WEBVTT - Sharri | 20 August 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:03.320 Live on Sky News. 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:05.559 This is Sharry. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:08.280 Good Evening. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:13.080 Welcome to the show tonight bombshell revelations about how Palestinian 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:18.360 visas were issued without any manual checks at all. Security 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.920 insiders tell me visitor visas have been approved in an 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:28.520 automated process, with intelligence agencies later scrambling those exclusive details 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:29.120 in a moment. 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:30.920 The Prime Minister. 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:35.959 Today under pressure over questions around national security. Shadow Immigration 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.520 Minister Dan Tian will be on the show a bit 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.720 later and will cross live to the US after the 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:46.240 first day of the Democratic National Convention. I'll get Republican 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:50.160 US Acting Attorney General Matthew Whittaker's take on the star 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:54.880 studded show later on, But first tonight to our exclusive 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:59.840 revelation that visas to Palestinians have been approved without any 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:05.399 manual security checks at all. Concerned security insiders told me 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:09.480 today that visitor visas have been approved for Gazans in 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:15.080 an automated process. This has left intelligence agencies later scrambling 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.840 to ensure that none pose a risk to national security. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.440 This shocking revelation comes as figures show Australia is taking 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:28.240 more Palestinians from Gaza than almost anywhere in the developed world, 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:33.080 and far more than surrounding Islamic countries. Yet the Albanezi 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:38.840 government security process is weaker than other nations. Data shows 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.720 Australia has issued visas to two nine hundred and twenty 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.679 two Palestinians, one thy five hundred are already in the country. 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:54.040 By contrast, Japan, Sweden, Switzerland, Norway and Spain were among 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:59.600 thirty five countries not to take in any Palestinians since 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:04.400 octob seven. Of our five Eyes allies, the US accepted 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:07.760 only seventeen one hundred and sixty eight to the UK, 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.760 twenty seven to New Zealand, and forty one to Canada. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:17.880 Neighboring Iraq, Syria and Saudi Arabia have taken in none, 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:23.360 according to data compiled by the Coalition, and Spain is fascinating. 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.400 It's one of the leading pro Palestinian countries politically, it's 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:32.560 already recognized Palestine as an independent country. Yet it's taken 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:37.240 in no Palestinians since October seven. And there's a reason. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:42.480 The intense security risk. It's something the powerful chair of 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:46.280 the United States Congressional Foreign Affairs Committee spoke to me 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:50.720 about on Thursday. Michael McColl said that her mask sympathizers 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.639 could be ticking time bombs. 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:58.639 You have to properly vet individuals before you bring them 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:03.080 in to your country, otherwise you could be bringing in, 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:08.600 you know, ticking time bonds, hamas or other terrorists that 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:10.560 could cause problems. 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:16.360 Now, these guasans were given visitor visas, as ad Husick said, 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.880 because it's faster. Well Inside has told me today that 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:23.680 the visitor visa process is clunky and out of date. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:29.280 It involves an online questionnaire where an electronic assessment classifies 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:30.639 people into. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.040 Different risk categories. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.240 There would be a ping an alert if a person's 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.920 name hits a watch list, an Interpol red notice or 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:44.160 Australia's Movement Alert list. But unless someone's name is flagged 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.640 on a watch list, then they're not referred for a 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:53.080 manual security assessment, no manual checks. I'm told there's a 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.280 bias in the system to grant the visa because these 0:03:56.360 --> 0:04:01.280 visas are usually for people visiting family members, not for 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:02.680 people coming from. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.120 A terrorist hotspot. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.960 If there's no red flag based on someone's name or 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.880 their own answers to the online questionnaire, then the visa 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:16.159 is automatically granted. And this can happen as we know 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.680 in as little as one hour. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:20.000 Now. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.840 I asked Home Affairs about this today. They said they 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:26.360 couldn't respond to my questions until tomorrow, and I'll bring 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.680 you their answers if I have them tomorrow night. But 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.599 we know that a visa was granted in just one 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.640 hour after an online application filled out by this man 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:41.320 am Endlan for his mother. And as you know, DEFAT 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:45.799 officials have admitted that visas are coming through in one hour. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.279 Taken look globally, a very large number of. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.960 Visit of visas would be done inside. And now. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.839 This follows the admission by the AZO Director General, Mike 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.520 Burgess that security checks for Palace Indians were only done 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.760 if certain triggers were established, and that was the line 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:10.920 that the Prime Minister misquoted and misled Australians over. Now 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:14.440 it's actually a fraudulent use of the visa system to 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.000 give Gazans visitor visas. