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Speaker 2: Crazy Crazy Crazy The Village Crazy Lady Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends,
Speaker 2: and welcome to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady.
Speaker 2: This week, I've got a Village crazy man on the
Speaker 2: podcast with me, Matt Galaia, who is an astrologist, author
Speaker 2: of How to Spot the Star, Signed and managing editor
Speaker 2: of Pedestrian TV, and also so many other things. I
Speaker 2: mean Matt was saying before, like he's into Wika, he's
Speaker 2: reading a book about gypsy Like, how was that?
Speaker 3: Matt? Does that well explained or barely touches.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, that that is all me in the nutshell.
Speaker 1: There's not much more to me than that. There's a
Speaker 1: whole lot there. I've been so into this stuff since
Speaker 1: I was like five years old. This is very much,
Speaker 1: very much. Yeah, what my makeup is? What about you?
Speaker 1: When did you kind of start getting into spiritualism. Was
Speaker 1: it from a child age?
Speaker 3: Well? No, that's like what's got me so interested? Straight away?
Speaker 2: You're like, you know, I started this when I was
Speaker 2: five years old, and I was about to say, how
Speaker 2: did you get into this?
Speaker 3: I was more of a late bloomer.
Speaker 2: I grew up in the church, so it was very
Speaker 2: much something that like was intuitively within me, and then
Speaker 2: I had to sort of do a lot of questioning
Speaker 2: as I got older. But so since five years old,
Speaker 2: has this just always been what you've sort of done
Speaker 2: and how you've felt and how you've connected.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what always And I also grew up
Speaker 1: in the church, but I was a bit of a
Speaker 1: double agent. I guess I love that, but it's kind
Speaker 1: of like I think also it was kind of like,
Speaker 1: it's funny, I've been studying my like psychology of like
Speaker 1: why I am, how I am and things like that,
Speaker 1: and I just think, so, so here's what happened that
Speaker 1: I realized. So I was five years old, I kind
Speaker 1: of knew I was different from everyone else, and so
Speaker 1: I kind of turned to shows and TV shows and
Speaker 1: movies and parts of popular culture about people that were different,
Speaker 1: one of them being charmed for example, which is very
Speaker 1: on brand RP. Channon Dollity, and I kind of became
Speaker 1: obsessed with that, obsessed with witches. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of that stuff in the nineties. There was you know,
Speaker 1: hopeus Pocus, there was the craft, practical magic, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Kind of became obsessed with that, obsessed with casting spells
Speaker 1: and the things like that, and from there that was
Speaker 1: my gateway that got me into everything else. And the
Speaker 1: gay thing that I was saying is because when you're
Speaker 1: young and you feel like you're kind of different from
Speaker 1: everyone else, you kind of get to a point where
Speaker 1: you're just like, all right, well, bucket, I'm already kind
Speaker 1: of like on the outskirts of society. I might as
Speaker 1: well just go full weird with it. And I kind
Speaker 1: of did. Like it wasn't an intentional choice, it was
Speaker 1: just a psychological I think that's kind of how it
Speaker 1: all happened. So my point is, so the gateway for
Speaker 1: me was definitely like wicker like when it comes to
Speaker 1: like spells, crystals, all that kind of tarot. I had
Speaker 1: my first taro deck at ten years old. It was
Speaker 1: like a coloring in deck. I was very obsessed. And
Speaker 1: then yeah, from there. I kind of yeah, I was
Speaker 1: always interested in astrology, but in terms of full on
Speaker 1: becoming obsessed reading everything, becoming an astrologer, that happened in
Speaker 1: the last ten years. I'd say when I started working
Speaker 1: at Dolly magazine also rip, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Was reci thank you for everything.
Speaker 1: I was a little Dolly left off. Yes, I was
Speaker 1: the entertainment writer. But while I was there, I was
Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, what are your thoughts on, you know,
Speaker 1: bringing back There was a section that used to be
Speaker 1: we had archives there in the magazine of like all
Speaker 1: the dollies since time began. So can you imagine what
Speaker 1: a dream that was walking in and there's just wall
Speaker 1: to walls, just like dollies from Dolly magazines from now
Speaker 1: until like when you know it's inception. And I was
Speaker 1: just reading through like the Naughty's issues with you know,
Speaker 1: home and o wast on the cover and things like that,
Speaker 1: and I saw that there was a section in there
Speaker 1: called Dolly Destiny, and I was like, that had just
Speaker 1: a bunch of expels and horoscopes and things like that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, can we bring this back? Would
Speaker 1: you guys mind? And they were like, yeah, no, let's
Speaker 1: do it. And we did it and it popped off,
Speaker 1: and that kind of gave me the confidence. And since then,
Speaker 1: every other publication that I've worked at I've kind of
Speaker 1: fused you know, writing about horoscopes and with her type
Speaker 1: stuff into the job. So that's what I did at
Speaker 1: Pedestrian as well. Yeah, eventually I got to a prot
Speaker 1: where I was like, Okay, I've been collecting all these
Speaker 1: astrology books and witchy books. It's time to I'm going
Speaker 1: to see if I can get one of my own
Speaker 1: off the ground. And I did. Here it is out
Speaker 1: of Spot the Star Signs. Yeah, it came out last year,
Speaker 1: so it's about astrological compatibility and so. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: to answer your question, to this day, I'm still just
Speaker 1: as interested in all of it. But yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of just been like a lifelong not so much a mission,
Speaker 1: but just kind of like a lifelong interest that it's
Speaker 1: just there's something where there's just so much which, so
Speaker 1: much information, like it's never ending, and like each month
Speaker 1: I'll just become obsessed with a random different part of
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I might study you know, palm reading
Speaker 1: this month, and then the next week, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: be interested in I'll go back to Taro. It's like
Speaker 1: there's just so much there and it's just and it's
Speaker 1: not even just the fascination with you know, oh it's
Speaker 1: so cool it can predict the future. It's also just
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's cool, it's magic. It works that.
Speaker 1: It's more so that it's like, I love how it
Speaker 1: can benefit people's lives and provide answers and a sense
Speaker 1: of understanding. And you know, there is just so much
Speaker 1: mystery and confusion and like why is this happening to me?
