1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apogee Production. 2 00:00:10,961 --> 00:00:13,921 Speaker 2: I'm Mickie Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady. 3 00:00:14,321 --> 00:00:17,401 Speaker 2: People are talking to me and they are not physically 4 00:00:17,481 --> 00:00:20,721 Speaker 2: in this room, so just strap in for that. 5 00:00:20,961 --> 00:00:23,161 Speaker 3: Can't call me crazy, so I said it first. 6 00:00:23,321 --> 00:00:26,121 Speaker 2: Whoever's trying to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like, 7 00:00:26,241 --> 00:00:26,761 Speaker 2: just bring it on. 8 00:00:26,841 --> 00:00:27,361 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 9 00:00:28,201 --> 00:00:36,121 Speaker 2: Crazy Crazy Crazy The Village Crazy Lady Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends, 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,761 Speaker 2: and welcome to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady. 11 00:00:40,081 --> 00:00:42,641 Speaker 2: This week, I've got a Village crazy man on the 12 00:00:42,681 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: podcast with me, Matt Galaia, who is an astrologist, author 13 00:00:47,681 --> 00:00:51,201 Speaker 2: of How to Spot the Star, Signed and managing editor 14 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: of Pedestrian TV, and also so many other things. I 15 00:00:54,961 --> 00:00:57,961 Speaker 2: mean Matt was saying before, like he's into Wika, he's 16 00:00:58,001 --> 00:01:01,401 Speaker 2: reading a book about gypsy Like, how was that? 17 00:01:01,441 --> 00:01:05,241 Speaker 3: Matt? Does that well explained or barely touches. 18 00:01:04,921 --> 00:01:09,001 Speaker 1: The Yeah, that that is all me in the nutshell. 19 00:01:09,241 --> 00:01:11,921 Speaker 1: There's not much more to me than that. There's a 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,761 Speaker 1: whole lot there. I've been so into this stuff since 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: I was like five years old. This is very much, 22 00:01:17,441 --> 00:01:21,281 Speaker 1: very much. Yeah, what my makeup is? What about you? 23 00:01:21,321 --> 00:01:24,041 Speaker 1: When did you kind of start getting into spiritualism. Was 24 00:01:24,041 --> 00:01:25,041 Speaker 1: it from a child age? 25 00:01:25,041 --> 00:01:27,921 Speaker 3: Well? No, that's like what's got me so interested? Straight away? 26 00:01:27,961 --> 00:01:29,561 Speaker 2: You're like, you know, I started this when I was 27 00:01:29,601 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: five years old, and I was about to say, how 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,241 Speaker 2: did you get into this? 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:33,961 Speaker 3: I was more of a late bloomer. 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,201 Speaker 2: I grew up in the church, so it was very 31 00:01:37,321 --> 00:01:41,121 Speaker 2: much something that like was intuitively within me, and then 32 00:01:41,161 --> 00:01:43,241 Speaker 2: I had to sort of do a lot of questioning 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,001 Speaker 2: as I got older. But so since five years old, 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,121 Speaker 2: has this just always been what you've sort of done 35 00:01:49,121 --> 00:01:50,681 Speaker 2: and how you've felt and how you've connected. 36 00:01:51,121 --> 00:01:53,681 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what always And I also grew up 37 00:01:53,721 --> 00:01:54,841 Speaker 1: in the church, but I was a bit of a 38 00:01:54,841 --> 00:01:57,761 Speaker 1: double agent. I guess I love that, but it's kind 39 00:01:57,761 --> 00:02:00,641 Speaker 1: of like I think also it was kind of like, 40 00:02:01,281 --> 00:02:04,041 Speaker 1: it's funny, I've been studying my like psychology of like 41 00:02:04,201 --> 00:02:06,001 Speaker 1: why I am, how I am and things like that, 42 00:02:06,041 --> 00:02:08,561 Speaker 1: and I just think, so, so here's what happened that 43 00:02:08,601 --> 00:02:11,321 Speaker 1: I realized. So I was five years old, I kind 44 00:02:11,321 --> 00:02:15,161 Speaker 1: of knew I was different from everyone else, and so 45 00:02:16,281 --> 00:02:19,881 Speaker 1: I kind of turned to shows and TV shows and 46 00:02:19,921 --> 00:02:22,841 Speaker 1: movies and parts of popular culture about people that were different, 47 00:02:23,281 --> 00:02:25,201 Speaker 1: one of them being charmed for example, which is very 48 00:02:25,201 --> 00:02:27,721 Speaker 1: on brand RP. Channon Dollity, and I kind of became 49 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,361 Speaker 1: obsessed with that, obsessed with witches. There was a lot 50 00:02:30,401 --> 00:02:31,921 Speaker 1: of that stuff in the nineties. There was you know, 51 00:02:32,041 --> 00:02:35,281 Speaker 1: hopeus Pocus, there was the craft, practical magic, all that stuff. 52 00:02:35,361 --> 00:02:37,881 Speaker 1: Kind of became obsessed with that, obsessed with casting spells 53 00:02:37,921 --> 00:02:40,881 Speaker 1: and the things like that, and from there that was 54 00:02:40,921 --> 00:02:44,401 Speaker 1: my gateway that got me into everything else. And the 55 00:02:44,441 --> 00:02:46,801 Speaker 1: gay thing that I was saying is because when you're 56 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,081 Speaker 1: young and you feel like you're kind of different from 57 00:02:50,161 --> 00:02:52,361 Speaker 1: everyone else, you kind of get to a point where 58 00:02:52,361 --> 00:02:55,041 Speaker 1: you're just like, all right, well, bucket, I'm already kind 59 00:02:55,041 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: of like on the outskirts of society. I might as 60 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,801 Speaker 1: well just go full weird with it. And I kind 61 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: of did. Like it wasn't an intentional choice, it was 62 00:03:02,041 --> 00:03:04,361 Speaker 1: just a psychological I think that's kind of how it 63 00:03:04,401 --> 00:03:06,841 Speaker 1: all happened. So my point is, so the gateway for 64 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,881 Speaker 1: me was definitely like wicker like when it comes to 65 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,921 Speaker 1: like spells, crystals, all that kind of tarot. I had 66 00:03:12,921 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: my first taro deck at ten years old. It was 67 00:03:14,761 --> 00:03:17,561 Speaker 1: like a coloring in deck. I was very obsessed. And 68 00:03:17,601 --> 00:03:20,161 Speaker 1: then yeah, from there. I kind of yeah, I was 69 00:03:20,201 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: always interested in astrology, but in terms of full on 70 00:03:23,561 --> 00:03:28,441 Speaker 1: becoming obsessed reading everything, becoming an astrologer, that happened in 71 00:03:28,441 --> 00:03:31,161 Speaker 1: the last ten years. I'd say when I started working 72 00:03:31,201 --> 00:03:34,841 Speaker 1: at Dolly magazine also rip, yeah, I. 73 00:03:34,761 --> 00:03:38,041 Speaker 3: Was reci thank you for everything. 74 00:03:38,401 --> 00:03:41,121 Speaker 1: I was a little Dolly left off. Yes, I was 75 00:03:41,121 --> 00:03:43,081 Speaker 1: the entertainment writer. But while I was there, I was 76 00:03:43,161 --> 00:03:44,601 Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, what are your thoughts on, you know, 77 00:03:44,681 --> 00:03:47,201 Speaker 1: bringing back There was a section that used to be 78 00:03:47,361 --> 00:03:51,041 Speaker 1: we had archives there in the magazine of like all 79 00:03:51,081 --> 00:03:53,641 Speaker 1: the dollies since time began. So can you imagine what 80 00:03:53,681 --> 00:03:55,801 Speaker 1: a dream that was walking in and there's just wall 81 00:03:55,841 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: to walls, just like dollies from Dolly magazines from now 82 00:03:58,801 --> 00:04:01,361 Speaker 1: until like when you know it's inception. And I was 83 00:04:01,401 --> 00:04:03,801 Speaker 1: just reading through like the Naughty's issues with you know, 84 00:04:04,321 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: home and o wast on the cover and things like that, 85 00:04:06,561 --> 00:04:08,641 Speaker 1: and I saw that there was a section in there 86 00:04:08,681 --> 00:04:11,761 Speaker 1: called Dolly Destiny, and I was like, that had just 87 00:04:11,801 --> 00:04:14,681 Speaker 1: a bunch of expels and horoscopes and things like that, 88 00:04:14,721 --> 00:04:16,601 Speaker 1: and I was like, can we bring this back? Would 89 00:04:16,641 --> 00:04:18,561 Speaker 1: you guys mind? And they were like, yeah, no, let's 90 00:04:18,561 --> 00:04:20,121 Speaker 1: do it. And we did it and it popped off, 91 00:04:20,241 --> 00:04:22,281 Speaker 1: and that kind of gave me the confidence. And since then, 92 00:04:22,401 --> 00:04:26,041 Speaker 1: every other publication that I've worked at I've kind of 93 00:04:26,401 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: fused you know, writing about horoscopes and with her type 94 00:04:30,841 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: stuff into the job. So that's what I did at 95 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: Pedestrian as well. Yeah, eventually I got to a prot 96 00:04:36,521 --> 00:04:38,761 Speaker 1: where I was like, Okay, I've been collecting all these 97 00:04:38,801 --> 00:04:42,041 Speaker 1: astrology books and witchy books. It's time to I'm going 98 00:04:42,041 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: to see if I can get one of my own 99 00:04:43,481 --> 00:04:46,201 Speaker 1: off the ground. And I did. Here it is out 100 00:04:46,241 --> 00:04:49,441 Speaker 1: of Spot the Star Signs. Yeah, it came out last year, 101 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: so it's about astrological compatibility and so. But yeah, but 102 00:04:52,681 --> 00:04:55,281 Speaker 1: to answer your question, to this day, I'm still just 103 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,641 Speaker 1: as interested in all of it. But yeah, it's kind 104 00:04:57,641 --> 00:05:00,761 Speaker 1: of just been like a lifelong not so much a mission, 105 00:05:00,801 --> 00:05:03,201 Speaker 1: but just kind of like a lifelong interest that it's 106 00:05:03,281 --> 00:05:06,001 Speaker 1: just there's something where there's just so much which, so 107 00:05:06,121 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: much information, like it's never ending, and like each month 108 00:05:09,361 --> 00:05:11,761 Speaker 1: I'll just become obsessed with a random different part of 109 00:05:11,801 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I might study you know, palm reading 110 00:05:14,241 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: this month, and then the next week, you know, I'll 111 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,681 Speaker 1: be interested in I'll go back to Taro. It's like 112 00:05:18,801 --> 00:05:20,921 Speaker 1: there's just so much there and it's just and it's 113 00:05:20,961 --> 00:05:24,321 Speaker 1: not even just the fascination with you know, oh it's 114 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: so cool it can predict the future. It's also just 115 00:05:26,761 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's cool, it's magic. It works that. 116 00:05:29,481 --> 00:05:32,321 Speaker 1: It's more so that it's like, I love how it 117 00:05:32,361 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: can benefit people's lives and provide answers and a sense 118 00:05:36,761 --> 00:05:40,241 Speaker 1: of understanding. And you know, there is just so much 119 00:05:40,561 --> 00:05:43,681 Speaker 1: mystery and confusion and like why is this happening to me? 120 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,841 Speaker 1: And that's an astrology can provide the answer to that, 121 00:05:46,961 --> 00:05:49,281 Speaker 1: as can you know, you know, psychics and all other 122 00:05:49,281 --> 00:05:50,761 Speaker 1: different things. And I think that's beautiful. 