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Speaker 1: Appogia Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Bad Mom?

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Speaker 3: Podcast?

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: I was talking to a friend, another mom this morning,

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Speaker 4: and she was like, oh, twenty twenty five can kiss

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Speaker 4: my ass.

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Speaker 3: She's just like, I'm over it. I'm done. I want

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Speaker 3: the new year.

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Speaker 4: And we were talking about how this year for twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five has been, like they say, the year of

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Speaker 4: the snake, and it's a form of shedding that everyone's doing,

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Speaker 4: like the shedding of the skin of the snake.

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Speaker 3: To then go into the new year for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, although I feel like everyone was saying the same

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Speaker 2: sort of thing back in two thousand and nineteen. Oh

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Speaker 2: and then COVID we went into twenty twenty. Everyone was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: remember that if ooh yeah, yeah twenty, Like this is.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be the year.

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Speaker 5: Bam.

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Speaker 3: It was a horrible year. It was horrible.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you lived your best life in twenty twenty. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: just in your trackies, just around the house.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, happy.

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Speaker 1: She was so happy.

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Speaker 3: I was in my element. Oh yeah, I did that.

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Speaker 2: I've said so many times before. But on a stage

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Speaker 2: of Pala Jay would announce a quick snap lockdown I'd

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Speaker 2: get all excited.

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Speaker 3: I could do a quick dan.

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Speaker 2: Run to the bottle shop and that was all we

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Speaker 2: got to be home by for like there was going

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Speaker 2: to be someone out on the street checking and then

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Speaker 2: wild never was. Remember there was all that talk of like, oh,

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Speaker 2: the military will be on the streets making so everyone

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Speaker 2: stays in.

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Speaker 4: I remember so many times being like, oh, here we go.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get in trouble by the police because I'd

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Speaker 4: be sitting, like at a coffee shop that was open,

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Speaker 4: but when I'd sit down, but I was sitting on

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Speaker 2: And there were so many of those moments. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: then sometimes be able to go to a bar, but

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Speaker 2: you weren't allowed to dance. Remember we went to a

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Speaker 2: birthday We went to a fortieth birthday party.

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Speaker 4: And we almost forced her to turn it into a

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Speaker 4: wedding because the restrictions at that particular time was if

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Speaker 4: it was a wedding, you were allowed to have dancing,

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Speaker 4: but only for a certain amount of time.

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Speaker 3: And so we tried to convince her.

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Speaker 4: Husband that'd be married forever yeah, to just get remarried

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Speaker 4: on her fortieth birthday so that we could dance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember like I remember, there'd be moments

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Speaker 2: of dancing, then someone would be like no dancing.

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Speaker 5: We'd been like this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: The stories of twenty twenty twenty twenty five is coming

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Speaker 4: to a close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've been alluding on our at am I

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Speaker 2: Bad Mum social media and our personal ones that there

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Speaker 2: is an announcement coming today.

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Speaker 3: We're hanging up the lunch boxes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have decided, so just say it. We've decided

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Speaker 2: to finish am I a Bad Mum podcast. This is

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Speaker 2: such a weird one because I was driving in this

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Speaker 2: morning and I felt quite emotional. I think for me,

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Speaker 2: it's got to the point where my kids in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six turn eighteen, so they're going.

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Speaker 3: To be adult. They're out of here. They already.

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Speaker 2: For the last couple of years have been a little

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Speaker 2: bit over the podcast. Oh I really do have to

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Speaker 2: keep bitching and moaning about us.

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Speaker 3: It's like, don't give me anything to bitch and moan about.

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Speaker 1: It.

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Speaker 2: A lovely podcast, but I think for me it felt

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Speaker 2: a bit like twenty twenty six was a good year

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Speaker 2: to wrap up the podcast. We've had such a good run.

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Speaker 2: We love the people that listen.

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Speaker 4: When we think about what the journey of the podcast is.

