1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: On scaring Lils Ostrodio. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: This is the Winner Panalty Show. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 3: Good evening, Anne, Welcome to the reader Panety Show. Coming 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 3: up tonight, the Safety Commissioner abandons her court byte with 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 3: Elon Masks X and eleat football like facing a full 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 3: match band for refusing to celebrate Pridemark. Nigel Farag attacked 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: in the UK after launching his election campaign in Essex. 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 3: Joining me tonight Senator Alex Antik Josh Hammer with the 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: latest from the US and Alex Phillips with the UK 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: report and of course your favorite lefties losing it. Joining 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: me now is Deputy Director of the Institute of Public 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: Affairs Daniel Wild Dan, Let's start with Julie Edman Grand, 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: the Safety Commissioner who today abandoned her federal court battle 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: with Elon Musk, sparked by her demand that Extra move 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: videos of the alleged terror event in a wakely church 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: in Sydney. Dan, She's now going to be testing the 17 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 3: validity of her office's powers through the Administrative Appeals Tribunal. 18 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: What do you make of today's developments? 19 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: Well, this is a significant development. I think it shows 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: that Julie in Mangrant's position is now untenable and she 21 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: should step aside from that role. The reason for that 22 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 4: is it was clearly overreach for her to go to 23 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 4: the Federal Court, and that was clear when what the 24 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: Justice had to say about the matter. I don't doubt 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 4: that Julian Mangrant believes that she's doing the right thing 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: by the community. But the issue is that there is 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: a significant amount of power that has been invested into 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 4: that role, where now we basically have one individual that's 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: able to make determinations about the content of what should 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: or should not be online based on her own subjective opinions. 31 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 4: And the problem is that we know that Julian Mangrant, 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: whatever her intentions might be, she has a history of 33 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: political activism and we saw that with the Voice to Parliament. 34 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 4: So I don't think Australians think it's appropriate that you 35 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: have one individual that should be policing not only the 36 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: Internet in Australia. But remember she wanted to take this 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 4: content down everywhere around the world, and that is dramatic overreach. 38 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: That was what was so extraordinary. I mean, she is 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: a left wing activist. That she was appointed by a 40 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: coalition government is to their eternal shame that they did 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: not check her out sufficiently. But again, this office was 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 3: initially created to protect children, to get rid of child 43 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: exploitation material from the world wide Web. Not not what 44 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: she is doing now removing posts that are saying things 45 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: like men can't breastfeed Somehow, that's the sort of shocking 46 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 3: hate speech that we can't be subjected to. So let's 47 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: keep an eye on this one, because I don't think 48 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: we've heard the last of this saga. To be honest 49 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: with you, I know she's abandoned this court fight, but 50 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: this issue is not dead yet to Victoria. Now and 51 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: those who protested against Victoria's harsh lockdowns are taking legal 52 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: action after a judge rule Victoria police used unlawful and 53 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: unjustified violence during the COVID nineteen pandemic. Five protesters are 54 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: suing the state over their unlawful detentions following a rally 55 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: in Melbourne on May nine, twenty one. More than a 56 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: dozen protesters were arrested that day after clashes with police, 57 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: with County called Judge Liz Gainor ruling that police were 58 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: the aggressives and employed unjustified violence during the chaos. Interesting, 59 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: and I've got to say my sympathies are with this 60 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: five who are taking this legal action because we saw 61 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: it over and over again in this state, peaceful protesters 62 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: protesting against the most straconian measures imaginable, and the manner 63 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: that police dealt with them was reprehensible. In my opinion, I. 64 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: Agree, and the chickens are now coming home to roost. 65 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: In addition to the unjustifiable violence of Victoria police, there was, 66 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: of course the double standard, which was if you were 67 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 4: a Black Lives Matter protester, you had the red carpet treatment, 68 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 4: you were allowed to go out there in protest. But 69 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 4: if you were someone like Zoey Buller who was just 70 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 4: putting their opinion online about the lockdowns, then you were arrested. 71 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 4: And these people who were protesting were brutally dealt with. Look, 72 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: I think the issue really came down to the leadership 73 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: of the police and the fact that they were politicized. 74 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 4: They basically became an arm of Daniel Andrew's private office 75 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 4: to try and suppress speech, suppress protest, suppress freedom of association. 76 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 4: It's one of the most reprehensible times in our state history. 77 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 4: So look, this is I think another important step to 78 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: getting some justice. But reader, what it reinforces is we 79 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 4: need to have a proper full royal commission into every 80 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: single element for the pandemic by state and federal governments. 81 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely, that has to happen, and they may try to 82 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: delay it and delay it, but the sooner it happens 83 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: and we learned from it, the better. We'll get back 84 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: to Victoria in a second, but first let's have a 85 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 3: look at this. We had confirmation this week that many 86 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: of the COVID pandemic mandates we were all supposed to 87 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: follow religiously, unquestioningly, things like social distancing masking, They were 88 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: not based on science as we were told at the time. 89 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: This is all coming out with Dr Anthony Fauci is 90 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: grilling by the House COVID investigators and they just worked 91 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 3: on hunches. There was no medical basis. There was no 92 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: scientific basis. And Dan, let's not forget this wasn't just 93 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: in the US where Fauci had an enormous impact. We 94 00:05:53,920 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 3: here were following every draconian measure questioningly. I think probably 95 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: other than perhaps perhaps China, we and New Zealand were 96 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: the craziest when it came to that COVID era. And 97 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: I think so many people have memory hold what happened? 98 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: You asked them about things that occurred and they don't 99 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 3: recall it, and you have to actually, you know, google 100 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: an article and showed them so I know this actually happened. 101 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: Remember this, this was you live through it, not that 102 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: long ago. 103 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean that's happened to me, like a 104 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 4: two year period that doesn't exist because every day was 105 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: basically the same and you sort of sort of rolled 106 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 4: into one. But you know, it was shocking and those 107 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,559 Speaker 4: of us, I mean, you were one of the outspoken people, 108 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 4: one of the very few outspoken people at the time, 109 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 4: and we were sort of saying, well, hang on a minute, 110 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 4: why do you have I think here we had a 111 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: six meter rule, so why did we have a blanket 112 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: six meter rule? But then we had like a thousand 113 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 4: other specific rules in place at the same time. It 114 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 4: just none of this ever made sense from the start, 115 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: and there were many of us saying, well, is this 116 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: really about the health science or is this about politics? 