WEBVTT - Sharri | 20 March 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:05.559 Live on Sky News. This is Sharry. 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:09.400 Good Evening. Welcome to the show tonight. 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:13.039 Peter Dutton's warning to China and his vow to fix 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:17.880 Albanese's broken relations with our allies. This is Dutton's most 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:21.080 important speech yet. I'll come to it in a moment. 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.280 The controversial new entrant in Australia's ritualist and the author 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:28.200 who went behind the scenes with the billionaires. He'll tell 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:31.800 us all the details that's coming up. Plus, was the 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:36.720 CIA involved in the assassination of JFK top secret documents 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.360 now laid bare. Adam Crichton would join me to discuss 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:46.800 and Albanese's hypocrisy for attacking Dutton over a fundraiser when 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:51.080 he held one on exactly the same day. This is the 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.360 left wing media tries to sell the narrative that Dutton 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:58.240 has a women problem. I'll discuss this with Matt Cadavan 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:03.240 and Basil zemplus shot, but first tonight, the upcoming election 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:08.160 is not just about policies but values, and the value 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.040 is that we want to underpin the governing of our 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:15.080 country well. Peter art And today spoke with precision and 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:19.679 clarity as he promised to return conviction and principles to 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.240 foreign policy if he wins the election. He gave a 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:27.320 major speech to the Loewy Institute, focusing on foreign affairs 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:28.320 and defense. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:29.440 He spoke of. 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:34.640 Russia, Ukraine, China and Israel, and his message today was 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.200 one of strength in the face of our adversaries and 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:44.039 unwavering friendship with our allies who share our values. This 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.560 was shockingly refreshing to hear. 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.800 Now foreign policy will be underpinned by moral clarity. I 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.280 believe there is right and wrong, and good and evil 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.200 in the world. Of course, in many ways democracies have 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:02.880 lost their resolve, their confidence because we've become susceptible to 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:06.920 the false arguments of advocates of keyboard warriors and conspiracy 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.720 theorists who distort morality for political ends. 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:16.000 Keyboard Warriors, indeed, and Dutton pose the question that if 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:21.040 we don't stand with friends and allies during their darkest hour, 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:26.480 then who will stand with us in hours. In cutting remarks, 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:32.280 Dutton said Albanese's weakness and inexperience in defense, diplomacy and 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:36.640 national security were now endangering Australians. 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:39.920 The government is the most left wing since the Whitlam 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.240 government of the seventies, and we are less safe because 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.079 of it. History is shown that acquiescence or appeasement ends 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.600 in a cul de sac of strategic misfortune or worse. 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.200 His criticism of the Albanese government was brutal. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:54.760 He didn't only. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:59.480 Highlight Albanese's weakness, but is inexperience. And Dutton said that 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:03.240 in Albany twenty six years in the parliament, he'd never 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:08.440 held a single national security or economic portfolio and basically 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:12.640 had no experience in foreign affairs. It's why Alberzi is 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:17.120 dominated by Penny Wong's warpped radical leftist. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:17.680 View of the world. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:23.160 And Dutton described Albanese's leadership as morally confused. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:25.200 And isn't it just. 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.920 The reason we've seen catastrophic failures in defense, diplomacy and 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.440 national security under the government is that Anthony Alberzi has 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.280 not provided strong, clear sighted and values driven leadership. Instead 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.920 of prioritizing the national interest in international policy, the Prime 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.720 Minister has been driven by political expediency or too often 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.520 he views foreign policy through the lens of domestic opportunism 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.600 because he has the wrong priorities. Anthony Albernese's decisions have 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:55.960 rightly been defined by weakness. 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:02.000 It's inarguably and unconsciraby virtually true that we've seen lily 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:06.760 lived weakness from Albanesi in the face of hostile dictatorships. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:11.520 Just as the world is aghast at Trump's embrace of Putin, 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.320 the same can be said of Albanesi cozying up to China. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:21.280 Even when Beijing challenged our sovereignty or deliberately injured our 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.400 defense personnel, Albanesi failed to. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.000 Utter a harsh word. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.320 He failed to confront she when he saw him in 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:34.000 person at the G twenty and more recently, Albanesi insisted 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:39.120 China had given warning of life fire exercises in the 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:43.280 Tasman Sea, when in fact they outrageously had it. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:44.240 Well. 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.520 This submissiveness, and it is submissiveness. It's earned him the 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:54.239 patronizing moniker of handsome boy with the Chinese and Dutton 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.680 Wan today that the tensions in our region could escalate 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:00.120 into conflict, and he spoke of the new we need 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.719 to maintain a respect for relationship and a healthy trade 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:08.400 relationship with China whilst still calling out aggression. