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Speaker 4: Rita. The big story over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Was, of course, the killing of Hezbolla leader Nasrallah. Now
Speaker 1: our first, no one was sure if he was dead
Speaker 1: or if you his bond. An extraordinary story. I'll be
Speaker 1: talking later about Benjamin nettin Yahoo's speech.
Speaker 4: And Penny Wong speech.
Speaker 1: You aren't going to that quite yet, Penny Wong speech
Speaker 1: and net and Yahoo speeches at the United Nations.
Speaker 4: But what happened immediately after, and people.
Speaker 1: Are saying all sorts of things, was the United Nations
Speaker 1: speech a decoy while the bombing happened, But immediately after
Speaker 1: n Israla was killed in those bombings of Hezbola, what
Speaker 1: do you make of it?
Speaker 3: Well, it looks like it was all very much coordinated.
Speaker 3: And Nettaya, whose appearance in New York was to give
Speaker 3: them the impression that perhaps they were focused on other areas,
Speaker 3: nothing was going to happen for that period, and that
Speaker 3: is precisely when they struck. So that in itself is fascinating.
Speaker 3: But they are cleaning up shop here. They do not
Speaker 3: want to leave terror groups whose sole goal is the
Speaker 3: elimination of the only Jewish state in the world to exist.
Speaker 3: So why go through what we're going through right now
Speaker 3: and leave Hamas Hezbola remaining just to launch the next
Speaker 3: October seven and the one after it and the one
Speaker 3: after it. So I can understand entirely the strategy and
Speaker 3: doesn't help when you've got the US wavering, You've got Australia,
Speaker 3: which is supposed to be a staunch ally of Israel,
Speaker 3: saying we need a ceasefire and we can't have this
Speaker 3: aggression continue. This aggression is in response to what hundreds
Speaker 3: of rockets flying across and we would have such enormous
Speaker 3: casualties if Israel wasn't able to defend itself so well,
Speaker 3: and that's something that is overlooked when we talk about
Speaker 3: it in this country.
Speaker 1: Well, it astonishes me because Pennywong made a complete fool
Speaker 1: of it self in my opinion, at the United Nations
Speaker 1: and carried on doing so this morning on Sky.
Speaker 4: In my opinion with this undergraduate, I think we.
Speaker 3: Can assume everything you say, Rowan is your opinion.
Speaker 4: It's an opinion show.
Speaker 3: It's an opinion.
Speaker 4: I knew it was different to the others. It's an.
Speaker 1: Thank you for reminding me reason good, excellent, So I
Speaker 1: won't need to qualify that any longer. But my point
Speaker 1: was that here we have the Australia in Foreign Minister
Speaker 1: making this kind of undergraduate. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: Penny Wog's thinking has moved since she was at the
Speaker 1: University of South Australia or Adelaide or whatever it was
Speaker 1: back in the nineteen seventies or eighties.
Speaker 4: She's still in this.
Speaker 1: Idea of this, oh, the two state solution, and she's
Speaker 1: banging on about, oh, you know, Israel's got to abide
Speaker 1: by the rules and all this sort of stuff. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you, Rita, there has not been a military
Speaker 1: force on this planet ever since the first og picked
Speaker 1: up a spear or a club and hit his mate
Speaker 1: over the head with it.
Speaker 4: There has never been an army on this planet.
Speaker 1: A military force that has treated civilians with such care take,
Speaker 1: gone out of its way to such an extent, used
Speaker 1: the full strength of its intelligence and its technology to
Speaker 1: ensure that civilian casualties are kept to an absolute minimum.
Speaker 1: There's never been a better ratio, Rita between killing the
Speaker 1: genuine enemy, the terrorists, and not killing civilians.
Speaker 4: Israel can rightly be proud of that.
Speaker 1: Yet we've got Penny Wong prancing around New York, prancing
Speaker 1: around talking about, oh, Israel's got to abide by the rules.
Speaker 1: They've got to do this, They've got to do that.
Speaker 1: They are abiding by the rules better than anyone has
Speaker 1: ever abided by them before. Reads are in my opinion, No.
Speaker 3: You're right there, and again Israel has held to a
Speaker 3: different standard than every other country, and that in itself
Speaker 3: is a problem here. They have gone out of their
Speaker 3: way to limit civilian casualties. Doesn't help when her mask
Speaker 3: put the the weapons the headquarters, amongst their people, in schools, hospitals, everywhere.
Speaker 3: They want to maximize casualties. They don't care about their
Speaker 3: own people. And yet they rely on this backlash in
Speaker 3: the West from leftist idiots to put pressure on Israel,
Speaker 3: and the leftist idiots never let them down. They're always there.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking about leftist idiots all over social media was oh,
Speaker 1: how terrible they've you know, they've destroyed, they've but indiscriminate
Speaker 1: bombing in Beiruts and all less. No, it was targeted
Speaker 1: against Tesbola very specifically. This Nazrula character has wait for it, Rita,
Speaker 1: where did the celebrations come The celebrations were in the
Speaker 1: Arab world. Let's have a look at, for example, in
Speaker 1: Syria where they were celebrating the death of Nazraela. Nazuela
Speaker 1: has been behind the you know, the the decades of
Speaker 1: violence in Lebanon in.
Speaker 3: Syria, callous murders, murders the.
Speaker 1: Iranian He's one of the Iran's chief proxies, the Ranas
Speaker 1: behind so much or all in fact of this violence,
Speaker 1: and to take him out was critical.
Speaker 4: Israel is now taking out the enemies.
Speaker 1: This is the only way to bring peace to the
Speaker 1: Middle They've had decades of the Penny Wong two state
Speaker 1: solution blah blah blah, undergraduate stating it doesn't work.
Speaker 3: The two state solution obsessed types can never explain what
Speaker 3: they would actually look like. Are we going to have
Speaker 3: her mass that the majority of the Palestine people are
Speaker 3: backing her mass, are they going to be controlling the
Speaker 3: other state? And how exactly is that going to work
Speaker 3: when her master's number one objection is to destroy Israel.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you can all talk about two state solution
Speaker 3: and this is the ideal path forward, but you actually
Speaker 3: need to spell out some detail, and that's where it
Speaker 3: falls apart and talked about the leftist idiots in the West,
Speaker 3: and that extends sadly to the bulk of the media.
Speaker 3: Ap News disgraced itself again. I just want to show
Speaker 3: you two examples. First one, this is how they described
Speaker 3: a Republican senator dying this is a man who served
Speaker 3: his country died, and he's described as former US Senator
Speaker 3: Jim in Off defense hawk who called human cause climate
Speaker 3: change a hoax, dies at eighty nine. That's the headline.
Speaker 3: But this is how they described a monstrous killer, a
Speaker 3: terror leader, charismatic and shrewd. Look at longtime his Bola leader,
Speaker 3: Hassan Nasra. I mean, this is this is this is
Speaker 3: the same thing they did with Islamic Stately, you must
Speaker 3: can remember what They called him a religious scholar or something.
Speaker 1: And they did it with one of the They did
Speaker 1: it with one of the Hamas characters, the one who
Speaker 1: is blown up in Iran. They said, oh, he's the moderates.
Speaker 1: I think even the Australian media, oh he's the moderate.
Speaker 4: Why are Israel Israel blowing.
Speaker 3: Up the moderate moderate terrorists?
Speaker 4: But that's the Western media reads.
Speaker 1: So let me just read your tweet from a Lebanese person,
Speaker 1: a civilian as a Lebanese is a book called Jonathan
Speaker 1: Elkhari As a Lebanese This is one of the happiest
Speaker 1: days in Lebanon's history, he writes.
Speaker 4: As a Middle Easterner, he says.
Speaker 1: This is one of the most transformative and I think
Speaker 1: that's really key days for the Middle East as a
Speaker 1: human being who holds peace. For my eyes, this is
Speaker 1: the most important day for our region. And we cannot
Speaker 1: reiterate enough Rita that the Penny Wong approach.
Speaker 4: Is wrong, wrong, wrong, and.
Speaker 1: The Israeli approach to solving this problem, finishing this war,
Speaker 1: defeating her mass to ensure that this evil is rooted
Speaker 1: out of the Middle East. And I'll be talking about
Speaker 1: this later in the show. How as the vision that Nettaya,
Speaker 1: who has reader for the Middle East of a prosperous,
Speaker 1: peaceful place linked to the Abraham Accords. Let's hope Trump
Speaker 1: gets back in because we can see a bright future for.
Speaker 3: The Middle East be talked about that, because I think
Speaker 3: that is another critical point. Things are going to be
Speaker 3: very different if it isn't a Trump administration, if we're
Speaker 3: going to have a Harris Wall's administration. Because we've seen
Speaker 3: already her attitude to this issue. I know it causes
Speaker 3: enormous alarm in Israel amongst Nettaya, Who's government and I
Speaker 3: think beyond because they seemed to be obsessed with continuing
Speaker 3: the failed Obama Biden's strategy. It doesn't work. We saw
Speaker 3: in four years, how much could be achieved with Trump,
Speaker 3: with the Abraham Accords, with normalizing relations between Arab nations
Speaker 3: and Israel. And we have gone backwards at such a
Speaker 3: rapid pace, and you hate to think what would happen
Speaker 3: if we did have a Harris Wall's administration in there.
Speaker 3: I think it would be significantly worse than even what
Speaker 3: we saw under Obama than Biden.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I was interested reta to see Stephen Lowe.
Speaker 4: The son of Frank Lowe, coming out. Now.
Speaker 1: This I found particularly interesting because a few years ago
Speaker 1: I spoke in events with the Lowe's and I pointed
Speaker 1: out that the left wing agenda within Australia and the
Speaker 1: States is going back a few years was poisonous to Jews.
Speaker 1: Many in the room disagreed with me, I argued with me.
Speaker 1: So I was pleased to see Stephen Lowey coming out
Speaker 1: and saying that the Greens rhetoric is daggering as they
Speaker 1: mask their real agenda behind climate change, the environment or
Speaker 1: a social conscience, but in fact the moral concerns are
Speaker 1: the Greens. Following the events of October seventh and the atrocities,
Speaker 1: you saw a different response from the Greens with their
Speaker 1: rhetoric contributing, he says, to anti semitism in this country,
Speaker 1: and that's I'm glad to see that the scales are
Speaker 1: falling off. Let's talk a little bit about scales falling
Speaker 1: off or not falling off elsewhere. Rita. You were astonished
Speaker 1: by the response from those who lost the Yes the
Speaker 1: Voice referendum a year ago, next weekend or the weekend after,
Speaker 1: and they're still licking their wounds.
Speaker 4: They're still coming out and pretending.
Speaker 3: That they need denial in denial, completely blind to their
Speaker 3: own faults. An extraordinary, extensive piece in The Australian with
Speaker 3: the Voice architects and chief promoters basically saying they were
Speaker 3: invisible and swept under the table and that's why they lost.
Speaker 1: No, you lost because.
Speaker 3: You were not invisible. You did enormous harm to the
Speaker 3: Yes cause. And I would argue that the biggest, the
Speaker 3: biggest motivators for people voting No were the Yes camp.
Speaker 3: It wasn't necessarily the No arguments that had so much
Speaker 3: cut through. It was listening to the Yes camp. It
Speaker 3: was the fact that they did get an enormous platform,
Speaker 3: most of it uncritical, just allowed to push their divisive
Speaker 3: agenda and Australians did not like it, and almost a
Speaker 3: year later they seemed to be completely in denial about
Speaker 3: what happened. They think there was some sort of a
Speaker 3: you know, people were hoodwinked. We weren't hoodwinked. We saw
Speaker 3: what happened. Your campaign not only had enormous institutional support,
Speaker 3: every corporation, every sporting organization, the celebrity world, the culture.
Speaker 3: Everyone was backing it huge funding that the money that
Speaker 3: ES camp had to push their agenda, the No camp
Speaker 3: could not compete with it. They couldn't even run proper
Speaker 3: campaigns in places like Melbourne and Sydney because ads were
Speaker 3: so expensive. And yet every single state said no. And
Speaker 3: that message isn't being listened to. It seems like they
Speaker 3: are finding all sorts of mad rationalizations for what happened,
Speaker 3: rather than just accepting Australians don't want to be divided
Speaker 3: by race. We don't want to have racial privilege, racial
Speaker 3: division enshrined in our constitution. We don't want it in
Speaker 3: the law, we don't want it anywhere. And I think
Speaker 3: that's again, while we're seeing this, people actually taking a stand,
Speaker 3: and I know we're going to be talking to a
Speaker 3: barrister later about the acknowledgment of countries that are shoved
Speaker 3: down our throats at every meeting, at every event, sometimes
Speaker 3: multiple times, every time a plane lands. Enough. We don't
Speaker 3: want it. It doesn't bring us together, it separates us.