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:18.880 Are they here in a holiday? 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.960 Well no, because Tony Burke, the Minister, has said that 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.279 he's not going to send anyone back to Gaza. The 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:31.040 Coalition hounded the Albanese government in parliament again today about 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:37.080 why our security process is weaker than other countries Today. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.960 It was reported that before approving visas for people coming 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:44.120 from the terrorist controlled gars of war zone, Canada requires 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.880 applicants to submit to face to face interviews and biometric 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.960 testing in a third country, Egypt. Why didn't the government 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.280 have a similar arrangement in place before granting more than 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.880 two nine hundred tourist visas. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:05:59.200 Well. 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.919 In response to the Prime Minister says, not all Palestinians 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.240 support Hamas. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.760 People are from Gaza or the West Bank for that matter, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:13.920 certainly not automatically Hamas supporters and shouldn't be set still 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:15.000 as boys. 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:17.400 And that's right. Of course. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:22.080 Not all Palestinians support Hermas, but many do. The government 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:26.120 itself has rejected more than seven thousand visa applications from 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:31.120 Gaza on security grounds, and there were many civilians who 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:35.640 took part alongside Hermas in the October seven attacks, and 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:40.520 other civilians went in and looted homes, stepping over children 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:47.440 and families still lying there warm and bleeding. Civilians also 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:51.440 celebrated on the streets of Gaza as bloodied Israeli bodies 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:56.000 were paraded around and hostages dragged in. But Albinizi is right, 0:06:56.080 --> 0:07:00.719 not all Palestinians support Hermas. And here's the point, what 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.360 is he doing to ensure that her Musk sympathizers or worse, 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:09.720 actual her Musk members aren't coming to Australia. Automated visa 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:14.040 visitor visas are not the answer. Security checks that take 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:18.080 as little as one hour without any manual assessment is 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.840 certainly not going to sort through those posing a risk 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:22.640 from the refugees. 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.400 Well, Peter dartenass today. 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.680 If there was a third country where security assessments were 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.040 being completed. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.640 Processing a visa application, or somebody is offshore in a 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.200 third country like Jordan, means a person of concern can 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.160 be stopped before getting to Australia. The last government used 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.080 this process when bringing people in from Syria. The Prime 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.119 Minister says the process for granting twenty nine hundred tourist 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.040 visas to those coming from the terrorist control of Gaza 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.160 zone followed the same process. Can the Prime Minister advise 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:56.160 in which third party country these people were sent to 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.200 for screening before they come to Australia. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.120 There's not now, Dante and who'll be on my show 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.800 A bit later, he asked five times how many of 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.800 the two nine hundred visas from Gaza have been counseled 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:15.000 five times. The Prime Minister wouldn't answer and instead attack 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.800 to the coalition for asking questions about this instead of 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:19.600 other topics. 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.000 I could have asked a question about the cost of living, 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:28.720 could have asked a question about order from about the 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:36.840 visit of the president elective Indonesia promised to doesn't. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:39.320 He think national security is important to worry about. It's 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.840 so utterly confusing to see this lack of regard for 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:47.520 our safety, for our children's safety. It's so utterly confusing 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:51.120 that the Albanezy government and even Asio think it's okay 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:55.160 for people to come here who support Humus, because Mike 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:56.480 Burgess has said as much. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:08:59.920 If it's just rhetorical report and they don't have a 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.960 ideology or support for a violent extream as an ideology, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:04.079 then that's not a problem. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:05.520 Well. 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:09.120 Foreign Affairs editor Greg Sheridan said today that in his 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:13.360 forty five years of journalism he can't recall any minister 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:18.120 or official saying that it was okay to rhetorically support 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.320 a terror group, let alone someone who was seeking to 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:25.080 come to Australia. Greg Sheridan asks, is it okay to 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.760 give verbal support to al Qaeda or Islamic State or 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:32.080 even the Ku Klux Klan. He says, Jimas is not 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:36.800 only a terrorist organization, its charter contains the most foul 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.040 and vicious traditional anti Semitism. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:40.240 He says. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.960 The government must clarify what it means to say some degree. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.080 Of support for Hamas is no problem. 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.440 He says, the Opposition would be failing its duty to 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:53.880 the nation to leave this matter unresolved, and it is 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.000 a good point. Is the Prime Minister not concerned that 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:01.360 he's bringing people potentially to our country who hate Jews? 