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Speaker 1: thank you with your wine than.

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Speaker 2: She is. Well, we helped make this wine.

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Speaker 2: You don't mind us saying, because I know you have

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Speaker 2: a vineyard. We made it. You know what it is.

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Speaker 3: It's a bold blend, made with bold women, inspired by laughter.

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Speaker 3: Shared over the back fence. The twenty eighteen release celebrates intuition,

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Speaker 3: connection and the courage to say yes. And this is

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Speaker 3: all out of a meeting with our mutual friend Linda

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Speaker 3: Muddle right over Lisa mcgwigan. This is her wine. Here

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Speaker 2: Which one is yeah? And so Lisa was your guest.

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Speaker 3: On our podcast Over the back Fence, and so dian

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Speaker 3: Ni coulds a tribute to spontaneous friendship and spirited conference.

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Speaker 2: We literally did help make the wach We were thrilled

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Speaker 2: to not squashing grace with our feet, but we were

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Speaker 3: So we've got to collab over the wine fence as well,

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Speaker 3: over the back fence. Money fans.

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Speaker 1: She's pretty cool, Lisa, she's great cool. Her family, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're great.

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Speaker 2: People, they're good, strong stock. What have we got We've

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's good. I've got the pinu grity. But don't

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Speaker 3: you love it too. That's also like the mcgwigan that's Lisa's.

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Speaker 3: She's with the van and she's got the crosses.

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Speaker 1: That, by the way, that's not mcgwig and wine.

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Speaker 2: L you spot on saying that she likes to Actually

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Speaker 1: I have bought wine from her in the past or

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Speaker 1: I love hearing this. She I'm a rule Lisa mcgwigan fan.

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Speaker 3: Sheers to Lisa and cheers to friends.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could with water and your friends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, love it to make you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you much. You two best friends, best mates for

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Speaker 3: Each other's parents' funerals. We've been through, We've gone through divorces.

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Speaker 2: bloody unque didn't. It was like a moment of Wow,

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Speaker 3: And then I'll go back to my you know, like

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Speaker 2: Did you want to get a word in Mark? No.

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Speaker 2: But it is one of those situations where, like I remember.

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Speaker 2: We've all heard about the Harvard story about lifestyle of

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Speaker 2: Because yesteryear, what you were just saying, people like Madge

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or community is really important. And I think it's

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Speaker 3: This year and we've been so excited Mark about that

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Speaker 3: one because you know it's.

436
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Speaker 2: Over the Money, Over the I think about the play

437
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Speaker 2: on the words over the back fence. We can put

438
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Speaker 2: anything in that.

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Speaker 3: Over the one fence actually with Lisa mcgwigg, but over

440
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 3: the over the back fence with Roger. We've had Roger

441
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Speaker 3: Montgomery who's a financial expert, so he's coming in. So

442
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 3: we've when it's really funny because we talked about everything

443
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 3: in life basically as best is for forty years. The

444
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 3: one thing we didn't talk about was money and finance

445
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 3: because we just sort of thought we didn't really know

446
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 3: too much about it all. With you, it was sort

447
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 3: of conversation, a bit taboo in our younger days to

448
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Speaker 3: talk about intimidating.

449
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Speaker 2: It was just sort of, yeah, I don't want to

450
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Speaker 2: bring finance. What's happening now is.

451
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Speaker 3: You get to this stage of your life, especially as

452
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Speaker 3: a woman, in this mid age of our life. There's

453
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Speaker 3: so many whether they've been divorced, whether they've lost her husband,

454
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Speaker 3: or whether they're in a situation there that they didn't

455
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Speaker 3: know that they would be.

456
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Speaker 2: But this was feedback, Yeah, feedback, and listens said, well,

457
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Speaker 2: not specifically, but that podcast then.

458
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Speaker 3: It was great. Weeks of films with Roger Montgomery came on.

459
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Speaker 3: But we need sort of someone who's going to talk

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Speaker 3: about finance to help us out because we don't. We're

461
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Speaker 3: students ourselves, and it's been the best thing because we're

462
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Speaker 3: learning all.

463
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Speaker 2: We're literally like to.

464
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Speaker 3: Make money fun and trying to going. You know what.

465
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Speaker 3: I might have known about it then, but I need

466
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Speaker 3: to now I am in this situation.

467
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Speaker 1: Give an example, super exactly, arbitrage.

468
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Speaker 2: I didn't. I thought that was military. I thought that

469
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Speaker 2: was like a ship, right, like compounding compound, yeah, which

470
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Speaker 2: my money would come. But you know, like and we're

471
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Speaker 2: not coming like being comedian, we are pure with our question.

472
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Speaker 2: And Roger laughs the whole time because we go I

473
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Speaker 2: got school. It's still funny that love to have a chat.

474
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Speaker 2: But it's like, finance to me was always here. And

475
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Speaker 2: on that note, my father brought home the bacon, Mum

476
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Speaker 2: raised the children age, my husband.