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Speaker 4: And we don't want to sit too long on this

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Speaker 4: because we've got some good stuff in here. It was

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Speaker 4: the start of twenty eighteen. My girls were like three

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Speaker 4: and five. I've got tweens now, and like your girls

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Speaker 4: also were like my kid's age. Like, that's where we've come.

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Speaker 4: That's what we've gone through. We've gone through the tantrums,

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Speaker 4: we've gone through the tweens. We've gone through the phones

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Speaker 4: and the iPads and that you name, anything to do

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Speaker 4: with parenting. And I think what this podcast is really

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Speaker 4: like when I think about it as well, what this

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Speaker 4: podcast has done is like allowed us space to basically

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Speaker 4: talk and share in a reflective sense everything across the

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Speaker 4: board to do with parenting. Everything, right, this podcast allows

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Speaker 4: you to see exactly what people don't put on Instagram. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is real, right, this is raw. And the part

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Speaker 4: that I love is that our community of amazing listeners

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Speaker 4: is that we're all in it together.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know, when we first started this podcast, it's all

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Speaker 4: about we're all on the same bus. Yeah, both in brain,

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Speaker 4: whatever the form of transport you wanted to be taking,

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Speaker 4: that's what.

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Speaker 3: We're on together.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think about it and just go Like that

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Speaker 4: journey for me in particular, like I can only speak

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Speaker 4: from my feelings, is just made that part of parenting

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Speaker 4: like it's hard and it's only going to get harder.

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Speaker 4: I get, I understand that, but it has made it

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Speaker 4: just that little bit easier.

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Speaker 3: Just having a community behind you, knowing.

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Speaker 4: That your reflective over sharing in a podcast is helping

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Speaker 4: other parents go, oh yeah, cool, we're not in it alone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that, And I think even the like the

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Speaker 2: worst things we've done, like that moment of getting to

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Speaker 2: that you forgot their lunch box, ye, Or my girls

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Speaker 2: used to be like, Mum, we were waiting here, it's

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Speaker 2: almost dark. Yeah, ye, you haven't picked it up yet.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so sorry I had so much on Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The fact that everybody else has been doing that stuff

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Speaker 2: anyone that's given their kids a sausage smoothie like you

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Speaker 2: did that once, thinking it was frozen banana. It was sausage, Drake,

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Speaker 2: your smoothie. Haven't come across anyone else that's done that yet.

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Speaker 3: But I'm so busy. I'm just not thinking straight, And

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Speaker 3: that is exactly it.

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Speaker 4: It is the highlights, right, there's high highlights, there's low lights,

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Speaker 4: and there's fucking everything else in between.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's been hell of a ride, hell of

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Speaker 4: But you know, as we have done in this show,

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Speaker 4: we have spent what seven and a half years talking

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Speaker 4: about our children.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So the final episode, we've decided that the kids can

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Speaker 4: finally have their say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I text my girls. I haven't seen them.

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Speaker 2: They got home really late last night and then they

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Speaker 2: left really early this morning because they're camping for concerts.

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Speaker 2: So I just sent them a message saying, could you

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Speaker 2: give me some answers to some of these questions. So

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Speaker 2: the first one is if mum had a warning label,

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Speaker 2: what would it say? Holly says, warning health freak. I'm

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Speaker 2: always banging on to my kids about water, make healthy choices,

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Speaker 5: Hidding? I drink too much alcohol.

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Speaker 2: And the next question is what is Mum's most used saying.

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Speaker 2: My most you saying is you're tired. It's literally my

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Speaker 2: answer to I have a glass of water. Yeah, either

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Speaker 2: You're tired. They are three sentences that answer any question

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Speaker 2: anything asked by your children. What is the funniest thing

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Speaker 2: mam has ever told you off for going one kilometer

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Speaker 4: It's so relevant right now. Yeah, yeah, that's so relevant

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Speaker 4: to your family right now. That's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: And the argument rate the argument I have from a

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Speaker 2: meal I said to her the other day, Amelia, people

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Speaker 2: four years and years and years have put research into

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Speaker 2: what rules need to be put into place to make

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Speaker 2: sure we all drive safely. Only four one teenager to

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Speaker 2: decide that it's all wrong and she's going to make the.

