 legislation starts in the House, it moves to the Senate 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.760 and then it is signed off on or vetoed by 0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.840 the President. Clearly, if it's all of the one color, 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.560 then basically you start out with an idea, you find 0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.360 a path, and you get it done. If one part 0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.920 of the Parliament isn't going to help you do anything, 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.440 then it is a giant handbrake, one that may well 0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:48.040 be pulled potentially before even the twentieth of January. Will 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:49.520 keep an eye on it for you because it is 0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.800 an insight into how effective the second Trump presidency is 0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.760 going to be. Quick break back with more loss to 0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:56.280 talk about tonight, including who do you think is the 0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.040 winner and loser of the week? Jump on the Facebook 0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:03.880 page in a second all right, let's get right into 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:06.080 it now, Michael Kroger. Just a couple of days out 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.600 from summer. Apparently it's quite cold this evening in Melbourne, 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.720 judging by the puffer jacket and the reason we're in HD. 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:13.640 Look at a million bucks. But she's got plenty more 0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:15.600 to say, is none of them? The wonderful Chritiy McSweeney 0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:17.680 from the pr Council in Candria, which is always just 0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:18.720 there to help Hi. 0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:20.920 So just here watching the Senate. 0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.520 Oh okay, look, I was going to do a Lydia 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.000 Thorpe free zone when it comes to this. But what 0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.240 did you think about today where there was another way 0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:31.800 she injected herself into the storylines of the day. 0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:37.000 Christie, I was actually in the public gallery. I wanted 0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:40.800 to throw to meet a guest, a new visitor to 0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:44.120 Parliament House who hadn't been there before, who was confronted 0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:49.040 with the dulphin times of Lydia Thorpe yelling into the gallery. 0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.040 And I can tell you there were about one hundred 0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:55.320 school children and their teachers there who couldn't quite believe 0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:58.560 that they had taken these young people to the heart 0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:02.239 and soul of Australian democracy and we're confronted with that, 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.120 and we're told that is one of our senators. 0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.400 It's disgraceful. Michael. I know in the past, every time 0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:10.640 I've tried to talk, you've said I don't want to 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:12.760 talk about it because it adds fuel to the fire. 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:17.080 I will simply say this, why can't the Coalition make 0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:21.280 her behavior something that's so unacceptable that the government doesn't 0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.280 accept her vote? Because one of the reasons why we 0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.600 got the scenario that we did, well, look, you know, 0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:28.480 one minute to midnight, we'll give you a little bit 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.880 of a penalty. It's because they had a mathematical way 0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:34.160 around her. Otherwise they need her vote. But the whole 0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:37.120 point is, as it was with Peter Slipper, as it 0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:40.320 was with Craig Thompson in the twenty ten to thirteen Parliament, 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.920 why doesn't the Coalition say, all right, if you want 0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:47.240 better standards, Prime Minister right now, promise to never talk 0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.280 to her again, not negotiate with her, and don't seek 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:53.720 her vote. That good mate. 0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:55.920 But of course that would elongate the story, wouldn't it. 0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:59.320 It'd make her the story for another week, another two weeks. 0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.880 Every time this and it were sitting the concentration would 0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:04.640 be on whether the government's accepting her vote or not, 0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:06.520 and we'd have to talk about it. In Albanie whould 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.160 have to talk about it and would make Lydia Thorpe 0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:13.040 the story. I think she's been a disgrace to herself, 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.920 to the Greens that she was formerly a member of 0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.560 for picking her in the first place. She's making it up, 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:23.960 a fool of herself. And you know, people are sick 0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:27.720 of this tied ole three card trick that everyone's racist, 0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.760 everything's racist, everything's about our people. Colonials and the king 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.760 people are tired of this. They think it's rubbish. They 0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:35.880 don't like her and they can't wait to get rid. 0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:39.840 Of her exactly. We'll see what happens. Elections have consequences, 0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.280 as we know, and we'll see what happens when it 0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.080 comes to that center. In the next of the while, 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.920 let's talk about Chris Bowen today. I mean Christy, this bloke, 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:52.840 I mean, you know, the protective guard that is the 0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:56.520 sort of Canberra media who's voted yes for the Voice 0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.440 and the rest of the country didn't all think that 0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.600 he's the worr for fighting climate change all the rest 0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.440 of it. For those of us outside of it. I 0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:05.960 know there's plenty of people in the real world and 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.760 the Act forgive me for lobbing you in with everyone else. However, 0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.000 power bills have gone up, all right, we all know 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.440 they've gone up. If they've ever so slightly come down, 0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.000 it's because of this artificial way. Yet he's standing in 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.320 the Parliament pretending, oh, power prices have fallen by thirty 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:24.000 five percent? Does he actually think people are that stupid? 