Speaker 1: It's so funny because Michael was like obviously lead singer
Speaker 1: in a band, had like long hair, he had a
Speaker 1: lip ring. He looks like so different.
Speaker 2: It looks like panic at the disco. Literally, that's fall
Speaker 2: out boy. No, we can't sing songs. We've got to
Speaker 2: pay royalties on this.
Speaker 1: Where's Your Head At? Is a podcast that talks full
Speaker 1: things right, Hold on a sec, let's give this a refresh. Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm Anna.
Speaker 2: And I'm Matt, and we are now too newlywed not
Speaker 2: to each other. Just a female and male best friend
Speaker 2: here for the good, the bad, and the ugly times.
Speaker 1: And exploring adulthood, family relationships, dilemmas.
Speaker 2: And whatever else we have the mental capacity to deal with.
Speaker 1: Come get the lowdown.
Speaker 2: This is your male and female perspective.
Speaker 1: So, Matt, where's your head At?
Speaker 2: Good morning morning?
Speaker 1: How are you feeling today?
Speaker 2: I'm good. We're in for our last bulk record before
Speaker 2: you take your maternity leave.
Speaker 1: No, i'm single today. The rings are officially off my fingers.
Speaker 1: My fingers, I actually have really long, skinny figures. I
Speaker 1: feel like my fingers probably just look like a normal
Speaker 1: person's hands.
Speaker 2: Now, do you think it could be a hand model?
Speaker 1: Could I have a hand model. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you think I could be.
Speaker 2: A hand model?
Speaker 1: I'm asking you, are you trying to give me a
Speaker 1: compliment here or what? He's looking at his own hands.
Speaker 2: He's like, no, but I could be man's kna he
Speaker 2: was for a bit. I'm listening to his book still, Oh.
Speaker 1: You love you love a bit of Matthew mcut.
Speaker 2: I know I do. He was a hand model.
Speaker 1: Is it like self help?
Speaker 2: I might have touched on this before. He says stuff
Speaker 2: that has happened to him, and then he says green light,
Speaker 2: and then he says like it's a green light, like
Speaker 2: that's a go sign, like he goes. You know, I
Speaker 2: spoke to this the producer, and he said blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: green light. And then I I guess in the format
Speaker 2: of a book, when it's written out, it looks better.
Speaker 2: But when he says that, it's sort of right.
Speaker 1: Today, I'm officially thirty six weeks pregnant.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Thank you.
Speaker 1: It's been a long journey. I feel like I wake
Speaker 1: up in the morning and my whole body is in pain.
Speaker 2: Like you just run a marathon or something like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: just serious workout, which I've never had.
Speaker 1: That. No, it's honestly so painful, like the hips, the
Speaker 1: inner thighs, like it's genuinely like I'm on a treadmill
Speaker 1: all night and then i wake up and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was hard training.
Speaker 2: Respect, you're carrying a child, you're carrying wife. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a tough gig that you've got there.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't say another s name. I was
Speaker 1: waiting for it.
Speaker 2: Ah, okay, I was actually over the weekend thought of
Speaker 2: a bunch of them. But now I've forgotten write and
Speaker 2: still no.
Speaker 1: One's got the name. How crazy is that?
Speaker 2: It's so obscure of Sammy Boy. Obscure Sammy boy? How
Speaker 2: was your weekend? So?
Speaker 1: I went to the Loom the Van Go exhibition in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: Here is that?
Speaker 1: It's actually really cool?
Speaker 2: Where is it? Is it at the Yeah? Okay, I've
Speaker 2: walked past it before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty cool. Like there's it's basically this huge
Speaker 1: room with all of these lights and his artwork kind
Speaker 1: of projected throughout the whole space. I'm sure you've seen photos.