Speaker 3: It's insulting to many Australians and people are finally feeling
Speaker 3: entitled to actually to say what they think rather than
Speaker 3: being chouting to silence.
Speaker 4: Well, you're right, reader. And the Yes campaign lost.
Speaker 1: The turned people away for the simple fact that you
Speaker 1: couldn't move throughout most of the suburbs of Sydney and
Speaker 1: Melbourne without tripping over Yes signs and all the rest
Speaker 1: which ended up in the recycling bins the next day
Speaker 1: after the vote. But the reality was that the Yes
Speaker 1: campaign went all out. This is a great moral thing.
Speaker 1: We're all going to do this all we're gonna have
Speaker 1: treaty and we're gonna have truth telling and we're going
Speaker 1: to and there's all sorts of moral pressure put on people.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, said Marshall Langton. I think it was her.
Speaker 1: If you vote know to this, we're not going to
Speaker 1: do any more. Welcomes to country, but that I'll learn you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's in.
Speaker 4: And people went ekly.
Speaker 1: People went you beauty, Yes, that'll be a no. Then
Speaker 1: you beauty. And now this is why it is so important.
Speaker 1: We'll be talking to Lana Claris, as readA said, and
Speaker 1: a tick. She's the barrister who's brave enough to stand
Speaker 1: up in the workplace at the Victorian Bar and say
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. If we're going to do a welcome our acknowledgment,
Speaker 1: we do it to all Australians. We don't do it
Speaker 1: to just one race or one small group of Australia's
Speaker 1: very brave woman. We need more people who are prepared
Speaker 1: to stand up in the workplace politely, respectfully and say
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We voted no to dividing Australia by race,
Speaker 1: Welcome to country and particularly acknowledgment of country. Both those
Speaker 1: things divide us further and further by race. They're just
Speaker 1: doing the voice by stealth, and it's up to the
Speaker 1: citizenry to stand up and say I'm sorry, we voted
Speaker 1: against this, so we won't be participating in this particular event.
Speaker 1: And it's critical at corporate Australia gets behind recognizing the
Speaker 1: harm they did by jumping on to it. As Rita said,
Speaker 1: turning away, customers, and more importantly, the Coalition has to
Speaker 1: go to the next election with a very clear policy
Speaker 1: to reduce welcome to countries, reduced acknowledgment to country and
Speaker 1: reduce the use of the Aboriginal flag other than on critical, important,
Speaker 1: proper ceremonious occasions, not this ubiquitous. Whenever we happen to
Speaker 1: see anything we're going to, you are welcome to.
Speaker 3: Well, anytime you see any member of the Labor government
Speaker 3: these days speaking where they're in their offices, it's not
Speaker 3: the Australian flag behind them, it's the Australian flag plus
Speaker 3: two other flags. Now we are one country exactly. The
Speaker 3: Australian flag represents every Australian, whether you were born here,
Speaker 3: whether you're migrant, whether you have ancestry that is indigenous.
Speaker 3: It represents every single person. And I think this identity
Speaker 3: politics is so poisonous. Australians rejected it and the government
Speaker 3: needs to listen to that rejection. They cannot continue to
Speaker 3: ignore it, and both state and the federal government have
Speaker 3: ignored it. We've got so much. We've got states doing
Speaker 3: treaties on the.
Speaker 1: Right and we've got the new South Wales government talking
Speaker 1: about doing some kind of exploration. They're spending millions of
Speaker 1: gods going around to explore treaties or as we said no,
Speaker 1: the Australian people said no. And if our politicians don't
Speaker 1: understand this, they've got to learn the hard way. They've
Speaker 1: got to learn at.
Speaker 4: The ballot box out if they carry on.
Speaker 3: Their response, that can only come if the coalition give
Speaker 3: them a choice and tell you. In Victoria at the
Speaker 3: last state election, the hapless Victorian Libs they were for treaty.
Speaker 3: So the Victorians had no choice if you were cared
Speaker 3: about this issue. But on every other significant issue the
Speaker 3: Victorian Libs were also pretty much on board with labor.
Speaker 3: I think people look at a place like Victorian wonder
Speaker 3: how it could get so bad. How can you have
Speaker 3: such an enormous state dead, how can you have a
Speaker 3: state that seems so broken. Well, when people don't have
Speaker 3: a choice, that's what happens. You have to give them
Speaker 3: the choice.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: The dangerous side reader of this whole thing, of course,
Speaker 1: as you touched on, is that the left are pushing
Speaker 1: the fact that the referendum Voice referendum was lost on misinformation,
Speaker 1: and therefore you have a combating misinformation and Disinformation Bill
Speaker 1: being pushed through Parliament. There was a big rally yesterday
Speaker 1: in Sydney against the Misinformation and Disinformation Bill and the
Speaker 1: Coalition has to come out and not only oppose it,
Speaker 1: which they've now said, they will oppose it finally, which
Speaker 1: is good. Same strategy as the Voice way. It could
Speaker 1: have come in sooner, but they didn't. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: they did when they did. But they've got to go further,
Speaker 1: much much further than just saying we oppose it.
Speaker 4: They have to promise that it will not happen, that
Speaker 4: they will repeal it if they get into.
Speaker 1: Governments, which I believe they will, and if they don't
Speaker 1: have the Senate then it's very simple. All they have
Speaker 1: to do is fire the mob ad Akma, stick in
Speaker 1: a bunch of people who believe in free speech in
Speaker 1: those roles instead, and then guarantee that no government bureaucrat
Speaker 1: ever tells the Australian people what is the truth and
Speaker 1: what isn't the truth. That is up to the Australian
Speaker 1: people to decide what is the truth, not some bureaucrats
Speaker 1: sitting in Canberra eating a kal muffin telling us what
Speaker 1: is or what isn't the truth.
Speaker 3: And you know with those bureaucrats that have proved over
Speaker 3: and over again, and you even know with the so
Speaker 3: called fact checking units at universities or segments of the media,
Speaker 3: it is just activists who are mass grating as FactCheck
Speaker 3: fact checkers. So what they see as harmful, what they
Speaker 3: see as unhelpful to their left as cause, is disinformation, misinformation.
Speaker 3: We saw that throughout COVID. We saw it with the
Speaker 3: Voice where when you actually talked about the existence of
Speaker 3: the full ulary statement from the heart and what it contained,
Speaker 3: that was somehow disinformation. Inconvenient facts are disinformation to the left.
Speaker 3: So this is orwelly and it is so dangerous and
Speaker 3: thank god the Coalition have come out against it. If
Speaker 3: it does become law, then it has to be something
Speaker 3: that the that's on the ballot box when you when
Speaker 3: you're casting your vote, you're voting for free speech or
Speaker 3: this or well in mess that.
Speaker 1: We had another example this week, and it's not and
Speaker 1: misinformation disinformation. There's no such thing as truth, and there's lies,
Speaker 1: there's truth, and there's propaganda. That's it and the truth.
Speaker 1: You may not recognize the truth at the time when
Speaker 1: it is the truth. I'll give you just an example
Speaker 1: from week, but during COVID we talked about hydroxychloric when
Speaker 1: there are those myself included, who said, hey, maybe this
Speaker 1: is a good prophylactic against COVID. That was right at
Speaker 1: the beginning, we were told repeatedly that was medical misinformation.
Speaker 1: Michelle Rowlands, who was in fact the Communications Minister pushing
Speaker 1: the Combating Misinformation Bill, I'll go into this in clown show,
Speaker 1: but she was one who labeled that particular argument medical misinformation.
Speaker 1: Only last week there was a paper in the Medical
Speaker 1: Paper which came out and said the complete opposite, that
Speaker 1: in fact basically supported that argument.
Speaker 4: So arguments change and develop over time.
Speaker 1: You cannot have snotty nose canber bureaucrats telling you, the
Speaker 1: people of Australia what is and what isn't the truth.
Speaker 4: Now we're going to go to a short break. But
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Speaker 3: You're watching a very special edition of Outsiders with your
Speaker 3: hosts Rowan Dean No James Morrow. What the trio is
Speaker 3: a truesome just for today to worry. Coming up in
Speaker 3: just a few minutes, we'll be talking to a barrister
Speaker 3: who made headlines for saying enough enough of the incessant
Speaker 3: of an incoherent acknowledgment of country announcements before every meeting
Speaker 3: and event. But first, you may not feel like it
Speaker 3: when you're in Australia with labor governments in power across
Speaker 3: the mainland. But elsewhere in the world, from Europe to
Speaker 3: South America, the right is rising and we are seeing
Speaker 3: a new breed of leader emerge. These leaders are an
Speaker 3: antidote to the lily livid identity politics of sess virtue
Speaker 3: signaling socialist types the media doors you know, the likes
Speaker 3: of Justin Trudeau and Jasinda Dern. This new breed of
Speaker 3: right wing leaders are conviction politicians who unashamedly pursue an
Speaker 3: agenda that seize them, maligned by their establishment, but despite
Speaker 3: the hysteria and doomsday predictions, they have proved to be
Speaker 3: enormously effective and popular. This week we saw Argentina's Java Mila,
Speaker 3: who media outlets have described as far right ultra conservative
Speaker 3: and the Argentinian Trump if that's a bad thing, and
Speaker 3: El Salvador's Nave Bucala, variously described as far right and authoritarian,
Speaker 3: give five brand speeches at the seventy ninth United Nations
Speaker 3: General Assembly. El Salvador's wildly popular president, who was re
Speaker 3: elected earlier this year with more than eighty percent of
Speaker 3: the vote, address the UN with some pointed remarks for
Speaker 3: the Biden administration about regimes that prosecute and seek to
Speaker 3: imprison their political opponents. President Bucalai, who has copped heavy
Speaker 3: criticism from the Western media for his hardline approach to
Speaker 3: crime reduction, was unapologetic about the policies that have seen
Speaker 3: a dramatic drop in the country's homicide rate. He said
Speaker 3: in Ol Salvador, the safety of law abiding citizens is
Speaker 3: a higher priority than the comfort of criminals. He said,
Speaker 3: Some say that we have imprisoned thousands, but the reality
Speaker 3: is that we have freed millions in a single year.
Speaker 3: The measures he employed saw the homicide rate for seventy percent.
Speaker 3: El Salvador has gone from being one of the most
Speaker 3: dangerous places on earth to be one of the safest countries.
Speaker 3: Argentina's President Haavi Milay, who has achieved remarkable results in
Speaker 3: a short period of time, also addressed the UN and
Speaker 3: slammed the organization for going from one that pursued peace
Speaker 3: to an organization that imposes an ideological agenda on its members.
Speaker 3: Referring to the UN's support of covid era lockdowns, they
Speaker 3: said it was guilty of being one of the most
Speaker 3: main proponents of systematic violations of freedom. He also slammed
Speaker 3: the UN for allowing despot nations to sit on its
Speaker 3: Human Rights Council and lecture democracies like Israel. Millay had
Speaker 3: this to say about the collectivism and neo Marxist agenda
Speaker 3: of the UN. He said, I'd like to issue a
Speaker 3: warning here. We are coming to the end of a
Speaker 3: cycle collectivism, moral posturing, and the woke agenda is coming
Speaker 3: up against reality. Also in New York this week was
Speaker 3: it Italy is a Georgia Maloney who you'll remember the
Speaker 3: Australian media labeled a fascist, extremist and far right. She
Speaker 3: also spoke at the UN and while in New York,
Speaker 3: she received the prestigious Global Citizens Award from the Atlanta
Speaker 3: Anti Council. Far from being the destructive force with a warn,
Speaker 3: she's actually been enormously successful so far. She has tackled
Speaker 3: the illegal immigration crisis in a country, and her tough
Speaker 3: approach has seen a sixty four percent drop in the
Speaker 3: country's illegal immigration numbers. She's been so successful that Britain's
Speaker 3: hard left labor Prime Minister Kis Darma went to Rome
Speaker 3: earlier this month to see how she does it. Let's
Speaker 3: listen to a little of what Maloney had to say
Speaker 3: this week upon receiving her prestigious honor. She spoke of
Speaker 3: Western civilization and why it's more important than ever to
Speaker 3: protect its values.
Speaker 7: I know that we should not be ashamed to use
Speaker 7: and defend wars and concepts like nation and patriotism. The
Speaker 7: West is more than a physical place by the world.
Speaker 7: The West. We do not simply define countries by specific
Speaker 7: geographical location, but as a civilization built over the centuries
Speaker 7: with the genius and sacrifices of many, The West is
Speaker 7: a system of values in which the person is central.
