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Speaker 1: You're a Joie Brown, a harder manco Sons and Campbell

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Speaker 1: Brown precon agreement for Campbell and the club depart ways.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Brownie's podcast.

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Speaker 1: Well lucky for us degenerates. Campbell Brown's part of the

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Speaker 1: ways of the Gold Coast Suns that happened.

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Speaker 3: A few years ago.

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Speaker 1: Fortunate enough he's in the studio with me for Brownie's podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's the week guys around quick Thursday. We're on the eve.

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Speaker 1: We're on the eve of Round two. Huge game tonight

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Speaker 1: between Carlton and your old team, the Hawks.

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Speaker 3: Game.

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Speaker 2: But it's a massive game and you'd expect the response

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Speaker 2: from from Carlton. You know, they need to bounce back

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Speaker 2: after what they dished us given.

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Speaker 3: Up hope with the Blues already. They have to, haven't

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Speaker 3: they jumped off quickly.

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Speaker 2: I'm expecting them to respond. There's going to be senior

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Speaker 2: players put on notice because you just you just cannot

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Speaker 2: dish that ship up. Mcgovernor. He's a really good footballer, but.

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Speaker 3: You've got to be braver in the air.

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Speaker 2: Nick Haynes Molo, Yeah, she's funly, don't Yeah, it'll be interesting. Dockety,

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't think he should ever be the

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Speaker 2: sub again, he's too he's too classy, and that's something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but what Patrick cripps the chance of

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Speaker 3: him rucking tonight.

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Speaker 2: They will see that again. You just you let him

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Speaker 2: be the clearance specialist years. Even if you can see

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Speaker 2: a slid advantage in the ruck for him, don't don't

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Speaker 2: necessarily use it because you need to conserve your energy

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Speaker 3: I think if you're putting a gripper.

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Speaker 2: In the ruck and he's you know, getting held and

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Speaker 2: bumped more than he needs to, it's just going to

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Speaker 4: They need a bit from a kaye.

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Speaker 1: They need to step up to kick one goal last week,

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Speaker 1: this pointing last week, he just didn't grab the game

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Speaker 1: by the scuff of the neck when it was there

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Speaker 1: to be grabbed like that was what forty odd points

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Speaker 1: up or against Richmond, a very inexperienced Richmond as well.

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Speaker 2: So god knows how they're going to stop the small

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Speaker 3: That's going to be real when because they do set

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Speaker 1: Hawk's got ten games in the MCG this year, They're

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Speaker 1: going to be a real challenge, real handful of the

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Speaker 1: j the wide expenses because they're going to set the

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Speaker 1: game up for their small forwards. It may be a

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Speaker 1: That's going to be a real benefit for it. So

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Speaker 1: he's concerning, no question about it. And against the chess

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Speaker 1: master and Sam Mitchell, you know, just he just he

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Speaker 1: does things on the run, doesn't he. And the other

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Speaker 1: thing is that we probably haven't really spoken about enough,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it's just so obvious we don't speak about

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Speaker 1: it is they're just such a great kicking team Hawthorn.

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Speaker 1: You know, they just can cut you to ribbons with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, aim On's a beautiful kick, so Cicily the charm

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Speaker 3: Their defenders a pretty good kicks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got like the Scrimshaw is going to be missed.

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Speaker 2: You know, he obviously got the three weeks for that

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Speaker 2: They've got great run and carry on. They get seven

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Speaker 2: Eleven of them are from the small forwards. Ginnovn bobbed

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Speaker 2: do think that Hawthorne the real deal. Now, whether that

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Speaker 4: But if the Blues go down here, something I want

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Speaker 1: The problem is they got to the prelim final two

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Speaker 3: Before they got off the market.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Brisbane overran them before they played in the Granny

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Speaker 1: They're restless the Carlton Army and they've seen the talent,

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Speaker 1: Richmond the other night because I know that Vossis. They've

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Speaker 1: I know the ex president's not. There is any more

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Speaker 2: Can't we get massively and people jump at shadows. Look

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Speaker 2: look at the narrative around the Pies week one when

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Speaker 2: they lost to g Diverse and then they come out

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Speaker 3: It's chalk and cheese a Dan Houston.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got You've got all your sources there at

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Speaker 1: Port Adelaide Brides. Why did he go Collingwood instead of

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Speaker 4: I think eventually it became a part of a contract discussion,

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Speaker 4: rightfully so they picked youth.