123 00:05:51,521 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: Can you talk about because I love how you just said, 124 00:05:54,001 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: like it's been something that's in your life for just 125 00:05:56,721 --> 00:06:00,681 Speaker 2: forever and it's just like this constant like information just 126 00:06:01,001 --> 00:06:03,241 Speaker 2: drinking up. Can you think of the ways that it's 127 00:06:03,401 --> 00:06:04,561 Speaker 2: really helped you? 128 00:06:05,201 --> 00:06:09,161 Speaker 1: Honestly? It's oh so like I have this book it's 129 00:06:09,161 --> 00:06:10,961 Speaker 1: called a Book of Shadows, where you write in there 130 00:06:11,001 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: different like spells and chants and information on anything that 131 00:06:15,481 --> 00:06:18,561 Speaker 1: you'd need in your life. And I started it in 132 00:06:18,601 --> 00:06:21,161 Speaker 1: two thousand and five and I'm still adding to it 133 00:06:21,161 --> 00:06:22,921 Speaker 1: to this day and not just adding to it, but 134 00:06:24,001 --> 00:06:26,161 Speaker 1: I'll look, there'll be a day where, you know, as 135 00:06:26,201 --> 00:06:28,801 Speaker 1: an example, maybe I'm going for a promotion and I'll 136 00:06:28,801 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: go back to this book with all this this information 137 00:06:31,241 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: that I've gathered from different sources that like I started 138 00:06:33,921 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: when I was, you know, a teenager, and find information 139 00:06:37,521 --> 00:06:40,681 Speaker 1: in there that will help me different like spells and 140 00:06:40,721 --> 00:06:42,241 Speaker 1: things like that. Like to this day, I'm like, you know, 141 00:06:42,281 --> 00:06:44,281 Speaker 1: if i'd need a promotion or anything like that, I'll 142 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: use spells that I wrote in there when I was 143 00:06:46,921 --> 00:06:49,161 Speaker 1: like a kid. And so it's just so crazy. It's 144 00:06:49,161 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: like past me talking to present me. But yeah, so 145 00:06:51,721 --> 00:06:53,641 Speaker 1: that's so that's kind of been really helpful, and it's 146 00:06:53,721 --> 00:06:55,561 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where it's kind of like 147 00:06:56,281 --> 00:06:59,081 Speaker 1: my thing with all kinds of spirituality is like, let's 148 00:06:59,241 --> 00:07:02,041 Speaker 1: just say to the skeptics, let's just say, if you know, 149 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: if they think it's BS and whatever else, the point 150 00:07:05,561 --> 00:07:07,961 Speaker 1: is it's the power of positive thinking and it puts 151 00:07:08,121 --> 00:07:11,641 Speaker 1: positive intentions into the universe. And whoever the person is, 152 00:07:11,681 --> 00:07:14,801 Speaker 1: that's kind of like, you know, utilizing this stuff, it 153 00:07:15,721 --> 00:07:18,041 Speaker 1: makes them feel positive and feel like something's happening. And 154 00:07:18,081 --> 00:07:21,201 Speaker 1: it gives them some encouragement. And so that's exactly what 155 00:07:21,361 --> 00:07:23,761 Speaker 1: it does. Whenever I feel lost, I kind of turn 156 00:07:23,841 --> 00:07:26,201 Speaker 1: to it. It gives you a sense of purpose as 157 00:07:26,241 --> 00:07:29,721 Speaker 1: your all religions. I think that's you know, whether you're Catholic, Muslim, 158 00:07:29,881 --> 00:07:32,161 Speaker 1: no matter what. Like it's kind of like, you know, 159 00:07:32,441 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: it's a sense of purpose and believing that there's something 160 00:07:34,881 --> 00:07:38,521 Speaker 1: out there that's beyond you, because it's a terrifying thought 161 00:07:38,521 --> 00:07:40,241 Speaker 1: to think that, you know, the buck stops with you. 162 00:07:40,321 --> 00:07:42,201 Speaker 1: It's like, no, there are angels, and there are spirits, 163 00:07:42,241 --> 00:07:44,921 Speaker 1: and there are guys, and so it's all just guidance 164 00:07:45,001 --> 00:07:47,121 Speaker 1: letting you know that you're not alone, and you know, 165 00:07:47,241 --> 00:07:49,921 Speaker 1: everything has a purpose. When shit things happen, you think 166 00:07:49,921 --> 00:07:52,081 Speaker 1: why is this happening to me? And it's like there's 167 00:07:52,081 --> 00:07:55,441 Speaker 1: always a reason. The universe is, you know, putting you 168 00:07:55,481 --> 00:07:57,841 Speaker 1: on this path, you know, giving you all these trials 169 00:07:57,881 --> 00:08:01,681 Speaker 1: and tribulations for a particular reason. And all this kind 170 00:08:01,761 --> 00:08:04,801 Speaker 1: of stuff helps you to you know, realize that there 171 00:08:04,841 --> 00:08:07,361 Speaker 1: is a path and the purpose. But also if you're 172 00:08:07,401 --> 00:08:09,801 Speaker 1: ever stuff, you can call upon your guide, so you can, 173 00:08:10,201 --> 00:08:12,521 Speaker 1: you know, do this chance and it will kind of 174 00:08:12,561 --> 00:08:15,321 Speaker 1: help you along your path. So it's it's honestly, it's 175 00:08:15,361 --> 00:08:18,281 Speaker 1: it's it's kept me going since I was a kid 176 00:08:18,361 --> 00:08:21,281 Speaker 1: kind of thing, all different chapters of my life. I 177 00:08:21,321 --> 00:08:23,961 Speaker 1: can think of times where I've relied on this kind 178 00:08:24,001 --> 00:08:26,601 Speaker 1: of stuff from like high school, dealing with issues that 179 00:08:26,681 --> 00:08:28,841 Speaker 1: I you know that I might have had there to 180 00:08:28,961 --> 00:08:32,361 Speaker 1: as I said, you know, promotions, love spells, things like that. 181 00:08:33,001 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: My partner, who have been with for six years, like I, 182 00:08:35,401 --> 00:08:38,081 Speaker 1: you know, that was all love magic. You're got you 183 00:08:39,441 --> 00:08:42,361 Speaker 1: rose crystals. You know. Literally he's so into it now 184 00:08:42,361 --> 00:08:44,721 Speaker 1: as well that I'm teaching. I'm teaching lots of things 185 00:08:44,761 --> 00:08:48,801 Speaker 1: we do like readings all the time, but yeah, crystals 186 00:08:48,801 --> 00:08:50,721 Speaker 1: and love rose coorts crystals and things like that. I 187 00:08:50,801 --> 00:08:54,161 Speaker 1: used to use those quite a lot. So yeah, So honestly, 188 00:08:54,201 --> 00:08:55,601 Speaker 1: it's one of those things that's just like for every 189 00:08:55,641 --> 00:08:58,761 Speaker 1: facet of my life, it's like it's been really helpful, 190 00:08:58,801 --> 00:09:01,081 Speaker 1: Like as I said, every facet of my life, but 191 00:09:01,121 --> 00:09:02,961 Speaker 1: also every chapter of my life from when I was 192 00:09:03,001 --> 00:09:07,481 Speaker 1: young to now. Yeah, it's just it's been my main 193 00:09:07,681 --> 00:09:11,401 Speaker 1: constant that's kind of kept me going. I like, it's 194 00:09:11,441 --> 00:09:13,481 Speaker 1: funny to listeners, I sound like a mad man, but 195 00:09:13,561 --> 00:09:16,281 Speaker 1: it's kept me saying strangely, you know, because it's given 196 00:09:16,281 --> 00:09:19,561 Speaker 1: me kind of a clear path and a direction. And yeah, 197 00:09:20,641 --> 00:09:23,081 Speaker 1: and that's my thing. I'm like, I just encourage everyone 198 00:09:23,121 --> 00:09:25,681 Speaker 1: to dabble into it, even a little bit. You don't 199 00:09:25,681 --> 00:09:28,081 Speaker 1: have to go full on make it your life's mission 200 00:09:28,201 --> 00:09:31,521 Speaker 1: like me. But it's like it's it really is there 201 00:09:31,561 --> 00:09:35,201 Speaker 1: when you need it, and it's not dark or scary. 202 00:09:35,441 --> 00:09:37,361 Speaker 1: It's supposed to help you and guide you. And like 203 00:09:37,401 --> 00:09:39,801 Speaker 1: with astrology, my big thing with astrology is that it's, 204 00:09:39,841 --> 00:09:42,801 Speaker 1: like I write in my book, it's a series of 205 00:09:42,921 --> 00:09:46,241 Speaker 1: cool clubs that everyone belongs to because it's kind of 206 00:09:46,281 --> 00:09:49,961 Speaker 1: like with like no one is, no one's left out, 207 00:09:50,161 --> 00:09:52,201 Speaker 1: everyone has a star sign. Yeah you know what I mean, 208 00:09:52,201 --> 00:09:54,281 Speaker 1: like no one, no one's left out, no one's like, 209 00:09:54,281 --> 00:09:56,161 Speaker 1: oh this is you know, with a lot of it's 210 00:09:56,161 --> 00:09:58,961 Speaker 1: not like, for example, with Catholicism, for example, it's like 211 00:09:59,161 --> 00:10:01,201 Speaker 1: we love everyone except for the gays, and except for 212 00:10:01,241 --> 00:10:03,361 Speaker 1: people of other religions and except for this and except 213 00:10:03,361 --> 00:10:06,121 Speaker 1: for that. No. Astrology is like everyone belongs and not 214 00:10:06,161 --> 00:10:08,401 Speaker 1: only do you belong, but we're going to tell you 215 00:10:09,201 --> 00:10:11,401 Speaker 1: just you know, astrologers are religion. But I'm just saying 216 00:10:11,401 --> 00:10:13,801 Speaker 1: in terms of like, you know, the way of thinking. 