WEBVTT - Outsiders | 29 September

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<v Speaker 1>Lord, this is outside Well, good morning, and welcome to Outsiders,

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<v Speaker 1>the show that Kamala Harris is to pithy, meaningful answers

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<v Speaker 2>And assistance to state and local governments around transit dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and looking holistically at the connection between that and housing,

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<v Speaker 2>and looking holistically at the incentives we in the federal

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<v Speaker 2>government can create for local and state governments to actually

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and let's check in with the young uns and

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<v Speaker 3>say what's getting them excited holistically?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the kids are lining up for Trump. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, the Trump momentum is on the way. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to win, in my opinion, while America gets ready

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<v Speaker 1>to elect Donald Trump in a holistic landslide and the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats get ready to fortify the vote through whatever holistic

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<v Speaker 1>ballots they can find wherever, let's grab the latest Outsiders news.

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<v Speaker 4>Rita. The big story over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Was, of course, the killing of Hezbolla leader Nasrallah. Now

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<v Speaker 1>our first, no one was sure if he was dead

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<v Speaker 1>or if you his bond. An extraordinary story. I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>talking later about Benjamin nettin Yahoo's speech.

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<v Speaker 4>And Penny Wong speech.

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<v Speaker 1>You aren't going to that quite yet, Penny Wong speech

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<v Speaker 1>and net and Yahoo speeches at the United Nations.

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<v Speaker 4>But what happened immediately after, and people.

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<v Speaker 1>Are saying all sorts of things, was the United Nations

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<v Speaker 1>speech a decoy while the bombing happened, But immediately after

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<v Speaker 1>n Israla was killed in those bombings of Hezbola, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you make of it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it looks like it was all very much coordinated.

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<v Speaker 3>And Nettaya, whose appearance in New York was to give

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<v Speaker 3>them the impression that perhaps they were focused on other areas,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing was going to happen for that period, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is precisely when they struck. So that in itself is fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>But they are cleaning up shop here. They do not

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<v Speaker 3>want to leave terror groups whose sole goal is the

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<v Speaker 3>elimination of the only Jewish state in the world to exist.

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<v Speaker 3>So why go through what we're going through right now

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<v Speaker 3>and leave Hamas Hezbola remaining just to launch the next

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<v Speaker 3>October seven and the one after it and the one

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<v Speaker 3>after it. So I can understand entirely the strategy and

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't help when you've got the US wavering, You've got Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>which is supposed to be a staunch ally of Israel,

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<v Speaker 3>saying we need a ceasefire and we can't have this

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<v Speaker 3>aggression continue. This aggression is in response to what hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of rockets flying across and we would have such enormous

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<v Speaker 3>casualties if Israel wasn't able to defend itself so well,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's something that is overlooked when we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>it in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it astonishes me because Pennywong made a complete fool

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<v Speaker 1>of it self in my opinion, at the United Nations

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<v Speaker 1>and carried on doing so this morning on Sky.

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<v Speaker 4>In my opinion with this undergraduate, I think we.

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<v Speaker 3>Can assume everything you say, Rowan is your opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an opinion show.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew it was different to the others. It's an.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for reminding me reason good, excellent, So I

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<v Speaker 1>won't need to qualify that any longer. But my point

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<v Speaker 1>was that here we have the Australia in Foreign Minister

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<v Speaker 1>making this kind of undergraduate. I mean, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Penny Wog's thinking has moved since she was at the

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<v Speaker 1>University of South Australia or Adelaide or whatever it was

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<v Speaker 1>back in the nineteen seventies or eighties.

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<v Speaker 4>She's still in this.

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<v Speaker 1>Idea of this, oh, the two state solution, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>banging on about, oh, you know, Israel's got to abide

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<v Speaker 1>by the rules and all this sort of stuff. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you, Rita, there has not been a military

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<v Speaker 1>force on this planet ever since the first og picked

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<v Speaker 1>up a spear or a club and hit his mate

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<v Speaker 1>over the head with it.

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<v Speaker 4>There has never been an army on this planet.

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<v Speaker 1>A military force that has treated civilians with such care take,

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<v Speaker 1>gone out of its way to such an extent, used

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<v Speaker 1>the full strength of its intelligence and its technology to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure that civilian casualties are kept to an absolute minimum.

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<v Speaker 1>There's never been a better ratio, Rita between killing the

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<v Speaker 1>genuine enemy, the terrorists, and not killing civilians.

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<v Speaker 4>Israel can rightly be proud of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet we've got Penny Wong prancing around New York, prancing

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<v Speaker 1>around talking about, oh, Israel's got to abide by the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got to do this, They've got to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>They are abiding by the rules better than anyone has

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<v Speaker 1>ever abided by them before. Reads are in my opinion, No.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right there, and again Israel has held to a

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<v Speaker 3>different standard than every other country, and that in itself

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<v Speaker 3>is a problem here. They have gone out of their

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<v Speaker 3>way to limit civilian casualties. Doesn't help when her mask

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<v Speaker 3>put the the weapons the headquarters, amongst their people, in schools, hospitals, everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to maximize casualties. They don't care about their

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<v Speaker 3>own people. And yet they rely on this backlash in

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<v Speaker 3>the West from leftist idiots to put pressure on Israel,

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<v Speaker 3>and the leftist idiots never let them down. They're always there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking about leftist idiots all over social media was oh,

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<v Speaker 1>how terrible they've you know, they've destroyed, they've but indiscriminate

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<v Speaker 1>bombing in Beiruts and all less. No, it was targeted

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<v Speaker 1>against Tesbola very specifically. This Nazrula character has wait for it, Rita,

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<v Speaker 1>where did the celebrations come The celebrations were in the

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<v Speaker 1>Arab world. Let's have a look at, for example, in

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<v Speaker 1>Syria where they were celebrating the death of Nazraela. Nazuela

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<v Speaker 1>has been behind the you know, the the decades of

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<v Speaker 1>violence in Lebanon in.

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<v Speaker 3>Syria, callous murders, murders the.

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<v Speaker 1>Iranian He's one of the Iran's chief proxies, the Ranas

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<v Speaker 1>behind so much or all in fact of this violence,

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<v Speaker 1>and to take him out was critical.

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<v Speaker 4>Israel is now taking out the enemies.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the only way to bring peace to the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle They've had decades of the Penny Wong two state

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<v Speaker 1>solution blah blah blah, undergraduate stating it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>The two state solution obsessed types can never explain what

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<v Speaker 3>they would actually look like. Are we going to have

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<v Speaker 3>her mass that the majority of the Palestine people are

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<v Speaker 3>backing her mass, are they going to be controlling the

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<v Speaker 3>other state? And how exactly is that going to work

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<v Speaker 3>when her master's number one objection is to destroy Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, you can all talk about two state solution

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<v Speaker 3>and this is the ideal path forward, but you actually

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<v Speaker 3>need to spell out some detail, and that's where it

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<v Speaker 3>falls apart and talked about the leftist idiots in the West,

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<v Speaker 3>and that extends sadly to the bulk of the media.

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<v Speaker 3>Ap News disgraced itself again. I just want to show

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<v Speaker 3>you two examples. First one, this is how they described

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<v Speaker 3>a Republican senator dying this is a man who served

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<v Speaker 3>his country died, and he's described as former US Senator

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<v Speaker 3>Jim in Off defense hawk who called human cause climate

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<v Speaker 3>change a hoax, dies at eighty nine. That's the headline.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is how they described a monstrous killer, a

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<v Speaker 3>terror leader, charismatic and shrewd. Look at longtime his Bola leader,

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<v Speaker 3>Hassan Nasra. I mean, this is this is this is

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing they did with Islamic Stately, you must

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<v Speaker 3>can remember what They called him a religious scholar or something.

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<v Speaker 1>And they did it with one of the They did

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<v Speaker 1>it with one of the Hamas characters, the one who

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<v Speaker 1>is blown up in Iran. They said, oh, he's the moderates.

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<v Speaker 1>I think even the Australian media, oh he's the moderate.

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<v Speaker 4>Why are Israel Israel blowing.

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<v Speaker 3>Up the moderate moderate terrorists?

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<v Speaker 4>But that's the Western media reads.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me just read your tweet from a Lebanese person,

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<v Speaker 1>a civilian as a Lebanese is a book called Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Elkhari As a Lebanese This is one of the happiest

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<v Speaker 1>days in Lebanon's history, he writes.

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<v Speaker 4>As a Middle Easterner, he says.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the most transformative and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's really key days for the Middle East as a

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<v Speaker 1>human being who holds peace. For my eyes, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the most important day for our region. And we cannot

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<v Speaker 1>reiterate enough Rita that the Penny Wong approach.

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<v Speaker 4>Is wrong, wrong, wrong, and.

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<v Speaker 1>The Israeli approach to solving this problem, finishing this war,

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<v Speaker 1>defeating her mass to ensure that this evil is rooted

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<v Speaker 1>out of the Middle East. And I'll be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this later in the show. How as the vision that Nettaya,

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<v Speaker 1>who has reader for the Middle East of a prosperous,

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<v Speaker 1>peaceful place linked to the Abraham Accords. Let's hope Trump

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<v Speaker 1>gets back in because we can see a bright future for.

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<v Speaker 3>The Middle East be talked about that, because I think

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<v Speaker 3>that is another critical point. Things are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>very different if it isn't a Trump administration, if we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have a Harris Wall's administration. Because we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>already her attitude to this issue. I know it causes

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<v Speaker 3>enormous alarm in Israel amongst Nettaya, Who's government and I

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<v Speaker 3>think beyond because they seemed to be obsessed with continuing

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<v Speaker 3>the failed Obama Biden's strategy. It doesn't work. We saw

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<v Speaker 3>in four years, how much could be achieved with Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>with the Abraham Accords, with normalizing relations between Arab nations

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<v Speaker 3>and Israel. And we have gone backwards at such a

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<v Speaker 3>rapid pace, and you hate to think what would happen

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<v Speaker 3>if we did have a Harris Wall's administration in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would be significantly worse than even what

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<v Speaker 3>we saw under Obama than Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I was interested reta to see Stephen Lowe.

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<v Speaker 4>The son of Frank Lowe, coming out. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>This I found particularly interesting because a few years ago

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke in events with the Lowe's and I pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out that the left wing agenda within Australia and the

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<v Speaker 1>States is going back a few years was poisonous to Jews.

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<v Speaker 1>Many in the room disagreed with me, I argued with me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was pleased to see Stephen Lowey coming out

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<v Speaker 1>and saying that the Greens rhetoric is daggering as they

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<v Speaker 1>mask their real agenda behind climate change, the environment or

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<v Speaker 1>a social conscience, but in fact the moral concerns are

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<v Speaker 1>the Greens. Following the events of October seventh and the atrocities,

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<v Speaker 1>you saw a different response from the Greens with their

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<v Speaker 1>rhetoric contributing, he says, to anti semitism in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's I'm glad to see that the scales are

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<v Speaker 1>falling off. Let's talk a little bit about scales falling

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<v Speaker 1>off or not falling off elsewhere. Rita. You were astonished

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<v Speaker 1>by the response from those who lost the Yes the

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<v Speaker 1>Voice referendum a year ago, next weekend or the weekend after,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're still licking their wounds.

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<v Speaker 4>They're still coming out and pretending.

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<v Speaker 3>That they need denial in denial, completely blind to their

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<v Speaker 3>own faults. An extraordinary, extensive piece in The Australian with

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<v Speaker 3>the Voice architects and chief promoters basically saying they were

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<v Speaker 3>invisible and swept under the table and that's why they lost.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you lost because.

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<v Speaker 3>You were not invisible. You did enormous harm to the

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<v Speaker 3>Yes cause. And I would argue that the biggest, the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest motivators for people voting No were the Yes camp.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't necessarily the No arguments that had so much

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<v Speaker 3>cut through. It was listening to the Yes camp. It

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<v Speaker 3>was the fact that they did get an enormous platform,

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<v Speaker 3>most of it uncritical, just allowed to push their divisive

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<v Speaker 3>agenda and Australians did not like it, and almost a

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<v Speaker 3>year later they seemed to be completely in denial about

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<v Speaker 3>what happened. They think there was some sort of a

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<v Speaker 3>you know, people were hoodwinked. We weren't hoodwinked. We saw

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<v Speaker 3>what happened. Your campaign not only had enormous institutional support,

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<v Speaker 3>every corporation, every sporting organization, the celebrity world, the culture.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone was backing it huge funding that the money that

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<v Speaker 3>ES camp had to push their agenda, the No camp

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<v Speaker 3>could not compete with it. They couldn't even run proper

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<v Speaker 3>campaigns in places like Melbourne and Sydney because ads were

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<v Speaker 3>so expensive. And yet every single state said no. And

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<v Speaker 3>that message isn't being listened to. It seems like they

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<v Speaker 3>are finding all sorts of mad rationalizations for what happened,

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<v Speaker 3>rather than just accepting Australians don't want to be divided

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<v Speaker 3>by race. We don't want to have racial privilege, racial

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<v Speaker 3>division enshrined in our constitution. We don't want it in

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<v Speaker 3>the law, we don't want it anywhere. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's again, while we're seeing this, people actually taking a stand,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know we're going to be talking to a

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<v Speaker 3>barrister later about the acknowledgment of countries that are shoved

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<v Speaker 3>down our throats at every meeting, at every event, sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>multiple times, every time a plane lands. Enough. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>want it. It doesn't bring us together, it separates us.