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.560 But time and again the government has failed to call 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:15.440 out the Chinese Communist Party's military aggression against men and 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.920 women of the Australian Defense Force. Red lines need to 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:23.280 be made clear, especially in a period of tension, because 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.880 if they're not, we end up with a situation like 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:29.120 the one in recent weeks, the situation where the Chinese 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:33.240 Navy provided no notice of its life fire exercise whilst 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:38.960 it circumnavigated Australia, a situation where our national maritime surveillance 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.880 was outsourced to a Virgin Airline pilot. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:47.160 And Dartan said self censorship was a price that no 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:53.600 self respecting country should ever pay, especially a democracy like ours. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.560 Well then, on Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Albert Easy claims 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:02.800 to stand with Ukraine, but still hasn't fulfilled some basic 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.159 requests that have been made of us, and that includes 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:10.400 delivering M one Abrams tanks, also requests for our thermal 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:15.480 coal in winter or donating out of service MRH ninety 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:23.080 Taipan helicopters. Instead they were torn apart and buried. Albanizi 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:27.520 now says he wants to send Australian troops into Harm's way, 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.599 yet he didn't even think it was safe enough to 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:31.200 open our. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:32.600 Embassy in Kiev. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:37.720 I mean, these are utterly bizarre and conflicting comments well. 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:44.039 Dutton spoke today about his personal disappointment in how President Zelenski. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.120 Was treated at the White House, but then he. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:50.960 Also praised Donald Trump's objective to want to end the conflict, 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.760 and then on Israel. As you know, Australia has utterly 0:06:55.920 --> 0:07:00.440 abandoned our strategic ally in the Middle East, and Dartan 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:05.200 today described this as the Prime Minister's most egregious foreign 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:09.360 policy failure. In a portion of his speech, he described 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:14.520 each step of Pennywong and Albanese's horrific failures, and then 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.800 he spoke about how he'd fix them. 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.680 Following Hamas's barbaric attack on Israel, the government should have 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.840 sent a strong and clear message that it stood with 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:29.000 our ally. Instead, the government's response was suppined. We began 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:35.239 to hear unreasonable calls for immediate restraint, calls for Israel 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.280 to not look back in anger, calls for Israel to 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:42.400 de escalate and to pause its military response. Now. These 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:46.760 calls persisted despite hostages remaining in chains and being executed. 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:51.680 These calls continued despite Hamasa's odious terror network remaining active. 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:56.440 And these calls endured while Hesbala rained down thousands of 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:01.160 rockets on Israel and while Hodi's in Iranian RAJ launch 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.320 missile and Draine attacks. 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.680 Now dartan And also spoke about how Penny Wong's call 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:13.160 for unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state while Hamas continues 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:18.600 to hold hostages was effectively an endorsement of Hamas's use 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:23.240 of terror to achieve political ends, and Darton said Israel 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.800 has been treated as though it were an adversary and 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:27.520 not a friend. 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:32.760 The government has adopted adversarial positions towards Israel to shore 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:36.200 up Labour's votes in certain seats where there are undeniably 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.600 anti Israel and anti Semitic views, and. 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:40.560 How true is that? 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:41.520 Now? 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:45.360 These are relations that Darton says he will restore if 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:46.560 he becomes Prime minister. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.800 If I become Prime minister, one of my first orders 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.600 of business will be to call Prime Minister net Yahoo 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:54.720 to build on the one on one meeting I had 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.280 with him during my recent visit, and to help rebuild 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.959 the relationship Labour has trashed. Israel will be able to 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.480 count on our support again in the United Nations and again. 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.680 UNRA has employed terrorists from Hamas who participated in the 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:13.080 seven October attacks. The organization will no longer receive a 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.040 dollar of funding from a government. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:15.160 That I need. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:21.920 If only this strength, this clarity, was bipartisan federal foreign 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.920 policy as it once was. 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.079 Our failure to stand. 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.240 Strong and firm is part of the reason why Trump 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.840 won't pick up Albanese's phone calls. He doesn't want a 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:37.840 relationship with Albanesi. His entire team are hoping that the 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.720 left wing experiment of the Albanese government will be over 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.400 shortly and that they can start afresh with Dutton and 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.560 figures that they already have a solid working relationship with 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:53.319 people like James Patterson and Andrew hasty Well. Dutton today 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.840 said he believed he'd have a closer relationship with Trump, 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.640 wouldn't be hard, and thus he'd be able to achieve 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.640 outcomes for our national interest. 