117 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 4: And as the days and months have gone by since, 118 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 4: we now know that this was more about politics than 119 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: anything else, including in most cases masks. Now, masks may 120 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: have had a role in certain environments where you couldn't 121 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 4: move and you're on a train or a bus. But 122 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 4: you know this was about political theater, not about keeping 123 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: people safe. 124 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: No, and particularly masks outdoors. Let's just have a look 125 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: at those who didn't comply with some of these requirements 126 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: how they were treated. Now, the Australian Human Rights Commission 127 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: has had to ask one of its anti racism ambassadors 128 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: to step back while it investigates a racial discrimination complaint 129 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: against her. We're not suggesting that the ambassador Tasnim Chopra 130 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: has done anything legally wrong, but she did make posts 131 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: that said Zionists were racists and white supremacists who lie, lie, lie, 132 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: even casting doubt on her master's use of sexual violence 133 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: on October seven, which prompted a complain. The Australian Human 134 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: Rights Commission has previously had to end a contract with 135 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: a consulting firm, Hugh after The Australian newspaper revealed one 136 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: of its founders allegedly helped spread the docs details of 137 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: Jewish creatives. This all begs the question, Dan, why do 138 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: we even have this body because it was completely useless 139 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: during COVID where there was just mass violations of human 140 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: rights in this country. It's been pretty useless over the 141 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 3: last seven months when the Jewish community has been under attack, 142 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 3: why do we have this body other than two, I 143 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: don't know, terrorized cartoonists. 144 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 4: Well, look, that's exactly right. The Australian Human Rights Commission 145 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 4: has been anti free tom anti democratic since the start. 146 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: It hasn't done what it's supposed to do, which is 147 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 4: actually try and protect the human rights of all Australians. 148 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 4: As you mentioned, the most egregious breaches to our human 149 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 4: rights that have taken place in peacetime. Now, the Human 150 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 4: Rights Commission was completely and totally silent on to my knowledge, 151 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: they haven't said anything meaningful since then either, and they 152 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 4: have been largely a left leaning organization funded by taxpayers 153 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: that has tried to shut down, as you suggest, those 154 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 4: who have a different opinion from the political establishment. And look, 155 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 4: this is just another example of why it's time to 156 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: disband the Australian Human Rights Commission. 157 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: I'm with you now. Football player for Monaco has been 158 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: given a full match ban for covering up an anti 159 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: homophobia logo on his shirt. Mohammed Carrera put white tape 160 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: over a badge that featured on the front of the 161 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: All clubs jerseys on the final day of the season. 162 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: The league says, after hearing the player Mohammad Kumara and 163 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: noting his refusal during the meeting to carry out one 164 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: or more actions to raise awareness of the fight against homophobia, 165 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: the Commission decided to impose a four match suspension. That 166 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: is a heavy penalty. Indeed, short response from you, is 167 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 3: that justified? 168 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's another example of why politics and 169 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 4: social issues have no place in sport. I mean, soccer 170 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 4: is literally played or watched by billions of people around 171 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 4: the world with different religious views, cultural values and so forth. 172 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 4: And I think most people that are sick and tired 173 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: of having political issues used or sport used as a 174 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 4: vehicle to promote certain political views and issues, where they 175 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 4: just want to go to the sport to watch sport 176 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 4: rather than be lectured too. So I think this is 177 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 4: another example of we need to keep politics out of sport. 178 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely I agree with you on that one, Dan Wyle, 179 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: thank you for your time this evening. 180 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: Thank you joining me. 181 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: Now as Liberal Senator of South Australia. Alex Antick. Let's 182 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: start with a woman who was a victim of a 183 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: violent New Zealander and she's hit out at Immigration Minister 184 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: Andrew Jiles for his ministerial direction that allowed this offender 185 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: to remain in Australia. The man who racked up thirty 186 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: five convictions for crimes including attacking police officers domestic violence, 187 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: was safe from deportation because of Direction ninety nine. Single 188 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: mum Jessica Mills says she lays one hundred percent of 189 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: the blame at the Immigration Minister and has called on 190 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: the Albanese government to fix the mess they created. 191 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 5: What we went through, no family should have to go through. 192 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 5: He actually was a New Zealand citizen. The questions were 193 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 5: raised like why is he still here? There's criminal charges 194 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 5: that have been laid against them time and time again. 195 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 5: How many times did it have to be laid out 196 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 5: for them to actually be like, all right, this person 197 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 5: is not is not a good person in our country. 198 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: Senator Antique, Direction ninety nine is revised, replaced? Is that 199 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: going to fix this issue? And what is the Prime 200 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: Minister's culpability in this ministerial order being formulated? 201 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 6: Well, reader, apart from anything else, the Prime Minister leads 202 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 6: a government that's lost its way. It's very clearly not 203 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 6: in control of the Immigration Department. And of course the 204 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 6: same could be applied to many other departments as well. 205 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 6: But I mean, these are the human faces of this 206 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 6: Direction ninety nine and of course the flat footed response 207 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 6: to the original High Court decision. It's not like this 208 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 6: government hasn't had plenty of warning on this and we 209 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 6: learn now. I think that this Direction ninety nine order 210 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 6: has had an enormous impact on the aat's decisions, and 211 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 6: it has compounded the fact that we've seen one hundred 212 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 6: and fifty three criminals released back into the community. We're 213 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 6: talking about murderers, we're talking about child sex offenders, We're 214 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 6: talking about people that should never ever set foot in 215 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 6: this country. And yet we're now being told, once again, 216 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 6: after having fixed up the problem, allegedly tried to fix 217 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 6: up the problem with the High Court decision, we're being 218 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 6: told that Direction ninety nine is going to have the 219 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 6: same rubbing of the magic lantern. This government needs to 220 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 6: understand it is Australia first. Peter Dutton, on the other hand, 221 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 6: when he was the minister, he canceled six three hundred visas, 222 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 6: more than any other minister since federation. And we need 223 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 6: the adults back in charge of this government. 