Speaker 7: Men and women are equal and free, and therefore the
Speaker 7: systems are democratic. Life is sacred, the state is secular
Speaker 7: and based on the rule of law. I ask and
Speaker 7: wonder to myself and to you, are these values of
Speaker 7: which we should be ashamed of?
Speaker 3: No, we shouldn't be ashamed, But that is what is
Speaker 3: happening throughout the West. The left assault is coming from within,
Speaker 3: seeking to demonize Western civilization.
Speaker 7: But to the authoritarian funds, let me say very clearly
Speaker 7: that we will stay and for our favlures.
Speaker 1: We will do that.
Speaker 7: Our freedom and our values and.
Speaker 3: The pride we feel for them are.
Speaker 7: The weapons our adversaries fear the most. So we can't
Speaker 7: give up the strength of our own identity. That would
Speaker 7: be the best gift we can make authoritarian regimes. So
Speaker 7: at the at the end of the day, patriotism is
Speaker 7: the best response to declinism.
Speaker 3: Here. Here, patriotism is the best response, but it's maligned
Speaker 3: in the media, in the culture, and certainly in academia.
Speaker 3: Standing up for Western values in your country instead of
Speaker 3: being endlessly ashamed of it, is the way forward. We
Speaker 3: are in an ideological war. Western civilization is under threat,
Speaker 3: and finally we have some leaders who recognize the fight
Speaker 3: and are on our side.
Speaker 4: Fantastic thanks Rita, She's absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1: Georgie Maloney now joining us to someone equally amazing, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, Barrister Lana Kolaris.
Speaker 4: From the Victorian Bar. She's up here in Sydney in
Speaker 4: the studio.
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to have her Whitheruslana was recently denounced, wait
Speaker 1: for it, as a racist because she chose not to
Speaker 1: do the Welcome to country at the meeting of the
Speaker 1: Victorian Bar Council. Lana elected to instead acknowledge, as I
Speaker 1: was saying earlier, all Australians. She is now doubling down
Speaker 1: on her criticism of those welcome to and knowledgement ceremonies.
Speaker 4: Lana, great, welcome to outside. It's great to have you here.
Speaker 4: Thanks for coming up to Sydney now.
Speaker 1: Incredible bravery you showed. I mean you would think you
Speaker 1: could speak your mind freely in Australia, but particularly you
Speaker 1: spoke up against what you saw as something you didn't
Speaker 1: want to participate in. Tell us about that day and
Speaker 1: arriving at that decision, and then also tell us what
Speaker 1: it's been sense.
Speaker 8: Yes, well, thank you so much for having me here,
Speaker 8: Rowan and Rita. The reason why I decided to acknowledge
Speaker 8: all Australians that day is because I'd had enough of
Speaker 8: this implicit seeding of sovereignty before every meeting, before every
Speaker 8: zoom meeting, every time we land on a conscious flight,
Speaker 8: and I'd had enough, and I just wanted to make
Speaker 8: a stand against it and exercise my right to free
Speaker 8: speech to do so.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you mentioned sovereignty because that, for me
Speaker 1: is the key issue. And you're a lawyer. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know what area of lawyer you specialize in, but
Speaker 1: you've pinpointed the very problem for me every time we
Speaker 1: are doing a welcome to country or an acknowledgment of country.
Speaker 1: Implicit in that is the idea that sovereignty as it
Speaker 1: exists in the law doesn't exist, that it's a fraud,
Speaker 1: and that sovereignty quote was never seeded and it always
Speaker 1: was and always will be some other form of Is
Speaker 1: that what bothers you the most?
Speaker 8: That's exactly what bothers me. It's the constant repetition of
Speaker 8: this message that is being given to us that sovereignty
Speaker 8: does not exist within the crown in some way, and
Speaker 8: that's what I've got an issue with. It's wrong in
Speaker 8: law and it's wrong in fact as well, and that's
Speaker 8: why I decided to make a stand, and I posted
Speaker 8: the minutes on social media, and I got a fairly
Speaker 8: predictable personal attack leveled towards me, and that's what made
Speaker 8: me think, you know, I'm going to sit down and
Speaker 8: I'm going to express my views clearly in writing. And
Speaker 8: that's what I did.
Speaker 3: Excellent. And how does this philosophy, because it is very
Speaker 3: prevalent within the legal fraternity, and that worries me greatly
Speaker 3: because you see it on the bench, you see it elsewhere.
Speaker 3: How does it impact the law? Because you talked about
Speaker 3: hearing about a client who was feeling like the justice
Speaker 3: system wasn't what he expected it to be because of
Speaker 3: these manipulations or these undermining of what we expect to
Speaker 3: be the law for everyone. Unquestionably, like whoever you are,
Speaker 3: you are judged the same, regardless of who you are
Speaker 3: and what your background is.
Speaker 8: That's right. The fundamental guiding principle of our constitution today
Speaker 8: is a quality of citizenship. And if you're going to
Speaker 8: take a stand it's different to that by making these
Speaker 8: repeated acknowledgments of country, which repeatedly chip away at that sovereignty.
Speaker 8: Then I think Australians have an instinct and they know
Speaker 8: that something is not quite right, and they understand that
Speaker 8: there is a political push behind this. And when you're
Speaker 8: in a situation where courts are actually acknowledging country and
Speaker 8: do not acknowledge the Crown, I think people understand that
Speaker 8: there's some kind of political infiltration there. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 8: what makes people Perhaps it's contributing to the lack of
Speaker 8: the loss of confidence that people are having in the
Speaker 8: legal system.
Speaker 3: That certainly is this lack of trust in our institutions,
Speaker 3: increasingly including the justice system in general. This view is
Speaker 3: very much amongst the elite, as we call it. But
Speaker 3: if you speak to the average Australians, I would bet
Speaker 3: money on this or the overwhelming majority are sick of this.
Speaker 3: They don't see a place for it, they see it
Speaker 3: as divisive. But they're the ones who are least likely
Speaker 3: to speak up because they fear the backlash. They don't
Speaker 3: have much power. But amongst the elite, we were talking
Speaker 3: the legal fraternity, academia, media, these views are very popular.
Speaker 3: So how do we address that, How do we have
Speaker 3: that silent majority other than through that referendum we had
Speaker 3: last year that they've forgotten about. How do we actually
Speaker 3: have their voices and their point of view knowledged.
Speaker 8: Well, look, I can tell you from my experience that
Speaker 8: I have not received that much backlash since I actually
Speaker 8: came out and wrote my opinion piece. Yes, there are
Speaker 8: the predictable characters who continue to make vile personal attacks
Speaker 8: against me, but overwhelmingly the response has been positive. And
Speaker 8: so I mean, I would say to people, don't be
Speaker 8: afraid exercise your freedom of speech. We have it, so
Speaker 8: exercise it. We know that the majority of Australians are
Speaker 8: with us on this. We've had a referendum, the facts
Speaker 8: are in. People want an Australia where we are all equal,
Speaker 8: regardless of our race. So yes, I would say, please
Speaker 8: speak up and speak your mind.
Speaker 1: And I think that's true. And I think you're a
Speaker 1: great role model for that, Lana, because people the immediate
Speaker 1: accusation against you, and there was a similar accusation by
Speaker 1: I think a High Court judge during the referendum against
Speaker 1: another legal person who was arguing against the boys. Oh
Speaker 1: you're a racist. First thing is straight out you're a racist. No,
Speaker 1: actually engaging with the argument, So you have to overcome that.
Speaker 1: That's hurtful and not pleasant.
Speaker 9: Correct.
Speaker 1: So your advice, so you know, what can people do
Speaker 1: in the workplace or the board meeting or the local
Speaker 1: council meeting or whatever.
Speaker 4: Then class.
Speaker 1: We learned this week in fact, have a listen to this.
Speaker 1: This is hilarious line I have a listened to this.
Speaker 1: This is on Sydney Radio, ben Fordham this week. Just
Speaker 1: have a quick listen.
Speaker 10: We don't need to welcome at the start of a
Speaker 10: zoom meeting and having a welcome to country at a
Speaker 10: Polarates class, well that's just bizarre. So he listen here.
Speaker 10: This is Lauren Barry. She's talking to Marty shear Gold
Speaker 10: in Melbourne on the Marty shear Gold Show.
Speaker 4: Does anyone else think they're welcome to country is overdone?
Speaker 1: I forgot you guys, won't for me now?
Speaker 11: I do find it sometimes in all of my polarates classes.
Speaker 9: What and I do kidding sometimes I find.
Speaker 2: That a little bit every Polarates class.
Speaker 6: That's a lot.
Speaker 11: Really yeah, and I'm all for the welcome to country.
Speaker 4: We do a welcome to country for the community, and I.
Speaker 3: Think that that is I think that's a beautiful.
Speaker 1: Thing because we travel Australia. So, Lana, what you've done,
Speaker 1: You've helped start an actually national conversation about this long
Speaker 1: overdue where people are really tapping into this idea. Is
Speaker 1: it appropriate? Have we overdone it? What does it actually mean?
Speaker 1: Is there not a better thing?
Speaker 4: What does it achieve?
Speaker 1: Is there something better we could be doing with that time?
Speaker 1: And it's now reached the point where people are laughing
Speaker 1: at it, polarates class laughing at it. So you've managed
Speaker 1: to keep good humor through all of this. Is that
Speaker 1: the best approach? Yes?
Speaker 8: Look, I think when Australians are starting to realize more
Speaker 8: and more that when people level and attack at you
Speaker 8: as such as you're a racist, that it means that
Speaker 8: they have no substance to their argument. They've almost essentially
Speaker 8: lost the eye as soon as they make that credit
Speaker 8: attack because they're not addressing the underlying issue. And so
Speaker 8: I think that people are becoming more alive to that.
Speaker 8: So I just ignore it because I know I'm not.
Speaker 1: A racist, And just quickly before we finish up, what's
Speaker 1: happening now at the bar? Are they going to look
Speaker 1: at it. Are they going to look at your idea
Speaker 1: of welcoming everybody?
Speaker 8: I doubt it. I think the President Georgina Schoff, from
Speaker 8: my read of her response to my article, made it
Speaker 8: clear that she's going to continue with the acknowledgment of country.
Speaker 1: So we need you to run for the president. There
Speaker 1: you go, there you go, and all your victorians out.
Speaker 1: They need to vote for Lana Kalaris. That's what we
Speaker 1: need to see.
Speaker 4: But well done Lina for being brave.
Speaker 1: You're a role model, as I said, to so many
Speaker 1: people who do feel this, but they need the tools
Speaker 1: to get up and have the courage to say well then,
Speaker 1: thanks so much Lana Klaris for coming on Outsiders. After
Speaker 1: the break, we'll speak to the director of a film
Speaker 1: and exposes all the lefts climb out alive as well
Speaker 1: as you know exciting news. Outsiders will be appearing at
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four Seapack Conference, that's the Conservative Political
Speaker 1: Action Conference at the Soft Hotel in Brisbane next weekend
Speaker 1: October fifth and sixth. We'll be hosting this show Rita myself.
Speaker 1: Shall we get James Long? Yeah, We'll get James Lo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: We'll get James Long. As well live from the event.
Speaker 1: It's going to be fantastic. Can't wait to see you
Speaker 1: there and make sure if you haven't got your tickets yet,
Speaker 1: go to www dot cpaccpac dot network get those tickets.
Speaker 1: Will also be taking questions from members of the audience,
Speaker 1: So if you're attending Seapack and we'll be coming to
Speaker 1: our show, which will be eight to ten am Queen's
Speaker 1: Line at the time, we'll get your questions there.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Someone who will be at Seapack and launching his film
Speaker 1: is Joel Gilbert, filmmaker who has got his film The Climates.
Speaker 1: Brilliant film. I've seen it, The Climate according to al Gore. Joel,
Speaker 1: great to see you. I saw your film at a
Speaker 1: sneak preview with John Ruddock the other day. Terrific, terrific
Speaker 1: work you've done there on basically skewing the nonsense of
Speaker 1: al Gore over decades and decades. You're going to be
Speaker 1: launching the film at Seapack, so just tell us a
Speaker 1: little bit about what we can expect. Joel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I made this film.
Speaker 12: It's actually called The Climate according to Ai al Gore.
Speaker 12: I used to work for al Gore when I was
Speaker 12: an intern when he was a centator from Tennessee, and
Speaker 12: I actually emailed him and said, I'd like to interview
Speaker 12: you about your climate science. You didn't respond, So I said, well,
Speaker 12: what if I could recreate al Gore using AI technology?
Speaker 12: And so we actually have a video and audio of
Speaker 12: al Gore that I interview in the movie.
