Speaker 1: I'll get a team. It's the Bloody Project. That's you.
Speaker 2: It's Patrick who's famous with her, but more on that soon.
Speaker 2: It's Tiffany and Cuck who isn't but wants to be.
Speaker 2: She's got leprosy. All that and more coming up in
Speaker 2: today's episode of The You Project.
Speaker 1: I'm Craig Harper.
Speaker 2: I'll be your host for the next hour or so,
Speaker 2: So strap in, kick back, hold on, and just have
Speaker 2: a great ride.
Speaker 1: Hi, Ti the right show. I don't think on the
Speaker 1: right show.
Speaker 3: We're not on the right track. Hi heart, are you
Speaker 3: good morning?
Speaker 2: That was me putting on my pretend FM voice that
Speaker 2: I never had, because no, that's not true. I was
Speaker 2: on FM on Grubby and DD for a while, but
Speaker 2: I definitely didn't have this voice because this is fucking stupid.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless seems to be very popular in the FM
Speaker 2: kind of space.
Speaker 1: But all that more coming up. How's your leprosy on
Speaker 1: your right shoulder?
Speaker 3: I can't wait till it's healed, because every podcast starts
Speaker 3: with you telling the world I have a leprosy on
Speaker 3: my shoulder.
Speaker 1: It is getting better.
Speaker 2: Actually, Patrick, don't ask what it is because our audience
Speaker 2: will hate me.
Speaker 1: Because she's explained that the last five in a row.
Speaker 1: She'll tell you later, mate, She'll tell you later. You
Speaker 1: trained someone this morning, a little one on one with
Speaker 1: a lady. How did you go?
Speaker 3: Yep, fabulous, a little bit of pad work to start
Speaker 3: their Friday? Could you get better than that? Really on Friday?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Just punching shit on a Friday morning? Do women?
Speaker 1: Some women?
Speaker 2: I know that's a very genuine answer, But do ladies
Speaker 2: love punching shit as much as or more than we
Speaker 2: might think?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? They do. And one of my favorite things is
Speaker 3: teaching someone to box and having someone realize in that moment,
Speaker 3: on a visceral level, that they've never used their body
Speaker 3: to create force or boundaries or power. It's really cathartic.
Speaker 3: Like sometimes do a bit of teaching, throw a few punches,
Speaker 3: and they'll just look up and you'll see they've had
Speaker 3: this full body feeling of like wow, that felt amazing.
Speaker 1: Wow, Yes, and it is.
Speaker 2: I guess when you kind of get a little bit
Speaker 2: of skill and timing and coordination and you hit the
Speaker 2: pads or the bag or the whatever and it kind
Speaker 2: of makes a sound, it's like, oh, yeah, that's actually yep,
Speaker 2: you fucking hit that.
Speaker 1: You fucking yeah.
Speaker 2: You didn't just kind of sadly tap it, like pouring
Speaker 2: away it, you know, like, ah, but you actually fucking
Speaker 2: hit that like a.
Speaker 1: Person who's hitting shit. That's a good feeling, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Oh it's the best.
Speaker 3: It's the best.
Speaker 1: Patrick.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine you being overly boxery, no disrespect. I
Speaker 2: may be completely wrong. Have you ever hit the pads?
Speaker 2: Have you ever hit a heavy bag? Have you ever
Speaker 2: hit a floor to ceiling?
Speaker 1: I think I did it Harper's once, you know when
Speaker 1: you put that boxing ring in. Yeah, yes, I remember, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think I punched around the ring a couple
Speaker 1: of times. I think also that I've done. Even if
Speaker 1: you there, someone stands there with pads and you just
Speaker 1: punch the pads. It's more a coordination thing than a
Speaker 1: strength thing. But I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: Can I just tell you everyone that Patrick just simulated punching.
Speaker 1: And badly. I'm not a boxer, but fucking now, the
Speaker 1: wet paper bag comes to mind, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: I don't think you'd get out of it. I think
Speaker 2: you'd be stuck in there. Can I just say, oh,
Speaker 2: he's going, he's going, He's get up and.
Speaker 1: He should he should.
Speaker 3: Oh God, he's pulled out a samurai.
Speaker 1: What happens that I have a right behind I do
Speaker 1: ti chi, I use weapons. That's a serious weapon I have.
Speaker 1: I do have a license for it.
Speaker 2: To make it clear, Yeah, dear machete police go to
Speaker 2: Banella knock on his door because that makes a machete
Speaker 2: look like an icy polstick.
Speaker 3: Taxpayers have paid a lot of money for that to
Speaker 3: be placed into a certain bin.
Speaker 1: No way I bought that in China. That's my tai
Speaker 1: chi broadsword. That doesn't seem to me to be within
Speaker 1: the spirit and energy of tai chi, a weapon that
Speaker 1: can kill people.
Speaker 2: I'm not a tai chi expert, but you know swords,
Speaker 2: among other things, patrick are for killing people.
Speaker 1: Well as you know. Tai chi is a proper martial
Speaker 1: art that we call it a soft martial art. And
Speaker 1: the ring quite rightley.
Speaker 2: The idea being the it's because you're a soft martial artist.
Speaker 2: I would love to put you and ring tip in
Speaker 2: the ring with you without your fucking sword. I would
Speaker 2: get myself a bean bag, I would sit back with
Speaker 2: a protein bar or three, and I would ask her
Speaker 2: just a toy with you for about four and a
Speaker 2: half rounds and then fucking annihilate you.
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what we would end up hugging.
Speaker 2: We would know, you would know, you wouldn't you might
Speaker 2: know how to incentivize her. I would just and then
Speaker 2: I'd put it up on YouTube. Here's Patrick getting smashed
Speaker 2: by a mostly woman. I like pretty much all women,
Speaker 2: except for that thirty percent that we talk about.
Speaker 1: I tell all of my tai chiese students that I've
Speaker 1: won every one of my fights by one hundred meters.
Speaker 1: I think you've said that seven times, bro. That's my philosophy.
Speaker 1: It's my philosopher. Look, tai Chi is a slow moving
Speaker 1: martial art form. So we do punches and kicks, but
Speaker 1: we do them really slowly. So it's about core stability
Speaker 1: and balance. And it is a slow moving meditation as
Speaker 1: opposed to a very.
Speaker 2: Boxing is a fast moving get punched in the phase
Speaker 2: thirteen times while you're doing your slow moving martial art.
Speaker 2: It's like, what, how fucking inefficient is a slow moving
Speaker 2: martial art in a dynamic fight?
Speaker 1: Look, I think we built that muscle memory, right, Ah?