217 00:10:13,881 --> 00:10:16,161 Speaker 1: It's going to tell you like how to get along 218 00:10:16,201 --> 00:10:18,121 Speaker 1: with all the other people that are around you, and 219 00:10:18,161 --> 00:10:20,721 Speaker 1: why you are how you are calling you out for 220 00:10:20,761 --> 00:10:23,281 Speaker 1: your negative traits but saying yes, of course you're like 221 00:10:23,321 --> 00:10:25,801 Speaker 1: that because you're a Capricorn or because you're a Scorpio 222 00:10:25,841 --> 00:10:28,641 Speaker 1: or whatever it may be, but also celebrating your beautiful 223 00:10:28,641 --> 00:10:31,001 Speaker 1: traits and saying that you know, yes, yes you may 224 00:10:31,081 --> 00:10:32,921 Speaker 1: do this, but you also do this and that's great 225 00:10:32,961 --> 00:10:37,801 Speaker 1: and it offers purpose and understanding and yeah, and I 226 00:10:37,841 --> 00:10:38,561 Speaker 1: think that's beautiful. 227 00:10:38,681 --> 00:10:40,881 Speaker 3: Yes, I think that was so well said. 228 00:10:40,961 --> 00:10:45,121 Speaker 2: Everything about how you just like explained astrology just then 229 00:10:45,201 --> 00:10:49,921 Speaker 2: felt like such a penny drop, especially like the inclusivity 230 00:10:49,961 --> 00:10:52,761 Speaker 2: of it, because that's so true, and just the ability 231 00:10:53,201 --> 00:10:58,121 Speaker 2: to recognize the shadow parts of yourself and because like 232 00:10:58,121 --> 00:10:59,761 Speaker 2: that's the hard thing right now, and that's what I 233 00:10:59,801 --> 00:11:02,801 Speaker 2: really loved when I was starting to, you know, when 234 00:11:02,841 --> 00:11:06,201 Speaker 2: on my journey of like dabble, I you know, learned 235 00:11:06,201 --> 00:11:10,281 Speaker 2: about an astrology and my astrology and it really was 236 00:11:10,401 --> 00:11:13,281 Speaker 2: just like, Okay, this feels like I'm just getting to 237 00:11:13,401 --> 00:11:17,201 Speaker 2: like read a book about myself and like really see 238 00:11:17,201 --> 00:11:20,081 Speaker 2: it in front of me and understand and like, you know, an, 239 00:11:20,161 --> 00:11:24,001 Speaker 2: I'm an Aquarius with a Leo moon and a cancer 240 00:11:24,041 --> 00:11:27,841 Speaker 2: rising and a Capricorn stellion, So just to give you 241 00:11:28,041 --> 00:11:34,761 Speaker 2: an idea, So I was like, very it's quite obvious, 242 00:11:35,961 --> 00:11:38,361 Speaker 2: and I'm like reading I remember looking into sort of, 243 00:11:38,441 --> 00:11:40,401 Speaker 2: you know, the more shadow parts of all of these 244 00:11:40,761 --> 00:11:46,041 Speaker 2: different elements of me, and it was really confronting in 245 00:11:46,321 --> 00:11:48,961 Speaker 2: quite a beautiful way, because I think what it does 246 00:11:49,401 --> 00:11:53,361 Speaker 2: is it takes away the shame it kind of makes you. 247 00:11:53,401 --> 00:11:54,681 Speaker 3: And it's sort of like the more that. 248 00:11:54,641 --> 00:11:58,121 Speaker 2: You learn about astrology, the more compassionate and understanding you 249 00:11:58,201 --> 00:12:02,081 Speaker 2: have for other people, because you're like, no one's fucking perfect. 250 00:12:02,121 --> 00:12:04,361 Speaker 2: We all have these real shadow parts to ourselves and 251 00:12:04,401 --> 00:12:07,921 Speaker 2: we can also of grow from those parts vesselves. 252 00:12:07,961 --> 00:12:08,841 Speaker 3: And also how. 253 00:12:08,681 --> 00:12:11,281 Speaker 2: Can I judge someone when really what I'm just like, 254 00:12:11,321 --> 00:12:13,521 Speaker 2: it's more about the fact that they're just really different 255 00:12:13,561 --> 00:12:16,121 Speaker 2: to me, and that's really beautiful and I can just 256 00:12:16,241 --> 00:12:19,601 Speaker 2: learn to understand them more as opposed to just like 257 00:12:19,721 --> 00:12:22,041 Speaker 2: fuck you, why why don't you behave like I do? 258 00:12:22,161 --> 00:12:23,841 Speaker 2: Because you talk about in your book, you talk a 259 00:12:23,881 --> 00:12:27,841 Speaker 2: lot about relationships and compatibility, which is something we haven't 260 00:12:27,841 --> 00:12:31,521 Speaker 2: spoken at all on this podcast about in relation to astrology. 261 00:12:31,881 --> 00:12:33,801 Speaker 2: Can you talk about that a little bit more? Because 262 00:12:33,841 --> 00:12:37,201 Speaker 2: some people have no fucking idea about astrology listening to. 263 00:12:37,161 --> 00:12:41,161 Speaker 1: This I can do. Okay, So this is going to 264 00:12:41,201 --> 00:12:45,561 Speaker 1: blow people's minds. There's no such thing as a doomed relationship. 265 00:12:45,561 --> 00:12:49,441 Speaker 1: In my opinion, all relationships, like all, everyone has the 266 00:12:49,521 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: possibility to make a relationship work. The most compatible partners 267 00:12:54,521 --> 00:12:58,881 Speaker 1: will still have issues because as human beings, like it's 268 00:12:59,001 --> 00:13:01,041 Speaker 1: natural where there are two human beings, there will be issues, 269 00:13:01,081 --> 00:13:02,681 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, it's just as simple 270 00:13:02,721 --> 00:13:05,401 Speaker 1: as that, no matter how you know much of charts 271 00:13:05,441 --> 00:13:07,761 Speaker 1: overlap and whatever have you. But even if, for example, 272 00:13:07,761 --> 00:13:10,361 Speaker 1: like in my book, I say, even if I kind 273 00:13:10,361 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: of got a scale that like ranks like how compatible 274 00:13:13,321 --> 00:13:15,401 Speaker 1: you are and even the ones that are incompatible, that 275 00:13:15,441 --> 00:13:17,521 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that when you go on a date with 276 00:13:17,721 --> 00:13:20,721 Speaker 1: a person that you know astrology says is incompatible with you, 277 00:13:20,761 --> 00:13:22,761 Speaker 1: and you find out they're sign and it's you know, 278 00:13:22,801 --> 00:13:24,681 Speaker 1: an opposing sign to yours, that doesn't mean that you 279 00:13:24,681 --> 00:13:27,121 Speaker 1: should get up and walk out. That just means that, okay, 280 00:13:27,121 --> 00:13:30,881 Speaker 1: there will be some difficulties to expect that but it's 281 00:13:30,921 --> 00:13:33,041 Speaker 1: you know, it's never impossible. There's always a way to 282 00:13:33,081 --> 00:13:35,841 Speaker 1: work around it. Because again, this like it's not saying 283 00:13:36,241 --> 00:13:38,561 Speaker 1: you're doom stay away from each other, everyone's staying. There's 284 00:13:38,561 --> 00:13:42,521 Speaker 1: segregated groups. Absolutely not, it's saying it's just letting you 285 00:13:42,601 --> 00:13:45,921 Speaker 1: know that, like all relationships, you will have issues. These 286 00:13:46,001 --> 00:13:48,681 Speaker 1: are what the issues are likely to be, and here's 287 00:13:48,801 --> 00:13:51,561 Speaker 1: how you can work with them, and and and kind 288 00:13:51,561 --> 00:13:55,041 Speaker 1: of you know, be prepared and and manage those those 289 00:13:55,081 --> 00:13:58,761 Speaker 1: sorts of issues. So it's kind of it's acknowledging you know, 290 00:13:58,961 --> 00:14:02,601 Speaker 1: everyone's light and shade and who you know will get 291 00:14:02,641 --> 00:14:05,761 Speaker 1: along and who won't. But it's no relationship chips are 292 00:14:05,761 --> 00:14:08,241 Speaker 1: doomed kind of thing, like like you can always make 293 00:14:08,241 --> 00:14:11,521 Speaker 1: it work. There's always there's always a way. But yeah, 294 00:14:11,521 --> 00:14:14,761 Speaker 1: but it also just can be really really helpful into 295 00:14:15,561 --> 00:14:20,001 Speaker 1: because yeah, people find that the thing is non believers 296 00:14:20,001 --> 00:14:23,361 Speaker 1: of astrology have really come around to how accurate it 297 00:14:23,881 --> 00:14:27,641 Speaker 1: is through the through dating, through dating and realizing like, 298 00:14:27,721 --> 00:14:29,561 Speaker 1: oh my god, I was warned that I would have 299 00:14:29,641 --> 00:14:32,481 Speaker 1: issues with Gemini men, and I bloody well do. It's 300 00:14:32,521 --> 00:14:36,521 Speaker 1: like it's so fascinating that that's what's made people come 301 00:14:36,561 --> 00:14:39,081 Speaker 1: around when you apply it to your love life. I 302 00:14:39,081 --> 00:14:41,161 Speaker 1: think people kind of get skeptical when you apply it 303 00:14:41,201 --> 00:14:43,241 Speaker 1: to your day to day life. And I blame that 304 00:14:43,321 --> 00:14:46,161 Speaker 1: on things like, you know, kind of crappy newspaper horoscopes. 305 00:14:46,241 --> 00:14:49,921 Speaker 1: But when it comes to compatibility, that's what's made astrology 306 00:14:50,001 --> 00:14:53,761 Speaker 1: have this boom. Like so I've noticed, for I tell 307 00:14:53,761 --> 00:14:55,241 Speaker 1: the story of the time. But so when I started 308 00:14:55,321 --> 00:14:57,361 Speaker 1: Pedestrian in twenty eighteen, and as I said to you, 309 00:14:57,361 --> 00:14:59,721 Speaker 1: whenever I go to a workplace, I think, how can 310 00:14:59,761 --> 00:15:02,601 Speaker 1: I turn this website into astrology dot com? No objective? 311 00:15:02,761 --> 00:15:06,641 Speaker 1: But no, but I did pick no, no, I'm so technical, 312 00:15:06,761 --> 00:15:08,441 Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on me just rolling out 313 00:15:08,521 --> 00:15:10,841 Speaker 1: some like regular horoscopes every now and then they said 314 00:15:10,841 --> 00:15:12,641 Speaker 1: go for it, and so I started doing that and 315 00:15:12,681 --> 00:15:14,721 Speaker 1: it was kind of it was kind of fresh. I 316 00:15:14,721 --> 00:15:16,641 Speaker 1: think they've written about like mercury retrade in the past, 317 00:15:16,681 --> 00:15:19,241 Speaker 1: but never just like you know, regular horoscopes anyway, and 318 00:15:20,201 --> 00:15:23,281 Speaker 1: it's funny like back then, so twenty eighteen, so six 319 00:15:23,401 --> 00:15:25,761 Speaker 1: years ago. I think honestly, when it comes to the 320 00:15:25,801 --> 00:15:28,481 Speaker 1: good thing about working online rather than print is that 321 00:15:28,521 --> 00:15:31,721 Speaker 1: you can see how many people are clicking on your articles. 