224 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: Again now mining magnate Gina ryan Hart has taken a 225 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: stand against the leftist push to include gender ideology in 226 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 3: the school curriculum. She wants parents to stand up with 227 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: her and speak at also her old school, Saint Hilda's 228 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: in Perth, that had not only a pride assembly that 229 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: parents were not invited to attend, students were told things 230 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: like having evolver doesn't necessarily mean you're a woman, and 231 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: one transgender teacher apparently berated an entire classroom because someone 232 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: accidentally or purposely we misgendered him or her. Sir was 233 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: used instead of miss We mock the US over the 234 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: excesses of the trans movement at Senator Antique, but we're 235 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: not much better here. Indeed, in some regards we're probably worse. 236 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I mean missus Reinhart's one hundred percent right. 237 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 6: And it actually makes a point that I've been making 238 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 6: for a long period of time is we need people 239 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 6: in politics to make the right decisions to protect kids. Remember, 240 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 6: schooling is about schooling, it's not about social engineering. But 241 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 6: it's more than that. We need people to be involved 242 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 6: on all levels. You know, we need quiet Australians to 243 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 6: speak up and we need families and parents to be 244 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 6: involved as well. We've seen that in South Australia. We've 245 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 6: got a very very successful movement with a group of 246 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 6: mums who are doing I guess things, talking about education 247 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 6: and providing support for each other in terms of you know, 248 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 6: how to talk to your principle about these things and 249 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 6: how to make that voice heard. We see a very 250 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 6: similar movement in the United States with the moms. Moms 251 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 6: as they say, for liberty in the United States. I 252 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 6: met some of them when I was over there and 253 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 6: they're fantastic women. We need the mums because I'll tell 254 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 6: you what, if you want to force in politics, it's 255 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 6: mumma bears. Don't muck around with the muma bears. They'll 256 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 6: get you. But we need more of them and there 257 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 6: are strengths in numbers here in South Australia. We just 258 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 6: recently saw a couple of months ago an incident involving 259 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 6: the Renmark High School where there was under the Guys 260 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 6: of Respectful Relationships, a program broad into the school that 261 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 6: parents didn't know about that the school teachers apparently were 262 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 6: not actually therefore, which involved talking to the kids about 263 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 6: concepts like beast reality. Now this is often done under 264 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 6: the guys of consent and respectful relationships. It's very hard, 265 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 6: I accept, for parents to know really what's going on 266 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 6: in their schools. But I think the first step is awareness. 267 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 6: We've been gathering for a long period of time complaints 268 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 6: from parents here, things that go on that would blow 269 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 6: your mind. So look, I think she's one hundred percent right. 270 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 6: The parents have got us start asking questions, even if 271 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 6: it's just with the kids, what did you learn today? 272 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 6: And see what it takes them, because this is a 273 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 6: full court press. We have got a problem with this 274 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 6: in our school system. 275 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: You're so right, and they always give these programs the 276 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 3: just the most benign names, in fact, names you couldn't 277 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: possibly disagree with, like safe schools and respectful relationships. You 278 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: just got to dig a little bit further into what 279 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: the detail is and you might be shocked before you go. 280 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: You did take our National Security agency to task in 281 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: Senate estimates last week. You asked about some of their 282 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: woke diversity schemes and also this preoccupation you might say 283 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: they have with Christian violent extremist ideology. I would have thought, 284 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: particularly over the last seven months, there would be other 285 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: issues that that would be occupying their time. 286 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 6: What did you learn, Well, this was I mean what 287 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 6: I learned is that, you know, there does seem to 288 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 6: be a bit of a preoccupation with white Christian nationalism 289 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 6: as it's referred to it. It's all the way through 290 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 6: the last Annual Report. Now, the last Annual Report, and 291 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 6: this is of course no criticism of the director. I 292 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 6: think it does a really good job. But the report 293 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 6: itself talks about white Christian nationalism like it's happening all 294 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 6: the time. They of course was framed around that we Ambler, 295 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 6: the tragic we Ambler shooting. But if you look back 296 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 6: over the last ten years of the eleven or so 297 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 6: terrorist acts in Australia, almost all of them are radical 298 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 6: Islamic terror or related or adjacent, and so it does 299 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 6: beg the question now they're probably separate issues. But I 300 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 6: then explored this diversity agenda inside Asia and we found 301 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 6: out there were support groups for all sorts of people 302 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 6: based on gender, based on cultural and linguistic status, none 303 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 6: of course for Christians who are involved in ASIO. But 304 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 6: the director rightly says if there was a call for one, 305 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 6: they'd have a support group for employees there as well. 306 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 6: I mean Ultimately, I don't know. I don't know where 307 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 6: this focus comes from, but I'm just not sure, and. 308 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: I do worry about the stats when you see something 309 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: like we saw that stabbing in Perth in the car 310 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 3: park outside of Bunnings, where the assailant stated what he 311 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 3: was doing, he said he was on a g HAD 312 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 3: and yet it wasn't classified as a terror event, so 313 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 3: statistically that doesn't get added to the lists and some 314 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: of the stats you discussed with the with the AZO spokesman, 315 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: Senator Antick, we do love your work. Thank you so 316 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 3: much for your time this evening. Thanks Ruder still to come. 317 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: Left is losing it and the Hunter Biden trial gets underway. 318 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: Josh Hammer brings us the latest welcome back, and now 319 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 3: it's time for lefties losing it. Let's have a look 320 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 3: at how loving and tolerant the two SLJLGB t q 321 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: I A plus plus plus community is to a trans 322 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: woman who happens to be conservative. Surely they'll be welcoming 323 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 3: and inclusive. Let's see how Blair White was treated at 324 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 3: Pride in Austin, Texas. It's true trans and supporting Trump. 325 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 7: Jesus, I thought it was about Pride. 326 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 8: Good emotions. The security won't stop following me. Why are 327 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 8: you still following me? Do you identify as a bully? 