477
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Speaker 1: Ran the house budget there. Sorry, but your mom r

478
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Speaker 1: the public.

479
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Speaker 2: Mum ran everything. But when it came to finance as

480
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Speaker 2: a rule back then, and I'm talking about back then,

481
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: things have changed, are changing and have changed in many ways.

482
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Speaker 2: But my husband with the business, I've always worked with

483
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Speaker 2: the kids, but he managed the funds right. And we're

484
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Speaker 2: noticing that we were noticing a lot of women with

485
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Speaker 2: anxiety around finance and no clarity and or fear, and

486
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Speaker 2: so therefore they were pulling back and back to that

487
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 2: word intimidating. It's it was finance. They were like, I

488
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Speaker 2: can't I will will have enough when I get older.

489
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, the kids. I want to look after

490
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Speaker 2: the kids. Like, how am I going to finance? You

491
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Speaker 2: look after my self? Look after the kids. So these

492
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: this feedback was coming to us and it was not

493
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 2: not totally but woven through. We enjoyed this podcast and

494
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: then can you get someone on to talk about finance?

495
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: And we're going, I want to put that on the podcast.

496
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: Well it finally happened because we were inundated, but there

497
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: was enough because we love the feedback, and I said, Nickola,

498
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 2: we're going to have to. There's a lot of people

499
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Speaker 2: and the fastest growing group of homeless people in this

500
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Speaker 2: country as women fifty four to sixty four. So bear

501
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Speaker 2: that in mind, guys. So I believe it's this. It's

502
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Speaker 2: ground grassroots, like it's education. And course we're so relaxed

503
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Speaker 2: about it. It's not sort of like where the jargon's

504
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: getting lost. What are they talking about because we questioned

505
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 2: the whole time Roger's going, God, another question, but because

506
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: we're so fascinated by it.

507
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: But it's really good.

508
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Speaker 1: We've found so the audience listening.

509
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Speaker 3: Sorry you're the audience, Yes, we really are. And so

510
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 3: many people have said, oh, well, like Nicola or thank

511
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 3: you for bringing this on, because it's not just sort

512
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 3: of financial talk that would be intimidating. It's sort of

513
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: like in Layman's Turn people who didn't know about it.

514
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 3: And also we're making it fun. We're having a giggle

515
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 3: along the way, and people are sort of writing in

516
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 3: instead of going, you know, I'm at this stage going wow,

517
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Speaker 3: I don't think I've got enough money to last, and

518
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Speaker 3: we're going to live longer, and we want to live longer,

519
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: so you know, And so now it's a really good

520
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 3: way of going addressing it. You can have hit in

521
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: the sand, which we did. You can try and or

522
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 3: not talk about it, because part of us will raise

523
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: that way absolutely, But then the reality is is going

524
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Speaker 3: If you do want to have a good life, it's

525
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: part of it. So it's sort of like, then get

526
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Speaker 3: rid of the fear. And part of the best way

527
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: of getting the fear is is actually by talking about it,

528
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Speaker 3: addressing it, having a little look what you've got, asking

529
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Speaker 3: a simple question and there's no silly question at all.

530
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Speaker 3: It's just like where do I start?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember Gilligan's again, cause you would? Do you

532
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: remember the theme song? And I want sing the song?

533
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: But the millionnaire and his wife? Do you remember that?

534
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: Sing the song?

535
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: That I will in a minute, But do you know?

536
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: You get my point? It's like, well, guess what, there's

537
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: me andaire women out there. It's just that flip of

538
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: that whole psychology and accepting it and embracing it and

539
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: moving all the negativity on. I've gone through it in

540
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: a huge way post divorce, you know, coming to terms

541
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: of it, because I do, And I'm so glad because

542
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: it's actually empowering ultimately to have a group on what

543
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 2: finances you have moving forward at this and middle age.

544
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Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to look after the kids.

545
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Speaker 3: It's been a gift and a surprise to us, and

546
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 3: I hope other listeners get that gift of going. It's

547
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: scary when you're going, I don't know what to do.

548
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: I'm in this situation, but the gift is there, going well,

549
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: it's so good now going, you can start again, you

550
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 3: can get confidence in there. It's not a scare. It's

551
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: actually really interesting. Look we're actually I'm loving all the

552
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 3: stuff about and talk about it and it's like any

553
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: I'm actually loving.

554
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: It all much the conversation.

555
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: I love learning everything about it now and I was

556
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: listening to you what you're thinking. When the rates stay

557
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: the same and all that stuff they go, I can't

558
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 3: actually get enough of it now.

559
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: It's like a new So it's been the downloads have been.

560
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Speaker 3: No mon month month, it's been. It's getting growing. Some

561
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: people actually said to us, going, we'll always we love

562
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: your podcast, we like you, but we'll actually always listen

563
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 3: to the money one below us away when we started it.

564
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: Everything on that topic. We've had sexperts, we've had all

565
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: these ones here money and we didn't.