322 00:15:31,721 --> 00:15:33,201 Speaker 1: And you can also see how they feel about the 323 00:15:33,281 --> 00:15:36,361 Speaker 1: articles because they're leading comments obviously on the post, which 324 00:15:36,401 --> 00:15:39,121 Speaker 1: is actually helpful. As scary and annoying as it can be, 325 00:15:39,441 --> 00:15:42,001 Speaker 1: it's very helpful to gauge what people are into and 326 00:15:42,041 --> 00:15:44,161 Speaker 1: what they're not and where the conversations go. And I 327 00:15:44,241 --> 00:15:47,441 Speaker 1: noticed that the commentary, it would be sixty percent of 328 00:15:47,441 --> 00:15:49,841 Speaker 1: people being like, yes, astrology tag and their friends, Oh 329 00:15:49,881 --> 00:15:51,441 Speaker 1: look this, look what it said about you, Look what's 330 00:15:51,441 --> 00:15:53,801 Speaker 1: said about me. And then there was like forty percent 331 00:15:53,841 --> 00:15:56,121 Speaker 1: of people being like, what the fuck is happened you pedestrian? 332 00:15:56,121 --> 00:15:58,441 Speaker 1: You've lost the plot? Yeah kind of thing. But we 333 00:15:58,521 --> 00:16:02,961 Speaker 1: persevered and from then until now, Honestly, I can't tell 334 00:16:02,961 --> 00:16:04,841 Speaker 1: you I write about astrology on there every week. I 335 00:16:04,881 --> 00:16:07,721 Speaker 1: cannot remember the last time I had a negative comment. 336 00:16:07,881 --> 00:16:10,641 Speaker 1: Like people are just full on like into it now 337 00:16:10,681 --> 00:16:13,321 Speaker 1: because that when you think about it, the last few years, 338 00:16:13,401 --> 00:16:16,801 Speaker 1: it's taken over social media. Ye, it's because there are 339 00:16:16,841 --> 00:16:19,521 Speaker 1: so many apps that people have like co Star and 340 00:16:19,561 --> 00:16:21,881 Speaker 1: the pattern like Channing Tatum has the pattern like who 341 00:16:21,961 --> 00:16:24,041 Speaker 1: did known? Like So my point is just like straight 342 00:16:24,281 --> 00:16:27,201 Speaker 1: men even who wouldn't typically be into it into it's 343 00:16:27,201 --> 00:16:32,081 Speaker 1: like it's become a lot more respected and received. And yeah, 344 00:16:32,161 --> 00:16:35,081 Speaker 1: people like genuinely take it seriously. But that's my thing 345 00:16:35,121 --> 00:16:37,321 Speaker 1: as well. I always say, I write to my book, 346 00:16:37,521 --> 00:16:40,121 Speaker 1: it's a guide, it's not gospel. Like take it on 347 00:16:40,481 --> 00:16:44,041 Speaker 1: as like a guide to help you, but don't. Yeah, 348 00:16:44,081 --> 00:16:46,601 Speaker 1: there is a concern with people swinging too far the 349 00:16:46,641 --> 00:16:50,081 Speaker 1: other way and reading it like it is the gospel 350 00:16:50,121 --> 00:16:53,921 Speaker 1: and being like, Okay, we don't. We're not compatible. Therefore 351 00:16:53,961 --> 00:16:57,481 Speaker 1: I'm writing you off or having preconceived notions about some 352 00:16:57,481 --> 00:17:01,721 Speaker 1: someone because typically when you meet someone, let's say, if 353 00:17:01,721 --> 00:17:03,361 Speaker 1: you do ask them what their sign is and they 354 00:17:03,521 --> 00:17:05,281 Speaker 1: tell you, oh, I'm a capcorn, and then you all 355 00:17:05,321 --> 00:17:08,721 Speaker 1: these assumptions about them. Yeah, but so that's their sun sign. 356 00:17:08,801 --> 00:17:12,041 Speaker 1: You haven't considered the entire chart. So maybe typically you 357 00:17:12,041 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: don't get along with sun signs, But what about the 358 00:17:13,961 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: moon sign that's your emotions? You know, things like that. 359 00:17:17,281 --> 00:17:21,281 Speaker 1: In terms of relationships, there's also the venus sign, which 360 00:17:21,321 --> 00:17:24,001 Speaker 1: is how you love, the mercury sign and how you communicate. 361 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:26,561 Speaker 1: So there's so many different pieces of the puzzle. You 362 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,321 Speaker 1: can't a You shouldn't write people off at all, because 363 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:31,201 Speaker 1: you know you don't want to make judgment some people, 364 00:17:31,201 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: but b you certainly shouldn't based on just one sign. 365 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: It's a guy to kind of help you. It is 366 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,321 Speaker 1: a good indication, and so it can be helpful and 367 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: do take that on board, and you know I certainly do, 368 00:17:40,721 --> 00:17:44,041 Speaker 1: but it's just not it's more of a FYI. This 369 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:46,561 Speaker 1: is what astrology says. But go ahead and see how 370 00:17:46,561 --> 00:17:49,321 Speaker 1: your relationship goes. And you know you can at least 371 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: you've been forewarned. All I'm saying is it shouldn't be gospel. 372 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: It's a guide, yes, one hundred percent. 373 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:58,121 Speaker 2: And I feel like just the relationship side of that, 374 00:17:58,241 --> 00:18:01,361 Speaker 2: Like that's not even just romantic relationships, that's friendships. 375 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,681 Speaker 3: That's colleagues, yes, and like. 376 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: In regards to like communicating and even for people listening, 377 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,521 Speaker 2: like your kids as well. You know, I've found that 378 00:18:09,801 --> 00:18:14,961 Speaker 2: understanding my kids' astrology charts and kids are like it's 379 00:18:15,001 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: so funny because like adults, you kind of grow up 380 00:18:18,761 --> 00:18:21,561 Speaker 2: moving away from yourself a lot, because you know, we're 381 00:18:21,561 --> 00:18:23,001 Speaker 2: trying to survive into society. 382 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,201 Speaker 3: Children aren't there. Yeah, they just are, so they're pretty 383 00:18:27,241 --> 00:18:28,761 Speaker 3: accurately their. 384 00:18:28,721 --> 00:18:32,681 Speaker 1: Charts a depletion of the sign. Yeah, yeah, Okay, it's 385 00:18:32,721 --> 00:18:35,801 Speaker 1: really funny to bring this up, this whole conversation about 386 00:18:35,921 --> 00:18:39,321 Speaker 1: children and their astrologies. It's so interesting that one of 387 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: my best friends, she and her partner, they're both quite 388 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,761 Speaker 1: into astrology, and so they were almost like tailoring when 389 00:18:45,761 --> 00:18:48,401 Speaker 1: they were going to conceive around the sign that they 390 00:18:48,441 --> 00:18:52,001 Speaker 1: wanted their child to be bloody works. They were like, 391 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: they were like, Okay, we're going to have a watertime baby. 392 00:18:54,681 --> 00:18:58,401 Speaker 1: We specifically want it to be a scorpio cancer. I'm 393 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,761 Speaker 1: a scorpio, I'm her best friend. And guess what the 394 00:19:00,921 --> 00:19:06,121 Speaker 1: child's birth date is going to be my exact birthday. 395 00:19:06,201 --> 00:19:09,281 Speaker 1: So it worked whatever their plan was, they timed it 396 00:19:09,281 --> 00:19:11,681 Speaker 1: out perfectly. But it's just such a funny like new 397 00:19:11,721 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: age parenty thing where it's like that has become, you know, 398 00:19:15,481 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: like just something that's even considered and for example, speaking 399 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,681 Speaker 1: of like new age, like where it's come. So I'm 400 00:19:20,761 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: now a hiring manager. I have been for the for 401 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,801 Speaker 1: the last year year in a bit, so I hire 402 00:19:24,921 --> 00:19:26,961 Speaker 1: the staff a pedition and there was a time where 403 00:19:26,961 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder if I can answer what 404 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: their signs are? Like, No, probably not. It's probably like 405 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: asking someone's age. That's a definite hr issue. I'm not 406 00:19:33,241 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: going to do that. But either way, as I said, 407 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: it's also the thing. It's also when it comes to colleagues, 408 00:19:38,241 --> 00:19:41,001 Speaker 1: it is like going on dates where it's like, Okay, 409 00:19:41,241 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: you know you may not get a long long in 410 00:19:42,921 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: these areas, but here's how you're going to work on it. 411 00:19:44,761 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: You're just going to you know, avoid these things and 412 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, bolster them with these different things. So it's 413 00:19:50,681 --> 00:19:52,761 Speaker 1: never a doomed thing, but it's always just a thing 414 00:19:52,801 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: that you know. 415 00:19:53,521 --> 00:19:56,961 Speaker 2: I think it's interesting because I do that. I literally 416 00:19:57,041 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 2: like I'm like, what's your birthday? I love like I 417 00:19:59,481 --> 00:20:01,641 Speaker 2: meet people and straight away I'm just because I think 418 00:20:01,681 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: it kind of feel like it's it's just it's like little, Okay, 419 00:20:06,041 --> 00:20:07,801 Speaker 2: I'm getting a little bit of a I'm getting a 420 00:20:07,801 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: picture of what I could be dealing with or like 421 00:20:09,761 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: you know, in relationships or friendships or whatever. Like I know, 422 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: if I know enough about their main signs, I kind 423 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: of get an idea of what their communication style might be. 424 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,201 Speaker 3: You know, like if you're dating an. 425 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,201 Speaker 2: Aquarius, don't expect many replies, don't talk to them too much, 426 00:20:25,281 --> 00:20:26,161 Speaker 2: don't you know, like. 427 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,761 Speaker 1: Yeah, where and that doesn't indicate that they're not interested. 