0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.360 Because he can't be that stupid. He has to make 0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:31.920 a bet that the collective Australian is and I think 0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:32.800 that's a wrong bet. 0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:38.880 Christy Well, he began as a sensible economic policy member 0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.600 of Labour's right faction, which has some very sensible people 0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.800 in it. But of course he sank Bill Shorten with 0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:49.440 the Franklin credits in the Finance portfolio, and he may 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:53.960 well sing Galbo in concert with the Prime Minister himself 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:59.200 on digging in on this renewable energy. What has turned 0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:04.440 out to be fast power prices and the significant increases 0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.560 that Australians are facing have been blamed on the war 0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:11.960 in Ukraine. They've been blamed on COVID. I'm sure they're 0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.880 going to be blamed on Trump and his tariff regime 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:19.239 anytime now. Their two hundred and seventy five dollars is 0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:24.960 based on economic modeling pre the twenty twenty two election. 0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:30.320 It hasn't been updated. There hasn't been any economic basis 0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:34.279 for how we're going to get power prices down in 0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.960 the cost of living crisis, which energy and utilities is 0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.960 a major contributor to people's household bills that are in 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:44.439 a cost of living crisis and facing those issues well. 0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:48.319 But also, I mean again, Michael, it's not hard or 0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.719 it is not hard for people to be able to go. 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.799 You made the promise of two seventy five. He gets 0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:58.720 confronted with it today again, seems to double down, seems 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:05.640 to recommit himself again. What he said to Laura, Mate, sorry, 0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:09.040 I thought we're Chris Bowen is the you go, oh, 0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:09.760 Chris Bowe. 0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.200 Chris Bone is the gift that keeps on giving. And 0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.919 you mentioned Chris Human's thing before. If people haven't seen 0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:18.360 Chris Human's documentary, this is compulsory viewing. You've got to 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.640 sit down for two hours, watch it twice. It's to 0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:22.440 watch it twice. There's so much packed in there. Get 0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:24.800 a notepad and make some notes which I'm about to 0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:27.879 read out some of Chris Newman's absolute pieces of gold 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:31.680 Bowen Christy, don't forget in thirteen he helped sink He 0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:36.160 helped sink the rud government. He helped sink Shortens, he 0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:39.439 said in nineteen, and he might sink Albanisi. He would 0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.000 be the first politician in Australian history to sink his 0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:46.239 party on three occasions, which takes which takes some going. 0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:49.160 But I think the point is this mate, the wonderful 0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:52.080 working middle class in this country, as in America, it 0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.200 takes them a while to work things out, but sooner 0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.520 or later they work it out. Like the voice sounded 0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:58.640 great until they worked out what it meant. They seen, 0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:02.399 renewables are great until they've started to work out that, hey, 0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.360 if it's the cheapest form of energy, why my bills 0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.719 going up at twenty five hundred, one thousand dollars a year. 0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:11.200 So if you watch Chrus Hilman's thing, here's a couple 0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.120 of his great stats, right, memorable stats from this documentary. 0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:18.240 He said twenty in the last twenty five years, oil 0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:21.600 gas coal has gone from eighty five percent of the 0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:25.239 world usage to eighty one in twenty five years. It's 0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:28.759 gone down four percent in the next twenty five. It's 0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:33.719 going down from eighty one to zero. Huh, really, eighty 0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:36.120 five to eighty one in the last twenty five, eighty 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.560 one to zero in the next twenty five. Secondly, they 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.479 had the end of this Environmentals from Queensland who said 0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:43.440 the public have got no idea what's coming. There's more 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.879 than twenty thousand wind turbines coming to the east coast 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.799 of Australia at Tasmania, South Australia in the next ten 0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:53.200 or so years, twenty thousand of them. The good news, 0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:56.160 Paul is there's not a single wind tower coming to 0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:00.680 a seatthild by the Greens or the Teals, which is 0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:03.600 great because I now live in adam Bansea because of redistribution, 0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.560 so they aren't going to many wind towers in South Era. 0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:08.720 That's the good news. But all you people in the country, 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:14.640 rural Australia, there's twenty thousand of these monstrosities coming. Yulman 0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.279 also pointed out