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<v Speaker 3>It's insulting to many Australians and people are finally feeling

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<v Speaker 3>entitled to actually to say what they think rather than

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<v Speaker 3>being chouting to silence.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you're right, reader. And the Yes campaign lost.

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<v Speaker 1>The turned people away for the simple fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't move throughout most of the suburbs of Sydney and

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<v Speaker 1>Melbourne without tripping over Yes signs and all the rest

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<v Speaker 1>which ended up in the recycling bins the next day

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<v Speaker 1>after the vote. But the reality was that the Yes

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<v Speaker 1>campaign went all out. This is a great moral thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all going to do this all we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>treaty and we're gonna have truth telling and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to and there's all sorts of moral pressure put on people.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know, said Marshall Langton. I think it was her.

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<v Speaker 1>If you vote know to this, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do any more. Welcomes to country, but that I'll learn you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well it's in.

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<v Speaker 4>And people went ekly.

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<v Speaker 1>People went you beauty, Yes, that'll be a no. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you beauty. And now this is why it is so important.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be talking to Lana Claris, as readA said, and

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<v Speaker 1>a tick. She's the barrister who's brave enough to stand

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<v Speaker 1>up in the workplace at the Victorian Bar and say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. If we're going to do a welcome our acknowledgment,

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<v Speaker 1>we do it to all Australians. We don't do it

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<v Speaker 1>to just one race or one small group of Australia's

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<v Speaker 1>very brave woman. We need more people who are prepared

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<v Speaker 1>to stand up in the workplace politely, respectfully and say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. We voted no to dividing Australia by race,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to country and particularly acknowledgment of country. Both those

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<v Speaker 1>things divide us further and further by race. They're just

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<v Speaker 1>doing the voice by stealth, and it's up to the

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<v Speaker 1>citizenry to stand up and say I'm sorry, we voted

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<v Speaker 1>against this, so we won't be participating in this particular event.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's critical at corporate Australia gets behind recognizing the

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<v Speaker 1>harm they did by jumping on to it. As Rita said,

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<v Speaker 1>turning away, customers, and more importantly, the Coalition has to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the next election with a very clear policy

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<v Speaker 1>to reduce welcome to countries, reduced acknowledgment to country and

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<v Speaker 1>reduce the use of the Aboriginal flag other than on critical, important,

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<v Speaker 1>proper ceremonious occasions, not this ubiquitous. Whenever we happen to

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<v Speaker 1>see anything we're going to, you are welcome to.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, anytime you see any member of the Labor government

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<v Speaker 3>these days speaking where they're in their offices, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the Australian flag behind them, it's the Australian flag plus

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<v Speaker 3>two other flags. Now we are one country exactly. The

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<v Speaker 3>Australian flag represents every Australian, whether you were born here,

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<v Speaker 3>whether you're migrant, whether you have ancestry that is indigenous.

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<v Speaker 3>It represents every single person. And I think this identity

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<v Speaker 3>politics is so poisonous. Australians rejected it and the government

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<v Speaker 3>needs to listen to that rejection. They cannot continue to

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<v Speaker 3>ignore it, and both state and the federal government have

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<v Speaker 3>ignored it. We've got so much. We've got states doing

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<v Speaker 3>treaties on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and we've got the new South Wales government talking

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<v Speaker 1>about doing some kind of exploration. They're spending millions of

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<v Speaker 1>gods going around to explore treaties or as we said no,

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian people said no. And if our politicians don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand this, they've got to learn the hard way. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got to learn at.

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<v Speaker 4>The ballot box out if they carry on.

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<v Speaker 3>Their response, that can only come if the coalition give

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<v Speaker 3>them a choice and tell you. In Victoria at the

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<v Speaker 3>last state election, the hapless Victorian Libs they were for treaty.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Victorians had no choice if you were cared

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<v Speaker 3>about this issue. But on every other significant issue the

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<v Speaker 3>Victorian Libs were also pretty much on board with labor.

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<v Speaker 3>I think people look at a place like Victorian wonder

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<v Speaker 3>how it could get so bad. How can you have

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<v Speaker 3>such an enormous state dead, how can you have a

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<v Speaker 3>state that seems so broken. Well, when people don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a choice, that's what happens. You have to give them

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<v Speaker 3>the choice.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The dangerous side reader of this whole thing, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>as you touched on, is that the left are pushing

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the referendum Voice referendum was lost on misinformation,

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore you have a combating misinformation and Disinformation Bill

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<v Speaker 1>being pushed through Parliament. There was a big rally yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>in Sydney against the Misinformation and Disinformation Bill and the

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<v Speaker 1>Coalition has to come out and not only oppose it,

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<v Speaker 1>which they've now said, they will oppose it finally, which

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<v Speaker 1>is good. Same strategy as the Voice way. It could

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<v Speaker 1>have come in sooner, but they didn't. I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>they did when they did. But they've got to go further,

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<v Speaker 1>much much further than just saying we oppose it.

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<v Speaker 4>They have to promise that it will not happen, that

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<v Speaker 4>they will repeal it if they get into.

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<v Speaker 1>Governments, which I believe they will, and if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the Senate then it's very simple. All they have

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<v Speaker 1>to do is fire the mob ad Akma, stick in

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people who believe in free speech in

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<v Speaker 1>those roles instead, and then guarantee that no government bureaucrat

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<v Speaker 1>ever tells the Australian people what is the truth and

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<v Speaker 1>what isn't the truth. That is up to the Australian

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<v Speaker 1>people to decide what is the truth, not some bureaucrats

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in Canberra eating a kal muffin telling us what

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<v Speaker 1>is or what isn't the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know with those bureaucrats that have proved over

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<v Speaker 3>and over again, and you even know with the so

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<v Speaker 3>called fact checking units at universities or segments of the media,

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<v Speaker 3>it is just activists who are mass grating as FactCheck

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<v Speaker 3>fact checkers. So what they see as harmful, what they

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<v Speaker 3>see as unhelpful to their left as cause, is disinformation, misinformation.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw that throughout COVID. We saw it with the

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<v Speaker 3>Voice where when you actually talked about the existence of

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<v Speaker 3>the full ulary statement from the heart and what it contained,

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<v Speaker 3>that was somehow disinformation. Inconvenient facts are disinformation to the left.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is orwelly and it is so dangerous and

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<v Speaker 3>thank god the Coalition have come out against it. If

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<v Speaker 3>it does become law, then it has to be something

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<v Speaker 3>that the that's on the ballot box when you when

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<v Speaker 3>you're casting your vote, you're voting for free speech or

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<v Speaker 3>this or well in mess that.

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<v Speaker 1>We had another example this week, and it's not and

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<v Speaker 1>misinformation disinformation. There's no such thing as truth, and there's lies,

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<v Speaker 1>there's truth, and there's propaganda. That's it and the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>You may not recognize the truth at the time when

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<v Speaker 1>it is the truth. I'll give you just an example

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<v Speaker 1>from week, but during COVID we talked about hydroxychloric when

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<v Speaker 1>there are those myself included, who said, hey, maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good prophylactic against COVID. That was right at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, we were told repeatedly that was medical misinformation.

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Rowlands, who was in fact the Communications Minister pushing

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<v Speaker 1>the Combating Misinformation Bill, I'll go into this in clown show,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was one who labeled that particular argument medical misinformation.

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<v Speaker 1>Only last week there was a paper in the Medical

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<v Speaker 1>Paper which came out and said the complete opposite, that

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<v Speaker 1>in fact basically supported that argument.

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<v Speaker 4>So arguments change and develop over time.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot have snotty nose canber bureaucrats telling you, the

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<v Speaker 1>people of Australia what is and what isn't the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we're going to go to a short break. But

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<v Speaker 4>before we.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, guess what.

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<v Speaker 4>Guess what?

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<v Speaker 1>Someone has written a song about Outsiders.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I can safely say we are the only show and

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<v Speaker 1>the first show on Sky to have our very own song.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of fun. You can listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>full song on soundclouded by Ali Pete Nuna. There he

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<v Speaker 1>is Ali Pete and here's a tiny equipment the outside

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<v Speaker 1>and the island season rising.

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<v Speaker 6>They turned it up a nudge for those who really.

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<v Speaker 1>Wan't the faster.

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<v Speaker 3>You're watching a very special edition of Outsiders with your

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<v Speaker 3>hosts Rowan Dean No James Morrow. What the trio is

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<v Speaker 3>a truesome just for today to worry. Coming up in

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<v Speaker 3>just a few minutes, we'll be talking to a barrister

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<v Speaker 3>who made headlines for saying enough enough of the incessant

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<v Speaker 3>of an incoherent acknowledgment of country announcements before every meeting

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<v Speaker 3>and event. But first, you may not feel like it

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<v Speaker 3>when you're in Australia with labor governments in power across

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<v Speaker 3>the mainland. But elsewhere in the world, from Europe to

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<v Speaker 3>South America, the right is rising and we are seeing

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<v Speaker 3>a new breed of leader emerge. These leaders are an

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<v Speaker 3>antidote to the lily livid identity politics of sess virtue

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<v Speaker 3>signaling socialist types the media doors you know, the likes

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<v Speaker 3>of Justin Trudeau and Jasinda Dern. This new breed of

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<v Speaker 3>right wing leaders are conviction politicians who unashamedly pursue an

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<v Speaker 3>agenda that seize them, maligned by their establishment, but despite

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<v Speaker 3>the hysteria and doomsday predictions, they have proved to be

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<v Speaker 3>enormously effective and popular. This week we saw Argentina's Java Mila,

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<v Speaker 3>who media outlets have described as far right ultra conservative

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<v Speaker 3>and the Argentinian Trump if that's a bad thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>El Salvador's Nave Bucala, variously described as far right and authoritarian,

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<v Speaker 3>give five brand speeches at the seventy ninth United Nations

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<v Speaker 3>General Assembly. El Salvador's wildly popular president, who was re

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<v Speaker 3>elected earlier this year with more than eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the vote, address the UN with some pointed remarks for

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<v Speaker 3>the Biden administration about regimes that prosecute and seek to

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<v Speaker 3>imprison their political opponents. President Bucalai, who has copped heavy

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<v Speaker 3>criticism from the Western media for his hardline approach to

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<v Speaker 3>crime reduction, was unapologetic about the policies that have seen

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<v Speaker 3>a dramatic drop in the country's homicide rate. He said

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<v Speaker 3>in Ol Salvador, the safety of law abiding citizens is

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<v Speaker 3>a higher priority than the comfort of criminals. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>Some say that we have imprisoned thousands, but the reality

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<v Speaker 3>is that we have freed millions in a single year.

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<v Speaker 3>The measures he employed saw the homicide rate for seventy percent.

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<v Speaker 3>El Salvador has gone from being one of the most

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous places on earth to be one of the safest countries.

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<v Speaker 3>Argentina's President Haavi Milay, who has achieved remarkable results in

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<v Speaker 3>a short period of time, also addressed the UN and

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<v Speaker 3>slammed the organization for going from one that pursued peace

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<v Speaker 3>to an organization that imposes an ideological agenda on its members.

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<v Speaker 3>Referring to the UN's support of covid era lockdowns, they

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<v Speaker 3>said it was guilty of being one of the most

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<v Speaker 3>main proponents of systematic violations of freedom. He also slammed

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<v Speaker 3>the UN for allowing despot nations to sit on its

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<v Speaker 3>Human Rights Council and lecture democracies like Israel. Millay had

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<v Speaker 3>this to say about the collectivism and neo Marxist agenda

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<v Speaker 3>of the UN. He said, I'd like to issue a

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<v Speaker 3>warning here. We are coming to the end of a

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<v Speaker 3>cycle collectivism, moral posturing, and the woke agenda is coming

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<v Speaker 3>up against reality. Also in New York this week was

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<v Speaker 3>it Italy is a Georgia Maloney who you'll remember the

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<v Speaker 3>Australian media labeled a fascist, extremist and far right. She

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<v Speaker 3>also spoke at the UN and while in New York,

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<v Speaker 3>she received the prestigious Global Citizens Award from the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 3>Anti Council. Far from being the destructive force with a warn,

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<v Speaker 3>she's actually been enormously successful so far. She has tackled

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<v Speaker 3>the illegal immigration crisis in a country, and her tough

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<v Speaker 3>approach has seen a sixty four percent drop in the

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<v Speaker 3>country's illegal immigration numbers. She's been so successful that Britain's

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<v Speaker 3>hard left labor Prime Minister Kis Darma went to Rome

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<v Speaker 3>earlier this month to see how she does it. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>listen to a little of what Maloney had to say

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<v Speaker 3>this week upon receiving her prestigious honor. She spoke of

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<v Speaker 3>Western civilization and why it's more important than ever to

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<v Speaker 3>protect its values.