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Speaker 1: Did they Houston want to go there? Dragon was his

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Speaker 3: They need some class.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's very similar again, kicking and handballing skills.

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Speaker 1: They're not great under pressure.

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Speaker 4: It was the des originally, and obviously everything was blowing

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Speaker 4: confident he was going to get to Carlton, and I

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Speaker 4: think Carlton they pulled the rug like super confident. He

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Speaker 1: He's a really really good players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, Voss is one of a number of

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Speaker 4: So I've got three kind of burning sound effects that

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Speaker 4: I want to run you through, and let's go through

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Speaker 4: the coaches and see what they are. So, if you're

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Speaker 4: under a little bit of pressure, you're under the lighter, right.

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Speaker 4: If you're under a medium bit of pressure, something that's

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Speaker 4: it's starting to build. It's not quite there yet, but

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Speaker 4: it's starting to build on you're under the blowy.

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Speaker 3: That's blowy.

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Speaker 4: And if it's really coming, if it's really hot.

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Speaker 4: If it's if it's really coming for you, all right,

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Speaker 4: if you're at the absolute peak and you're about to explode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's l a all right, So heating door, ready's.

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Speaker 4: House, Michael Voss. What's your Is it the water, the

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Speaker 3: Michael Voss's the blow torch?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was probably the worst start to

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Speaker 2: a season you could imagine, you know that the Carlton

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Speaker 2: had Membership drive day the day after and they canceled it. Yes,

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Speaker 2: why did they do that because they didn't want to

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Speaker 2: face the backlash of the supporter. But even that, even

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Speaker 2: that is gatlas from the club. Yeah, you went out

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Speaker 2: and you're lost. But there's a lot of people in

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Speaker 1: And timely gutless or is it just minimizing the chance

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Speaker 1: for because players are obviously going to get put up

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Speaker 1: and they're going to put on the hot suit with

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Speaker 1: answering questions. Is it just a way to minimize the damage,

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Speaker 1: Like I think Collingwood went to ground last week until

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Speaker 1: except for Brownie's podcast where they released Harry Perriman.

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Speaker 3: But you didn't say that Collingwood player last week at al,

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Speaker 1: Because they went to ground because otherwise another players get

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Speaker 1: put up and it just creates headlines, set.

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Speaker 2: Them up another excuse to be weak like they were

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Speaker 2: the night before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, And that was Jesus coming out of Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're playing your old club this.

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Speaker 3: There might be a response. I'm going to keep working away.

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Speaker 2: I'm expecting a response.

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Speaker 1: He's going to get your comments tonight and he's going

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Speaker 1: to be playing these comments before Calt runs down. Mate,

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Speaker 1: they're going to be breathing fire more than that bloody

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Speaker 1: bush fire boss he's under.

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Speaker 4: What about your old mate? Clarko North should have got

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Speaker 4: the win on the weekend I said they were going to.

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Speaker 4: I was pretty confident that they've got to Again. The

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Speaker 4: list isn't quite there, but they should have. That should

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Speaker 4: have been their grand finals. I know that was their

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Speaker 4: game to win and to really show the league that

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Speaker 4: they've changed.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's under any pressure to be honest

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Speaker 2: with you, So no no flames or nothing, not even

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Speaker 2: the lighter nah. I really like where they're going, you know.

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Speaker 2: And Jack Darling was fantastic. He's added a three hundred

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Speaker 2: gamer this week there. Arker was good, you know, and

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Speaker 2: he's about to play three hundreds in a few weeks

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Speaker 2: time of Daniel. So they've had a seven hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty one games of experience.