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.040 Doesn't this change. 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:08.600 Australia's social fabric? It seems the Prime Minister has quickly 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:13.679 forgotten the barbarities inflicted by Hermas on October seven. He 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.560 must have forgotten, or perhaps he doesn't care, because as 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:21.640 the data shows, Australia is taking in a near record 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:27.760 number of Palestinians from Gaza without any adequate security checks. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.000 All right, let's bring in tonight's panel, former Speaker of 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.559 the House Bronwyn Bishop and Menzies Research Center executive director 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:38.400 David Hughes. 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.520 Welcome to you both. Great to see you. Brown. 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:45.000 The Prime Minister today five times refused to say whether 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:49.240 any Palestinians who'd already arrived in Australia have now had 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.000 their visas revoked. 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:51.920 Is this good enough? 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.520 What is first becoming our cover up? Isn't it? 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:01.200 The denials and the pathetic way in which Albanezi today 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:06.680 tried to avoid answering those questions was made face of 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:10.439 the political process. And you can only say that he's 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.120 continually covering up of the issue. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.400 Means there's something to hide. What is it? We need 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:17.800 to know, we need to be told. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.240 We hear the old adage that you know, to make 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.280 a mistake is one thing, but to try and cover 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:25.640 it up there's entirely another. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:31.240 And that's what's happening now. So when you. 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.880 Look at the seriousness of national security, you realize that 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.840 Albanezi removed the head of ASIO from the Security Committee 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.440 of Cabinet, had to put him back. 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:41.760 But who do you replace him with? 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:46.520 Bowen with his climate change rubbish. You realize that there 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.480 was the question of national security doesn't matter to him. 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:51.960 He's like the kid who was still at university with 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:56.440 his megaphone yelling out pro Palestinian stuff. Then he hasn't 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.959 changed I say again again, he hasn't changed his spot 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:01.200 he hasn't. 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.920 David, the government tried to say today that the Coalition 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.440 had a similar process when they accepted people from other 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:10.880 dangerous parts of the world. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.479 Do you think that argument stands up to scrutiny. 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.560 Well, I can assure you that's not the case. I 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.679 was there in a senior role in the government at 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.440 the time, and there's a number of visa pathways that 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.560 governments can use, and those other nations that you mentioned 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.199 that have taken less than one hundred people from Gaza 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:31.320 are clearly using the humanitarian pathway, and there's two conditions 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.360 that need to be met, and it's a lengthy process. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.680 You need to demonstrate that you meet the criteria on 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.640 humanitarian grounds and you need to undergo a very comprehensive 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.560 security check. Now that's a pathway that other countries are 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.920 following that we followed in the past, particularly from people 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.840 from war zones where it's all the more important. What 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.400 concerns me here is we're letting people in on tourist visas. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.520 It's very hard once somebody's in the country, if they 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:59.600 do found to have said something averse or support for Hamas, 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.840 effectively need to be deported, which is a very lengthy 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.560 process if the government goes down that path, and to 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.199 have the head of our domestic intelligence service to say 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.840 that somebody can still be allowed in and kind of 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.840 offered support for a terrorist group is deeply, deeply concerning. 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.200 So thank you for providing scrutiny on these issues, and. 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:19.679 We'll continue to do so. 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.200 And we're going to come back to this topic in 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.400 the show I've got as I said dantean on a 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.040 bit later. But now let's have a look at the 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:31.559 fiasco in the New Southwle's Liberal Party and in breaking news, 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:35.000 the New Southwello's Liberals have abandoned their bid to take 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.920 the electoral Commission in New South Wales to court Brnwan. 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:43.360 This has been a massive internal fiasco, extreme incompetence here 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:49.480 that there are dozens of councils which now won't have Liberal. 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.839 Candidates, including mine, oh including yours as well. So what 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:54.160 do you think needs to happy? 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:58.480 I mean there's questions over Mark Speakman's involvement, what he 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.880 knew about this, the opposition leader in New South Wales. 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.560 For people who don't know, he's got a very low profile. 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.560 Do you think you know he needs to take some 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:07.760 responsibility as well? 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.560 Look, Cherry, I have never seen a mess like this. 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:12.280 It's unprecedented. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.360 And what needs to happen is the slate has to 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:20.480 be wipe clean in order that something can be done 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:24.800 to show that the division can in fact run a 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:29.520 federal election. There are still people, including in my olef set, 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.560 which does not have an endorse candidate, despite the fact 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:33.640 that requests have. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.480 Been made again and again for preselection. 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:42.560 So we need to have a situation arise whereby there 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:47.080 can be not only a competently run division, but it 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:51.680 has to be believably competently run. Now there's been a 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:56.120 sacrificial lamb in that the Richard Shields has been the 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.840 sacrificial lamb, but that's not enough. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.040 Because it needs to go as well. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:05.360 All the people won't until action is taken, and the presidency, 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:10.000 under the Constitution as it is now, has a very 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.800 important role to play in. Certain decisions can't be made 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.400 without the president, so he really has to consider his position. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:22.840 He really does, because the whole of the division is 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:27.480 now a laughing stock and the leadership has to be 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.920 seen to be in charge and it needs to have 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:30.880 a clean fleet. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:32.080 David. 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.360 The Daily Telegraph has reported that the Opposition leader Mark 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:39.560 Speakman was warned that the party was headed for an iceberg, 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.920 so I don't think there's a suggestion that he should 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.880 step down, but clearly enough people knew that this process 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:48.000 wasn't going to be met. 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.560 John Howard said earlier in the year that he had 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.480 concerns with running indoors Liberal candidates local governments because it 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:59.920 depletes resources and the main game, of course is Canberra, 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:04.080 and of course situations like this do take resources away 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.440 from the cort responsibility of the Liberal Party, which is 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.920 providing a Liberal prime minister in Canberra. Some good news, though, Sharhi, 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.680 in the last ten minutes or so, I've just seen 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.480 that Brian Locknae has been appointed to head a review 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.120 into this situation in New South Wales, and of course 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:23.000 no Brian was John Howard's former campaign director, so hopefully 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:23.960 he'll steady the ship. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:26.920 I just think. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.720 It has to be seen by people that responsibility has 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:38.160 been taken and it can be a competently run division and. 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:42.960 That can't happen really if Don Harwin remains, if he's 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:43.320 still that. 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.640 But David, when you say that it takes resources away 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:50.640 from focusing on the federal Liberal Party are you saying 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.800 that perhaps long term the New Southeales Liberal Party or 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.160 even other state Liberal parties shouldn't be in charge of 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.400 the local council process. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:03.320 Well, Dean John Howard's view to an extent, think about 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.239 it this way, Shari. For a federal election, the New 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.480 South Wales division has to select fifty fifty candidates for 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.000 fifty lower House seats. I think it's around ninety three. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.280 For state parliament. In this instance there would have been 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.800 around six hundred applications, so it is a very big 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:18.760 drain on resources. 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.359 So who would run it than just individual people do 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:22.280 it themselves. 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.439 To be blunt, that's where it used to be done. 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:30.600 Every local government conference ran a lodge its own documentation, 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.399 and quite frankly, if they'd just said the day before, 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.360 look we're having probably we can't get it all through 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:40.200 the portal, do your own, which some people did because 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:44.600 they got win that things weren't doing too well, then 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.280 they could have been saved. I mean in terms of 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.960 those people who have missed out. Take my own area 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:52.680 for instance, there is. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:53.640 Nobody to vote for. 0:17:54.000 --> 0:18:00.679 We're disenfranchised, and there are the personal stories of people 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:06.040 who have already spent money ready to buy core flutes 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.560 and money on their own credit cards. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.880 But of course it matters not It matters as well 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:16.639 for residents, for people who don't want radical policies or 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.000 prop activism on the street. 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:23.480 And we're in the difficult position where because of the 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:30.320 incompetence of the division, then people are disenfranchised. 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:31.879 They have not someone to vote for. 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.399 All right, let's quickly turn to the RBA, because the 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.000 minutes from their meeting on August fifth to six, the 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.840 two day meeting, have just been released and they put 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.840 more cold water on any chance of a rate cut 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:51.240 before next year, saying it would result in inflation remaining persistent. David, 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:54.240 though we keep hearing that there might be rate cuts. 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.480 I mean, this talk, especially politically, won't let up despite. 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.280 The minutes being there in black and white. 