Speaker 1: I get a team. I hope you Blady Gray. Welcome
Speaker 1: to another installing the show. We were just banging on
Speaker 1: Tiff and David and I. We're talking about we'll get
Speaker 1: to the topic at hand, but we're talking about Tiss
Speaker 1: fledgling piano career. Which how is it going? Before we
Speaker 1: talk to the man?
Speaker 2: It's going great, it's going great. It's very hard. There's
Speaker 2: a lot to learn.
Speaker 1: How many days are you into your piano career? Now?
Speaker 2: It was two weeks on Sunday since I brought her home.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she.
Speaker 1: Has a gender your keyboard. That's good, and so two
Speaker 1: weeks Sunday, So it's like seventeen days now. Yeah, what's it?
Speaker 1: Because the excitement level was fifteen about two weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Do you know what's good? What's good is the way
Speaker 2: it feels that I link it with this. I guess
Speaker 2: the science of learning boxing is. I'm obsessed with doing
Speaker 2: on the ship that most people complain about. I'll sit
Speaker 2: and do scal I'm like, what should I practice to
Speaker 2: be good? And I'll just do him and do him
Speaker 2: and do him and do him because I know what
Speaker 2: doing it and doing it and doing it results in.
Speaker 2: When you're just trying to learn to throw one punch,
Speaker 2: and I've got eighty eight bloody keys to memorize.
Speaker 3: I was going to.
Speaker 1: Ask, as stupidly when the public might get to see you,
Speaker 1: But the public's been seeing you from about day two,
Speaker 1: you shy little wallflower.
Speaker 3: Day one.
Speaker 2: Five minutes in I played a little tune and put
Speaker 2: it up five minutes.
Speaker 1: Do you reckon? Let's before we ask alesbo do you
Speaker 1: reckon his kick and play an instrument? What's your yes?
Speaker 1: Or no? I bet he can? I bet he played
Speaker 1: something when he was a kid. Probably pick I reckon?
Speaker 2: He played a wind instrument?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I am a wind instrument, giless bow? Did you hi?
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 1: Did you play any kind of instruments? Or maybe you
Speaker 1: still do?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I did very much against my will. I was. I
Speaker 3: was forced to learn piano all through primary school, and
Speaker 3: then I was forced to play a win wind instrument
Speaker 3: right at high school. It was a tuba, which which
Speaker 3: was great because I was really really bad at it
Speaker 3: and it didn't matter when all you had to do
Speaker 3: was go boomp, bump boom.
Speaker 1: Well, was your mum trying to make you a social outcast?
Speaker 1: Shout out to the tuba.
Speaker 3: Players I know she didn't get a choice. It was
Speaker 3: the school. The school decided that's what I was going
Speaker 3: to be doing. I think it was down to the
Speaker 3: fact that they had a tuba and no one to
Speaker 3: play it.
Speaker 1: And you had particularly big cheeks.
Speaker 3: No, I think it was that I had to do
Speaker 3: an extracurricular activity and they put me down for that.
Speaker 1: Come so sad that your tuber career didn't take off?
Speaker 1: Now we have not How good did you get on that?
Speaker 1: You couldn't You probably never got tips level on the piano.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I started appalling and ended appalling, and
Speaker 3: that's just fine by me. I Actually some of my
Speaker 3: kids have ended up being extremely talented musicians. But it's
Speaker 3: skipt A generator. And my father was too, but it's
Speaker 3: skipt are generation with me.
Speaker 1: Do you do you think though that like maybe if
Speaker 1: you loved it like you hated it, right, so you're
Speaker 1: never going to be good at it because you're never
Speaker 1: going to be passionate about it.
Speaker 3: Oh, adam being tone deaf, you know it. But you know,
Speaker 3: my family will listen to a great piece of music
Speaker 3: and they'll be, you know, in raptures about how good
Speaker 3: it is, and to me it all just sounds the same.