566
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Speaker 2: Want to do it.

567
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Speaker 1: So money phone is doing as well as it's doing

568
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Speaker 1: really well. Like what what performs best on your podcast?

569
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Speaker 1: What what something matters seems to do well?

570
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: Question?

571
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Sex does well? Always well?

572
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: We had have you had a sex ologist on had.

573
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Speaker 1: Sex ologies and I've had a porn star as well.

574
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: It would have been what intrigued and also had.

575
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: A madam on who launched a book about her establishment.

576
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's as I said, we had from.

577
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: A sexpert, Susan Bratton, and that that sort of peaked

578
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: a bit. Sometimes they do certainly.

579
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: Got my brain going, well, what's the moment.

580
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: But you know, David the Medium is also has been

581
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: very very popular. He just is actually touring around Australia

582
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: at the moment. He's a live seller show as in

583
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: a spiritual medium. He did a lot. He'd actually did

584
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: reading it to both of us twice actually, once when

585
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: he was sort of saying butterflies around. Funny that, sir

586
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: David the Medium really is very very popular, are we comedian?

587
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: We had also Sue Belle from Don't You.

588
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: Know of Her?

589
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: A million followers, the queen of.

590
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Speaker 3: Palm Beach and Palm Beach, Florida, and we thought, and

591
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: I was saying, I got to get her off huge

592
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: and I said, now we're the Queens of Palm Beach

593
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: in Sydney, so the coens are there, We've got to

594
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: meet up. And we did a big link up and

595
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: she's got a really big gay following and she was

596
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: a hoot and she's re shared it. So in the

597
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: States we are quite popular in America. Surprise, so we've

598
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: looked at the thing there. So Sue Bells really peaked

599
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: in our US ones. There's we've got a lot of

600
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: downloads on it.

601
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Speaker 2: I think when there's also which you would know, Mark,

602
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Speaker 2: because I've been listening to you for quite a long

603
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Speaker 2: time and a couple or quite in a little while.

604
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Speaker 2: But to be honest, I think when they're really heartfelt

605
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: and emotion surfaces, hence their authenticity. I really do think

606
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: that they're very popular because maybe someone's you know, the

607
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: mask is up or the ghosting themselves. They're feeling that

608
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: but they haven't brought it to the fee and I

609
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: think that that can really stir up some sort of

610
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: emotion and then hopefully change and move forward. I believe

611
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: that they're really popular, and often when we do.

612
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: The soft these two, Oh God.

613
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: I love your questioning who would you pick?

614
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm feeling I'm feeling right now that you're the more

615
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: emotional one.

616
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: I am. I feel people really deeply.

617
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: You could cry easily, you.

618
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: Could not talk, and I would feel your energy. Don't know,

619
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Speaker 2: I feel people, and if you're quite strongly strongly.

620
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: Nicholas the performer funny, I think you perform. You're seeing

621
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Speaker 1: you're out there, but I think I think Nicholas not

622
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: showing us everything everything you're you're you're showing yourself. Okay,

623
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: we'll get by performer. She's yes, I get that straight guy.

624
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Speaker 3: You know what I would say that that also said

625
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: it's interesting, but you know, I think I've got all

626
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: the empathy there. But one hundred and three year old

627
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: doctor Gladyson McGarry, we had her on and we've actually

628
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: had her on like now, we've replayed that because it

629
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: was so popular and interview. She was on a bike,

630
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: so she was super popular as well.

631
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, bike riding.

632
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Speaker 3: I'm going it's funny when you say that because your

633
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: die will come to the foe with her emotion as

634
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: I'm very emotional, but I'll have a thing on until

635
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: i'm reading. Yeah, but it's funny. On the first Over

636
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 3: the Money Fence one, we had Roger for one hundredth episode.

637
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: We've done one hundred and fifty now, but the very

638
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: first Over the Money Fence one. Remember at the end,

639
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: I burst into tears and I surprised myself and then Sam,

640
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: our producer, burst into tears and it was that real

641
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: thing of going he's a really nice guy going on.

642
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: He's a really decent guide. And it was I think

643
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: it was just that sort of big emotion there and

644
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: they're all going, oh, we haven't seen you, chronicler, and

645
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: I surprised myself.

646
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: It was financed and it was I cried for the relief.

647
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: You just feel relief.

648
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just a really when you love it

649
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: when you meet some of a really genuine person.

650
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Speaker 2: And so the person Montgomery, I.

651
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Speaker 1: Don't know, You've got to connect, Yeah, so they could.

652
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Speaker 1: I just want to I do want to raise something

653
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Speaker 1: with your relation to what you're doing with the money show.

