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Speaker 1: I get a team. I hope you Blady Gray. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another installing the show. We were just banging on

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Speaker 1: Tiff and David and I. We're talking about we'll get

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Speaker 1: to the topic at hand, but we're talking about Tiss

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Speaker 1: fledgling piano career. Which how is it going? Before we

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Speaker 1: talk to the man?

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Speaker 2: It's going great, it's going great. It's very hard. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot to learn.

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Speaker 1: How many days are you into your piano career? Now?

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Speaker 2: It was two weeks on Sunday since I brought her home.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she.

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Speaker 1: Has a gender your keyboard. That's good, and so two

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Speaker 1: weeks Sunday, So it's like seventeen days now. Yeah, what's it?

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Speaker 1: Because the excitement level was fifteen about two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what's good? What's good is the way

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Speaker 2: it feels that I link it with this. I guess

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Speaker 2: the science of learning boxing is. I'm obsessed with doing

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Speaker 2: on the ship that most people complain about. I'll sit

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Speaker 2: and do scal I'm like, what should I practice to

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Speaker 2: be good? And I'll just do him and do him

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Speaker 2: and do him and do him because I know what

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Speaker 2: doing it and doing it and doing it results in.

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Speaker 2: When you're just trying to learn to throw one punch,

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Speaker 2: and I've got eighty eight bloody keys to memorize.

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Speaker 3: I was going to.

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Speaker 1: Ask, as stupidly when the public might get to see you,

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Speaker 1: But the public's been seeing you from about day two,

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Speaker 1: you shy little wallflower.

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Speaker 3: Day one.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes in I played a little tune and put

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Speaker 1: Do you reckon? Let's before we ask alesbo do you

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Speaker 1: reckon his kick and play an instrument? What's your yes?

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Speaker 1: Or no? I bet he can? I bet he played

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Speaker 1: something when he was a kid. Probably pick I reckon?

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Speaker 2: He played a wind instrument?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I am a wind instrument, giless bow? Did you hi?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 1: Did you play any kind of instruments? Or maybe you

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Speaker 1: still do?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: I did very much against my will. I was. I

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Speaker 3: was forced to learn piano all through primary school, and

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Speaker 3: then I was forced to play a win wind instrument

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Speaker 3: right at high school. It was a tuba, which which

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Speaker 3: was great because I was really really bad at it

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Speaker 3: and it didn't matter when all you had to do

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Speaker 1: Well, was your mum trying to make you a social outcast?

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the tuba.

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Speaker 3: Players I know she didn't get a choice. It was

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Speaker 3: the school. The school decided that's what I was going

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Speaker 3: to be doing. I think it was down to the

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Speaker 3: fact that they had a tuba and no one to

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Speaker 1: And you had particularly big cheeks.

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Speaker 3: No, I think it was that I had to do

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Speaker 3: an extracurricular activity and they put me down for that.

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Speaker 1: Come so sad that your tuber career didn't take off?

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Speaker 1: Now we have not How good did you get on that?

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Speaker 1: You couldn't You probably never got tips level on the piano.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I started appalling and ended appalling, and

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Speaker 3: that's just fine by me. I Actually some of my

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Speaker 3: kids have ended up being extremely talented musicians. But it's

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Speaker 3: skipt A generator. And my father was too, but it's

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Speaker 1: Do you do you think though that like maybe if

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Speaker 1: you loved it like you hated it, right, so you're

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Speaker 1: never going to be good at it because you're never

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Speaker 1: going to be passionate about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, adam being tone deaf, you know it. But you know,

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Speaker 3: my family will listen to a great piece of music

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Speaker 3: and they'll be, you know, in raptures about how good

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Speaker 3: it is, and to me it all just sounds the same.

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Speaker 1: Really, that's so weird. There's not many people that you

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Speaker 1: meet TIV that don't like music like they might like

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Speaker 1: a different genre, but so you don't. Really you're not

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Speaker 1: a fan of any band or any particular act or singer.

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Speaker 3: I know I like ac DC, but I think them

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Speaker 3: and music probably aren't necessary barely spoken in the same sentence.

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Speaker 1: Come on, bro, don't be sacriligious. That is that is sure,

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Speaker 1: there's a loose connection. Yeah, I saw I last saw them.

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Speaker 1: about thirty years rip. Yeah, Brian Johnson pulled the pin

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Speaker 1: because he's I think his voice is fucked. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know that they're actually in existence anymore, but they

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Speaker 1: gave it a good crack for about forty years, I reckon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they have some real bangers. But they are bangers.

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Speaker 3: There's you know, you don't have to not be toned

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Speaker 1: Well, they're no Tiff Cook, who's playing Vivaldi in Tchaikowski

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Speaker 1: and Mozart and Brahms on a regular basis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well she's proving that whole ten thousand hour

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Speaker 3: thing that Malcolm glad will popular I wanted to do something, Well,

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Speaker 3: then you've got to put ten thousand hours into.