428 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,481 Speaker 1: They're just not geminis who are like this but all day, 429 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: like what are you doing? Like, It's just it's just 430 00:20:35,761 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: who they are. So it just helps you become aware 431 00:20:38,761 --> 00:20:40,801 Speaker 1: of that. So it can be helpful in that the 432 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: ones I have the worst rap I find a Capricorn, Scorpio, 433 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: and Gemini, which I've mentioned a few times. I'm a 434 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: scorpion myself. 435 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, and do you know what's so interesting? 436 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: They're three of my favorite signs. I like, get along 437 00:20:51,721 --> 00:20:55,761 Speaker 2: so well. Geminized, I get along with so well, especially 438 00:20:55,921 --> 00:20:56,801 Speaker 2: women geminis. 439 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,721 Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with them. Same with Scorpio, same with Capricorns. 440 00:21:01,441 --> 00:21:03,721 Speaker 1: My thing that I always rant is that I don't 441 00:21:04,241 --> 00:21:07,681 Speaker 1: really see the gender in astrology all that much. I'm 442 00:21:07,721 --> 00:21:10,281 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, you know, all scorpios are fairly 443 00:21:10,321 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: similar men, women, whatever, Like that's just my opinion, Like 444 00:21:12,961 --> 00:21:14,801 Speaker 1: everyone has a different take on it. The sign where 445 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: I see the do see the big gender thing is 446 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,441 Speaker 1: with Gemini. Gemini women are the best, best, best, best 447 00:21:21,481 --> 00:21:26,481 Speaker 1: best people and Gemini, like Trump is a Gemini, Kanye 448 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:30,241 Speaker 1: elon maskall these like awful men are all geminized, but 449 00:21:30,321 --> 00:21:32,801 Speaker 1: the Gemini women are the best people you live. 450 00:21:32,921 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: Okay, that is so interesting because that is literally my 451 00:21:36,241 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 2: experience as well, and I'm very much the same. 452 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: I've always just like never seen gender. 453 00:21:40,761 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: Especially in astrology, except I've always noticed every single fuck 454 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,761 Speaker 2: with that I know is my own Gemini. 455 00:21:48,481 --> 00:21:51,921 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. That's like they have such a bad rap 456 00:21:51,961 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: and dating, but the guys, not the girls, And I mean, 457 00:21:54,281 --> 00:21:56,401 Speaker 1: you know, they bring it on themselves again and it's 458 00:21:56,441 --> 00:21:59,401 Speaker 1: not a blanket thing, but it does happen a bit 459 00:21:59,441 --> 00:22:02,241 Speaker 1: too often. That's my thing. Which astrology is just like 460 00:22:02,761 --> 00:22:04,921 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. It's just it's too act 461 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: to not be really like you know what I mean. Like, 462 00:22:06,921 --> 00:22:09,641 Speaker 1: once you just start applying it to your life and 463 00:22:09,681 --> 00:22:12,521 Speaker 1: looking at the people in your life that are different signs, 464 00:22:12,561 --> 00:22:14,801 Speaker 1: it's just like, oh my god, it makes so much sense, 465 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,441 Speaker 1: Like you can't ignore how accurate it is. Like once 466 00:22:19,481 --> 00:22:21,201 Speaker 1: you start applying it to your day to day life 467 00:22:21,201 --> 00:22:22,681 Speaker 1: and think about the people that you do and don't 468 00:22:22,721 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: get along with and where their chart falls, like what 469 00:22:26,241 --> 00:22:29,281 Speaker 1: their sun sign is compared to yours, it's just like, oh, okay, 470 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: so yes, one hundred. 471 00:22:32,441 --> 00:22:35,721 Speaker 2: How are some other ways that people can use astrology 472 00:22:35,921 --> 00:22:37,961 Speaker 2: that you find that they don't really or that it's 473 00:22:37,961 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: not really talked about very much because you know, everyone 474 00:22:40,281 --> 00:22:42,441 Speaker 2: knows they're like a lot of people know their stuff. 475 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,561 Speaker 2: There's sun sign, but like maybe not much else up. 476 00:22:46,561 --> 00:22:50,761 Speaker 1: So for example, your communication sign, let's face, communication is 477 00:22:50,801 --> 00:22:54,641 Speaker 1: everything how we communicate with other people, how so how 478 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: you're perceived things like that. So that's your mercury sign. 479 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,841 Speaker 1: So if you look at your mercury sign, that might 480 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: be more helpful when you're maybe if you're looking at 481 00:23:04,801 --> 00:23:07,001 Speaker 1: when if you're trying to navigate the workplace and you're 482 00:23:07,041 --> 00:23:09,201 Speaker 1: trying to think of, okay, so how do I get 483 00:23:09,241 --> 00:23:11,121 Speaker 1: along with you know, like you start a new job 484 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, this these are the signs of 485 00:23:13,481 --> 00:23:15,441 Speaker 1: all the people that I know. It's a tricky thing 486 00:23:15,521 --> 00:23:17,961 Speaker 1: because it's like you can't say that like people that 487 00:23:18,001 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: you just meet. Can I see your full chart? You 488 00:23:20,281 --> 00:23:21,881 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's easy to be like, oh, 489 00:23:21,921 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: what's your what's your what's some sign? But it's hard 490 00:23:24,921 --> 00:23:27,961 Speaker 1: to be like I need to see everything but hot 491 00:23:28,041 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: techno if you do want to, one thing that you 492 00:23:30,801 --> 00:23:34,481 Speaker 1: can do is get co star and add them on 493 00:23:34,521 --> 00:23:37,041 Speaker 1: that and then you can see what their full chart 494 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: is and like what you'll kind of relate to. So 495 00:23:38,961 --> 00:23:41,521 Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. That's a handy little thing. Then. Yeah, 496 00:23:41,561 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: so your communication sign is your mercury, So have a 497 00:23:44,441 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: look at what your mercury is compared to them, and 498 00:23:46,681 --> 00:23:49,921 Speaker 1: then look at the compatibility of those signs because you'll 499 00:23:49,921 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: see how you'll communicate. If you're having issues with them, 500 00:23:53,321 --> 00:23:56,281 Speaker 1: you can think, Okay, well they're a Leo and they 501 00:23:56,321 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: communicate in a dramatic fashion, and so I need to 502 00:24:00,481 --> 00:24:04,721 Speaker 1: perhaps approach the situation a bit more sensitively, not lighte 503 00:24:04,721 --> 00:24:06,961 Speaker 1: fire with fire because that's going to cause a blow 504 00:24:07,041 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: up and maybe that's just what they want, but you 505 00:24:09,681 --> 00:24:11,801 Speaker 1: shouldn't give them that. You should kind of water the 506 00:24:11,961 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: situation down and just kind of you know, take the 507 00:24:15,281 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: drama out of it, I guess, and just approach it 508 00:24:17,721 --> 00:24:20,761 Speaker 1: with logic kind of thing. So different, so that can 509 00:24:20,801 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: be helpful. Also, the venus is how you love and 510 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: what your relationships are like, So if you look at 511 00:24:27,281 --> 00:24:30,121 Speaker 1: the venus sign, that can be really helpful in love. 512 00:24:30,521 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: Whenever an astrologer does a relationship compatibility, reading the venus 513 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: sign is very important. So yeah, the venus sign as 514 00:24:38,441 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: well as the moon sign, because the moon sign is 515 00:24:40,521 --> 00:24:43,801 Speaker 1: your emotions and how you think and feel kind of thing. 