654
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: Is it's interesting that I think you might have mentioned, Nikola,

655
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: we are going to live longer because of health technology,

656
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: just bothf and but in order to live better. The

657
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: problem is superinnovation fall short in that the the mathematical

658
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: or the calculation of how much superinnovation employees should put

659
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: away is based on assumption that when it comes to women,

660
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: that you're going to die at eary one point two

661
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: years of age. That's the average agent Australian woman and

662
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: bridge when she dies. And and as a result of that,

663
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: they say, well, we also assume you're going to retire

664
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: sixty two or five. We also assume that you need

665
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: so much money to live on and you own your

666
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: own home. Therefore, by the time you reach eighty one

667
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: point two years of age, you'll have nothing left. But

668
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: if you live beyond eighty one to eighty one point

669
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: two years of age, because you know you're better connected

670
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: with health technology or you're better connected with we just

671
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: know things are better, you could possibly run out of

672
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: money on the current supreneration. The way the current superhnovation

673
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: is worked. So young people say it not so much

674
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: our age, but twenty year old who's thinking when he

675
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: or she reaches sixty five, assuming there's no change, will

676
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: live to one hundred, not eighty one point five. But

677
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: the current twelve percent super is making an assumption that

678
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: you will live to eighty one point two. So there's

679
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two very concerning on account.

680
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: So better we live longer. I'm working longer, and that's it.

681
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: They're not. I'm assuming correct. I'm assuming in that assumption.

682
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: The calculations assume you won't work longer after sixty five,

683
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: so we have to get a change.

684
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: It's going to flip.

685
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: The people got to say, say, well, I'm happy for

686
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: people work in my business till they're seventy five.

687
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's changing now, which is so good.

688
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: As got to change their mind. That's got to change.

689
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: So we're going to start saying, let them work to

690
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: seventy five because but the problem is, you know, the

691
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: thirty year old or twenty five year old wants you

692
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: to retire sixty five so that you're out of the way.

693
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: So they're goe an opportunity to do your work. And

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Speaker 1: then I ad AI on to.

695
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: All this as well. Well, yeah, comes the question stirring.

696
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's going to happen? Will we have enough money

697
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: to live a good life past that age? And we

698
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: all everyone is sitting in this room, what's the past

699
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: eighty one point two? I can tell you that for sure, because.

700
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Speaker 2: I think we're going to go to the country, grow crops,

701
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: have communes, be happy, live near a river with fresh water. Honestly,

702
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: I think it's going to come to that where people

703
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: will go, well, I haven't got the money. I mean

704
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: a friend just went up the coast and all the

705
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: caravan parks are filled with women and they're unhappy as

706
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: could be a lot.

707
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: For older women. The city is doing exactly that time.

708
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: You know.

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00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: The inn thing also for especially for older women as

710
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: well as traveling and they're staying at really cool hostels

711
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 3: and and they're having the but I.

712
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: Guess what you're saying that they're living off their pensions, right,

713
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: So therefore what Mark's saying is they'll get to a

714
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: certain age. Yeah, we'll hold on. You have to do

715
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: a lot of averages, you know that.

716
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: We do have to address that. And people also have

717
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: to have the mindset now of going you know, I've

718
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: just turned you know, sixty last year, and it's just

719
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: like going, well, I hope to work. I have to

720
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Speaker 3: work for another couple more decades.

721
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: You created your job.

722
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: Yes, we created truth.

723
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: Everybody can do that.

724
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I get that.

725
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: True.

726
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Speaker 2: Get well there's the flip side of it too for

727
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Speaker 2: Tick and our age. Yeah, I at that.

728
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: So that's explain to our listeners who are thinking about

729
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: doing a podcast what your business model is. So do

730
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: you advertise or what's your revenue model?

731
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: Our revenue Our revenue model is well, the best thing

732
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: that we do is the teasers on social media.

733
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: Do you.

734
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 3: I don't see our platforms really with Instagram based actually,

735
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: and then we do all that you know with with

736
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: TikTok YouTube, so sort of through that and then we've

737
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: had some sponsorship. We only just went on YouTube, and

738
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: it's taken us time to get there.

739
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: So we started it.

740
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: To we're doing it. We don't have.

741
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: Guys students as our baby, and so it's taken us

742
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: three years to our third gear now and now we've

743
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: turned it around and so now it's so.

744
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: We do mid ads pre adds. We'll do a teaser

745
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: and talk about a product only that we use.

746
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: We're doing find your advertisers responsors.

747
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: I actually find that I've got like ten at the

748
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: moment come to us and marketing.

749
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Speaker 3: And we've over the time too, we've had different.

750
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: Now we've got our numbers up, but you hustle, well,

751
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: we couldn't before obviously you know how it works the.

752
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: Start we did because you get numbers, you've got to

753
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: have numbers.

754
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: You've got to us, and we've got the numbers now

755
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: because there's a couple that want to come on board,

756
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: the big names, and they wanted to get to a

757
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: certain amount and we're reaching that very shortly.

758
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: So because what most people don't realize is that the

759
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: advertisers said that when you've got so many thousand downloads

760
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: or whatever the case, listeners or people following on Instagram

761
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: or people following a TikTok or all of them together,

762
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: then we'll sponsor you. They don't start at the beginning

763
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: of the year, or or they reset halfway during the year.