Speaker 1: Really, that's so weird. There's not many people that you
Speaker 1: meet TIV that don't like music like they might like
Speaker 1: a different genre, but so you don't. Really you're not
Speaker 1: a fan of any band or any particular act or singer.
Speaker 3: I know I like ac DC, but I think them
Speaker 3: and music probably aren't necessary barely spoken in the same sentence.
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, don't be sacriligious. That is that is sure,
Speaker 1: there's a loose connection. Yeah, I saw I last saw them.
Speaker 1: I saw them the last time they played in Melbourne
Speaker 1: at the MCG just before what's his name, Brian Johnson.
Speaker 1: I was going to say Bond Scott, but Bond died
Speaker 1: about thirty years rip. Yeah, Brian Johnson pulled the pin
Speaker 1: because he's I think his voice is fucked. So I
Speaker 1: don't know that they're actually in existence anymore, but they
Speaker 1: gave it a good crack for about forty years, I reckon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they have some real bangers. But they are bangers.
Speaker 3: There's you know, you don't have to not be toned
Speaker 3: off to enjoy them.
Speaker 1: Well, they're no Tiff Cook, who's playing Vivaldi in Tchaikowski
Speaker 1: and Mozart and Brahms on a regular basis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well she's proving that whole ten thousand hour
Speaker 3: thing that Malcolm glad will popular I wanted to do something, Well,
Speaker 3: then you've got to put ten thousand hours into.
Speaker 1: We've also spoken about the idea that you know somebody
Speaker 1: that like when you you know Tiger Woods or the
Speaker 1: william sisters, like they both started very very young and
Speaker 1: and they were you know, prodigies, and then they were
Speaker 1: world champions and all of these people, we think, what
Speaker 1: if they're or Roger Federer or any of these amazing
Speaker 1: world class famous people that what if they never picked
Speaker 1: up a tennis racket or a golf club, or what
Speaker 1: if they never were in the proximity of that thing,
Speaker 1: that they became the best in the world at Like
Speaker 1: you one of those people that like maybe if Tiff
Speaker 1: started when she was three, she'd just be an internationally
Speaker 1: renowned painist at the moment.
Speaker 3: Well, there's no reason she can't be anyway. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't subscribe much to the ten thousand hour theory,
Speaker 3: and I don't think complad Well does now either. I
Speaker 3: think it became a lot bigger than he thought it
Speaker 3: would be. I think it's more a function of focus.
Speaker 3: When you are focused to the level you would need
Speaker 3: to be to do the kind of hours that Tiff
Speaker 3: is putting into this, your brain is sort of in
Speaker 3: a hyperactive state where it's laying down connections and memories
Speaker 3: at a speed and frequency that you just can't do
Speaker 3: in everyday life. And so that if you can find
Speaker 3: something that you can do that with, you're going to
Speaker 3: get very very good at it, you know, whether you're
Speaker 3: counting up how many hours you do in it or not.
Speaker 1: I always worry about science. That's you know, when we go, oh,
Speaker 1: how many hours ten thousand? Really yep? Not ten thousand
Speaker 1: and six, not N nine and forty two, Oh ten thousand,
Speaker 1: yep for everyone yep. Same yeah, expective of the skill,
Speaker 1: same ten thousand.
Speaker 3: Well, you read things like Roger Federer's you know, I
Speaker 3: mean his life story. I don't know if you know,
Speaker 3: but he would have been good no matter what sport
Speaker 3: he did. Yeah, ultimately, And that's often the case when
Speaker 3: you read into the stories of our world class athletes,
Speaker 3: is they could have been world class in any one
Speaker 3: of five six seven different sports, and it just happens
Speaker 3: to be the one that we know them by now
Speaker 3: that they ended up in.
Speaker 1: You know, and you know that people are phenomenal. Neither
Speaker 1: of you will tiff definitely one. I don't think you
Speaker 1: probably won't. But there was a guy in the I'm
Speaker 1: going to say eighties and nineties who played in the
Speaker 1: NFL and he also played in the NBL Major Baseball League.
