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Speaker 1: This is the fitsy and with her with Kate Richie podcast,

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Speaker 1: we hit a topic that's got a hell of a

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Speaker 1: lot of reaction.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 1: It was a sensitive one.

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Speaker 3: Have a listened to this directly after birth? My four

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Speaker 3: year old told me that Daddy and Funny were in bed.

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Speaker 4: So this is in the hospital.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just delivered and my four year old come

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Speaker 3: to meet her new sister and she said, is this

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Speaker 3: mummy's baby or summy's baby?

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Speaker 1: Did you suspected prior to this?

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Speaker 3: Well, they're sort of related.

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Speaker 1: How close to the birth did you find out that

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Speaker 1: they were cheating?

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Speaker 4: We did not expect to get a call like that,

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Speaker 4: and it was so good. I even told that story

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Speaker 4: in my real life to people over the weekend, Like.

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Speaker 1: You have real life out of this studio.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I mean it's certainly not as happy

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Speaker 4: or as fulfilling as the one I have in here.

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Speaker 1: No, the comments on social media through the roof, I

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Speaker 1: need to know more. Tell me more in thirty two.

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Speaker 1: If you've got a story you want to share, so

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Speaker 1: many more other people. This had happened to Kate Richie.

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Speaker 1: How listened to this after I just got into the

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Speaker 1: delivery unit at the hospital to sleep. His phone started

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Speaker 1: to ring and it was his picture with the other

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Speaker 1: girl that he was also in a relationship, and she

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Speaker 1: was pregnant by him. Obviously, our relationship ended. Then I

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Speaker 1: found out that he'd cheated on the other girl, and

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Speaker 1: then on another one as well that was pregnant. Ah,

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Speaker 1: what about this one? It's just from Gemini. A great

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Speaker 1: star sign, by the way, isn't it. A year after

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Speaker 1: surviving and earthquake, nine months of pregnancy in a foreign

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Speaker 1: country where we were living. My husband put me into

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Speaker 1: hospital citing stress. And while I was in hospital and

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Speaker 1: working out, he was working out how to move his

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Speaker 1: girlfriend into the house. When I came home, her clothes

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Speaker 1: were in the cupboard and a lot more things were happening.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, my god, I was in hospital while my

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Speaker 1: partner was out impregnating his ex wife.

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Speaker 5: It's the sad child there's been a child has been

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Speaker 5: brought into this world, and unfortunately it's not off to

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Speaker 5: a good start.

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Speaker 1: But he kept the secret in the family member until

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Speaker 1: he accidentally let slip that she was pregnant. He was

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Speaker 1: only sorry he got caught.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, to have those thoughts, it's it is just blows

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Speaker 6: my mind. But you can have those thoughts where whilst

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Speaker 6: your partner is in hospital.

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Speaker 4: It must just be the wiring.

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Speaker 1: While I was delivering his son, he was moving in

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Speaker 1: with his girlfriend. A man to think that some guy

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Speaker 1: would see the opportunity and go, she's out of the house.

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Speaker 1: Now I can shift a few things around.

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Speaker 4: Ah, the moving the girlfriend's stuff in while you're in

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Speaker 4: hospital and then coming home to see somebody else's trinkets

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Speaker 1: It happened to me just as I was being allocated

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Speaker 1: I found out, Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: That it's not you know what this mean, that you

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Speaker 5: could you could level your anger and your pain, I

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Speaker 5: suppose into getting that baby out its frustration.

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Speaker 2: God.

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Speaker 1: Even Lisa's mum jumped on here. Just awful, Deborah, right, thanks, Deborah.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I don't know? Dave's having a

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Speaker 4: Did Lisa's mum really comments?

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Speaker 1: Just awful with a like a furious blood red face.

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Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about this because the prime

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Speaker 1: ages or most likely ages to cheat came up, and

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Speaker 1: We've got to call on it, and then look at

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Speaker 1: all these other comments. It's hal Mary, but love to

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Speaker 1: the birth did you find out they were cheating? Vanessa

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Speaker 1: in North Caliville, Ness, what happened to you?

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Speaker 2: Welln't to me. I had a girlfriend of mine who

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Speaker 4: Not that it might cause her stress and trauma, it

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Speaker 5: Literally the niss. The dilemma that she has to deal

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Speaker 5: with there is that, Okay, I've lost him, he's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pretty, she switched Dacre.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they're very hard to find the.

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Speaker 1: Spots in your area. My godness, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Oh Celia, Celia and Ramwick. Tell us about your sister, Celia.

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Speaker 7: Oh hi guys. Yeah, look, this is a while ago,

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Speaker 7: but my sister met this guy and they felt pregnant together.