Speaker 1: And that's an astrology can provide the answer to that,
Speaker 1: as can you know, you know, psychics and all other
Speaker 1: different things. And I think that's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Can you talk about because I love how you just said,
Speaker 2: like it's been something that's in your life for just
Speaker 2: forever and it's just like this constant like information just
Speaker 2: drinking up. Can you think of the ways that it's
Speaker 2: really helped you?
Speaker 1: Honestly? It's oh so like I have this book it's
Speaker 1: called a Book of Shadows, where you write in there
Speaker 1: different like spells and chants and information on anything that
Speaker 1: you'd need in your life. And I started it in
Speaker 1: two thousand and five and I'm still adding to it
Speaker 1: to this day and not just adding to it, but
Speaker 1: I'll look, there'll be a day where, you know, as
Speaker 1: an example, maybe I'm going for a promotion and I'll
Speaker 1: go back to this book with all this this information
Speaker 1: that I've gathered from different sources that like I started
Speaker 1: when I was, you know, a teenager, and find information
Speaker 1: in there that will help me different like spells and
Speaker 1: things like that. Like to this day, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: if i'd need a promotion or anything like that, I'll
Speaker 1: use spells that I wrote in there when I was
Speaker 1: like a kid. And so it's just so crazy. It's
Speaker 1: like past me talking to present me. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's so that's kind of been really helpful, and it's
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where it's kind of like
Speaker 1: my thing with all kinds of spirituality is like, let's
Speaker 1: just say to the skeptics, let's just say, if you know,
Speaker 1: if they think it's BS and whatever else, the point
Speaker 1: is it's the power of positive thinking and it puts
Speaker 1: positive intentions into the universe. And whoever the person is,
Speaker 1: that's kind of like, you know, utilizing this stuff, it
Speaker 1: makes them feel positive and feel like something's happening. And
Speaker 1: it gives them some encouragement. And so that's exactly what
Speaker 1: it does. Whenever I feel lost, I kind of turn
Speaker 1: to it. It gives you a sense of purpose as
Speaker 1: your all religions. I think that's you know, whether you're Catholic, Muslim,
Speaker 1: no matter what. Like it's kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a sense of purpose and believing that there's something
Speaker 1: out there that's beyond you, because it's a terrifying thought
Speaker 1: to think that, you know, the buck stops with you.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, there are angels, and there are spirits,
Speaker 1: and there are guys, and so it's all just guidance
Speaker 1: letting you know that you're not alone, and you know,
Speaker 1: everything has a purpose. When shit things happen, you think
Speaker 1: why is this happening to me? And it's like there's
Speaker 1: always a reason. The universe is, you know, putting you
Speaker 1: on this path, you know, giving you all these trials
Speaker 1: and tribulations for a particular reason. And all this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff helps you to you know, realize that there
Speaker 1: is a path and the purpose. But also if you're
Speaker 1: ever stuff, you can call upon your guide, so you can,
Speaker 1: you know, do this chance and it will kind of
Speaker 1: help you along your path. So it's it's honestly, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's kept me going since I was a kid
Speaker 1: kind of thing, all different chapters of my life. I
Speaker 1: can think of times where I've relied on this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff from like high school, dealing with issues that
Speaker 1: I you know that I might have had there to
Speaker 1: as I said, you know, promotions, love spells, things like that.
Speaker 1: My partner, who have been with for six years, like I,
Speaker 1: you know, that was all love magic. You're got you
Speaker 1: rose crystals. You know. Literally he's so into it now
Speaker 1: as well that I'm teaching. I'm teaching lots of things
Speaker 1: we do like readings all the time, but yeah, crystals
Speaker 1: and love rose coorts crystals and things like that. I
Speaker 1: used to use those quite a lot. So yeah, So honestly,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that's just like for every
Speaker 1: facet of my life, it's like it's been really helpful,
Speaker 1: Like as I said, every facet of my life, but
Speaker 1: also every chapter of my life from when I was
Speaker 1: young to now. Yeah, it's just it's been my main
Speaker 1: constant that's kind of kept me going. I like, it's
Speaker 1: funny to listeners, I sound like a mad man, but
Speaker 1: it's kept me saying strangely, you know, because it's given
Speaker 1: me kind of a clear path and a direction. And yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's my thing. I'm like, I just encourage everyone
Speaker 1: to dabble into it, even a little bit. You don't
Speaker 1: have to go full on make it your life's mission
Speaker 1: like me. But it's like it's it really is there
Speaker 1: when you need it, and it's not dark or scary.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to help you and guide you. And like
Speaker 1: with astrology, my big thing with astrology is that it's,
Speaker 1: like I write in my book, it's a series of
Speaker 1: cool clubs that everyone belongs to because it's kind of
Speaker 1: like with like no one is, no one's left out,
Speaker 1: everyone has a star sign. Yeah you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like no one, no one's left out, no one's like,
Speaker 1: oh this is you know, with a lot of it's
Speaker 1: not like, for example, with Catholicism, for example, it's like
Speaker 1: we love everyone except for the gays, and except for
Speaker 1: people of other religions and except for this and except
Speaker 1: for that. No. Astrology is like everyone belongs and not
Speaker 1: only do you belong, but we're going to tell you
Speaker 1: just you know, astrologers are religion. But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: in terms of like, you know, the way of thinking.
Speaker 1: It's going to tell you like how to get along
Speaker 1: with all the other people that are around you, and
Speaker 1: why you are how you are calling you out for
Speaker 1: your negative traits but saying yes, of course you're like
Speaker 1: that because you're a Capricorn or because you're a Scorpio
Speaker 1: or whatever it may be, but also celebrating your beautiful
Speaker 1: traits and saying that you know, yes, yes you may
Speaker 1: do this, but you also do this and that's great
Speaker 1: and it offers purpose and understanding and yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think that's beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that was so well said.
