WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 13 January

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<v Speaker 1>Leens.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, wait to pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, good evening and thanks for joining us for a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new year. On the Late Debate, I'm James Macpherson

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<v Speaker 1>with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond. We've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>coming up tonight, including another day another seventy nine million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars wasted in Victoria. Can you believe it? Of course

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<v Speaker 1>you can. Turns out there sobering up centers are sitting idle.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be shocked at just how much taxpayers are paying

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<v Speaker 1>per night, per person to use these things. No one's

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<v Speaker 1>using them. When we get to the papers, Anthony Alberanezi

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<v Speaker 1>is not that excited about meeting Donald Trump. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't even set a date for such a meeting yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Canberra Times reports that more than one point

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<v Speaker 1>five million Australians has delayed seeing a doctor because of

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<v Speaker 1>rising prices. All of that when we get to tomorrow's news.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, it's no surprise to anybody that Victorian police

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<v Speaker 1>are having trouble recruiting new officers. I mean, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine why who wouldn't want to be part of a

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<v Speaker 1>highly politicized police force that goes around arresting pregnant women

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<v Speaker 1>in their pajamas for naughty Facebook posts like they did

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<v Speaker 1>during the pandemic, And who wouldn't want to spend their

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<v Speaker 1>weekends babysitting pro Palestinian mobs as they marched through the

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<v Speaker 1>CBD chanting support for terrorists. So recruitment is a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a problem in Victoria for the police, but it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out retention is just as much a problem. Numbers

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<v Speaker 1>of Victorian police are moving north to Queensland, lured by

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<v Speaker 1>massive incentives of cash and other riches to get them

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<v Speaker 1>to work in the northern state. The Herald Sun reports

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<v Speaker 1>that the ranks of Victorian police are under siege, with

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland's force revealing that their twenty thousand dollars cash bonus

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<v Speaker 1>and relocation incentives are successfully alluring recruits from down South.

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<v Speaker 1>New data released by Queensland Police Service revealed Victorians were

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<v Speaker 1>among the most keen recruits after an advertising blitz for

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<v Speaker 1>the Sunshine State hit Melbourne in October. Now all of

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<v Speaker 1>this at a time when local police job vacancies continue

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<v Speaker 1>to rise. There's one thousand and eighty six vacancies for

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<v Speaker 1>police in Victoria. That's up from oney twenty six, just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months prior, Liz. I know it's a

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<v Speaker 1>tight job market, so obviously there's a lot of competition

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<v Speaker 1>for people in every industry, including police. But I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that you would need incentives to get out of Victoria.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the economy is so bad. Plus the L

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<v Speaker 1>ANDP government they're going tough on crime, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>their adult crime adult time. If you're a police officer

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated by the lack of support you're getting in Victoria,

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<v Speaker 1>with a bit of extra cash, it wouldn't take much

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<v Speaker 1>to lure you north where you're going to get some support.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, and this is the beauty of Federation, right. It

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<v Speaker 3>sets up a competitive market for these essential services. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you're a nurse, if you're a police officer, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're any number, if you're an ambo, the list goes on.

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<v Speaker 3>What a lot of people in the private sector don't

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate is the public sector don't get to just put

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<v Speaker 3>in for a pay rise. If you were a nurse

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<v Speaker 3>in this state, that is your wage. If you're a

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<v Speaker 3>policeman in this state, that is your wage. So these

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<v Speaker 3>states get to set up bidding wars basically because these

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<v Speaker 3>are the essential services.

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<v Speaker 4>That all of us need. Who is giving me a

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<v Speaker 4>better bang for my buck here?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not surprised to learn that Queensland is like, hey, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing very well out of Victoria.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, this is.

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<v Speaker 3>Very concerning for Victorians who are seeing their own youth

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<v Speaker 3>crime spree take a very stronghold in their streets as

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<v Speaker 3>well as we all know at the moment, the Victorian

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<v Speaker 3>police are lobbying the broke Victorian government for an extra

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<v Speaker 3>dollar or two as well, because once the nurses got it,

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<v Speaker 3>it sets off a chain reaction. The police so far

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<v Speaker 3>haven't had any success, which just adds to the perfect

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<v Speaker 3>timing of the Queensland L and B government saying, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>while you're getting nowhere with your pay dispute with the

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<v Speaker 3>Victorian government, how about you just move up here. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got way better weather for one thing.

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<v Speaker 5>And you can hardly begrudge the coppers asking for a

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<v Speaker 5>pay rise when they've seen the compatriots in other parts

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<v Speaker 5>of the public service get a pay rise.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, how can you.

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<v Speaker 5>Justify a pay rise for nurses and then say that

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<v Speaker 5>the coppers don't get one, all the ambos don't get one,

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<v Speaker 5>all the fieries don't get one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you can to.

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<v Speaker 5>Open that floodgate, the water is going to flood through.

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<v Speaker 2>We did right, And they've been in.

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<v Speaker 5>Dispute, the coppers in Victoria with the government for some time.

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<v Speaker 5>You've been down in Melbourne over Christmas period and you saw.

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<v Speaker 2>The writing on the police.

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<v Speaker 1>Police are graffitiing their own police vehicles protesting against the government.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw this during the Spring Carnival when I was

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<v Speaker 5>down in Mellow. This is at the front of the

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<v Speaker 5>Flemington Racecourse. You know, we'd like to buy donuts, but

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<v Speaker 5>labor as peanuts. I thought that was hilarious. When you've

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<v Speaker 5>got the public service standing up against a labor government,

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<v Speaker 5>you know something is wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>To say it was they not least so in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw ambulances had officers had graffited their own vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>in protest that lack of government support the police. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't say much for morale amongst your public servants

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<v Speaker 1>and especially your frontline workers when they're using their government

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<v Speaker 1>supplied vehicles to protest as their only form of protest

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<v Speaker 1>against the government, who.

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<v Speaker 5>Were during the pandemic put on the front line and

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<v Speaker 5>in many times used as shields when it came to protest,

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<v Speaker 5>like literal police were used as shields between the people

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<v Speaker 5>and the government. Essentially when people were trying to say.

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<v Speaker 3>We shield we had fired rubber bullets on an armed citizens.

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<v Speaker 5>Indeed, but they were requested to do that, but they

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<v Speaker 5>were put forward during the pandemic. You've got to go

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<v Speaker 5>and do the job for us that we as politicians

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<v Speaker 5>certainly wouldn't do, whether it's walking around wards full of

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<v Speaker 5>COVID patients, etcetera. Of course they want to pay raise

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<v Speaker 5>and then you talk about the health. I mean in

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<v Speaker 5>New South Wales where we're sitting tonight, psychiatrists are threatening

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<v Speaker 5>to walk off the job is only would you believe

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<v Speaker 5>in New South Wales and the public mental health system,

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<v Speaker 5>there are only three hundred psychiatrists right, so if you're

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<v Speaker 5>trying to rock up to a hospital in Sydney tonight

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<v Speaker 5>with some sort of mental health episode hoping to see

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<v Speaker 5>a psychiatrist, the chances are slim. Some two hundred of

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<v Speaker 5>these psychs who are asking for it should be said,

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<v Speaker 5>a twenty five percent pay rise, but they're paid less

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<v Speaker 5>than the public psychiatrists in every other state, so again

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<v Speaker 5>no wonder they're coming through and saying, well, everyone else

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<v Speaker 5>is getting a pay rise, why can't we get one?