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<v Speaker 7>I know that we should not be ashamed to use

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<v Speaker 7>and defend wars and concepts like nation and patriotism. The

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<v Speaker 7>West is more than a physical place by the world.

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<v Speaker 7>The West. We do not simply define countries by specific

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<v Speaker 7>geographical location, but as a civilization built over the centuries

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<v Speaker 7>with the genius and sacrifices of many, The West is

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<v Speaker 7>a system of values in which the person is central.

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<v Speaker 7>Men and women are equal and free, and therefore the

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<v Speaker 7>systems are democratic. Life is sacred, the state is secular

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<v Speaker 7>and based on the rule of law. I ask and

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<v Speaker 7>wonder to myself and to you, are these values of

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<v Speaker 7>which we should be ashamed of?

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<v Speaker 3>No, we shouldn't be ashamed, But that is what is

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<v Speaker 3>happening throughout the West. The left assault is coming from within,

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<v Speaker 3>seeking to demonize Western civilization.

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<v Speaker 7>But to the authoritarian funds, let me say very clearly

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<v Speaker 7>that we will stay and for our favlures.

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<v Speaker 1>We will do that.

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<v Speaker 7>Our freedom and our values and.

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<v Speaker 3>The pride we feel for them are.

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<v Speaker 7>The weapons our adversaries fear the most. So we can't

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:19.120
<v Speaker 7>give up the strength of our own identity. That would

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 7>be the best gift we can make authoritarian regimes. So

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<v Speaker 7>at the at the end of the day, patriotism is

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<v Speaker 7>the best response to declinism.

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<v Speaker 3>Here. Here, patriotism is the best response, but it's maligned

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<v Speaker 3>in the media, in the culture, and certainly in academia.

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<v Speaker 3>Standing up for Western values in your country instead of

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<v Speaker 3>being endlessly ashamed of it, is the way forward. We

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 3>are in an ideological war. Western civilization is under threat,

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<v Speaker 3>and finally we have some leaders who recognize the fight

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<v Speaker 3>and are on our side.

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<v Speaker 4>Fantastic thanks Rita, She's absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Georgie Maloney now joining us to someone equally amazing, in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, Barrister Lana Kolaris.

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<v Speaker 4>From the Victorian Bar. She's up here in Sydney in

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<v Speaker 4>the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thrilled to have her Whitheruslana was recently denounced, wait

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<v Speaker 1>for it, as a racist because she chose not to

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<v Speaker 1>do the Welcome to country at the meeting of the

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Victorian Bar Council. Lana elected to instead acknowledge, as I

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 1>was saying earlier, all Australians. She is now doubling down

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 1>on her criticism of those welcome to and knowledgement ceremonies.

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<v Speaker 4>Lana, great, welcome to outside. It's great to have you here.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for coming up to Sydney now.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible bravery you showed. I mean you would think you

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<v Speaker 1>could speak your mind freely in Australia, but particularly you

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>spoke up against what you saw as something you didn't

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>want to participate in. Tell us about that day and

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<v Speaker 1>arriving at that decision, and then also tell us what

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<v Speaker 1>it's been sense.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, well, thank you so much for having me here,

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<v Speaker 8>Rowan and Rita. The reason why I decided to acknowledge

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 8>all Australians that day is because I'd had enough of

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 8>this implicit seeding of sovereignty before every meeting, before every

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<v Speaker 8>zoom meeting, every time we land on a conscious flight,

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<v Speaker 8>and I'd had enough, and I just wanted to make

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<v Speaker 8>a stand against it and exercise my right to free

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<v Speaker 8>speech to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad you mentioned sovereignty because that, for me

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 1>is the key issue. And you're a lawyer. Yeah, I

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know what area of lawyer you specialize in, but

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 1>you've pinpointed the very problem for me every time we

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>are doing a welcome to country or an acknowledgment of country.

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<v Speaker 1>Implicit in that is the idea that sovereignty as it

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<v Speaker 1>exists in the law doesn't exist, that it's a fraud,

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<v Speaker 1>and that sovereignty quote was never seeded and it always

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<v Speaker 1>was and always will be some other form of Is

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<v Speaker 1>that what bothers you the most?

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<v Speaker 8>That's exactly what bothers me. It's the constant repetition of

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 8>this message that is being given to us that sovereignty

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<v Speaker 8>does not exist within the crown in some way, and

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<v Speaker 8>that's what I've got an issue with. It's wrong in

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<v Speaker 8>law and it's wrong in fact as well, and that's

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<v Speaker 8>why I decided to make a stand, and I posted

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<v Speaker 8>the minutes on social media, and I got a fairly

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 8>predictable personal attack leveled towards me, and that's what made

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 8>me think, you know, I'm going to sit down and

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 8>I'm going to express my views clearly in writing. And

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 8>that's what I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent. And how does this philosophy, because it is very

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 3>prevalent within the legal fraternity, and that worries me greatly

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 3>because you see it on the bench, you see it elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>How does it impact the law? Because you talked about

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<v Speaker 3>hearing about a client who was feeling like the justice

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 3>system wasn't what he expected it to be because of

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 3>these manipulations or these undermining of what we expect to

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 3>be the law for everyone. Unquestionably, like whoever you are,

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 3>you are judged the same, regardless of who you are

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<v Speaker 3>and what your background is.

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<v Speaker 8>That's right. The fundamental guiding principle of our constitution today

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 8>is a quality of citizenship. And if you're going to

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<v Speaker 8>take a stand it's different to that by making these

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 8>repeated acknowledgments of country, which repeatedly chip away at that sovereignty.

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 8>Then I think Australians have an instinct and they know

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 8>that something is not quite right, and they understand that

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 8>there is a political push behind this. And when you're

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 8>in a situation where courts are actually acknowledging country and

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 8>do not acknowledge the Crown, I think people understand that

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 8>there's some kind of political infiltration there. Yeah, and that's

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 8>what makes people Perhaps it's contributing to the lack of

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 8>the loss of confidence that people are having in the

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 8>legal system.

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<v Speaker 3>That certainly is this lack of trust in our institutions,

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 3>increasingly including the justice system in general. This view is

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 3>very much amongst the elite, as we call it. But

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 3>if you speak to the average Australians, I would bet

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 3>money on this or the overwhelming majority are sick of this.

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 3>They don't see a place for it, they see it

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 3>as divisive. But they're the ones who are least likely

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 3>to speak up because they fear the backlash. They don't

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 3>have much power. But amongst the elite, we were talking

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 3>the legal fraternity, academia, media, these views are very popular.

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 3>So how do we address that, How do we have

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 3>that silent majority other than through that referendum we had

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 3>last year that they've forgotten about. How do we actually

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 3>have their voices and their point of view knowledged.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, look, I can tell you from my experience that

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 8>I have not received that much backlash since I actually

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 8>came out and wrote my opinion piece. Yes, there are

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 8>the predictable characters who continue to make vile personal attacks

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 8>against me, but overwhelmingly the response has been positive. And

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<v Speaker 8>so I mean, I would say to people, don't be

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 8>afraid exercise your freedom of speech. We have it, so

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:29.239
<v Speaker 8>exercise it. We know that the majority of Australians are

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 8>with us on this. We've had a referendum, the facts

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 8>are in. People want an Australia where we are all equal,

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 8>regardless of our race. So yes, I would say, please

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 8>speak up and speak your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's true. And I think you're a

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>great role model for that, Lana, because people the immediate

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>accusation against you, and there was a similar accusation by

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I think a High Court judge during the referendum against

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>another legal person who was arguing against the boys. Oh

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>you're a racist. First thing is straight out you're a racist. No,

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>actually engaging with the argument, So you have to overcome that.

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>That's hurtful and not pleasant.

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 9>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>So your advice, so you know, what can people do

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<v Speaker 1>in the workplace or the board meeting or the local

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>council meeting or whatever.

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 4>Then class.

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<v Speaker 1>We learned this week in fact, have a listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is hilarious line I have a listened to this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is on Sydney Radio, ben Fordham this week. Just

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<v Speaker 1>have a quick listen.

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<v Speaker 10>We don't need to welcome at the start of a

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 10>zoom meeting and having a welcome to country at a

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 10>Polarates class, well that's just bizarre. So he listen here.

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 10>This is Lauren Barry. She's talking to Marty shear Gold

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 10>in Melbourne on the Marty shear Gold Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Does anyone else think they're welcome to country is overdone?

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot you guys, won't for me now?

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<v Speaker 11>I do find it sometimes in all of my polarates classes.

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<v Speaker 9>What and I do kidding sometimes I find.

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<v Speaker 2>That a little bit every Polarates class.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a lot.

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 11>Really yeah, and I'm all for the welcome to country.

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 4>We do a welcome to country for the community, and I.

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Think that that is I think that's a beautiful.

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Thing because we travel Australia. So, Lana, what you've done,

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 1>You've helped start an actually national conversation about this long

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>overdue where people are really tapping into this idea. Is

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>it appropriate? Have we overdone it? What does it actually mean?

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Is there not a better thing?

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 4>What does it achieve?

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Is there something better we could be doing with that time?

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:37.720
<v Speaker 1>And it's now reached the point where people are laughing

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>at it, polarates class laughing at it. So you've managed

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to keep good humor through all of this. Is that

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the best approach? Yes?

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 8>Look, I think when Australians are starting to realize more

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 8>and more that when people level and attack at you

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 8>as such as you're a racist, that it means that

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 8>they have no substance to their argument. They've almost essentially

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.800
<v Speaker 8>lost the eye as soon as they make that credit

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 8>attack because they're not addressing the underlying issue. And so

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 8>I think that people are becoming more alive to that.

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 8>So I just ignore it because I know I'm not.

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>A racist, And just quickly before we finish up, what's

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>happening now at the bar? Are they going to look

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>at it. Are they going to look at your idea

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:19.839
<v Speaker 1>of welcoming everybody?

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 8>I doubt it. I think the President Georgina Schoff, from

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 8>my read of her response to my article, made it

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:31.240
<v Speaker 8>clear that she's going to continue with the acknowledgment of country.

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>So we need you to run for the president. There

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 1>you go, there you go, and all your victorians out.

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>They need to vote for Lana Kalaris. That's what we

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 1>need to see.

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 4>But well done Lina for being brave.

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>You're a role model, as I said, to so many

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 1>people who do feel this, but they need the tools

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>to get up and have the courage to say well then,

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>thanks so much Lana Klaris for coming on Outsiders. After

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the break, we'll speak to the director of a film

0:36:53.480 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and exposes all the lefts climb out alive as well

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<v Speaker 1>as you know exciting news. Outsiders will be appearing at

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty four Seapack Conference, that's the Conservative Political

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Action Conference at the Soft Hotel in Brisbane next weekend

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>October fifth and sixth. We'll be hosting this show Rita myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Shall we get James Long? Yeah, We'll get James Lo. Yeah,

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>We'll get James Long. As well live from the event.

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be fantastic. Can't wait to see you

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>there and make sure if you haven't got your tickets yet,

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:34.160
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<v Speaker 1>Will also be taking questions from members of the audience,

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>So if you're attending Seapack and we'll be coming to

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>our show, which will be eight to ten am Queen's

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Line at the time, we'll get your questions there.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone who will be at Seapack and launching his film

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>is Joel Gilbert, filmmaker who has got his film The Climates.

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Brilliant film. I've seen it, The Climate according to al Gore. Joel,

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 1>great to see you. I saw your film at a

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 1>sneak preview with John Ruddock the other day. Terrific, terrific

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 1>work you've done there on basically skewing the nonsense of

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>al Gore over decades and decades. You're going to be

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>launching the film at Seapack, so just tell us a

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit about what we can expect. Joel.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, I made this film.

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<v Speaker 12>It's actually called The Climate according to Ai al Gore.

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 12>I used to work for al Gore when I was

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 12>an intern when he was a centator from Tennessee, and

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 12>I actually emailed him and said, I'd like to interview

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 12>you about your climate science. You didn't respond, So I said, well,

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 12>what if I could recreate al Gore using AI technology?

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 12>And so we actually have a video and audio of

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:43.760
<v Speaker 12>al Gore that I interview in the movie.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a lot of fun.

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:47.240
<v Speaker 1>It is a lot of fun. I've seen it, Joel.