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.600 And I do believe that if there's a change of government, 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.800 I will be able to work with the Trump administration 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.160 mark too to get better outcomes for Australians. I will 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.160 seek to meet President Trump in Washington. In the early 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.040 days of the Dutton coalition government. 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:21.880 Now we often talk about peace through strength and it's 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:26.280 a message the Dutton reinforced today. He spoke about increasing 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:31.000 defense capabilities becoming more self reliant as a nation and 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:35.800 also resilient. And he said this includes developing energy security 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:39.960 and fuel reserves. He said, if this didn't happen, we 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:45.000 could be left flat footed in uncertain times. And because 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:49.200 we are living in uncertain times, more than ever, we 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:53.400 need a clear eyed view of our enemies and our allies. 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:58.680 We can't afford continued moral confusion. We can't afford to 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:02.920 bow down to dictators. We need strength of leadership to 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:07.280 protect our sovereignty, the values that underpin our democracy and 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:14.800 that safeguard our national security. Okay, let's bring in now 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:19.000 our Thursday Panel National Senate, National Senator Matt Cadavan and 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.120 WA Liberal MP Basil Zemplars. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:23.680 Now, I'm going to start. 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.000 With you, Basil, breaking news this afternoon that WA Liberal 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:31.200 leader Libby Mattham is standing down this after poor performance 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:32.040 at the state. 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.520 Election on March the eighth. 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.880 Basil, tell us live here, are you going to throw 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.880 your hat in the ring for leader of the Liberal 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.200 Party in Wa? 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.480 Well, first, and Sherry, good evening to you and Matt. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.000 You never told me it was going to be like this, 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:51.440 and not this quickly anyway, Cherry, I will put my 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.320 hand up or at least put my hat into the ring, 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:00.280 and I accept that between now and next Tuesday, the 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:04.960 Liberal Party room meeting will likely be It's a reasonable 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:06.719 question that I'm going to be asked and will be 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.840 asked repeatedly if I don't answer, so I think it's 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.560 the right thing to do say yes I will. And 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.600 also to say a huge thank you to Libby met 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.000 him for her enormous contribution as leader over the last 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:20.280 two years, but in particular during the most recent election campaign, 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.520 she was magnificent, even though the seats result did not 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.400 reflect that well. 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:29.319 Big news there, Basil Zamplus will be running for Leader 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:34.880 of the Liberal Party in WA. Basil Libby has said 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.160 that she would like to be the deputy leader of 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:38.079 the Liberal Party. 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.520 Would you like to have her as your deputy? 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:46.120 I really welcomed that news from Libby today. I think 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.560 that's hugely important to me if I end up being 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:52.839 the leader, and hugely important to our lower house team. 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.560 Libby will be the only member of that lower House 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.800 team for the Liberal Party in the West Australian Parliament 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:01.880 with parliamentary experience. Clearly that is going to be important. 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.160 I've always enjoyed working side by side with her, particularly 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.280 through the campaign when we got to do it quite 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.959 a lot. It felt tremendous. I think it was effective, 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.280 and we enjoy each other's company professionally, and the prospect 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.360 of working side by side with her to hold this 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.079 labor government to account is one that I'm really looking 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.560 forward to. So yes, I absolutely welcome that news from Living. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.600 I mean, she blamed leadership instability as a factor for 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.800 the poor showing at the state election. 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:33.439 Do you agree with that assessment? 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:37.119 And I mean there has been at least reported rivalry 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.760 between the two of you, So do you accept any 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.120 responsibility for this. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:43.240 Share? 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.600 There are things that I can't control, and clearly I 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.000 have been the Lord Mayor of the City of Perth, 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.760 and I have had a high profile in this city 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:57.040 because of my thirty year broadcast career, and so people 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:01.520 have made assumptions or used that form of notoriety with 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:06.360 me to perhaps suggest things that simply weren't the case. 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.000 I do accept, of course, what happened back in November, 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.960 not of my doing was unhelpful and unnecessary. But I 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.400 think the election result was because of the election campaign, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.440 and more to the point, I think it was because 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.480 of the absolute strength of this Labor government, and so 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.800 I think people have seen those events as quite separate. 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.760 And the last thing I'll say is, as Matt would 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.240 know from having observed closely, it's a convention of the 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.480 Liberal Party right around Australia that after an election all 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.600 leadership positions are spilled. I'm not in control of that. 