516 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:47,761 Speaker 1: Another super helpful thing if you're ever reading a horoscope 517 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: or anything to do with astrology, whether it's you know, 518 00:24:50,801 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: a book or whatever it may be, and you're reading 519 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,321 Speaker 1: it and you're kind of like this, you know, my 520 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: son's sign, I'm not really quite gelling with what the 521 00:24:57,201 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: information says. Then have a look at what your rising 522 00:25:01,721 --> 00:25:05,841 Speaker 1: sign says, because your rising sign is how you appear 523 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,281 Speaker 1: to the world, and it's kind of like your essence 524 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: as well. A lot of astrologers actually recommend that when 525 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:14,281 Speaker 1: you do read horoscopes, yeah you don't even of course 526 00:25:14,321 --> 00:25:16,561 Speaker 1: read the sun sign, but put to put more stock 527 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,041 Speaker 1: in the rising in fact, so both of those are 528 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: equally crucial, and I found that that's been really helpful 529 00:25:23,001 --> 00:25:25,321 Speaker 1: a lot of the times, where to be honest, I'm 530 00:25:25,321 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: a scolpius to run through it, so more often than not, 531 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,321 Speaker 1: I totally relate to it, and I don't think I've 532 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: ever not related to it, But to give myself a full, 533 00:25:33,041 --> 00:25:37,721 Speaker 1: more well rounded guide to what's going on, I'll also 534 00:25:37,761 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: look at my rising which is Sagittarius and that's actually 535 00:25:40,481 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: the sign that everyone guesses to me, I appear a 536 00:25:43,521 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: lot more outgoing than I actually am, but I'm actually 537 00:25:46,001 --> 00:25:50,321 Speaker 1: quite introverted and like my own space. But I look like, oh, yes, everyone, 538 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: come over, when really I'm just like I like to 539 00:25:52,201 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: be alone, go away. But no, no, I'm both because we 540 00:25:55,321 --> 00:25:59,281 Speaker 1: are dynamic as humans. No, literally, we're dynamic as humans. 541 00:25:59,321 --> 00:26:02,041 Speaker 1: You can't pigeonhole people based on one sign. That's why 542 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,321 Speaker 1: the chart it's so helpful to look at the full chart, 543 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: And as you said, the best part of it is 544 00:26:07,281 --> 00:26:09,481 Speaker 1: when you're looking at just your own chart, it's kind 545 00:26:09,481 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: of like it's. Astrology has really fueled people's like self indulgence, 546 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,401 Speaker 1: which is necessary because we're in an era where we're 547 00:26:15,441 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: loving you know, therapy speak, and we're really kind of 548 00:26:17,921 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: trying to get in touch without inner self dishadow work 549 00:26:21,201 --> 00:26:23,961 Speaker 1: understand why we are the way that we are kind 550 00:26:23,961 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: of thing, and astrology helps you do that. You can 551 00:26:26,001 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: look at it and be like, why do I communicate 552 00:26:28,001 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: this way? I keep blowing up. I don't mean to you, 553 00:26:29,801 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: why does this happening? And you can look at what 554 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: your mercury is and be like, oh, it's because again 555 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,561 Speaker 1: you're a leo and so you have dramatic communication fashions. 556 00:26:37,561 --> 00:26:40,881 Speaker 1: It's how you're built, or like yeah, or like why 557 00:26:40,921 --> 00:26:43,281 Speaker 1: am I you know? Why do I love being such 558 00:26:43,281 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: a loner? And then you'll realize it's because you know, 559 00:26:45,521 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: you're a Torus moon and you just kind of like 560 00:26:47,721 --> 00:26:50,001 Speaker 1: being on your own except for you, the one person 561 00:26:50,041 --> 00:26:52,801 Speaker 1: that you know that you love being around. So it's 562 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,761 Speaker 1: just kind of like it can it really gives you 563 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: purpose and just answers to help you understand why you 564 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: are this way, because yeah, you can bug. You know, 565 00:27:03,521 --> 00:27:06,001 Speaker 1: you spend the life, your whole life in your mind 566 00:27:06,201 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: seeing therapists, and do still see therapists. By the way, 567 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,561 Speaker 1: This isn't a replacement of that, but I'm just saying 568 00:27:10,561 --> 00:27:13,561 Speaker 1: it can be an interesting piece of the puzzle speaking 569 00:27:13,561 --> 00:27:16,761 Speaker 1: of therapists actually finding a little story. So I saw 570 00:27:16,801 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow when she came to Sydney, right she did 571 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: a little talk and it was it was great, not 572 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,801 Speaker 1: a little talk. It went for like an hour and 573 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: a half, but it was great. I was I was 574 00:27:23,961 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: on the edge of my seat. And she mentioned how 575 00:27:25,921 --> 00:27:27,761 Speaker 1: one of her you know, she's very kind of spiritual. 576 00:27:27,961 --> 00:27:31,241 Speaker 1: She mentioned how one of her good friends is a 577 00:27:31,281 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: psychologist astrologist, and I was like, that is fascinating to me. 578 00:27:36,201 --> 00:27:38,801 Speaker 1: Most people would think that that's like an oxymoron. Most 579 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,201 Speaker 1: people would not go to see a psychologist that's also 580 00:27:41,241 --> 00:27:43,761 Speaker 1: an astrologist. But the more I've thought about, I'm like, 581 00:27:44,001 --> 00:27:46,801 Speaker 1: it so makes sense because that's such like a helpful 582 00:27:46,961 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: tool to be like, well, you know, you know, someone 583 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: will say what their issues in life are, like oh, 584 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:54,041 Speaker 1: I'm not getting along with this person, and then I 585 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,761 Speaker 1: guess this psychologist astrologists would be like, well, that's because 586 00:27:57,801 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: they're this and you're this, and of course you're like 587 00:27:59,761 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: this because of this, and we can work on it 588 00:28:01,721 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: this way. It can be so so so helpful in 589 00:28:06,481 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: helping you navigate life in general. 590 00:28:09,681 --> 00:28:10,321 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 591 00:28:10,561 --> 00:28:10,801 Speaker 1: Yes. 592 00:28:10,961 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: And also like I know when I've had my that 593 00:28:14,321 --> 00:28:17,001 Speaker 2: was just such a like whoa so true when I've 594 00:28:17,001 --> 00:28:20,641 Speaker 2: had my chart read before and literally like the astrologist 595 00:28:20,761 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: is going, you know when you were this age something 596 00:28:23,961 --> 00:28:26,241 Speaker 2: like did something happen around this or like this is 597 00:28:26,281 --> 00:28:29,321 Speaker 2: when such an And I was like like, are you 598 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:30,241 Speaker 2: a fucking psychic? 599 00:28:30,321 --> 00:28:31,961 Speaker 3: Like were you how do you know this shit? 600 00:28:32,041 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 2: And she's like, well, because it's literally in your chart. 601 00:28:35,281 --> 00:28:38,041 Speaker 2: So imagine being a psychologist and being able to like 602 00:28:38,241 --> 00:28:39,361 Speaker 2: understand that as well. 603 00:28:39,441 --> 00:28:40,761 Speaker 3: That to me is actually amazing. 604 00:28:40,881 --> 00:28:42,721 Speaker 2: I love that you brought that up because I feel 605 00:28:42,761 --> 00:28:45,681 Speaker 2: like you embody this as well. Right, you have worked 606 00:28:45,761 --> 00:28:50,681 Speaker 2: in mainstream media for a long time, but like the 607 00:28:51,001 --> 00:28:54,081 Speaker 2: way that you're bringing in an element that is so 608 00:28:54,481 --> 00:28:57,921 Speaker 2: not mainstream or hasn't been especially like you know, you 609 00:28:57,961 --> 00:29:02,801 Speaker 2: say you're working at Dolly, like Dolly days, it was 610 00:29:03,121 --> 00:29:04,521 Speaker 2: very different to these days. 611 00:29:06,241 --> 00:29:10,521 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred man, Oh my god. I remember. I 612 00:29:10,521 --> 00:29:13,681 Speaker 1: remember one time I got a letter in the mail 613 00:29:13,721 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: when I worked at Dolly, and it was like it 614 00:29:15,481 --> 00:29:17,641 Speaker 1: looked like one of those like ransom notes. It was 615 00:29:17,681 --> 00:29:21,081 Speaker 1: all in like block letters. It was so disturbing from 616 00:29:21,121 --> 00:29:24,401 Speaker 1: this woman who she was like, look, i haven't actually 617 00:29:24,441 --> 00:29:26,641 Speaker 1: bought this the magazine. I'm just at a library and 618 00:29:26,681 --> 00:29:28,361 Speaker 1: I've just picked it up. I don't have any kids. 619 00:29:28,401 --> 00:29:30,761 Speaker 1: I've got no skin in this game. I'm a forty 620 00:29:30,801 --> 00:29:33,641 Speaker 1: year old woman, and but I just want to say 621 00:29:33,761 --> 00:29:37,281 Speaker 1: that I think it's really inappropriate that you're teaching astrology 622 00:29:37,321 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: and magic to children. I think it's of the devil 623 00:29:40,041 --> 00:29:43,201 Speaker 1: and you should be cheating them. Proper values. And I'm like, okay, 624 00:29:43,201 --> 00:29:44,601 Speaker 1: first of all, if you don't have kids and you 