Speaker 2: Everything about how you just like explained astrology just then
Speaker 2: felt like such a penny drop, especially like the inclusivity
Speaker 2: of it, because that's so true, and just the ability
Speaker 2: to recognize the shadow parts of yourself and because like
Speaker 2: that's the hard thing right now, and that's what I
Speaker 2: really loved when I was starting to, you know, when
Speaker 2: on my journey of like dabble, I you know, learned
Speaker 2: about an astrology and my astrology and it really was
Speaker 2: just like, Okay, this feels like I'm just getting to
Speaker 2: like read a book about myself and like really see
Speaker 2: it in front of me and understand and like, you know, an,
Speaker 2: I'm an Aquarius with a Leo moon and a cancer
Speaker 2: rising and a Capricorn stellion, So just to give you
Speaker 2: an idea, So I was like, very it's quite obvious,
Speaker 2: and I'm like reading I remember looking into sort of,
Speaker 2: you know, the more shadow parts of all of these
Speaker 2: different elements of me, and it was really confronting in
Speaker 2: quite a beautiful way, because I think what it does
Speaker 2: is it takes away the shame it kind of makes you.
Speaker 3: And it's sort of like the more that.
Speaker 2: You learn about astrology, the more compassionate and understanding you
Speaker 2: have for other people, because you're like, no one's fucking perfect.
Speaker 2: We all have these real shadow parts to ourselves and
Speaker 2: we can also of grow from those parts vesselves.
Speaker 3: And also how.
Speaker 2: Can I judge someone when really what I'm just like,
Speaker 2: it's more about the fact that they're just really different
Speaker 2: to me, and that's really beautiful and I can just
Speaker 2: learn to understand them more as opposed to just like
Speaker 2: fuck you, why why don't you behave like I do?
Speaker 2: Because you talk about in your book, you talk a
Speaker 2: lot about relationships and compatibility, which is something we haven't
Speaker 2: spoken at all on this podcast about in relation to astrology.
Speaker 2: Can you talk about that a little bit more? Because
Speaker 2: some people have no fucking idea about astrology listening to.
Speaker 1: This I can do. Okay, So this is going to
Speaker 1: blow people's minds. There's no such thing as a doomed relationship.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, all relationships, like all, everyone has the
Speaker 1: possibility to make a relationship work. The most compatible partners
Speaker 1: will still have issues because as human beings, like it's
Speaker 1: natural where there are two human beings, there will be issues,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, it's just as simple
Speaker 1: as that, no matter how you know much of charts
Speaker 1: overlap and whatever have you. But even if, for example,
Speaker 1: like in my book, I say, even if I kind
Speaker 1: of got a scale that like ranks like how compatible
Speaker 1: you are and even the ones that are incompatible, that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that when you go on a date with
Speaker 1: a person that you know astrology says is incompatible with you,
Speaker 1: and you find out they're sign and it's you know,
Speaker 1: an opposing sign to yours, that doesn't mean that you
Speaker 1: should get up and walk out. That just means that, okay,
Speaker 1: there will be some difficulties to expect that but it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's never impossible. There's always a way to
Speaker 1: work around it. Because again, this like it's not saying
Speaker 1: you're doom stay away from each other, everyone's staying. There's
Speaker 1: segregated groups. Absolutely not, it's saying it's just letting you
Speaker 1: know that, like all relationships, you will have issues. These
Speaker 1: are what the issues are likely to be, and here's
Speaker 1: how you can work with them, and and and kind
Speaker 1: of you know, be prepared and and manage those those
Speaker 1: sorts of issues. So it's kind of it's acknowledging you know,
Speaker 1: everyone's light and shade and who you know will get
Speaker 1: along and who won't. But it's no relationship chips are
Speaker 1: doomed kind of thing, like like you can always make
Speaker 1: it work. There's always there's always a way. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but it also just can be really really helpful into
Speaker 1: because yeah, people find that the thing is non believers
Speaker 1: of astrology have really come around to how accurate it
Speaker 1: is through the through dating, through dating and realizing like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I was warned that I would have
Speaker 1: issues with Gemini men, and I bloody well do. It's
Speaker 1: like it's so fascinating that that's what's made people come
Speaker 1: around when you apply it to your love life. I
Speaker 1: think people kind of get skeptical when you apply it
Speaker 1: to your day to day life. And I blame that
Speaker 1: on things like, you know, kind of crappy newspaper horoscopes.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to compatibility, that's what's made astrology
Speaker 1: have this boom. Like so I've noticed, for I tell
Speaker 1: the story of the time. But so when I started
Speaker 1: Pedestrian in twenty eighteen, and as I said to you,
Speaker 1: whenever I go to a workplace, I think, how can
Speaker 1: I turn this website into astrology dot com? No objective?
Speaker 1: But no, but I did pick no, no, I'm so technical,
Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on me just rolling out
Speaker 1: some like regular horoscopes every now and then they said
Speaker 1: go for it, and so I started doing that and
Speaker 1: it was kind of it was kind of fresh. I
Speaker 1: think they've written about like mercury retrade in the past,
Speaker 1: but never just like you know, regular horoscopes anyway, and
Speaker 1: it's funny like back then, so twenty eighteen, so six
Speaker 1: years ago. I think honestly, when it comes to the
Speaker 1: good thing about working online rather than print is that
Speaker 1: you can see how many people are clicking on your articles.
Speaker 1: And you can also see how they feel about the
Speaker 1: articles because they're leading comments obviously on the post, which
Speaker 1: is actually helpful. As scary and annoying as it can be,
Speaker 1: it's very helpful to gauge what people are into and
Speaker 1: what they're not and where the conversations go. And I
Speaker 1: noticed that the commentary, it would be sixty percent of
Speaker 1: people being like, yes, astrology tag and their friends, Oh
Speaker 1: look this, look what it said about you, Look what's
Speaker 1: said about me. And then there was like forty percent
Speaker 1: of people being like, what the fuck is happened you pedestrian?
Speaker 1: You've lost the plot? Yeah kind of thing. But we
Speaker 1: persevered and from then until now, Honestly, I can't tell
Speaker 1: you I write about astrology on there every week. I
Speaker 1: cannot remember the last time I had a negative comment.