that reminded us that album even made 0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.479 that promise by the next election. The two seventy five 0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:24.239 deduction is coming by May next year, so that's good 0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.239 news for everybody whose bills have gone up five hundred 0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:30.600 one thousand. We've spent twenty five billion dollars on subsidizing 0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:34.480 renewables in the last ten years, twenty five billion. And 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:39.600 finally he pointed out that battery are the most expensive 0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:44.359 form of energy. So when Bowen says, oh, you know, 0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:48.440 renewable is the cheapest, the working middle class, the silent 0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.040 majority have worked out this is all bulldast This is 0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:54.839 complete bull dust. It is the most expensive form when 0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:59.319 you have to use batteries, and people's lived experiences that 0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.800 their price have gone up if it's the cheapest, Chris, 0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:03.360 why haven't they gone down mate? 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:03.680 Well? 0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:06.959 And also can I make a point there as well, 0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:10.080 Chris Mins in New South Wales, Labor knows that New 0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:11.759 South Wales is going to run out of power on 0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.319 his what and he asked Origin to extend the life 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:19.120 of the aroar and coal powered station for another two years. 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:19.319 Now. 0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:21.960 Origin didn't want to. So there are people in the 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.960 Labor party who know, well the jig is up, and 0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.440 it's the premiers who don't want to be blame for 0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:28.840 mass blackouts. 0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:31.239 Well, and also I'm just having a look here too. 0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.319 At the national energy market, and they're film mix right 0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.319 where they talk about where everything comes from new sid 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:43.080 Wells alone nine percent in wind farm, fifteen percent in solar. 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:46.120 And I think Chris's point earlier tonight that I reemphasized 0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.000 that wind farms, which of course there's many, many and 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.000 many many more to come. And remember the graphic that 0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:52.600 he showed about all of those ones that are coming 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.400 down the coast. Again, the doco's up on our YouTube 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:57.600 page right now, it's top you can watch it there 0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:01.120 for free. That it gets let off the hook so frequently, 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.480 but also to the broader political issues here too, Christy, 0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:07.600 where you know Albo thinks more albow is going to 0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:09.960 solve the problem. I think that there's plenty of indices 0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.080 that say once they tune out of a prime minister, 0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:16.200 the last person they want to hear from is that person. Certainly, 0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.920 in the relentless lead up to and in an election, 0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:21.920 just thirty two percent of the country says that we 0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:25.040 are headed in the right track, that the right direction. 0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:29.000 Forty seven percent of people under the age of thirty 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.560 four they were headed in the wrong direction. Fifty one 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:35.080 percent of thirty nine to forty nine's forty five percent 0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.800 of fifty to sixty four's sixty five plus forty nine percent. 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.160 Also worth noting two, does this sound like the realignment 0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.440 that was playing out in the United States? That may 0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.640 well play out here. When people under the age sorry, 0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:51.800 the highest qualification was high school or you left before 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.920 the HC, fifty seven percent headed in the wrong direction, 0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.080 forty seven percent if it was year twelve, fifty two 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.160 percent if it was a tafe or trade university degree. 0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:03.680 They're the ones who are a little undecided. They think 0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:07.680 it's forty percent versus thirty seven. The extreme majority of 0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:10.920 the Australian people do not like the direction the joint 0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.240 is heading. This bloke's going to go to an election 0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:16.279 saying please trust us, We're going to continue going down 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.080 the yellow brick road. Well, we all remember who was 0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.719 actually behind the curtain once they got there. 0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:27.080 So it's interesting you said only thirty two percent of 0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:30.879 Australian Australia is in the heading and the right track, 0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:36.200 that's roughly the primary vote of Labor and the Liberal 0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:39.360 Party is only slightly higher. You did mention a number 0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:43.279 of other demographics that are unusual people under thirty four, 0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:47.400 But from all those demographics, they have to cobble together 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:52.120 at least a forty percent. It depends what their relationship 0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:55.680 with the Greens turns out in a preference scenario at 0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:58.080 the election. It's turning out pretty well for them today 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.879 in the Senate, I can tell you, but reality would 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:05.000 say you need to cobble together somewhere between thirty five 0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:10.160 and forty percent to win a majority government or even 0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:14.360 to win a minority government with the grants. So very interesting. 