764
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: So you've got an advertising moral. You're not subscription.

765
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 3: We're not subscription. No, we're not yet, but that may come.

766
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: It is on YouTube not pay it, yeah, but not

767
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: the are you doing you?

768
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: I'm subscribed to the.

769
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: Men advertisers And does that work well for you?

770
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: The subscribe We've only just launched it, so okay, it's

771
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: actually a good model.

772
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: A lot of people do they more and more now

773
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: likely you will continuing on doing that. But it was

774
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 3: good because I actually want to find out something further

775
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: with you, Mark. And then I went to do it

776
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: and I was going, I have to be subscribed.

777
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: How we do it exactly? So?

778
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: And it annoys me. I get I rotated, not because

779
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: of you, but I need them do it now. I'm

780
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: dive CEO. I do that partty and it stopped. The

781
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: other day. I'm like, if you want to hear more?

782
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: And I'm like, ah wat and you still you won't.

783
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: What happened though, is you're either subscribe or you will

784
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: just listen to the free stuff, but you won't leave them. Yes, yeah,

785
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: you won't hate them that much that you leave.

786
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. It just annoyed me and there's quite

787
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: a few that I've gone, God, that's irritating.

788
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: But I think that's interesting with the whole lot of podcasts.

789
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you know more than anyone really mark, but

790
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: it is like, you know, you love a podcast, but

791
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: then sometimes you need to break, you know, because you

792
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: know you've really you know, had your feel on it,

793
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 3: and then it's like we've parted that for a while

794
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: and listen to something else, which you come back and

795
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: we sort of, you know, hope that with our podcast too.

796
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 3: We've got some really loyal listeners and that came as

797
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: a surprise to us. We did our first live event

798
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: this year and that was a hooch.

799
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: That was so that we were so shocked.

800
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: Did you do it?

801
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: Hell? About one hundred and eighty people and it was insane.

802
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: It's with a couple of all our guests were panel guests,

803
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: people who are on our podcast.

804
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 2: And it was great because you're talking about the podcast

805
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: and the model and whatever that's a really black Next year,

806
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: we're going to do Melbourne and what was the other

807
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: thing We're going to do next year in Melbourne and we.

808
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: Might want to do up to with the States as well, Marika, there's.

809
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: A possibility in La. But it's it's again you know,

810
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: that mindset of I really believe what we're doing is

811
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: a great thing, like as in you know, because it's uplifting.

812
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: I find some of the podcast can get a bit

813
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: heavy and coming back to my terminalogy boxing with the

814
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: genre where we're not we're not history and crime and

815
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: news and current affairs like you like Mark, I do

816
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: whatever you do.

817
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 3: At that live event, we had, we got people we

818
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: listened to your podcast, and we had someone came from Perth,

819
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 3: a few.

820
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: Came from were shocked and we've been asked to do

821
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: it in Melbourne next year and we went yeah it.

822
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: So what's new? What's next? I should say, what are

823
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: you going to do next? Like you've got you've got

824
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: a couple of podcasts America in America America, like guys

825
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: you remember like how popular Oprah.

826
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: Was, you know, like they see the audience as well,

827
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 3: like a lot we're in the talk circuits, Women's who

828
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: Loved a podcast, they featured us. I don't know how

829
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: they found us, but then they were saying a bit

830
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 3: like the Oprah and Gale or whatever. But that's sort

831
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: of not really, but it's just people sort of in America.

832
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: Good friends.

833
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever think yourselves, in your world as

834
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: dreams that you'd be doing this sort of something about

835
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: doing a roadshow in America?

836
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: Oh you know, yes, yeah, I always know. I come

837
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 2: back to media.

838
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 1: Doing a roadshow on America, your own show.

839
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: To me, I don't find any of that fine. I

840
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: find it so normal.

841
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: We find it's interesting because even when we did our

842
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: first live event, we hadn't done that before. We instantly

843
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: felt so at home. Sorry, no, we got excited.

844
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: I used to before a live show because I had

845
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: no order qure on those days. I had to remember

846
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: everyone's names and all the information and everything else. But

847
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: plus I went through a whole pregnancy with that too,

848
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: and that was not cool on camera in those days,

849
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: to be pregnant. You can't have a pregnant woman on camera.

850
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: You did it, I did it. But anyway, yeah, it's

851
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: and is your show scripted?

852
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: Sorry? Do you script your show.

853
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: We do.

854
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: We try.

855
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: We researched everyone.

856
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: Oh god, you know within any side.

857
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: Out because you love it, because you want to know

858
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: more and more.

859
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: But do you know if you guys from tangents like

860
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 2: you're a great into you because you're so chilled, Mark,

861
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 2: you just you allow the flow. And it's I think

862
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: that that's.

863
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: No one was about me when he was.

864
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: I know.

865
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: My audience likes to hear my guess.

866
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: Yes, one of your best interviews I've heard a lot.