Speaker 1: It's pretty epic, and then there's little areas.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like I have it feels
Speaker 2: very familiar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there's like little spaces where you can
Speaker 1: do like different kind of projects or like artworks. Like
Speaker 1: one room there was all of these art kind of
Speaker 1: I don't even know what they're called, Like you know
Speaker 1: how they have those art things set up with the
Speaker 1: chair and then you would go there and paint or whatever.
Speaker 1: It like teaches you how to draw anyway. So basically
Speaker 1: like every was like sitting down in little rows and
Speaker 1: like drawing, which was really cute. We drew a bedroom,
Speaker 1: which was I think one of his pieces was so bad.
Speaker 1: I'll put it on the Where's your Head at group
Speaker 1: because it's actually like embarrassingly that you're going to be
Speaker 1: you're going to die. Michael was really good. He was unreal.
Speaker 1: He was doing like the full like.
Speaker 2: You know when you draw and you Drawing to me
Speaker 2: has never been a skill, has never been something that
Speaker 2: I have thought about doing. Drawing to me was just
Speaker 2: always so. I remember in like wood Tech in year
Speaker 2: nine and year eight, you know, he had to draw
Speaker 2: those proper drawings, the measurements. I would in class just
Speaker 2: sit there like pretending to draw, and then I'd take
Speaker 2: it back home and I'd say, hey, Dad, and get
Speaker 2: my dad to draw it and then I'd bring it
Speaker 2: in the next class and yeah, he's awesome. He knows
Speaker 2: exactly because my dad's good. I had all the architects
Speaker 2: sort of stuff drawing, and I just yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there's a difference between Like the difference between
Speaker 1: Michael and I is that like he was doing the
Speaker 1: shading to draw a line, you know how you like
Speaker 1: shaved down the line, and minds was like from like
Speaker 1: point one straight down to point two. Like I wasn't
Speaker 1: looking Like.
Speaker 2: Have you done the thing with Michael where you have
Speaker 2: to paint a bit and you get like time and
Speaker 2: you have to paint and then you swap over and
Speaker 2: you pass it and you're painting a picture. No, I
Speaker 2: did that. So it was like a TikTok thing where
Speaker 2: you get a blank canvas and you paint and then
Speaker 2: you pass it to your partner and then you keep
Speaker 2: switching it over.
Speaker 1: Well you did it like a like a duel painting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you add something to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael probably wouldn't want to do that with me,
Speaker 1: and I'd ruin it.
Speaker 2: It was pretty funny, Like it was originally like flowers
Speaker 2: and I drew like bugs, coming out of the thing.
Speaker 1: It's fun, it's it sounds good. I mean, I'm like
Speaker 1: so into arts and crafts. I think like a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago I got into adult drawing because obviously
Speaker 1: I'm big into meditation and mindfulness and reducing anxiety. And
Speaker 1: someone said that adult coloring in is like so good
Speaker 1: for this calming the mind because you just focus in
Speaker 1: all of your energy on adult coloring.
Speaker 2: So when we were in before we went into the
Speaker 2: villa in Love Island, when we were locked into our
Speaker 2: hotel room for seven days.
Speaker 1: You were coloring.
Speaker 2: I brought a coloring book and Texas. It was a
Speaker 2: Marvel one and I was coloring in Avengers.
Speaker 1: That's really cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what do you normally do You sit on
Speaker 2: your phone so you couldn't.
Speaker 1: Be on movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched movies. I watched like fucking I Reckon
Speaker 2: thirty something movies I would have watch.
Speaker 1: Did that much adult coloring?
Speaker 2: Well I did. I did a lot, I feel I remember.
Speaker 2: I remember I was like sitting there while watching the
Speaker 2: movies coloring it in. Apparently I was the easiest one
Speaker 2: to deal with my chaperone and told me really because
Speaker 2: I just did not care I just sat there just.
Speaker 1: Like I think I was one of the hardest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I only they had a double eye on me. Were
Speaker 1: you talking about laugh Island?