328 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 8: So why didn't you do anything when the person was 329 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 8: screaming for you and having to be hauled off by 330 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 8: his friend. Only when I asked questions respectfully to everyone? Okay, hey, 331 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 8: what's up? We're being treated kind of badly here. 332 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 333 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 8: Look how crazy this person is. This is a fan 334 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 8: of mine, Get away from me. You're filming me saying 335 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 8: these are conservatives. So it kind of sounds like you 336 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 8: have a problem because at the end of the day, 337 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 8: I'm trans I can be here. 338 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: Got to tell you, I ain't feeling the tolerance. Let's 339 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 3: go from Austin, which has been ruined by calor Thornians 340 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: too California, to West Hollywood and what has been the 341 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: highlight of the Pride parade for you? 342 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm not that acting mayor out here in front of me. 343 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, b. 344 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 7: Has been your favorite part of this. 345 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: At that so far? 346 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 3: I loved going out there and seeing all the kids. Really, 347 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 3: your favorite part is seeing all the kids watching the parade. 348 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 3: A parade full of prancing, scantily clad adults is not 349 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: exactly the sort of thing kids should be exposed to, 350 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: unless you're a lefty losing it. Now, this drag queen 351 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: is doing wonderful work, not reading too or prancing around 352 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: half naked in front of kids, but educating fully grown 353 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 3: adults about basic facts. 354 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 9: And so I did a study of bride in the 355 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 9: Middle East with Israel and Palistine. 356 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: Would you say you're pro Palestine or pro Israel? 357 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 9: Pro Palestine? 358 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: As a game man, I would be punished and or 359 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: put in prisoner killed if I were open the game Palestine. 360 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: How do you react to that? 361 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 9: I didn't know that. 362 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: So it is illegal to be gay in Palestine. You 363 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: are punished by prison or Jazz Israel. No, Israel has 364 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: gay pride. Israel is completely open to lesbian and gay people. 365 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: Palestine puts them in prison or kills them. You were 366 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: you weren't aware of that? I was not aware of that. 367 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: No, you weren't aware of that. You said you studied it, 368 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: and you're wearing rainbow colors. You don't know the most 369 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 3: basic facts about where gays and lesbians face genuine persecution. 370 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: Let's see how she copes with that this schooling. 371 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 9: So that does post an interesting aspect have you. 372 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: Seen the Queers for Palestine movements. It's a very common movement. 373 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: But I don't see any Muslims for queer movements. 374 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 9: Yes, that's where it gets grey, right, like that's where 375 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 9: I well, for me, it's not great. 376 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: It gets grey. Really, These are the paper who claim 377 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: there is a transgenocide happening in the US, who think 378 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: protecting your children from radical gender theory in doctrination in 379 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: school is bigoted and harmful. But gays and lesbians being beaten, jailed, killed, 380 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 3: that's just a gray area. Now, drag Queen tries to 381 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 3: teach this ignorant lefty about the plight of the gay 382 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: community in Muslim majority countries. 383 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: As there is no Islamic country on Earth that embraces 384 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: me as a gay man. 385 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 9: So okay, okay, So maybe I'm confused because Israel, which 386 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 9: isn't still an islam country. 387 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: Ray No, no, no Jewish. 388 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 9: Okay, okay, okay, okay. 389 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: So Israel's Jewish Palestinians are Islamic. 390 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, she studied it. Get your money back, lady. 391 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 3: Now let's continue. Left is losing it. With an important 392 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: message from the leader of the free world today, Joe 393 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: Biden vowde crackdown, going to tackle the border crisis he 394 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: has created. The man whose policies have seen illegal immigration 395 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 3: records broken every single year of his presidency is blaming 396 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 3: the Republicans and vowing tough action. 397 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 10: I've come here today to do what Republics in Congress 398 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 10: refuser do, take the necessary steps to secure our border. 399 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 10: We came to a clear bipartisan deal with the strongest 400 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 10: border security agreement in decades. Then Republicans in Congress, not 401 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 10: all of but walked away from it. Why because Donald 402 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 10: Trump told them to. 403 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: That's the most lucid we've seen him for some time. 404 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: He must be on the good stuff. But Biden's shameless 405 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 3: attempts today to blame Trump and the Republicans for this 406 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 3: crisis requires Americans to memory hold everything he has said 407 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: and done to cause this crisis. Remember he told illegal 408 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 3: immigrants to search the border when he was campaigning in 409 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 3: the lead up to the twenty twenty election. 410 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 10: I would, in fact make sure that there is we 411 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 10: immediately surge to the border. All those people are seeking asylum. 412 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 10: They deserve to be heard. That's who we are. Where 413 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 10: a nation says, if you want to flee and you're 414 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 10: freeing oppression, you should come. 415 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: And when he was asked, wouldn't his policies vowing to 416 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: overturn Trump's tough border protection plan lead to an illegal 417 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: immigration crisis? His response was this, first. 418 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 10: Of all, every executive order this president has issues relating 419 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 10: to the border and relating to dealing with the Hispanic 420 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 10: community is going to be pulled back. We're not going 421 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 10: to be fooling with that. 422 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 3: Wan't that we start a brand new border crisis. 423 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: I mean, what would you do with all those people 424 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: in camps now waiting in Mexico? 425 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 10: It will if we. 426 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: Don't do it. 427 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 8: Well, this is seekers that are on the other side 428 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 8: of the border now in camp's going to be allowed 429 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 8: to come and do their claims inside the United States, 430 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 8: something that. 431 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 10: Has not been for this the first time ever you've 432 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 10: had to seek asylum in a third country. It's outrageous. 433 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 10: It's outrageous. 434 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: It's outrageous. It's outrageous. What it's outrageous to have borders. Reminder, 435 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: his administration has let in millions illegally every single year 436 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 3: of his presidency, more than two million a year. And 437 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: why well, because he kept his election promise to overturn 438 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: Trump's policies. Indeed, on day one of Biden's presidency, he 439 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: terminated the national emergency with respect to the southern border 440 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: and redirected funds destined for completing the war. On day 441 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: one he did this, he terminated policies that were slashing 442 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 3: the numbers crossing illegally. And he also said this building 443 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 3: a massive wall that spans the entire southern border is 444 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: not a serious policy solution. It is a waste of 445 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 3: money that diverts attention from genuine threats to our homeland secure, 446 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: genuine threats to homeland security. What what is that? 447 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 8: Joe? 448 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 3: Mums at school board meetings who don't want their kids 449 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 3: indoctrinated with a radical gender theory. As for this new 450 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 3: plan that he's announced today, as The New York Post 451 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: points out, such a crackdown is a mirage. Even if 452 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: the executive order was fully enforced, one point eight million 453 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: asylum seekers will still be allowed to enter the US 454 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 3: every year. One point eight million Joining me now, is 455 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: senior editor at large of Newsweek, Josh Hammer. Josh, what 456 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: do you make of President Biden's announcement? Will this plan 457 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: solve the border crisis? 