Speaker 1: Like people are just full on like into it now
Speaker 1: because that when you think about it, the last few years,
Speaker 1: it's taken over social media. Ye, it's because there are
Speaker 1: so many apps that people have like co Star and
Speaker 1: the pattern like Channing Tatum has the pattern like who
Speaker 1: did known? Like So my point is just like straight
Speaker 1: men even who wouldn't typically be into it into it's
Speaker 1: like it's become a lot more respected and received. And yeah,
Speaker 1: people like genuinely take it seriously. But that's my thing
Speaker 1: as well. I always say, I write to my book,
Speaker 1: it's a guide, it's not gospel. Like take it on
Speaker 1: as like a guide to help you, but don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is a concern with people swinging too far the
Speaker 1: other way and reading it like it is the gospel
Speaker 1: and being like, Okay, we don't. We're not compatible. Therefore
Speaker 1: I'm writing you off or having preconceived notions about some
Speaker 1: someone because typically when you meet someone, let's say, if
Speaker 1: you do ask them what their sign is and they
Speaker 1: tell you, oh, I'm a capcorn, and then you all
Speaker 1: these assumptions about them. Yeah, but so that's their sun sign.
Speaker 1: You haven't considered the entire chart. So maybe typically you
Speaker 1: don't get along with sun signs, But what about the
Speaker 1: moon sign that's your emotions? You know, things like that.
Speaker 1: In terms of relationships, there's also the venus sign, which
Speaker 1: is how you love, the mercury sign and how you communicate.
Speaker 1: So there's so many different pieces of the puzzle. You
Speaker 1: can't a You shouldn't write people off at all, because
Speaker 1: you know you don't want to make judgment some people,
Speaker 1: but b you certainly shouldn't based on just one sign.
Speaker 1: It's a guy to kind of help you. It is
Speaker 1: a good indication, and so it can be helpful and
Speaker 1: do take that on board, and you know I certainly do,
Speaker 1: but it's just not it's more of a FYI. This
Speaker 1: is what astrology says. But go ahead and see how
Speaker 1: your relationship goes. And you know you can at least
Speaker 1: you've been forewarned. All I'm saying is it shouldn't be gospel.
Speaker 3: It's a guide, yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And I feel like just the relationship side of that,
Speaker 2: Like that's not even just romantic relationships, that's friendships.
Speaker 3: That's colleagues, yes, and like.
Speaker 2: In regards to like communicating and even for people listening,
Speaker 2: like your kids as well. You know, I've found that
Speaker 2: understanding my kids' astrology charts and kids are like it's
Speaker 2: so funny because like adults, you kind of grow up
Speaker 2: moving away from yourself a lot, because you know, we're
Speaker 2: trying to survive into society.
Speaker 3: Children aren't there. Yeah, they just are, so they're pretty
Speaker 3: accurately their.
Speaker 1: Charts a depletion of the sign. Yeah, yeah, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: really funny to bring this up, this whole conversation about
Speaker 1: children and their astrologies. It's so interesting that one of
Speaker 1: my best friends, she and her partner, they're both quite
Speaker 1: into astrology, and so they were almost like tailoring when
Speaker 1: they were going to conceive around the sign that they
Speaker 1: wanted their child to be bloody works. They were like,
Speaker 1: they were like, Okay, we're going to have a watertime baby.
Speaker 1: We specifically want it to be a scorpio cancer. I'm
Speaker 1: a scorpio, I'm her best friend. And guess what the
Speaker 1: child's birth date is going to be my exact birthday.
Speaker 1: So it worked whatever their plan was, they timed it
Speaker 1: out perfectly. But it's just such a funny like new
Speaker 1: age parenty thing where it's like that has become, you know,
Speaker 1: like just something that's even considered and for example, speaking
Speaker 1: of like new age, like where it's come. So I'm
Speaker 1: now a hiring manager. I have been for the for
Speaker 1: the last year year in a bit, so I hire
Speaker 1: the staff a pedition and there was a time where
Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder if I can answer what
Speaker 1: their signs are? Like, No, probably not. It's probably like
Speaker 1: asking someone's age. That's a definite hr issue. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to do that. But either way, as I said,
Speaker 1: it's also the thing. It's also when it comes to colleagues,
Speaker 1: it is like going on dates where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know you may not get a long long in
Speaker 1: these areas, but here's how you're going to work on it.
Speaker 1: You're just going to you know, avoid these things and
Speaker 1: you know, bolster them with these different things. So it's
Speaker 1: never a doomed thing, but it's always just a thing
Speaker 1: that you know.
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting because I do that. I literally
Speaker 2: like I'm like, what's your birthday? I love like I
Speaker 2: meet people and straight away I'm just because I think
Speaker 2: it kind of feel like it's it's just it's like little, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm getting a little bit of a I'm getting a
Speaker 2: picture of what I could be dealing with or like
Speaker 2: you know, in relationships or friendships or whatever. Like I know,
Speaker 2: if I know enough about their main signs, I kind
Speaker 2: of get an idea of what their communication style might be.
Speaker 3: You know, like if you're dating an.
Speaker 2: Aquarius, don't expect many replies, don't talk to them too much,
Speaker 2: don't you know, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where and that doesn't indicate that they're not interested.
Speaker 1: They're just not geminis who are like this but all day,
Speaker 1: like what are you doing? Like, It's just it's just
Speaker 1: who they are. So it just helps you become aware
Speaker 1: of that. So it can be helpful in that the
Speaker 1: ones I have the worst rap I find a Capricorn, Scorpio,
Speaker 1: and Gemini, which I've mentioned a few times. I'm a
Speaker 1: scorpion myself.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, and do you know what's so interesting?
Speaker 2: They're three of my favorite signs. I like, get along
Speaker 2: so well. Geminized, I get along with so well, especially
Speaker 2: women geminis.
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with them. Same with Scorpio, same with Capricorns.
Speaker 1: My thing that I always rant is that I don't
Speaker 1: really see the gender in astrology all that much. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, you know, all scorpios are fairly
Speaker 1: similar men, women, whatever, Like that's just my opinion, Like
Speaker 1: everyone has a different take on it. The sign where
Speaker 1: I see the do see the big gender thing is
Speaker 1: with Gemini. Gemini women are the best, best, best, best
Speaker 1: best people and Gemini, like Trump is a Gemini, Kanye
Speaker 1: elon maskall these like awful men are all geminized, but
Speaker 1: the Gemini women are the best people you live.
Speaker 2: Okay, that is so interesting because that is literally my
Speaker 2: experience as well, and I'm very much the same.
Speaker 3: I've always just like never seen gender.