Speaker 1: So you couldn't find two. Well, they're pretty different football
Speaker 1: and baseball. It's not like football and rugby or you know.
Speaker 1: So he played grin Dyane. He was a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: His name is Dion Sanders, and he was also are
Speaker 1: also a batter in the Major Baseball League and it
Speaker 1: was like an all star in both. Like that's that's
Speaker 1: a talent. That's a prodigy.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, both both things probably require pretty significant hand
Speaker 3: eye coordination and to be world class. You know, you're
Speaker 3: catching a ball moving at speed, traveling you know, sixty
Speaker 3: seventy yards downfield, and it's got to hit you on
Speaker 3: the chest, and you've got to hit a ball coming
Speaker 3: at you and you've got zero point three of a
Speaker 3: second to judge where it's going to be. You need
Speaker 3: world class capabilities at hand eye coordination to be in
Speaker 3: that league and people who have those capabilities are going
Speaker 3: to find a sport or the sport's going to find them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still looking. I mean, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: think I've peaked yet. I don't want anyone to make
Speaker 1: front of me. But I thought it was going to
Speaker 1: be podcasting, but it's not. What's going to say to you,
Speaker 1: I just quickly before we jump in, Malcolm glad Well
Speaker 1: that book he wrote blink right, that's right, Yes, that's right.
Speaker 1: That was an interesting book. Have you ever I think
Speaker 1: we spoke about that once, Tiff. Have you read that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I read it. That's a good book.
Speaker 1: That's a good book. That's that was that? You know?
Speaker 1: One of the stories that I think it's that book
Speaker 1: where there's this world renowned art critic, like famous, famous person,
Speaker 1: not so much critic but expert. And he went to
Speaker 1: maybe it was France, to see this painting, this very famous,
Speaker 1: famous painting that he'd never seen, and he was very
Speaker 1: excited and he walked into the room where it was
Speaker 1: on display to see it for the first time. And
Speaker 1: he walked in and he went, it's fake, straight up.
Speaker 1: And he didn't even know how he knew. But they're
Speaker 1: like what do you mean, it's definitely not fake, And
Speaker 1: then they did all this testing and straight up he
Speaker 1: knew that it was and he was right. So it's
Speaker 1: just that when people instinctively know something without even knowing
Speaker 1: why they know it, You know that that intuitive kind
Speaker 1: of insight that is kind of inexplicable to the We
Speaker 1: all do it.
Speaker 3: All the time, you know. It's what we call intuition.
Speaker 3: You know, there is such a thing as women's intuition.
Speaker 3: Women are better at it than men because they're more
Speaker 3: sensitive talsotocin, which is one of the key biochemical elements
Speaker 3: in the process. But we all perform really really tight
Speaker 3: sub second analysis. It's not even a blink, you know,
Speaker 3: it's in the tens or hundreds of milliseconds. It's incredible
Speaker 3: science on it, and there's some really good studies, particularly
Speaker 3: funny we mentioned baseball before, but in the area of
Speaker 3: baseball where there's a lot of money for this sort
Speaker 3: of thing, really good studies on Because you've got about
Speaker 3: three hundred milliseconds between the plate and the bat for
Speaker 3: a fastball, and being able to judge where and how
Speaker 3: to hit that ball in that amount of time, you've
Speaker 3: either got it or you haven't, but there's been a
Speaker 3: lot of work on understanding how we make those assessments
Speaker 3: that quickly.
Speaker 1: And another athlete that comes to mind, also not Australian, Canadian,
Speaker 1: a Canadian or American, Wayne Gretzky. Was he a Canadian
Speaker 1: or American? Canadian?
Speaker 3: Canadian ice hockey?