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:48.439
<v Speaker 4>It's a lot of fun.

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>And you go through many of the things he said

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>in the past, the contradictions, you expose them, You expose

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the astonishing store of how he kind of shifted from

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>politics into First of all, he had his attempt with

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Tip of Gore to be the great censor of all

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.280
<v Speaker 1>rock and roll. When that didn't work, he stumbled across

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:16.240
<v Speaker 1>climate change and the fascinating Joel tell us a little

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>bit about that relationship that he kind of had with

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the professor from his university that he always cites.

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:24.760
<v Speaker 4>Tell us that story.

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I went back and looked that since Harvard professor

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 12>Roger Ravel he had at Harvard University, and when al

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 12>Gore came on the scene and produced a book called

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<v Speaker 12>Earth in the Balance nineteen ninety two, was kind of

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 12>an environmental manifesto, saying that mankind has to reorganize itself

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 12>with central planning to adopt all these carbon policies because

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 12>the Earth will end, you know, in five or ten

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 12>years if we don't do what he says. So I

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 12>went back to the archives of Roger Ravel, and I

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 12>found that Roger Ravel, his professor, did not agree with

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 12>anything Gore said about the climate roderivel He just took measurements.

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 12>Rogerveil took measurements and asked questions, and then Gore came

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 12>along and politicized his work, claiming the whole premise of

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:14.839
<v Speaker 12>climate sciences, there's too much carbon in the atmosphere and

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 12>we're all going to die if we don't cut the

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:20.320
<v Speaker 12>amount of carbon. Well, I did more research and I

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 12>found well, since I realized his information did not come

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 12>from the Harvard professor, where did it come from? And

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.319
<v Speaker 12>I found that Gore went to Divinity School with these

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 12>radical environmental professors in nineteen seventy one, and he was

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 12>forced to read as part of the curriculum this book

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 12>called Our Plundered Planet. From the nineteen forties. The theory

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 12>was the Earth is pristine, it's perfect, and mankind is

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 12>ruining the Earth by cutting down forests and using fossil fuels,

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 12>and we're all going to die. So I found that

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 12>Gore actually plagiarized this book to write Earth in the Balance.

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.240
<v Speaker 12>But instead of saying that he got his climate science

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:03.240
<v Speaker 12>from his wacky ban divinity school professors and from this book,

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 12>we tried to mainstream the science by claiming it came

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 12>out of this Harvard professor. So this blows the lid

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 12>off of all the climate movement. Because we find out

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 12>carbon is only one third of one percent of gas

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 12>in the atmosphere. You could double or triple it and

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 12>it would all be absorbed by plants. It's plant food.

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 12>Plants will grow taller, there'll be green deserts. We need

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 12>more carbon, not less. So I think it destroys the

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 12>entire climate science political movement and all the billions and

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 12>trillions of dollars that governments are spending on it. And

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 12>that's why we're coming to Australia to do a screening

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 12>tour because climate politics is so extreme in Australia. We're

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:48.240
<v Speaker 12>going to be in Brisbane, also in Sydney at the

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 12>Theodorett of the New South Wales Parliament in Melbourne and

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 12>also at the Parliament House in Canberra. We're screening this

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:57.240
<v Speaker 12>film and I'm going to be talking with John Ruddick

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:01.240
<v Speaker 12>about the real climate science that I've exposed in this film.

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, good luck getting our climate change Minister Chris Bowen

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 3>along to a screening. You'll probably having sort of a

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 3>meltdown once he knows you're going to be there. But

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 3>this climate activism has made our Gore very rich. Is

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 3>one awards is one awards for his movie, and there

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 3>seems to be really not much accountability for all these

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:30.760
<v Speaker 3>catastrophes doomsday predictions that he made on film that haven't eventuated.

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Why isn't he a figure of universal mockery for this

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 3>craziness that he said was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, he is the godfather of the claimant movement, and

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 12>that's why I went back and looked at his history

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 12>and I knew him personally because I worked with him,

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 12>and Al Gore was not that smart of a guy.

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 4>He kind of was.

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.840
<v Speaker 12>He was told and raised by his parents to become

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 12>president one day. The problem is he didn't have a

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 12>personality for politics and didn't have any care arristhma, so

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 12>he felt he needed issues to gain popularity so he

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 12>could be elected president. He started out when I worked

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.240
<v Speaker 12>with him, he was into arms control. He made himself

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:13.359
<v Speaker 12>an arms control expert. When Regan won the Cold War

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 12>and that issue was over, he adopted environmentalism and came

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 12>up with this radical theory of an apocalypse that if

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 12>you don't do what he says, we're all going to

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 12>die in five or ten years. That was nineteen ninety two.

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 12>Of course, the whole global warming thing. Of course it

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 12>started as global warming, remember, but the Earth kept getting colder,

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:36.720
<v Speaker 12>so in about two thousand and eight change it's climate change,

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 12>so that any normal seasonal weather they could say, oh,

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 12>well that's climate change. So no, they have not held

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 12>out Gore accountable for all this malfeasance. And I expose

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 12>the very core of the idea of the climate movement

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 12>is we have to reduce carbon. Well, it turns out

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 12>carbon does not affect the weather. The weather and temperatures

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:01.879
<v Speaker 12>are affected by the tilt of the earth, sunspot, the oceans, volcanoes.

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 12>We need more carbon and not less, and that's what

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:05.720
<v Speaker 12>you learn about in this film.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic. Joel Gilbert can't wait to see the film can't

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 1>wait to see you there at Seapack, and let's get

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 1>lots of people to Canra to go and see the

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 1>film because that's where it's needed. Most fantastic, Thanks so much,

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Joel Gilbert.

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:21.879
<v Speaker 4>And yes, that will be at Seapack next week.

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 1>We'll see you there. We'll be there, Rita James and

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I now speaking of all things climates, Rita, I was

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 1>fascinated to see that. Finally. I never thought it would happen.

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 4>The characters who threw the soup over the.

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Van Goth painting have gone to jail for a couple

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:40.879
<v Speaker 1>of years, and the judge was.

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 4>Not impressed that they were saving the planet. Was not impressed.

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 3>And this wasn't their first bit of activism. Let's be clear.

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 3>So these are extremists, and that's what they are. They're

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 3>climate cultists. They think the world's going to end. They

0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 3>and what they are pushing, if they actually were successful,

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 3>would plunge us into darkness, literal darkness and worse, would

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 3>completely decimate our living standards. And it's insanity. And it's

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 3>good to see that. It's going to be a little

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 3>bit of a counter accountability for the lawlessness we've seen.

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 3>But another couple of crazies have decided, well, we're going

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 3>to honor their sacrifice going to prison by throwing more

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 3>was it soup?

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 4>What have they thought?

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Another? They found another van go painting, and they went

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and through their soup all over there worry people in

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 1>prison de.

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 9>Marg an energy oiling God, something which is now a

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 9>government policy after sustained.

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 1>It's talked about friends, colorless.

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<v Speaker 9>Headlines and the result in political pressure future generations from

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 9>regard these prisoners are conscience to be on.

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:05.280
<v Speaker 13>The right side of history.

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<v Speaker 1>Now reta, these people are idiots, basically, that's one of

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the ones who was arrested released a statement. They're idiots,

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 1>but they're they're gullible fools. But I blame as I

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:21.400
<v Speaker 1>always do, the teachers and the politicians who have allowed

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:22.320
<v Speaker 1>kids to grow.

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 4>Up believing this garbage, and the parents.

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>This girl, Phoebe, one of the ones who's off to

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 1>prison for two years, says, my choice today is who

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 1>accept whatever sentences I received with a smile, knowing that

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I've found peace in doing what I can to prevent

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>wait for it, countless millions of innocent.

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:40.720
<v Speaker 4>People suffering and die.

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.839
<v Speaker 1>So what Joel Gilbert was just saying there about the

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>climate change doomsday cult. This is the victims of that cult,

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Innocent kids, young girls who bought into this garbage.

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 4>It's as bad and as dangerous as.

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Any religious cult. These people are throwing away their lives.

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:02.880
<v Speaker 1>They're comparing themselves to Gandy and Mandela and Pincursed and

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:05.799
<v Speaker 1>so on. They are fools, they are stupid, and they

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>are simply as you said, Rita, if we listen to them,

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the world would be plunged into a very dark place.

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 3>Indeed, it is religious zelotry, that's what it is. And

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 3>when you actually hear them talk, it is like they're brainwashed.

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 3>They're in a cult that are completely divorced from reality.

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:28.440
<v Speaker 3>And the sad thing is that we have governments across

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 3>the world spooked by this craziness and setting policies to

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:35.319
<v Speaker 3>try to appease precisely these characters. And you saw when

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 3>that latest vision of that artwork being attacked, the cries

0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:44.480
<v Speaker 3>from the people there to disgust. And at some point

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:46.719
<v Speaker 3>someone's going to take matters into their own hands. I'm

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 3>not advocating for this, but you saw people yelling at them.

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 3>The next one might tackle one of those people to

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 3>stop them trying to damage artwork, and we are going

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 3>to see something happen that we don't want to see

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 3>happen because people are sick of this lawlessness. They're sick

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 3>of these cultures who feel entitled to do whatever they

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 3>feel because they've been led to believe that they're saving millions,

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 3>that there's some sort of martyrs.

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's not only being spooked to you, Rita.

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>You say that governments are spooked by it, but governments

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 1>are pushing this agenda. I'll be going into this in

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>a second. But Penny Wong, you know at the United

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Nations started banging on about rising sea levels into Vaalu

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and all this nonsense.

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm in a complete farce.

0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 1>How stupid, how this undergraduate mindset has infused our politicians

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:37.759
<v Speaker 1>to such an extent that they are, as you say,

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 1>setting policy along these lines while we're talking about the

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:44.520
<v Speaker 1>stupidity of the Albanesi government and endless topic one which

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 1>we could go on about for hours and hours. And

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 1>in fact, we do negative gearing reta negative gearing. Albo

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Albou decided he wasn't going to do negative gearing, but

0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>he was or something rather than Jim Chalmers was modeling

0:48:58.200 --> 0:48:58.799
<v Speaker 1>negative gearing.

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 4>What seriously, this funcship got to go.

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 1>We've got to get rid of them.

0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 3>These Well, this was a very interesting week. It was

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:08.760
<v Speaker 3>a rough week for the Albanezy government because this issue

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 3>was the dominant issue domestically and they were completely at

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 3>a loss. One minute, they're saying there's no changes being proposed,

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 3>these are modeling. Then these considerations the Treasury have come

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 3>up with, we're not considering them. But then we find

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 3>out from Jim Chalmers that he tasked Treasury to look

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 3>at scaling back the treasury that by themselves and just

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 3>have fun with these model and it is just so

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 3>mindlessly stupid. We know labor is being waged on this

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 3>issue of housing by the Greens who are completely mad.

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:50.360
<v Speaker 3>What they're proposing would see the industry, Well, the industry

0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 3>is already under pressure. We need a lot more housing.

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 3>We've got people coming in here at record numbers and

0:49:56.239 --> 0:50:01.320
<v Speaker 3>demand is greater than supply. That's just the reality. The

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 3>housing sector isn't producing as many new homes as it

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:07.919
<v Speaker 3>needs to to meet that demand. And there's a lot

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 3>of red tape, green tape, black tape that's frustrating that

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 3>and what's being talked about now would drive investors out

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 3>of that market, Mom and dad, investors who look at

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:20.799
<v Speaker 3>buying an investment property to have a little bit of

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 3>a financial security, perhaps be self funded in retirement. And

0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:27.920
<v Speaker 3>you drive those people out of the market, it is

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 3>going to be disastrous. It's going to be disastrous, particularly

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:34.880
<v Speaker 3>for renters, because the rental pool would diminish, prices go up.

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 3>We're already seeing that in Victoria because the land tax

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:41.360
<v Speaker 3>down there. They're the new laws they've brought in that

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 3>really tip the ledger in favor of renters when it

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 3>comes to a bunch of stuff. But in the long run,

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.960
<v Speaker 3>it's the renters who suffer because the rental market in

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:53.440
<v Speaker 3>in Victoria has just gone bersive.

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Well absolutely, I also feel sorry for that suburban Melbourne

0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that's going to end up with a Dan Andrews statue

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>smack bang in the little local park or wherever it is.