Speaker 1: What was that? What was that? Ultimately was the Ultimate
Speaker 1: Fighting Challenge where they put people of all the different
Speaker 1: martial arts into the ring and you could use anything
Speaker 1: like boxing or kick boxing or kind of I think
Speaker 1: it's commonly known as the UFC. Patrick. Yeah, still alive
Speaker 1: and well in twenty twenty. What was that thing back
Speaker 1: in the nineties was that the ultramat Fighting Championship. I
Speaker 1: have never watched ever, ever, ever, ever watched anybody doesn't
Speaker 1: show at all.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's all right mate. You're not here for that.
Speaker 2: You're here to enlighten us on technology. And by the way,
Speaker 2: all right, tip, can you tell everyone why Patrick's famous?
Speaker 1: We need to give that a little bit of air
Speaker 1: time just to keep his self esteem intact.
Speaker 3: Front page of the local rag for being a book nude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's the possible reason why. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not Vogue, it's not even Playboy, it's the Morble News.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're more likely to be on Playgirl than Playboy.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so whatever they are, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: So why are you on.
Speaker 2: The front of the Banella fucking gazette.
Speaker 1: Brand brand the Land? Let's see the Land? I knew
Speaker 1: it had started with b the rural Rag. Why are
Speaker 1: you on the front page? Bro? Can I just say
Speaker 1: slow news Day. No. The reason is that there's are
Speaker 1: one of the journalists there has been trying to promote
Speaker 1: our local neighborhood house of which I've been involved with
Speaker 1: for many years, and I run our local book group,
Speaker 1: and so just to try to get people more involved
Speaker 1: in activities like reading, like joining up.
Speaker 2: When you say one of the journalists there, would I
Speaker 2: be more accurate when I say the journalists there?
Speaker 1: No, come on, come on, come on. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you're not that journalist, are you. No, I didn't write
Speaker 1: the article.
Speaker 3: I'm going to put these photos up in the typ
Speaker 3: group because Kenny did shot that photo.
Speaker 1: What a ripper. This is a handsome.
Speaker 2: Oh Patrick, just and you know what you should do?
Speaker 2: Host the comment that he said sent to you as well.
Speaker 2: Screenshot that. Now that we've brought you back down to
Speaker 2: earth after your meteoric rise in the free press, not
Speaker 2: so free press, let's talk about technology. I don't even
Speaker 2: know what this means. Ricking your phone is the new
Speaker 2: dry January? Does that mean just getting off your phone?
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: No, it's a a little bit different than that. There's
Speaker 1: a little device called a brick. It's like a little
Speaker 1: a little rectangle a magnet on the back. You can
Speaker 1: stick it to your fridge and what it can do
Speaker 1: is it can deactivate apps, so you choose which apps
Speaker 1: you want to have turned off at nighttime. So it's
Speaker 1: about detoxing. So January is generally one of those months
Speaker 1: where people try to go off alcohol, and the idea
Speaker 1: behind this is to go dry January and not use
Speaker 1: all the apps, not get all the notifications. So it's
Speaker 1: just trying to calm down your life by using this
Speaker 1: electronic device. And so you can set a time period.
Speaker 1: You can say, all right, so from six pm up
Speaker 1: until you know, nine am. I don't want notifications. I
Speaker 1: don't want apps pinging me, I don't want Facebook Messenger,
Speaker 1: I don't want any of that. And all you do
Speaker 1: is you take your phone and you just tap the
Speaker 1: device and then you won't get any of those notifications.
Speaker 1: So you can still get crucial stuff like phone calls
Speaker 1: if it's important from someone you know that needs to
Speaker 1: contact you, but you can turn off all the clutter
Speaker 1: in your life, all that electronic clutter. When you get
Speaker 1: pings on your phone, I mean, you'd know yourself. You
Speaker 1: know there's a notification that comes through. It might be
Speaker 1: news related, or it could just be social media, and
Speaker 1: this is a way of encouraging people, and more people
Speaker 1: are getting It cost fifty nine bucks and it looks
Speaker 1: like a little It just basically splocks the different smartphone apps.
Speaker 1: It's a little gray magnet and you just check it
Speaker 1: on the fridge and you can just kind of keep
Speaker 1: your life electronically quiet. Would it not just be simpler
Speaker 1: to put your phone on airplane mode? Well, not necessarily,
Speaker 1: because then no one can contact you. So exactly exactly
Speaker 1: my point. But what if Tiff needs to get a
Speaker 1: hold of you, what if something urgent?
Speaker 2: If Tiff needs to get a hold of me at
Speaker 2: three am, then she can ring Scott. She can ring
Speaker 2: the man with whom she is currently tracking Steady as
Speaker 2: Mary says, she's tracking Square or fuck, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know whatever it is.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the man, the dance with no pants man
Speaker 2: that she currently almost cohabits with, that one if she
Speaker 2: needs during me, we're in trouble where I know, like you,
Speaker 2: you do make a point, well, Mary, if they come
Speaker 2: like Ron and Mary, that's that's my big fucking hurdle there, right,
Speaker 2: because that But how have you ever had.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have but the few phone calls that.
Speaker 2: I've had at three am, they're fucking terrifying because you
Speaker 2: know this is not going to be good.
Speaker 1: No one's ringing me to chat.
Speaker 3: So okay, I do not disturb on every night. I'm
Speaker 3: so precious about my sleep that calls don't come through
Speaker 3: between I think eight and seven am.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a feature on my phone that only allows
Speaker 1: a certain people to get through. Or you can have
Speaker 1: a system whereby if the person calls three times in succession,
Speaker 1: it let's go through after the third. So if it
Speaker 1: would say the hospital calling and it wasn't a number
Speaker 1: that you knew, you can have it pushed through that way.
Speaker 1: So some smartphones have some really good features to help
Speaker 1: your privacy, but be in a case of an emergency,
Speaker 1: you know, they can do some amazing things like that.
Speaker 1: There's a distress button on my phone where if you
Speaker 1: hit the power button a few times in rapid succession,
Speaker 1: it calls all the people in my chain of contacts,
Speaker 1: the ones they're close to, let them know that I
Speaker 1: might be in distress, and for them to call me.
Speaker 1: So there's some great features built into smartphones. When we
Speaker 1: dive a little bit deeper into them, particularly if older
Speaker 1: people are using them. Some have full detection as well,
Speaker 1: which is great. You know, car crash detection, so if
Speaker 1: you're in a car accident, it will know that that's
Speaker 1: happened and ring people. The problem with Mary's smartphone, and
Speaker 1: God bless her.
Speaker 2: I mean this in the nicest way. She's not smart
Speaker 2: enough to use it. I love her, she does not
Speaker 2: know how to. Of course she's smart, but yeah, she's
Speaker 2: got a phone that can do a million things, and
Speaker 2: it's just at eighty six. It's just all My mum
Speaker 2: taps the phone, so you know how, you just touch
Speaker 2: it with you. She taps it like a fucking woodpecker.
