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Speaker 1: This is the Fitty and with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: A very special phone call has come through and we

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Speaker 2: want to welcome this man because he's done an amazing

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Speaker 2: job on the topic of social media and raising the age.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get to that, but we want to

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Speaker 2: welcome the Prime Minister, Anthony Albanizi.

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Speaker 3: Hello today, good morning, great to.

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Speaker 4: Be with you.

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Speaker 1: We do we do want to talk social media.

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Speaker 2: But the hot topic of course and the panic that

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Speaker 2: you can feel around town Albo is Christmas time.

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Speaker 1: How will you be celebrating.

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Speaker 3: It is Well, I'll be heading up to Darwin because

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Speaker 3: it is the fiftieth anniversary of that terrible event Cyclone

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Speaker 3: Tracy and when Santa never made it into Darwin. And yes,

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Speaker 3: I will recall as a little kid hearing that song

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Speaker 3: over and over again, but seeing the devastation that was there.

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Speaker 3: So there'll be a memorial service at six am Saturday morning,

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Speaker 3: and on the on the Friday, I think it's a

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Speaker 3: Saturday Christmas Day, on the night before there will also

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Speaker 3: be a memorial event and so it'll be really important

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Speaker 3: for literally they're expecting a very big crowd of people

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Speaker 3: to go back, both people who experienced it themselves, some

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Speaker 3: of them kids of course when it occurred. So that's

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Speaker 3: the way that I normally spend my Christmas Day at

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Speaker 3: Bill Cruz there at Exos Foundation at Ashfield, feeding the homeless.

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Speaker 3: Bill does an amazing job and it's work.

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Speaker 5: If you'll look, I know that's a great cause. Anthony,

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Speaker 5: can we borrow Kirabilly House? Then if you're not here

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Speaker 5: that day, can we come around? Actually, miss Prime Minister,

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Speaker 5: I had to ask you, is I heard a couple

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Speaker 5: of rumors that the cricket pitch has been done up

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Speaker 5: at Kirabilly House.

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Speaker 1: Can you give us an update on that. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Well, the path that goes around the out idea has

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Speaker 3: been fixed. He's taken some period of time, I've got

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Speaker 3: to say, which is why we haven't had our cricket

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Speaker 3: game for charity so far this year. There was also

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Speaker 3: a danger or bits of Kuribilly House, the ground slipping

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Speaker 3: into Sydney Harbor.

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Speaker 1: Some retaining.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, and it's been an enormous amount of work

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Speaker 3: being done, especially you've been a building site for about

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Speaker 3: six months. Okay, maybe what looks like at some stage

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Speaker 3: wait to see it.

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Speaker 1: We'll give it.

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Speaker 4: Well, Christen it when it's all done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're pretty keen to get some back our cricket

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Speaker 2: going Prime Minister. Can we celebrate what is a world

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Speaker 2: leading change that you've done here in Australia, the change

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Speaker 2: to raise the minimum age the kids can join social media.

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Speaker 1: It really is.

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Speaker 2: And has done, and I've had so many phone calls

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Speaker 2: from people saying it is such a relief.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I want to say thank you to you

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Speaker 3: and over for your advocacy. But I also want to

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Speaker 3: say thank you to the brave parents who've lost loved

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Speaker 3: ones who channeled that grief into doing something really positive

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Speaker 3: so that other parents don't have to go through this.

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Speaker 3: Social media is doing social harm and I want to

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Speaker 3: protect our young Australians, make sure that they can engage

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Speaker 3: with each other face to face, not think that the

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Speaker 3: whole world revolves online. But I also want Australian parents

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Speaker 3: to know that we have their backs and our platforms

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Speaker 3: will have a social responsibility to ensure that the safety

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Speaker 3: of our kids as a priority for them, and they'll

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Speaker 3: be held to account. There's a bit of pushback. That's

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Speaker 3: not surprising.

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Speaker 1: No, it is so powerful, it really is.

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Speaker 2: You know what's interesting, And I encourage everybody to do

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Speaker 2: as much reading as possible, because when you talk about

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Speaker 2: pushback from the tech companies, there's a lot of densing

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Speaker 2: that goes on. But at the same time people have

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Speaker 2: been saying this is the government's way of getting a

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Speaker 2: digital ID and stealing more of our data. Well, they

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Speaker 2: need to understand, as you would know, Prime Minister, that

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Speaker 2: it's actually in the bill that there will be no

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Speaker 2: digital ID and that no more personal information is required.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's really important to point.

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Speaker 3: Out that's right. We have robust privacy provisions in the

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Speaker 3: legislation very clearly, and obligations on the social media companies

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Speaker 3: regarding the use of any information and signifian penalties for

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Speaker 3: breaches of those requirements. So people won't have to upload

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Speaker 3: digital IDs. We've made that very clear.

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Speaker 2: They do already have the technology, I mean TikTok in particular,

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Speaker 2: they recognize seventy six million people last year that were underage.

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Speaker 2: They have the technology to do it, so let's not

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Speaker 2: confuse that. And we always say, Prime Minister as well,

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Speaker 2: if we, for example, hypothetical we said to Meta, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're going to give your thousand dollars for identifying every

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Speaker 2: person under the age of sixteen.

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Speaker 1: How do you reckon that?

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Speaker 3: Go?

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Speaker 1: I reckon they'd be pretty goods a bit of incentive.

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Speaker 3: There, Well, thank you, exactly right. Well, we've given them

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Speaker 3: a financial incentive to get this right as well, because

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Speaker 3: we want to make sure that the obligations are on

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Speaker 3: a social media company's not on parents. That is a

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Speaker 3: part of the focus of the legislation. And you know,

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Speaker 3: society has a responsibility to look after each other.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely lovely.

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Speaker 4: You've got to get it right because our kids deserve

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Speaker 4: it and we deserve as parents the support. So I

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Speaker 4: thank you for leading the way and thank you to

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Speaker 4: you Wire. But there's a lot of faith that comes

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Speaker 4: from being listened to and all those people that signed

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Speaker 4: the petition, that's exactly what's happening.

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Speaker 3: Well done, Prime Minister, Thanks everyone, Thank you before Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you and you're work.

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Speaker 1: Someone's got it always mate, Take care It.

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