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Speaker 3: Rules because she knows everything. She knows everything, She knows everything.

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Speaker 2: If mum was a school subject, what would it be

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Speaker 2: the health class? What's something mum thinks she's cool lat

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Speaker 2: but she's actually not her music taste?

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Speaker 3: That's a big call.

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Speaker 5: I like my music taste.

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Speaker 2: The final one is I said, do you have anything

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Speaker 2: else to add? For the last episode of Am I

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Speaker 2: a bad mum? Amelia says that you're not a bad mum,

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Speaker 2: but sometimes you are. I said, what about all the

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Speaker 2: stories we've told, She said, I haven't listened to the podcast.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank.

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Speaker 4: You for all about seven years of hard work. I'll

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Speaker 4: give you a little snippet of graces.

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Speaker 1: Gracie, say this is your chair.

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Speaker 6: As the podcast wraps up, we're going to do a

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Speaker 6: lightning round of questions, perfect for you to have your

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Speaker 6: final say on the last episode of Am I a

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Speaker 6: Bad Mum?

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Speaker 1: Okay? You ready? Okay? Mom's best quality? Dost quality? Mean again? Okay? Skip,

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Speaker 1: that's great. Mom's worst habit You say that you'll do

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Speaker 1: a job and then you move on to another one.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, Mom is happiest when when.

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Speaker 1: She has Margarina in her hands, just hanging out with

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Speaker 1: us in the backyard. Mom's crankiest when when we don't

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Speaker 1: help her out when the dad's away. It's Mom's secret

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Speaker 4: She can do some stuff in the click of a finger,

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Speaker 4: and when she's so kind and generous and she doesn't

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Speaker 1: That's very true. Thank you. One word to describe Mom

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Speaker 3: All right. That's because it still went on for another

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So then we'll give Elsie's a crack and

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Speaker 4: I'll see Saday.

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Speaker 6: You're in the hot seat as we wrap up, and

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Speaker 6: I hate our dad.

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Speaker 1: Mum, I've got some quick questions for you, all right.

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Speaker 1: Moms best quality definitely making everything fun okay great. Mum's

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Speaker 1: worst habit definitely your big fat.

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Speaker 6: Mum's happiest when after you have coffee, okay, Mum's crankiest

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Speaker 6: when when you haven't gone to the gym.

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Speaker 1: Mum's secret superpower and one word only to describe me.

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Speaker 4: What is your message to the future you when you.

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Speaker 6: Were a parent, Drink coffee, go the gym and just

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Speaker 5: We didn't know that about you.

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Speaker 2: Who knew that rates is a bit.

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Speaker 3: Of a voter.

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Speaker 4: I gave her an option to be able to roast

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Speaker 4: me and she's gone with the fat option.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so good, and this is not new. We

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Speaker 2: knew already your two favorite things coffee and margaritas.

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Speaker 6: Good advice would you give mum as in me for

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Speaker 1: You need to calm down.

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Speaker 2: You Just.

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Speaker 2: When we started, am I a bad mom? Our kids

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Speaker 4: Over the years you grew with us, you heard our

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Speaker 3: It will still be the two of us.

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Speaker 4: It will be the friendship, the honesty, the laughter. But

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Speaker 3: This isn't goodbye.

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Speaker 4: It's just a new era, as Taylor says, and we

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Speaker 1: No, it's Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: It's Wednesday. Am I a bad mom for questioning what is?

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Speaker 3: Not put any of you? Am I a bad mum

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Speaker 3: Am I a bad mom for this is yours? This

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Speaker 3: That's a good We can put my peace on each other.

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