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<v Speaker 5>Two thirds of them are now threatening to walk off

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<v Speaker 5>the job. Now, the public will not.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk off the job to resign. They're not going on strike.

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<v Speaker 5>Because they can go to the private sector sent more,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot more. Public mental health system in this country

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<v Speaker 5>is in absolute disarray. And the stories that have been

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<v Speaker 5>told to me by people who work within the system

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<v Speaker 5>about the cases that rock up to public hospitals, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm talking the most extreme stuff that people have or

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<v Speaker 5>have attempted to do to themselves, and they rock up

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<v Speaker 5>to a public hospital and they cannot see a psychiatrist.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, what sort of health system do we have

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<v Speaker 5>in our first world country? If a we can't pay

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<v Speaker 5>our doctors properly to do the job to the point

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<v Speaker 5>where they will walk out, resign on mass, and then

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<v Speaker 5>you don't have a public health So.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got two thirds of state psychiatrists threatening to quit completely.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they have actually already resignation, walked.

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<v Speaker 4>Off on the twenty first Minister response have already resigned.

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<v Speaker 1>The Minister responsible is on holidays in Japan, so she's

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<v Speaker 1>not present to sort this thing out, and public hospitals

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<v Speaker 1>are putting extra security on because they don't have psychiatrists

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with people, so all they're left with is

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<v Speaker 1>guards to stand up the door. It's just an unbelievable place.

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<v Speaker 3>This is one hundred and ten percent the men's government's

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<v Speaker 3>fault because this has been boiling for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred and forty psychiatrists here in New South Wales

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<v Speaker 3>already resigned, so the build up has already been extreme.

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<v Speaker 4>That's an extortionate amount of.

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<v Speaker 3>Such a very essential service and also very limited. No

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<v Speaker 3>state has psychiatrists coming out of their coming out of

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<v Speaker 3>their ears, so this is a precious resource. And they

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<v Speaker 3>after the one forty left, the two hundred or so

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<v Speaker 3>remaining have been so flat strap. That is what has

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<v Speaker 3>driven them to this mass resignation. I'm good friends with

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<v Speaker 3>someone who is a good friend of one of these

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<v Speaker 3>sites here in New South Wales, and they were asking them,

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<v Speaker 3>don't you feel responsible knowing that people could even die,

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<v Speaker 3>they could take their lives because you guys have walked

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<v Speaker 3>off the job, to which this person responded, the system

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<v Speaker 3>is so broken already. We have decided as a collective,

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<v Speaker 3>if that is what it takes to wake up this

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<v Speaker 3>government to ensure that this just doesn't go on in perpetuity.

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<v Speaker 3>You've already got people not getting the care that they need.

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<v Speaker 3>If that is what it takes, that is what we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to do. Because a lot of people have just

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<v Speaker 3>read this and said, oh, it's hard to feel sorry

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<v Speaker 3>for someone who wants a twenty five percent pay rise.

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<v Speaker 4>They are paid very well.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, they're a precious, rare resources exactly, but what they

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<v Speaker 3>were asking for didn't even put them on parity with

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<v Speaker 3>the other states, where they can get well over more

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<v Speaker 3>than one hundred k what they're currently earning here in

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<v Speaker 3>New South Wales. So all they were really asking for

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<v Speaker 3>was their dues. The Men's government has consistently proved to

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<v Speaker 3>be completely tone deaf, and so you do wonder who

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<v Speaker 3>among us would do any differently.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about these stories. I always think the government

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<v Speaker 1>was going to spend twenty five million dollars on a

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<v Speaker 1>flag pole on the Harbor Bridge. So we can't afford

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<v Speaker 1>mental health, but a flagpole for the indigenous flag, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we could do twenty five million.

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<v Speaker 5>Novel is just obscene, particularly in the middle of a

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<v Speaker 5>mental health crisis that we know we're facing in this

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<v Speaker 5>country that the government state governments can spend money on

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<v Speaker 5>all of these ridiculous things and they can't stop up

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<v Speaker 5>the money to have an operational public health system. And

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<v Speaker 5>wonder our countries in tatus And when we're talking about

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<v Speaker 5>the public surface, let's go down to my old state

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<v Speaker 5>of South Australia, where, far from having troubles with being

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<v Speaker 5>able to get public service.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got too many of them.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I suspect these people don't work in the health system.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, the people we're talking about here most of

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<v Speaker 5>them worked, or I should say used to work in

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<v Speaker 5>the Department of Transport and Infrastructure. They have in South

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<v Speaker 5>Australia one hundred and eighteen of what they call x

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<v Speaker 5>SESS public servants who sit supposedly in what is referred.

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<v Speaker 2>To as a waiting room.

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<v Speaker 5>Now these are public service and these numbers are basically

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<v Speaker 5>doubled in the last four years, from fifty one in

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty now to one hundred and eighteen in twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty four. So these are people who've been put off work.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know their jobs have been made redundant, or

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<v Speaker 5>their roles have changed, et cetera. But for whatever reason

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<v Speaker 5>they can't actually be sacked from the public service. So

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<v Speaker 5>they are told, you just go and wait for us

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<v Speaker 5>to find a job for you to do. Meanwhile, you're

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<v Speaker 5>on full pay. I mean, how good.

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<v Speaker 2>Does this sound? Where do I get one of these jobs?

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<v Speaker 5>One hundred and eighteen of them, ninety four of them

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<v Speaker 5>have not worked for at least nine months. I mean

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<v Speaker 5>they've been at home on gardening leave. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>they've been on caravan holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing whatever they want all week nine months, at least

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<v Speaker 2>on full pay.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, the average public service in South Australia gets ninety

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<v Speaker 5>five and a half grand every year. Now, of course

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<v Speaker 5>average includes teachers and nurses, so that drags the average down.

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<v Speaker 5>So if we're to assume that you've made it to

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<v Speaker 5>a level where you basically can't be sacked, you're probably

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<v Speaker 5>well into the one hundred thousand dollars mark, and you're

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<v Speaker 5>twe hundred and eighteen of them in South Australia alone.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'd hate to think about the rest of the

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<v Speaker 5>country sitting around doing just waiting for a job.

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<v Speaker 2>And can you believe it?