Speaker 2: I'm like me, stop attacking your phone, just Patrick, Keeping
Speaker 2: your bedroom door open at night might improve airflow enough
Speaker 2: to lower carbon dioxide levels and deepen our sleep. I
Speaker 2: think that is probably. I leave my door open every
Speaker 2: night for that very reason, and lots of science telling us. Well.
Speaker 1: I need to apologize first off, because when I stayed
Speaker 1: at your place last year and you kept your door
Speaker 1: wide open, I thought creepy.
Speaker 2: But now you're in my fucking bed. What are you
Speaker 2: pretending that you're in the other room?
Speaker 1: Oh? I see what we're doing here. Well, it's something
Speaker 1: that I've started doing myself, is leaving. I've never had
Speaker 1: my door open. I always closed my door, but now
Speaker 1: I'd keep the door open because it's for airflow. And
Speaker 1: so real research has been done into this and to
Speaker 1: seeing what sort of levels of CO two are being generated,
Speaker 1: because of course, every time we breathe, where belching out
Speaker 1: carbon dioxide and that builds up in a closed room
Speaker 1: to the point where it actually can impact our sleep
Speaker 1: and the quality of our sleep and our health and
Speaker 1: so effectively turns our room into a co to bubble.
Speaker 1: And so research has been done. They've looked at you know,
Speaker 1: they watched people, they measured the levels of CO two
Speaker 1: in the room, and they found that just keeping that
Speaker 1: fresh oxygen coming through, allowing you to breathe, helped people
Speaker 1: sleep a lot better. So do you know what else
Speaker 1: you could do? Patrick? You could put a yaka on
Speaker 1: each corner of your bed, A yuker. What's a yucker?
Speaker 1: I don't know what you are you kidding me? What's
Speaker 1: a yucker? Tif? Do you know what a yucker is?
Speaker 3: I know what a yucker?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, go on. A plant. It's a plant.
Speaker 2: Plant so they breathe in carbon dioxide and read out
Speaker 2: for one of the better term, oxygen.
Speaker 1: Crago only when there's light. Plants use up oxygen when
Speaker 1: it's dark, so they're going to.
Speaker 2: Be don't plants, for want of a better term, exhale
Speaker 2: oxygen in lights.
Speaker 1: That's how they's photosynthesis. So you leave the light on
Speaker 1: all night. There you go.
Speaker 2: Problem solved, Okay, and you just replace Yeah, you just
Speaker 2: put a UV tube in the roof and you're getting
Speaker 2: a tan, You're getting oxygen. Fucking life is good, except
Speaker 2: you're going to need to wear those eye shades that
Speaker 2: you get in Quantus up the point end where tiff
Speaker 2: flies while I'm down in the smoking seats.
Speaker 1: Imagine this right. So Crago has put all these plants
Speaker 1: around his room, thinking that it's dark that they produce oxygen.
Speaker 1: He goes into the deepest sleep ever, and then when
Speaker 1: they find him five weeks later, he's coveted by I
Speaker 1: don't know about this. Hang on, let me ask chatters.
Speaker 3: I might. It's literally just chatters and true.
Speaker 2: I love how you doubt me. You're just assuming that
Speaker 2: I sleep at night. Now that's an erroneous assumption. Fucking
Speaker 2: who sleeps at night.
Speaker 1: That's boring. Man, Let's talk about tech.
Speaker 2: I xi's auto focusing lenses are almost ready to replace
Speaker 2: multifocal glasses.
Speaker 1: Oh fucking how amazing is that?
Speaker 2: Auto focusing So they just if you're looking close or far,
Speaker 2: they adapt accordingly.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, it's really really, really interesting. The technology behind
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. So these were demonstrated at CES in Las Vegas,
Speaker 1: so the Consumer Electronics Show, which I reckon I want
Speaker 1: to go to next year. I'd love it. It's like
Speaker 1: that'd be a pilgrimage for me to see all the.
Speaker 2: That'd be yeah, that'd be like, yeah, some people going
Speaker 2: to Mecca, you know, that'd be yeah.
Speaker 1: Exactly because traditional glasses haven't really changed. I mean, multifolk
Speaker 1: came into the nineteen fifties where they have progressive lenses
Speaker 1: you know that are slightly different, but people struggle with that.
Speaker 1: They trip over things, so they're not perfect. But these
Speaker 1: glasses are designed for far sightedness. So this is something
Speaker 1: that affects most people as they get older and what
Speaker 1: they do. And this is the cool thing is the
Speaker 1: glasses have little senses that sit around the actual lens itself,
Speaker 1: so around the frame of the lens and they basically
Speaker 1: use led so photo diodes, so they're very, very low powered,
Speaker 1: and they can tell what you're focusing on and whether
Speaker 1: you're looking at something close or far away, just by
Speaker 1: the way your eyes are moving, and then they can
Speaker 1: adjust the thickness of the lens accordingly to whatever your
Speaker 1: script happens to be. This is really interesting stuff. I
Speaker 1: think it'd be so cool. Because do you use multifocals crago?
Speaker 1: I do not, but I have my long vision. I
Speaker 1: had surgery last year.
Speaker 2: Actually twenty twenty four, I think I told you that story.
Speaker 2: I went to the optometrist and she said, wow, if
Speaker 2: you don't have surgery. This was in middle of the years.
Speaker 2: She said, you'll be blind in that eye by Christmas.
Speaker 2: I went, oh, well, let's have surgery. So I went, fuck,
Speaker 2: let's do that. Then I've got you know, I can
Speaker 2: clear my timetable. But so my long vision now is
Speaker 2: very good, which it was average, and my short vision
Speaker 2: was rubbish. So my short vision now is not terrible,
Speaker 2: but definitely not good. But my long vision is good.
Speaker 2: Short messages, I only use reading glasses now, but I
Speaker 2: would love I just wonder what the potential consequence physiological
Speaker 2: consequence is when it's always magnifying everything that you're looking at.
Speaker 2: I wonder if your ocular muscles get weaker, and I
Speaker 2: wonder if it acceler rates that like always having everything
Speaker 2: magnified that you're looking at, versus just like me looking
Speaker 2: out the window now at the buildings across the street.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think they sound they sound cool though. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that you'll find though the magnification, Like when
Speaker 1: you're distance looking your eyes. I think the diopter is
Speaker 1: the distance between your eyes, which gives us three D
Speaker 1: depth perception. So if you're looking at something in the distance,
Speaker 1: then that's not going to change because the focal the
Speaker 1: distance focal point is so far away. So I don't
Speaker 1: think the magnification makes it different. It's not like you're
Speaker 1: wearing binoculars. So I think you're still going to get
Speaker 1: that eye exercise. You're just going to see it clearer
Speaker 1: as opposed to it doing the hard lifting for you.