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Speaker 3: They've all been in premierships.

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Speaker 1: And young Fin Sullivan the number two pick. Yeah, nepotism,

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Speaker 1: he almost related to him, but he looks like he's

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Speaker 1: going to be a start.

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Speaker 2: Correct And the thing with those premiership players is when

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Speaker 2: you're at a club that's never been successful, you know,

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Speaker 2: in the last decade or a couple of decades.

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Speaker 3: They don't know what they don't know.

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Speaker 2: So they might think that their training standards are good, right,

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Speaker 2: and they're getting better each pre season and stronger, but

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Speaker 2: they don't know what a Premiership standard looks like. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because you don't know what you don't know. So these

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Speaker 2: guys will help lift them up on field, off field and.

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Speaker 3: Left cultural standards a bit like what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Will be cultural shapers Melbourne for the ship, Clark, these

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Speaker 1: big businesses are getting you up to city to speak

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Speaker 1: for the masses.

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Speaker 3: What doesn't Clark get you down are they will talk

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Speaker 3: about shaping culture.

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Speaker 2: That they should they should, So I personally don't think

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Speaker 3: But you're right they should have won. Their effort was there.

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Speaker 2: They lacked a bit of polish, but I'm not putting

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Speaker 4: Are thinking a blowie for Bevo?

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Speaker 1: Ve is a fantastic coach Premiership coach, but because he's

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Speaker 2: BoNT will come back eventually. Tra Law like, there's there's

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Speaker 1: But they could easily miss finals, you know, with a

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Speaker 3: Don't you think fair? Because they played finals last year?

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Speaker 2: The Fremantle Doctors, I think they're a really good side.

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Speaker 4: Hasn't been a good start, no, but the catgori is

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Speaker 2: Go down there and win for any club, let alone,

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Speaker 3: They played two quarters and the two quarters were competitive.

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Speaker 2: You just need to get consistent four quarter effort, you know,

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Speaker 4: Now I'm going to be inspired here, come on, play

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Speaker 2: Take ability out of it, you know, give me eighteen

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Speaker 2: The side that wins every week is.

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Speaker 4: That because you never had any ability, you only ever

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Speaker 2: I loved it when it rained yesterday was the perfect

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Speaker 3: Had a bit of a flutter in the story. Man,

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Speaker 3: I was ready to go. Can I mate, that was

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Speaker 1: For God's sakes, Karka, take note and give this man

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Speaker 3: Mate, he's right here, your old mate, your old Premiership part.

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Speaker 4: Last coach, and I think he's under the most pressure

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Speaker 4: It's my boy, Kenny Hinckley.

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Speaker 3: Woh wait, it's a raging inferno, is it.

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Speaker 1: It's I don't want to make references to past tragedies,

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Speaker 3: So you know it's it's been set up by the Copper.

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Speaker 1: You know clearly they want to push Kenny out, so

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Speaker 1: they've come up with this succession plan which just doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't worked most of the time, and puts him

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Speaker 1: under an enormous amount of pressure. I never been fully

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Speaker 1: embraced by the Port Adelaide supporters. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: of Ken Inkley on a you're you're you're a bit

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Speaker 1: of a switch hitter when it comes to that, Brad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kenny can coach one of the greats. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: done amazing things with this list that's been so far

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Speaker 1: over this on sack Kenny. Let's Bernie's effigy in the

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Speaker 1: it would be some rundo mall. That's in Adelaide, mate, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Adelaide's put down more than Youugh Hefner's pants.

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Speaker 4: You have been over the journeys ads back in a

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Speaker 4: second welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Around his podcast leading into this rounds game. We've got

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Speaker 1: a Hawthorn Carlton tonight. I'd be fantastic cow wait to

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Speaker 1: fantastic as well. What about the Suns? Are the Sun's

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Speaker 1: a big win against perfect.

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Speaker 3: What they needed to.