Speaker 2: Especially in astrology, except I've always noticed every single fuck
Speaker 2: with that I know is my own Gemini.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. That's like they have such a bad rap
Speaker 1: and dating, but the guys, not the girls, And I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, they bring it on themselves again and it's
Speaker 1: not a blanket thing, but it does happen a bit
Speaker 1: too often. That's my thing. Which astrology is just like
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. It's just it's too act
Speaker 1: to not be really like you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: once you just start applying it to your life and
Speaker 1: looking at the people in your life that are different signs,
Speaker 1: it's just like, oh my god, it makes so much sense,
Speaker 1: Like you can't ignore how accurate it is. Like once
Speaker 1: you start applying it to your day to day life
Speaker 1: and think about the people that you do and don't
Speaker 1: get along with and where their chart falls, like what
Speaker 1: their sun sign is compared to yours, it's just like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: so yes, one hundred.
Speaker 2: How are some other ways that people can use astrology
Speaker 2: that you find that they don't really or that it's
Speaker 2: not really talked about very much because you know, everyone
Speaker 2: knows they're like a lot of people know their stuff.
Speaker 2: There's sun sign, but like maybe not much else up.
Speaker 1: So for example, your communication sign, let's face, communication is
Speaker 1: everything how we communicate with other people, how so how
Speaker 1: you're perceived things like that. So that's your mercury sign.
Speaker 1: So if you look at your mercury sign, that might
Speaker 1: be more helpful when you're maybe if you're looking at
Speaker 1: when if you're trying to navigate the workplace and you're
Speaker 1: trying to think of, okay, so how do I get
Speaker 1: along with you know, like you start a new job
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, this these are the signs of
Speaker 1: all the people that I know. It's a tricky thing
Speaker 1: because it's like you can't say that like people that
Speaker 1: you just meet. Can I see your full chart? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's easy to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's your what's your what's some sign? But it's hard
Speaker 1: to be like I need to see everything but hot
Speaker 1: techno if you do want to, one thing that you
Speaker 1: can do is get co star and add them on
Speaker 1: that and then you can see what their full chart
Speaker 1: is and like what you'll kind of relate to. So
Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. That's a handy little thing. Then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so your communication sign is your mercury, So have a
Speaker 1: look at what your mercury is compared to them, and
Speaker 1: then look at the compatibility of those signs because you'll
Speaker 1: see how you'll communicate. If you're having issues with them,
Speaker 1: you can think, Okay, well they're a Leo and they
Speaker 1: communicate in a dramatic fashion, and so I need to
Speaker 1: perhaps approach the situation a bit more sensitively, not lighte
Speaker 1: fire with fire because that's going to cause a blow
Speaker 1: up and maybe that's just what they want, but you
Speaker 1: shouldn't give them that. You should kind of water the
Speaker 1: situation down and just kind of you know, take the
Speaker 1: drama out of it, I guess, and just approach it
Speaker 1: with logic kind of thing. So different, so that can
Speaker 1: be helpful. Also, the venus is how you love and
Speaker 1: what your relationships are like, So if you look at
Speaker 1: the venus sign, that can be really helpful in love.
Speaker 1: Whenever an astrologer does a relationship compatibility, reading the venus
Speaker 1: sign is very important. So yeah, the venus sign as
Speaker 1: well as the moon sign, because the moon sign is
Speaker 1: your emotions and how you think and feel kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Another super helpful thing if you're ever reading a horoscope
Speaker 1: or anything to do with astrology, whether it's you know,
Speaker 1: a book or whatever it may be, and you're reading
Speaker 1: it and you're kind of like this, you know, my
Speaker 1: son's sign, I'm not really quite gelling with what the
Speaker 1: information says. Then have a look at what your rising
Speaker 1: sign says, because your rising sign is how you appear
Speaker 1: to the world, and it's kind of like your essence
Speaker 1: as well. A lot of astrologers actually recommend that when
Speaker 1: you do read horoscopes, yeah you don't even of course
Speaker 1: read the sun sign, but put to put more stock
Speaker 1: in the rising in fact, so both of those are
Speaker 1: equally crucial, and I found that that's been really helpful
Speaker 1: a lot of the times, where to be honest, I'm
Speaker 1: a scolpius to run through it, so more often than not,
Speaker 1: I totally relate to it, and I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever not related to it, But to give myself a full,
Speaker 1: more well rounded guide to what's going on, I'll also
Speaker 1: look at my rising which is Sagittarius and that's actually
Speaker 1: the sign that everyone guesses to me, I appear a
Speaker 1: lot more outgoing than I actually am, but I'm actually
Speaker 1: quite introverted and like my own space. But I look like, oh, yes, everyone,
Speaker 1: come over, when really I'm just like I like to
Speaker 1: be alone, go away. But no, no, I'm both because we
Speaker 1: are dynamic as humans. No, literally, we're dynamic as humans.
Speaker 1: You can't pigeonhole people based on one sign. That's why
Speaker 1: the chart it's so helpful to look at the full chart,
Speaker 1: And as you said, the best part of it is
Speaker 1: when you're looking at just your own chart, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like it's. Astrology has really fueled people's like self indulgence,
Speaker 1: which is necessary because we're in an era where we're
Speaker 1: loving you know, therapy speak, and we're really kind of
Speaker 1: trying to get in touch without inner self dishadow work
Speaker 1: understand why we are the way that we are kind
Speaker 1: of thing, and astrology helps you do that. You can
Speaker 1: look at it and be like, why do I communicate
Speaker 1: this way? I keep blowing up. I don't mean to you,
Speaker 1: why does this happening? And you can look at what
Speaker 1: your mercury is and be like, oh, it's because again
Speaker 1: you're a leo and so you have dramatic communication fashions.
Speaker 1: It's how you're built, or like yeah, or like why
Speaker 1: am I you know? Why do I love being such
Speaker 1: a loner? And then you'll realize it's because you know,
Speaker 1: you're a Torus moon and you just kind of like
Speaker 1: being on your own except for you, the one person
Speaker 1: that you know that you love being around. So it's
Speaker 1: just kind of like it can it really gives you
Speaker 1: purpose and just answers to help you understand why you
Speaker 1: are this way, because yeah, you can bug. You know,
Speaker 1: you spend the life, your whole life in your mind
Speaker 1: seeing therapists, and do still see therapists. By the way,
Speaker 1: This isn't a replacement of that, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: it can be an interesting piece of the puzzle speaking
Speaker 1: of therapists actually finding a little story. So I saw
Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow when she came to Sydney, right she did
Speaker 1: a little talk and it was it was great, not
Speaker 1: a little talk. It went for like an hour and
Speaker 1: a half, but it was great. I was I was
Speaker 1: on the edge of my seat. And she mentioned how
Speaker 1: one of her you know, she's very kind of spiritual.