Speaker 2: I remember when my eyes were shit. You know what
Speaker 2: was funny is when I drove to this place to
Speaker 2: see this lady who told me you're going to be
Speaker 2: blind in four or five months. She said to me,
Speaker 2: didn't drive here, did you, and she's like looking at me,
Speaker 2: shaking her head.
Speaker 1: She's like you did and drive? Did you?
Speaker 2: And she's shaking her head and I'm like, no, I
Speaker 2: didn't drive. She's like, good because you would not be
Speaker 2: able to drive with that vision. I went, well, I
Speaker 2: definitely did not drive.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 1: She's like, good to know. Then you go out and
Speaker 1: drove home, right of course? Of course. Hey, do you
Speaker 1: know what was really interesting about this tech is we're
Speaker 1: talking about little LEDs, but what they do is they
Speaker 1: bounce invisible infrared light off the eyes and then they
Speaker 1: measure the reflection, which is the subtle movement of your
Speaker 1: eye and how both eyes converge when they're something close.
Speaker 1: So that's the cool thing about them is that they're
Speaker 1: really clever tech built into them. I just yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought they were really amazing. And this is one of
Speaker 1: the things every year, this Consumer ELECTRICI Electronics Show highlights
Speaker 1: just new gadgets that are coming out, and this could
Speaker 1: be really great for a lot of people to be
Speaker 1: able to, you know, easily seamlessly transition the glass lenses
Speaker 1: so they're not swapping glasses and having to wear multifocals
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. The third one on your list under
Speaker 1: tech I want to talk about because this is funny.
Speaker 1: So Melissa and I have this running joke where if
Speaker 1: Melissa's a worry.
Speaker 2: What right she's if she wrings me and I don't answer,
Speaker 2: and then I don't respond.
Speaker 1: Then thirty minutes or she thinks I'm dead right, you
Speaker 1: think he died.
Speaker 2: And so sometimes she'll ring me I don't get it.
Speaker 2: She'll message me I don't get it, and then like
Speaker 2: two hours or an hour and a half later.
Speaker 1: It's like, are you okay? Question mark?
Speaker 2: You know, I like exclamation mark, And then I just
Speaker 2: tex back, I died, and she's like, well you like
Speaker 2: you know when I joke about dying and death and
Speaker 2: sickness about myself everyone not anyone else. Of course she
Speaker 2: hates it, and she sent me this, you know, And
Speaker 2: sometimes if I can't get on to her, I finally
Speaker 2: get her and I go, did you die?
Speaker 1: She goes, I died. I'm like, oh, well, you sound
Speaker 1: all right. So she sent me tell people what this
Speaker 1: app is about because she sent me this, and she goes,
Speaker 1: this reminded me of you. Yeah, this is taking an app.
Speaker 1: So this is a storm brewing in China. This is
Speaker 1: the most popular app in China at the moment, and
Speaker 1: it's called are You Dead? Yeah, so we did die?
Speaker 1: I didn't die. Yeah. Yeah, it's such a basic concept.
Speaker 1: So you need to check in every two days by
Speaker 1: clicking on a large button right to confirm that you're alive.
Speaker 1: And if you don't, it's going to get in touch
Speaker 1: with all the appointed emergency contacts in your phone. So
Speaker 1: it's just a wave launched last May, and it's just
Speaker 1: in building all this momentum, particularly with young people, which
Speaker 1: is interesting. You'd think it'd be older people or sick people,
Speaker 1: but according to research institutions, there may be up to
Speaker 1: twenty million one person households in China by twenty thirty,
Speaker 1: so that that's quite a lot of people who are
Speaker 1: living alone. And I thought of the three of well,
Speaker 1: the three of us mostly until Tiff ruined that. I
Speaker 1: know we would have start so selfish. Oh go get
Speaker 1: yourself a fucking boyfriend. Yeah, the three amigos is now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what what about us?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all right for you fucking dance with no
Speaker 2: pants four days a week allegedly. Yeah, me and Patrick
Speaker 2: are still fucking jacking off, so that's fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all right. For you, I've got an actual person.
Speaker 2: Ah fucking now, jeepers, I'm could have put out.
Speaker 1: My eyesight's perfectly fine, Craig, Ah, I haven't needed surgery.
Speaker 1: Oh god, how good's podcasting? I wonder if i'll get
Speaker 1: an email about that.
Speaker 2: By the way, if you're listening and you're what, I'm
Speaker 2: only serious, um um Patrick, and in other breaking you
Speaker 2: know what actually surprises me about that?
Speaker 1: On something almost serious? Is that a twenty million into
Speaker 1: one in China two hundred million by twenty thirty. Oh
Speaker 1: you said twenty I mean two hundred sorry two hundred million.
Speaker 2: Ye, well that makes sense because like we're talking about
Speaker 2: a country of one point four billion, so yeah, and
Speaker 2: I would think in a country of one point four billion, tif,
Speaker 2: can you tell me which is.
Speaker 1: Bigger land area Australia or China? Like I think it's similar.
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, I think it's bigger. I think
Speaker 1: we'll just tell.
Speaker 2: Us which is geographically bigger, like land area or actually
Speaker 2: could you give it's the actual but anyway, give or take,
Speaker 2: they're both about the same size. But like one's got
Speaker 2: twenty six to seven million and one's got fourteen hundred million,
Speaker 2: and no wonder you could get lost or go unnoticed
Speaker 2: in a in a country where there's one point four billion.
Speaker 3: What's the answer, tive, China is nine point six million
Speaker 3: kilometers Australia is what.
Speaker 1: Yes kilometers seven? Okay, so yeah it's not.
Speaker 2: I mean it's different, but it's like, so we're eighty
Speaker 2: percent of their land mass with like one fucking whatever
Speaker 2: of their population.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Patrick and go. I think the Great Wall of
Speaker 1: China it could ring all of Australia, not taking into
Speaker 1: account Tassy because that it would need to be longer,
Speaker 1: but I think roughly the Great Wall of China is
Speaker 1: so big it could almost ring the entirety of Australia.
Speaker 1: How massive is that? That's pretty big? That's pretty big.
Speaker 2: That's tell me about solar panels with photo voltaic windows
Speaker 2: that are transparent so they just look like glass, and
Speaker 2: what is it? And up to seventy five percent less energy?
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: It produces seventy five percent less energy? What does it mean? Now? Okay,
Speaker 1: So in China have developed a way to reflect reflect
Speaker 1: the light coming through the window and the photovoltaic cells
Speaker 1: around the edge of the window. And because the problem
Speaker 1: with big apartment blocks is that you've only got a
Speaker 1: very small footprint on the top of a building. But
Speaker 1: if all the windows had these photovoltaic cells built into
Speaker 1: the windows themselves to generate so much more electricity. So
Speaker 1: it's kind of revolutionized the way. You know, you can
Speaker 1: look at generating solar solar energy and this is it.