Speaker 2: Well, I had. I had another person in my hotel
Speaker 2: on the other side, so we would have to like
Speaker 2: they would have to chat when I was allowed to leave.
Speaker 2: Apparently other people like demanding what time they left, and
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, whatever time, I'll go eat whenever,
Speaker 2: I'll go for exors. Yeah. I wasn't like I was
Speaker 2: just chill ours.
Speaker 1: I was more like trying to like sneak out or
Speaker 1: like to.
Speaker 2: Do what in Fiji? What were you going to do?
Speaker 1: Just be free, not be stuck in a room. I
Speaker 1: honestly hate authority, Like I hate the rules. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I like to break the rules. Cool cat, I'm just
Speaker 1: an adult.
Speaker 2: I just sat there adult, coloring and watching the American football.
Speaker 2: That's like, yes, sir, yeah, like cool as I have
Speaker 2: nothing like this is what I'd be doing anyway. He
Speaker 2: is everything ready to go for old arms Scoop.
Speaker 1: Scoop Scoop. That's probably one of the most stoopy with
Speaker 1: Snoopy Snoop Dog Snoopy.
Speaker 2: Are you ready for old Snoopy's birth. Is everything ready
Speaker 2: we are?
Speaker 1: We have to still build the prem We need to
Speaker 1: get a car seat and then pretty much everything on.
Speaker 1: I need to get like a baby holder.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, so you're really you're on the home stretch.
Speaker 2: Now do you have it to go back? Do you
Speaker 2: have it to go back for the hospital?
Speaker 1: I have a baby. Yeah, I have a hospital bag.
Speaker 1: I have a baby bag. I have a nappy caddy.
Speaker 1: Do you know what that is? No, I'm surprised pretty
Speaker 1: much know everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah I do. No, I guess I gets a nappy bag. No.
Speaker 2: Nappy caddy is where you set them up on the
Speaker 2: nappy changing table.
Speaker 1: No. I thought it was like it's like kind of
Speaker 1: like a bag, open bag and it's got all the
Speaker 1: nappies in it. So I'm putting it in the back
Speaker 1: of the car so i can change him in the
Speaker 1: back of the car.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's why everyone does change it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm not like breaking your ground.
Speaker 2: No, it's definitely where posy stuff changed, posy snapping in
Speaker 2: the back of the car before. Definitely.
Speaker 1: Also, Matt, this time last year, I was a week
Speaker 1: off of heading to Grease to get married to Michael.
Speaker 2: Is that a year ago?
Speaker 1: A year ago. Can you believe that time like literally
Speaker 1: goes so fast you blink.
Speaker 2: And nah, that's scary.
Speaker 1: That is scary because I remember being there like it
Speaker 1: was yesterday.
Speaker 2: Same. No, that is scary that I honestly feels like yesterday.
Speaker 2: I was like we were traveling to Corfu, we were
Speaker 2: even getting there. Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because Michael and I obviously we got
Speaker 1: legally married a month earlier.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, And so we've been kind of debating what anniversary
Speaker 1: all of them, all of them, Well, we didn't do
Speaker 1: the legal one, all of them. We didn't do the
Speaker 1: legal one because it was very close to my birthday.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean celebrating them. Just have a glass of
Speaker 2: champagne for it, or a bottle of champagne. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: well you know what I mean, Like I know, you
Speaker 2: have like just like a dinner or something to acknowledge it.
Speaker 2: When I say celebrated, I don't mean throwing a party
Speaker 2: like you know, I don't mean like, I just mean
Speaker 2: like acknowledging it, like.
Speaker 1: Acknowledging everything that we acknowledged it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's something that I like in a relationship.
Speaker 2: It's just to acknowledge all those little things, all the
Speaker 2: little little moments they count because in the grand scheme
Speaker 2: of things, that's all you've got.
Speaker 1: It was pretty cute. Both of our parents actually sent
Speaker 1: us a message and there happy legal marriage today or
Speaker 1: wedding day. But yeah, we didn't like officially celebrate it.