0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.759 It matches up with the coalitions out of suburban strategy. 0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.000 There is a school of thought that we'll try and 0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.480 win back as many tail seats as we can, but 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:28.560 largely forsake them to try and win marginal seats on 0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:31.520 the outskirts of the city. They need to hold the 0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.920 three out of metropolitan marginals in Victoria, two on the 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:39.600 central coast, two in the Northern Territory. There's a pathway 0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.240 for the coalition, but there's a lot of marginal seats 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.800 and most of them aren't in the inner city. 0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:48.120 Yeah. Well, interesting, pay attention to the Northern territory right. Firstly, 0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.560 Alea from Kiaro is doing a great job as the 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:55.640 territory chief minister. But Solomon, which has moved before lingiari 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:58.200 a little bit harder, but what happens there? But Michael, 0:41:58.200 --> 0:41:59.800 what about some of these suggestions I was reading in 0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:01.919 some one to day suggesting the Libs are trying to 0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.800 hammer to win four Victorian seats. How does your maps 0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:09.800 go towards the end of the year about either Labor 0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:11.280 minority or a Dutton minority. 0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:15.600 Well, I've been saying for weeks I think Peter Dutton's 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.800 favorite to win the election. That I can count fifteen 0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:21.080 seats he's going to win, which puts him on seventy two, 0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:23.479 presuming he wins back the two seats that are held 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:27.480 by Independence formerly our seats. So I think he's close 0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:31.360 to a majority at this point in time. You have 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:35.320 to say, Peter Dutton's majority in his own right depends 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:41.319 on Victoria, which is Chisholm, McEwen, Kuyong and Goldstein. Because 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:45.600 I think he's going to win back Aston great candidate there, Mannychacello. 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.200 But he's got those four seats, right, He's got those 0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.200 four seats which are fifty to fifty. If he wins 0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:54.560 them all, he wins in his own right. If he doesn't, 0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:58.200 he doesn't win in his own right. Now the Liberal 0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.560 Party brand in Victoria is not as strong as it 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.280 used to be when we had A Costello, A Peacock, 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:08.680 A Malcolm Fraser, Robert Menzies, Henry Bolty. Jeff Kennet said 0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:13.080 the brand is not as strong and so a lot 0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:16.480 depends on the performance of the state parliamentary Liberal Party 0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.560 quite frankly, because in nineteen ninety when Andrew Peacock I 0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:21.799 was president, then Peacock won nine seats in one night. 0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:24.120 We started with fifteen ended up with twenty four one 0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.120 night seats from lab almost won the election on the 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.640 back of Victoria. That was on the back of a 0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:33.160 very strong performance by Kennett, Alan Brown, Alan Stockdale, the 0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.880 state Parlamentry Party boring it into the Cain Kernel government. 0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.440 That level of hatred of a labor government isn't as 0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:43.120 strong as it is as it was then. So even 0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:46.840 though people don't like Jasindra Allen and she's been hopeless, 0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:49.680 there isn't that people haven't got the baseball that's they 0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:51.880 had in nineteen ninety. So it depends very much in 0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:53.680 our state colleagues here, I love. 0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:55.600 When we get down to the detail, though dirty little 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.799 details of politics. I love it in every way, shape 0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:00.600 or formant. Remember, when it comes to preferences, what you 0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:02.640 do with number two matters as much as what you 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.080 do with number one. In nineteen when there was the 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:09.400 preference discipline, the surprise election result, when everyone runs away, 0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:11.319 well we got our boat or a quick breakpack with 0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:13.800 more including who is the winner and loser of the week. 0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.279 I've got my saying, and I look forward to our 0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:22.960 panels in a moment. Let's go to some old classics 0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:24.640 before we get the winners and losers of the week. Christin 0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:28.359 McSweeney is here with Michael Kroger. Michael, the chairman of 0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.439 the ABC says they deserve more money. Okay, great, they're 0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:34.640 the only media organization who thinks they are pardon me, 0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:39.240 guaranteed a larger amount of money. Apologies for the cough everyone, 0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.080 But also he decided to really sort of say that 0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:46.799 Joe Rogan was a bit beneath people to listen to 0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:48.760 what's he on about? 