458 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: You know, reader, A few things jump right, off the 459 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: top fast on those clips that we just saw. The 460 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 2: first thing that I want to note is that clip 461 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: of Joe Biden in his basement from twenty twenty, back 462 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 2: when he was running the Basement campaign during COVID. You know, 463 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: he's clearly all in that video, but he's actually remarkably 464 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 2: more elusive than he is now. So I just want 465 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: to make that very fast point. Rather, he has declined 466 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: a lot just over the past three to three and 467 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: a half years or so, because that video in twenty 468 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: is very, very different than what we're getting nowadays. But 469 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 2: to the actual immigration ordering question here, so the relevant 470 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: legal section, it's it's the Immigration and Nationality Acts, Section 471 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 2: two twelve F, which is codified at eight US Code 472 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 2: eleven eighty two, subsection f threason I know all this 473 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: because as they frequently invoked section of American immigration law 474 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: during the Trump administration, a lot of border hawks, such 475 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: as myself, were talking about invoking two twelve F. There 476 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: are a few things note here. One, if Joe Biden 477 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: thinks that invoking this is somehow a panacea to our 478 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: border crisis, why in the world is he just doing 479 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 2: it now? I mean, why are we waiting until the 480 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: summer of a presidential election year. Why wasn't he doing 481 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 2: it one year ago, two years ago, three years ago. 482 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: I mean essentially just after this president took office in 483 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: January of twenty twenty one, that's when the border crisis searched. 484 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: And as you just showed there, it has a lot 485 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 2: to do with the fact that on day one he 486 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: started repealing Trump executive orders. So if he actually cared 487 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 2: or to shut down the border, he could have done 488 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: this one year ago, two years ago, three years ago. 489 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: The second point to make here is that the fact 490 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: that Joe Biden is now belatedly conceding that he has 491 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: he has this executive authority. This belies the utter lie 492 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: that was the so called bipartisan border bill at the 493 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: us N and was talking about just a few months ago, 494 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: back when Chuck Schumer and then James Langford, the useful 495 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: idiot from Oklahoma, they had this so called bipartisan border bill, 496 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: which thankfully didn't see the light of day. It was 497 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: a terrible bill. But at the time Biden was saying, 498 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: give me a law of Congress. I need a law. 499 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: Now he's saying he could just do it unilaterally, So 500 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: he's all over the place here. The final point to 501 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: make here READO. I think this obviously has everything to 502 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: do with domestic politics in an election year. I think 503 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: what Joe Biden is trying to do here because he 504 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: is a deeply cynical man. All he cares about is 505 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: his domestic polling. We see it in every single issue 506 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: very much, including the Israel Hamas Warre and Gaza as well. 507 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: I think what he is doing here is he has 508 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: seen them moderates and independence want a secure border. But 509 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: what he's anticipating, I think, is that far left legal 510 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 2: groups are going to immediately file a lawsuit, as the 511 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 2: ECLU has already done, and I think that he's anticipating 512 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: that the courts will gum up the works, which will 513 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: simultaneously allow him to say, oh, look, I'm a border hawk, 514 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm trying to secure the border, while on the other hand, 515 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: you will actually still have the open border. So it's 516 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: a deeply, deeply cynical maneuver. 517 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: I think, deeply cynical. But he can't change history. He 518 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: can't change the fact that he terminated those Trump policies 519 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: straightway as soon as he entered the Oval office, and 520 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: just this week we've had another symptom of this border crisis, 521 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 3: authorities alleging that illegal immigrant was responsible for shooting to 522 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: New York police officers. Josh, So, this relationship with crimes 523 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: being committed by illegal immigrants, all the other consequences of 524 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: this enormous influx of people who've entered illegally, it is 525 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: being felt in cities across America, Rita. 526 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: It's everywhere. It is truly everywhere. So I'll give you 527 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: just one example. In late March, I was speaking in Columbus, Ohio, 528 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: which is the capital of the state of Ohio. I 529 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: was speaking to a group of lawyers about the war 530 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: and Gaza actually and anyway, afterwards, I met with a 531 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: prominent statewide elected official from the state of Ohio. I 532 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: will not name names because it was off the record conversation, 533 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: but I was talking with this official about the immigration issue, 534 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: and I basically said, you know, sir so and so, 535 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: you know your state is not a border state, but 536 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: what are you doing about immigration X y Z. And 537 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: he essentially cut me off and he said, Josh, what 538 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: are you talking about. Every state nowadays is a border state, 539 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: because it is. Because we were feeling the pains of 540 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: this all throughout the country. When you look at the 541 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: number of migrants that Joe Biden has been flying in, 542 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: has been busting in it from the border. They have 543 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: reached all of the extremities of the United States at 544 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: this point. It is very much not limited to Texas 545 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: and the Rio Grande Valley is not limited to the 546 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: high snore in desert in Arizona. It is truly everywhere. 547 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: I mean here in Floria where I live. Florida is 548 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: not technically a border, say because we're surrounded mostly by water. 549 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: But you know, there was a horrific instance of legal 550 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: alien crime in Palm Beach County just a month ago 551 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: or so, and the Palm Beach County Sheriff was actually 552 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: very outspoken about this. He said, this individual who committed 553 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 2: these horrific rapes and traffickings and the child predations which 554 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: I believe the alien was involved in all of that, 555 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: the Palm Beach County Sheriff said, he should not have 556 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: been here. He should not have been here, period, fal stop, 557 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: end of his story. There are so many stories like 558 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: this anecdotally. The murder trial by the way of the 559 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: Killer of Lake and Riley and Athens, Georgia has just started, 560 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: so hopefully we will see a modicum of justice there. 