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<v Speaker 5>The government said this is to quote the Advertiser. Government

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<v Speaker 5>officials say excess employees who for a variety of reasons

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<v Speaker 5>are surplus to requirements but still have a job undertake

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<v Speaker 5>different tasks. This has previously included helping with the COVID

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen response and minor maintenance worm.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're just sitting there waiting that life paying.

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<v Speaker 5>Barry, Barry, we need someone to put a liquor of

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<v Speaker 5>paint on the front of.

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<v Speaker 2>The hospital today.

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<v Speaker 1>Reckon, you can do it. Seriously, I love their definition

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<v Speaker 1>and excess employees. A staff member who is surfl surplus

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<v Speaker 1>to requirements but still has a job, Well, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a job before surplus to requirements? This would

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<v Speaker 1>never be tolerated in the private segment. Mismanagement and these

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<v Speaker 1>public service that's not a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>That's money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's may money, and that's the problem. They've never had

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<v Speaker 1>their own business, so they've never run a business, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've never had to spend their own money or put

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<v Speaker 1>their own capital on the line, and so you end

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<v Speaker 1>up with wastage like this.

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<v Speaker 4>And yet you should.

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<v Speaker 3>Be using the taxpayer dollar even more sacredly than you

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<v Speaker 3>would if you were running your own business, because at

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<v Speaker 3>least then you're only throwing around your own money and

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<v Speaker 3>taking risks. This is everybody else's hard earned cash, and

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<v Speaker 3>not just the disdain with which they tried to explain

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<v Speaker 3>this away, like South Australians are just stupid flogged who

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<v Speaker 3>are going to be like, oh yeah, so they're access

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<v Speaker 3>to requirements.

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<v Speaker 4>But they've still got a job. They didn't explain it

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<v Speaker 4>at all.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got one hundred and eighteen bums not in seats

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<v Speaker 3>doing absolutely nothing on full pay. But everyone in every

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<v Speaker 3>single state knows that the number of excess employees when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to government are a lot higher than that.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to be the bearer of bad news.

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<v Speaker 4>What am I saying?

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<v Speaker 3>I love it when it's about government, but this is

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<v Speaker 3>we learned last year that one in five workers in

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<v Speaker 3>Australia works for the government.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, if you're essential.

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<v Speaker 3>Services, if you're a nurse, if you're a policeman, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're an ambo, if you're one of those guys, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>You run the country. You are the backbone.

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<v Speaker 3>We literally wouldn't be alive without you. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 3>all the people who are sitting in these bloated government

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<v Speaker 3>departments that we know are doing sweet jack all with

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<v Speaker 3>their nine to five. It used to be that when

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<v Speaker 3>someone was in the public service, we knew that they

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<v Speaker 3>were actually paid slightly less than the average person in

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<v Speaker 3>the private sector, but they also did slightly less as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Since when have we not heard someone say, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>work in the public sector and we all roll our eyes, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But nowadays everyone knows these guys have never been paid

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<v Speaker 3>more to do so little.

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<v Speaker 1>And the next time you hear the government boast about

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<v Speaker 1>how they've got unemployment down. Yeah, they've got unemployment down

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<v Speaker 1>by having a waiting room where they pay people. Try

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<v Speaker 1>it around. But I'll tell you what the economic figures

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<v Speaker 1>look fantastic.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the doll bear in mind, in mind they're on

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen percent super public servants as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, or actually it's probably more.

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<v Speaker 5>Because it used to be when it was ten percent

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<v Speaker 5>in the private sect, was fifteen and what's it now

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<v Speaker 5>twelve odd percent in the privacy, So it's probably seventeen

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<v Speaker 5>percent in the in the public sector now. But I

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<v Speaker 5>used to sit we're talking about Adelaide. I used to

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<v Speaker 5>go to a cafe regularly in the city in Adelaide,

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<v Speaker 5>and without fail, every day at roughly three pm, there

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<v Speaker 5>was a public service building next door. This same group

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<v Speaker 5>would always come in and they'd sit there for about

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<v Speaker 5>forty five minutes and have a coffee in a chat.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, hang on a minute.

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<v Speaker 5>So you've probably had a one hour lunch break earlier

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<v Speaker 5>in the day. You probably had morning tea and smoko,

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<v Speaker 5>and now you're coming in at three o'clock and you're

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<v Speaker 5>sitting here for forty five minutes gates bag and having coffee,

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<v Speaker 5>and then you probably go back to the office and

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<v Speaker 5>do fifteen minutes of emails and get on the bus.

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<v Speaker 4>And go on.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say at parties when people say, so,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do for work? I'm an excess employee.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so important that.

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<v Speaker 3>Even when they have no work committed, do they They

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<v Speaker 3>just want me to hang around They.

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<v Speaker 4>Cannot part with me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Mark Zuckerberg's that Meta has decided that they are

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<v Speaker 3>joining the list of companies that are trying out the

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<v Speaker 3>DEI policies. Diversity equity inclusions suddenly doesn't matter anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Now companies have kind of made this cool of late.

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<v Speaker 3>McDonald's done it, Starbucks has done it, Walmart, Ha's done it,

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<v Speaker 3>Ford Harley Davison.

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<v Speaker 4>The list wears on.

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<v Speaker 3>So Mark Zuckerberg thinks, well, I'm going to get onto

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<v Speaker 3>this too. So I'm announcing to everyone that I too,

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<v Speaker 3>am ditching my DEI policies. Of course, I personally don't

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<v Speaker 3>buy this for five seconds. This is the same guy

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<v Speaker 3>who just last week told everyone that, despite insisting for

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<v Speaker 3>years that Facebook wasn't censoring free speech, that Facebook is

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<v Speaker 3>now going to stop censoring free speech. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>same guy who allegedly stole the very idea of Facebook

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<v Speaker 3>from the Twins, who then successfully sued him for sixty

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<v Speaker 3>five million dollars. This is the same guy who admitted

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<v Speaker 3>just last year to colluding with the Biden administration. He

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<v Speaker 3>admitted to doing their bidding. He outright admitted to participating

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<v Speaker 3>in mucking.

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<v Speaker 4>Up the campaigns.

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<v Speaker 3>This was election interference straight, and he stared down the

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<v Speaker 3>barrel and told everyone so. This guy is so desperately

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<v Speaker 3>in need of a pr revamp and image revamp. He's

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<v Speaker 3>even presenting himself very differently these days.

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<v Speaker 4>Physically, he's grown his hair around. He's talking to Joe Rogan.

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<v Speaker 3>About how actually masculinity is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Of all things to talk about.

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<v Speaker 6>It's one thing to say we want to be kind

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<v Speaker 6>of like welcoming and make a good environment for everyone,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think it's another to basically say that masculinity

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<v Speaker 6>is bad. And I just think we kind of swung

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<v Speaker 6>culturally to that part of the kind of the spectrum

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<v Speaker 6>where it's all like, Okay, masculinity is toxic, we have

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<v Speaker 6>to get rid of it completely. It's like no, like

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<v Speaker 6>it's both of these things are good.