867
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 2: We had the same guy on who we've since become

868
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: buddies with Tim Olson. I love the way you structured

869
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: and managed his emotions his life from beginning to end. Yes,

870
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: I was howling through it, but then I was laughing,

871
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: and then I wanted to hug him, and I want

872
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 2: to hug you and thank you for holding his space.

873
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 2: Well done.

874
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: A friend of the family for a long time. Yes,

875
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: and I brought a lot of bloody from you.

876
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: Well, i've since because we we knowed Tim quite well.

877
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: And the other one is Harry Triggerbov. He's a friend

878
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: of mine, my brothers. Colin scott'son.

879
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: You.

880
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: You just and he actually said to Colin great interview.

881
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: Mark Burrows he conducted a great interview just to get

882
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: that is a friend. He's a good dude and I'm sorry.

883
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: Be's a legend John Howard.

884
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't care what side you vote. He was strong

885
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: and brave leo, you know, to actually control got the

886
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: guns in this country. Like he's revered around the world

887
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: on both sides of politics. Like how did the dude

888
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: do that?

889
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to give a shout out to Ben Fordham.

890
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: I love the one with Benny.

891
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: I thought that was fantastic and it just he's such

892
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 3: a great guy and that just really came across. And

893
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: I'm really excited because I haven't heard from I just

894
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: saw it's about to drop. Is Mick Fanning Because I

895
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: made you when I flew for the Airlines for thirty

896
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: something years as a flight ATTENNT internationally and Mick was

897
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 3: one of those ones. Is a memory that stands out.

898
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: And I brought him back from South Africa. He is

899
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: in Jbay when he punched the does he talk about

900
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: about and he and the and the boys there and

901
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: he had he had all this Joel Parkinson and Ace

902
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: Buchanan and all these gorgeous hunks of men, and I

903
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: looked after them uh, and they it was like this

904
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: real brotherhood but that was such a fantastic one.

905
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: And he's right up there, micfan Nicholas. You'll see that

906
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: Mick is a he's a great leader leader. It turns

907
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: out he's a really good leader and good business and

908
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: he leads people into into events like when Liz Moore

909
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: how he got on the Musk and got Musk to

910
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: organize a whole lot of Skylink Internet systems to be

911
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: sent to Liz Moore. And then he got Mick doing

912
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: and put him in his helicopter and fly him around

913
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: and drop off very spots. He's a great organizer, great leader.

914
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: People are to follow him. He's quite amazing Mick Fanning.

915
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: And he's a traumatic traumatic line too. Let's you know,

916
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: often you when you're interviewing people and Nicola too, like

917
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: we talk about it a bit often. You know people

918
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: that are you, they're born with the spinner all there,

919
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: they've got everything and whatever. And I think, you know,

920
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: I have to say sixty percent of the people we interview,

921
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 2: against all odds, they've survived, a been successful and a

922
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: souring and giving back to others. So Mick Fanning class

923
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: the example of what you were just saying, and you know,

924
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: with his family, like my god, it's very.

925
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: Very much, but he's just chillill. He knows what but

926
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: he also knows he's very he's very h calculator, and

927
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: he like you know, he knows how to win an

928
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: event of the world, and he knows how to be

929
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: Keilly Slater of all people like you know that that's

930
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: pretty heavy, being able to be a dude like that,

931
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: Like you know, he's the goat and he has beaten

932
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: him and he's been Joel and he's been like many others.

933
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: He's very good. But today I interviewed before you guys

934
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: came in, had Tony, and Tony has launched a book

935
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: and it's going to come out a couple of days podcast.

936
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: But I asked Tony who was the best, who was

937
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: Australia's greatest prime minister? And he said, obviously you could

938
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: have set himself because anyone else.

939
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 5: He won.

940
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: Hawk, Bob Hawk and of course John Howard, of course,

941
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: and politics didn't left. But he said Bob Hawk and

942
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: John Howard. And I thought that whether I'm maybe because

943
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm around his vintage slightly older, but I see them

944
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: their two greatest politicians I.

945
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: Get that, and you know what they were. They were

946
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: the great hockey is related. You could relate to them.

947
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: Remember the America's carp. I loved Jim, you.

948
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: Know, like anyone who doesn't give him a staff member

949
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: was a bump.

950
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly right, and I went, oh my god, I

951
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: think you are the greatest. And other people, you know,

952
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 2: you can't do that. Game's real.

953
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: There wasn't after two weeks of polling. And he just

954
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: said it and he just got I loved it and

955
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: he could get away with that too. And John Howard

956
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: was like the the forever Statesman and everything he ever

957
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: did right down the middle, straight to them, very very

958
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: couraging Mark Cookies and we talked about courage, the important

959
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: of courage. We don't actually trying to get Julia Gillard

960
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: on the show. I think she was quite a courageous woman,

961
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: Julia against all us totally. I'd like to get her

962
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: on the show. And do you see much courage from

963
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: your guests, you know, do you? And what do you

964
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: think of courage and how important Because the courage is

965
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: always talked about by men, what about women?

