WEBVTT - #2116 The Drama Queen Gets Robbed - Patrick Bonello 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:02.400 I get a team. It's a You Project, of course 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:06.000 it is. Patrick's here, Tips here, I'm here. I hope 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:08.720 you're well. Hope you're enjoying the You Project. And if 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.520 you're not part of our little online group, a Rooney, 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.640 the You Project Facebook group is available for you. 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.239 Is that what it's called the You Project podcast? Or 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.360 I don't know, it's something of that group. I should 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:24.239 I should probably know. 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.440 But there's about four thousand of us that jump on 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:30.720 there and talk, and young Danny this week had something 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:32.000 to celebrate. 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.279 In the group. We all did that, like a. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:37.640 Little online community where people just support each other in 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:39.440 all the good things. So if you're not part of that, 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.960 there's no hooks, catches or agendas. You just jump in 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.879 and chat or jump out whatever the case. Hi, Patrick, Hey, Hey, 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:50.519 doing be part of the group? Kind of Yes and no? 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:52.080 Yes, I joined in. 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:54.640 Are you a member of the group? 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.240 I think so. Yeah, But I don't monitor social media anymore. Remember, 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.200 I just don't jump that's true. 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:03.880 Yeah, that's true. That's probably for the best. 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.640 But after talking to David Gillespie the other day, I 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.959 was a bit depressed but also a little bit enlightened. 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:17.839 So I'm right now curating my relationship with social media 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:22.559 and all of my attention regarding all things electronic high 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:24.080 TIV high harms. 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.639 How are you fabulous? Friday morning? 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.760 Now, Patrick and I saw that some male was in 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:33.120 the background before. 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.920 We went live. I'm not sure that either he or 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:37.959 I have given any kind of approval for that. 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:41.920 Earlier in the morning to walk the dog. 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.920 Yes, it is that what he does. Oh sorry, I 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.800 thought it was a letter from Australia Poste. 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.440 Yeah, so he's like a dog walker man, is he? 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:51.440 Yes? Yes? 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.120 Why was he in pajamas and my pajamas, I mean jocks? 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.240 Why was the dog walker man knewed in the background? 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:06.160 What was that about? Did you giggling? Giggling like a 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:10.000 fucking guilty school girl? And Patrick's like, I wish I 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:11.520 had one of them in my background. 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.320 I was just going to say that I couldn't say 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:17.560 you must have X ray glasses because he looked pretty 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:18.160 close to me. 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.000 We're just fucking around for the show. Patrick, you're familiar 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.720 with entertainment, No, you're familiar with that. No, but thanks 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.840 for that. You really added to what was going on. 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:32.919 Truth get in the way of a good story, Patrick. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:33.600 Yeah, just let that. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.600 Just let that roll now, Patrick, You've been the victim 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.400 of a vicious crime up there in the place where 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:46.040 you once bragged about how safe and beautiful it was. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.560 You don't lock your car, you don't lock your house. 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.280 But you do, now, don't you. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:51.760 Well? 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.760 I do lock my car, but it was parked across 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.239 the road on one of those really hot days under 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:01.160 a tree because there was no shade, and I left 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.680 it overnight and someone broke into it. Yeah, smashed the windows. 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.680 Wasn't fun. But I had my backpack in it, which 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.280 is what I take to tai Chi with all my 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.360 notes and fans and a little bit of equipment and yes, 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:17.480 my wallet. I know everyone's been telling me how dumb 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.800 I am, and one friend in particular, Hi Sylvia, it 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.960 constantly tells me how dumb I am, So thanks for that. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.800 But yeah, the police were really lovely. The forensic guys 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.880 were really good. But the crims or krim, I don't 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:32.799 know if it was more than one person were wearing 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:37.400 gloves so they couldn't take any prints. But but digital tracking, 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.400 thank you. They used my credit card at nine different 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:45.160 locations as they drove back to Melbourne. So wow, Melbourne. Yeah, 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.560 and the good thing is police have CCTV footage, so 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:52.440 I'm hoping that my stupidity may actually lead to a conviction. 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.120 So in some ways it's a good thing. 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:00.680 Will you be locking it moving forward all the time 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:01.640 or just a look it? 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.440 And I always lock it, but I just didn't have 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.280 it in the driveway where I normally have it nice 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.480 and safe where the camera is, and it was out 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:08.680 of the range of the camera. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.120 So it's not a good feeling, is it when you 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.240 walk up to your car, or like, I've had a 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.000 few things happen over the years where you go, yeah, 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.279 you come to a door at your house and like 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.040 I didn't leave that open or whatever makes you feel 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:22.839 sick in the guts. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.359 I don't know if you remember I lived. I was 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.279 renting a place in Tuak, which again is supposedly a 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:32.320 nice area, and I had my camera in the glovebox, 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.600 but this is before they had screens on the back 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.359 of it was a Kodak digital camera, one of the 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:40.440 very first ones, and it got stopped and anyway, I 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.560 thought maybe I'll just check out a few of the 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.680 pawn shops to see a few weeks later. Anyway, when 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.240 I walked out of club X. Sorry, I mean the 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:54.400 places that you can dock your wares, not wear your hawks. 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.840 You know, a lot a log chapel street at all 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:02.640 those places. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.280 I'm not helping you out. You dug this fucking hole. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:10.280 I saw it coming from two acres away. 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.400 Anyway, I went to one to watch. 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.960 Fortunately, Tiff is the best crowd in. 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.760 The world, and you are lucky when I do stand up, Tiff, 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.120 you are still going to be there right at the 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:26.320 front of everybody. Thank you. Anyway, so I walk in 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.320 and I see this camera that's identical to my camera 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.720 on sale, and I asked the guy, you know is 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:34.560 can I check out the camera? I said, if you've 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.400 got the box and cables for it and a mate 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.520 just as is. So I looked at it and the 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.839 memory card was full, and I knew that my memory 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.800 card and my camera had been full. And then I 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:47.040 opened up the back of it and they had Panasonic batteries. 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:51.159 And Panasonic batteries aren't that common in a lot of devices, 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.400 you know, you tend to get durusale and ever ready, 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.919 so I thought, I reckon, this is my camera. So 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.640 I went to the local police station and the desk 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.200 sergeant a person at the desk said, nah, we can't 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:02.800 do anything. You know, there's not much we can do. 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.480 But a COIB detective happened to be walking past and 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.000 he turned to me and said, oh, what happened to 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.240 your camera? And I told him the whole story. He said, right, 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.040 let's jump in the car and go and have a look. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.080 He was a lovely guy. And we're driving there he says, yeah, 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:19.400 this bloody licensed thieves. So anyway, the short story is 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.919 I took the camera. We got the camera, took it 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.120 back to my place, and I had the box and 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.800 packaging for it. Serial codes matched, so I knew it 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.400 was my camera. I had to buy it back. 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:32.159 Oh my god. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.560 I had to buy it back for the price that 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.880 the porn shop had purchased it for because even though 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.560 I could prove it was my camera, they had ID 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.280 stolen ID that that had been used to verify the 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.600 person's sale. But anyway, so it's just I know it's 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.640 a bit of a long winded story. Apologies for that, 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:53.960 but you're right, Craigo, you do feel somewhat violated when 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.159 something gets stolen that doesn't belongs to you. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.000 It's not a competition, but I'll share one with you 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.680 that was a good one I bought when I had 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.839 Harper's on the Highway that he used to train at, 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.320 when Tiff was just you know, doing year twelve fuck 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.480 and squeezing a z it's and trying to figure out 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.880 what she wanted to do in the next you'll doing. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:15.280 That decade or two. 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.680 So I bought a new motorbike patrick which I was 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.440 called a Suzuki eleven hundred hour, which was one of 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.760 the first of the super bikes in that kind of 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.160 it looked like something you would ride on the track 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.960 but on the street, right early days of those superbikes, 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:36.320 and back then it's probably twenty five years ago or something. 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:37.040 Cost me. 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.840 Like twenty three or four grand, which was a fortune, 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.240 probably like fifty grand now. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.119 Anyway, blue and white, beautiful, amazing. Went out. 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.120 I won't say where I bought it, but anyway, went 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.320 out to this place which is not near my house. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.920 It's the only place in Victoria I could get one. 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:58.000 They'd just been released. Bought it, and while I was there, 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.640 I bought this like fucking I don't know what it was, 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:04.440 titanium chain or something that you can't cut through, and 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.040 just so I could lock. Apart from the steering lock 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.040 on the bike, I could also lock it so nobody 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:15.320 could pinch it. Blah blah blah, and I was I 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.120 had to go back the next day to pick it up. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.680 So anyway, I went back the next day, because that's 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:22.640 pre deliberate all that. I picked it up. Friend of 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.080 mine dropped me off road at home Bibby Bobby Boo. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.480 Still hadn't seen one on the road, so I was 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.680 super proud of myself. Next day, I was going to 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:37.959 work driving and I saw opposite me at an intersection 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:42.400 in fact, Nepeane Highway South Road, opposite me, going the 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.800 opposite direction to me. Of course, I go, oh my god, 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:49.000 there's my bike. Little did I know it was actually 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:53.120 my fucking bike, right, And I'm like, look at that, dude, 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.400 and it's the same and it's you know, obviously I 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.760 hadn't memorized the number plate, but I didn't even think. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.840 And then later that day I got home and clearly 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:01.800 mine was gone. 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:06.520 So I actually saw the guy flogging my riding away 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.440 on my bike, and I'm thinking what a gun is 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:13.600 because he's got a bike like me. And then but 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.240 the dumb thing that I did was, so you buy 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.920 it from and of course most dealers are not like this. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.839 But you buy it from the dealer and you pick 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.120 it up tomorrow. So they can cut a key to 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.439 the bike. They can cut a key to the padlock. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.880 All the bits and pieces I bought for security, they 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.720 can replicate in the day between when you sign on 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.880 the dotted and when you get it. So the guy 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:39.760 who stole it, at the very least worked for the dealership, 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.400 or worked for the dealership, or knew someone who did. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:45.800 So he just came to my joint, which he also 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:49.560 had the address because I signed all the paper, drove 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.880 to my joint, or got dropped off, had all the 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:57.920 keys unlocked, everything just rode it away And you're like, ah, 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.840 and then, which is understandable. But then I got interrogated 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.679 for about four hours by the fucking insurance company like 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.679 I was a criminal and I had done this. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.280 So yeah, I sympathize with you. 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.640 Wow. Yeah, that's that's pretty fun, isn't it. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:20.160 Oh Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. What are we what 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.439 are we teching today? Is there anything that takes your 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:24.360 fancy or do you. 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:29.360 Just want me to throw a CPR CREPR story. And 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.040 this is one of the most bizarre things. It doesn't 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:39.000 surprise me in the slightest. Meta basically had patented. It's 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:43.679 come out that they painted a AI that would continue 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:47.960 to post for you when you die. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.680 Who yeah, who wants that? 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.960 Yeah? So now this happened in December, and they weren't 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.640 the first to do it. Microsoft actually had the same 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:01.240 idea but then shelved it's saying, yeah, probably a bit 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.400 creepy if we have a Chatbotton model. This was that 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.719 in twenty twenty one. But they're saying now, no, no, no, 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.000 we're not really going to use it. The idea had 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.880 come out of so say, for example, Crago on the 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:19.640 typ channel on Facebook decides to go away on an 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:23.319 extended holiday. You could effectively use this to post for 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.160 you while you're on a break, and I think part 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.000 of the idea. And then someone thought, ky, but what 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.280 if someone dies, it could keep posting for them, and 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.480 soily and you know that if you can, if you 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.720 could put all of your collected works into an AI, 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.360 it would really be able to mimic your voice. So 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.040 in a lot while it could effectively and who knows 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.280 down the track podcasting it could you know, it could 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:48.679 just be Tiff and I and an AI. 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:51.720 Well, very well could be. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.280 I mean the quality of the kind of AI podcasts 0:11:55.320 --> 0:12:00.040 that are using, you know, celebrities voices a part some 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:04.520 times from the cadence or the timing. But it's pretty indistinguishable. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.840 I mean it is, but it's getting very close to 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:11.160 being you wouldn't know. So I also see that some 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.200 artists and writers, and I thought this would be the case, 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:20.400 quite hesitant to disclose when they're using AI or collaborating 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.040 with AI. What do you think the reason is for that? 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:28.559 Just embarrassment or fear of losing legitimacy or legitimacy. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.160 There's a perception out there if you're an artist and 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.120 you say, oh, yeah, by the way, I used AI 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.079 to help get some themes for my new book, then 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:41.240 the authenticity and the sense of creativity is diluted. 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:42.920 I think yes. 