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<v Speaker 3>He said he's done with culturally newted aspects of corporate

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<v Speaker 3>America and is now helping lead the charge saying we

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<v Speaker 3>need masculine energy.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm riding it all the way to gold.

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<v Speaker 3>Seriously, who is falling for this? We all know it's

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<v Speaker 3>the Trump effect. Guys, lectus fingers. Dark it up in

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<v Speaker 3>the air. The winds are changing, and now he wants

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<v Speaker 3>to be in the cool club.

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<v Speaker 1>Would he be saying this if Kamala Harris had won

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<v Speaker 1>the election. Absolutely not. He's of course sucking up to

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. The irony is, if he had an ounce

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<v Speaker 1>of masculinity, he would not be sucking up to Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>He would stand on his principles that he's a Democrat.

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<v Speaker 1>He hates Trump, he hates all that Trump stands for,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wouldn't have that haircut either.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned that right because you mentioned it before. He's

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<v Speaker 2>had a total image. Even look at what Mark Zuckerberg

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<v Speaker 2>used to look like.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it looks like an alien. And suddenly now

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<v Speaker 5>he's got the curly hair and he's got the chain

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<v Speaker 5>out over the top of the T shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>He's trying to look cool.

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<v Speaker 5>He's trying to put himself forward as though he's cool.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's actually a bit jealous. I mean, look

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<v Speaker 5>at him there. I think he's a bit jealous of

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<v Speaker 5>Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 1>Now massively, there's a positive side to this though, right

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<v Speaker 1>because we wonder how big will the Trump effect be

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<v Speaker 1>if someone like Mark Zuckerberg is going to go to

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<v Speaker 1>such extreme lengths. He's been on Fox and Friends, he's

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Joe Rogan. He must have hated that. Internally,

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<v Speaker 1>He's appointed a Trump official to his board. He's appointed

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<v Speaker 1>a high ranking Republican to be his global affairs chief.

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<v Speaker 5>He's given money to the Trump inauguration.

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<v Speaker 1>And if he's going to all of this effort to

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<v Speaker 1>try and ingratiate himself, it just tells you how afraid

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<v Speaker 1>the left are of the influenced Trump will have and

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<v Speaker 1>that many of them believe we better get on board

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise we're going to go the way of bud life.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is why the election of Trump was so important.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, whether it's Trump or someone as it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 5>It's what Trump brings to the table, his leadership that

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<v Speaker 5>has turned the culture almost president again.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you were thinking, oh, who's running in the

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<v Speaker 5>United States, you're not thinking about Joe Biden. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>he's already met with every world leader basically except for

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<v Speaker 5>Anthony Alban Easy, He's met with Maloney, he's had a

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<v Speaker 5>Trudeau came to well.

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<v Speaker 2>Before accident.

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<v Speaker 1>And he doesn't want to meet.

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<v Speaker 5>But Trudeau came down and kissed the ring to try

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<v Speaker 5>and smooth the waters over. He has been far more

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<v Speaker 5>of a president than Biden has been in four years,

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<v Speaker 5>in the two odd months he's been waiting to become

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<v Speaker 5>the inaugurated president of the people.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to be careful here because obviously there's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a lot of victory marches over the next four

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<v Speaker 3>years of the Trump term where things like this happen.

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<v Speaker 3>These giants of the left seemingly come and kiss the ring.

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<v Speaker 3>The point is, never forget their true loyalties, never forget

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<v Speaker 3>who they really are, and that is weak, weak men.

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<v Speaker 4>The irony of listening to.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Zuckerberg talk about true masculinity. You are the week kissed,

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<v Speaker 3>week kissed person on the planet that you would see

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<v Speaker 3>supposedly change all your deeply held virtues and convictions.

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<v Speaker 4>You clearly don't have any.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is what every single one of these corporates

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<v Speaker 3>has done. Yes, we can view it as a victory,

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<v Speaker 3>but they are simply doing it because they don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to lose money. They don't want to lose customers. They

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<v Speaker 3>are trying to appeal to their base. They have not

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<v Speaker 3>had to come to Jesus moment. This is not revelatory

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<v Speaker 3>in any way. It comes down to the bottom line. So,

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<v Speaker 3>like I say, just do not forget who these people really.

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<v Speaker 5>That is the funniest bit of all of it, of course, right,

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<v Speaker 5>because all of the useless idiot lefties have been running

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<v Speaker 5>around all these years saying, well, of course we're right,

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<v Speaker 5>because the corporates agree with us as well. And this

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<v Speaker 5>is the zeit guys to sit the corporates. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 5>to break it to you, we're only ever doing it

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<v Speaker 5>because they thought it would make the money. They didn't

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<v Speaker 5>give a toss about DEI and making sure they had

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<v Speaker 5>more Asians than white people and more gay people and straba.

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<v Speaker 2>They couldn't give a top.

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<v Speaker 5>All they care about is that money is flowing into

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<v Speaker 5>their coffers. If they think they can do something that

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<v Speaker 5>will make money come in, that is what they will do.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's all they were ever doing. They never actually

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<v Speaker 5>cared about your diversity.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's beautiful to see how Trump is fooled by

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<v Speaker 1>any of this. I love the way Trump has invited

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Rudd and Pennywong to his inauguration. All is forgiven. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he just wants to give them front row seats to

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<v Speaker 1>see him do exactly now, as nothing would be sweeter

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<v Speaker 1>talking about trying to understand people's convictions and where they stand.

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<v Speaker 1>The Catholic Church is proving a little bit confusing. Last

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<v Speaker 1>year they started to bless same sex couples, though said

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<v Speaker 1>that was not an endorsement of same sex relationships. The

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<v Speaker 1>Pope last year complained that too many homosexuals were entering

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<v Speaker 1>seminary used an Italian word that was roughly translated. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's too much faggotry in the Vatican, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>everybody picked up his violation of woke language codes. Rather

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<v Speaker 1>than addressing the issue that he was trying to point

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<v Speaker 1>to is that the Church believes homosexuality is a sin,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet there's all these homosexuals in the seminary that

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<v Speaker 1>was last year. This year, the pope is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>win friends from people who will never be his friends.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said this that they're going to approve gay

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<v Speaker 1>men as priests, but they'll be barred from quote, flaunting

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<v Speaker 1>their homosexuality, which CALEBN Liz begs the question, what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>do you define as flaunting homosexuality before you answer that,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm sure you've got an answer, But let me

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<v Speaker 1>review what the Vatican have said. They've least a sixty

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<v Speaker 1>eight page guideline specifically directed at persons with homosexual tendencies

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<v Speaker 1>who approach seminaries or who discover such a situation during

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<v Speaker 1>their training. So the Vatican has said the Church, while

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<v Speaker 1>profoundly respecting the persons in question, cannot admit to the

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<v Speaker 1>seminary and to Holly orders those who practice homosexuality present

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<v Speaker 1>deeply rooted homosexual tendencies or support the so called gay culture.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can have homosexual tendencies provided you're.