Speaker 1: But we will be celebrating the Greek wedding, our Greek wedding.
Speaker 1: But it's so close to the baby's arrival, so maybe
Speaker 1: we won't be celebrating. Is mainly what I was getting at.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I'll tell you what you do. Just just
Speaker 2: all right and just enjoy it, just have something nice, cute,
Speaker 2: like I was, just acknowledge it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's funny because like you think, like
Speaker 1: it's weird when you're in a relationship and you've been
Speaker 1: in a relationship with someone for let's say three or
Speaker 1: four years, and then you get married, and then it's
Speaker 1: like you have to start from square one, not to
Speaker 1: start from scure one. But it's like one year acknowledged.
Speaker 2: Like I've said before, I will acknowledge the date we met,
Speaker 2: the date we said up.
Speaker 1: You can be doing a lot of celebrating in your life,
Speaker 1: but I think that's the I think that's something sweet.
Speaker 2: That's my opinion. I'm a sentimental gar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of like, to be honest, there's a
Speaker 1: part of me that's like, I want to book a
Speaker 1: holiday when the baby's four months old, just celebrate. I
Speaker 1: don't know where to. I would personally love to go
Speaker 1: back to grew So I don't know if that's maybe
Speaker 1: just completely out of tune with what it's going to
Speaker 1: take to have a baby.
Speaker 2: Rights the audience. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, guys, if you were a mom listening
Speaker 1: to this when it was the earliest that you traveled
Speaker 1: with a baby is what I want to know.
Speaker 2: And I was relaxing over the weekend and you sent
Speaker 2: me a photo of a photo, So I'm assuming this
Speaker 2: is you charged up by I look at things your
Speaker 2: old phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I charged up my old phone because I'm currently
Speaker 1: going through this super annoying phase where I'm trying to
Speaker 1: change my name from Anna McAvoy to Anna Staples. So
Speaker 1: I was looking through my old phone because it has
Speaker 1: my old email in it, and then I'm not very
Speaker 1: good at admin, as we know. So then Michael started
Speaker 1: doing that and I started looking through old photos and
Speaker 1: I came across.
Speaker 2: This is a photo of This is the first ever
Speaker 2: photo taken of Anna and myself featured date back to
Speaker 2: I Reckon two thousand and fifteen.
Speaker 1: Do you reckon? We were at the Maya Catwalk and
Speaker 1: we had a break in the middle of the day.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 1: Ye, And then we all went to like a bar,
Speaker 1: a four hour break or something before the night show.
Speaker 2: Unrecognizable both of us, to the point where I actually asked,
Speaker 2: So I sent the photo to Matt, why is your
Speaker 2: eyeliner so thick?
Speaker 1: Dude? It was a Maya Catwalk show. It's not something
Speaker 1: that I did. There was a makeup to the point. Okay,
Speaker 1: So there's a photo of Matt and I. It's first
Speaker 1: ever photo that we've.
Speaker 2: Taken to it's a group selfie.
Speaker 1: It's a group selfie with like a few of the
Speaker 1: other models. It's mainly me and you.
Speaker 2: It is mainly us. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then I literally said to Matt, is that you?
Speaker 1: Because that's how unrecognizable you look.
Speaker 2: Man, I am a in that photo. That's yeah, that's
Speaker 2: that is ten years old.
Speaker 1: And I'm wrapping the brunette hair you are.
Speaker 2: Look at my phone? How small was the iPhone back then.
Speaker 1: Your hand is bigger than the phone.
Speaker 2: We'll put this on the Instagram and the Facebook page.
Speaker 2: That is a hilarious photo.
Speaker 1: It's a photo we didn't even know that we had.
Speaker 1: So the fact that I have somehow found this amazing.
Speaker 1: I tried to send it to myself.
Speaker 2: Didn't work. Nice phone. Okay, so it doesn't air drop
Speaker 2: or anything. You can't I message it or anything off there.