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Fat'll drive down property prices pretty quick. If you want

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:06.279
<v Speaker 1>a good laugh, look at all the memes on what

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:09.759
<v Speaker 1>the Dan Andrews' statue could look like. Love to show

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 1>them to you, but we can't. There you go. After

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the break, We're going to look at Nettunyahoo's incredible speech

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 1>at the end this week in a tick here on Outsiders. Hello,

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:26.439
<v Speaker 1>you're watching Outsiders with Rita Panahee and myself Rowan Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk this morning about three women, Three

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 1>women whose stupidity is, in my humble opinion, dangerous, even deadly. First,

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:37.879
<v Speaker 1>there's a young woman who rose to prominence some years

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 1>ago and was fated around the world by princes and popes,

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:47.640
<v Speaker 1>prime ministers, politicians and pop stars as the conscience of youth,

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the pin up girl of a generation of teal tinged

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:55.279
<v Speaker 1>teenage prima honors, and the voice of a caring and

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>compassionate young generation that the rest of the world, in

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:03.319
<v Speaker 1>particular the pay stale and male generation of older conservative

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:05.160
<v Speaker 1>leaders weirdly chose.

0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 4>To prostrate themselves before.

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Greta Thunburg, the scolding queen of climate change alarmism,

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:16.840
<v Speaker 1>with her medieval morality of how dare you puritanical preaching?

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:18.760
<v Speaker 4>Where is she now?

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Why?

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:21.000
<v Speaker 4>Here she was last week?

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<v Speaker 1>Now donning the garb of the most fundamental and intolerant

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<v Speaker 1>of all causes, as she dangerously, deceitfully and disingenuously links

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<v Speaker 1>her climate activism with good old fashioned anti Israel hatreds.

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<v Speaker 5>Ending Israel's genocide in Gaza and Israeli apartheid is a

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<v Speaker 5>climate justice issue. Israel is destroying palestin in lives, but

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<v Speaker 5>also destroying Palestine in lands and resources through its work

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<v Speaker 5>there and industries that pollute and destroy the environment.

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<v Speaker 6>We can't stand by and do nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's Greta today, as mad, bad and dangerous as

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<v Speaker 1>a cut snake. Her words have the effect, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>of fomenting anti Semitism and hatred of Jews in the

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<v Speaker 1>name of climate change, the nadea of fatuous undergraduate socialist

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<v Speaker 1>ideology of the sort that infuses our schools, our universities,

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<v Speaker 1>our media and our left wing politics. But Greta is

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<v Speaker 1>not alone. Have a listen to where this undergraduate socialist

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<v Speaker 1>dogma leads you. Here was a woman on the BBC's

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<v Speaker 1>Question Time the other evening bit fed up and sick

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<v Speaker 1>to death of hair in this Israel's right to defend itself.

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<v Speaker 1>What Israel is doing is barbaric. It is not in.

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<v Speaker 14>Defending itself defensive is when you do that, stoping somebody

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<v Speaker 14>attacking it?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that what Israel is really supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Simply throw up her hands in the wake of the

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<v Speaker 1>October seventh barbarities, the murders, the rapes, the beheadings, the kidnappings,

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<v Speaker 1>the killings of babies. No, of course, not Israel must

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<v Speaker 1>ensure that such barism can and never will occur again.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course the only way to do that is

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<v Speaker 1>to let me spell it out for the fools, by

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<v Speaker 1>defeating and annihilating the enemy, every single terrorist that threatens you.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no other choice. If someone comes at you

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<v Speaker 1>with deadly intent, announces their intention to destroy you and

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<v Speaker 1>your people, proclaims that they will attack you again and

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<v Speaker 1>again and again until you have been wiped off the

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<v Speaker 1>face of the earth, their words, not mine, then the

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<v Speaker 1>only response is to use every weapon, every opportunity, every

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<v Speaker 1>tactic at your disposal to completely eradicate that threat in

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<v Speaker 1>order to defend your people, your women, your babies, your borders,

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<v Speaker 1>your faith, and your nation for all time. Now. Some

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<v Speaker 1>dopey woman on a BBC chat show may be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get away with spouting drivel about ceasefires and the

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<v Speaker 1>poisonous doctrine of moral relativism. But alas she is not alone,

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<v Speaker 1>she is not alone voice. Indeed, such foolishness, such naivety,

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<v Speaker 1>and such UN a graduate gullibility drips out of every

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<v Speaker 1>pore of my third female candidate for the most dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>fool of the week, our own Foreign Secretary Penny Wong.

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<v Speaker 1>Here she is pontificating at the UN about her beloved

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<v Speaker 1>and completely unworkable and asinine two state solution for Israel

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<v Speaker 1>and Palestine.

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<v Speaker 14>Israel must comply with the binding orders of the International

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<v Speaker 14>Court of Justice, including to enable the provision of basic

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<v Speaker 14>services and humanitarian assistance at scale. Australia shares the frustration

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<v Speaker 14>of the great majority of countries more than seventy seven

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<v Speaker 14>years since this General Assembly adopted Resolution one eighth one,

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<v Speaker 14>a plan for two states side by side, one Jewish

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<v Speaker 14>one Palestinian. Seventy seven years later, that Palestinian state still

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<v Speaker 14>does not exist, long held out as the promise at

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<v Speaker 14>the end of a peace process that has ground to

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<v Speaker 14>a halt. The world cannot wait all contribute new ways

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<v Speaker 14>to break the cycle of conflict. Earlier this year, Australia

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<v Speaker 14>voted in the General Assembly and support of Palestinian aspirations

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<v Speaker 14>for full membership of the United Nations. We have sanctioned

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<v Speaker 14>Israeli extremely settlers and will deny anyone identified as an

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 14>extremist settler a visa to travel to Australia. But individual

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<v Speaker 14>country actions alone are not moving the dial. The international

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<v Speaker 14>community must work together to pave a path to lasting peace.

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<v Speaker 14>The world cannot keep hoping the parties will do this themselves.

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<v Speaker 14>We cannot allow any party to obstruct the prospect of peace.

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<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable. So there you have it, no recognition whatsoever. But

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<v Speaker 1>on numerous occasions, how many.

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<v Speaker 4>Occasions in these last seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Years, Israeli leaders have supported the creation of a Palestinian state,

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<v Speaker 1>only to be spurned time after time after time. Israel

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<v Speaker 1>has been attacked unilaterally by armed.

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<v Speaker 4>He's into fathers and terrorists.

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<v Speaker 1>Israel withdrew from Gaza in a Land for Peace deal

0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that delivered no peace, indeed only the horrors of last October,

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and is currently threatened by Iran's deadly proxies on six

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>different warfronts, including the eight thousand rockets fired by Heswela

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<v Speaker 1>at Israeli towns and villages. Disgracefully, Pennywong made a song

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<v Speaker 1>and dance about Australia sanctioning Israeli settlers, but no mention

0:57:28.240 --> 0:57:31.480
<v Speaker 1>of all the Ghazans we have simultaneously let in without

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<v Speaker 1>bothering with any adequate security checks.

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<v Speaker 4>What a farce.

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<v Speaker 1>Worse, Pennywog wants her and her like minded friends at

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<v Speaker 1>the UN to simply impose their own two state solution,

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<v Speaker 1>which would in effect create a permanent terror state and

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<v Speaker 1>a permanent state of terror on Israel's borders with United

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<v Speaker 1>Nations and Pennywog's legal blessing. And just to top it

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<v Speaker 1>all off, and just to show that she hasn't forgotten

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<v Speaker 1>that other great international challenge, Penny also used a UN

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<v Speaker 1>speech to floor into Greta style climate's credentials.

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<v Speaker 14>Of course, it's not just finance and unfair trade arrangements

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:15.040
<v Speaker 14>that threaten development. Climate change is causing more disasters, reversing

0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:20.280
<v Speaker 14>years of development gains overnight. Extreme weather threatens food and

0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:23.960
<v Speaker 14>water security with grave implications for global stability. By the

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<v Speaker 14>end of twenty twenty five, Australia will offer climate resilient

0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 14>dead causes in our sovereign loans and the groundbreaking Australia

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<v Speaker 14>to valou Fallipili Union Treaty entered into force on the

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<v Speaker 14>twenty eighth of August. Friends. It is the first time

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<v Speaker 14>two nations have recognized in a legally binding treaty continuing

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<v Speaker 14>statehood and sovereignty, notwithstanding the impacts of sea level rise.

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<v Speaker 1>Penny one Greta Thunberg in a pink suit. The arrogance, naively,

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:59.600
<v Speaker 1>naivety and sheerhootspa were breathtaking in her speech, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course was surrounded by like minded lefties at the UN,

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<v Speaker 1>including our old favorite mister The era of global boiling

0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:12.680
<v Speaker 1>has arrived. Antonio Geterus himself always hungry for the hyperbowl

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<v Speaker 1>sound bites. Hell is breaking lues in Lebanon. Oh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the UN we're very quick to condemn Israel brilliantly defending

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<v Speaker 1>itself against Hesbola with the targeted pager explosions, which of

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<v Speaker 1>course were designed only to kill you if you were

0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a terrorist, but not according to the UN.

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<v Speaker 15>I share the sectory of gender's deep alarm at the

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<v Speaker 15>reports of a large number of communication devices exploding across Lebanon.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm appulled by the breadth and impact of the attacks

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<v Speaker 1>on seventeen and eighteen September in Lebanon on civilians has wella.

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<v Speaker 14>Is an integral component of Lebanese political and social fabric.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, of course, when it came time for Israeli

0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yahoo to speak. Half of the

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<v Speaker 1>Deliate's all walked out of the forum. What a joke

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<v Speaker 1>and what a speech it actually was from Benjamin Yet Yahoo,

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<v Speaker 1>Primnist of Israel.

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<v Speaker 13>I didn't intend to come here this year. My country

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<v Speaker 13>is at war fighting for its life. But after I

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<v Speaker 13>heard the lies and slanders leveled at my country by

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<v Speaker 13>many of the speakers at this podium, I decided to

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<v Speaker 13>come here and set the record straight.

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<v Speaker 1>And set the record straight he did.

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<v Speaker 13>And here's the truth. Israel seeks peace, Israel yearns for peace.

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<v Speaker 13>Israel has made peace and will make peace again. Our

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<v Speaker 13>enemies seek not only to destroy us, they seek to

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<v Speaker 13>destroy our common civilization and returned all of us to

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<v Speaker 13>a dark age of tyranny and terror.

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<v Speaker 1>Tethnajo then spoke of the Biblical choice between a blessing

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<v Speaker 1>and a curse and pointed out how Donald Trump's Abraham

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<v Speaker 1>Accords had delivered the blessing of a potential historic alliance

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<v Speaker 1>between the Saudis and Israel, which had been scaffered by

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<v Speaker 1>the curse. Of October seventh.

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<v Speaker 13>Thousands of Iranian backed Tramasteris from Gaza burst into Israel

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<v Speaker 13>in pickup trucks on motorcycles, and they committed unimaginable atrocities.

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<v Speaker 13>They savagely murdered twelve hundred people. They raped and mutilated women,

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<v Speaker 13>They beheaded men, They burned babies alive, They burnt entire

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<v Speaker 13>families alive, babies, children, parents, grandparents, and scenes reminiscent of

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<v Speaker 13>the Nazi Holocaust.

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<v Speaker 1>The Israeli Prime Minister then spoke of the hellish horrors

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<v Speaker 1>endured by the hostages and their families, and the need

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<v Speaker 1>to bring them all home, and he issued this warning

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<v Speaker 1>to Iran.

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<v Speaker 13>I have a message for the tyrants of Tehran. If

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<v Speaker 13>you strike us, we will strike you. There is no place,

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<v Speaker 13>there is no place in Iran that the long arm

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<v Speaker 13>of Israel cannot reach. And that's true of the entire.

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<v Speaker 1>Biddleis Netanahu then went on taking his blessing and curse

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<v Speaker 1>analogy to compare what a Saudi Israeli alliance can bring

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<v Speaker 1>to the world in terms of a safe and secure

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<v Speaker 1>trading bridge between Asia and Europe, to the opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>the curse, the curse of the range In Terror regime

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<v Speaker 1>and its crescent of conflict.

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<v Speaker 13>On the one hand, a bright blessing a future of hope.

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<v Speaker 13>On the other hand, a dark future of despair.

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<v Speaker 1>And without mentioning Biden or Obama by name, bb is

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<v Speaker 1>a diplomat by trade, after all, Natanyah, who made this

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<v Speaker 1>critical point.

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<v Speaker 6>For too long, the world is appeased Iran.

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<v Speaker 13>It turns a blind eye to its internal repression, it

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<v Speaker 13>turns a blind eye to its external aggression. Well, that

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<v Speaker 13>appeasements must end, and that appeasement must end now.

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<v Speaker 1>Natinna who called on the world to help Israel stop

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<v Speaker 1>Iran's nuclear program for the sake of the peace and

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<v Speaker 1>security of the entire planet. That's how you save the planet, Penny,

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<v Speaker 1>not by fatuous net zero policies. Netanyah, who then explained

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<v Speaker 1>the extraordinary success the Israeli army has had destroying hamas

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<v Speaker 1>and its weapons at the same time as protecting to

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<v Speaker 1>an extent never ever seen before civilian populations, and explained

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<v Speaker 1>why amass can never be allowed to be part of

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding Gaza.