Speaker 6: It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: It is a lot of fun. I've seen it, Joel.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And you go through many of the things he said
Speaker 1: in the past, the contradictions, you expose them, You expose
Speaker 1: the astonishing store of how he kind of shifted from
Speaker 1: politics into First of all, he had his attempt with
Speaker 1: Tip of Gore to be the great censor of all
Speaker 1: rock and roll. When that didn't work, he stumbled across
Speaker 1: climate change and the fascinating Joel tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit about that relationship that he kind of had with
Speaker 1: the professor from his university that he always cites.
Speaker 4: Tell us that story.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I went back and looked that since Harvard professor
Speaker 12: Roger Ravel he had at Harvard University, and when al
Speaker 12: Gore came on the scene and produced a book called
Speaker 12: Earth in the Balance nineteen ninety two, was kind of
Speaker 12: an environmental manifesto, saying that mankind has to reorganize itself
Speaker 12: with central planning to adopt all these carbon policies because
Speaker 12: the Earth will end, you know, in five or ten
Speaker 12: years if we don't do what he says. So I
Speaker 12: went back to the archives of Roger Ravel, and I
Speaker 12: found that Roger Ravel, his professor, did not agree with
Speaker 12: anything Gore said about the climate roderivel He just took measurements.
Speaker 12: Rogerveil took measurements and asked questions, and then Gore came
Speaker 12: along and politicized his work, claiming the whole premise of
Speaker 12: climate sciences, there's too much carbon in the atmosphere and
Speaker 12: we're all going to die if we don't cut the
Speaker 12: amount of carbon. Well, I did more research and I
Speaker 12: found well, since I realized his information did not come
Speaker 12: from the Harvard professor, where did it come from? And
Speaker 12: I found that Gore went to Divinity School with these
Speaker 12: radical environmental professors in nineteen seventy one, and he was
Speaker 12: forced to read as part of the curriculum this book
Speaker 12: called Our Plundered Planet. From the nineteen forties. The theory
Speaker 12: was the Earth is pristine, it's perfect, and mankind is
Speaker 12: ruining the Earth by cutting down forests and using fossil fuels,
Speaker 12: and we're all going to die. So I found that
Speaker 12: Gore actually plagiarized this book to write Earth in the Balance.
Speaker 12: But instead of saying that he got his climate science
Speaker 12: from his wacky ban divinity school professors and from this book,
Speaker 12: we tried to mainstream the science by claiming it came
Speaker 12: out of this Harvard professor. So this blows the lid
Speaker 12: off of all the climate movement. Because we find out
Speaker 12: carbon is only one third of one percent of gas
Speaker 12: in the atmosphere. You could double or triple it and
Speaker 12: it would all be absorbed by plants. It's plant food.
Speaker 12: Plants will grow taller, there'll be green deserts. We need
Speaker 12: more carbon, not less. So I think it destroys the
Speaker 12: entire climate science political movement and all the billions and
Speaker 12: trillions of dollars that governments are spending on it. And
Speaker 12: that's why we're coming to Australia to do a screening
Speaker 12: tour because climate politics is so extreme in Australia. We're
Speaker 12: going to be in Brisbane, also in Sydney at the
Speaker 12: Theodorett of the New South Wales Parliament in Melbourne and
Speaker 12: also at the Parliament House in Canberra. We're screening this
Speaker 12: film and I'm going to be talking with John Ruddick
Speaker 12: about the real climate science that I've exposed in this film.
Speaker 3: Well, good luck getting our climate change Minister Chris Bowen
Speaker 3: along to a screening. You'll probably having sort of a
Speaker 3: meltdown once he knows you're going to be there. But
Speaker 3: this climate activism has made our Gore very rich. Is
Speaker 3: one awards is one awards for his movie, and there
Speaker 3: seems to be really not much accountability for all these
Speaker 3: catastrophes doomsday predictions that he made on film that haven't eventuated.
Speaker 3: Why isn't he a figure of universal mockery for this
Speaker 3: craziness that he said was going to happen.
Speaker 12: Well, he is the godfather of the claimant movement, and
Speaker 12: that's why I went back and looked at his history
Speaker 12: and I knew him personally because I worked with him,
Speaker 12: and Al Gore was not that smart of a guy.
Speaker 4: He kind of was.
Speaker 12: He was told and raised by his parents to become
Speaker 12: president one day. The problem is he didn't have a
Speaker 12: personality for politics and didn't have any care arristhma, so
Speaker 12: he felt he needed issues to gain popularity so he
Speaker 12: could be elected president. He started out when I worked
Speaker 12: with him, he was into arms control. He made himself
Speaker 12: an arms control expert. When Regan won the Cold War
Speaker 12: and that issue was over, he adopted environmentalism and came
Speaker 12: up with this radical theory of an apocalypse that if
Speaker 12: you don't do what he says, we're all going to
Speaker 12: die in five or ten years. That was nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 12: Of course, the whole global warming thing. Of course it
Speaker 12: started as global warming, remember, but the Earth kept getting colder,
Speaker 12: so in about two thousand and eight change it's climate change,
Speaker 12: so that any normal seasonal weather they could say, oh,
Speaker 12: well that's climate change. So no, they have not held
Speaker 12: out Gore accountable for all this malfeasance. And I expose
Speaker 12: the very core of the idea of the climate movement
Speaker 12: is we have to reduce carbon. Well, it turns out
Speaker 12: carbon does not affect the weather. The weather and temperatures
Speaker 12: are affected by the tilt of the earth, sunspot, the oceans, volcanoes.
Speaker 12: We need more carbon and not less, and that's what
Speaker 12: you learn about in this film.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. Joel Gilbert can't wait to see the film can't
Speaker 1: wait to see you there at Seapack, and let's get
Speaker 1: lots of people to Canra to go and see the
Speaker 1: film because that's where it's needed. Most fantastic, Thanks so much,
Speaker 1: Joel Gilbert.
Speaker 4: And yes, that will be at Seapack next week.
Speaker 1: We'll see you there. We'll be there, Rita James and
Speaker 1: I now speaking of all things climates, Rita, I was
Speaker 1: fascinated to see that. Finally. I never thought it would happen.
Speaker 4: The characters who threw the soup over the.
Speaker 1: Van Goth painting have gone to jail for a couple
Speaker 1: of years, and the judge was.
Speaker 4: Not impressed that they were saving the planet. Was not impressed.
Speaker 3: And this wasn't their first bit of activism. Let's be clear.
Speaker 3: So these are extremists, and that's what they are. They're
Speaker 3: climate cultists. They think the world's going to end. They
Speaker 3: and what they are pushing, if they actually were successful,
Speaker 3: would plunge us into darkness, literal darkness and worse, would
Speaker 3: completely decimate our living standards. And it's insanity. And it's
Speaker 3: good to see that. It's going to be a little
Speaker 3: bit of a counter accountability for the lawlessness we've seen.
Speaker 3: But another couple of crazies have decided, well, we're going
Speaker 3: to honor their sacrifice going to prison by throwing more
Speaker 3: was it soup?
Speaker 4: What have they thought?
Speaker 1: Another? They found another van go painting, and they went
Speaker 1: and through their soup all over there worry people in
Speaker 1: prison de.
Speaker 9: Marg an energy oiling God, something which is now a
Speaker 9: government policy after sustained.
Speaker 1: It's talked about friends, colorless.
Speaker 9: Headlines and the result in political pressure future generations from
Speaker 9: regard these prisoners are conscience to be on.
Speaker 13: The right side of history.
Speaker 1: Now reta, these people are idiots, basically, that's one of
Speaker 1: the ones who was arrested released a statement. They're idiots,
Speaker 1: but they're they're gullible fools. But I blame as I
Speaker 1: always do, the teachers and the politicians who have allowed
Speaker 1: kids to grow.
Speaker 4: Up believing this garbage, and the parents.
Speaker 1: This girl, Phoebe, one of the ones who's off to
Speaker 1: prison for two years, says, my choice today is who
Speaker 1: accept whatever sentences I received with a smile, knowing that
Speaker 1: I've found peace in doing what I can to prevent
Speaker 1: wait for it, countless millions of innocent.
Speaker 4: People suffering and die.
Speaker 1: So what Joel Gilbert was just saying there about the
Speaker 1: climate change doomsday cult. This is the victims of that cult,
Speaker 1: Innocent kids, young girls who bought into this garbage.
Speaker 4: It's as bad and as dangerous as.
Speaker 1: Any religious cult. These people are throwing away their lives.
Speaker 1: They're comparing themselves to Gandy and Mandela and Pincursed and
Speaker 1: so on. They are fools, they are stupid, and they
Speaker 1: are simply as you said, Rita, if we listen to them,
Speaker 1: the world would be plunged into a very dark place.
Speaker 3: Indeed, it is religious zelotry, that's what it is. And
Speaker 3: when you actually hear them talk, it is like they're brainwashed.
Speaker 3: They're in a cult that are completely divorced from reality.
Speaker 3: And the sad thing is that we have governments across
Speaker 3: the world spooked by this craziness and setting policies to
Speaker 3: try to appease precisely these characters. And you saw when
Speaker 3: that latest vision of that artwork being attacked, the cries
Speaker 3: from the people there to disgust. And at some point
Speaker 3: someone's going to take matters into their own hands. I'm
Speaker 3: not advocating for this, but you saw people yelling at them.
Speaker 3: The next one might tackle one of those people to
Speaker 3: stop them trying to damage artwork, and we are going
Speaker 3: to see something happen that we don't want to see
Speaker 3: happen because people are sick of this lawlessness. They're sick
Speaker 3: of these cultures who feel entitled to do whatever they
Speaker 3: feel because they've been led to believe that they're saving millions,
Speaker 3: that there's some sort of martyrs.
Speaker 4: Well, it's not only being spooked to you, Rita.
Speaker 1: You say that governments are spooked by it, but governments
Speaker 1: are pushing this agenda. I'll be going into this in
Speaker 1: a second. But Penny Wong, you know at the United
Speaker 1: Nations started banging on about rising sea levels into Vaalu
Speaker 1: and all this nonsense.
Speaker 4: I'm in a complete farce.
Speaker 1: How stupid, how this undergraduate mindset has infused our politicians
Speaker 1: to such an extent that they are, as you say,
Speaker 1: setting policy along these lines while we're talking about the
Speaker 1: stupidity of the Albanesi government and endless topic one which
Speaker 1: we could go on about for hours and hours. And
Speaker 1: in fact, we do negative gearing reta negative gearing. Albo
Speaker 1: Albou decided he wasn't going to do negative gearing, but
Speaker 1: he was or something rather than Jim Chalmers was modeling
Speaker 1: negative gearing.
Speaker 4: What seriously, this funcship got to go.
Speaker 1: We've got to get rid of them.
Speaker 3: These Well, this was a very interesting week. It was
Speaker 3: a rough week for the Albanezy government because this issue
Speaker 3: was the dominant issue domestically and they were completely at
Speaker 3: a loss. One minute, they're saying there's no changes being proposed,
Speaker 3: these are modeling. Then these considerations the Treasury have come
Speaker 3: up with, we're not considering them. But then we find
Speaker 3: out from Jim Chalmers that he tasked Treasury to look
Speaker 3: at scaling back the treasury that by themselves and just
Speaker 3: have fun with these model and it is just so
Speaker 3: mindlessly stupid. We know labor is being waged on this
Speaker 3: issue of housing by the Greens who are completely mad.
Speaker 3: What they're proposing would see the industry, Well, the industry
Speaker 3: is already under pressure. We need a lot more housing.
Speaker 3: We've got people coming in here at record numbers and
Speaker 3: demand is greater than supply. That's just the reality. The
Speaker 3: housing sector isn't producing as many new homes as it
Speaker 3: needs to to meet that demand. And there's a lot
Speaker 3: of red tape, green tape, black tape that's frustrating that
Speaker 3: and what's being talked about now would drive investors out
Speaker 3: of that market, Mom and dad, investors who look at
Speaker 3: buying an investment property to have a little bit of
Speaker 3: a financial security, perhaps be self funded in retirement. And
Speaker 3: you drive those people out of the market, it is
Speaker 3: going to be disastrous. It's going to be disastrous, particularly
Speaker 3: for renters, because the rental pool would diminish, prices go up.
Speaker 3: We're already seeing that in Victoria because the land tax
Speaker 3: down there. They're the new laws they've brought in that
Speaker 3: really tip the ledger in favor of renters when it
Speaker 3: comes to a bunch of stuff. But in the long run,
Speaker 3: it's the renters who suffer because the rental market in
Speaker 3: in Victoria has just gone bersive.
Speaker 1: Well absolutely, I also feel sorry for that suburban Melbourne
Speaker 1: that's going to end up with a Dan Andrews statue
Speaker 1: smack bang in the little local park or wherever it is.