Speaker 1: It's funny how this hasn't really changed since photo foltaic
Speaker 1: cells were first invented. The idea of you know, because
Speaker 1: when you've also got these thick panels, it also helps
Speaker 1: with energy reduction that you're losing through through winter, so
Speaker 1: heat coming through. So it's like what they call passive home.
Speaker 1: So passive home is where you have double and triple glazing,
Speaker 1: so the window not only generates electricity, but it helps
Speaker 1: insulate the house as well. I think that's what they're
Speaker 1: referring to.
Speaker 2: So are you saying that, like the windows in my
Speaker 2: office could be solar panels, correct?
Speaker 1: Yep, So that's not very cool. It is cool, I know.
Speaker 1: And not only that, because of the thickness of the window,
Speaker 1: it would prevent heat loss in winter, so the heat
Speaker 1: stays inside and conversely in summer it keeps you cooler.
Speaker 1: So it's serving two purposes by helping insulate the home
Speaker 1: and generate electricity at the same time. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of cool.
Speaker 2: About a year ago, I saw this thing on social
Speaker 2: media which I thought was bullshit, and you're about to
Speaker 2: tell me it's not bullshit, and it was Cowess's robot horse,
Speaker 2: and like, yeah, it was like I looked at that,
Speaker 2: I went, that's it's like the coolest thing and the
Speaker 2: stupidest thing ever, because hey, just ride a motorbike, but
Speaker 2: so this dude's riding a robot horse, which looked like
Speaker 2: something literally from a fucking movie, a futuristic movie there is.
Speaker 2: It says on my thing, they're going into production. Is
Speaker 2: that true?
Speaker 1: Cool? Or have you been stooged this? It sounds like
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. It's Kawasaki did this as a
Speaker 1: proof of concept, and there's a section of Kawasaki, the
Speaker 1: motorcycle company that is called Kawsaki Heavy Industries. And so
Speaker 1: they've now showed off an actual full scale model and
Speaker 1: they said that they want to start production. It's going
Speaker 1: to be a little way off though, they're talking that
Speaker 1: it could be up to twenty fifty, but yeah, it's
Speaker 1: going to take a little bit of time. But no, sorry,
Speaker 1: actually no I'm not that's not true. Initial it was
Speaker 1: twenty fifty. Now they're saying it's going to be twenty thirty,
Speaker 1: so ok yeah, okay, so yeah, so this could be revolutionary.
Speaker 1: I thought it looked more like a wolf than a
Speaker 1: horse myself, just quietly. But if you imagine a really big, giant,
Speaker 1: robotic dog thing that you sit on. But the benefit
Speaker 1: of having the multiple legs is that they're an all
Speaker 1: terrain and they don't need because they can place their
Speaker 1: feet in different locations, but they're stable as well. It
Speaker 1: looked amazing the demo that we saw. I think it
Speaker 1: might have been a mock up thing. I don't know
Speaker 1: how true. But now they're saying that they can do it,
Speaker 1: that they'll be able to manufacture it, and they'll have
Speaker 1: them on the market. Would you buy one Crago? Definitely not.
Speaker 2: Definitely not because I've grew up riding dirt bikes in
Speaker 2: that terrain, and there's no way in the world a
Speaker 2: person on one of those could even stay anywhere near me.
Speaker 2: On a dirt bike, it would just be like, I mean,
Speaker 2: dirt bikes have big, massive suspension, lots of travel. I
Speaker 2: can't see how a four legged robot. I mean, you're
Speaker 2: talking about bikes. Some of those bikes go zero to
Speaker 2: one hundred k's in three or four seconds. You literally couldn't.
Speaker 1: You couldn't.
Speaker 2: But having said that, I think it's cool as shit.
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way. If I was six or
Speaker 2: seven grand I might buy one, But I feel like
Speaker 2: they're going to be thirty or forty.
Speaker 1: I think this is really where it had come to.
Speaker 1: The four is in really mountainous areas, so areas where
Speaker 1: there are no tracks, that are no paths, And I
Speaker 1: know what you're saying. I've seen people on dirt bikes,
Speaker 1: still amazing stuff, but that's in such a niche group
Speaker 1: of people, whereas an average person like myself could get
Speaker 1: onto this thing and be able to navigate through really rough,
Speaker 1: steep terrain without the need for the skills that someone
Speaker 1: on who you know, who knows how to ride a
Speaker 1: real Yeah, I guess also if you're using it as
Speaker 1: a horse replacement for one of a better term where
Speaker 1: you're just meandering through the bush anyway, but you're feeding
Speaker 1: it fucking you know, ulp ninety eight, not carrots. But also,
Speaker 1: how cool would it be just to clunk my way
Speaker 1: down Hampton Street to the cafe and tie that bad
Speaker 1: boy up outside like the fucking eighteen hundreds, just with
Speaker 1: a leather strap on a pole, and then just wander
Speaker 1: inside with my fucking cowboy boots in my hat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you did a stetson for that, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2: That It looks we'd just getting under Well, you'd probably
Speaker 2: need a helmet that looks like a stetson. Chinese scientists
Speaker 2: recover ninety eight percent of gold from old phones in
Speaker 2: twenty minutes at low cost, and now over to.
Speaker 1: Patrick, that's seven like an ad, didn't it. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: there are so many precious metals in a lot of
Speaker 1: devices that we use and then throw away. But the
Speaker 1: problem is to try to recover things like gold from
Speaker 1: a phone, you've got to use some pretty terrible acids
Speaker 1: and chem nickels to try to recover that. And now
Speaker 1: they're saying that this new process use its low cost,
Speaker 1: environmentally cleaner and it's able to extract gold from electronic waste,
Speaker 1: and it means that all of the whole idea behind
Speaker 1: e waste recycling could be transformed by the way that
Speaker 1: their recovery gets fast and it's cheap, and it's a
Speaker 1: good wave of not harming the planet with toxic chemicals.
Speaker 1: So no, it's great because you know, if you think
Speaker 1: I've got I reckon, I've got about six or seven
Speaker 1: old phones sitting in a draw in my office, which
Speaker 1: is terrible. But all those electronic devices have all these
Speaker 1: precious elements in them that are going to waste effectively
Speaker 1: but are very hard to recycle.
Speaker 2: Imagine having a conversation at a bar. You meet someone,
Speaker 2: what do you do? Ah, I harvest gold? Really where
Speaker 2: from Ballarat?
Speaker 1: You know? No iPhones in my garage.
Speaker 2: I wonder I wonder if we could get someone to
Speaker 2: get all the gold out of your seven phones that
Speaker 2: are in your draws and by draws, I mean draws.
Speaker 1: Get them all in my pants? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder what the totality of that gold would be like.