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:53.640 Mate? 0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:56.879 If you want to look when Kim Williams came in, right, 0:44:56.920 --> 0:45:00.520 he made some really good statements about the ABC, and 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:03.239 people thought, maybe he's going to shake this place up. 0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:06.040 Maybe he's actually going to do what previous chairs had 0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.600 not been able to do in previous board members, including myself, 0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:10.680 and not been able to do. But then he gives 0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:15.600 this bizarre performance, totally bizarre performance where you know, if 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:20.040 you're talking about sneering snobs, the sort of the Sydney 0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:26.160 arts upper class. He's horrified by this, Joe Rogan, who 0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:31.080 people listen to and is horrified by his power. It's appalling, 0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:33.120 he said. He you know, not that he ever listened 0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:36.000 to him, but need heard this. Millions and millions of 0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:39.040 people are listening to this Joe Rogan, and billions of 0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:42.920 people have watched his watched his podcasts back on YouTube, 0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:46.439 and fifty million people had watched Donald Trump's interview with him. 0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.840 He was horrified by this. This is the problem with 0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:55.719 the inner city Sydney ABC arts elites, right, they are 0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.960 completely out of touch with normal, ordinary working class people. 0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:02.759 And Kim, I'm afraid that was an absolute shocker at 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.040 the Press Club. If you want to know why the 0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:06.960 incoming dut and government are not going to give you 0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:11.920 a cent more, your performance of the Press Club is 0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:13.960 evidence of why you're not going to get another crack 0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:14.520 of my friend. 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.320 Yeah, but again, Christy, this idea we need more money 0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:18.759 to do what we do. Look, if you've got to 0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:22.120 guarantee billion dollars, that's certainly a guarantee of revenue that 0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:25.759 no other media organization has in the country. It's one 0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:29.440 of two public broadcasters. There are ways that you can 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.560 reorientate what they do, but instead they want to do 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.960 everything they've always done and more with the same If 0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:39.239 not more money. 0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:42.720 Well, maybe put programming on that people want to tune 0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:46.680 into and watch. From time to time, when my Malcolm 0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:50.879 Turnbull NBN fails, I have to watch from read Word television, 0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:56.200 and I have been caught catching snippets of shows like 0:46:56.239 --> 0:47:02.000 Spicks and SPACs and ABC Morning Radio and I can't 0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:06.840 even remember the weekly and various shows where a raft 0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:13.320 of IBC comedians appear or contractors contracted to the IBC 0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.560 so they can get away with saying they're not ABC employees. 0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:23.280 Consistently engaging in humor that is very much towards people 0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:27.880 who vote in a conservative way. So if the ABC 0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:31.480 doesn't like Joe Rogan, you don't like it, but you 0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:34.560 have to agree there's a market for that. And also 0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:37.400 Joe Rogan has done some pretty good things. Joe Rogan 0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:40.880 is the reason why young men have taken their fitness 0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.799 and their mental health seriously. Look, I don't agree with 0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:48.319 everything he says, but anybody who can harness young men 0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:51.520 and to get them to look at their mental health 0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:54.200 and their fitness and how those two things interact, and 0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:57.680 to get them to critically, critically think about issues. It's 0:47:57.719 --> 0:47:58.399 not all bad. 0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:01.480 And that's the thing, a fundamental misunderstanding of what that 0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:03.640 offering is. Look, you know, I get it. I'm a 0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:05.480 fan of it, right, but it ain't church and it 0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:08.239 ain't something that every single word you agree with. But yeah, 0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:11.560 wondering out loud, Goodness, goodness, gracious, all right, winners and 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:13.120 losers of the week, let's go for it, let's go 0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:15.760 bumper stickers? Though this time? Who is it? Michael? 0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:19.880 It was going to be you after the magnificent Our 0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:24.080 Town in ben Nigo and which I thought was just made. 0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:28.000 That was a stunning program. And look you driving that tram. 0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:33.319 I think that's a if people didn't watch it, that's 0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.080 a career for Paul coming up there when he leaves here. Finally, 0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.920 but then I saw Laura James this morning with Blackout Bowen, 0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:45.120 and I transferred from you to law But no, no, unfortunately, unfortunately, 0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:49.000 my friend, my friend, Simon Birmingham announced today that he's 0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:51.560 leaving the Senate after eight years. Simon has been a 0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:53.960 great servant of South Australia and the Liberal Party and 0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.279 I wish him all the best. He's had a great 0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:58.719 career as the loyal servant of this country and I 0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:02.040 wish him well. A loser the week, Penny Wong and 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:12.440 burn the immigration minister Burke, I mean three and Giles 0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:17.400 pre so three thousand to Gaza and can't give a 0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:20.080 visit to a former Israeli minister. 0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:23.240 Excellent point. Christy. You'll have to text me your thoughts 0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:25.480 because while Michael was very kind, he took all of 0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:28.040 your time. Thank you guys, Love you guys. So you 0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.040 have a wonderful weekend we ever happened to be You 0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:31.480 have a great one too. We'll see on Sunday. Go 0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:31.880 Yankee s.