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<v Speaker 5>Not two.

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<v Speaker 1>One the word I'm looking for.

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<v Speaker 5>Camp, camp, camp, as long as you're not, mister Humphreys

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<v Speaker 5>in are you being served?

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<v Speaker 2>Then you're five. I can't.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I thought it says that those who practice homosexually.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't think you were allowed to practice any form

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<v Speaker 5>of sexuality. If you were a priest, you take a

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<v Speaker 5>vow of celibacy. And what they're essentially saying is, look,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we don't necessarily want gay people, but we'll

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<v Speaker 5>put it in the context because they're saying, if you

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<v Speaker 5>have homosexual tendencies whatever exactly that is that they must

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<v Speaker 5>grasp its significance quotes unquote in the global picture of

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<v Speaker 5>a young person's personality to form an overall harmony. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know. This sounds like the stuff you read in

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<v Speaker 5>those corporate modules you have to do about not bullying

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:58.479
<v Speaker 5>people and not sexually harassing people, et cetera. But they're like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 5>we'll look at it and go look if there's something

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<v Speaker 5>here that doesn't really fit the doctrine of the church.

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<v Speaker 5>But we're desperate enough to get some more priests will

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<v Speaker 5>let you in any way. I mean, do you believe

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<v Speaker 5>it or don't you? Surely it's as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not a Catholic, but Surely if you believe in

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<v Speaker 5>the doctrine, you believe in the doctrine.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you don't exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it is that simple.

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<v Speaker 3>And all my actual Catholics out there, we have got

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<v Speaker 3>to take back the Vatican.

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<v Speaker 4>Seriously.

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<v Speaker 3>We all know Pope Benny should never have resigned, chosen

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 3>by God resigns. I mean, explain to me how that works.

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<v Speaker 3>Pope Francis has been a blasphemer in my humble estimation,

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<v Speaker 3>since the day he was elected.

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<v Speaker 4>For crying out loud, last year, he.

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<v Speaker 3>Decided that popes could bless not pope's priests, sorry, could

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<v Speaker 3>bless same sex marriages.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, mate, have you even read the Bible?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I remember having this discussion with Joeyldebran one

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<v Speaker 3>night live on air, and he said to me, with Storra,

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<v Speaker 3>are you saying that you know more than the Pope.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, Joe, I'm as surprised as you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it turns out I do. For crying out loud,

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<v Speaker 3>we are now talking about black and white biblical principles.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't need to read fifty and cyclicals. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to go through the ancient Catholic texts of no

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<v Speaker 3>no This is straight out of the Bible, very black

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<v Speaker 3>and white.

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<v Speaker 4>No question marks whatsoever.

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 3>I have a degree in biblical studies, so I can

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<v Speaker 3>read it in any language you like. Unfurl the dead

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 3>seas grolls. I'll walk you through it. And these people

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<v Speaker 3>in the Vatican have decided, oh no, this is perfectly fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you will even be able to practice. You will

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<v Speaker 3>be sworn in as a priest. You will be able

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<v Speaker 3>to administer the Holy You charrest while being just gay

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<v Speaker 3>in priests.

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<v Speaker 1>And the problem is the role of the church is

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<v Speaker 1>to preach what they believe is God's word, whether people

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.239
<v Speaker 1>accept it or not. They're there to communicate it, not

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>to win a popularity contest. So the pope here believes

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.199
<v Speaker 1>obviously that this will ingratiate him with a section of

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<v Speaker 1>the community who might otherwise be very critical of the

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 1>Catholic Church. But count to five and they'll be saying,

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<v Speaker 1>how could the Catholic Church suppress the natural urges or

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<v Speaker 1>tendencies of people by allowing them in? But then saying,

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<v Speaker 1>but you must not be your authentic true self. So

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<v Speaker 1>the very people he's trying to impress will be nailing

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<v Speaker 1>him to a cross. Five minutes from now because they

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>won't appreciate this sop to the LGBTQ culture. Meanwhile, he's

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<v Speaker 1>alienating all the Catholics who believe in biblical truth because

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<v Speaker 1>no one now.

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<v Speaker 4>Knows he did that a long time ago. He lost

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<v Speaker 4>them a long time.

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<v Speaker 5>I've told this story before, but a maid of mine

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<v Speaker 5>who's been a lifelong Catholic, he was the treasurer of

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 5>his local Catholic church for twenty odd years, is that

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<v Speaker 5>he'll never darken the door of a Catholic church again.

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<v Speaker 5>Whilst Francis is pope because he's too woke, he's just

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<v Speaker 5>had it up.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>And I would say, again, as someone without a dog

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<v Speaker 5>in the fight.

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<v Speaker 2>To whom are you preaching?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, if you're saying we need more people, because

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, that's the only reason I can think

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<v Speaker 5>of that you're doing now.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not like oh to wa'ts the point drastic point point.

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<v Speaker 1>Is popular, and this pope has always been about trying

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<v Speaker 1>to have the crowd applaud him and it never works.

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<v Speaker 3>And Jesus was about the very opposite. The Gospel is

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 3>a short synopsis. He is like sob the crowd like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you like the approval of the world, whatever you do,

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<v Speaker 3>don't follow me.

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 4>Jesus literally said that. And the point of this everything

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<v Speaker 4>he does is eat whether.

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<v Speaker 1>People watching agree with the Church or not. The point

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>is we want our institutions to stand for what they

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<v Speaker 1>believe in, rather than you know, always sniffing the breeze

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and think I'll go in that direction. Mark Zuckenberg has

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>done exactly what the Pope did, all the same thing.

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>They sniffed the breeze. Move with that instead of standing

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>by conviction, we need politicians, We need priests, et cetera,

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 1>et cetera, who have the courage of their con.

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<v Speaker 5>The Trump effect hasn't made it to the Catholic Church apparently,

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 5>but one more place you imagine, I know, can you imagine?

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 5>But the Trump effect is playing out here in Australia.

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 5>But because it's not the Trump effect here, it was

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<v Speaker 5>basically the voice effect. I said earlier on the Shari's

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<v Speaker 5>program tonight, the greatest thing that Anthony Albanezi ever did

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<v Speaker 5>for this country was setting up the.

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<v Speaker 2>Voice to fail.