966
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: I think you know what courage is too, is so ability.

967
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: I think it's really when people really saying you've seen it,

968
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: maybe with first with me, but it's when really they are.

969
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: Showing their vulnerability there.

970
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 3: And I think that's really courageous to be really honest

971
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: and go, you know, I stuffed up here. I made

972
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: the biggest mistake.

973
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: I wish I had done that differently.

974
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: I know those things there. I go, well, I so

975
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 3: admire that, and I.

976
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 2: Think, I think definitely, I think that. I think of letters,

977
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: I think of the word yes. I think when someone

978
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: uses the word. These young guys here in the studio,

979
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: remember this the word yes, because there's so much easier.

980
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: As we all know, I can't be bothered. I don't

981
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: want to do that. I can't do that. I could

982
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: never do that. They can do that. I can't do that.

983
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: But why yes, why not say yes? Step into it,

984
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: you know, jump off at the saw. You know, I

985
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: really like an eagle that people are turn it around

986
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: and say, yes, we.

987
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: Got her own because she actually it was published in

988
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: the in the magazines, and she was like the year

989
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: of yes, and that was when her husband had died

990
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: and she was a younger mother with two georgeous girls,

991
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: and she starts her own supplement their women, and she

992
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: was like the year of yes, she's American from pole

993
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 3: dancing now.

994
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: You know, and so its just I used to say

995
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 2: no a lot. Yeah I did, but I think I

996
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: say no.

997
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 3: We find out too. Is like a lot of women

998
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 3: have avol sort of like when born around that generation

999
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: was sort of like raised a bit as people pleases,

1000
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 3: you know, you sort of you go first or you

1001
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 3: do that. It's funny you get to this stage now

1002
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: and it's sort of like kicked down that door going

1003
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 3: you know, like yes, but sometimes yes for ourselves without

1004
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 3: it being because there's always been your selfish.

1005
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: She shouldn't do that way. We're going no like.

1006
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: That No, but women often like I can't feel that way.

1007
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 3: You'd feel your you go and then you go no,

1008
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: you know, but you in your mind, mum, you shouldn't

1009
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 3: feel that way.

1010
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 2: When she was a do you remember what she said?

1011
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 2: Mum was away, you'd love my moms. The most amazing

1012
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: woman who's passed on that she said when she turned davy,

1013
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: she said, because I said, Mom, you can't say that,

1014
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: She went, darling, I'm eighty, I can say do what

1015
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: I want. And I went wow, and that really washed

1016
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: all over me. And I thought, damn it, that's courage. Yeah, exactly.

1017
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 2: I love that anymore.

1018
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 5: It's like you can say, well, you know, when I'm

1019
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 5: loving with the younger ones too, they could say a

1020
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 5: lot of them have that courage and they just go

1021
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 5: straight out there and they're not afraid to that or

1022
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 5: they're not afraid to question their boss, and so hey,

1023
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 5: you know that's so were we within reason with the reason,

1024
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 5: but to question your boss when you you know, like

1025
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 5: we're growing up. You know, when I was gone with

1026
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 5: the airlines, you wouldn't do it, but you were told Nichola,

1027
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 5: you're doing this.

1028
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: Or something.

1029
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: You know, you wouldn't sort of speak up that way.

1030
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 3: Whereas now that's all changed. But I think you en

1031
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: courage that real And that's what I love with courage.

1032
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 3: And everyone's got their own story in whatever way it is.

1033
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: The courage is a key thing hero like it's't. We

1034
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: don't talk enough about courage and what it means. And

1035
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: I think younger people don't really get to talk about

1036
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: these sorts of things like virtues like courage and you know,

1037
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: consistency and hard work, and I mean, no one, no

1038
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: one shares that stuff with them, and you know, I.

1039
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: Think by example, but it's also to be afraid to

1040
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 3: don't be afraid to fail, because to have courage. I

1041
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 3: mean luck, you know with the podcast, whenever a lot

1042
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: of people go, I wouldn't do that. Well if it

1043
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 3: didn't work, well it doesn't work, you know, like it

1044
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: sort of don't be afraid, and you know we do

1045
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 3: stuff ups, Things happen, and I think that's the thing too.

1046
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: You got to go okay, stopped up.

1047
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: I see compassion with courage. I put it like, you know,

1048
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: if someone says I can't do that, I often think,

1049
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: if you here's someone who's so near it, I.

1050
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: Just been telling them that they can't do it. Sorry,

1051
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: who's been telling them that they can't do that?

1052
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: And then it's about compassion, holding that space exactly what

1053
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 2: you just said and help them unravel that. I'm not

1054
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: being a counselor, but just understanding where it it's coming from,

1055
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: being compassionate, allowing space for them to move forward to

1056
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: to head towards being more courageous or brave in your world.