625 00:29:44,601 --> 00:29:47,561 Speaker 1: haven't bought the magazine, and this isn't for you, Like 626 00:29:47,601 --> 00:29:50,121 Speaker 1: I'm not really taking your opinions on board, but b 627 00:29:50,441 --> 00:29:54,481 Speaker 1: I'm just like, it's so it's not that deep. It's relaxed, chill, 628 00:29:54,561 --> 00:29:58,281 Speaker 1: it's nothing scary, like just you know, calm down. But 629 00:29:58,441 --> 00:30:00,681 Speaker 1: all I'm saying is that, yes, they were, and you 630 00:30:00,681 --> 00:30:03,081 Speaker 1: do still get that from time to time. Now, oh people, 631 00:30:03,241 --> 00:30:04,761 Speaker 1: I've had two people told me that they've gone to 632 00:30:04,761 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: buy them my book and waiting in the aisle of 633 00:30:07,761 --> 00:30:09,761 Speaker 1: the Big w or the Dimicks or whatever will be 634 00:30:10,041 --> 00:30:12,321 Speaker 1: someone because it's you know, the mind, body, Spirit section, 635 00:30:12,361 --> 00:30:14,681 Speaker 1: so it's probably not specifically for my book, but they're 636 00:30:14,761 --> 00:30:18,121 Speaker 1: kind of waiting there, and they'll approach them and be like, 637 00:30:18,401 --> 00:30:21,241 Speaker 1: why are you buying that book that's you know, that's 638 00:30:21,281 --> 00:30:23,121 Speaker 1: of the Devil. Why didn't you come over here and 639 00:30:23,121 --> 00:30:25,401 Speaker 1: buy the Bible instead? I think that's you know, that'll 640 00:30:25,441 --> 00:30:27,721 Speaker 1: be better for you, and kind of preaching at them, 641 00:30:27,721 --> 00:30:30,161 Speaker 1: and yeah, one of my colleagues was like, well, this 642 00:30:30,241 --> 00:30:31,961 Speaker 1: is my friend bought this one. He didn't write the Bible. 643 00:30:31,961 --> 00:30:34,361 Speaker 1: He wrote this Bible, so I'm going to buy this instead. 644 00:30:37,921 --> 00:30:41,041 Speaker 1: It's in some books. There's one shout out to Harry 645 00:30:41,041 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: Hartog and marrackl. The way that it's set up is 646 00:30:44,281 --> 00:30:49,001 Speaker 1: it was like spirituality and it had like my book 647 00:30:49,241 --> 00:30:51,281 Speaker 1: and then below it was the Bible. And I was 648 00:30:51,361 --> 00:30:53,521 Speaker 1: just like, there's no ranking system, but I just love that, 649 00:30:53,681 --> 00:30:56,481 Speaker 1: Like it was just so funny to see it on 650 00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:58,881 Speaker 1: a bookshelf that it was above, like it's like the 651 00:30:58,961 --> 00:31:02,241 Speaker 1: Messiah or something anyway. But yeah, my point is attitudes 652 00:31:02,241 --> 00:31:06,081 Speaker 1: are definitely changing, and as I said, the last five 653 00:31:06,161 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: six years, and I kind of I equate a lot 654 00:31:09,081 --> 00:31:11,601 Speaker 1: of that honestly to social media. I think social media 655 00:31:11,641 --> 00:31:14,161 Speaker 1: astrology has kind of made a lot of people come 656 00:31:14,201 --> 00:31:18,081 Speaker 1: around to it and realize how fun it can be. 657 00:31:18,241 --> 00:31:20,161 Speaker 1: Like think about the means and it's like it can 658 00:31:20,201 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: be so it doesn't have to be just it's like 659 00:31:22,721 --> 00:31:24,881 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a serious like this is 660 00:31:24,921 --> 00:31:27,001 Speaker 1: the gospel. You have to live your life this way. 661 00:31:27,161 --> 00:31:29,921 Speaker 1: It can just be a silly or fire signs. Do 662 00:31:30,001 --> 00:31:32,041 Speaker 1: this on the first day, Like it can just be 663 00:31:32,161 --> 00:31:35,641 Speaker 1: fun and unserious and you get so excited, you know, 664 00:31:35,761 --> 00:31:38,441 Speaker 1: going out and meeting people like at parties and being like, oh, 665 00:31:38,481 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: we're the same sign. Yes, so you know we relate 666 00:31:40,481 --> 00:31:41,881 Speaker 1: in this way. And that's what I mean by the 667 00:31:41,961 --> 00:31:43,681 Speaker 1: club's energy. It's like when you go out and you 668 00:31:43,681 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: meet someone that's your sign, it's so exciting and you think, oh, 669 00:31:46,281 --> 00:31:49,241 Speaker 1: I have so much in common with you, and yeah, 670 00:31:49,281 --> 00:31:51,641 Speaker 1: so it can bring people together in a lot of ways. 671 00:31:51,681 --> 00:31:55,001 Speaker 1: Like like as I said, don't let you know, compatibility 672 00:31:55,121 --> 00:31:57,841 Speaker 1: push you apart. It can actually bring you together and 673 00:31:57,881 --> 00:32:00,121 Speaker 1: make you realize, oh we relate in these and these 674 00:32:00,161 --> 00:32:02,081 Speaker 1: and these ways. Or I get the opposite. I'll meet 675 00:32:02,081 --> 00:32:04,561 Speaker 1: people like oh, we're not compatible, but you know this 676 00:32:04,641 --> 00:32:06,761 Speaker 1: is this is what the areas that we do relate on. 677 00:32:06,921 --> 00:32:08,401 Speaker 1: And you know that's why there's the whole chart to 678 00:32:08,441 --> 00:32:11,321 Speaker 1: look out rather than just the sun sign. But yeah, 679 00:32:11,401 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: so it can be a really it brings people together, 680 00:32:14,401 --> 00:32:16,041 Speaker 1: I think, and I think that's really nice. 681 00:32:16,201 --> 00:32:19,041 Speaker 2: Yes, even like when you were talking about the people 682 00:32:19,081 --> 00:32:22,801 Speaker 2: that you're like not technically compatible with, I just had 683 00:32:22,841 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: such a bit of a like light bulb moment before 684 00:32:27,321 --> 00:32:31,321 Speaker 2: where because like, as an Aquarius, if I'm not compatible 685 00:32:31,601 --> 00:32:32,561 Speaker 2: with someone. 686 00:32:33,081 --> 00:32:40,321 Speaker 3: I'll just just not be around them. But I'm like, I. 687 00:32:40,641 --> 00:32:46,121 Speaker 1: Feel like there's no working around it. I just I 688 00:32:46,121 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: need to mend the gap. It's just like, Okay, tapping 689 00:32:48,521 --> 00:32:51,761 Speaker 1: out that is very I know. 690 00:32:52,081 --> 00:32:54,121 Speaker 2: And I'm like, but do you know what if I 691 00:32:54,241 --> 00:32:57,801 Speaker 2: actually took the time to understand it a little bit more, 692 00:32:57,961 --> 00:33:01,041 Speaker 2: Like I have the ability to expand and I have 693 00:33:01,121 --> 00:33:03,521 Speaker 2: the ability to sort of like because that's you know, 694 00:33:03,841 --> 00:33:06,041 Speaker 2: the way that I see everything and like all the 695 00:33:06,081 --> 00:33:09,041 Speaker 2: information that I've always gotten. It's that we're here in 696 00:33:09,121 --> 00:33:13,401 Speaker 2: this human experience to expand our souls and to learn 697 00:33:13,441 --> 00:33:15,521 Speaker 2: and to grow. So I'm like, oh, that's just such 698 00:33:15,561 --> 00:33:19,081 Speaker 2: an opportunity actually to expand yourself more because you're putting 699 00:33:19,081 --> 00:33:23,241 Speaker 2: yourself into like a really uncomfortable sort of situation where 700 00:33:23,241 --> 00:33:26,001 Speaker 2: you're having to sort of like really work against those 701 00:33:26,001 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 2: shadow sides of you and understanding their shadow sides of you. 702 00:33:29,561 --> 00:33:31,521 Speaker 2: And I think, like, again, it just comes back to 703 00:33:31,641 --> 00:33:37,041 Speaker 2: so much understanding, Like astrology can help you understand yourself 704 00:33:37,521 --> 00:33:39,841 Speaker 2: so much. It can help you understand other people. It 705 00:33:39,881 --> 00:33:44,601 Speaker 2: can help you understand your kids, like knowing your kids charts. Honestly, 706 00:33:45,001 --> 00:33:48,081 Speaker 2: even before when you were talking about the communication, like 707 00:33:48,241 --> 00:33:50,921 Speaker 2: understanding their mercury, I was like, I need to look 708 00:33:50,961 --> 00:33:52,601 Speaker 2: at what my children's mercury is. 709 00:33:53,481 --> 00:33:55,161 Speaker 3: Why have I not even thought about that? 710 00:33:55,161 --> 00:33:57,761 Speaker 1: That must be so cool to think you can look 711 00:33:57,801 --> 00:34:00,041 Speaker 1: at like their whole future in a sense, and not 712 00:34:00,081 --> 00:34:02,761 Speaker 1: in the terms of like fortune telling, but just to 713 00:34:02,881 --> 00:34:06,161 Speaker 1: know like what they're going to the personalities will be like, 714 00:34:06,201 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: and how to kind of and what to focus on, 715 00:34:09,041 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: what to foster in them, what you know, just isn't 716 00:34:11,481 --> 00:34:13,201 Speaker 1: their thing, what they might need to work on, and 717 00:34:13,241 --> 00:34:15,681 Speaker 1: you can kind of help them become better at that, 718 00:34:15,881 --> 00:34:19,361 Speaker 1: Like it can be a really useful tool for things 719 00:34:19,401 --> 00:34:19,681 Speaker 1: like that. 720 00:34:20,161 --> 00:34:24,801 Speaker 2: Yes, what else is happening like this year? 721 00:34:24,921 --> 00:34:25,121 Speaker 3: Right? 722 00:34:25,321 --> 00:34:27,961 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like the rest of this year 723 00:34:28,041 --> 00:34:33,401 Speaker 2: is going to be fucking insane in like really interesting, expanding, 724 00:34:34,121 --> 00:34:39,641 Speaker 2: expansiony kind of way astrology wise. What's happening that we 725 00:34:39,721 --> 00:34:40,521 Speaker 2: need to know about. 726 00:34:40,921 --> 00:34:44,761 Speaker 1: One of the biggest overarching things this year was the 727 00:34:44,841 --> 00:34:49,601 Speaker 1: idea that technology was going to be really like changed 728 00:34:49,641 --> 00:34:53,161 Speaker 1: and kind of left with And I think that the 729 00:34:53,241 --> 00:34:57,481 Speaker 1: biggest sign of that that we've seen is that AI 730 00:34:57,601 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: has had this boom, which is kind of scary more 731 00:35:01,481 --> 00:35:03,761 Speaker 1: so than ever, Like, I think there are so many 732 00:35:03,801 --> 00:35:05,921 Speaker 1: people this year have lost their job because of AI, 733 00:35:06,201 --> 00:35:10,601 Speaker 1: And you know, technology is like constantly rapidly growing, which 734 00:35:10,881 --> 00:35:13,681 Speaker 1: is what was kind of predicted for this year. And 735 00:35:13,881 --> 00:35:17,161 Speaker 1: even like Elon Muskers said that he's terrified of AI, 736 00:35:17,601 --> 00:35:19,081 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And if Elon Musk is 737 00:35:19,121 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: good or something, that's really really a sign. But yeah, 738 00:35:21,961 --> 00:35:23,681 Speaker 1: so I think that that's kind of a big thing. 