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<v Speaker 5>Because by the voice failing, it gave us the ordinary

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<v Speaker 5>Australians a voice to say what we actually think the

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<v Speaker 5>things we've been thinking for so long about the direction

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<v Speaker 5>of this country, especially when it comes to things like

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<v Speaker 5>Indigenous affairs, that we don't want to be welcome to

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<v Speaker 5>our own country anymore, that we are actually happy to

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<v Speaker 5>celebrate Australia Day. And new polling from the IPA has

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<v Speaker 5>found that people are more ready now to say that

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<v Speaker 5>they support Australia Day. Their poll last year, and they've

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<v Speaker 5>been doing this poll for years about how many people

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<v Speaker 5>support Australia Day being on January the twenty sixth. Last

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<v Speaker 5>year it was sixty three percent of respondents said it

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<v Speaker 5>should be on January twenty sixth. This year it's sixty

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<v Speaker 5>nine percent. Now, I suspect that there are a lot

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 5>of people who've been sitting on the fence for a

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<v Speaker 5>while because they feel like they can't say what they

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 5>actually think, because you know, in polite company, when I

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<v Speaker 5>go to my dinner parties in Wallara or Balmaine or somewhere,

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 5>and I can slack Balmain now because I live there

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<v Speaker 5>amongst all the inner West lefties in Sydney, but oh

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't possibly look, you know, maybe we should change

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 5>it from January twenty six Now they're like, no, don't

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 5>have to hide this anymore. I do actually support Australia Day,

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<v Speaker 5>and thank God for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 5>I think was the year that woke started to die

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<v Speaker 5>in this country, thank heavens. And we're starting to see

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<v Speaker 5>the results of that, including the Opposition leader Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 5>saying that if he were to become primetill later this year,

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<v Speaker 5>he would enforce councils holding citizenship ceremonies on Australia Day, which,

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<v Speaker 5>of course, as we know, they have been canceling.

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<v Speaker 7>Would we reinstate the requirement for councils to hold citizenship

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 7>ceremonies on Australia You bet it'll be done the first

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<v Speaker 7>hundred days and it will be a sign of pride

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 7>and nationalism in our country. I want us as a

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<v Speaker 7>population to be united.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know that might have been a bit of

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<v Speaker 5>policy on the run there, because if you look at

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 5>Michaulia Cash after he said, if he sort of turns

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<v Speaker 5>all that's good, that's good. I don't care if it's

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 5>policy on the run, because it's just common sense and

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 5>we're starting to see a return of common sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to hide.

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<v Speaker 5>The fact I like Australia Day anymore. And it was

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<v Speaker 5>the same last year, of course, when Woolley said that

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 5>they weren't going to stock Australia Day year, and it

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 5>felt like a real turning point where after years and

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<v Speaker 5>years and years of being beaten over the head and

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<v Speaker 5>told oh, you can't suff at Australia Day, on January

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 5>twenty sixth people just sort of unashamedly came out and said, actually, no,

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 5>we do like Australia Day. And I reckon last year

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 5>Australia Day had a real reinvigoration.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we owe you know, Woolworth's vote of thanks.

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I think we owe some of our elites like Ray Martin,

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<v Speaker 1>who famously said if you don't vote for the Voice,

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>you're a dickhead. We owe Ray Martin a great vote

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>of thanks. Those pit for support for Australia Day to

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 1>rise six percent in twelve months. I mean, I think

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>those guys should just keep on going, keep slagging off

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>about colonialism, keep hating on Australia, and watch support for

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Australia Day go up and up, because people have had

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>a gutful of it, and we've seen these pro Palestinian

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>protests every weekend in our streets and people are literally

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 1>watching our country fall apart before their eyes. And people

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>are saying, we want to get back to the things

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>that unify and unite us when I was a kid.

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not when you're a kid, because that was much

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>more recent. But Liz, you're a bit older than Caleb,

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>not quite as old as me. Australia day you go

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>to the beach and you'd wave your Australian flag. No

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>one was protesting, no one was going on about it,

0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>no one was toppling statues. It was a much better time.

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 1>And think people want to get back to those times

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>where we just all were Australian. We all enjoyed it,

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>we're all proud of it.

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're celebrating the present day. But I've got to

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 3>say this is such a gift to Dutton this year

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 3>because you've got the Trump administration roaring from the other

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 3>side of the world. We've seen populous leaders take the Netherlands,

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 3>take Italy, take how many other Argentina, So many of

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 3>them are coming back into the West.

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 4>Canada is about to change.

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 3>We're watching this in real time unfold in France and Germany.

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 3>As people say we are sick to death of this nonsense.

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Most of it is driven by far too higher immigration,

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 3>and that has given birth to this resurgence of nationalism

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 3>in people who still love their country and want it back,

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 3>and that.

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<v Speaker 4>Means more votes go to the more.

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Right leaning major party in any number of these countries.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that this is Dutton already has the

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 3>playbook for his campaign written out for him, and he's

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 3>already playing it beautifully. This is what people want and

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 3>we all know democracy in a nutshell, it is majority rules.

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Whoever has the most numbers gets elected and they get

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 3>the power. And this guy is very much on track.

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 3>I think if he keeps up this kind of rhetoric,

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 3>that's the first time I've heard an Australian Prime minister

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 3>even use the word nationalism for far too long.

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 4>Thank you Dutton. That was music to my ears.

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<v Speaker 1>Just before we go to a break, I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>got time to show you a quote from one of

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<v Speaker 1>the fire chiefs in LA. Of course, everyone's aware of

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<v Speaker 1>the situation in Los Angeles, those catastrophic fires that have

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<v Speaker 1>killed what was it twenty four people now dead, huge

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<v Speaker 1>numbers of homes and property destroyed, and of course there's

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<v Speaker 1>been failures on multiple levels, but I'm just got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we go to a break, show you this clip

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<v Speaker 1>from the LA Deputy Fire Chief. Now, this is Christine Larson,

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<v Speaker 1>whose job with the LA Fire Brigade is equity and

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<v Speaker 1>human resources boss. Have a listened to her and ask yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Many wonder they've got problems with fires in LA and

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<v Speaker 1>rescuing people haven't listened to this.

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<v Speaker 8>You want to see somebody that responds to your house,

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<v Speaker 8>your emergency, whether it's a medical call or a fire call,

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<v Speaker 8>that looks like you. It gives that person a little

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<v Speaker 8>bit more ease knowing that somebody might understand their situation better.

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<v Speaker 8>Is she strong enough to do this? Or you couldn't

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<v Speaker 8>carry my husband out of a fire, which my response

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<v Speaker 8>is he got himself in the wrong place if I

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<v Speaker 8>have to carry him out of a fire.

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<v Speaker 1>I just had to show you that because we've spent

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<v Speaker 1>so much time tonight talking about Wokery and DEEI could

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<v Speaker 1>you believe a deputy fire chief in a city like

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles says it's really important if you're caught in

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<v Speaker 1>the burning building that the person who comes to save

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<v Speaker 1>you looks approximately like you. Otherwise you'd want to send

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<v Speaker 1>them back to the fire truck and say you've got

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's a bit more sort of you know, representative of.