Speaker 1: Fat'll drive down property prices pretty quick. If you want
Speaker 1: a good laugh, look at all the memes on what
Speaker 1: the Dan Andrews' statue could look like. Love to show
Speaker 1: them to you, but we can't. There you go. After
Speaker 1: the break, We're going to look at Nettunyahoo's incredible speech
Speaker 1: at the end this week in a tick here on Outsiders. Hello,
Speaker 1: you're watching Outsiders with Rita Panahee and myself Rowan Dean.
Speaker 1: I want to talk this morning about three women, Three
Speaker 1: women whose stupidity is, in my humble opinion, dangerous, even deadly. First,
Speaker 1: there's a young woman who rose to prominence some years
Speaker 1: ago and was fated around the world by princes and popes,
Speaker 1: prime ministers, politicians and pop stars as the conscience of youth,
Speaker 1: the pin up girl of a generation of teal tinged
Speaker 1: teenage prima honors, and the voice of a caring and
Speaker 1: compassionate young generation that the rest of the world, in
Speaker 1: particular the pay stale and male generation of older conservative
Speaker 1: leaders weirdly chose.
Speaker 4: To prostrate themselves before.
Speaker 1: Yes, Greta Thunburg, the scolding queen of climate change alarmism,
Speaker 1: with her medieval morality of how dare you puritanical preaching?
Speaker 4: Where is she now?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 4: Here she was last week?
Speaker 1: Now donning the garb of the most fundamental and intolerant
Speaker 1: of all causes, as she dangerously, deceitfully and disingenuously links
Speaker 1: her climate activism with good old fashioned anti Israel hatreds.
Speaker 5: Ending Israel's genocide in Gaza and Israeli apartheid is a
Speaker 5: climate justice issue. Israel is destroying palestin in lives, but
Speaker 5: also destroying Palestine in lands and resources through its work
Speaker 5: there and industries that pollute and destroy the environment.
Speaker 6: We can't stand by and do nothing.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's Greta today, as mad, bad and dangerous as
Speaker 1: a cut snake. Her words have the effect, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: of fomenting anti Semitism and hatred of Jews in the
Speaker 1: name of climate change, the nadea of fatuous undergraduate socialist
Speaker 1: ideology of the sort that infuses our schools, our universities,
Speaker 1: our media and our left wing politics. But Greta is
Speaker 1: not alone. Have a listen to where this undergraduate socialist
Speaker 1: dogma leads you. Here was a woman on the BBC's
Speaker 1: Question Time the other evening bit fed up and sick
Speaker 1: to death of hair in this Israel's right to defend itself.
Speaker 1: What Israel is doing is barbaric. It is not in.
Speaker 14: Defending itself defensive is when you do that, stoping somebody
Speaker 14: attacking it?
Speaker 4: Is that what Israel is really supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Simply throw up her hands in the wake of the
Speaker 1: October seventh barbarities, the murders, the rapes, the beheadings, the kidnappings,
Speaker 1: the killings of babies. No, of course, not Israel must
Speaker 1: ensure that such barism can and never will occur again.
Speaker 1: And of course the only way to do that is
Speaker 1: to let me spell it out for the fools, by
Speaker 1: defeating and annihilating the enemy, every single terrorist that threatens you.
Speaker 1: There is no other choice. If someone comes at you
Speaker 1: with deadly intent, announces their intention to destroy you and
Speaker 1: your people, proclaims that they will attack you again and
Speaker 1: again and again until you have been wiped off the
Speaker 1: face of the earth, their words, not mine, then the
Speaker 1: only response is to use every weapon, every opportunity, every
Speaker 1: tactic at your disposal to completely eradicate that threat in
Speaker 1: order to defend your people, your women, your babies, your borders,
Speaker 1: your faith, and your nation for all time. Now. Some
Speaker 1: dopey woman on a BBC chat show may be able
Speaker 1: to get away with spouting drivel about ceasefires and the
Speaker 1: poisonous doctrine of moral relativism. But alas she is not alone,
Speaker 1: she is not alone voice. Indeed, such foolishness, such naivety,
Speaker 1: and such UN a graduate gullibility drips out of every
Speaker 1: pore of my third female candidate for the most dangerous
Speaker 1: fool of the week, our own Foreign Secretary Penny Wong.
Speaker 1: Here she is pontificating at the UN about her beloved
Speaker 1: and completely unworkable and asinine two state solution for Israel
Speaker 1: and Palestine.
Speaker 14: Israel must comply with the binding orders of the International
Speaker 14: Court of Justice, including to enable the provision of basic
Speaker 14: services and humanitarian assistance at scale. Australia shares the frustration
Speaker 14: of the great majority of countries more than seventy seven
Speaker 14: years since this General Assembly adopted Resolution one eighth one,
Speaker 14: a plan for two states side by side, one Jewish
Speaker 14: one Palestinian. Seventy seven years later, that Palestinian state still
Speaker 14: does not exist, long held out as the promise at
Speaker 14: the end of a peace process that has ground to
Speaker 14: a halt. The world cannot wait all contribute new ways
Speaker 14: to break the cycle of conflict. Earlier this year, Australia
Speaker 14: voted in the General Assembly and support of Palestinian aspirations
Speaker 14: for full membership of the United Nations. We have sanctioned
Speaker 14: Israeli extremely settlers and will deny anyone identified as an
Speaker 14: extremist settler a visa to travel to Australia. But individual
Speaker 14: country actions alone are not moving the dial. The international
Speaker 14: community must work together to pave a path to lasting peace.
Speaker 14: The world cannot keep hoping the parties will do this themselves.
Speaker 14: We cannot allow any party to obstruct the prospect of peace.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. So there you have it, no recognition whatsoever. But
Speaker 1: on numerous occasions, how many.
Speaker 4: Occasions in these last seventy seven.
Speaker 1: Years, Israeli leaders have supported the creation of a Palestinian state,
Speaker 1: only to be spurned time after time after time. Israel
Speaker 1: has been attacked unilaterally by armed.
Speaker 4: He's into fathers and terrorists.
Speaker 1: Israel withdrew from Gaza in a Land for Peace deal
Speaker 1: that delivered no peace, indeed only the horrors of last October,
Speaker 1: and is currently threatened by Iran's deadly proxies on six
Speaker 1: different warfronts, including the eight thousand rockets fired by Heswela
Speaker 1: at Israeli towns and villages. Disgracefully, Pennywong made a song
Speaker 1: and dance about Australia sanctioning Israeli settlers, but no mention
Speaker 1: of all the Ghazans we have simultaneously let in without
Speaker 1: bothering with any adequate security checks.
Speaker 4: What a farce.
Speaker 1: Worse, Pennywog wants her and her like minded friends at
Speaker 1: the UN to simply impose their own two state solution,
Speaker 1: which would in effect create a permanent terror state and
Speaker 1: a permanent state of terror on Israel's borders with United
Speaker 1: Nations and Pennywog's legal blessing. And just to top it
Speaker 1: all off, and just to show that she hasn't forgotten
Speaker 1: that other great international challenge, Penny also used a UN
Speaker 1: speech to floor into Greta style climate's credentials.
Speaker 14: Of course, it's not just finance and unfair trade arrangements
Speaker 14: that threaten development. Climate change is causing more disasters, reversing
Speaker 14: years of development gains overnight. Extreme weather threatens food and
Speaker 14: water security with grave implications for global stability. By the
Speaker 14: end of twenty twenty five, Australia will offer climate resilient
Speaker 14: dead causes in our sovereign loans and the groundbreaking Australia
Speaker 14: to valou Fallipili Union Treaty entered into force on the
Speaker 14: twenty eighth of August. Friends. It is the first time
Speaker 14: two nations have recognized in a legally binding treaty continuing
Speaker 14: statehood and sovereignty, notwithstanding the impacts of sea level rise.
Speaker 1: Penny one Greta Thunberg in a pink suit. The arrogance, naively,
Speaker 1: naivety and sheerhootspa were breathtaking in her speech, and of
Speaker 1: course was surrounded by like minded lefties at the UN,
Speaker 1: including our old favorite mister The era of global boiling
Speaker 1: has arrived. Antonio Geterus himself always hungry for the hyperbowl
Speaker 1: sound bites. Hell is breaking lues in Lebanon. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: the UN we're very quick to condemn Israel brilliantly defending
Speaker 1: itself against Hesbola with the targeted pager explosions, which of
Speaker 1: course were designed only to kill you if you were
Speaker 1: a terrorist, but not according to the UN.
Speaker 15: I share the sectory of gender's deep alarm at the
Speaker 15: reports of a large number of communication devices exploding across Lebanon.
Speaker 1: I'm appulled by the breadth and impact of the attacks
Speaker 1: on seventeen and eighteen September in Lebanon on civilians has wella.
Speaker 14: Is an integral component of Lebanese political and social fabric.
Speaker 1: And then, of course, when it came time for Israeli
Speaker 1: Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yahoo to speak. Half of the
Speaker 1: Deliate's all walked out of the forum. What a joke
Speaker 1: and what a speech it actually was from Benjamin Yet Yahoo,
Speaker 1: Primnist of Israel.
Speaker 13: I didn't intend to come here this year. My country
Speaker 13: is at war fighting for its life. But after I
Speaker 13: heard the lies and slanders leveled at my country by
Speaker 13: many of the speakers at this podium, I decided to
Speaker 13: come here and set the record straight.
Speaker 1: And set the record straight he did.
Speaker 13: And here's the truth. Israel seeks peace, Israel yearns for peace.
Speaker 13: Israel has made peace and will make peace again. Our
Speaker 13: enemies seek not only to destroy us, they seek to
Speaker 13: destroy our common civilization and returned all of us to
Speaker 13: a dark age of tyranny and terror.
Speaker 1: Tethnajo then spoke of the Biblical choice between a blessing
Speaker 1: and a curse and pointed out how Donald Trump's Abraham
Speaker 1: Accords had delivered the blessing of a potential historic alliance
Speaker 1: between the Saudis and Israel, which had been scaffered by
Speaker 1: the curse. Of October seventh.
Speaker 13: Thousands of Iranian backed Tramasteris from Gaza burst into Israel
Speaker 13: in pickup trucks on motorcycles, and they committed unimaginable atrocities.
Speaker 13: They savagely murdered twelve hundred people. They raped and mutilated women,
Speaker 13: They beheaded men, They burned babies alive, They burnt entire
Speaker 13: families alive, babies, children, parents, grandparents, and scenes reminiscent of
Speaker 13: the Nazi Holocaust.
Speaker 1: The Israeli Prime Minister then spoke of the hellish horrors
Speaker 1: endured by the hostages and their families, and the need
Speaker 1: to bring them all home, and he issued this warning
Speaker 1: to Iran.
Speaker 13: I have a message for the tyrants of Tehran. If
Speaker 13: you strike us, we will strike you. There is no place,
Speaker 13: there is no place in Iran that the long arm
Speaker 13: of Israel cannot reach. And that's true of the entire.
Speaker 1: Biddleis Netanahu then went on taking his blessing and curse
Speaker 1: analogy to compare what a Saudi Israeli alliance can bring
Speaker 1: to the world in terms of a safe and secure
Speaker 1: trading bridge between Asia and Europe, to the opposite of
Speaker 1: the curse, the curse of the range In Terror regime
Speaker 1: and its crescent of conflict.
Speaker 13: On the one hand, a bright blessing a future of hope.
Speaker 13: On the other hand, a dark future of despair.
Speaker 1: And without mentioning Biden or Obama by name, bb is
Speaker 1: a diplomat by trade, after all, Natanyah, who made this
Speaker 1: critical point.
Speaker 6: For too long, the world is appeased Iran.
Speaker 13: It turns a blind eye to its internal repression, it
Speaker 13: turns a blind eye to its external aggression. Well, that
Speaker 13: appeasements must end, and that appeasement must end now.
Speaker 1: Natinna who called on the world to help Israel stop
Speaker 1: Iran's nuclear program for the sake of the peace and
Speaker 1: security of the entire planet. That's how you save the planet, Penny,
Speaker 1: not by fatuous net zero policies. Netanyah, who then explained
Speaker 1: the extraordinary success the Israeli army has had destroying hamas
Speaker 1: and its weapons at the same time as protecting to
Speaker 1: an extent never ever seen before civilian populations, and explained
Speaker 1: why amass can never be allowed to be part of
Speaker 1: rebuilding Gaza.
Speaker 13: Imagine in a pulse war situation in World War two.