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Speaker 1: We've also spoken about the idea that you know somebody

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Speaker 1: that like when you you know Tiger Woods or the

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Speaker 1: william sisters, like they both started very very young and

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Speaker 1: and they were you know, prodigies, and then they were

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Speaker 1: world champions and all of these people, we think, what

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Speaker 1: if they never were in the proximity of that thing,

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Speaker 1: that they became the best in the world at Like

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Speaker 1: you one of those people that like maybe if Tiff

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Speaker 1: started when she was three, she'd just be an internationally

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Speaker 3: Well, there's no reason she can't be anyway. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't subscribe much to the ten thousand hour theory,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think complad Well does now either. I

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Speaker 3: think it became a lot bigger than he thought it

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Speaker 3: would be. I think it's more a function of focus.

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Speaker 3: When you are focused to the level you would need

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Speaker 3: a hyperactive state where it's laying down connections and memories

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Speaker 3: at a speed and frequency that you just can't do

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Speaker 3: get very very good at it, you know, whether you're

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Speaker 1: I always worry about science. That's you know, when we go, oh,

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Speaker 1: how many hours ten thousand? Really yep? Not ten thousand

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Speaker 3: Well, you read things like Roger Federer's you know, I

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Speaker 3: mean his life story. I don't know if you know,

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Speaker 3: but he would have been good no matter what sport

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Speaker 3: he did. Yeah, ultimately, And that's often the case when

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Speaker 3: you read into the stories of our world class athletes,

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Speaker 3: is they could have been world class in any one

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Speaker 1: You know, and you know that people are phenomenal. Neither

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Speaker 1: of you will tiff definitely one. I don't think you

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Speaker 1: going to say eighties and nineties who played in the

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Speaker 1: NFL and he also played in the NBL Major Baseball League.

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Speaker 1: So you couldn't find two. Well, they're pretty different football

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Speaker 1: So he played grin Dyane. He was a wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, both both things probably require pretty significant hand

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Speaker 3: second to judge where it's going to be. You need

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Speaker 3: that league and people who have those capabilities are going

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Speaker 3: to find a sport or the sport's going to find them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still looking. I mean, I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: think I've peaked yet. I don't want anyone to make

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Speaker 1: be podcasting, but it's not. What's going to say to you,

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Speaker 1: I just quickly before we jump in, Malcolm glad Well

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Speaker 1: that book he wrote blink right, that's right, Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 1: That was an interesting book. Have you ever I think

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Speaker 1: we spoke about that once, Tiff. Have you read that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I read it. That's a good book.

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Speaker 1: That's a good book. That's that was that? You know?

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Speaker 1: One of the stories that I think it's that book

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Speaker 1: And he didn't even know how he knew. But they're

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Speaker 1: like what do you mean, it's definitely not fake, And

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Speaker 1: just that when people instinctively know something without even knowing

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Speaker 3: All the time, you know. It's what we call intuition.

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Speaker 3: You know, there is such a thing as women's intuition.

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Speaker 3: in the process. But we all perform really really tight

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Speaker 3: science on it, and there's some really good studies, particularly

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Speaker 3: either got it or you haven't, but there's been a

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Speaker 3: lot of work on understanding how we make those assessments

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Speaker 1: And another athlete that comes to mind, also not Australian, Canadian,

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, ice hockey. And he had this phenomenal

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Speaker 3: chronic disease of our age, and that's probably largely down

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Speaker 3: to the fact that everyone's ingesting truly huge quantities of sugar.

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Speaker 3: So disabling nitrog oxide gives you heart disease, involved in

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Speaker 3: the pathways for diabetes, it's involved in the pathways for

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Speaker 3: kidney disease, it's involved in the pathways for ab city,

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Speaker 3: and of course erectile this function just to name the

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Speaker 3: big hits. So there's one little molecule. Nitric Oxide is

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Speaker 3: involved in a lot of the things that stop us

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Speaker 3: suffering significant chronic disease, and we are disabling it by

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Speaker 3: consuming sugar and seed oils. But we can talk about

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Speaker 3: that another day if you're interested. Seed oils also have

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Speaker 3: a disabling effect, but sugar is the big one. Now,

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Speaker 3: if you're wondering, okay, well good, well, I'm not eating sugar,

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Speaker 3: but how do I get more nitroc oxide? How do

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Speaker 3: I prolong things? Do I have to mainline viagra?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: You don't, you want more nitioroxide? Eat garlic. Garlic is

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Speaker 3: a superfood when it comes to nitric oxide. Other things

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Speaker 3: like you know, the classic leafy greens, but in particular

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Speaker 3: rocket letter excellent sources of nitric oxide. So if you've

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Speaker 3: eliminated the sugar and the seed oil, and you're thinking,

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Speaker 3: I still want even more nitric oxide. Then you make

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Speaker 3: yourself up a pesto of garlic and rocket. I guess

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Speaker 3: it'll get you there. So, and this is an important thing.