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, ice hockey. And he had this phenomenal
Speaker 1: ability even before the ball had been sorry, the park
Speaker 1: had been struck. There's a rhyme to know where it
Speaker 1: was going to be and when. And he would always,
Speaker 1: like they said, apart from the fact that he could
Speaker 1: skate great, hit great, and here was a great athlete,
Speaker 1: but there was more to him than that, Like he
Speaker 1: had this level of awareness, spatial awareness and timing and
Speaker 1: understanding and all this stuff that nobody had. So he
Speaker 1: was just you know, they still reckon the greatest of
Speaker 1: all time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you'll find that in common in most
Speaker 3: world class athletes. Their ability for three dimensional spatial analysis
Speaker 3: is better than the average brown bear. They can do
Speaker 3: stuff in less time than the rest of us can do.
Speaker 1: So, based on our pre podcast conversation tip, if we
Speaker 1: were in the intuition room, you'd be the smartest.
Speaker 2: There we can.
Speaker 1: You'd be winning. You'd be winning.
Speaker 3: Having more oxytocin than either of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's that, all right. The Unexpected Cure. This is
Speaker 1: David's new. If you don't follow David, what are you doing?
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Speaker 1: he wrote. I'm not going to say he because you're
Speaker 1: right there. You wrote an article called the Unexpected Cure.
Speaker 1: How a nine h century explosive holds the key to
Speaker 1: modern health. I love the byline or the subheading, from
Speaker 1: Explosives to erections A supply A surprising tale of of
Speaker 1: nitric oxide, the body's hidden messenger. Where where did the
Speaker 1: thought or idea or genesis for that particular topic come from.
Speaker 1: Surely you weren't sitting looking at your back garden and
Speaker 1: that came into your head. That must have come from
Speaker 1: an encounter or something.
Speaker 3: It's it actually came out of stuff that I'd been
Speaker 3: writing on sugar a while ago. One of the pathways
Speaker 3: by which sugar does real damage to us is by
Speaker 3: producing significant increases in uric acid. And we can go
Speaker 3: into that another day if you want. But uric acid
Speaker 3: and degrades nitric oxide. And you might say, also, what,
Speaker 3: but nitric oxide was the molecule of the year in
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety two. Who knew they had such a thing?
Speaker 1: And come on down, nit oxide, Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank I'd like to thank all the other molecules and.
Speaker 3: The people who discovered what it does in the human body.
Speaker 3: Picked up the Nobel Prize in nineteen ninety eight for medicine.
Speaker 3: And it's a really interesting molecule because it's a gas
Speaker 3: that until then everyone thought its main property was being
Speaker 3: part of smog, because it's the bit of smog that
Speaker 3: makes it look yellow. But in the human body, it's
Speaker 3: used as a messenger. And the reason it's used as
Speaker 3: a messenger is because it transmits the message then disappears
Speaker 3: because it reacts so quickly. So it's a perfect thing
Speaker 3: for the human body us as a messenger because the
Speaker 3: human body doesn't have to clean up after it, you know,
Speaker 3: it sends the message gone. Now the interesting when you
Speaker 3: read into okay, well how did we discover that? Who
Speaker 3: discovered it? What were they trying to find? And you
Speaker 3: start to find well, how did they find that bit
Speaker 3: and how did they find that bit, and you just
Speaker 3: start going all the way back in time, and that
Speaker 3: ends up in the article I wrote there, which is
Speaker 3: that it sort of starts with nitroglycerin, which is, you know,
Speaker 3: the stuff that goes bang and explosive. It was discovered
Speaker 3: discovered in the eighteen forties in France, because you know,
Speaker 3: both people who are looking for a better explosive than gunpowder.