Speaker 1: I mean to go back and find that photo I
Speaker 1: was deep in, that was deep in photos. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I could, or I probably could, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if I have the mental whilst pregnant. But
Speaker 1: we will put the photo of the photo on our
Speaker 1: Facebook page, maybe on our Instagram as well, and you
Speaker 1: guys can have a laugh because it's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: It's very funny.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's jump into today's episode.
Speaker 2: We Love Theories here, where's your header? And I don't we.
Speaker 1: Love a theory conspiracy theories?
Speaker 2: No, we're not that sort of podcast, not yet, not yet,
Speaker 2: not ever. I was thinking about going and hunting for
Speaker 2: the panther, not hunting panther. Currently in like Ballarat and
Speaker 2: around the outskirts of Victoria, there's a black panther that
Speaker 2: roams around. I'm not going to hunt him to kill him,
Speaker 2: but I want to hunt him to find him and
Speaker 2: report back. I was thinking about doing.
Speaker 1: And you believe that.
Speaker 2: I don't not believe it.
Speaker 1: What makes you believe it?
Speaker 2: There's been sightings of a big.
Speaker 1: There's insightings of the Lockness Monster in Scotland. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean he's real.
Speaker 2: That's your theory. I think Lockheest monsters. We're not a
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory podcast. Let's move one. We love theories though.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe the Locknest months who does exist? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I've been in that lake on a little
Speaker 1: tiny boat and I was thinking, well, if this is
Speaker 1: this thing's real fun.
Speaker 2: You're fucked. I actually put on a really budget rated
Speaker 2: Locknest monster movie the other day. I had to turn
Speaker 2: it off. I I don't turn off movies. And you
Speaker 2: know that that's how bad it was.
Speaker 1: Must have been real dire, dire watching. Okay, so on
Speaker 1: this episode we are talking about the three great love theory.
Speaker 1: So you're either going to be the firework, the candle,
Speaker 1: and the mirror.
Speaker 2: You're either going to be in one of those relationships
Speaker 2: or had one of.
Speaker 1: Those relationships, have had one of those relationships. So it's
Speaker 1: about people who you've fallen in love with in your past. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we love doing this, we love figuring out which one
Speaker 1: we are, and you guys can at home as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, so do you want to tell us a bit
Speaker 2: about these three theories? Anna?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So first let's start with the firework, the most
Speaker 1: crazy one, as the name suggests, being a firework. So
Speaker 1: this love is the intoxicating love, the one that burns
Speaker 1: bright but fades quickly. So we've all had that relationship,
Speaker 1: I think, especially when I was younger. I think the
Speaker 1: firework theory happened a lot. Like you meet someone, it's explosion,
Speaker 1: and then next minute like it's over. It's it all
Speaker 1: happens so quick.
Speaker 2: Super and over.
Speaker 1: Literally.
Speaker 2: Is that what they called the burn bright, die young? Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's exciting, it's dramatic, it's explosive, basically like an
Speaker 1: actual firework. It fizzles out quickly and often leaves behind
Speaker 1: a smoky aftermath of drama and emotional wreckage. Matt, can
Speaker 1: I relate?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in a couple of firework relationships, definitely.
Speaker 2: I feel like these ones, though, everyone has to go
Speaker 2: through them. I mean I say everyone, that's a bit
Speaker 2: of a broad statement, but I feel like you learn
Speaker 2: from them, and I feel like you better yourself from
Speaker 2: those relationships and understand a bit more about yourself and
Speaker 2: a bit more about dating. Like we've always said on
Speaker 2: this podcast, dating is about learning, and to learn, you
Speaker 2: need to get out there and explore different scenarios and
Speaker 2: different relationships. I think it's a very not useful, but
Speaker 2: it's something that might seem traumatic at the time, but
Speaker 2: you learn from it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the firework love rarely works out, and I
Speaker 1: think it's good to learn that lesson young Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that you can kind of like see that Yes, it
Speaker 1: was fun at the start, but it's not there's no
Speaker 1: longevity in that type of relationship.