Speaker 13: Imagine allowing the defeated Nazis in nineteen forty five to
Speaker 13: rebuild Germany. It's inconceivable, it's ridiculous. It didn't happen. Then
Speaker 13: it's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: Now, Ntanna, who seeks peace. Every Israeli seeks peace, but
Speaker 1: not the phony un piece of wishful thinking wong or
Speaker 1: global boiling guitarists and Gretathunburg, but a proper lasting piece.
Speaker 6: This war can come to an end. Now.
Speaker 13: All that has to happen is for Hamas to surrender,
Speaker 13: lay down its arms, and release all the hostages. But
Speaker 13: if they don't, But if they don't, we will fight
Speaker 13: until we achieved victory, total victory.
Speaker 6: There is no substitute for it.
Speaker 1: Natanaho then reiterated how Hezbala have tyrannized Lebanon for decades,
Speaker 1: destroying what was once a beautiful country in this permanent conflict,
Speaker 1: using civilian homes and schools to store and launch rockets, tunnels,
Speaker 1: et cetera. He vowed Natanaho to push Hesbala back from
Speaker 1: Israel's borders and return Israelis to their homes, as well
Speaker 1: as restating that Israel is not at war with the
Speaker 1: Lebanese people, it's a war with Hisbolla. Finally, he returned
Speaker 1: to his key point, the success and potential for peace
Speaker 1: of his and Donald Trump's Abraham Accords.
Speaker 13: But to truly realize the blessing of a new Middle East,
Speaker 13: we must continue the path we paved.
Speaker 6: With the Abraham Accords four years ago.
Speaker 13: Above all, this means achieving a historic peace agreement between
Speaker 13: Israel and Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 1: Let's all hope and pray for all our sakes that
Speaker 1: they succeed. These were the words of a visionary leader,
Speaker 1: who then went on at length to paint a picture
Speaker 1: of what such an alliance would look like, with the
Speaker 1: Middle East prospering in trade and joint the ventures and
Speaker 1: in peace.
Speaker 13: The millions of Israelis have already flown back and forth
Speaker 13: across the Arabian Peninsula, over the skies of Saudi Arabia
Speaker 13: to the Gulf countries. The trade, the tourism, the joint ventures,
Speaker 13: the peace, the peace.
Speaker 1: Yes, this was the speech of a great world statesman
Speaker 1: seeking to bring peace to one of the most fraught
Speaker 1: places on the planet. And we should all be getting
Speaker 1: behind that quest for peace. Can Netta who do it? Yes?
Speaker 1: But only enough if enough of the world's leaders share
Speaker 1: his vision, not the undergraduate silly kumbay our socialism of
Speaker 1: guitarists and wong and they're pointless pontificating that the pragmatic,
Speaker 1: moral and strong leadership of people like Benjamin Netanyahoo and
Speaker 1: Donald Trump where military forces used when and where necessary
Speaker 1: to eradicate evil. And to round it all off, Netanyahu
Speaker 1: launched into a terrade against the United Nations itself, describing
Speaker 1: the moral stain of the anti Semitic bile of this
Speaker 1: global body. We all fund that has passed twice as
Speaker 1: many condemnations against Israel in the last decade alone and
Speaker 1: all the other nations combined.
Speaker 13: So all the speeches you heard today, all the hostility directed.
Speaker 6: At Israel this year, it's not about Gaza. It's about Israel.
Speaker 13: It's always been about Israel, about Israel's very existence. And
Speaker 13: I say to you, until Israel, until the Jewish State
Speaker 13: is treated like other nations, until this anti Semitic swamp
Speaker 13: is drained, the UN will be viewed by fair minded
Speaker 13: people everywhere as nothing more than a contemptuous farce.
Speaker 1: Couldn't have put it better myself, Nothing more than a
Speaker 1: contemptuous farce. I think that pretty much sums it up accurately.
Speaker 1: And thanks to labor, the Greens, the Teals and so on.
Speaker 1: Australia shamefully plays a leading role in that contemptuous farce. Well,
Speaker 1: joining us now is freedom activist Monica Smith. Monica sued
Speaker 1: Victoria Police after she was arrested three times within three
Speaker 1: hours at an anti lockdown rally in Melbourne. Is back
Speaker 1: during the height of the whole COVID nonsense. Back in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. In a victory for freedom, Monica I an
Speaker 1: unlawful arrest case against the police. She represented her self
Speaker 1: alone in court. Buttsch, Monica, it comes with a sting
Speaker 1: in the tail. Congratulations on winning your unlawful arrest case.
Speaker 1: But it does come with a sting in the tail.
Speaker 1: What tell us about that? Tell us what it was
Speaker 1: like to win and the position you and I now
Speaker 1: find yourself in.
Speaker 9: Well, I do.
Speaker 16: Want the lasting memory of this story to be that
Speaker 16: I won, I proved my point, I got public vindication.
Speaker 16: I was unlawfully arrested twice. However, the clincher is that
Speaker 16: I have to pay the cost of the other side,
Speaker 16: which is upwards of two hundred and fifty thousand, and
Speaker 16: that is because I refuse to take a deal during mediation,
Speaker 16: because I wanted public vindication. Now, the mediation deal was
Speaker 16: fifteen thousand dollars. It did not come with a public apology.
Speaker 16: I tried to get one of those to avoid going
Speaker 16: to trial. Anyway, the judge awarded me only four thousand
Speaker 16: dollars for two unlawful arrests, and because I got I
Speaker 16: offered less in damages after trial. The legal system sees
Speaker 16: it as a loss, and so I have to pay
Speaker 16: for winning my case.
Speaker 1: So Monica tell us again. I mean, many viewers will
Speaker 1: know it, but some won't. The story of that arrest,
Speaker 1: why you were initially arrested during COVID, and why you
Speaker 1: then went to jail for twenty two days and nights
Speaker 1: Australia's first ever political prisoner.
Speaker 16: Well, actually the jail time was a year after the
Speaker 16: case that I just brought to the County Court recently.
Speaker 16: But on October thirty first, the case that just happened,
Speaker 16: I got arrested three times in one day. As a journalist,
Speaker 16: I was doing my job. I had my work permits.
Speaker 16: I kept telling them that I was working, but hey,
Speaker 16: they didn't believe me, and I believe that I was
Speaker 16: politically targeted and they didn't like that I was live
Speaker 16: streaming to such a large audience.
Speaker 9: Anyway, A year later in.
Speaker 16: Exactly the same treatment. To be honest, I got punished again.
Speaker 16: I got charged with two cases of incitement for inciting
Speaker 16: people to break COVID restrictions, and I got given bail
Speaker 16: conditions which would shut down.
Speaker 9: My lucrative business at the time.
Speaker 16: So, like I did a year before that, I said
Speaker 16: no and I didn't sign.
Speaker 9: The bail conditions.
Speaker 16: So I went to prison for twenty two days in
Speaker 16: solitary confinement for nothing because they dropped all the charges
Speaker 16: and Rowan that's going to be the next court case
Speaker 16: coming UPTA.
Speaker 3: Well, you talked about rejecting that pre trial offer and
Speaker 3: pursuing this because you wanted that public acknowledgment that they
Speaker 3: did the wrong thing. But given that now you have
Speaker 3: this enormous bill two hundred thousand dollars, do you regret
Speaker 3: pursuing this case.
Speaker 9: Absolutely not.
Speaker 16: I asked for a public apology to be attached with
Speaker 16: the deal, and they refused. And even though I didn't
Speaker 16: get an apology, RITA, winning your case is kind of
Speaker 16: the same thing. It's a forced apology. I got public vindication.
Speaker 16: It helped my reputation, It will help my reputation in
Speaker 16: the future because people who saw that footage thought that
Speaker 16: made I was a rebel, maybe I was a criminal,
Speaker 16: and now they know that I wasn't and I was
Speaker 16: unlawfully arrested.
Speaker 9: So for me that was so important.
Speaker 16: And it's really also critical to know that I am
Speaker 16: appealing this I would say ridiculous cost order, not just
Speaker 16: because I don't want to pay it, but because.
Speaker 9: The message it sends to people is very very dangerous.
Speaker 9: That if you're a.
Speaker 16: Citizen and you have the guts to go all the
Speaker 16: way and you represent yourself against a team of four lawyers,
Speaker 16: two barristers, two solicitors, and you win your case, you're
Speaker 16: still going to lose in the end anyway, So why
Speaker 16: even bother trying to pursue justice? And that is a
Speaker 16: very dangerous message, and I have to try to clear
Speaker 16: it up.
Speaker 9: So I am appealing no.
Speaker 3: That I agree with, because yeah, it does tell the
Speaker 3: average person just cop whatever happens, whether it's right or wrong.
Speaker 3: The case that you're set is coming up next? Is
Speaker 3: this the wrongful imprisonment? And what are you seeking there?
Speaker 16: Well, I haven't completely organized my thoughts on that. We
Speaker 16: haven't put in the statement of claim yet, and of
Speaker 16: course I've been.
Speaker 9: Obviously a little bit busy.
Speaker 1: And one thing.
Speaker 16: I've also learned from this last case Rita is to
Speaker 16: not play all my cards online, not tell everyone everything
Speaker 16: that's happening. So I'm going to keep my cards a
Speaker 16: bit close.
Speaker 9: To my chest on that one.
Speaker 16: But I can tell you that part of me did
Speaker 16: feel like not going to court over the twenty two
Speaker 16: days in prison, after the experience I just had. But
Speaker 16: then I reflected and realized that that's exactly what they
Speaker 16: want people to do, to sit down, to shut up,
Speaker 16: to take deals and just to do what they're told.
Speaker 16: And so I thought, no, no, no, I'm going to
Speaker 16: do the opposite.
Speaker 9: So it is going to be a big deal.
Speaker 16: However, if I got offered public vindication in a pre
Speaker 16: trial deal and not an insulting amount of money for
Speaker 16: twenty two days in solitary confinement, I would definitely consider
Speaker 16: taking the deal Rita, as long as there is no
Speaker 16: non disclosure agreement attached to it.
Speaker 1: So Monica, I'm in this extraordinary. When we look back
Speaker 1: at COVID, it seems like a ghastly nightmare, but it
Speaker 1: does have huge ramifications. You fought as a guess a
Speaker 1: freedom fighter. If you like, there's our footage we love
Speaker 1: playing there on the screen of the horrors that the
Speaker 1: Dan Andrews police regime inflicted on Victorians. It's completely changed
Speaker 1: your life, Monica. You know all these ongoing court cases etc.
Speaker 1: We had yesterday a big rally for freed for against
Speaker 1: the misinformation and disinformation laws in New South Wales, the
Speaker 1: Australian federal laws that are being proposed combating misinformation disinformation,
Speaker 1: big rally in Sydney. What are your thoughts on the
Speaker 1: misinformation and disinformation debate.
Speaker 16: Well, it's very triggering for me considering that I basically
Speaker 16: did go to prison for a social media post and
Speaker 16: then you see in the UK, you know, middle aged
Speaker 16: women are going to prison for retweeting other people's tweets.
Speaker 16: It's a very dangerous place to be and I don't
Speaker 16: want it to get any worse.
Speaker 9: In Australia. However, the Parliament.
Speaker 16: That we have at the moment put through the Digital
Speaker 16: Idea d Bill without any debate that they're allowing, you know,
Speaker 16: they're born Alive bill. They disregarded that, you know, so
Speaker 16: I don't have much faith in Parliament to push back
Speaker 16: on the Disinformation Misinformation Bill. So I'm concerned that it
Speaker 16: will go through to some extent, and I hope that
Speaker 16: the next government can do something about it. But I
Speaker 16: would say to the people out there listening, you know sometimes.
Speaker 9: You feel helpless. You know what can you do to
Speaker 9: stop it?
Speaker 16: Because we haven't been successful in really being able to
Speaker 16: stop dangerous bills recently. The best thing that I think
Speaker 16: we can do personally is to stop self censoring ourselves,
Speaker 16: because if we can't depend on the government to do
Speaker 16: the right thing, we have to depend on each other.
Speaker 16: So when you feel that little niggle in your head,
Speaker 16: in your conscience and in your throat or wherever you
Speaker 16: get that niggle to say what you think, to say
Speaker 16: what's on your mind, I'm telling you that that is
Speaker 16: what you can do to fight censorship.
Speaker 9: Just say what you think.
Speaker 1: Monica Smith.
Speaker 4: Always great to chat to you, and you're a great
Speaker 4: role model there for Australians who don't.
Speaker 1: Want the States telling you what to think and feel.
Speaker 1: And our first political prisoner unbelievable. Monica Smith, thanks so
Speaker 1: much for coming on Outsiders. After the break, we'll speak
Speaker 1: to a British Iranian lawyer about the escalating conflict in
Speaker 1: the Middle East and her personal journey in a tick
Speaker 1: you're watching Outsiders with Rita Panahi with no James isn't here?