Speaker 3: They found one. It was very very good, very very
Speaker 3: scarily good. And the chemistry found it said this is
Speaker 3: too good. I am I'm going to blow her hand
Speaker 3: off if I'm out. But someone else who was in
Speaker 3: the lab with him was a a fellow by the
Speaker 3: name of Alfred Nobel, and Alfred, Yes, the bloke who
Speaker 3: subsequently gave his name to the Nobel Prize, was an
Speaker 3: heir to an explosives fortune from Sweden. His family were
Speaker 3: big into making explosives, and he said, well, hang on, sick,
Speaker 3: this is good stuff. Yes, it's a bit dangerous and
Speaker 3: it might blow you up, but there's got to be
Speaker 3: some potential here for this. And so he decamped from
Speaker 3: the lab where it was discovered by somebody else, taking
Speaker 3: a sample with him, went back to his family's explosives
Speaker 3: factor and started mucking around. It took him a while,
Speaker 3: but by the eighteen sixties he managed to find substances
Speaker 3: that he could use to stabilize it, so he could
Speaker 3: sort of embed it in these substances, mix it together,
Speaker 3: and he patented something called dynamite and then subsequently jalig knite,
Speaker 3: and that created a massive fortune for him and his family.
Speaker 3: Suddenly gunpowder was yesterday's news. You could use dynamite to
Speaker 3: blow mountains and bridges and dig tunnels and all this
Speaker 3: sort of stuff, and it was a license to print money.
Speaker 3: So Nobel ends up rescuing his family's fortunes, being forever wealthy,
Speaker 3: and in the end donating his fortune to the Nobel Prize,
Speaker 3: which is why we have a Nobel Prize. It was
Speaker 3: created from the bloke he made dynamite. By the way, incidentally,
Speaker 3: at the end of his life he did have heart
Speaker 3: conditions that required treatment with the other use for nitroglycerin,
Speaker 3: which was producing nitric oxide. So this is a bit
Speaker 3: of a roundabout trip into this, but I found it
Speaker 3: intensely interesting, particularly where they came from the idea. They
Speaker 3: first noticed that nitroglycerin might have a health benefit by
Speaker 3: observing the people in the nitroglycerin factory in Sweden who
Speaker 3: the blokes who had angina didn't have it when they
Speaker 3: are at work during the week but did have it
Speaker 3: on the weekends because they were they're handling all the
Speaker 3: nitroglycerine and inhaling it and their angina was fine, but
Speaker 3: on the weekends they had it. Now, at the time,
Speaker 3: the treatment for angina was blood letting. It wasn't particularly effective.
Speaker 3: You know, they could actually drain blood from your body,
Speaker 3: figuring you know, blood pressure is the problem. So if
Speaker 3: we just have a little less blood flood in the body,
Speaker 3: that's right, thought of that. But anyway, so some people
Speaker 3: noticed this, Some scientists noticed this and said, hey, you know,
Speaker 3: there's a little bit like those poppers things that people
Speaker 3: are using fer angina treatment. So there was these other
Speaker 3: things that were being used at the time called animal
Speaker 3: nitrate poppers, which were sold as little glass cylinders that
Speaker 3: you broke open and they popped and you inhaled them,
Speaker 3: and they temporarily cured angina at least took the symptoms away.
Speaker 3: Now poppers, by the way, are the same poppers that
Speaker 3: still exist in nightclubs. You still you don't have things
Speaker 3: that you can break open, but it's still animal nitrate,
Speaker 3: which was because it has a hallucinatory effect as well.
Speaker 3: So anyway, slightly off topic there, some scientists said, hang on,
Speaker 3: these blokes inhaling nitroglycerin, let's look at that a little
Speaker 3: bit more carefully. So they did. They started doing studies
Speaker 3: on it. Found out this was much much better than
Speaker 3: using animal nitrate poppers, and you could just give people nitroglycerin,
Speaker 3: so they did. It took a while to convinced doctors
Speaker 3: that this was a good idea, you know, the stuff
Speaker 3: used to blow up bridges and so on being given
Speaker 3: to patients to to you know, deal with their angina.
Speaker 3: But it was working. They didn't know why it worked,
Speaker 3: but it worked fast forward a long way. Yep, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, yeah, like, because I know
Speaker 1: that one drop of nitroglycerin, I think it can blow
Speaker 1: sh it up?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Who was figuring out the dose and how was it?