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Speaker 3: You can't have too much nitrog oxide. Your body's capacity

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Speaker 3: to use it for good is virtually unlimited. And it's

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Speaker 3: something that yes, you could start with the idea, well,

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Speaker 3: I just want to at least be back down to

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Speaker 3: normal operational capability, eliminate sugar and seed oils. But if

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Speaker 3: you really want to take that extra step, then incorporate

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Speaker 3: leafy greens. Garlic. Beetroot, interestingly is another good source, and

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Speaker 3: pomegranate another good source of it as well. So incorporate

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Speaker 3: those things into your diet and you're amping it up

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Speaker 3: even more.

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Speaker 1: I need to eat garlic. I love garlic, but garlic

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Speaker 1: doesn't love me. Maybe I need to eat it raw,

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Speaker 1: So that's not all.

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Speaker 3: I just do what I do, which is just take

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Speaker 3: it as a tablet. Yeah, I mean, there are lots

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Speaker 3: of good reasons to consume garlic that have nothing to

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Speaker 3: do with nitrogo oxide. Although that's another good reason to

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Speaker 3: take it you know.

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Speaker 1: What one do you take? Sorry to be rude, I

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Speaker 1: haven't got.

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Speaker 3: It in front of me, so I can't remember the brand.

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Speaker 3: It's just how many. I'm a milligram?

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Speaker 1: Okay, what do you take? And know everyone, this ain't

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Speaker 1: this ain't for you, but this is just what David does.

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Speaker 1: Ten thousand milligrams. So you have one of them a day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unless I feel a sickness coming on, like a

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Speaker 3: cold or something, then I might amp it up and

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Speaker 3: have two or three of them.

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Speaker 1: If you eat garlic, like as in eat it in

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Speaker 1: your diet, yeah, I it a bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love garlic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See, a lot of the benefits of the Mediterranean diet

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Speaker 3: may well just be down to the fact that they

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Speaker 3: put garlic in everything. It's anti viral properties are really significant,

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Speaker 3: and and for that alone it's a good thing to

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Speaker 3: be having on the regular. But adding its effect on

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Speaker 3: nitrioxide as long as you've first of all deleted the

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Speaker 3: sugar and the seed oils, and that's yet another reason

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Speaker 3: to be taking garlic.

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Speaker 1: It's like we keep finding out more bad shit about sugar.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we know that sugar is not bad, I

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Speaker 1: mean not good, but sorry, we know it's No, I

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Speaker 1: don't need any sugar. I don't even like sugar much. Rather,

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Speaker 1: I like savory shit. I don't like sweet shit. But like,

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Speaker 1: we just keep finding out more and more things that

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Speaker 1: it destroys and fucks up.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's because we aren't evolved to deal with it.

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Speaker 3: So fructose is a fairly rare thing in our involved environment.

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Speaker 3: And whenever there's something that's rare in our involved environment

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Speaker 3: that is now a significant part of our diet, we

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Speaker 3: are likely to have serious problems with it. This is

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Speaker 3: why seed oils are a problem. Amiga six was rare

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Speaker 3: in our evolved environment. We're getting maybe one and a

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Speaker 3: half to three grams a day of it, But to

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Speaker 3: be now getting twelve, fifteen, twenty grams a day of

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Speaker 3: it that you're going to expect is going to cause

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Speaker 3: problems because evolution didn't set us up for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah wow.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 1: I guess for people with like and this is not

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Speaker 1: a prescription either, but people with heart stuff, whacking a

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Speaker 1: bit of extra garlic in the diet it's not going

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Speaker 1: to hurt.

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Speaker 3: Is it? Well? I think in general, whacking a bit

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Speaker 3: of extra garlic in the diet is not going to hurt.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even if all you want to do is

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Speaker 3: get rid of some warts. You know, one of the

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Speaker 3: one of the viral infections that the garlic has been

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Speaker 3: proven to remove warts.

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Speaker 1: Wow? Wow, like what like tuitaneous warts like the ones

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Speaker 1: that kids get on adults as well? Wow, that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm excited to talk to you next or

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Speaker 1: not next week, but next time, because you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a topic that's close to our hearts, which is creat

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Speaker 1: scene here at the U Project, because Tiff and I

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Speaker 1: both consume it, and it's going to be some good news.

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Speaker 1: But not all good news, am I right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, not everything it's it's touted to do is panning out,

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Speaker 3: but certainly some of the things it's touted to do

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Speaker 3: are very effective.

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Speaker 1: MM. Tell people how they can find your articles again, mate,

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Speaker 1: so they can follow.

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Speaker 3: So Facebook, all go to substract and check me out there.

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Speaker 3: If you can't find me on substact, then find me

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Speaker 3: on Facebook and you'll find articles posted there that linked

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Speaker 3: to substact.

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Speaker 1: And if you can't find him there, find him on LinkedIn.

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Speaker 1: Just go Glespo high hope Lesbo. Mate as always fascinating.

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Speaker 1: We'll say goodbye fair but thank

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Speaker 3: You again, Absolute pleasure,