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Speaker 1: They beat They beat the whole state absolutely. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what the stated want to lift in w A

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Speaker 1: because I've been ship House last week. Fremantle and West

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Speaker 2: How flat are they?

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Speaker 3: Obviously their first game was washed.

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Speaker 1: Out against Reckon. They got on the gas on the

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Speaker 3: It was a good winner. They did what they needed

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Speaker 2: Get up there, get to Dan and Nobby's. When you

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Speaker 3: Got flattered. Fortunate enough, it didn't for all the instagrams

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Speaker 2: I love going up to the pav but I love

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Speaker 2: the crab pot was good. Off tipped King to win

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Speaker 2: Anderson Witzilla, their engineer in Witzy was great. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: For the Gold Coast. So don't tell you what who

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Speaker 2: I can just sit back knowing they've got off to

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Speaker 2: an absolute fly the AFL because round one, right, round one,

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Speaker 2: after everything that happened in round zero, was the most

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Speaker 1: That surprised me, but maybe because they weren't great games

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Speaker 2: But I thought the attendance could have been better at Geelong,

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Speaker 3: It really does surprise me.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's now that if you go to Sydney, right,

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Speaker 4: solid each time. You can't get anyone to the NRL,

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Speaker 4: But you have Sidney Swans playing the ACG and the

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Speaker 3: It's more of a TV game, isn't it. Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's more of a TV Do you know it's a

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Speaker 3: We are we? Any chance that's coming back? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is it gonna be on Fox Sports? Okay, you want

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Speaker 3: to have to check to my page. Nah, seven, it'll

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Speaker 3: you reckon? That'll be a infomercials. I guess the other

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Speaker 1: Infomercials and then the kabati will come on in the ad. Bracks, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what about drugs in sport? It's become a big topic again.

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Speaker 1: It's back on the radar.

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Speaker 4: Br It's been everywhere over summer, just because there's obviously

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Speaker 4: of talk about the AFL drug policy and whether it's

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Speaker 4: actually doing anything and whatnot. Is it different now? Obviously

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Speaker 4: you guys played in a generation before this kind of thing,

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Speaker 4: but it's seems like it's kind of out of control.

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Speaker 3: I must have been.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really. We're pretty old school up in Brisbone.

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Speaker 1: on here say second and third accounts that obviously it's

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Speaker 3: I can't buy that. Excuse just means you've got to

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Speaker 1: But I know culturally things have changed in footy clubs,

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Speaker 1: no question about that, brown Dog. It's hard to comment

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Speaker 2: It's rife in society, so it'd be you'd be sticking

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Speaker 3: But yeah, look there young males, the young alpha males,

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Speaker 1: The one thing I'm also going to fall into the

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Speaker 2: Like hearing is every time a player puts his hand

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Speaker 2: this guy And that's that's natural chat out there. That's

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Speaker 2: where the lines can get a little bit blurred. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's there's been players that have the hand up over

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Speaker 3: Health, would you prefer clubs?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this whole system gets scrapped and then it

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Speaker 1: just players get outed for drug taking and then obviously

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Speaker 1: So it's going to happen no matter what it is.

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Speaker 2: The person or the people that I think should be

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Speaker 3: To drugs, is your parents right now?

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Speaker 2: It's the doctor knows, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Only the doctor.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes the leadership group don't know. The coach doesn't know,

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Speaker 2: the football manager doesn't know, your player manager doesn't know.

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Speaker 2: But as a parent, and I'm a parent, wouldn't you

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Speaker 2: You know, from a professional point of view, they're the

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Speaker 1: But I'm made concerned about things better. Anonymous though, you

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Speaker 1: know Aymous from your parents has a title relationship with

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Speaker 2: I just I just think that's a one thing that's

439
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Speaker 2: it's it's very anonymous, which is for privacy reasons, and

440
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 2: you don't you don't want you know, your teammates.

441
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 3: Necessarily knowing or whatnot.