Speaker 1: What was the delivery mechanism?
Speaker 3: It was sold so they put it with a stabilizing
Speaker 3: substance and sold it in little vials that you could
Speaker 3: just you could sniff, So it was it. Look, it
Speaker 3: wasn't dangerous. You weren't going to explode from the nitroglycerin
Speaker 3: they were selling medistantly. Interestingly, by the way, there was
Speaker 3: another invention in that factory where they were doing the nitroglytherin.
Speaker 3: They made them sit on one legged stools because they
Speaker 3: didn't want you're falling asleep while you're handling nitroglycerin or
Speaker 3: you'd blow the whole place up. So they invented the
Speaker 3: one legged stool, which required a lot of balance in
Speaker 3: order to work there, and so you would stay awake,
Speaker 3: which other was a stroke of genius. Anyway, off topic
Speaker 3: a little bit. They so they didn't know why it worked,
Speaker 3: but then your worked. Fast forward a little bit later
Speaker 3: on to sort of more modern times when people are
Speaker 3: starting to look at well, why is this stuff working?
Speaker 3: What is it about it that's causing this to happen?
Speaker 3: And this is where the blokes who eventually picked up
Speaker 3: the Nobel Prize for this started digging in. So in
Speaker 3: the nineteen nineties, three siders started looking at this wanted
Speaker 3: to understand what it was about nitroglycerine that was causing
Speaker 3: They found that it was releasing a gas, nitrogoxide that
Speaker 3: actually really relaxed the blood vessels and therefore loaded the
Speaker 3: blood pressure and brought about the effects that they saw
Speaker 3: in treating angina. But better than that, they found that
Speaker 3: nitrog oxide actually gets used as a much more general
Speaker 3: purpose signa in the human body and is involved in
Speaker 3: any number of processes. So it's not just about it angina.
Speaker 3: It was involved in many chronic diseases. Now at that point,
Speaker 3: early nineteen nineties, nitchrik oxide is suddenly the wonder thing,
Speaker 3: you know, the fantastic thing. Every second day someone's publishing
Speaker 3: a journal article about it. Yet another thing that nitric
Speaker 3: oxide cures or fixers in the human body. And even
Speaker 3: to this day, the amount of research being done on
Speaker 3: nitrog oxide is truly massive, because you can't turn a corner,
Speaker 3: you can't swing a dead cat without coming across another
Speaker 3: thing that nitrog oxide helps with. Now, Adviser decided to
Speaker 3: get on the bandwagon in the nineteen nineties and wanted
Speaker 3: to release a peal that they could sell to people
Speaker 3: to help with angina and heart disease and so on,
Speaker 3: based on prolonging the effect of nitric oxide. Now, what
Speaker 3: they found in the trials that they were doing with
Speaker 3: this stuff is that it didn't really work for that
Speaker 3: but there was an interesting side effect, which is that
Speaker 3: the participants tended to end up getting erections, and they thought, well,
Speaker 3: this is an odd sort of thing to do, and
Speaker 3: so they started digging into the biochemistry of that and
Speaker 3: understood that what was in fact going on is that
Speaker 3: nitric oxide promotes an erection and prolongs it. And so
Speaker 3: they thought, well, hang on, this is a much more
Speaker 3: interesting market with a lot more money to be made
Speaker 3: than yet another treatment for blood pressure or angina, and
Speaker 3: so viagra is yet another demonstration of the interesting ways
Speaker 3: that nitric oxide ends up helping in the human body.
Speaker 1: The point is me and I just point out how
Speaker 1: responsible and restrained I've been for.
Speaker 3: The last Yes, I know, I mean, Tiff had to
Speaker 3: mute you, but you know that's go on, all right.