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<v Speaker 5>Beer bed or you're not carrying me out of this

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<v Speaker 5>fire now?

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<v Speaker 2>Like serious?

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<v Speaker 1>And people blame climate chain for the devastation.

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<v Speaker 3>Is you've lost everything in this fire, right and guess

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<v Speaker 3>who comes to comfort you now? On top of everything

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to put up with Megan Markl. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>is there anything this woman can't make about herself?

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<v Speaker 4>Police?

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<v Speaker 3>This is the bride at every wedding, the corpse at

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<v Speaker 3>every funeral, the baby at every baby dedication.

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<v Speaker 4>Here she is in the thick of it, making.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure everyone knows that she Megan Markle has arrived on

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<v Speaker 3>the scene to hand out well hugs, maybe some maybe

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<v Speaker 3>some money would be nice. I mean, are you going

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<v Speaker 3>to put any of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Shiggy where your mouth is or are you just literally.

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<v Speaker 3>Here to hand out hugs because you're a famous personality

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<v Speaker 3>so people must care. I mean this absolutely did my

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<v Speaker 3>head in when you look at the level of the devastation.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen any actual movie stars or rock stars

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<v Speaker 3>come out to behave like this, But no Meghan Markel,

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<v Speaker 3>Meghan Markle, He's on the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>If my house was destroyed in the La fires, I

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<v Speaker 1>would rather deal with the looters.

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<v Speaker 5>Than you know what that fire chief should have said.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't lift a man mate.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go to a break. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll look at what's making news tomorrow, including Anthony Albaneze

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<v Speaker 1>very vague on when he might get around to meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with the President elect. And news that one point five

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<v Speaker 1>million Australians have put off going to the doctors because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just too expensive. All of that when we look

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<v Speaker 1>at the papers in just a moment, Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the program. Let's take a look at what's making news

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<v Speaker 1>in tomorrow's papers. We'll start with the Herald's Sun, which

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<v Speaker 1>has got a pretty alarming story. As they're splash. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an exclusive Alarming figures reveal hundreds of Victoria Police members

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<v Speaker 1>investigated for alleged rapes, sexual harassment and family violence. Dark

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<v Speaker 1>Side of the Force, reads the headline. The article says

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria Police is grappling with accusations of sexual misconduct in

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<v Speaker 1>its ranks, as hundreds of members face internal investigations for

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<v Speaker 1>alleged rapes, harassment and family violence. The force's sexual offenses

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<v Speaker 1>and Family Violence Unit has investigated about six hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty of its own offices during the past five years. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the report continues inside the paper. We don't have access

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<v Speaker 1>to that. We've just got the front page for tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>But six hundred and eighty Victorian police serving police over

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<v Speaker 1>the past five years investigated by their own task force

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<v Speaker 1>over things as serious as rape and domestic violence. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to shake your faith in the police force.

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<v Speaker 3>And do you get stood down while you're being investigated?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean if you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally you are the government's muscles supposed to be exacting

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<v Speaker 3>justice on the streets and you yourself are under investigation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry to say it, but this reminded me of

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<v Speaker 3>the stories that we were made aware of when I

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<v Speaker 3>was studying criminal law at u SID And you learn

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<v Speaker 3>where the cops earned this nickname by some of pigs.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's how people, certain people, usually people from the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong side of the tracks, see them, because these stories

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<v Speaker 3>are something that you go into depth in criminal law.

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<v Speaker 3>And I swear especially our lecturer was just trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make defense.

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<v Speaker 4>Lawyers out of us. All don't work for the crown, become.

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<v Speaker 3>A defense lawyer like me, so that was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>this person's bent as they were lecturing, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>aware of that, but stories like this just bring that

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<v Speaker 3>back to mind, and I'm like, my goodness, And as

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<v Speaker 3>I always say, when nearly any story comes up, you

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<v Speaker 3>know that whatever makes it to the press is really

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<v Speaker 3>just the tip of the iceberg. If that's how many

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<v Speaker 3>cases that they're aware of, how many of them aren't.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is just one state, how many in the

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<v Speaker 3>other states?

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<v Speaker 4>What the hell? And who puts them?

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<v Speaker 5>As you're talking about earlier that you know, the Victorian

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<v Speaker 5>police are in such a pickle at the moment in

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<v Speaker 5>terms of staff numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were the.

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<v Speaker 5>Police commissioner, you'd probably feel retis to tell anyone to

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<v Speaker 5>buzz off while we investigate, because if you start losing

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<v Speaker 5>more and more numbers, you end up in such a position.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're being pulled in one.

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<v Speaker 1>For us, the Victorian Police commissioner, I'd be taking a

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<v Speaker 1>trip up north to Queensland.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be taking.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty grand and I'd go there much less problems. Palatial

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<v Speaker 1>palace costs is the other interesting front page headline in

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<v Speaker 1>The Herald's son jetting jet setting rather Former Treasurer Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Pallas slug taxpayers more than six hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars during a decade of luxury travel in the top job.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is the former labor Victorian premier who resigned

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<v Speaker 1>in December, leaving his state approaching one hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>seven billion dollars in debt. But it turns out just

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<v Speaker 1>a month or two before he resigned, he spent seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars on a farewell tour of Britain, France,

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<v Speaker 1>Italy and Spain. And just before that, he spent sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand dollars for a fifteen day trip to the

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<v Speaker 1>US and Canada. Get this, exploring strategies to tackle debt.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, he resigned just weeks after that lightning trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Great service to the Victoria taxpayer. Can you believe it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Tim Pallas not heard of the Internet? Here's this amazing

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<v Speaker 5>thing now where you can go online. You can read

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<v Speaker 5>pretty much anything you want anywhere in the world. Heck,

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<v Speaker 5>you can even talk to anyone you want, pretty much

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<v Speaker 5>anywhere in the world about things like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Economics and how to tackle debt.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like if you've got to get on a plane

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<v Speaker 5>to go overseas to work out how to fix the

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<v Speaker 5>problem that you created by spending lots of money to

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<v Speaker 5>go overseas. For God, the treasurer of Victoria, what do

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<v Speaker 5>you need to do going to Britain, France and Italy.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not running their books, are you? I mean, for

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<v Speaker 5>goodness sake, if Pallace was running their books.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's been kicking him out, deporting him.

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<v Speaker 5>What does a treasurer need to be doing that force

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<v Speaker 5>so serious?

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<v Speaker 4>If you dosn't to the front page of the Townsville Bulletin.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you've heard of flying doctors. Check out flying coppers.