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<v Speaker 13>Imagine in a pulse war situation in World War two.

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<v Speaker 13>Imagine allowing the defeated Nazis in nineteen forty five to

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<v Speaker 13>rebuild Germany. It's inconceivable, it's ridiculous. It didn't happen. Then

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<v Speaker 13>it's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Ntanna, who seeks peace. Every Israeli seeks peace, but

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<v Speaker 1>not the phony un piece of wishful thinking wong or

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<v Speaker 1>global boiling guitarists and Gretathunburg, but a proper lasting piece.

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<v Speaker 6>This war can come to an end. Now.

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<v Speaker 13>All that has to happen is for Hamas to surrender,

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<v Speaker 13>lay down its arms, and release all the hostages. But

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<v Speaker 13>if they don't, But if they don't, we will fight

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<v Speaker 13>until we achieved victory, total victory.

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<v Speaker 6>There is no substitute for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Natanaho then reiterated how Hezbala have tyrannized Lebanon for decades,

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<v Speaker 1>destroying what was once a beautiful country in this permanent conflict,

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<v Speaker 1>using civilian homes and schools to store and launch rockets, tunnels,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. He vowed Natanaho to push Hesbala back from

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<v Speaker 1>Israel's borders and return Israelis to their homes, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as restating that Israel is not at war with the

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<v Speaker 1>Lebanese people, it's a war with Hisbolla. Finally, he returned

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<v Speaker 1>to his key point, the success and potential for peace

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<v Speaker 1>of his and Donald Trump's Abraham Accords.

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<v Speaker 13>But to truly realize the blessing of a new Middle East,

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<v Speaker 13>we must continue the path we paved.

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<v Speaker 6>With the Abraham Accords four years ago.

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<v Speaker 13>Above all, this means achieving a historic peace agreement between

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<v Speaker 13>Israel and Saudi Arabia.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's all hope and pray for all our sakes that

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<v Speaker 1>they succeed. These were the words of a visionary leader,

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<v Speaker 1>who then went on at length to paint a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of what such an alliance would look like, with the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East prospering in trade and joint the ventures and

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<v Speaker 1>in peace.

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<v Speaker 13>The millions of Israelis have already flown back and forth

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<v Speaker 13>across the Arabian Peninsula, over the skies of Saudi Arabia

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<v Speaker 13>to the Gulf countries. The trade, the tourism, the joint ventures,

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<v Speaker 13>the peace, the peace.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this was the speech of a great world statesman

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<v Speaker 1>seeking to bring peace to one of the most fraught

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<v Speaker 1>places on the planet. And we should all be getting

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<v Speaker 1>behind that quest for peace. Can Netta who do it? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>But only enough if enough of the world's leaders share

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<v Speaker 1>his vision, not the undergraduate silly kumbay our socialism of

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<v Speaker 1>guitarists and wong and they're pointless pontificating that the pragmatic,

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<v Speaker 1>moral and strong leadership of people like Benjamin Netanyahoo and

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump where military forces used when and where necessary

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<v Speaker 1>to eradicate evil. And to round it all off, Netanyahu

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<v Speaker 1>launched into a terrade against the United Nations itself, describing

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<v Speaker 1>the moral stain of the anti Semitic bile of this

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<v Speaker 1>global body. We all fund that has passed twice as

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<v Speaker 1>many condemnations against Israel in the last decade alone and

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<v Speaker 1>all the other nations combined.

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<v Speaker 13>So all the speeches you heard today, all the hostility directed.

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<v Speaker 6>At Israel this year, it's not about Gaza. It's about Israel.

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<v Speaker 13>It's always been about Israel, about Israel's very existence. And

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<v Speaker 13>I say to you, until Israel, until the Jewish State

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<v Speaker 13>is treated like other nations, until this anti Semitic swamp

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<v Speaker 13>is drained, the UN will be viewed by fair minded

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<v Speaker 13>people everywhere as nothing more than a contemptuous farce.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't have put it better myself, Nothing more than a

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<v Speaker 1>contemptuous farce. I think that pretty much sums it up accurately.

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<v Speaker 1>And thanks to labor, the Greens, the Teals and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>Australia shamefully plays a leading role in that contemptuous farce. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>joining us now is freedom activist Monica Smith. Monica sued

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria Police after she was arrested three times within three

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<v Speaker 1>hours at an anti lockdown rally in Melbourne. Is back

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<v Speaker 1>during the height of the whole COVID nonsense. Back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. In a victory for freedom, Monica I an

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<v Speaker 1>unlawful arrest case against the police. She represented her self

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<v Speaker 1>alone in court. Buttsch, Monica, it comes with a sting

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<v Speaker 1>in the tail. Congratulations on winning your unlawful arrest case.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does come with a sting in the tail.

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<v Speaker 1>What tell us about that? Tell us what it was

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<v Speaker 1>like to win and the position you and I now

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<v Speaker 1>find yourself in.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I do.

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<v Speaker 16>Want the lasting memory of this story to be that

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<v Speaker 16>I won, I proved my point, I got public vindication.

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<v Speaker 16>I was unlawfully arrested twice. However, the clincher is that

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<v Speaker 16>I have to pay the cost of the other side,

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<v Speaker 16>which is upwards of two hundred and fifty thousand, and

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<v Speaker 16>that is because I refuse to take a deal during mediation,

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<v Speaker 16>because I wanted public vindication. Now, the mediation deal was

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<v Speaker 16>fifteen thousand dollars. It did not come with a public apology.

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<v Speaker 16>I tried to get one of those to avoid going

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<v Speaker 16>to trial. Anyway, the judge awarded me only four thousand

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<v Speaker 16>dollars for two unlawful arrests, and because I got I

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<v Speaker 16>offered less in damages after trial. The legal system sees

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<v Speaker 16>it as a loss, and so I have to pay

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<v Speaker 16>for winning my case.

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<v Speaker 1>So Monica tell us again. I mean, many viewers will

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<v Speaker 1>know it, but some won't. The story of that arrest,

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<v Speaker 1>why you were initially arrested during COVID, and why you

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<v Speaker 1>then went to jail for twenty two days and nights

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<v Speaker 1>Australia's first ever political prisoner.

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<v Speaker 16>Well, actually the jail time was a year after the

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<v Speaker 16>case that I just brought to the County Court recently.

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<v Speaker 16>But on October thirty first, the case that just happened,

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<v Speaker 16>I got arrested three times in one day. As a journalist,

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<v Speaker 16>I was doing my job. I had my work permits.

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<v Speaker 16>I kept telling them that I was working, but hey,

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<v Speaker 16>they didn't believe me, and I believe that I was

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<v Speaker 16>politically targeted and they didn't like that I was live

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<v Speaker 16>streaming to such a large audience.

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<v Speaker 9>Anyway, A year later in.

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<v Speaker 16>Exactly the same treatment. To be honest, I got punished again.

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<v Speaker 16>I got charged with two cases of incitement for inciting

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<v Speaker 16>people to break COVID restrictions, and I got given bail

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<v Speaker 16>conditions which would shut down.

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<v Speaker 9>My lucrative business at the time.

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<v Speaker 16>So, like I did a year before that, I said

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<v Speaker 16>no and I didn't sign.

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<v Speaker 9>The bail conditions.

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<v Speaker 16>So I went to prison for twenty two days in

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<v Speaker 16>solitary confinement for nothing because they dropped all the charges

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<v Speaker 16>and Rowan that's going to be the next court case

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<v Speaker 16>coming UPTA.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you talked about rejecting that pre trial offer and

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<v Speaker 3>pursuing this because you wanted that public acknowledgment that they

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<v Speaker 3>did the wrong thing. But given that now you have

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<v Speaker 3>this enormous bill two hundred thousand dollars, do you regret

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<v Speaker 3>pursuing this case.

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 16>I asked for a public apology to be attached with

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<v Speaker 16>the deal, and they refused. And even though I didn't

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<v Speaker 16>get an apology, RITA, winning your case is kind of

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<v Speaker 16>the same thing. It's a forced apology. I got public vindication.

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<v Speaker 16>It helped my reputation, It will help my reputation in

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<v Speaker 16>the future because people who saw that footage thought that

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<v Speaker 16>made I was a rebel, maybe I was a criminal,

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<v Speaker 16>and now they know that I wasn't and I was

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<v Speaker 16>unlawfully arrested.

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<v Speaker 9>So for me that was so important.

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<v Speaker 16>And it's really also critical to know that I am

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<v Speaker 16>appealing this I would say ridiculous cost order, not just

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<v Speaker 16>because I don't want to pay it, but because.

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<v Speaker 9>The message it sends to people is very very dangerous.

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<v Speaker 9>That if you're a.

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<v Speaker 16>Citizen and you have the guts to go all the

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<v Speaker 16>way and you represent yourself against a team of four lawyers,

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<v Speaker 16>two barristers, two solicitors, and you win your case, you're

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<v Speaker 16>still going to lose in the end anyway, So why

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<v Speaker 16>even bother trying to pursue justice? And that is a

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<v Speaker 16>very dangerous message, and I have to try to clear

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<v Speaker 16>it up.

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<v Speaker 9>So I am appealing no.

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<v Speaker 3>That I agree with, because yeah, it does tell the

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<v Speaker 3>average person just cop whatever happens, whether it's right or wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>The case that you're set is coming up next? Is

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<v Speaker 3>this the wrongful imprisonment? And what are you seeking there?

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<v Speaker 16>Well, I haven't completely organized my thoughts on that. We

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<v Speaker 16>haven't put in the statement of claim yet, and of

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<v Speaker 16>course I've been.

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<v Speaker 9>Obviously a little bit busy.

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<v Speaker 1>And one thing.

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<v Speaker 16>I've also learned from this last case Rita is to

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<v Speaker 16>not play all my cards online, not tell everyone everything

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<v Speaker 16>that's happening. So I'm going to keep my cards a

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<v Speaker 16>bit close.

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<v Speaker 9>To my chest on that one.

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<v Speaker 16>But I can tell you that part of me did

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<v Speaker 16>feel like not going to court over the twenty two

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<v Speaker 16>days in prison, after the experience I just had. But

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<v Speaker 16>then I reflected and realized that that's exactly what they

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<v Speaker 16>want people to do, to sit down, to shut up,

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<v Speaker 16>to take deals and just to do what they're told.

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<v Speaker 16>And so I thought, no, no, no, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 16>do the opposite.

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<v Speaker 9>So it is going to be a big deal.

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<v Speaker 16>However, if I got offered public vindication in a pre

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<v Speaker 16>trial deal and not an insulting amount of money for

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<v Speaker 16>twenty two days in solitary confinement, I would definitely consider

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<v Speaker 16>taking the deal Rita, as long as there is no

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<v Speaker 16>non disclosure agreement attached to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Monica, I'm in this extraordinary. When we look back

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<v Speaker 1>at COVID, it seems like a ghastly nightmare, but it

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<v Speaker 1>does have huge ramifications. You fought as a guess a

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<v Speaker 1>freedom fighter. If you like, there's our footage we love

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<v Speaker 1>playing there on the screen of the horrors that the

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Andrews police regime inflicted on Victorians. It's completely changed

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<v Speaker 1>your life, Monica. You know all these ongoing court cases etc.

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<v Speaker 1>We had yesterday a big rally for freed for against

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<v Speaker 1>the misinformation and disinformation laws in New South Wales, the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian federal laws that are being proposed combating misinformation disinformation,

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<v Speaker 1>big rally in Sydney. What are your thoughts on the

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<v Speaker 1>misinformation and disinformation debate.

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<v Speaker 16>Well, it's very triggering for me considering that I basically

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<v Speaker 16>did go to prison for a social media post and

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<v Speaker 16>then you see in the UK, you know, middle aged

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<v Speaker 16>women are going to prison for retweeting other people's tweets.

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<v Speaker 16>It's a very dangerous place to be and I don't

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<v Speaker 16>want it to get any worse.

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<v Speaker 9>In Australia. However, the Parliament.

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<v Speaker 16>That we have at the moment put through the Digital

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<v Speaker 16>Idea d Bill without any debate that they're allowing, you know,

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<v Speaker 16>they're born Alive bill. They disregarded that, you know, so

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<v Speaker 16>I don't have much faith in Parliament to push back

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<v Speaker 16>on the Disinformation Misinformation Bill. So I'm concerned that it

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<v Speaker 16>will go through to some extent, and I hope that

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<v Speaker 16>the next government can do something about it. But I

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<v Speaker 16>would say to the people out there listening, you know sometimes.

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<v Speaker 9>You feel helpless. You know what can you do to

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<v Speaker 9>stop it?

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<v Speaker 16>Because we haven't been successful in really being able to

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<v Speaker 16>stop dangerous bills recently. The best thing that I think

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<v Speaker 16>we can do personally is to stop self censoring ourselves,

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<v Speaker 16>because if we can't depend on the government to do

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<v Speaker 16>the right thing, we have to depend on each other.