442
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 2: But there's got to be people that can get you

443
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 2: by the scruffle and you can say, hey, son, you know,

444
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,200
Speaker 2: pull your head in before it becomes an ongoing problem,

445
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 2: which we're seeing at the moment with certain.

446
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 1: Ployment doesn't a cred rumor in indiuenda. But of course

447
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: if youre an extra two or three people know, then

448
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 1: it starts. The word starts to leak at.

449
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 2: The rumor and innuendo is out there anyway, you know,

450
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 2: and if it's out there right now with certain players,

451
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 2: whether they'll ever play again for a certain club, you know,

452
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 2: like that's out there and will forever be out there.

453
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 2: There's no perfect.

454
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Speaker 3: Science around it, you know. And the one thing that

455
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Speaker 3: annoys me.

456
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Speaker 2: I did a podcast the other the other week and

457
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 2: they asked a question about drugs in sport, and I said,

458
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Speaker 2: I've never taken a drug in my life, which I haven't,

459
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Speaker 2: and everyone that knows me knows what my stance is.

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Speaker 3: It same with you, mate.

461
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then and then they got undated.

462
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 3: With people that said, oh, yeah, no, that's bullshit.

463
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Speaker 2: He loves it, they know it. They have absolutely no

464
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: idea about me. I love drinking, you know, a wine,

465
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: haven't having a watermelon vapor. But I've never done drugs

466
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Speaker 2: in my life.

467
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 3: Neither have you.

468
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 2: So we're probably not the best people to talk about

469
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 2: addiction and things like that.

470
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Speaker 3: And just let's not forget. We're not going to get

471
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Speaker 3: into the weeds here.

472
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Speaker 1: But this was as much a brand early days when

473
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: the three strokes rules body and this is much a

474
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Speaker 1: brand protection policy for the a f L because it's

475
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Speaker 1: really confusing the drug card. There's game day stuff which

476
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Speaker 1: is not run by the AFL, that's or whatever they

477
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Speaker 1: call these days, but the players get done for illicit

478
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: drugs and that day two years two years automatic, so

479
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: which we've.

480
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Speaker 4: Seen some players serve, and that's lock your key.

481
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 1: He's almost brought in as a safety net, this three

482
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: strokes policy because the AFL knew that there were some

483
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: big name players that would have run into strife on

484
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Speaker 1: game day like Wendell Sala did and they would have

485
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 1: been a disaster from a pr perspective for the AFL.

486
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Speaker 1: Back in two thousand and five, I think when the

487
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: illicit drugs policy came in. So part of it was

488
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Speaker 1: trying to help the plas and the welfare of the pass,

489
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,479
Speaker 1: but also a part of it was the brand portion

490
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Speaker 1: of the AFL as a trademark, corse as a.

491
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Speaker 4: Car because imagine these big players that are getting marketing

492
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 4: dollars from the AFL to be out there promoting the

493
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Speaker 4: game and then they get done something like that and

494
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Speaker 4: besmirching the character they'll never recover.

495
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Speaker 2: And we only saw last year that the report that

496
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Speaker 2: came out about Melbourne. You know, they were suggesting that

497
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: the players that took illicit substances during the week or

498
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: you know, on a Sunday night or whatever, we're getting

499
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Speaker 2: tested by the medicos in case that they tested positive

500
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 2: on game day, right, so they pull them out with

501
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: a fake injury or whatnot. So, yeah, there's the the AFL,

502
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 2: the zfl PA's the club that they're all trying to

503
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 2: do what is best overall, but they're also looking after

504
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: throwing back out of I.

505
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Speaker 1: Couldn't imagine doing something during the week. I never had

506
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Speaker 1: a drink during the week when I was playing football

507
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: and Fursday years of playing football, not a glass of warm,

508
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: not even a stubby, you know, outside of maybe on

509
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: a Sunday evening if you had a seven day break

510
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: and weren't playing till the following Sunday. But like sitting

511
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: there on a Tuesday night, even at home, even the safety,

512
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: no one's going to see you, let alone doing a

513
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: line of coke or smoking a bomb or whatever else.