Speaker 2: Would it be It couldn't be like a tea spoon?
Speaker 2: Would it be like a matchhead? Or it have to
Speaker 2: be fuck?
Speaker 1: Or wouldn't it otherwise people would be doing that all
Speaker 1: the time. Well. According to the World Health Organization, the
Speaker 1: annual generation of e waste is rising by two point
Speaker 1: six million tons and is expected to climb to eighty
Speaker 1: two million tons of waste by twenty thirty, eighty two
Speaker 1: million tons of e waste.
Speaker 2: It's hard to conceptualize that, isn't It's hard to figure
Speaker 2: out what that would look like. You know, if you
Speaker 2: had a one kilometer square space of grass, would it fill.
Speaker 1: All of that and be one hundred feet high? Would
Speaker 1: it be two hundred feet high? Would it? I don't know, Tad.
Speaker 1: I can't get my head around that because I don't
Speaker 1: know what that looks like. Chemical they use crago? So again, mate,
Speaker 1: you didn't ask me what chemical they use instead of
Speaker 1: the harsh solvents. Okay, hang on, hey Patrick, what chemical
Speaker 1: do they use? Well, as it happens, it's potassium peroxy monosulfate. Ah,
Speaker 1: that one, that old chestnut. Yeah, I had to. I
Speaker 1: practiced that. I thought he's ask me that. Hey, Well,
Speaker 1: what I want to say to you is well done,
Speaker 1: well done, good boy, good preparation. Who's a good little
Speaker 1: tech nerd? Who's your fucking little tech nerd? You are?
Speaker 1: You's the best? Look at me? Who's a big boy? Patrick? Fuck?
Speaker 1: Did I take riddle in this morning? Whatever that is?
Speaker 1: Maybe I did? Your coffee? People are going to go,
Speaker 1: and he's on cocaine.
Speaker 2: Trust me, you do not want to I've never seen
Speaker 2: me on cocaine, but I think I might actually explode.
Speaker 1: Promise made me maybe promise them? Never take speed? Is it? Please?
Speaker 1: Never ever take speed? They could?
Speaker 2: You and I both In fact, all of us, like
Speaker 2: we are all fucking weird, like I'm sure our audience
Speaker 2: really like we are.
Speaker 1: Us three are fucking anomalous. We are not, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Not saying better, like we're fucking human anomalies, Patrick Patrick.
Speaker 1: But in this group, we're all fucking normal.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why we do this, That's why, maybe why
Speaker 2: we have no other members. How many people would want
Speaker 2: to join this group of three fucking everyone because we're great.
Speaker 1: We're great. If you want to join our group, just
Speaker 1: let us know. In the fucking.
Speaker 2: The whatever the Facebook thingy fucking thing speaking of tech.
Speaker 1: Even Fritz this morning, he's going to tell you what
Speaker 1: am I not? Am I not slick? Patrick?
Speaker 2: The Eco mind Echo is that a brand? I guess
Speaker 2: the Echo mind one pro is like a galaxy. This
Speaker 2: is such a geeky, fucking sentence. No one in the
Speaker 2: world knows what this means, but you the Echo mine
Speaker 2: one pro is like a Galaxy Z flip seven without
Speaker 2: the flip.
Speaker 1: Well, all our listeners over forty five just went next,
Speaker 1: yeap next. What does that mean? Well, remember, like ten
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, phones were getting smaller and smaller and
Speaker 1: now bigger and bigger and bigger. I had an opportunity
Speaker 1: when I bought my latest phone, which was a Pixel nine,
Speaker 1: to buy the Pixel pro, the nine, the larger one,
Speaker 1: or fifty more instead of five hundred dollars more. And
Speaker 1: I thought fifty bucks ago bigger nap. Nap couldn't cope
Speaker 1: with a bigger phone. So instead of getting the deal
Speaker 1: where I saved five hundred bucks and spend fifty to
Speaker 1: get a big phone, I stayed with the smaller phone.
Speaker 1: And it seems like there's a push for people to
Speaker 1: go smaller. And so the flip phones we're talking about,
Speaker 1: the Galaxy flip were the ones that are folded in
Speaker 1: half and you flip the open to make a full
Speaker 1: sized phone. But this new phone is only the size
Speaker 1: of half a phone, so it's tiny. It's a little square. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that one of the things that we
Speaker 1: talked about this before, with that little you know, the
Speaker 1: magnetic Tapa that you have to zone out to not
Speaker 1: have apps bug you all the time because you've got
Speaker 1: less screen real estate, and so you're less inclined to
Speaker 1: spend more time on the phone and just use it
Speaker 1: as a phone. It's still your important notifications. But it's
Speaker 1: interesting that we've gone to something that's literally half the
Speaker 1: size of the phone. I think that'd be great to
Speaker 1: have that in your pocket instead of, you know, walking
Speaker 1: around with a giant, big, clunky thing that's as big
Speaker 1: as a brick.
Speaker 2: I concur your honor is that. I think I've seen
Speaker 2: one of those. They like about as thick as a
Speaker 2: pack of cigarettes.
Speaker 1: And you and they unfold. This is the z So
Speaker 1: you're thinking of the Samsung Flips, whereas this is only
Speaker 1: half the size. Is so effectively that the Flip phones
Speaker 1: are great, you know, they're really awesome phone because they've
Speaker 1: got that smaller footprint. But even going even smaller is
Speaker 1: this company that's basically you know, the Echo Mind one
Speaker 1: pro is half the size of a Galaxy Flip and
Speaker 1: you don't flip it open. It's just a little tiny,
Speaker 1: squearez screen. What's the timeframe? Obi Wan Kenobi on glasses
Speaker 1: that we wear that bring up all the shit on
Speaker 1: the screen on the lenses, And I know there's probably
Speaker 1: a version of that already, But.
Speaker 2: Where you think that's going to be? Where our glasses
Speaker 2: are the Internet? Our glasses are our phone, our contacts,
Speaker 2: our video player. Because that's kind of in the works,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 1: There is a brand out there called ro kid r
Speaker 1: okid and a made of mind just got it shipped.
Speaker 1: So these literally have just shipped in the last month
Speaker 1: and it was so much fun to wear. So just
Speaker 1: to picture this. At my mate's place, he has an
Speaker 1: older friend. She's in the kitchen, and I put on
Speaker 1: the smart glasses, which have cameras on them, so it's
Speaker 1: all AI can trolled. I look towards the kitchen and
Speaker 1: I say to the smart glasses, can you measure the
Speaker 1: person in the kitchen to tell me what size the
Speaker 1: coffin would be the fitter in?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, see that's not dark at all. Couldn't
Speaker 2: you have just said Joe all money?