561 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: But this is a national national travesty, and Joe Biden 562 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: to put a mile lea Rita is a little late. 563 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 8: To the game. 564 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 3: But on crime, we are saying these soft on crime 565 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: prosecutors Das and Meys, the Boston med A Democrat and 566 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 3: Michelle wou she is pushing an entire soft on crime agenda, 567 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: insisting that things like shoplifting, breaking and entering underage drinking, 568 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: drug position, larceny threats, they should not be prosecuted. And 569 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 3: she also wants the Boston Police gang database to be shuttered. 570 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 3: How politicians like this getting elected, Josh are Democrats so 571 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: dominant in parts of America that they can pretty much 572 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: propose anything and still be elected. 573 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, if you're a Soros from the far 574 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 2: left prosecutor, you don't think that grand larceny or robbery 575 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: or something else should be prosecuted. But apparently you think 576 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: that alleged fraudulent bookkeeping, you know, which a Trump organization 577 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 2: may or may not have done with the legal expenses 578 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: of male Cohen in further into some undefined crime. I mean, 579 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: just look at Alvin Bragg in New York City. He 580 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: has been building up this case against Trump for many 581 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: years now. Meanwhile, grand larceny, burglary, robbery, all these crimes 582 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: have absolutely sort in New York City. If you are 583 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: a robber or a burglar, you probably know that you 584 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 2: are not going to be prosecuted. 585 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: Again. 586 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: If you're Donald Trump, then you I guess you know 587 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: that you're gonna be prosecuted. So part of the problem, 588 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: read it really is George Soros. I mean, George Soros 589 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: is a singular menacing force when it comes to American 590 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: politics and when it comes to the problem of the 591 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: so called progressive prosecutor in general. He funds them all 592 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: across the country, in Los Angeles and San Francisco. Now 593 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: there is a silver lining here, which is that some 594 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: cities have shown signs of not having it anymore. So 595 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: in San Francisco two years ago you have these Soros 596 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: fund the prosecutor, Chessa Woudin, who actually was recalled in 597 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: a recall election. Now unfortunately the successor wasn't too much better, 598 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: but at least slightly better. But in Portland, Oregon, which 599 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: is essentially the American home of Antifa, that's a far 600 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: left city. If there ever were, if there ever were one, 601 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,479 Speaker 2: The Soros from the Progressive Prosecutor actually just lost, actually 602 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: just lost his primary in Portland, Oregon, just a couple 603 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. So there are some signs of a pushback. 604 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: Me personally, I take solace in the fact that I 605 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: live in a red state where I don't deal with 606 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: any of this nonsense, and I hope the more say 607 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: in America choose to make that leap from these blue 608 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: states that are written by crime, written by legal aliens, 609 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: and make the move to red states, which are home 610 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: to civilizational sanity. 611 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 3: Now Hunter Biden's federal gun trial is underway. The jury, 612 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 3: we'll hear about how the president's son got his brother's widow, 613 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 3: who he was having sex with at the time, hooked 614 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 3: on crackcoat Caine. Hailey Biden is one of the people 615 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 3: who's going to be giving evidence in this case. She's 616 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 3: the one who was so worried about Hunter having a 617 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: gun that she took it and dumped it in a 618 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 3: bin near a school. Tell me about her being a 619 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 3: witness in this case, Josh, and the fact that she 620 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 3: had a recent visit from President Biden. I mean, is 621 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 3: that a proper thing to be doing, to be visiting 622 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 3: someone who's going to be a witness at your son's trial. 623 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: No, it is most certainly not a proper thing to 624 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 2: do here. I mean the optics of this stinct to 625 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 2: high heaven. Frankly. I mean it has all of the 626 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 2: luck of the President of the United States trying to 627 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 2: intimidate a key witness right before his son is facing 628 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: potentially of the twenty five years in prison. So you know, Look, 629 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: Democrats know rita that the media will cover for them 630 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: no matter what, So they feel totally emboldened to do 631 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: stunts like this out in the open, knowing that no 632 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: one other than you know, than conservatives like me will 633 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 2: come on a rant about it. But the New York 634 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: Times Washington Post, they will never raise an eyebrow to them. 635 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 2: This obviously looks fully proper, but it is anything but that. Look, 636 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: the Hunter Biden gun trial, A lot of my fellow 637 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: conservatives are not really paying a lot of attention to 638 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: it because the Special Counsel David Weiss has not charged 639 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden with foreign stuff, with Fara, with Ukraine, China, 640 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: any of the jewsier stuff. But the reason that I 641 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 2: am paying attention to this gun trial, Rida is because 642 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden is dead to rights on these actual charges, 643 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: on these gun charges there which essentially alleged that he 644 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 2: was a drug addict at the time that he purchased 645 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: a firearm, that he was trafficking in that firearm while 646 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: being a drug addict. The reason that we know that 647 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 2: he is dead to rights and that he has committed 648 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: this crime is because he literally admitted it. He literally 649 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 2: admitted it in his memoir Beautiful Things in twenty twenty one. 650 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: I don't know who his lawyer was, who was literally 651 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 2: agent once who thought that was a good idea, but 652 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 2: we know, based on the audio on his laptop and 653 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: in the memoir itself, that he did this. So the 654 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 2: reason that I'm following this trial closely, Rita, is because 655 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 2: this is actually going to be a perfect test of 656 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: the impartiality or fairness of America's justice system after what 657 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: happened to Donald Trump just now, in particular, if there 658 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 2: is anything anything left to take any pride in whatsoever 659 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: in the American criminal justice system, Hunter Biden has to 660 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 2: go to jail, not home confinements, not probation, nothing like that. 661 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 2: He is dead to rights on these charges up the 662 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 2: twenty five years. I want to see a prison sentence. 