Speaker 3: The interesting thing, and how this comes back to something
Speaker 3: that I would care about, is the effect that sugar
Speaker 3: has on nitroc oxide. So it turns out that if
Speaker 3: you really want to harm your ability to use nitric
Speaker 3: oxide in all of the thousands of ways that it's
Speaker 3: beneficial in the human body, all you've really got to
Speaker 3: do is consume a large amount of sugar. And the
Speaker 3: studies on this are pretty significant, so that the more
Speaker 3: fructose you consume, so just crash course in sugar. Of course,
Speaker 3: we'll just go back to this table. Sugar sucrose, half glucose,
Speaker 3: half fructose. The fructose half of it is really rare
Speaker 3: in our evolutionary environment because we really only had access
Speaker 3: to it in fresh fruit and honey amounted to about
Speaker 3: two teaspoons worth of sugar per person per day to
Speaker 3: about seventeen hundred. We still get about that amount to
Speaker 3: teaspoons per person per day from fresh fruit and honey,
Speaker 3: but we now also get about forty tea spoons per
Speaker 3: day from cane sugar, so we've massively increased the amount
Speaker 3: of fractose we're consuming. Fructose is converted to uric acid
Speaker 3: by the liver. Uric acid denahes and destroys the effect
Speaker 3: of nitric oxide, which has a cascade effect through everything
Speaker 3: we do, so heart disease. Nitrog oxide keeps our blood
Speaker 3: vessels reacted and blood pressure and check if we impair
Speaker 3: nitric oxide production, we have constricted blood prestles, which is
Speaker 3: why you know more than half of everyone over fifties
Speaker 3: on blood pressure medication, because blood pressure is now the
Speaker 3: chronic disease of our age, and that's probably largely down
Speaker 3: to the fact that everyone's ingesting truly huge quantities of sugar.
Speaker 3: So disabling nitrog oxide gives you heart disease, involved in
Speaker 3: the pathways for diabetes, it's involved in the pathways for
Speaker 3: kidney disease, it's involved in the pathways for ab city,
Speaker 3: and of course erectile this function just to name the
Speaker 3: big hits. So there's one little molecule. Nitric Oxide is
Speaker 3: involved in a lot of the things that stop us
Speaker 3: suffering significant chronic disease, and we are disabling it by
Speaker 3: consuming sugar and seed oils. But we can talk about
Speaker 3: that another day if you're interested. Seed oils also have
Speaker 3: a disabling effect, but sugar is the big one. Now,
Speaker 3: if you're wondering, okay, well good, well, I'm not eating sugar,
Speaker 3: but how do I get more nitroc oxide? How do
Speaker 3: I prolong things? Do I have to mainline viagra?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: You don't, you want more nitioroxide? Eat garlic. Garlic is
Speaker 3: a superfood when it comes to nitric oxide. Other things
Speaker 3: like you know, the classic leafy greens, but in particular
Speaker 3: rocket letter excellent sources of nitric oxide. So if you've
Speaker 3: eliminated the sugar and the seed oil, and you're thinking,
Speaker 3: I still want even more nitric oxide. Then you make
Speaker 3: yourself up a pesto of garlic and rocket. I guess
Speaker 3: it'll get you there. So, and this is an important thing.
Speaker 3: You can't have too much nitrog oxide. Your body's capacity
Speaker 3: to use it for good is virtually unlimited. And it's
Speaker 3: something that yes, you could start with the idea, well,
Speaker 3: I just want to at least be back down to
Speaker 3: normal operational capability, eliminate sugar and seed oils. But if
Speaker 3: you really want to take that extra step, then incorporate
Speaker 3: leafy greens. Garlic. Beetroot, interestingly is another good source, and
Speaker 3: pomegranate another good source of it as well. So incorporate
Speaker 3: those things into your diet and you're amping it up
Speaker 3: even more.
Speaker 1: I need to eat garlic. I love garlic, but garlic
Speaker 1: doesn't love me. Maybe I need to eat it raw,
Speaker 1: So that's not all.