Speaker 1: Oh? And did the glasses laugh? No, the glasses went
Speaker 1: into this whole conversation about how you have to make
Speaker 1: sure that the coffin slightly digger than the person.
Speaker 2: Look at TIFF's face and like, yeah, did you go
Speaker 2: how much bigger than the person, like the dead person?
Speaker 2: Does the coffin need to be And if we got
Speaker 2: a smaller coffin and squeezed them in, would we save money?
Speaker 1: If so, how much? Yeah? Yeah, So if you imagine
Speaker 1: the conversations you have with groc and all the you know,
Speaker 1: the ais, but they're with you all the time, so
Speaker 1: when you're looking at things, you can talk to them.
Speaker 1: It has a little green display, So it's not a
Speaker 1: full hovering, you know, iron Man thing, but it's there's
Speaker 1: a little display of green and it comes up on display.
Speaker 1: You can do language translations in real time, so if
Speaker 1: someone speaks to you in another language, you'll have this
Speaker 1: text flowing across the screen, translating in real time. So
Speaker 1: this is with us right now, and that's with the
Speaker 1: Roken AI powered smart classes. There are other smart classes
Speaker 1: on the market where you just hear the AI, but
Speaker 1: this actually displays what it's saying on the screen in
Speaker 1: front of you, just hovering in front of you.
Speaker 2: That would have to be illegal to wear in a car,
Speaker 2: right because if you're looking at that shit, you're not
Speaker 2: looking at the roads.
Speaker 1: So that such how would they legislate around that, because
Speaker 1: the legislation is nowhere near coming close to the developments
Speaker 1: in technology. You're absolutely right, Grego absolutely.
Speaker 2: And also I was talking to David Gillespie last night
Speaker 2: Galespo High Ho Glespo, and we're talking.
Speaker 1: About David Gillespie.
Speaker 2: Well, we're talking about how university these are running around
Speaker 2: with their undies on their head because they don't know
Speaker 2: what the fuck to do with AI. Right, because especially
Speaker 2: like undergrad students who have to write a paper, AI
Speaker 2: can write a better paper than they'd ever write in
Speaker 2: two minutes, and then they can say, also make this
Speaker 2: paper so it can't be detected by AI detectors. Do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, And it's just they're scrambling.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's so many things that are going to
Speaker 2: have to be navigated and adapted to and factored in
Speaker 2: with AI. For all the benefits and all the good,
Speaker 2: there's also the disadvantages where kids can present or students,
Speaker 2: not necessarily kids, but students can present papers that read great,
Speaker 2: answer the question, they cover what's meant to be covered,
Speaker 2: but they didn't actually write it and they don't actually
Speaker 2: know the content. But they're getting through and this is
Speaker 2: already happening now where it's just being where people are.
Speaker 2: I would think there are definitely people now, at the
Speaker 2: very least being helped significantly, that are getting degrees depending
Speaker 2: on the type of subject, that are getting degrees that
Speaker 2: they're not doing most of personally, not doing most of
Speaker 2: the work for like AI is producing their papers and
Speaker 2: their whatevers.
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of imagining being wheeled in on a
Speaker 1: gurney and looking at the bloke standing there with a scalpel,
Speaker 1: wondering whether he's been AI taught. You won't have to
Speaker 1: because robots will be doing operation. That isn't true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. That's that's all right. Would you
Speaker 1: ask a question, though, the craig, would you feel more
Speaker 1: comfortable and tiff having a robot operates you than a person?
Speaker 1: I will I.
Speaker 2: One would choose the robot, yep, And people would not
Speaker 2: expect that from me. But like, here's the thing with
Speaker 2: I mean, I would want to see some evidence over
Speaker 2: a period. I mean, I wouldn't choose it today, but
Speaker 2: I mean I think if you can look at data
Speaker 2: and say how many mistakes to humans And it's not
Speaker 2: that surgeons are bad but how many mistakes let's say,
Speaker 2: in one hundred thousand operations did these humans.
Speaker 1: Make, how many did AI make?
Speaker 2: And I think that would tell you, I mean, dependent
Speaker 2: on what the answer to that question is.
Speaker 1: And I would feel, you know.
Speaker 2: Because robots don't get tired, Robots don't have emotions, robots
Speaker 2: don't need morning tea in afternoon tea. Robots don't have
Speaker 2: fucking good and bad days. You know, it's like they
Speaker 2: just do they just do what they're programmed to do.
Speaker 2: But I think I could be wrong, but I would
Speaker 2: think ten years from now, a reasonable amount of surgery
Speaker 2: will be will be done by robots.
Speaker 1: And the crucial thing to bear in mind too is
Speaker 1: if you live in remote parts of Australia and you
Speaker 1: need agent surgery, effectively, you could have a you know,
Speaker 1: a surgeon in Sydney or Melbourne oversea the remote operation,
Speaker 1: and that's that's starting as well. That that could be
Speaker 1: you know, life changing, because that transport time to get
Speaker 1: someone to a capital city could be crucial and that
Speaker 1: could mean the difference between life and death. I don't
Speaker 1: understand this next story, but I'm interested for you to
Speaker 1: explain it to me. Power This is under power on
Speaker 1: your list. A startup.
Speaker 2: A startup just beamed electricity from a moving airplane to
Speaker 2: prove we can harvest solar power from space.
Speaker 1: Oh now I kind of get it. But how does
Speaker 1: it beam electricity? Where did it beam?
Speaker 3: At?
Speaker 1: Two? A laser? Laser bostin power style? Thank you, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So it was at five kilometers high. It's five thousand meters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: five kilometers. That's pretty high, isn't it an altitude of
Speaker 1: five kilometers and it beamed a laser. So flying a cessna,
Speaker 1: it was a cloudy, bumpy, stormy day, but they were
Speaker 1: able to synchronize the laser between the aircraft. This was
Speaker 1: a proof of concept. They were able to synchronize the
Speaker 1: laser between the receiver on the ground and the connection
Speaker 1: was kept totally for that time. So this was done
Speaker 1: in Virginia, a little startup there called Overview Energy. And
Speaker 1: this is a big thing because the idea is that
Speaker 1: in the future, because if you've got solar panels in space,
Speaker 1: then you're not subject to clouds and the Earth moving
Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff and being in shade,
Speaker 1: and you can basically point this array of solar panels
Speaker 1: at the sun consistently. Then the idea is that you
Speaker 1: would beam that energy down to Earth, so you would
Speaker 1: have receiver stations that you would connect to, so effectively,
Speaker 1: it's clean energy. There's no transmission cables and you're transmitting
Speaker 1: power to a receiver down on the ground. And this, ye,
Speaker 1: it's pretty exciting. So to make this kind of proof
Speaker 1: of concept, they flew this small, little, tiny Cesna like plane.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a Cessna before? Not a Cessna,
Speaker 1: but I've been in a little plane.