Speaker 2: People mistake that passion for like love and lusters in love.
Speaker 2: I feel like that happens a lot when you're younger
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But in saying that, I've never been in a
Speaker 1: relationship where there's not been fireworks at the start, like
Speaker 1: you know, like tummy, but have you Yeah, I done
Speaker 1: a slow burner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was with one when I was like hooking
Speaker 2: up with the girl for like a couple of years
Speaker 2: before I realized that she was cool shit can started
Speaker 2: dating her for over two years.
Speaker 1: That's that must be a rare scenario. Yeah, so what
Speaker 1: you guys were like friends with benefits. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: it moved.
Speaker 2: Into it just it just got more and more like
Speaker 2: you know, from every fortnight to like once a week,
Speaker 2: twice a week, like go home after going out with
Speaker 2: her or go like and then eventually just got more
Speaker 2: and more like you know, and the more you talk
Speaker 2: and it was like dates, more days, and it just
Speaker 2: gradually became a relationship. Didn't work out obviously, Yeah, but
Speaker 2: you know you're young. They can happen you're young.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the slow burn one. That is
Speaker 1: the candle that is steady but potentially unfulfilling. I've definitely
Speaker 1: had a candle before. Let's explain it. So the candle
Speaker 1: relationship is what many of us settle into after recovering
Speaker 1: from the burns of the firework. This is so true.
Speaker 1: It's steady, it's reliable, and it offers a warm glow
Speaker 1: rather than a blinding explosion of light. A candle burns consistently,
Speaker 1: providing comfort, and it could potentially burn for a long time.
Speaker 1: But there's often something missing, whether that be the spark,
Speaker 1: that challenge, or a deeper connection, and then we end
Speaker 1: up normally leaving the candle relationship because of that. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can definitely relate to this one. I think after
Speaker 1: you do get burned by the firework relationship, you can
Speaker 1: sometimes just want that you know, good person who you
Speaker 1: know stability, Yeah, is going to give you that stability
Speaker 1: is going to be peace. Peace, Yeah, that love, that.
Speaker 2: Piece piece is so valuable in a relationship. I think
Speaker 2: that that is something that is just.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally underrated. Like when people say what are you
Speaker 1: looking for? No one says that piece.
Speaker 2: No one says they want peace. We all want peace.
Speaker 1: What I do want to say about the candle relationship
Speaker 1: is there's still fire, Like the candle still represents a
Speaker 1: fire burning. It's not saying it's a boring relationship. You know,
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of love there. But I think
Speaker 1: you do end up in some cases blowing out that
Speaker 1: flame because there's just something missing. There's not a big
Speaker 1: enough challenge for you.
Speaker 2: And what would you say to like high school sweethearts
Speaker 2: that are still together.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're the candle that never blew out.
Speaker 2: I mean, I got told the other day that my
Speaker 2: house captains at my school just got married. They've been
Speaker 2: together for like that's over ten years. Really, that's a
Speaker 2: long time. That's like real, Like and they were dating
Speaker 2: at school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a similar story. There's a few couples
Speaker 1: actually from my school who have ended up together. You
Speaker 1: know what, I think it's really sweet if you're in
Speaker 1: love and happy and you meet your person who's your
Speaker 1: forever person at school, Like why not, Like if I
Speaker 1: met Michael when I was at school, It's actually funny.
Speaker 2: Do you reckon though you would still be with Michael school.
Speaker 1: We've spoken about this, and I reckon that we would
Speaker 1: have like dated and then we would have gone separate
Speaker 1: ways and then found our way back to each other
Speaker 1: at the same time when we were like even it's
Speaker 1: so funny because Michael was like obviously lead singer in
Speaker 1: a band, had like long hair, he had a lip ring.
Speaker 1: He looks like so different.