Speaker 1: She mentioned how one of her good friends is a
Speaker 1: psychologist astrologist, and I was like, that is fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: Most people would think that that's like an oxymoron. Most
Speaker 1: people would not go to see a psychologist that's also
Speaker 1: an astrologist. But the more I've thought about, I'm like,
Speaker 1: it so makes sense because that's such like a helpful
Speaker 1: tool to be like, well, you know, you know, someone
Speaker 1: will say what their issues in life are, like oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting along with this person, and then I
Speaker 1: guess this psychologist astrologists would be like, well, that's because
Speaker 1: they're this and you're this, and of course you're like
Speaker 1: this because of this, and we can work on it
Speaker 1: this way. It can be so so so helpful in
Speaker 1: helping you navigate life in general.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And also like I know when I've had my that
Speaker 2: was just such a like whoa so true when I've
Speaker 2: had my chart read before and literally like the astrologist
Speaker 2: is going, you know when you were this age something
Speaker 2: like did something happen around this or like this is
Speaker 2: when such an And I was like like, are you
Speaker 2: a fucking psychic?
Speaker 3: Like were you how do you know this shit?
Speaker 2: And she's like, well, because it's literally in your chart.
Speaker 2: So imagine being a psychologist and being able to like
Speaker 2: understand that as well.
Speaker 3: That to me is actually amazing.
Speaker 2: I love that you brought that up because I feel
Speaker 2: like you embody this as well. Right, you have worked
Speaker 2: in mainstream media for a long time, but like the
Speaker 2: way that you're bringing in an element that is so
Speaker 2: not mainstream or hasn't been especially like you know, you
Speaker 2: say you're working at Dolly, like Dolly days, it was
Speaker 2: very different to these days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred man, Oh my god. I remember. I
Speaker 1: remember one time I got a letter in the mail
Speaker 1: when I worked at Dolly, and it was like it
Speaker 1: looked like one of those like ransom notes. It was
Speaker 1: all in like block letters. It was so disturbing from
Speaker 1: this woman who she was like, look, i haven't actually
Speaker 1: bought this the magazine. I'm just at a library and
Speaker 1: I've just picked it up. I don't have any kids.
Speaker 1: I've got no skin in this game. I'm a forty
Speaker 1: year old woman, and but I just want to say
Speaker 1: that I think it's really inappropriate that you're teaching astrology
Speaker 1: and magic to children. I think it's of the devil
Speaker 1: and you should be cheating them. Proper values. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: first of all, if you don't have kids and you
Speaker 1: haven't bought the magazine, and this isn't for you, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not really taking your opinions on board, but b
Speaker 1: I'm just like, it's so it's not that deep. It's relaxed, chill,
Speaker 1: it's nothing scary, like just you know, calm down. But
Speaker 1: all I'm saying is that, yes, they were, and you
Speaker 1: do still get that from time to time. Now, oh people,
Speaker 1: I've had two people told me that they've gone to
Speaker 1: buy them my book and waiting in the aisle of
Speaker 1: the Big w or the Dimicks or whatever will be
Speaker 1: someone because it's you know, the mind, body, Spirit section,
Speaker 1: so it's probably not specifically for my book, but they're
Speaker 1: kind of waiting there, and they'll approach them and be like,
Speaker 1: why are you buying that book that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: of the Devil. Why didn't you come over here and
Speaker 1: buy the Bible instead? I think that's you know, that'll
Speaker 1: be better for you, and kind of preaching at them,
Speaker 1: and yeah, one of my colleagues was like, well, this
Speaker 1: is my friend bought this one. He didn't write the Bible.
Speaker 1: He wrote this Bible, so I'm going to buy this instead.
Speaker 1: It's in some books. There's one shout out to Harry
Speaker 1: Hartog and marrackl. The way that it's set up is
Speaker 1: it was like spirituality and it had like my book
Speaker 1: and then below it was the Bible. And I was
Speaker 1: just like, there's no ranking system, but I just love that,
Speaker 1: Like it was just so funny to see it on
Speaker 1: a bookshelf that it was above, like it's like the
Speaker 1: Messiah or something anyway. But yeah, my point is attitudes
Speaker 1: are definitely changing, and as I said, the last five
Speaker 1: six years, and I kind of I equate a lot
Speaker 1: of that honestly to social media. I think social media
Speaker 1: astrology has kind of made a lot of people come
Speaker 1: around to it and realize how fun it can be.
Speaker 1: Like think about the means and it's like it can
Speaker 1: be so it doesn't have to be just it's like
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a serious like this is
Speaker 1: the gospel. You have to live your life this way.
Speaker 1: It can just be a silly or fire signs. Do
Speaker 1: this on the first day, Like it can just be
Speaker 1: fun and unserious and you get so excited, you know,
Speaker 1: going out and meeting people like at parties and being like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're the same sign. Yes, so you know we relate
Speaker 1: in this way. And that's what I mean by the
Speaker 1: club's energy. It's like when you go out and you
Speaker 1: meet someone that's your sign, it's so exciting and you think, oh,
Speaker 1: I have so much in common with you, and yeah,
Speaker 1: so it can bring people together in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: Like like as I said, don't let you know, compatibility
Speaker 1: push you apart. It can actually bring you together and
Speaker 1: make you realize, oh we relate in these and these
Speaker 1: and these ways. Or I get the opposite. I'll meet
Speaker 1: people like oh, we're not compatible, but you know this
Speaker 1: is this is what the areas that we do relate on.
Speaker 1: And you know that's why there's the whole chart to
Speaker 1: look out rather than just the sun sign. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so it can be a really it brings people together,
Speaker 1: I think, and I think that's really nice.