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<v Speaker 16>So when you feel that little niggle in your head,

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<v Speaker 16>in your conscience and in your throat or wherever you

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<v Speaker 16>get that niggle to say what you think, to say

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<v Speaker 16>what's on your mind, I'm telling you that that is

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<v Speaker 16>what you can do to fight censorship.

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<v Speaker 9>Just say what you think.

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<v Speaker 1>Monica Smith.

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<v Speaker 4>Always great to chat to you, and you're a great

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<v Speaker 4>role model there for Australians who don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Want the States telling you what to think and feel.

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<v Speaker 1>And our first political prisoner unbelievable. Monica Smith, thanks so

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<v Speaker 1>much for coming on Outsiders. After the break, we'll speak

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<v Speaker 1>to a British Iranian lawyer about the escalating conflict in

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East and her personal journey in a tick

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching Outsiders with Rita Panahi with no James isn't here?

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<v Speaker 17>Oh what what?

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<v Speaker 4>Where's Jans?

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<v Speaker 1>And myself Rowandan thank you so much for watching us

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<v Speaker 1>every Sunday morning. We certainly enjoy your company. Now this

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<v Speaker 1>is a real treat for all Outsiders fans. Someone I've

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<v Speaker 1>been following on Twitter now for a while. She's got

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<v Speaker 1>great opinions, terrific ideas on everything that's happening in the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East, very passionate about it. She's British Iranian, she's

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<v Speaker 1>a lawyer and an activist. Elka love Bon, Elka, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Outsiders. Really pleased to have you here on Outsiders.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been very strong on social media about everything that's

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<v Speaker 1>been happening in the Middle East, but particularly with reference

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<v Speaker 1>to Iran. You wrote a very passionate piece about how

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<v Speaker 1>for many years you'd been very pro Palestinian and you

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<v Speaker 1>were astonished after October seventh, how you found that so

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<v Speaker 1>many people, particularly in Britain, were suddenly supporting appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>be supporting her mass or certainly supporting certain aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>the pro Palestinian cause. You've argued against that very passionately

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<v Speaker 1>on British television just tell us first of all, Elka,

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit about yourself, your background, your Iranian background,

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<v Speaker 1>and why you are so passionate on the topic of

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean, you know, I am Iranian, My family

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<v Speaker 11>are from Iran. My parents left Iran, well, my mum's

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<v Speaker 11>family left Iran after the revolution where my mum's family

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<v Speaker 11>were executed, my aunt's husband more than thirteen people on

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<v Speaker 11>my mom's side alone, and then came to England, grew

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<v Speaker 11>up in England. I'm now an attorney in America. I

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<v Speaker 11>think it was you know, obviously knowing the background of

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<v Speaker 11>the Islamic regime in Iran and what it has done

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<v Speaker 11>to my country, what it has done to my people,

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<v Speaker 11>and you know, the system of propaganda and lies that

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<v Speaker 11>it hides behind enable it in order to enable itself

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<v Speaker 11>to continue doing what it's doing. And so when I

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<v Speaker 11>started to observe the patents that it had, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>kind of mimicked with its proxies in trying to achieve

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<v Speaker 11>the same thing in different parts of the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 11>it became very crucial to me, not only to speak

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<v Speaker 11>to the downfall of the Islamic regime in Iran, but

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<v Speaker 11>also to suppress a second, third, fourth, fifth Islamic republic

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<v Speaker 11>popping up all over the Middle East, while hiding behind

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<v Speaker 11>this red herring of resistance, which has absolutely nothing to

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<v Speaker 11>do with why they're acting.

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<v Speaker 3>Greta, the Iranian crown prince, the exiled crown Prince as

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<v Speaker 3>At Polavi, spoke just over a week ago about the

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<v Speaker 3>way to secure peace is to defeat the Iranian regime

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<v Speaker 3>by fighting has La Her mass these proxies. You're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to secure peace because Iran will just fund the

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<v Speaker 3>next terror group. How is that battle going to be fought?

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<v Speaker 3>Because the Iranian regime since the Islamic Revolution has just

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<v Speaker 3>stamped down on any protest, any attempt by the population

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<v Speaker 3>there to throw them out. How do you see that

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<v Speaker 3>in the next ten years. Is the Iranian regime under

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<v Speaker 3>any pressure? Could it?

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<v Speaker 7>For?

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<v Speaker 11>You know, it's not under enough pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 11>It's the reason that it's not under enough pressure is

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<v Speaker 11>because the way that the Western world and the peace

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<v Speaker 11>loving Middle Eastern world has approached the Islamic regime is

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<v Speaker 11>with appeasement. You know, if we just do diplomacy with

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<v Speaker 11>this regime, they'll stop doing xyz they'll stop taking Americans hostage,

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<v Speaker 11>they'll stop funding their proxies, they'll stop funding regional terror. Well,

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<v Speaker 11>it's been forty five years and it's very clear that

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<v Speaker 11>diplomacy doesn't work. And it's this very strategy of appeasement

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<v Speaker 11>that has promoted this kind of idea behind peace activism

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<v Speaker 11>in the West, especially amongst the West and Left, that

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<v Speaker 11>you know, if you just ignore the problem, or if

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<v Speaker 11>you just be nice to the monster, that they'll go away.

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<v Speaker 11>And it is this exact problem of this exact movement

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<v Speaker 11>of ignoring the problem and seeking peace with it that

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<v Speaker 11>has brought us to where we are, that has brought

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<v Speaker 11>us to October seventh, that has brought the Middle East

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<v Speaker 11>to its knees and at this pivotal moment where we're

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<v Speaker 11>on the precipice of an all out war. So what

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<v Speaker 11>we've clearly seen is that this strategy of appeasement and

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<v Speaker 11>diplomacy does not bring us to peace. What it actually

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<v Speaker 11>does is bring us to war, because you cannot be

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<v Speaker 11>tolerant be intolerant. So absolutely, the Islamic regime in Iran

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<v Speaker 11>has got to go since there hasn't been enough pressure

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<v Speaker 11>on the regime. Now you see that Israel is targeting Herzbola,

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<v Speaker 11>which is essentially it's crown jewel, it's golden child, right,

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<v Speaker 11>it's proxy, and without that, the regime is going to

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<v Speaker 11>be significantly weakened. So in conjunction with the weakening of

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<v Speaker 11>its proxies in the Middle East, the Western World, and

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<v Speaker 11>you know, similarly situated peace loving Middle Eastern countries near

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<v Speaker 11>to unite in putting pressure on this Islamic regime and

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<v Speaker 11>supporting the Iranian freedom fighters from within Iran to overthrow

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<v Speaker 11>the regime.

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<v Speaker 1>So Rita as well has a very similar upbringing to

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<v Speaker 1>your own, Elika. She grew up first in the States

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<v Speaker 1>and then moved to Australia. Her parents Iranian as well,

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<v Speaker 1>fled from the revolution. What do you, through your family

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<v Speaker 1>connections or so on, do you think the Iranian people

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<v Speaker 1>are hungry to see the end of the iotolers? Oh?

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<v Speaker 11>Absolutely absolutely, and you can see that just through the

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<v Speaker 11>sheer scale of their protests, you know, And if anybody

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<v Speaker 11>has any doubts about that, I mean, first of all,

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<v Speaker 11>we have surveys that show that well over ninety percent

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<v Speaker 11>of the people inside Iran are against the regime and

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<v Speaker 11>ninety nine percent in the Diascra But if you even

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<v Speaker 11>had any question about the legitimacy of the surveys, you

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<v Speaker 11>can look at the very structured and systematic protests, especially

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<v Speaker 11>from the time of the Woman Life Freedom movement, where

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<v Speaker 11>in Tehran, for example, the store closures to protest the regime.

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<v Speaker 11>There was one hundred percent store closures in Tehran in

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<v Speaker 11>protest of this regime. Not only that, but the oil

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<v Speaker 11>workers were going on strike in protests. Right, So people say, well, oh,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, we shouldn't be sanctioning the regime because it's

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<v Speaker 11>harming the Iranian people. While you can see that the

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<v Speaker 11>Iranian people are quite literally sanctioning themselves. They are economically

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<v Speaker 11>sanctioning themselves despite the dire condition that they're in because

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<v Speaker 11>of their hunger and desperation to get rid of this regime.

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<v Speaker 11>And so that's why it's never been more important to

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<v Speaker 11>support the Iranian people in overthrowing the regime.

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<v Speaker 3>And how do you say the upcoming US election end

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<v Speaker 3>what that will mean for this Iranian regime because we've

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<v Speaker 3>say dramatically different approaches from the Obama, Biden and Harris

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<v Speaker 3>administrations compared to what we saw under four years under

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 11>Correct, And you know, the reality is that we know

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<v Speaker 11>that the Democrats have a history of appeasing terrorist regimes,

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<v Speaker 11>to put it quite bluntly, So what's going to have

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<v Speaker 11>to happen at this juncture is that the Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 11>Kamala Harris's campaign is going to have to vocally denounce

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<v Speaker 11>this commitment to appeasement with this regime. If you know,

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<v Speaker 11>this campaign is going to be taken seriously. You know,

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<v Speaker 11>her national security advisor Philip Gordon has written a book

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<v Speaker 11>about advocating against regime change in the Middle East, and

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<v Speaker 11>you know, Waltz has also previously advocated for diplomacy with

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<v Speaker 11>these regimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what we need to be.

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<v Speaker 11>Hearing now from these campaigns is that they have no

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<v Speaker 11>intention of appeasing the regime or doing diplomacy with the regime.

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<v Speaker 11>Because you know, I call this period of time the

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<v Speaker 11>last appeasement. You think that you have another four more

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<v Speaker 11>years of appeasement and nothing's going to happen. This could

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<v Speaker 11>be the very last segment of appeasement. Before you know it,

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<v Speaker 11>it's too late to come back. So if we are

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<v Speaker 11>going to see the incumbency of Kamala Harrison the upcoming election,

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<v Speaker 11>we're going to have to know well ahead of time

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<v Speaker 11>that she will commit to not appeasing this regime, and

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<v Speaker 11>that's what we have yet to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'd like see Donald Trump. I think in the

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<v Speaker 1>One White House would be my that would be takeout

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<v Speaker 1>from that.

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<v Speaker 4>Elika Lebon.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to chat to you. Thanks so much for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on Outsiders. I hope we can get you on again

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<v Speaker 1>and I urge people to follow you on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>You do some terrific posts there. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>to speaking to Outsiders this morning. Thanks so much, Elika Lebon.

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<v Speaker 1>There from the States after the break. Canberra Clown Show

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<v Speaker 1>in a tick, roll up, roll up, step right this way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the whackiest show on earth.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the Canberra Clown Show.

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<v Speaker 1>As we know, our favorite comedy clown, Alboso loves to

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<v Speaker 1>steal his act, sorry, draw his inspiration from classic American

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<v Speaker 1>comedy acts such as this one wacky turn of the

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<v Speaker 1>century West Wing joker Donnie Rumsfeld.

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<v Speaker 18>There are things we know we know, we also know

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<v Speaker 18>there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know

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<v Speaker 18>there are some things we do not know, but they're

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<v Speaker 18>also unknown unknown. It's the ones we don't know we

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<v Speaker 18>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Brilliant and this week Alboso came up with his own

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<v Speaker 1>version of that classic side splitting act called I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing, not what I'm not doing? Laugh a minute, stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you rule out.

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<v Speaker 5>Changes to the hearing in property tasas this too?

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<v Speaker 1>On East?

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<v Speaker 17>Well, what we're doing is doing the legislation that we

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<v Speaker 17>had before the Senate. So I talk about what we're doing,

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<v Speaker 17>not what we're not doing. And what we're doing is

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<v Speaker 17>trying to get through that legislation.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is it Precisely Alboso has not been doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Why he's not been asking Treasury to model changes to

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<v Speaker 1>negative gearing and capital gains because the nation's going broke, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>not going broke. That's what he's been not doing. Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>Treasury officials are bright enough to understand that what they

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<v Speaker 1>are doing is what they are not doing, because well.

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<v Speaker 4>They're just so full of ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't help themselves coming up with ideas they are

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<v Speaker 1>not coming up with. But just to confirm from your government,

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<v Speaker 1>has us Treasury for more?

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<v Speaker 17>No, I didn't. I didn't confirm that Treasury. I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 17>like other departments to a range of proposals policy ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they do. Yes, it's just the boffins coming

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<v Speaker 1>up with ideas all by themselves, nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Alboso and charmers. But hang on, hasn't albo pulled this

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<v Speaker 1>stunt once before? Yes? Indeed, those with long memories will

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<v Speaker 1>know that he has after promising the same thing about

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<v Speaker 1>changes to your super annuation. You know, they're just ideas,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with us, and we're never going to

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<v Speaker 1>do them anyway, They'll never happen. And then hey, presto,

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<v Speaker 1>they did happen.