Speaker 2: It looks like panic at the disco. Literally that's all
Speaker 2: that boy say a scene. No, we can't sing songs,
Speaker 2: We've got to pay royalties.
Speaker 1: We were sitting on this long gust no, and then
Speaker 1: I was like literally had like long dark hair like
Speaker 1: we literally we put photos of ourselves together when we
Speaker 1: were younger, and we look.
Speaker 2: Like, well, if you're wearing eyeliner from that photo I
Speaker 2: just showed you, guys would definitely be best friends.
Speaker 1: Dude, I didn't put that eyelinera.
Speaker 2: Do you see this photo? This eyeliner is so thick
Speaker 2: with the.
Speaker 1: Look from the MYR show. Roll it up with them.
Speaker 2: The last and final one in this theory, Anna, is
Speaker 2: the mirror.
Speaker 1: So that is the challenging.
Speaker 2: Before we start. I've never seen a mirror that I
Speaker 2: don't get along with.
Speaker 1: Why did you have to say that? Like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, but you know, it's so typical about
Speaker 1: So the mirror is the challenging but transformative relationship. So
Speaker 1: the mirror love the one that is the most profound
Speaker 1: and potentially lasting of the three. So if I was
Speaker 1: going to say that me and Michael are one of these,
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like the fireworks at the start
Speaker 1: was me and Michael, but then we moved into the
Speaker 1: mirror one.
Speaker 2: Well that's a healthy transition I feel of a relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let me describe this one. This is a
Speaker 1: relationship that reflects back to you all of your strengths, weaknesses, fears,
Speaker 1: and potential. It shows you exactly who you are, which
Speaker 1: can be both terrifying and incredibly liberating. I love the
Speaker 1: mirror theory as well, Like I think having a relationship
Speaker 1: where you look at someone and you see yourself is
Speaker 1: so powerful because you can grow so much.
Speaker 2: I say, or you see someone that wants you to grow,
Speaker 2: and you respect and listen to them, and you take
Speaker 2: it on and you want to grow with them and
Speaker 2: grow together to make the best version of yourself. I
Speaker 2: feel like that is a relationship that's the most powerful
Speaker 2: and will not break. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if you can like look at someone and see
Speaker 1: their faults and go I do that too, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you can both help each other. I think that's
Speaker 1: such a powerful relationship. So I think if you're finding
Speaker 1: that mirror relationship, absolutely cherish it, hold on to it.
Speaker 1: It also does mention that some of the most powerful
Speaker 1: mirror relationships that we have in our lives are between
Speaker 1: the friends and family that we have. There are indestructible
Speaker 1: bonds and they're the ones who you turn to at
Speaker 1: the worst possible times in your life and also your
Speaker 1: best and reveal your most happiest moments and your worst moments.
Speaker 2: I feel like, though, for this to work, a mirror,
Speaker 2: you have to be open to criticism from people you
Speaker 2: love and not take it as negative and take it constructively,
Speaker 2: because I don't think your partner is trying to criticize
Speaker 2: you to hurt you. They're just trying to see the
Speaker 2: best of you and try and get the best out
Speaker 2: of you. And if they are trying to hurt you,
Speaker 2: that's an unhealthy relationship and you need to leave.
Speaker 1: What do you think is the best relationship, the firework,
Speaker 1: the candle, or the mirror?
Speaker 2: Obviously the mirror, you think the mirror, Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think the you want to grow with your partner totally,
Speaker 2: and I think that if they can bring that out
Speaker 2: of you and you can bring that out of them,
Speaker 2: that's a positive step forward. And that's it. But the
Speaker 2: safety of a candle is just can't argue with that,
Speaker 2: the stability and that piece of that candle relationship absolutely,
Speaker 2: Like that's just what about a healthy mix of all
Speaker 2: of them? Is that on the table? Are we allowed
Speaker 2: to do that?