Speaker 2: Yes, even like when you were talking about the people
Speaker 2: that you're like not technically compatible with, I just had
Speaker 2: such a bit of a like light bulb moment before
Speaker 2: where because like, as an Aquarius, if I'm not compatible
Speaker 2: with someone.
Speaker 3: I'll just just not be around them. But I'm like, I.
Speaker 1: Feel like there's no working around it. I just I
Speaker 1: need to mend the gap. It's just like, Okay, tapping
Speaker 1: out that is very I know.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, but do you know what if I
Speaker 2: actually took the time to understand it a little bit more,
Speaker 2: Like I have the ability to expand and I have
Speaker 2: the ability to sort of like because that's you know,
Speaker 2: the way that I see everything and like all the
Speaker 2: information that I've always gotten. It's that we're here in
Speaker 2: this human experience to expand our souls and to learn
Speaker 2: and to grow. So I'm like, oh, that's just such
Speaker 2: an opportunity actually to expand yourself more because you're putting
Speaker 2: yourself into like a really uncomfortable sort of situation where
Speaker 2: you're having to sort of like really work against those
Speaker 2: shadow sides of you and understanding their shadow sides of you.
Speaker 2: And I think, like, again, it just comes back to
Speaker 2: so much understanding, Like astrology can help you understand yourself
Speaker 2: so much. It can help you understand other people. It
Speaker 2: can help you understand your kids, like knowing your kids charts. Honestly,
Speaker 2: even before when you were talking about the communication, like
Speaker 2: understanding their mercury, I was like, I need to look
Speaker 2: at what my children's mercury is.
Speaker 3: Why have I not even thought about that?
Speaker 1: That must be so cool to think you can look
Speaker 1: at like their whole future in a sense, and not
Speaker 1: in the terms of like fortune telling, but just to
Speaker 1: know like what they're going to the personalities will be like,
Speaker 1: and how to kind of and what to focus on,
Speaker 1: what to foster in them, what you know, just isn't
Speaker 1: their thing, what they might need to work on, and
Speaker 1: you can kind of help them become better at that,
Speaker 1: Like it can be a really useful tool for things
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Yes, what else is happening like this year?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like the rest of this year
Speaker 2: is going to be fucking insane in like really interesting, expanding,
Speaker 2: expansiony kind of way astrology wise. What's happening that we
Speaker 2: need to know about.
Speaker 1: One of the biggest overarching things this year was the
Speaker 1: idea that technology was going to be really like changed
Speaker 1: and kind of left with And I think that the
Speaker 1: biggest sign of that that we've seen is that AI
Speaker 1: has had this boom, which is kind of scary more
Speaker 1: so than ever, Like, I think there are so many
Speaker 1: people this year have lost their job because of AI,
Speaker 1: And you know, technology is like constantly rapidly growing, which
Speaker 1: is what was kind of predicted for this year. And
Speaker 1: even like Elon Muskers said that he's terrified of AI,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And if Elon Musk is
Speaker 1: good or something, that's really really a sign. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think that that's kind of a big thing.
Speaker 1: I think, just being wary of AI to start with.
Speaker 1: In terms of other things, there's yeah, we've got a
Speaker 1: few retrogrades happening at the moment, And interestingly, I've actually
Speaker 1: found that the retrogrades that are happening right now can
Speaker 1: actually be really helpful in a way. Like retrogrades are
Speaker 1: such a scary thing, like they strike fear in everyone's hearts,
Speaker 1: but actually what they do is put you through tests
Speaker 1: to help you better yourself and change change things up
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Like for example, Saturn, we're currently in
Speaker 1: the midst of Saturn retrograde. Satin as a planet is
Speaker 1: it's kind of like didn't you know the Satin return
Speaker 1: how like you know when you're in your late twenties,
Speaker 1: you'll kind of go through a bunch of tests kind
Speaker 1: of thing. It's known as like the task Master planet
Speaker 1: because it puts you through different tasks to kind of
Speaker 1: see what you're made of and help you grow quite
Speaker 1: a thing, because without adversity, we don't grow, we stay
Speaker 1: the same. So it is unfortunately, it is necessary part
Speaker 1: of a necessary part of life. And I'm just finding
Speaker 1: that a lot of people that I know at the
Speaker 1: moment are kind of going through all sorts of changes.
Speaker 1: I know so many people that were you having to
Speaker 1: move for example, myself being one of them. I have
Speaker 1: so many friends. There was mass redundancies at my work,
Speaker 1: a lot of my colleagues kind of lost their jobs.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are going through it right now.
Speaker 1: It's because everyone's kind of being tested by all the
Speaker 1: retrogrades happening. And although it's like a kind of a
Speaker 1: scary time, I do see the dust settling and then
Speaker 1: by the end of the year kind of not so
Speaker 1: much being able to coast. But again, from these changes,
Speaker 1: there's very much a vibe of if you don't take
Speaker 1: the leap, you'll stay somewhere forever for an extended period
Speaker 1: of time and kind of be unhappy. So it's like,
Speaker 1: so the point is everyone's kind of being and pushed
Speaker 1: right now, but those pushes are necessary, and I kind
Speaker 1: of do see a positive future coming from that which
Speaker 1: might not make sense now but will make sense in time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, by the end of the year.
Speaker 2: Do you know what is so interesting is I did
Speaker 2: I do these like weekly group healings where it's like
Speaker 2: this collective reikie healing and I like bring all this
Speaker 2: information through. And that was like basically the theme of
Speaker 2: the most recent healing that I did, where it's like
Speaker 2: I just felt this. It was like it now is
Speaker 2: the time. Now is the time to like do that thing,
Speaker 2: because it's just like the perfect time for it, and
Speaker 2: if you don't do it now, it's just going to
Speaker 2: like become a harder thing.
Speaker 3: And it's so literally just what you said.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I always say, like, it's so
Speaker 2: interesting to me when I hear astrologically what's going on
Speaker 2: and how it relates so much to like intuitively the
Speaker 2: information that I receive about what's happening collectively.