663 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 3: Now before you go, I've got to ask you about 664 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 3: Senator John Fitterman from the great state of Pennsylvania. He's 665 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 3: a changed man. He went into a facility has come 666 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 3: out completely different and more coherent, just with a better 667 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 3: sense and grasp of everything. And he recently received a 668 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: standing ovation at Isshiva University after telling students in a 669 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 3: commencement's address that he was profoundly disappointed with his alma mater, Harvard, 670 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 3: and he was so ashamed that he took off his 671 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 3: Crimson Harvard hood. Let's have a look, and personally, I. 672 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 9: Did not fundamentally believe that it's worked for me to 673 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 9: wear this today. 674 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 3: And the students sure did appreciate his comments. They celebrated. 675 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: So just briefly, Josh, what happened to Fetterman? How is 676 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 3: he so dramatically different to the man from two years ago? 677 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, John Fetterman might be the first person that I've 678 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 2: ever seen who suffered literal physical brain damage and became 679 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: a much like more sane and rational human being as 680 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 2: a result of that. I never I've never seen it before, 681 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, But you know, if you 682 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 2: go back to the to the Pennsylvania US Senate race 683 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty two, you know, John Fetterman did 684 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 2: not run as a moderator. He ran as essentially a 685 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 2: squad aoc elin omar candidate in the US Senate. If 686 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 2: he had continued on that, on that trajectory and had 687 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: not suffered that stroke, he would be among the most 688 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,439 Speaker 2: radical left wing senders in the entire US Senate, along 689 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: with people like Tammy Baldwin and Bernie Sanders probably people 690 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 2: like that. But he's a change man now. And you know, 691 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor. I don't I don't claim to 692 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 2: know what the correlation is between having a physical stroke 693 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 2: and somehow emerging much more san rationalism as a. 694 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 3: Result of it. 695 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 2: What I can tell you, and that video that we 696 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: just saw kind of underscores his points. You know, he's 697 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 2: become something of a folk hero. Frankly, in the American 698 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: Jewish community. I have a lot of a lot of 699 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 2: Jewish conservative friends, Jewish Republicans who are even just just 700 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 2: laudably praising John Fetterman. A couple of them are even 701 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 2: saying that they're going to write in the vote for 702 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 2: him this fall. I obviously I am not going to 703 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 2: do that myself, but the fact that John Fetterman has 704 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,479 Speaker 2: emerged like this, especially on the Israel issue, on fighting 705 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 2: anti Semitism, it is a small sign of hope, reader, 706 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 2: amidst a Democratic Party that increasingly overall really does seem 707 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: to be lurching to the very very very far left 708 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: on this issue and other issues. But people like Fetterman, 709 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: I guess, do give at least a small modicum of hope. 710 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's an outlier, and I don't know if 711 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 3: the stroke had anything to do with it, but yeah, 712 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 3: he disappeared for a period, came back, and now we 713 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 3: have a man who's far more lucid, far more centrist. 714 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 3: He was radically radically left when he was first elected 715 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 3: to the Senate. Josh Hamma, thank you so much for 716 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 3: your time this evening. 717 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 7: Thank you still to come. 718 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 3: Nigel Ferrant makes his political comeback as thousands rally against 719 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 3: two tier policing in London. That's after this welcome back. 720 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 3: Nigel Farage announced his political comeback yesterday, vowing to take 721 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 3: on the Tories himself as a Reform Party candidate in 722 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 3: July's general election. The television presenter and Brexiteer also reclaimed 723 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,919 Speaker 3: his leadership of the right wing Eurosceptic Reform Party, who 724 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 3: have been giving the Conservative Party trouble ever since they're 725 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 3: founding in twenty eighteen as the Brexit Party. Former Brexit 726 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 3: Party member of the European Parliament and current broadcaster Alex 727 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 3: Phillips joins me Now Alex. A lot of media headlines 728 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 3: claimed this is a shock announcement from Farage. Were you 729 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 3: surprised or did you see this coming? 730 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 11: Know what, I've got a bit of an inside track 731 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 11: on this because the party had actually asked me at 732 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 11: one point to stand in Clacton, and I'd been having 733 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 11: conversations with Nigel about it and then decided against it 734 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 11: actually because I need to focus on my broadcasting career, 735 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 11: and I knew that Nigel had always been in two 736 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 11: minds about whether to stand or not, and I always 737 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 11: knew that he was looking at Clacton as the potential 738 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 11: seat because of the favorability of standing there. 739 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 7: So it doesn't surprise me. Actually he's been out on 740 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 7: the campaign trail. 741 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 11: Knowing him like I do, he'd have got this great 742 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 11: sense of uplift and all the people saying please stand, 743 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 11: please stand, watching the polls begin to move and he 744 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 11: just can't resist the fight. It'd be very difficult for him, 745 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 11: I think, to sit on the sidelines and potentially see 746 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 11: other people elected and him not. 747 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 3: Well. The bulk of the media loves to give Nigel 748 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 3: a terrible time. They love to hate him. But what 749 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 3: has been able to achieve the success that he had 750 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 3: with Bregsord. One could argue he is the most consequential 751 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 3: British politician we've saying since Thatcher. What can he realistically 752 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 3: achieve though? In the general election where there was such 753 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 3: a short campaign period. 754 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, it's so difficult to call, especially under 755 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 11: first past the post, which just doesn't favor small parties. 756 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 7: But you know, when we've had. 757 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,720 Speaker 11: A resurgent UKIP, a resurgent Brexit Party, other political outfits 758 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 11: that he led into general elections at the same time, 759 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 11: we had a Conservative party that was also strong and 760 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 11: voters who were attractive to those right wing policies, and 761 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 11: Nigel's presence would almost make the Conservatives then ate what 762 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 11: he was saying to. 763 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 7: The voters, and the voter would go. 764 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 11: Well, do you know what, because it's the bigger party, 765 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 11: the legacy party, I'm going to put my vote there. 766 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 11: What's happened is the Conservatives have not delivered and so 767 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 11: this time around you've got a resurge and reform with 768 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 11: the Conservatives backs against the ropes. So it'll be interesting 769 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 11: to see now whether he can actually tip it over 770 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 11: the top and get seats in the parliament. 771 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 3: Yba well in front. They're expected to win, and as 772 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 3: you mentioned, the UK does have a first past the 773 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 3: post system. Is he Forage going to just split that 774 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 3: Conservative vote and enshore a labor landslide? 775 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 7: Do you know what? 776 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 11: It's interesting because this is what voters in the UK 777 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 11: are always told. This is a binary choice between the 778 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 11: two legacy parties and a vote for anybody else is 779 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 11: a wasted vote, something I utterly detest in our so 780 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 11: called democracy. But like I said, this time the Conservative 781 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 11: Party is backs against the votes. 