Speaker 1: And why not? Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, these are just apparently the three great loves
Speaker 1: that we have in our life. We've spoken about this
Speaker 1: is one sery of it, and this is a theory
Speaker 1: that each of these loves are represented by one of
Speaker 1: these things. Obviously, everyone loves a bit of excitement, everyone
Speaker 1: loves a bit of firework relationship. But I think as
Speaker 1: you get older you prioritize different things.
Speaker 2: I've said this before. There you can have excitement in
Speaker 2: a relationship without it ruining the stability of each other. Yeah,
Speaker 2: likely there are two different things. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think there's also a lot to be said about
Speaker 1: growing with your partner.
Speaker 2: And oh that's what's that's the idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like actually building things together and building your kind
Speaker 1: of like life together, you know, buying a car together,
Speaker 1: we are all.
Speaker 2: Having a child, all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Okay, Matt, that's all we have time for guys.
Speaker 1: I'm going on maternity leave. We have been recording some
Speaker 1: really fun Hotline episodes for you guys, so don't worry.
Speaker 1: We will be back next week. But they're just prerecorded
Speaker 1: episodes so that I can take a break meet my
Speaker 1: baby to know him actually Snoopy snoop dog. It's pretty
Speaker 1: crazy to be signing off like this because I don't
Speaker 1: know we always go back and say this, but it's
Speaker 1: just like so interesting that we started this podcast to
Speaker 1: single people talking about our relationships and dating life and
Speaker 1: how chaotic they were. And now I'm signing off this
Speaker 1: episode saying bye, guys, I'm gonna go have a baby.
Speaker 2: It's very exciting, mind blowing.
Speaker 1: It's actually crazy. But yeah, stay tuned. We have some
Speaker 1: really fun episodes planned for you, guys. And the next
Speaker 1: time that you speak to me or we talk or
Speaker 1: I'm in this podcast.
Speaker 2: Studio, They're going to bring him in.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Am I going to bring him in?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Am I going to have a babysit? I don't know.
Speaker 2: You should proably start thinking about that sort of probably
Speaker 2: should be front of mine.
Speaker 1: My mom is like so excited. So is Michael's mum
Speaker 1: of course, so we have the best support system from
Speaker 1: both sides of the family. And I think if I
Speaker 1: need a babysitter, I don't think I'm going to be
Speaker 1: short on I've.
Speaker 2: Heard some horror stories about the mum and mother in
Speaker 2: law getting too involved. That should be interesting. Just people
Speaker 2: in general, tiktoks and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, boundaries, boundaries, But like if I'm saying I'm coming
Speaker 1: in to record the podcast and ask both of them.
Speaker 2: There's going to be no.
Speaker 1: Maybe they can fight with each other, okay, but no,
Speaker 1: or maybe I can bring him into the podcast. We'll
Speaker 1: see it might be a bit distracting.
Speaker 2: It should just sleep. It's weeks. It's him sorry, wow Sand?
Speaker 2: Oh he should just see C S E A C.
Speaker 1: Did you just get the name? Well? Did I?
Speaker 2: Well there's a picture here and I saw Sand and
Speaker 2: see on this screen. That's so funny, see Staples, sand
Speaker 2: Stafles sand Staples, Sand Is it actually Sand? I'll get it.
Speaker 1: I want to tell you, like, it would be funny
Speaker 1: if you did actually get it. That's like like every
Speaker 1: time you keep guessing these names, I'm like, it would
Speaker 1: actually be funny if you just happen to get it.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately, Strike, No, you're off the mark.
Speaker 2: I don't know. No one has got it.
Speaker 1: No one's got it. Guys, Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: listening in man. I really appreciate all of the support
Speaker 1: that we get from you guys. It does not go unnoticed.
Speaker 1: You guys are our where's your head out? Family? Thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on this journey with us. Enjoy the
Speaker 1: episodes that we have prepared for you, and until next
Speaker 1: time
Speaker 2: Love you, bye,