514
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 4: A spliff, it sounds better.

515
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: Having a ping ping.

516
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: Any special. It's always going to be an issue. It's

517
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: going to go around around when whether the three is

518
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: in place or it's not in place. And I think

519
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: with Paul marsh in charge of the a f L,

520
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: he's very staunched that, yeah, nothing will be changing, nothing

521
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: too much will be changing. Otherwise the players will just

522
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: say stuff is. We're not going to agree to this

523
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: extra drug policy on top big games.

524
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Speaker 4: This weekend Port Richmond is actually, rule of a sudden,

525
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 4: a very big game. And hopefully if Richard win, I

526
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 4: can stop wearing my headband to the studio each time.

527
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 4: But if they don't. But I think Porter gonna bounce back.

528
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: I reckon we'll get them bounce.

529
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Speaker 1: Back like they did against Hawthorne in their final last year.

530
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: Even though they've lost a couple of pis obviously Charlie

531
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Speaker 1: Dixond retire. Dan Houston's a big loss, isn't he even

532
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: though he suspended the.

533
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 3: Back end of the year.

534
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: So Pies Dogs tomorrow night, that's going to be fascinating game.

535
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: We know the Dogs got some injuries. Pies look back

536
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: to their best in the mc J big crowd, quick movement. Yeah,

537
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: that's Houston makes a big difference there, doesn't He's Scott

538
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: Pennalbury sitting on the bench.

539
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we'll see a little bit more of that

540
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: and when you get to his ah, there's nothing actually wrong.

541
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with it.

542
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: It's scene as I think actually handled a pretty well

543
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: calling because that could have become a big topic, especially

544
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: that at a lost I guess, but that's.

545
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Speaker 3: The way the future.

546
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 1: No question about why wouldn't you keep Scott Pendlebury there

547
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: and manage his minutes all the way through because the

548
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: end of the day they're not going to be successful.

549
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: Scott Pendlebury's not playing good foot at the back end

550
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Speaker 1: of the year. John, I've done it for quite a

551
00:24:59,520 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: long time.

552
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Speaker 3: They've done really well.

553
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: What about Port Adelaide last week whereas dormant is inactive

554
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 2: as Gene Hackman's pain recently.

555
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 3: Really, that's a good one. Did you just come up

556
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: with that? Now?

557
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 4: I'm not sure really deserve that?

558
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: That was How did he die? They just found it

559
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 3: a week? Yeah, it was a week.

560
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 2: I think that it was a week that natural causes,

561
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 2: But like, what are the odds that both of.

562
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: Them passed in the same house. She passed first and

563
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: was in the house for a week before Jeane. He

564
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: didn't know, so he kept asking for dinner. Where's your dinner?

565
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 3: Were coming out? Can you leave it in?

566
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 4: The listeners will never know as to why you're laughing

567
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 4: because we had to take that down. One of the

568
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 4: worst things we've ever said, that is he can't leave

569
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Speaker 4: that in cannot leave Oh, we're not bigg that we

570
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 4: could be s just yet from he's dead the estate.

571
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: He's unbelievable.

572
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 4: Are you fascinated by how his brain works? Sometimes a

573
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 4: serious conversation, but it is.

574
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: An interesting topic.

575
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: There's a lot of our tea was going cold.

576
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 3: Turn the can turn the kettle on laugh.

577
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: Good life, legend of the industry, vallet.

578
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: G anyway, a lot of questions to be answered answered.

579
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: Have Don's Christ looking forward.

580
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: To this game over in Adelaide?

581
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

582
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 3: I love good They have a very good side.

583
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 2: So now that the hang on the games at the MC, we.

584
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 3: Want their way, we want their way. Well, well gotta

585
00:26:52,119 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: win on the rush. Ye're right, the Deep mines Ah ship.

586
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: Who else can I.

587
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: Send you for this tonight? Before? What are you guys

588
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: actually doing?

589
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: I slept the car, watch a lot of funny, A

590
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: good weekend. It's puttying fade back