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:03.879 It's extraordinary. Shari Anthony Alberanezi might be the first Prime 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:07.320 Minister to never preside over an inflation rate within the 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.879 RBA's target since they started setting target rates in the 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:15.879 nineteen nineties. So their target for inflation ideally should be 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.520 between two and three percent. At the moment, it's running 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.080 close to four percent, and there's no likelihood of that 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:22.520 being down for another two years. 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.640 What do you think, Brian Wan, are you expecting we 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.880 might see a rate cut at the start of next 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.600 year or are you pessimistic given the level of both 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.480 state and federal government spending, that inflation just might not 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.600 come down enough to even have a rate cut at 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:37.520 the start of next year. 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:43.480 While the particularly the snake Darmer the Treasurer refuses to 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:47.040 acknowledge that he's spending policies and that of other labor 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:52.159 state governments US keeping those rates high and pleasure rates high, 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:55.960 the Reserve Bank has no option but to keep saying 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:00.960 that we are thinking about putting them up. If you 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.840 don't get your wreck together, government, we will put them 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:08.800 up to try and make them stop the outrageous extra 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:09.800 spending that they're doing. 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.359 All right from Bishop David Hughes, Great to see you 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:17.080 both again. Now let's cross to the United States, where 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:20.919 the Democratic National Convention kicked off in Chicago, and for 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.879 day one, the Democrats brought out the who's who of 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:27.280 the party to speak, including Hillary Clinton. 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:33.080 Kamla cares cares about kids and families, cares about America. 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:38.640 Donald only cares about himself. So it is no surprise, 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:42.880 is it that he is lying about Kamala's record. He's 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:52.720 mocking her name and her laugh sounds familiar. But we 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.000 have him on the run now. 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.639 And eyes were also on Joe Biden, who was trying 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.480 to salvage his own life. I see just as much 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:04.159 as he was speaking about Kamala. 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:10.480 COVID no longer controls our lives. But God from economic 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:16.639 crisis to the strongest economy in the entire world. Record 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:22.280 sixty million new jobs, record, small business growth, record high, 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.960 stock market record high far one case wages up, inflation down, 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:29.080 way down, and continue to go down. 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:32.879 It can talk up the US economy all he wants, 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:36.080 but the truth is there are concerns about a recession. 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:39.439 Well let's bring in now former US Acting Attorney General 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:42.560 Matthew Whittaker. Thank you, great to see you again. Look, 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.679 what were your main takeouts from the first day of 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:46.360 this convention. 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.160 Well, I think the Democrats going to be with you, Shari. 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:54.679 I think the Democrats feel that the more you say things, 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:59.640 even if they're not true, the more it might resonate. 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:02.880 Because what's happening is is that the things that were 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:06.679 being said from the stage last night are just not 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:11.119 what the ordinary Americans are experienced in places you know 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.080 that I travel all the time, and places where I 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.920 you know, where I spend a large majority of my time. 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:21.040 I just I see, for example, a lot of discussion 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:25.560 about Kamala Harris and her policies. She hasn't announced any 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:29.560 policies except price controls, which is kind of a failed 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:35.440 socialist idea that that ultimately has never worked, and it's 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:39.840 a cover up for when overspending by the government inflates 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:44.840 the goods and services that people use on an everyday basis. 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.960 So I think, you know, this was a way for 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:51.440 them to get some of those folks on the stage 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:53.000 and then off the stage. I think you're going to 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:59.480 see much more messaging about policy, I hope, but you know, 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:02.000 at the same time time, Kamala Harris hasn't really announced 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:03.879 any policies except price controls. 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.919 At this point, well, it seems to be that the 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:12.200 Democrats are running a campaign mostly based on personality not policy, 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.840 as you say, because the attacks on Trump came thick 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.119 and fast. He was called a loser, a plague on 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:20.440 the American conscience, a scab, even chance saying. 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:20.840 Lock him up. 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.680 So perhaps we are headed for what do you think 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:28.200 a campaign that's more based ony on personality, on attacking 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:31.920 Trump personally, rather than on key policy planks. 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:34.680 I think that is the case. You know, I was 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:39.159 at the Republican National Convention as a delegate, and I 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:45.119 don't remember that many speakers worrying about or addressing Joe Biden, 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:46.960 who is the nominee at the time before they did 0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:50.800 their you know, switch out a month ago. But you 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.679