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<v Speaker 4>What a magician.

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<v Speaker 15>Hamish. A whole range of body he's including the Gratton

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<v Speaker 15>Institute and others, have put out various ideas in this debate.

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<v Speaker 15>They're the ones that are out there on the debate.

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<v Speaker 15>We've had no changes. We're not here announcing changes today.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm announcing the earnings on superbalances above three million dollars

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<v Speaker 15>will have a concessional rate of thirty percent rather than

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<v Speaker 15>fifteen percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Brilliant, just like that. Meanwhile, not to be outdone, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>favorite energy and climate clown, Chris Bowen Bobo Bowen took

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<v Speaker 1>to social media this week to demonstrate that you can

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<v Speaker 1>recycle his horrible windmills into equally horrible wind mills shoes, or,

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<v Speaker 1>as one wag put it, by satirizing the footage into

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<v Speaker 1>clown shoes.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, I don't normally talk about the shoes I'm wearing

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<v Speaker 19>on social media, but these shoes are made from recycled

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<v Speaker 19>wind blades. Now, there's a myth out there that somehow

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<v Speaker 19>renewables can't be recycled, when in fact, around eighty five

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<v Speaker 19>percent of what's in a wind turbine can be recycled.

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<v Speaker 19>They may be made from aluminium, steel and copper, and

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<v Speaker 19>increasingly they're being recycled into floorboards and even shoes.

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<v Speaker 20>Your money, dear.

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<v Speaker 1>Interestingly, what Bobobo and forgot to mention was the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't need to wait too long to recycle

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<v Speaker 1>the wind turbines. Sometimes they do it all by themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>At least according to the Herald Sun, they do.

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<v Speaker 6>Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Farmers have been worn to watch out for sharp shards

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<v Speaker 1>of plastic flying off golden planes wind farm turbines. Victorian

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<v Speaker 1>farmers have been worn to take extra safety precautions at

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<v Speaker 1>their properties after sharp serrated edging began flying off the

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<v Speaker 1>state's new green energy wind turbines. End of quote is

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<v Speaker 1>if it's not hard enough being an Aussie farmer. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the windmills attacking you and your family on

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<v Speaker 1>your own land. And how are these windmills working out

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<v Speaker 1>for generations? An abundance of renewable energy for Australians. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>it appears that Proud Renewables in South Australia had to

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<v Speaker 1>switch on the diesel generations again this week, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's because the wind turbines failed to ensure enough power

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<v Speaker 1>to meet peak time demand. By the way, if anybody

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<v Speaker 1>wonders why the Albanezy government will be a one term

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<v Speaker 1>circus act and get unceremoniously dumped by the electorate at

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<v Speaker 1>the next election, just remember these fine words in the

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<v Speaker 1>run up to the last election.

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<v Speaker 17>Labor has real lasting plans for cheaper electricity, cheaper childcare,

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<v Speaker 17>cheaper mortgages.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, what was that again, Albo.

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<v Speaker 17>Cheaper electricity, cheaper mortgages, cheaper electricity, cheaper mortgages.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheaper electricity, cheaper mortgage sounds like misinformation to me. And

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of which, one of the clowns from the Canbra

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<v Speaker 1>Clown Show, who hasn't yet featured on this prestigious segment

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<v Speaker 1>is of course Michelle Roll and our communication minister.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh dear, gave me a bit of a fright there.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the minister who will ultimately be in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of what is and isn't the truth if her Combating

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<v Speaker 1>Misinformation and Disinformation Bill gets up. Interestingly, she's the same

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<v Speaker 1>woman who back in the day declared claims at hydroxychloroquin

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<v Speaker 1>could be a good prophylactic against COVID to be medical misinformation. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>only two weeks ago the results of a lengthy, double blind, randomized,

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<v Speaker 1>placebo controlled trial found in the National Library of Medicine

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<v Speaker 1>recorder that's hydroxychloroquin is safe and provides a moderate beneficial

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<v Speaker 1>effect in preventing COVID nineteen. In other words, what Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>Roland labeled medical misinformation now turns out to be medical information,

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<v Speaker 1>also known as the truth. The canbreckclown Show can't get

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<v Speaker 1>any sillier or scarier than that. What might fleet would

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<v Speaker 1>Max say about our misinformation Minister? Well, as we've told you,

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<v Speaker 1>Outsiders will be appearing at the SEAPAC twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>You will get those questions through. Now time for some

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<v Speaker 1>hyper Bowl rita. Even though Donald Trump has had two

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<v Speaker 1>assassination attempts against him, the Democrats don't get it. Have

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<v Speaker 1>a listened to this obscenity.

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<v Speaker 21>Then he just wouldn't be He was like a bug.

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<v Speaker 1>He just kept being there.

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<v Speaker 4>Who was like a like a bug right there, so

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<v Speaker 4>you felt.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh hmlarious. And then he got to Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>Year, Biden slamming his hands squashing the bug of.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump assassination attempts in as many months and they have not.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's nothing compared to some of the retric

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<v Speaker 3>we have heard from from the Democrats from their propaganda

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<v Speaker 3>in mainstream media, where they just continue to call Trump

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<v Speaker 3>a threat to democracy, a threat to the Republicans. This

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<v Speaker 3>is the US Secretary of Commerce.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just another lie, like how did we get here?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's extinguish him for good.

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<v Speaker 3>We have an answer.

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<v Speaker 14>We have a remarkably talented candidate, who is sincere, who's pragmatic,

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<v Speaker 14>who's open.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Done, extinguish him for good. That's what she said. Never

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<v Speaker 3>mind the lies afterwards about what a talented candidate. Paris

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<v Speaker 3>is in a break. The woman is completely out of

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<v Speaker 3>her depth, which was apparent again this week because she

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<v Speaker 3>did another interview. This is the first one she did

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<v Speaker 3>without any sort of a chaperone there. This is what's

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<v Speaker 3>with them holistic?

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<v Speaker 1>This was the holistic. Everything was holistic.

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<v Speaker 3>Kicked the one of the biggest leftist activists in the

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<v Speaker 3>US media. That's saying something. One of the real mad band,

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<v Speaker 3>She's of MSNBC, who was on record saying that she

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't have to answer questions Kmala Harris. If she doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to, she shouldn't have to because what are you

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<v Speaker 3>going to do? Vote for Trump? That's impossible, So why

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<v Speaker 3>should she even bother to do interviews. She was the

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<v Speaker 3>one who was hand picked, and yet despite the help

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<v Speaker 3>she tried to give Harris, she flounded. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>car crash in parts.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the New York Times said, can't do interviews.

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<v Speaker 3>She just repeats the same talking points being from a

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<v Speaker 3>middle class family talking about dreams aspirations, and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>ambitions and ambitions, aspirations and dreams, just vacuuous surface level platitudes,

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<v Speaker 3>no debt depth, no ability to answer the most simple

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<v Speaker 3>obvious questions.

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<v Speaker 1>If we had Kamala Harris here, the first question would

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<v Speaker 1>obviously be why have you let nearly half a million

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<v Speaker 1>convicted criminals, including thirteen thousand convict did murderers, homicide murderers,

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<v Speaker 1>basically convictive homicide into the United States, yet have listened

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<v Speaker 1>to Donald Trump on the issue.

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<v Speaker 22>Director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement confirms that more than

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<v Speaker 22>thirteen thousand illegal immigrants convicted of murder have been caught

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<v Speaker 22>at the border and then released into the United States.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a crime what she did. It's got to be criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no greater act of disloyalty than to extinguish the sovereignty.

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<v Speaker 6>Of your own nation. Then that's what she's done.

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<v Speaker 1>She's ruined donation, She's ruined donation. I mean, Trump's not

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<v Speaker 1>pulling any punishers now, Reider. He's accusing Biden and Harris

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<v Speaker 1>of destroying American sovereignty, on which they have They've let

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<v Speaker 1>nearly half a million convicted criminals into the nation.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean more than four hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five thousand, You said, thirteen thousand convicted of homicide, even

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<v Speaker 3>a bigger number convicted of things like serious sexual assault

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<v Speaker 3>released into the country just free roaming, doing god knows what.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, this is tantamount to treason. This is treason

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<v Speaker 3>against your people. As leaders of a country, your number

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<v Speaker 3>one priority should be the protection of your population, of

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<v Speaker 3>your citizens, and that have completely failed in that respect.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, they've gone out of their way to facilitate

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<v Speaker 3>this lawlessness, having pool factors where people are encouraged to

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<v Speaker 3>come and across that border illegally. And it's not an

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<v Speaker 3>accident that in every year of the Biden Harris administration

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<v Speaker 3>that have broken the record for illegal crossings. It is

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely out of control, and it has changed certain American cities,

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<v Speaker 3>changed perhaps forever. Trump is saying that he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>do these mass deportations, but that is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>very difficult to achieve. I'm not saying he's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to try. But it was also interesting this week we

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<v Speaker 3>saw some polling showing the percentage of Americans now who

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<v Speaker 3>support that border wall has sky and Kamala Harris is

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<v Speaker 3>now visiting the border and pretending to care about this

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<v Speaker 3>issue when in the past she's called these immigration officials,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, compared them to KKK. She has said that

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<v Speaker 3>illegal immigration isn't a crime, that illegal immigrants should have

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<v Speaker 3>free health care, the ones who get putting jails should

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<v Speaker 3>have access to taxpayer funded gender assignment surgery. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>her record in this area is abysmal. And now she's

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<v Speaker 3>pretending to be Donald Trump in a skirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Well astant seeing she's wandering around saying that she's going

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<v Speaker 1>to close the border or look after the border, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe the American people can be as stupid.

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<v Speaker 4>As the polls.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, I believe Donald Trump is going to win

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, and win big, because I think the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks we have just seen lie after lie

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<v Speaker 1>we have. I don't think the American people are buying this.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen more and more kids coming out in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>We've seen more and more Blacks, Hispanics, all.

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<v Speaker 1>The different demographics which traditionally have supported the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>just going no. There is because Trump is a cultural figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we saw all the eating cats songs and all

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of it. But that's funny, but it also

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<v Speaker 1>shows that the question of the board how they have

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<v Speaker 1>so completely trust him, as small towns across America have

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<v Speaker 1>got inundated with these immigrants who are taking you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who are wandering around with thousands of dollars they've been

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<v Speaker 1>given while poor people are suffering with not having enough

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<v Speaker 1>to eat and not having enough money just to pay

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<v Speaker 1>the groceries. America is going to rebel against this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to see a much bigger swing

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<v Speaker 1>to Trump than any of the poles are predicting.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my But the media campaign here, I have never

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<v Speaker 3>seen anything like it. I don't think I ever will

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<v Speaker 3>again in my life, the way the media has just

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<v Speaker 3>gone into campaign mode. In Unison, trying to memory hold

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<v Speaker 3>the last three and a half years, because even the

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<v Speaker 3>left wing media has been damning of Kamala Harris's performance

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<v Speaker 3>as VP. She's been variously described as you know, Biden's

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<v Speaker 3>greatest mistake and just being ineffective, being inept. They've just

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<v Speaker 3>completely memory hold that. It's now she's this leader.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people are stupid. Some people are stupid, but not everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Rowan is positive about her in so many media outlets.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking CNN, MSNBC, ABC, there's a lot of media outlets,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know their power is and what it used

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<v Speaker 3>to be, but they still have power. And there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people who are not that politically engaged who

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<v Speaker 3>might see that see on one hand, threat to democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, Well, let's have listened to this

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a vox pop This This is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>blacks for Trump speaking up for Trump, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>unusual demographic.

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<v Speaker 6>Have a listen.

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<v Speaker 21>Think those black people are trying to look for something different,

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<v Speaker 21>and a lot of us are waking up, especially black men,

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<v Speaker 21>and we're waking up to what the Democrat Party has

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<v Speaker 21>been doing to us for so many years. You can

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<v Speaker 21>see what Biden is doing right now making promises, but

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<v Speaker 21>in reality, nothing is changing. We've been hearing hope and

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<v Speaker 21>change for a long time now and there hasn't been

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<v Speaker 21>a real hope and change at the ground level.

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<v Speaker 15>President Trump is the only person that can get the

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<v Speaker 15>job done here here.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the only person who getting the job done, and

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<v Speaker 1>he will get the job done. That's it for Outside

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<v Speaker 1>of Sarithro and I what fun we've had the child

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<v Speaker 1>us who was missing James. That was it. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you next Sunday with James at Sea Pack Live where

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<v Speaker 1>they're What a show that's going to be. You do

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<v Speaker 1>not want to miss it, whether you're there or whether

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<v Speaker 1>they're watching on Telly.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see you next Sunday for Outside of his life