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.720 But interestingly, there was a little bit of a research study, 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:48.880 and what they did was they took two and a 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:53.920 half thousand creative professionals and across four continents, and this 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.160 is a study done in twenty twenty four, and they 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.679 found that eighty five percent of them we're using AI 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:03.560 in work. Now, if you use AI to help you 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:07.040 get organized in the day, you help manage your emails, 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.920 and then you jump into the creative process. Even then, 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.800 the fact that AI is helping you was still a 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.480 bit of a stigma for most people. That the perception 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.959 was that you were almost like you're cheating by using AI. 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.440 I mean, I think I use it for concept work 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:28.040 sometimes if I'm stuck on an idea and then I think, well, yeah, 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.320 maybe I'll just jump into AI. Sometimes it's awful, it's terrible. 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.040 Other times you think, oh, yeah, that's not a bad idea. 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.560 I think that at the end of the day, it's 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.800 just like any tool. I'm sure you know people were 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.880 saying this when computers came out, and you know the 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:47.000 fact that we were using these devices or adding machines, 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:52.320 you know, calculators rather than an advocate. Yeah, and I 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.800 think it's just about global acceptance that, you know, as 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.720 it gets more and more integrated. I know that when 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.000 I take a photograph and I send peopleographs, now I 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.360 have an option to press a button and it's nano 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:08.640 banana on my phone and wow, lick the nano banana button. 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.440 I can change that photo. Before I send it. So 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.680 I was sitting talking to some friends. We were in 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.920 a walking group. We go walking together every Thursday morning. 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.040 We've been doing it for about fifteen or sixteen years, 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.240 and then we have a coffee afterwards. And I was 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.400 explaining this to a friend of mine. She was talking 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.440 about using AI and so I took a photo of 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:29.840 the group of people sitting at the table, and I 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.760 just in the prompt, I said, turn this into a 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:37.440 Christmas scene. Suddenly there was a Christmas tree in the background, 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.680 ballbles and decorations on the table, and you know, the 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.320 same people were there. One person was a little Christmas 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:48.400 hat and it did literally changed the you know what 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.920 was there. But it makes me wonder too. The reality 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:56.200 was so clear, it looked so real. I almost turned 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.240 it around to the other people and said, hey, remember 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.360 this is funny. We were sitting in the same positions 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.800 this time last year in December, you know, just to 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.240 see if I could fool anybody, because not everybody was 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.000 listening to the conversation. There were people in their own conversation, 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:10.600 you know, when you sit around with a group of people. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:15.040 But the reality, well, the reality is there is no reality. 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.160 You know, are we being deceived. Well, yeah, maybe we are. 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.800 And credibility, where does that work? I mean, you use 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:23.160 AI all the time. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.560 Craigo, I use it for different things. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:29.160 But it's interesting you say this because, like all of 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.640 the stuff that I write on Instagram, if you don't 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.080 follow me on Instagram, folks, that's fine. But if you 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.360 want to just quig Anthony Harper. But like, I'll put 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.240 up some things like I'm just looking at one post 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:40.640 right now. 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.360 I wanted to read you this for a reason. It 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.400 just says it's handwritten on a whiteboard by me, one 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.640 hundred percent original. It's not brilliant. 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.880 But of course life's a shit show and then it's awesome, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.440 and then you're sad and then happy, and then it's lunchtime. 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.960 Your challenge is not to create a perfect life, but 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.760 rather to thrive in the inevitable imperfection of it all. Now, 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:03.080 I've posted that post probably fifteen times over the last 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:07.320 few years, and the worst it ever gets is a 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.680 million views. One time it got two and a half 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.840 million views. Right, so I thought, I'm going to take that. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.720 I took that and a few other higher rating ones, 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.200 and I wrote, so these are posts that I put 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.760 on Instagram on hundred percent original, written with my hand 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.720 on a whiteboard, taken a photo of tied it up 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:27.720 a bit, you know, made a bit clearer and cleaner. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.920 I want you to come up with a post. 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.560 Similar to this or similar to these, written in my style, 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:39.160 a bit of swearing, whatever, but original. They were fucking terrible, 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:44.680 like terrible, like not like, oh my god, you couldn't 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.240 you know. But if you want to go, hey, tell 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.400 me a funny story about how the pyramids were built, well, 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.960 it can crush that, right, Or you want to give 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.680 me your thoughts on like yesterday. I'll talk for a 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.160 minute or two and then I'll shut up. But this 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:03.280 is very relevant to you. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:08.639 Have you opened the door at all on AI agents 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:09.879 like agentic ai? 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.200 Yeah, a little bit. It just looks into. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.399 Okay, So I just want to read this because this 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.800 blew me away. So agentic AI refers to artificial intelligence 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:23.240 systems that don't just respond to prompts. They take initiative, 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:28.800 set goals, make decisions, and act autonomously to achieve an objective. 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:35.840 In simple terms, traditional AI answers questions, agentic AI pursues outcomes. 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:40.159 And this is happening now. The core idea. Most current 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:44.280 AI tools, including chat assistance, are reactive. You asked the answer, 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.920 agentic ai is goal oriented and self directed. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.400 You give it an outcome that you want. 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.159 It figures out the steps, it executes them, and it 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:59.359 adapts if and when needed. Key features of agentic ai 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.800 goal rn entered works to find towards defined objectives. Autonomous 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:09.240 decision making chooses actions without human input, planning ability breaks 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.960 large goals in small blah uh. I'm like, this is 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.679 just a person. This is a person. And I was 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:18.840 listening to a guy yesterday who's the boss of Uber. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:25.440 His name is Dara Koshwahari or something. But anyway, when 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:29.080 he took over Uber, they were losing three billion a 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:33.760 year in twenty seventeen. They are now making ten billion 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:38.120 a year. And he's they're implementing all of these kind 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:44.400 of you know, these AI kind of agents to take 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.119 positions and they're employing other people. They're still one of 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.200 the biggest employers in the world, but it's the shit 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:55.800 that's happening. It's almost like you can't keep up. And yeah, 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.840 because Melissa started telling me about she wants to build 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.760 this team of agents, and I'm like, haka, are you 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:02.440 going to sack Tiff? 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:03.520 And I what's going on? 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:10.080 So there's a really lovely sense of authenticity to you 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.159 writing your posts on a whiteboard and taking a photo 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:17.760 and putting it up there. Last year I did a little, 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:22.040 a little kind of project that I started for myself, 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.800 and I had a whiteboard marker in my bathroom and 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.120 on the mirror. Every night before I went to bed, 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.720 after I brushed my teeth, i'd write a high coup. 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.440 So that's a Japanese poem. It's a five seven five 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.720 syllable so one line of five syllables, one line of seven, 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.679 one line of five. And it was really interesting pushing 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:41.960 yourself to be creative. You know, at the end of 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.359 the day, I'm always a bit tired, but I really 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.920 set myself a goal to write a highkup every single day, 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.919 and it was such a fun challenge. And I started 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.520 taking photos of them, which was kind of fun. You know, 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:54.919 I'd have to go back and look for them, and 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:56.560 I don't think they were earth shattering, and I don't 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.960 think I'm going to publish a book of haiku. But 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.480 there was a study recently a psychologists now saying that 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:07.520 people who write shopping lists. Physically writing a shopping list 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.399 rather than typing it into your phone. Instead of that, 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:15.720 they're actually using a cognitive processing and that actually strengthens 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:21.200 your memory. It's also intention and presence, and that doesn't 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.520 happen when you type it into a phone. So physically writing, 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:29.199 forming the words helps with the intention and the intent 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.840 and memorizing what it is on that list. So I 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:35.119 thought that's interesting and the fact that doing that, And 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.119 I know we've laughed at me many times about the 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.080 fact that I like to use a fountain pen. But 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.280 I love writing still and I adore writing, and I 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:46.960 still like using technology. But it's interesting, isn't it. 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:48.560 I'm with you. I think it is. 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:50.920 Like there's a lot of mellow drama at the moment 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:54.119 around around apps and around the use of AI, and 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:58.400 around the use of social media broadly, but I think 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:01.160 that every individual needs to be I have this chat 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:08.080 with Gillespie and tiff about, you know, just like, really, 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:11.280 what is happening with these brains that are getting hijacked 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:17.800 by this medium? And so literally you it takes your attention. 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.840 You're not choosing what to focus on, it's choosing for you. 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.639 And so now you are just a passenger. You're not 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:27.800 driving the bus like it has your attention, not the 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:32.640