Speaker 17: Oh what what?
Speaker 4: Where's Jans?
Speaker 1: And myself Rowandan thank you so much for watching us
Speaker 1: every Sunday morning. We certainly enjoy your company. Now this
Speaker 1: is a real treat for all Outsiders fans. Someone I've
Speaker 1: been following on Twitter now for a while. She's got
Speaker 1: great opinions, terrific ideas on everything that's happening in the
Speaker 1: Middle East, very passionate about it. She's British Iranian, she's
Speaker 1: a lawyer and an activist. Elka love Bon, Elka, Welcome
Speaker 1: to Outsiders. Really pleased to have you here on Outsiders.
Speaker 1: You've been very strong on social media about everything that's
Speaker 1: been happening in the Middle East, but particularly with reference
Speaker 1: to Iran. You wrote a very passionate piece about how
Speaker 1: for many years you'd been very pro Palestinian and you
Speaker 1: were astonished after October seventh, how you found that so
Speaker 1: many people, particularly in Britain, were suddenly supporting appeared to
Speaker 1: be supporting her mass or certainly supporting certain aspects of
Speaker 1: the pro Palestinian cause. You've argued against that very passionately
Speaker 1: on British television just tell us first of all, Elka,
Speaker 1: just a little bit about yourself, your background, your Iranian background,
Speaker 1: and why you are so passionate on the topic of
Speaker 1: what's happening in the Middle East.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, you know, I am Iranian, My family
Speaker 11: are from Iran. My parents left Iran, well, my mum's
Speaker 11: family left Iran after the revolution where my mum's family
Speaker 11: were executed, my aunt's husband more than thirteen people on
Speaker 11: my mom's side alone, and then came to England, grew
Speaker 11: up in England. I'm now an attorney in America. I
Speaker 11: think it was you know, obviously knowing the background of
Speaker 11: the Islamic regime in Iran and what it has done
Speaker 11: to my country, what it has done to my people,
Speaker 11: and you know, the system of propaganda and lies that
Speaker 11: it hides behind enable it in order to enable itself
Speaker 11: to continue doing what it's doing. And so when I
Speaker 11: started to observe the patents that it had, you know,
Speaker 11: kind of mimicked with its proxies in trying to achieve
Speaker 11: the same thing in different parts of the Middle East,
Speaker 11: it became very crucial to me, not only to speak
Speaker 11: to the downfall of the Islamic regime in Iran, but
Speaker 11: also to suppress a second, third, fourth, fifth Islamic republic
Speaker 11: popping up all over the Middle East, while hiding behind
Speaker 11: this red herring of resistance, which has absolutely nothing to
Speaker 11: do with why they're acting.
Speaker 3: Greta, the Iranian crown prince, the exiled crown Prince as
Speaker 3: At Polavi, spoke just over a week ago about the
Speaker 3: way to secure peace is to defeat the Iranian regime
Speaker 3: by fighting has La Her mass these proxies. You're not
Speaker 3: going to secure peace because Iran will just fund the
Speaker 3: next terror group. How is that battle going to be fought?
Speaker 3: Because the Iranian regime since the Islamic Revolution has just
Speaker 3: stamped down on any protest, any attempt by the population
Speaker 3: there to throw them out. How do you see that
Speaker 3: in the next ten years. Is the Iranian regime under
Speaker 3: any pressure? Could it?
Speaker 7: For?
Speaker 11: You know, it's not under enough pressure.
Speaker 1: And that's the problem.
Speaker 11: It's the reason that it's not under enough pressure is
Speaker 11: because the way that the Western world and the peace
Speaker 11: loving Middle Eastern world has approached the Islamic regime is
Speaker 11: with appeasement. You know, if we just do diplomacy with
Speaker 11: this regime, they'll stop doing xyz they'll stop taking Americans hostage,
Speaker 11: they'll stop funding their proxies, they'll stop funding regional terror. Well,
Speaker 11: it's been forty five years and it's very clear that
Speaker 11: diplomacy doesn't work. And it's this very strategy of appeasement
Speaker 11: that has promoted this kind of idea behind peace activism
Speaker 11: in the West, especially amongst the West and Left, that
Speaker 11: you know, if you just ignore the problem, or if
Speaker 11: you just be nice to the monster, that they'll go away.
Speaker 11: And it is this exact problem of this exact movement
Speaker 11: of ignoring the problem and seeking peace with it that
Speaker 11: has brought us to where we are, that has brought
Speaker 11: us to October seventh, that has brought the Middle East
Speaker 11: to its knees and at this pivotal moment where we're
Speaker 11: on the precipice of an all out war. So what
Speaker 11: we've clearly seen is that this strategy of appeasement and
Speaker 11: diplomacy does not bring us to peace. What it actually
Speaker 11: does is bring us to war, because you cannot be
Speaker 11: tolerant be intolerant. So absolutely, the Islamic regime in Iran
Speaker 11: has got to go since there hasn't been enough pressure
Speaker 11: on the regime. Now you see that Israel is targeting Herzbola,
Speaker 11: which is essentially it's crown jewel, it's golden child, right,
Speaker 11: it's proxy, and without that, the regime is going to
Speaker 11: be significantly weakened. So in conjunction with the weakening of
Speaker 11: its proxies in the Middle East, the Western World, and
Speaker 11: you know, similarly situated peace loving Middle Eastern countries near
Speaker 11: to unite in putting pressure on this Islamic regime and
Speaker 11: supporting the Iranian freedom fighters from within Iran to overthrow
Speaker 11: the regime.
Speaker 1: So Rita as well has a very similar upbringing to
Speaker 1: your own, Elika. She grew up first in the States
Speaker 1: and then moved to Australia. Her parents Iranian as well,
Speaker 1: fled from the revolution. What do you, through your family
Speaker 1: connections or so on, do you think the Iranian people
Speaker 1: are hungry to see the end of the iotolers? Oh?
Speaker 11: Absolutely absolutely, and you can see that just through the
Speaker 11: sheer scale of their protests, you know, And if anybody
Speaker 11: has any doubts about that, I mean, first of all,
Speaker 11: we have surveys that show that well over ninety percent
Speaker 11: of the people inside Iran are against the regime and
Speaker 11: ninety nine percent in the Diascra But if you even
Speaker 11: had any question about the legitimacy of the surveys, you
Speaker 11: can look at the very structured and systematic protests, especially
Speaker 11: from the time of the Woman Life Freedom movement, where
Speaker 11: in Tehran, for example, the store closures to protest the regime.
Speaker 11: There was one hundred percent store closures in Tehran in
Speaker 11: protest of this regime. Not only that, but the oil
Speaker 11: workers were going on strike in protests. Right, So people say, well, oh,
Speaker 11: you know, we shouldn't be sanctioning the regime because it's
Speaker 11: harming the Iranian people. While you can see that the
Speaker 11: Iranian people are quite literally sanctioning themselves. They are economically
Speaker 11: sanctioning themselves despite the dire condition that they're in because
Speaker 11: of their hunger and desperation to get rid of this regime.
Speaker 11: And so that's why it's never been more important to
Speaker 11: support the Iranian people in overthrowing the regime.
Speaker 3: And how do you say the upcoming US election end
Speaker 3: what that will mean for this Iranian regime because we've
Speaker 3: say dramatically different approaches from the Obama, Biden and Harris
Speaker 3: administrations compared to what we saw under four years under
Speaker 3: Donald Trump.
Speaker 11: Correct, And you know, the reality is that we know
Speaker 11: that the Democrats have a history of appeasing terrorist regimes,
Speaker 11: to put it quite bluntly, So what's going to have
Speaker 11: to happen at this juncture is that the Kamala Harris
Speaker 11: Kamala Harris's campaign is going to have to vocally denounce
Speaker 11: this commitment to appeasement with this regime. If you know,
Speaker 11: this campaign is going to be taken seriously. You know,
Speaker 11: her national security advisor Philip Gordon has written a book
Speaker 11: about advocating against regime change in the Middle East, and
Speaker 11: you know, Waltz has also previously advocated for diplomacy with
Speaker 11: these regimes.
Speaker 1: And so what we need to be.
Speaker 11: Hearing now from these campaigns is that they have no
Speaker 11: intention of appeasing the regime or doing diplomacy with the regime.
Speaker 11: Because you know, I call this period of time the
Speaker 11: last appeasement. You think that you have another four more
Speaker 11: years of appeasement and nothing's going to happen. This could
Speaker 11: be the very last segment of appeasement. Before you know it,
Speaker 11: it's too late to come back. So if we are
Speaker 11: going to see the incumbency of Kamala Harrison the upcoming election,
Speaker 11: we're going to have to know well ahead of time
Speaker 11: that she will commit to not appeasing this regime, and
Speaker 11: that's what we have yet to hear.
Speaker 1: So we'd like see Donald Trump. I think in the
Speaker 1: One White House would be my that would be takeout
Speaker 1: from that.
Speaker 4: Elika Lebon.
Speaker 1: Great to chat to you. Thanks so much for coming
Speaker 1: on Outsiders. I hope we can get you on again
Speaker 1: and I urge people to follow you on social media.
Speaker 1: You do some terrific posts there. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: to speaking to Outsiders this morning. Thanks so much, Elika Lebon.
Speaker 1: There from the States after the break. Canberra Clown Show
Speaker 1: in a tick, roll up, roll up, step right this way.
Speaker 1: It's the whackiest show on earth.
Speaker 4: It's the Canberra Clown Show.
Speaker 1: As we know, our favorite comedy clown, Alboso loves to
Speaker 1: steal his act, sorry, draw his inspiration from classic American
Speaker 1: comedy acts such as this one wacky turn of the
Speaker 1: century West Wing joker Donnie Rumsfeld.
Speaker 18: There are things we know we know, we also know
Speaker 18: there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know
Speaker 18: there are some things we do not know, but they're
Speaker 18: also unknown unknown. It's the ones we don't know we
Speaker 18: don't know.
Speaker 1: Brilliant and this week Alboso came up with his own
Speaker 1: version of that classic side splitting act called I'm doing
Speaker 1: what I'm doing, not what I'm not doing? Laugh a minute, stuff.
Speaker 1: Will you rule out.
Speaker 5: Changes to the hearing in property tasas this too?
Speaker 1: On East?
Speaker 17: Well, what we're doing is doing the legislation that we
Speaker 17: had before the Senate. So I talk about what we're doing,
Speaker 17: not what we're not doing. And what we're doing is
Speaker 17: trying to get through that legislation.
Speaker 1: And what is it Precisely Alboso has not been doing.
Speaker 1: Why he's not been asking Treasury to model changes to
Speaker 1: negative gearing and capital gains because the nation's going broke, sorry,
Speaker 1: not going broke. That's what he's been not doing. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: Treasury officials are bright enough to understand that what they
Speaker 1: are doing is what they are not doing, because well.
Speaker 4: They're just so full of ideas.
Speaker 1: They can't help themselves coming up with ideas they are
Speaker 1: not coming up with. But just to confirm from your government,
Speaker 1: has us Treasury for more?
Speaker 17: No, I didn't. I didn't confirm that Treasury. I'm sure,
Speaker 17: like other departments to a range of proposals policy ideas.
Speaker 1: Of course they do. Yes, it's just the boffins coming
Speaker 1: up with ideas all by themselves, nothing to do with
Speaker 1: Alboso and charmers. But hang on, hasn't albo pulled this
Speaker 1: stunt once before? Yes? Indeed, those with long memories will
Speaker 1: know that he has after promising the same thing about
Speaker 1: changes to your super annuation. You know, they're just ideas,
Speaker 1: nothing to do with us, and we're never going to
Speaker 1: do them anyway, They'll never happen. And then hey, presto,
Speaker 1: they did happen.
Speaker 4: What a magician.
Speaker 15: Hamish. A whole range of body he's including the Gratton
Speaker 15: Institute and others, have put out various ideas in this debate.
Speaker 15: They're the ones that are out there on the debate.
Speaker 15: We've had no changes. We're not here announcing changes today.
Speaker 15: I'm announcing the earnings on superbalances above three million dollars
Speaker 15: will have a concessional rate of thirty percent rather than
Speaker 15: fifteen percent.
Speaker 1: Brilliant, just like that. Meanwhile, not to be outdone, everybody's
Speaker 1: favorite energy and climate clown, Chris Bowen Bobo Bowen took
Speaker 1: to social media this week to demonstrate that you can
Speaker 1: recycle his horrible windmills into equally horrible wind mills shoes, or,
Speaker 1: as one wag put it, by satirizing the footage into
Speaker 1: clown shoes.