Speaker 2: When I landed in Vanuatu Port Vila, and I had
Speaker 2: to fly to a small island and they had to
Speaker 2: weigh everyone.
Speaker 1: Ye, all of us individually got weighed.
Speaker 2: There was like six people and a pilot who I
Speaker 2: guess also is a person, and I was one hundred
Speaker 2: and nine kilos. And the little man, the little man
Speaker 2: from Vanuatu, who was gorgeous, he said to me, you're
Speaker 2: too fat, and I.
Speaker 1: Went, what do you really think? No, I white say that.
Speaker 2: Ah, he said you're too fat. You're too fat, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, And what he meant was I'm too heavy.
Speaker 2: Like he wasn't actually of course trying to be rude,
Speaker 2: but yeah, And they had to weigh all the baggage
Speaker 2: figure it like, it's basically how much to the bags way?
Speaker 2: How much to the people weigh? How much is the
Speaker 2: pilot way, what's the capacity? How much fuel have we
Speaker 2: got to get on board? And I'm like, I hope
Speaker 2: you're fucking good at maths because our lives depend on
Speaker 2: this sum And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I must have just made.
Speaker 2: The cut by a kilo because they let the fat
Speaker 2: bloke on the plane. But again, good for my self esteem,
Speaker 2: not an issue at all, Patrick tell us, let's do
Speaker 2: our last one. I'm interested because I would love old
Speaker 2: fashioned controls on my car. Car manufacturers are being asked
Speaker 2: to bring back old fashioned knobs and sliding things so
Speaker 2: we can turn up the volume on the bloody air
Speaker 2: by sliding a knob or turning a knob.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just have knobs. Well, there's this Australia
Speaker 1: in New Zealand has a regulatory authority that looks its
Speaker 1: car safety and what they've decided is that they've set
Speaker 1: up a program and they have announced from twenty twenty
Speaker 1: six they're going to be putting pressure on car makers
Speaker 1: to bring back buttons because and I've observed this and
Speaker 1: made of Mine's got the tank here the Chinese and
Speaker 1: it's just one big screen in the middle. And quite
Speaker 1: often when we're driving along, he's got to flip through
Speaker 1: multiple screens to get to a certain control. Okay, admittedly
Speaker 1: it's a massage control of my seat, but he's going
Speaker 1: to press about full buttons and go through different screens.
Speaker 1: Now the issue is, though, there are certain crucial controls
Speaker 1: that we use in our car all the time, so
Speaker 1: whether it's indicators, turning the heat up, air conditioning, those
Speaker 1: sorts of things. And I know with my car because
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of analog in my car as
Speaker 1: well as electronics, so I've got heads up displayed, but
Speaker 1: I've also got knobs and buttons, and I can instituitively
Speaker 1: reach over and turn an ob and turn the volume up,
Speaker 1: you know, track forward on whatever I'm listening to. I
Speaker 1: can turn the heat up or down because there are
Speaker 1: physical buttons to do that as well as on screen.
Speaker 1: And now that we've gone so far away in one
Speaker 1: direction where you're effective they've got a big iPad sitting
Speaker 1: in the middle of your dashboard, they're now realizing, or
Speaker 1: it's thought now that this is actually too distracting when
Speaker 1: you're trying to do certain functions, and that we do
Speaker 1: have certain analogue features returned to cars. So this is
Speaker 1: going to be and I don't think this is Australia
Speaker 1: New Zealand. This is coming up around the world. The
Speaker 1: last episode we talked about those flush door handles that
Speaker 1: are problematic because you have a car accident and potentially
Speaker 1: the door handles can't be opened because they're electronically controlled,
Speaker 1: so if there's no power going to them, you can't
Speaker 1: open the door. So those sorts of things where we've
Speaker 1: got almost too clever for our own good. And you
Speaker 1: can see in this instance where it makes sense to
Speaker 1: be able to use tactile feeling, to be able to
Speaker 1: do whatever you need to do in the car without
Speaker 1: having to look away from the road. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: love that tactility.
Speaker 2: It's funny like I have a cheap little car which
Speaker 2: I drive most of the time, and a nicer, fancier car,
Speaker 2: and the nicer fancier car has got not a fucking
Speaker 2: knob insight and yeah you're driving, yeah, or the only
Speaker 2: knobber is in the front seat. Yeah, okay, again back
Speaker 2: in therapy for Jumbo. But I actually love driving the
Speaker 2: little Suzuki because I know where everything is without looking
Speaker 2: to see where it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I know how to turn on the AC or to
Speaker 2: increase it or decrease it, or turn it off.
Speaker 1: Or or you know whatever without having to scroll through
Speaker 1: stuff too. Yeah, that is a very very valid point.
Speaker 2: Like you think about it, like you're not allowed to
Speaker 2: use your phone, which you know how to use really well,
Speaker 2: but you're allowed to use this computer in the middle
Speaker 2: of middle your dashboard, which would seem to me to
Speaker 2: require much more focus and attention than using your phone.
Speaker 1: You know, when they relaunched the Mini a few years ago,
Speaker 1: the original Mini had the speedo and is sitting in
Speaker 1: the middle of the dash and Atradian authorities made them
Speaker 1: put a second speedo in front of the driver because
Speaker 1: they felt that looking off to the side to see
Speaker 1: what your speed was was too distracting. Yeah. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: now screens, Yeah exactly. Well, I feel like that was
Speaker 1: a good little chat go.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give us a four and a half
Speaker 2: out of five. I think there's a room for improvement,
Speaker 2: but overall, tip great work, even though you're probably very tired.
Speaker 2: Patrick also good work from you, great preparation, great list.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you also four and a half
Speaker 2: and jumbo fucking outstanding.
Speaker 1: Outstanding. Yeah, of course I'm giving me a five. Patrick.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you websitesnow, dot com, dot au
Speaker 1: if you want to just have a chat and if
Speaker 1: you can think of something that you'd like us to
Speaker 1: talk about, to debate in a mass way, just yeah,
Speaker 1: just fill out the form on the website, you know,
Speaker 1: websites now, dot com, dot au.
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna I'm not even gonna hume you
Speaker 2: by extrapolating on that little double on Tondre. You just
Speaker 2: slid in there that Tiff didn't even get or maybe
Speaker 2: she did.
Speaker 1: And if you have a huge.
Speaker 2: Amount of money and you are reckless with your money,
Speaker 2: but you want abs and shoulders and you want to
Speaker 2: train with almost a one female, she's at least seventy
Speaker 2: Tiff is available. She's the only hybrid trainer in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: And so fucking that's a good story at parties, apart
Speaker 2: from the results you'll get in the gym.
Speaker 1: So hit her up as well. Patrick, It's been great
Speaker 1: TIF also, you know, just terrific. Thanks so much,