1057
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: Do you know when someone said you can't do this? Yes,

1058
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: and that's what with people now going well, all of

1059
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 3: a sudden, someone else people say not have done it before,

1060
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 3: but I'm going to try to do well.

1061
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: That's a great thing about what you guys do so

1062
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: people can see what you've done and you did it

1063
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: later on in life. Yes, and it worked. By the way,

1064
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: it's you were believing mistakes. You're going to learn from it,

1065
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: You're going to get better at it. I mean, you

1066
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: remember your first podcast, but compared to one hundred and

1067
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: fiftieth podcasts, the first thing, you think that was terrible.

1068
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: And I remember my very first podcast. I had six guests.

1069
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: What was I thinking?

1070
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: What were you thinking?

1071
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. No idea. My son, my youngest, my

1072
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: second youngest son was my production to no idea, you

1073
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: know what we're doing. It was right overy beginning.

1074
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: What's courage to you?

1075
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: Courage it's somewhere between being well, being reckless and fearless

1076
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: on one end and down the other end it's being

1077
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: a coward. So it's somewhere in between. It's not exactly

1078
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: in the middle. It's and I think for everybody it's different. Yes,

1079
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: for me, I tend to be more towards the reckless

1080
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: feeling flying love. The coward end could also be that

1081
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: you're someone who doesn't like to take risk. And I

1082
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: don't mean you're out now coward. You've got you're much

1083
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: more risk averse down this end. And I can tell

1084
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: you and my definition of courage for me is is

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00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: different at different stages of my life. So when I

1086
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: was younger, I was way at the other end, fearless end.

1087
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: That was my level of courage. I would sales reckless,

1088
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: but I was borderline.

1089
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 2: You just bowl.

1090
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, there's probably you know, hormonally driven, because

1091
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: you've probably got a lot more testostrange's a lot more

1092
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: like risk, not as risk averse. As I get older,

1093
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, we started mellowing a bit more defensive. So

1094
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: it's sort of moving back towards this way. I don't

1095
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: want to get past halfway if I can. So yeah,

1096
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: So courage is in I doing measurement sense, But so

1097
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: I like to measure it in that sort of.

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00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 2: Love hearing that I think he's courageous because you're the

1099
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: mentor tell me. I want to ask you, what what

1100
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: do you gain from interviewing people?

1101
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: Now?

1102
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 3: Social life, I'm lucky to hear that, you know what,

1103
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 3: we're the same.

1104
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: Actually, so, okay, social life, I hear, But how much

1105
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: of that goes beyond.

1106
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: It does beyond, okay, but I do plenty of them.

1107
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: So I'll do four hours or three or four hours

1108
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: worth of socializing and I get paid, and I learned,

1109
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: and I learned about things, and then I also get

1110
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: to meet people that would not not otherwise get to meet.

1111
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: So I feel and that actually helps me then feel

1112
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: grateful and practice gratitude and maybe learn something about myself.

1113
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: And when I learned from you guys, I learned. I

1114
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: try to pick up one little thing or be reminded

1115
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: of something already knew or something learn from us normally,

1116
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 1: normally I normally I reflect on these things. So because

1117
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: at the end of every day, I sit down and

1118
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: try and bank little things. What's bankable? What do I

1119
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: learn today? What valuable things do I get that I

1120
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: can put into the bank?

1121
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: Language that's we love, that's very healthful.

1122
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 3: So we share that the same with our podcast. You know,

1123
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 3: we do flow sometimes from the podcast. It flows over

1124
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 3: and we do have a sort of social life as well.

1125
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 3: But the the biggest gift as well is the friendship

1126
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 3: we get with every single person because we're going it's

1127
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 3: a connection, whether they laugh or cry, it's a real thing,

1128
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 3: and it's so fantastic, Like it's I can see what

1129
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 3: you're feel that like I feel. Now. I've got a

1130
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 3: new friend in Mark.

1131
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: Fors what we do.

1132
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: We're and.

1133
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate the opportunity to sit down and talk to

1134
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: you guys. And I want more females on the show,

1135
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: so some women.

1136
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: Come on regularly. Amazing.

1137
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: I was actually feeling quite tired. Today is my time,

1138
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, you get tired, and and I was getting

1139
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 1: I was getting that period. And then I didn't realize

1140
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: I had another podcast, and the boys said was going on,

1141
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: and I said, there's one more podcast, and but you

1142
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: give me great energy, So die Woods and I'm going

1143
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: to do a reverse Nicola. Good to see you guys.

1144
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: Thanks you pleasure you guys who are going They're so

1145
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: good that the boys beautiful.

1146
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: We will, Charlie and Anthony and they were so excitable

1147
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: coming on.

1148
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: We will.

1149
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1150
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: So I think they're one of the originals the O

1151
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: G S. I think they are sure have it honored that. Yeah,

1152
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: So I'm just shout out to the Puda Boys and

1153
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: you guys. Thanks very much.

1154
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: Thanks Mark. I loved every minute of it.

1155
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: Thank you