Speaker 19: Well, I don't normally talk about the shoes I'm wearing
Speaker 19: on social media, but these shoes are made from recycled
Speaker 19: wind blades. Now, there's a myth out there that somehow
Speaker 19: renewables can't be recycled, when in fact, around eighty five
Speaker 19: percent of what's in a wind turbine can be recycled.
Speaker 19: They may be made from aluminium, steel and copper, and
Speaker 19: increasingly they're being recycled into floorboards and even shoes.
Speaker 20: Your money, dear.
Speaker 1: Interestingly, what Bobobo and forgot to mention was the fact
Speaker 1: that you don't need to wait too long to recycle
Speaker 1: the wind turbines. Sometimes they do it all by themselves.
Speaker 1: At least according to the Herald Sun, they do.
Speaker 6: Quote.
Speaker 1: Farmers have been worn to watch out for sharp shards
Speaker 1: of plastic flying off golden planes wind farm turbines. Victorian
Speaker 1: farmers have been worn to take extra safety precautions at
Speaker 1: their properties after sharp serrated edging began flying off the
Speaker 1: state's new green energy wind turbines. End of quote is
Speaker 1: if it's not hard enough being an Aussie farmer. Now
Speaker 1: you've got the windmills attacking you and your family on
Speaker 1: your own land. And how are these windmills working out
Speaker 1: for generations? An abundance of renewable energy for Australians. Perhaps
Speaker 1: it appears that Proud Renewables in South Australia had to
Speaker 1: switch on the diesel generations again this week, and maybe
Speaker 1: that's because the wind turbines failed to ensure enough power
Speaker 1: to meet peak time demand. By the way, if anybody
Speaker 1: wonders why the Albanezy government will be a one term
Speaker 1: circus act and get unceremoniously dumped by the electorate at
Speaker 1: the next election, just remember these fine words in the
Speaker 1: run up to the last election.
Speaker 17: Labor has real lasting plans for cheaper electricity, cheaper childcare,
Speaker 17: cheaper mortgages.
Speaker 1: Sorry, what was that again, Albo.
Speaker 17: Cheaper electricity, cheaper mortgages, cheaper electricity, cheaper mortgages.
Speaker 1: Cheaper electricity, cheaper mortgage sounds like misinformation to me. And
Speaker 1: speaking of which, one of the clowns from the Canbra
Speaker 1: Clown Show, who hasn't yet featured on this prestigious segment
Speaker 1: is of course Michelle Roll and our communication minister.
Speaker 4: Oh dear, gave me a bit of a fright there.
Speaker 1: She is the minister who will ultimately be in charge
Speaker 1: of what is and isn't the truth if her Combating
Speaker 1: Misinformation and Disinformation Bill gets up. Interestingly, she's the same
Speaker 1: woman who back in the day declared claims at hydroxychloroquin
Speaker 1: could be a good prophylactic against COVID to be medical misinformation. Well,
Speaker 1: only two weeks ago the results of a lengthy, double blind, randomized,
Speaker 1: placebo controlled trial found in the National Library of Medicine
Speaker 1: recorder that's hydroxychloroquin is safe and provides a moderate beneficial
Speaker 1: effect in preventing COVID nineteen. In other words, what Michelle
Speaker 1: Roland labeled medical misinformation now turns out to be medical information,
Speaker 1: also known as the truth. The canbreckclown Show can't get
Speaker 1: any sillier or scarier than that. What might fleet would
Speaker 1: Max say about our misinformation Minister? Well, as we've told you,
Speaker 1: Outsiders will be appearing at the SEAPAC twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: conference at the Sophotel in Brisbane next weekend, and we'll
Speaker 1: be hosting this very show live from that event.
Speaker 4: It'll be terrific. Can't wait to see you there.
Speaker 1: Go to www dot sepaccpac dot network to get your
Speaker 1: tickets and will also be taking questions, so you can
Speaker 1: send some questions in because we'll be answering them on
Speaker 1: the show live seapack at skynews dot com dot a.
Speaker 1: You will get those questions through. Now time for some
Speaker 1: hyper Bowl rita. Even though Donald Trump has had two
Speaker 1: assassination attempts against him, the Democrats don't get it. Have
Speaker 1: a listened to this obscenity.
Speaker 21: Then he just wouldn't be He was like a bug.
Speaker 1: He just kept being there.
Speaker 4: Who was like a like a bug right there, so
Speaker 4: you felt.
Speaker 3: Oh hmlarious. And then he got to Biden.
Speaker 1: Year, Biden slamming his hands squashing the bug of.
Speaker 3: Trump assassination attempts in as many months and they have not.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's nothing compared to some of the retric
Speaker 3: we have heard from from the Democrats from their propaganda
Speaker 3: in mainstream media, where they just continue to call Trump
Speaker 3: a threat to democracy, a threat to the Republicans. This
Speaker 3: is the US Secretary of Commerce.
Speaker 4: It's just another lie, like how did we get here?
Speaker 1: Let's extinguish him for good.
Speaker 3: We have an answer.
Speaker 14: We have a remarkably talented candidate, who is sincere, who's pragmatic,
Speaker 14: who's open.
Speaker 1: Let's just get it.
Speaker 3: Done, extinguish him for good. That's what she said. Never
Speaker 3: mind the lies afterwards about what a talented candidate. Paris
Speaker 3: is in a break. The woman is completely out of
Speaker 3: her depth, which was apparent again this week because she
Speaker 3: did another interview. This is the first one she did
Speaker 3: without any sort of a chaperone there. This is what's
Speaker 3: with them holistic?
Speaker 1: This was the holistic. Everything was holistic.
Speaker 3: Kicked the one of the biggest leftist activists in the
Speaker 3: US media. That's saying something. One of the real mad band,
Speaker 3: She's of MSNBC, who was on record saying that she
Speaker 3: shouldn't have to answer questions Kmala Harris. If she doesn't
Speaker 3: want to, she shouldn't have to because what are you
Speaker 3: going to do? Vote for Trump? That's impossible, So why
Speaker 3: should she even bother to do interviews. She was the
Speaker 3: one who was hand picked, and yet despite the help
Speaker 3: she tried to give Harris, she flounded. It was a
Speaker 3: car crash in parts.
Speaker 1: Even the New York Times said, can't do interviews.
Speaker 3: She just repeats the same talking points being from a
Speaker 3: middle class family talking about dreams aspirations, and it's just
Speaker 3: ambitions and ambitions, aspirations and dreams, just vacuuous surface level platitudes,
Speaker 3: no debt depth, no ability to answer the most simple
Speaker 3: obvious questions.
Speaker 1: If we had Kamala Harris here, the first question would
Speaker 1: obviously be why have you let nearly half a million
Speaker 1: convicted criminals, including thirteen thousand convict did murderers, homicide murderers,
Speaker 1: basically convictive homicide into the United States, yet have listened
Speaker 1: to Donald Trump on the issue.
Speaker 22: Director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement confirms that more than
Speaker 22: thirteen thousand illegal immigrants convicted of murder have been caught
Speaker 22: at the border and then released into the United States.
Speaker 6: It's a crime what she did. It's got to be criminal.
Speaker 1: There's no greater act of disloyalty than to extinguish the sovereignty.
Speaker 6: Of your own nation. Then that's what she's done.
Speaker 1: She's ruined donation, She's ruined donation. I mean, Trump's not
Speaker 1: pulling any punishers now, Reider. He's accusing Biden and Harris
Speaker 1: of destroying American sovereignty, on which they have They've let
Speaker 1: nearly half a million convicted criminals into the nation.
Speaker 3: What do you mean more than four hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: five thousand, You said, thirteen thousand convicted of homicide, even
Speaker 3: a bigger number convicted of things like serious sexual assault
Speaker 3: released into the country just free roaming, doing god knows what.
Speaker 3: To me, this is tantamount to treason. This is treason
Speaker 3: against your people. As leaders of a country, your number
Speaker 3: one priority should be the protection of your population, of
Speaker 3: your citizens, and that have completely failed in that respect.
Speaker 3: In fact, they've gone out of their way to facilitate
Speaker 3: this lawlessness, having pool factors where people are encouraged to
Speaker 3: come and across that border illegally. And it's not an
Speaker 3: accident that in every year of the Biden Harris administration
Speaker 3: that have broken the record for illegal crossings. It is
Speaker 3: absolutely out of control, and it has changed certain American cities,
Speaker 3: changed perhaps forever. Trump is saying that he's going to
Speaker 3: do these mass deportations, but that is going to be
Speaker 3: very difficult to achieve. I'm not saying he's not going
Speaker 3: to try. But it was also interesting this week we
Speaker 3: saw some polling showing the percentage of Americans now who
Speaker 3: support that border wall has sky and Kamala Harris is
Speaker 3: now visiting the border and pretending to care about this
Speaker 3: issue when in the past she's called these immigration officials,
Speaker 3: you know, compared them to KKK. She has said that
Speaker 3: illegal immigration isn't a crime, that illegal immigrants should have
Speaker 3: free health care, the ones who get putting jails should
Speaker 3: have access to taxpayer funded gender assignment surgery. I mean,
Speaker 3: her record in this area is abysmal. And now she's
Speaker 3: pretending to be Donald Trump in a skirt.
Speaker 1: Well astant seeing she's wandering around saying that she's going
Speaker 1: to close the border or look after the border, et cetera.
Speaker 1: I don't believe the American people can be as stupid.
Speaker 4: As the polls.
Speaker 1: That is, I believe Donald Trump is going to win
Speaker 1: this thing, and win big, because I think the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks we have just seen lie after lie
Speaker 1: we have. I don't think the American people are buying this.
Speaker 1: We've seen more and more kids coming out in favor
Speaker 1: of Trump.
Speaker 4: We've seen more and more Blacks, Hispanics, all.
Speaker 1: The different demographics which traditionally have supported the Democrats are
Speaker 1: just going no. There is because Trump is a cultural figure.
Speaker 1: Now we saw all the eating cats songs and all
Speaker 1: the rest of it. But that's funny, but it also
Speaker 1: shows that the question of the board how they have
Speaker 1: so completely trust him, as small towns across America have
Speaker 1: got inundated with these immigrants who are taking you know,
Speaker 1: who are wandering around with thousands of dollars they've been
Speaker 1: given while poor people are suffering with not having enough
Speaker 1: to eat and not having enough money just to pay
Speaker 1: the groceries. America is going to rebel against this, and
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see a much bigger swing
Speaker 1: to Trump than any of the poles are predicting.
Speaker 3: That's my But the media campaign here, I have never
Speaker 3: seen anything like it. I don't think I ever will
Speaker 3: again in my life, the way the media has just
Speaker 3: gone into campaign mode. In Unison, trying to memory hold
Speaker 3: the last three and a half years, because even the
Speaker 3: left wing media has been damning of Kamala Harris's performance
Speaker 3: as VP. She's been variously described as you know, Biden's
Speaker 3: greatest mistake and just being ineffective, being inept. They've just
Speaker 3: completely memory hold that. It's now she's this leader.
Speaker 4: Some people are stupid. Some people are stupid, but not everybody.
Speaker 3: Rowan is positive about her in so many media outlets.
Speaker 3: I'm talking CNN, MSNBC, ABC, there's a lot of media outlets,
Speaker 3: and I know their power is and what it used
Speaker 3: to be, but they still have power. And there's a
Speaker 3: lot of people who are not that politically engaged who
Speaker 3: might see that see on one hand, threat to democracy.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, Well, let's have listened to this
Speaker 1: a bit of a vox pop This This is you know,
Speaker 1: blacks for Trump speaking up for Trump, which is an
Speaker 1: unusual demographic.
Speaker 6: Have a listen.
Speaker 21: Think those black people are trying to look for something different,
Speaker 21: and a lot of us are waking up, especially black men,
Speaker 21: and we're waking up to what the Democrat Party has
Speaker 21: been doing to us for so many years. You can
Speaker 21: see what Biden is doing right now making promises, but
Speaker 21: in reality, nothing is changing. We've been hearing hope and
Speaker 21: change for a long time now and there hasn't been
Speaker 21: a real hope and change at the ground level.
Speaker 15: President Trump is the only person that can get the
Speaker 15: job done here here.
Speaker 1: He's the only person who getting the job done, and
Speaker 1: he will get the job done. That's it for Outside
Speaker 1: of Sarithro and I what fun we've had the child
Speaker 1: us who was missing James. That was it. We'll see
Speaker 1: you next Sunday with James at Sea Pack Live where
Speaker 1: they're What a show that's going to be. You do
Speaker 1: not want to miss it, whether you're there or whether
Speaker 1: they're watching on Telly.
Speaker 4: We'll see you next Sunday for Outside of his life