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.600 And Libby has decided not to put her hand up 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.000 for leader. And so now, having been asked, will you 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:44.040 put your hand up for leader? 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.360 I am saying yes, I will right well, if she 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.440 is blaming leadership instability for the result of March eight, 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:52.240 and if she becomes your deputy, I guess you have 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.600 to hope that there's no white aunting going on there 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:56.200 as revenge. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.640 Matt, any advice for Vawso do you think you'll make 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.640 a good Liberal leader in WA? 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:08.600 I think I've lost pretty much every leadership I haven't 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:10.800 challenged myself and anyone I've been involved in. 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.320 So all the best to Basil. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.080 I mean, we might be saying goodbye to and this 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.560 might be his last hurrah, but I do wish him 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.880 all the best over there in the West because I 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.040 think you know, I've got a great love for the 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.160 West Australian people. I spent a lot of time there 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.880 was Resources Minister, and I think Basil's right that the 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.920 Labor government kind of got re elected because West Australia 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.680 has benefited from what has been an amazing commodity price 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.840 boom the last couple of years. But that's ending, that's receding, 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:42.080 and I don't think this Labor Party government over there 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.360 is doing enough to attract new investment. They haven't been 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.280 able to settle the Northwest Shelf with the federal government. 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.680 Might see more about that next week in Canberra. They've 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.280 sat back and let the live export industry be destroyed, 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.200 and they made a complete, hash complete mess of the 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.960 native title changes which continue to cause issues right around 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.240 the country. So look, I think there might be a 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.480 turning point at sometime in the next few years when 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.880 things might get a bit tougher in a more difficult 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.480 commodity price environment, and West Australia, the whole country needs 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.480 West Australian governor's pro business, pro development and gets that 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:15.120 state moving. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:17.680 All right, let's have a look at some of the 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.600 other stories around today. Now, no one could have missed 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:26.080 Albanezi and all of his labor ministers, absolutely smashing Darton 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:31.120 for attending a fundraiser four days before ex tropical cyclone 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.520 Alfred hit. But now today it's been revealed that Albanesi 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:39.160 himself attended a fundraiser on exactly the same day. Now 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.720 Basil Murray Watt came out, he said that Dutton was 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.240 filling money bags instead of sound bags. 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.359 I mean, did they think no one would. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.120 Find out about Labour's fundraiser that the PM did the 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:50.640 same thing? 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.480 To understand how this can happen assuming that people within 0:16:56.040 --> 0:17:00.920 the government team knew where Anthony Albanzi was. Obviously they 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.600 did know, but either that was not communicated or such 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.439 was the hubris of the government that they decided to 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:12.719 take that non anyway, which you just couldn't imagine they 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:16.080 would do that. I mean, it's unforgivable and an unforgivable 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.239 own goal if that is the case. But clearly, if 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.640 you're throwing stones, you've got to make sure that you're 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.000 not living in a glasshouse of your own and that 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.960 seems to be what's happened here. It's a very very 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:29.160 poor tactical error. 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:31.600 I mean, what do you think about this, Matt, Do 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.760 they just think the media is so on elbow side 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:35.920 that no one would care. 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.480 I think it's probably lack of communication. The left hand 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.320 didn't know what the right hand was doing. But bad luck, 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.880 it's blown up in Labour's face. And maybe they should 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.720 drop all this hydrogen stuff and instead focus on producing 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:52.560 electricity from hypocrisy. They have a complete, unlimited supply of 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.200 that in the Labor Party at the moment, and maybe 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.159 they would be the solution for us. 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:57.320 All. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.119 I mean, I Peter did nothing wrong, and look, I'm 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.119 not going to Anthony did nothing wrong. You've got to 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.200 go to fundraisers in this job. It's part of running 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.120 a campaign. And this was four days before the cyclone hit. 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.199 And I think now that we've had a few weeks 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.400 in hindsight of it all here and I sitting here 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.840 in Brisbane been up into them. But today, you know, 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.320 there was a bit of an overreaction. People started going 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:21.640 off work four days before a storm hit, and you know, 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.560 we maybe just a little bit into that COVID malaise 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.800 where we think we've got a lockdown for some reason. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:28.080 A few of us up in North Queen's and were 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.760 scratching our heads. I had a Category five cyclone go 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.439 over our house a decade ago before COVID and I 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.000 can't remember anyone taking time off work. But you just 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.040 got on with lifepously. If you had damage, you dealt 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:40.480 with it. But yeah, it's crazy. 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:42.439 Well, remember you were on the show, because you're on 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.760 every Thursday, Matt, and you said that that the lockdowns 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.040 were a bit of an overreaction. At that point, we 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:50.000 still thought the cyclone was going to hit imminently and 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.840 your comment seemed so shocking. But then by the time 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.320 the cyclone hit and it wasn't even a cyclone, it 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.640 was an X cyclone, And of course there was damage, 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.920 but you know, nothing like the severity that the incorrect 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:03.639 weather forecasters were wandering about. 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.639 Well you seemed spot on, So there you go. 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:07.360 Now. 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.800 Macquarie University, we've been talking about it this week for 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.520 the revelations that some law students were being marked on 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.840 how well they delivered an acknowledgment of country. Well, today 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.640 another article in The Australian revealed that they've been made 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:25.879 to do a privilege walk and they're also being taught 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:30.120 that children are not many humans with many human rights, 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.240 but equal to adults. 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:34.760 I mean, Basil. 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:39.720 We've seen leading barristers come out and slam this because 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.399 they're saying it should not be a requirement for a 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:43.159 law exam. 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:46.240 I mean, it just seems bizarre, doesn't it, that it is. 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:51.040 The world is craving and I think many, many Australians 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:56.280 are craving for a return of common sense and of 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.879 course the welcome to country at the appropriate time, in 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:04.640 the right forum and with the right number of times. 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.479 So that doesn't mean every time we have a public gathering, 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.760 but at the right times it is respectful and appropriate, 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.600 but not every time we do something, not every day, 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:17.240 not for every exam, not for every student. And this 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.320 idea that kids and adults should be treated as exactly 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:23.400 the same, They're not exactly the same. Some can't make 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.800 decisions for themselves, and some are eighteen. They've got a passport, 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.880 they've got a driver's license, they can go to the pub, 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:29.960 they can vote. 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:31.040 They are different. 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:35.199 We don't have to put everything into one basket, and 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.840 we've lost our way if this is the way we're going. 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.679 Exactly, I mean, Matt, this idea that children are equal 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.800 to adults. When you know young children in particular, they 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.359 can't make sensible decisions. Their brains aren't developed, they don't 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:49.120 have the knowledge. 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:49.920 This is absurd. 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:54.760 Yeah, I think it reminds me of that great quote. 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:57.440 I think it was George or Well, although either George 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:00.480 All or Wiston Churchill said everything I think, but Door said, 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.480 you know, this is an idea that Arnie, an intellectual, 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:09.879 could believe in. It's so stupid, so silly. You do 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:12.680 call it a question how much money sometimes these institutions 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:16.240 are getting. I heard this week too that another university 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.960 is getting a million dollars to start to decolonize breastfeeding 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:21.000 or something like that. 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:21.560 From the government. 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:25.520 Why we find the exactly well you did too. It's 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:29.240 just outrageous and it's got to be rained in completely 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.720 the basil. We need a restoration of common sense. We 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.240 need and I really worry about the way Welcome to 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:38.720 countries being abused. It's causing a backlash that's dividing Australians. 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.960 There's an increase now in adversity among Australian groups because 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.920 people are just sick and tired of it. And anybody 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.920 can see that. Stop it on planes, stop it at airport, 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.520 stop it at every meeting we have. They're doing damage 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.960 to race relations in Australia by pushing this down people's. 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:58.080 Throats, sharing my view on the welcome to country, and 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:03.240 it is enormously respectful and the right times, it's absolutely fabulous. 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:05.520 It's a beautiful tribute to our first Australians. 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:08.000 By view is, if we're at an event where the 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.600 national anthem plays, then by all means have a welcome 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.320 to country. But we don't play the Australian national anthem 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:17.560 every time we gather or every time we have an event, 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:21.280 And it would appear as though at almost every year 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.840 we've pushed towards doing a welcome to country. I reckon, 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.800 if it's national anthem worthy, then it's also welcome to 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:32.200 country worthy and put the two together on the same level. 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:33.720 That feels about right. 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:36.600 I mean, it's not just universities. 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:38.880