Speaker 1: And it's what I was saying to earlier about how
Speaker 1: it all goes hand in hand, which is just so beautiful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so fascinating, even like just different schools of thought
Speaker 1: or whatever, like it's still it's the same message, which
Speaker 1: is lovely, and then that's how you know it's accurate
Speaker 1: as well, the fact that you know, we were both
Speaker 1: kind of picking up the similar thing from you know,
Speaker 1: coming from completely different angles. But yeah, overall, it's I
Speaker 1: think everyone's kind of feeling it right now. But I
Speaker 1: do see the dust settling eventually, and I just think
Speaker 1: that the overarching message is, you know, don't ask why
Speaker 1: is this happening to me? Ask what is this? Try
Speaker 1: to tell me what am I supposed to learn from this?
Speaker 1: And then yeah, again, the only way to grow is
Speaker 1: through tough times.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I think that the moment that you surrender into
Speaker 2: realizing that, like the point of life isn't to be
Speaker 2: feeling perfect and happy and life is like literally just
Speaker 2: a manifestor's dream every single second. But the whole point
Speaker 2: of it is, as you said, it's a constant up
Speaker 2: and down because every single time you go down, you
Speaker 2: learn something from the down and you bring it with
Speaker 2: you as you go back up again, and then you
Speaker 2: just do that back and forth them back and forth.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm really like, whenever I write articles
Speaker 1: or write my book and thing about astrology, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to change people's way of thinking in rather than being like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, Mecurretro's grades coming, like we're all we're all doomed.
Speaker 1: But more so it's like, okay, it's coming, buckle up,
Speaker 1: we can do it. But fore warned is fore arms
Speaker 1: because like you know, with Macro retrograde, for example, that
Speaker 1: you know it's helpful. Everyone knows the warnings by now,
Speaker 1: you know, allow extra time for travel, double check all texts, emails,
Speaker 1: et cetera, that kind of thing. So that's it's really helpful.
Speaker 1: But it's also a matter of Okay, things are going
Speaker 1: to change, and they're going to hopefully change for the good.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like it's kind of like in Taro,
Speaker 1: when you draw the death card, it doesn't it that
Speaker 1: you're going to die. It's actually an exciting card. It
Speaker 1: means change is coming. You're about to close a chapter
Speaker 1: and open another one, which is exciting because you know,
Speaker 1: whether you love or hate change, change is a necessary
Speaker 1: part of life and it kind of keeps life interesting.
Speaker 1: So it's so with the retrogrades, for example, it's just like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: it's you know, time to hit refresh and see what's
Speaker 1: about to happen.
Speaker 3: Yes, I love how you.
Speaker 2: It just makes me like keep thinking about the fact
Speaker 2: that like using yourself as evidence is like actually so profound.
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's even like astrology and why
Speaker 2: astrology is becoming so popular and why people are starting
Speaker 2: to really lean into it more is because the second
Speaker 2: that they start to even give it the opportunity to
Speaker 2: maybe be correct, they realize that they are their own
Speaker 2: evidence of the fact that it is. And I feel
Speaker 2: like that's even the way, like, yes, what you're saying
Speaker 2: about like the ups and downs and stuff, I think
Speaker 2: we forget to look back and use ourselves as our
Speaker 2: own evidence that we are how important it is to
Speaker 2: sort of like experience adversities because it literally is how
Speaker 2: you got to where you are right now. And I
Speaker 2: think it can be so powerful and it brings us
Speaker 2: back to ourselves and how powerful we are when we're
Speaker 2: like my own fuck evidence of how resilient I am
Speaker 2: and how like necessary this is one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. It's like when you're like
Speaker 1: scared of like oh shit, you know this is coming,
Speaker 1: It's like, well, this is you know this being like
Speaker 1: maca retrocrat, whatever it may be. It's like, well, it's
Speaker 1: come many times before and you've gotten through it. Not
Speaker 1: only have you gotten through it, but you've thrived and
Speaker 1: become better because of it. So you've got more learning
Speaker 1: to do, more growing to do it, more thriving to do.
Speaker 1: Because that's what like is.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: How can people look after themselves in this next saturin retrograde?
Speaker 1: My big thing is just be kind to yourself. I
Speaker 1: think it's we're so quick. As I said, we're in
Speaker 1: an era where we're looking at our faults and doing
Speaker 1: shadow work and analyzing our good parts and our bad parts,
Speaker 1: and that is so good and I love that we're
Speaker 1: doing that. But when you do that, don't fall into
Speaker 1: the trap of spiraling into self pity and being mad
Speaker 1: at yourself. Just really be kind to yourself, practice self care,
Speaker 1: and just recognize that we are all multifaceted humans and
Speaker 1: we all fuck up, and from fucking up, we learn
Speaker 1: and we become better. So just overall, like the thing,
Speaker 1: you're going to have a lot of like truth bombs
Speaker 1: and a lot of like realizations. And when you do,
Speaker 1: even if they're negative, like don't run from them or
Speaker 1: hide from them, really look them in the face and
Speaker 1: lean into it and be like, Okay, well why am
Speaker 1: I exhibiting these bad behaviors? Why did I do that
Speaker 1: to that person? And from there you can find solutions.
Speaker 1: You know, you can apologize, you can see a psychologist,
Speaker 1: you can do all these different things. But just don't
Speaker 1: run from your flaws. Do some shadow work, and when
Speaker 1: you do, just don't beat yourself up because that's going
Speaker 1: to stop you from you know, from growth and change
Speaker 1: and from fixing those issues. So just be kind to yourself.
Speaker 3: Oh I love that.
Speaker 2: That is absolutely perfect. Thank you so much, Matt for
Speaker 2: chatting with me. It's been such an honor.
Speaker 3: Your book.
Speaker 2: We can find that. I'm going to add like the
Speaker 2: link and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's the star sign. Yes, yes, it's on sale now.
Speaker 1: You can grab it from dimicks. You can grab it online,
Speaker 1: you can grab from big w Yeah, just most places
Speaker 1: that sell books have it. So you have a read
Speaker 1: and you'll learn who you are and aren't compatible with.
Speaker 3: I love that so much. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Now I add your Instagram and everything so everyone can
Speaker 2: follow you and be obsessed with you like I am.
Speaker 1: Sounds good. Thanks so much, guys. This is so fun.
Speaker 1: I love the pod and I'm so proud to be
Speaker 1: a village crazy man.
Speaker 3: Yes, I love that. Thank you so much, Matt
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bye bye