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<v Speaker 3>Five foo cops target city new thirty two million dollar

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<v Speaker 3>flying squad to crack down on crem's. A specialized state

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<v Speaker 3>flying squad will soon be deployed in crime hotspots of

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<v Speaker 3>Queensland at a moment's notice. With Townsville suburbs set to

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<v Speaker 3>benefit from more eyes in the sky, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that they have incentives for.

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<v Speaker 3>People to go ruural, much like they do for rural teachers, etc.

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<v Speaker 3>There's certain areas people just don't want to work for

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<v Speaker 3>rather obvious reasons, Townsville being one of them. I imagine

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<v Speaker 3>if you're a copper, quite a few crime problems.

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<v Speaker 4>But now they're just literally gonna parachute him in. It

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<v Speaker 4>sounds pretty epic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually a great idea for a state as vast

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<v Speaker 1>as Queens And they used to have seventeen police on

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<v Speaker 1>this fly in squad. They've bumped it up to fifty

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<v Speaker 1>eight because of the increased L and P funding. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got a place like Townsville that has a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden crime surge all of a sudden, you can bump

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<v Speaker 1>up police numbers by fifty eight. These especially trained officers

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<v Speaker 1>could come in to address a specific thing good for

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<v Speaker 1>the community, a helpful local police. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good move.

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<v Speaker 5>Sounds fantastic. I can't believe no one's thought of it earlier.

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<v Speaker 5>To be perfectly honest, let's go to the Olds tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 5>where it says crucial face to face with Trump. It'll

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<v Speaker 5>be a journey to the summit. Anthony Albanizi has pointed

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<v Speaker 5>to the Quad leaders meeting that could be months away for.

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<v Speaker 2>His possible first face to face.

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<v Speaker 5>Meeting with Donald Trump, as former Foreign Minister Julie Bishop

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<v Speaker 5>cast out on how long Australian Ambassador to the us.

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<v Speaker 5>Kevin Rudd will last funny about that. But he's got

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<v Speaker 5>an invitation to the inauguration and the Prime Minister doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean imagine saying oh, we'll meet at the Quad

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<v Speaker 5>in a few months when he may or may not

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<v Speaker 5>even be Prime minister. He knows why and this is

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 5>the problem for him, right. He knows he's steering down

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<v Speaker 5>the barrel of an election. He is very much in

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.880
<v Speaker 5>election mode. Darton's very much in election mode.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't afford to.

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<v Speaker 5>Go overseas at the moment to say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I won't be here on the screens in Australia. I

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<v Speaker 5>might lose my prime ministership. You can't even go to

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<v Speaker 5>one of the most important events in the world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that worry.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's saying maybe at the Quad. The court hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even been scheduled yet, so he's literally just making stuff

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly. The Canberra Times have got an interesting store

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>in the front page. GPS call for larger rebates. The

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Peak body for doctors is calling on the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>to lift Medicare rebates to address rising out of pocket

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 1>costs that disproportionately affect act residents. As the Albanezy government,

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<v Speaker 1>of course ramp up a pre election scare campaign warning

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 1>of coalition cuts now the camera. Time also reported that

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<v Speaker 1>about one point five million Australians did not go to

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<v Speaker 1>see a doctor in the last twelve months because they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't find anyone who bulk bills and so couldn't afford

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to pay the gap. So that's pretty concerning, but even

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<v Speaker 1>more interesting when you consider that Labor, as the paper reports,

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<v Speaker 1>are ramping up this scare campaign against the coalition. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not doing great on health themselves. We're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a break when we come back. The Victorian government

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<v Speaker 1>started a sobering up center for drunken Victorians to give

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<v Speaker 1>them a bed for the night. Turns out no one's

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<v Speaker 1>using it, but Victorians are paying a mozza that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>up in just a moment. Well, Victoria continues to amaze

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<v Speaker 1>the public. Drunkenness used to be a offence in Victoria,

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<v Speaker 1>but then the Labor government, in their wisdom, decided drunks

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to sell for the night and to find.

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<v Speaker 1>What they need is love and a warm bed. Provided

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<v Speaker 1>that taxpayer expense. They stripped police of the ability to

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>erect people for being drunk in public and instead ordered

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>police to take people to taxpayer funded sobering up centers.

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<v Speaker 1>They built three of these centers at a cost of

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<v Speaker 1>seventy nine million dollars over three years. So how do

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:16.319
<v Speaker 1>you reckon they're going? Do you reckon people drunk on

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<v Speaker 1>the streets say, oh, look, we'll go to a sobering

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 1>up center run by the government for the night. It

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>turns out, on average, two point nine people per night

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 1>are using the sobering up centers, which Liz means that

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<v Speaker 1>on current trends, victorians will be paying twenty five thousand

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 1>dollars per person per night to have a government funded

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<v Speaker 1>bed so they can get sober. I reckon the politicians

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<v Speaker 1>who came up with this were themselves in need of

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<v Speaker 1>a sobering up center.

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<v Speaker 4>They were drunk at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but honestly, what drunk have you ever been privy to?

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<v Speaker 3>That is like, you know what, I'm going to take this.

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<v Speaker 4>Opportunity stop being drunk.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're not so that they can't what look up

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<v Speaker 3>on the website?

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<v Speaker 4>Where are these centers? Where's my nearest one? Maps it?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe catch an uber or stagger there themselves, like have

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<v Speaker 3>you not met any drunk people? They are not going

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<v Speaker 3>to do that, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh and like public drugon when was the last time

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<v Speaker 5>you heard of someone being arrested for public drunkenness drunken disorderly?

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<v Speaker 5>But hacky, you're making a dickhead of yourself. You're going

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<v Speaker 5>to get picked up by the Hea.

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<v Speaker 2>You're disturbing the people.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't even a problem in the first place. But

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<v Speaker 5>the Labor government of Victoria has lots of solutions to

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<v Speaker 5>problems that don't exist. Speaking of Victoria, the Victorian Trades

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<v Speaker 5>Hall rocked up to Peter Dutton's quasi campaign launch yesterday

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<v Speaker 5>with that three eyed fish who saw of course, when

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<v Speaker 5>Dutton first said that he was going to bring nuclear

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<v Speaker 5>energy to Australia, he's the image here. Remember that we're

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<v Speaker 5>posting Labor MPs, etc. We're posting photos of this thing

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<v Speaker 5>online saying oh, this is what's going to happen if

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<v Speaker 5>you have nuclear energy. Albanezy todd to take that stuff

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<v Speaker 5>down and this is what the Victorian Trades Hall reckon

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<v Speaker 5>is going to win the election for Albanezi.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I say to them, keep going, let's have more

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<v Speaker 2>of this three.

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<v Speaker 5>I fish stuff, because if you think that's gonna work

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<v Speaker 5>you've got another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love the fact they're dragging around a toy

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<v Speaker 1>made of petrochemical perfect. That's it from us, good night,

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<v Speaker 1>but stick around. Coming up in just a moment, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the Reader Penny Show.