Speaker 3: I just do what I do, which is just take
Speaker 3: it as a tablet. Yeah, I mean, there are lots
Speaker 3: of good reasons to consume garlic that have nothing to
Speaker 3: do with nitrogo oxide. Although that's another good reason to
Speaker 3: take it you know.
Speaker 1: What one do you take? Sorry to be rude, I
Speaker 1: haven't got.
Speaker 3: It in front of me, so I can't remember the brand.
Speaker 3: It's just how many. I'm a milligram?
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you take? And know everyone, this ain't
Speaker 1: this ain't for you, but this is just what David does.
Speaker 1: Ten thousand milligrams. So you have one of them a day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless I feel a sickness coming on, like a
Speaker 3: cold or something, then I might amp it up and
Speaker 3: have two or three of them.
Speaker 1: If you eat garlic, like as in eat it in
Speaker 1: your diet, yeah, I it a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love garlic.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: See, a lot of the benefits of the Mediterranean diet
Speaker 3: may well just be down to the fact that they
Speaker 3: put garlic in everything. It's anti viral properties are really significant,
Speaker 3: and and for that alone it's a good thing to
Speaker 3: be having on the regular. But adding its effect on
Speaker 3: nitrioxide as long as you've first of all deleted the
Speaker 3: sugar and the seed oils, and that's yet another reason
Speaker 3: to be taking garlic.
Speaker 1: It's like we keep finding out more bad shit about sugar.
Speaker 1: I mean, we know that sugar is not bad, I
Speaker 1: mean not good, but sorry, we know it's No, I
Speaker 1: don't need any sugar. I don't even like sugar much. Rather,
Speaker 1: I like savory shit. I don't like sweet shit. But like,
Speaker 1: we just keep finding out more and more things that
Speaker 1: it destroys and fucks up.
Speaker 3: Well, that's because we aren't evolved to deal with it.
Speaker 3: So fructose is a fairly rare thing in our involved environment.
Speaker 3: And whenever there's something that's rare in our involved environment
Speaker 3: that is now a significant part of our diet, we
Speaker 3: are likely to have serious problems with it. This is
Speaker 3: why seed oils are a problem. Amiga six was rare
Speaker 3: in our evolved environment. We're getting maybe one and a
Speaker 3: half to three grams a day of it, But to
Speaker 3: be now getting twelve, fifteen, twenty grams a day of
Speaker 3: it that you're going to expect is going to cause
Speaker 3: problems because evolution didn't set us up for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah wow.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 1: I guess for people with like and this is not
Speaker 1: a prescription either, but people with heart stuff, whacking a
Speaker 1: bit of extra garlic in the diet it's not going
Speaker 1: to hurt.
Speaker 3: Is it? Well? I think in general, whacking a bit
Speaker 3: of extra garlic in the diet is not going to hurt.
Speaker 3: I mean, even if all you want to do is
Speaker 3: get rid of some warts. You know, one of the
Speaker 3: one of the viral infections that the garlic has been
Speaker 3: proven to remove warts.
Speaker 1: Wow? Wow, like what like tuitaneous warts like the ones
Speaker 1: that kids get on adults as well? Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm excited to talk to you next or
Speaker 1: not next week, but next time, because you're talking about
Speaker 1: a topic that's close to our hearts, which is creat
Speaker 1: scene here at the U Project, because Tiff and I
Speaker 1: both consume it, and it's going to be some good news.
Speaker 1: But not all good news, am I right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, not everything it's it's touted to do is panning out,
Speaker 3: but certainly some of the things it's touted to do
Speaker 3: are very effective.
Speaker 1: MM. Tell people how they can find your articles again, mate,
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Speaker 1: And if you can't find him there, find him on LinkedIn.
Speaker 1: Just go Glespo high hope Lesbo. Mate as always fascinating.
Speaker 1: We'll say goodbye fair but thank
Speaker 3: You again, Absolute pleasure,