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Speaker 7: I was quite soon into the relationship, but she was,

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Speaker 7: you know, seemed pretty happy she had the baby. She

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Speaker 7: threw a party for him for his fortieth birthday. She

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Speaker 7: called me in absolute she is going, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 7: I can't believe it. I've just found out that he's

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Speaker 7: been in a relationship with another woman for ten years.

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Speaker 7: I'm his mistress. And basically, yeah, all of the mutual

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Speaker 7: friends came up and said, he's used you to have

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Speaker 7: the baby because the mistress didn't want one.

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Speaker 5: Oh my, so you were your sister was the mistress,

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Speaker 5: like she thought she was the relationship.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and she had no idea.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no idea, no idea.

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Speaker 7: No idea, no no. She met him through mutual friends,

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Speaker 7: and you know, thought he was a Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I have said something.

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Speaker 4: It was surely a mutual friend would know.

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Speaker 7: I think I think he was just one of those

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Speaker 7: guys that was really good at you know, keeping things

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Speaker 7: under wrapped, very very crafty. He's still a crafty bugger

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Speaker 7: and they from it.

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Speaker 5: The big one is so he couldn't have a child

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Speaker 5: with his full on relationships, so he used your sister

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Speaker 5: the track like that's crazy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, well what the woman knew about my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were working together as a couple.

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Speaker 4: So you can go and do this to have a

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Speaker 7: I don't want to give you my child.

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Speaker 1: Did you know who the other person was? The other woman? No?

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Speaker 7: I never No, No, she wouldn't want to meet me.

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Speaker 4: No, I bet not. So what's the scenario now, how

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Speaker 4: like is there you know you said this was a

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Speaker 4: long time ago. Were they all still in contact? Is

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Speaker 4: he still in the child's life?

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Speaker 7: Oh, look he's he's in his child's life, but not

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Speaker 7: very actively. No, he's been a real deadbeat dad to

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Speaker 7: be honest. But I've got a beautiful nephew is now

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Speaker 7: twenty one. Gorgeous.

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Speaker 5: Extraordinary story is fascinating. Did he go on to have

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Speaker 5: children himself?

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Speaker 1: Celia and the other kids.

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Speaker 7: Or no, No, that was it. And he hasn't really

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Speaker 7: contributed anything either, which is just bizarre. Why would you

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Speaker 7: want a child and they're not want to contribute. He

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Speaker 7: hasn't helped with his schooling or about the bloodline.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes, you know, people get a bit weird about it all.

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Speaker 3: I've got it, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want the name to die some guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is that a clear winner for worst bloke ever?

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Speaker 1: Or is that.

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Speaker 7: Up the list for me?

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Speaker 1: Oh? My god?

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Speaker 5: Beck in Orang Park, How close to the birth did

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Speaker 1: Beck?

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Speaker 8: I didn't find out until my son was six weeks old,

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Speaker 8: but he actually nearly missed the birth because he was

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Speaker 8: on the phone to her in the parking lot the hospital.

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Speaker 1: So how did you have to work it out?

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Speaker 9: Well, it turns out that he was on the Ashley

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Speaker 9: Madison dating cheating website.

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Speaker 8: And when that.

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Speaker 9: List got hacked and I didn't put into an Excel spreadsheet.

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Speaker 3: They hear there he was.

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Speaker 4: And you found out that way.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So I then went and did a little bit

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Speaker 8: the emails and the phone and yeah, there he was.

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Speaker 1: And who was the other girl?

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Speaker 7: Ah?

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Speaker 8: Some girl from Canberra.

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Speaker 9: So what he was doing was going and seeing her

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Speaker 9: under the pretensive being at work, and yeah, it wasn't

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Speaker 9: coming home.

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Speaker 4: How was this your first child?

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 1: It was and you broke up, did you bet?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yes, try and make it work or that was it?

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Speaker 9: On and off for a little while because stupidly Peter's

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Speaker 9: getting rid of her.

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Speaker 8: What a terrible mistake. So we did that for.

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Speaker 9: A few months before I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 9: I have enough going on.

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Speaker 8: I have a new boy.

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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, and that's where your energy needs to be.

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Speaker 4: It's such a vulnerable time, though, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Has he been all right? Dad beg.

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Speaker 8: On and off.

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Speaker 9: It was rough at the start, like he's pretty good

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Speaker 9: with him now. Ye like to spend lots of time,

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Speaker 9: doesn't like to contribute a lot of money.

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Speaker 8: But that's okay time.

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Speaker 9: You know, he makes the best of the situation you've got.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the story.

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