782 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 7: They're not going to win in a month of Sundays. 783 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 11: There's no way you're going to see a Conservative policy competition, 784 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 11: even a minority government. So with that in mind, why 785 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 11: not just vote for who you want to? It's going 786 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 11: to be a labor government. And do you know what, 787 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 11: having reformed sitting on those opposition benches, which certainly spice 788 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 11: things up. 789 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 3: It would there are a lot of Tory voters who 790 00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 3: are actually fed up because they've had this supposedly conservative 791 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 3: government in power but they've governed like a Labor party 792 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 3: and mad climate policy, mass migration, all sorts of other 793 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 3: issues where if you're a genuine Conservative you're wondering what 794 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 3: you voted for. But Farage is also vowing to target 795 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 3: those voters who are disgruntled labor voters, so he says 796 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 3: he's got something for everybody here. I know it's just 797 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 3: impossible to predict, but we are saying, certainly in this 798 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 3: country where we've got a preferential system, a significant decline 799 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 3: in the support of the major two options Labor and 800 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 3: the Coalition. Is that something that is happening in the UK? 801 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 3: Is there a trend there where a third candidate could 802 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 3: possibly get the largest slice of the vote. 803 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not just in the UK, and it's not 804 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 7: just in Australia. Look at what's happened across Europe as well. 805 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 7: Most of the West are going through the and I think. 806 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 11: Some of these big issues that are resonating with voters 807 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 11: here in the UK, Like you said, the mass migration, 808 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 11: we've had. We've currently got a gross a million people 809 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 11: coming into the UK per year of population sixty eight million. 810 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 7: That is cultural vandalism. 811 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 11: Now, that is something that a lot of countries in 812 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 11: the West are seeing, the sort of curse really of 813 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 11: mass migration. But at the same time there's this pushback 814 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 11: I think against globalization. People feel increasingly in the West 815 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 11: that the people they're voting for are working on behalf 816 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 11: of supernational organizations, international law, sort of globalist trends that 817 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 11: they feel they've lost control, and when they're trying to 818 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 11: hold their politicians to accounts, they feel they can't anymore. 819 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 11: So we've seen it now in France first of all 820 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 11: with Macron, who isn't sort of nominally right wing particularly, 821 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 11: but with on Marsh back then did set up a 822 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 11: back party. We've seen it in countries like Italy. We're 823 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 11: seeing it in the Netherlands with hire Builder winning that 824 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 11: last election. This is something that's happening across the West. 825 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 11: Voters are sick to death of feeling ignored by what 826 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 11: they see as an elite who pandered to big companies, 827 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 11: who pandered to these big sort of supernational organizations, and 828 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 11: frankly don't listen to the concerns they should be listening 829 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 11: to on. 830 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 7: The ground. 831 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:18,399 Speaker 1: Now. 832 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 3: Rishi Sunak has been trying to appease the conservative voter, vowing, 833 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 3: for instance, to change the law to keep trans women 834 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 3: out of female only spaces like bathrooms. But is anyone 835 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 3: buying this figause this is not how he has governed, 836 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 3: This is not how previous conservative prime ministers in recent 837 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 3: years of government governed. To find his conservative credentials at 838 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 3: this late stage, is anyone convinced. 839 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 7: No, it's gone. 840 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 11: They've done it, They've blown it, They've lied way too 841 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 11: many times. You know, just over a year ago readA 842 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 11: Rishi Suna couldn't answer the question whether a woman could 843 00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 11: have a penis. 844 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 7: So that tells you all you need to know. He 845 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 7: wouldn't pass your. 846 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 11: GTFY biology in this country, and he's certainly not passing. 847 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 7: The tens Prime Minister. But we've also had successive Conservative governments, 848 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 7: every single election, every manifesto say we're going to cut 849 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 7: immigration down to the tens of thousands, and it's over 850 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 7: a million. You couldn't make it up. I woke up 851 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 7: this morning, bite and. 852 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 11: Nearly to join you UK time, looked on Twitter and 853 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 11: the first thing I see is that wish he's soon 854 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 11: act saying he's going to put a cap on migration. 855 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 7: We've had fourteen years to do that, Sunshine, and you haven't. 856 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 3: Oh dear. 857 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: Now. 858 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 3: We had massive crowds marching through central London on the wakend. 859 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 3: They were demanding an end to London's two tiered policing systems, 860 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 3: the issue we've talked about often on this program. There 861 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 3: were carrying English flags at Saint George, there were Israeli 862 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 3: flags there, all sorts of flags. There looked like many, many, 863 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 3: thousands tending. Though the media said it was just hundred. 864 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 3: Segments of the media were not convinced. What you just 865 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 3: saw was thousands of people, and they also trying to 866 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 3: paint these people who did turn up as racists, football holigans, 867 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:20,240 Speaker 3: violent drunks, all sorts of descriptions. But there was no violence. 868 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 3: There was no property destruction. There was a bit of singing, though, Alex. 869 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 3: What really happened at this parade other than the singing, 870 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 3: was it a gathering of racist footy houligans who we 871 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 3: should all be terrified of. 872 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 11: Look at those videos, I mean, Rita, the monsters we 873 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 11: have in this country, the threat to civilization may pose, 874 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 11: singing patriotic songs and getting together from all walks of 875 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 11: life to celebrate brig values. What a horrible far right 876 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 11: skinhead movement. We should all be terrified. I mean, it's 877 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,240 Speaker 11: just ridiculous, isn't it. What is wrong with people turning 878 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 11: around and saying, I love the country I'm from and 879 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 11: I want the country i'm from to love itself. 880 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 7: That is what this was about, saying that British values 881 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 7: should be cherished, not slandered, not destroyed. 882 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,760 Speaker 11: And frankly, British values are under threats by the amount 883 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 11: of immigration we're having. 884 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 7: It's just the facts of life and we need to 885 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 7: talk about this. 886 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 11: And those scenes I think were brilliant and I'm really 887 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 11: proud of all the Brits who turned up and went 888 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 11: on that much. 889 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 3: Alex Phillips, thank you so much for your time. And 890 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 3: that's it from May Up next is news No, I'll 891 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 3: see you at eleven tomorrow. Good night,