739 00:35:23,681 --> 00:35:26,481 Speaker 1: I think, just being wary of AI to start with. 740 00:35:26,681 --> 00:35:28,441 Speaker 1: In terms of other things, there's yeah, we've got a 741 00:35:28,441 --> 00:35:33,161 Speaker 1: few retrogrades happening at the moment, And interestingly, I've actually 742 00:35:33,201 --> 00:35:36,401 Speaker 1: found that the retrogrades that are happening right now can 743 00:35:36,481 --> 00:35:40,201 Speaker 1: actually be really helpful in a way. Like retrogrades are 744 00:35:40,241 --> 00:35:43,761 Speaker 1: such a scary thing, like they strike fear in everyone's hearts, 745 00:35:43,761 --> 00:35:47,761 Speaker 1: but actually what they do is put you through tests 746 00:35:47,841 --> 00:35:51,481 Speaker 1: to help you better yourself and change change things up 747 00:35:51,561 --> 00:35:53,761 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Like for example, Saturn, we're currently in 748 00:35:53,801 --> 00:35:57,641 Speaker 1: the midst of Saturn retrograde. Satin as a planet is 749 00:35:57,761 --> 00:35:59,601 Speaker 1: it's kind of like didn't you know the Satin return 750 00:35:59,761 --> 00:36:02,241 Speaker 1: how like you know when you're in your late twenties, 751 00:36:02,281 --> 00:36:04,681 Speaker 1: you'll kind of go through a bunch of tests kind 752 00:36:04,681 --> 00:36:06,761 Speaker 1: of thing. It's known as like the task Master planet 753 00:36:06,801 --> 00:36:09,801 Speaker 1: because it puts you through different tasks to kind of 754 00:36:09,801 --> 00:36:12,161 Speaker 1: see what you're made of and help you grow quite 755 00:36:12,161 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: a thing, because without adversity, we don't grow, we stay 756 00:36:14,521 --> 00:36:16,921 Speaker 1: the same. So it is unfortunately, it is necessary part 757 00:36:16,921 --> 00:36:20,041 Speaker 1: of a necessary part of life. And I'm just finding 758 00:36:20,041 --> 00:36:21,601 Speaker 1: that a lot of people that I know at the 759 00:36:21,601 --> 00:36:23,601 Speaker 1: moment are kind of going through all sorts of changes. 760 00:36:23,641 --> 00:36:25,961 Speaker 1: I know so many people that were you having to 761 00:36:26,001 --> 00:36:28,241 Speaker 1: move for example, myself being one of them. I have 762 00:36:28,321 --> 00:36:32,081 Speaker 1: so many friends. There was mass redundancies at my work, 763 00:36:32,121 --> 00:36:33,721 Speaker 1: a lot of my colleagues kind of lost their jobs. 764 00:36:33,721 --> 00:36:35,961 Speaker 1: A lot of people are going through it right now. 765 00:36:36,321 --> 00:36:38,801 Speaker 1: It's because everyone's kind of being tested by all the 766 00:36:38,841 --> 00:36:42,121 Speaker 1: retrogrades happening. And although it's like a kind of a 767 00:36:42,161 --> 00:36:46,041 Speaker 1: scary time, I do see the dust settling and then 768 00:36:46,561 --> 00:36:49,281 Speaker 1: by the end of the year kind of not so 769 00:36:49,361 --> 00:36:53,121 Speaker 1: much being able to coast. But again, from these changes, 770 00:36:53,161 --> 00:36:56,881 Speaker 1: there's very much a vibe of if you don't take 771 00:36:56,921 --> 00:37:00,961 Speaker 1: the leap, you'll stay somewhere forever for an extended period 772 00:37:01,001 --> 00:37:03,081 Speaker 1: of time and kind of be unhappy. So it's like, 773 00:37:03,161 --> 00:37:06,081 Speaker 1: so the point is everyone's kind of being and pushed 774 00:37:06,161 --> 00:37:08,921 Speaker 1: right now, but those pushes are necessary, and I kind 775 00:37:08,961 --> 00:37:12,601 Speaker 1: of do see a positive future coming from that which 776 00:37:12,961 --> 00:37:15,761 Speaker 1: might not make sense now but will make sense in time, 777 00:37:16,121 --> 00:37:17,881 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, by the end of the year. 778 00:37:17,961 --> 00:37:20,401 Speaker 2: Do you know what is so interesting is I did 779 00:37:21,081 --> 00:37:23,721 Speaker 2: I do these like weekly group healings where it's like 780 00:37:23,761 --> 00:37:26,121 Speaker 2: this collective reikie healing and I like bring all this 781 00:37:26,201 --> 00:37:29,961 Speaker 2: information through. And that was like basically the theme of 782 00:37:30,121 --> 00:37:32,161 Speaker 2: the most recent healing that I did, where it's like 783 00:37:32,761 --> 00:37:34,881 Speaker 2: I just felt this. It was like it now is 784 00:37:34,921 --> 00:37:37,201 Speaker 2: the time. Now is the time to like do that thing, 785 00:37:37,321 --> 00:37:39,521 Speaker 2: because it's just like the perfect time for it, and 786 00:37:39,601 --> 00:37:41,721 Speaker 2: if you don't do it now, it's just going to 787 00:37:41,841 --> 00:37:43,001 Speaker 2: like become a harder thing. 788 00:37:43,081 --> 00:37:45,401 Speaker 3: And it's so literally just what you said. 789 00:37:45,401 --> 00:37:47,601 Speaker 2: And I was like, I always say, like, it's so 790 00:37:47,801 --> 00:37:51,041 Speaker 2: interesting to me when I hear astrologically what's going on 791 00:37:51,961 --> 00:37:55,281 Speaker 2: and how it relates so much to like intuitively the 792 00:37:55,281 --> 00:37:58,921 Speaker 2: information that I receive about what's happening collectively. 793 00:37:58,841 --> 00:38:00,361 Speaker 1: And it's what I was saying to earlier about how 794 00:38:00,401 --> 00:38:05,561 Speaker 1: it all goes hand in hand, which is just so beautiful. Yeah, 795 00:38:05,961 --> 00:38:08,441 Speaker 1: it's so fascinating, even like just different schools of thought 796 00:38:08,521 --> 00:38:11,401 Speaker 1: or whatever, like it's still it's the same message, which 797 00:38:11,441 --> 00:38:13,401 Speaker 1: is lovely, and then that's how you know it's accurate 798 00:38:13,441 --> 00:38:15,361 Speaker 1: as well, the fact that you know, we were both 799 00:38:15,441 --> 00:38:18,081 Speaker 1: kind of picking up the similar thing from you know, 800 00:38:18,121 --> 00:38:22,601 Speaker 1: coming from completely different angles. But yeah, overall, it's I 801 00:38:22,601 --> 00:38:24,561 Speaker 1: think everyone's kind of feeling it right now. But I 802 00:38:24,561 --> 00:38:26,761 Speaker 1: do see the dust settling eventually, and I just think 803 00:38:26,761 --> 00:38:30,281 Speaker 1: that the overarching message is, you know, don't ask why 804 00:38:30,361 --> 00:38:32,761 Speaker 1: is this happening to me? Ask what is this? Try 805 00:38:32,841 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: to tell me what am I supposed to learn from this? 806 00:38:35,601 --> 00:38:38,401 Speaker 1: And then yeah, again, the only way to grow is 807 00:38:38,441 --> 00:38:39,521 Speaker 1: through tough times. 808 00:38:39,601 --> 00:38:42,801 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I think that the moment that you surrender into 809 00:38:42,921 --> 00:38:47,481 Speaker 2: realizing that, like the point of life isn't to be 810 00:38:47,681 --> 00:38:52,001 Speaker 2: feeling perfect and happy and life is like literally just 811 00:38:52,201 --> 00:38:55,921 Speaker 2: a manifestor's dream every single second. But the whole point 812 00:38:55,921 --> 00:38:59,481 Speaker 2: of it is, as you said, it's a constant up 813 00:38:59,481 --> 00:39:01,761 Speaker 2: and down because every single time you go down, you 814 00:39:01,841 --> 00:39:03,681 Speaker 2: learn something from the down and you bring it with 815 00:39:03,761 --> 00:39:05,521 Speaker 2: you as you go back up again, and then you 816 00:39:05,641 --> 00:39:08,041 Speaker 2: just do that back and forth them back and forth. 817 00:39:08,121 --> 00:39:10,801 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm really like, whenever I write articles 818 00:39:10,881 --> 00:39:13,561 Speaker 1: or write my book and thing about astrology, I'm trying 819 00:39:13,641 --> 00:39:17,481 Speaker 1: to change people's way of thinking in rather than being like, 820 00:39:18,161 --> 00:39:22,001 Speaker 1: oh shit, Mecurretro's grades coming, like we're all we're all doomed. 821 00:39:22,081 --> 00:39:24,721 Speaker 1: But more so it's like, okay, it's coming, buckle up, 822 00:39:24,961 --> 00:39:28,121 Speaker 1: we can do it. But fore warned is fore arms 823 00:39:28,121 --> 00:39:30,321 Speaker 1: because like you know, with Macro retrograde, for example, that 824 00:39:30,441 --> 00:39:33,081 Speaker 1: you know it's helpful. Everyone knows the warnings by now, 825 00:39:33,121 --> 00:39:36,921 Speaker 1: you know, allow extra time for travel, double check all texts, emails, 826 00:39:36,961 --> 00:39:40,121 Speaker 1: et cetera, that kind of thing. So that's it's really helpful. 827 00:39:40,161 --> 00:39:42,561 Speaker 1: But it's also a matter of Okay, things are going 828 00:39:42,641 --> 00:39:46,161 Speaker 1: to change, and they're going to hopefully change for the good. 829 00:39:46,241 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like it's kind of like in Taro, 830 00:39:48,601 --> 00:39:50,481 Speaker 1: when you draw the death card, it doesn't it that 831 00:39:50,521 --> 00:39:52,401 Speaker 1: you're going to die. It's actually an exciting card. It 832 00:39:52,441 --> 00:39:55,281 Speaker 1: means change is coming. You're about to close a chapter 833 00:39:55,441 --> 00:39:59,561 Speaker 1: and open another one, which is exciting because you know, 834 00:39:59,641 --> 00:40:03,401 Speaker 1: whether you love or hate change, change is a necessary 835 00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:05,601 Speaker 1: part of life and it kind of keeps life interesting. 836 00:40:05,721 --> 00:40:09,121 Speaker 1: So it's so with the retrogrades, for example, it's just like, okay, cool, 837 00:40:09,161 --> 00:40:12,041 Speaker 1: it's you know, time to hit refresh and see what's 838 00:40:12,041 --> 00:40:12,641 Speaker 1: about to happen. 839 00:40:12,961 --> 00:40:14,761 Speaker 3: Yes, I love how you. 840 00:40:15,241 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 2: It just makes me like keep thinking about the fact 841 00:40:17,521 --> 00:40:22,521 Speaker 2: that like using yourself as evidence is like actually so profound. 842 00:40:22,521 --> 00:40:24,641 Speaker 2: And I feel like that's even like astrology and why 843 00:40:24,681 --> 00:40:28,401 Speaker 2: astrology is becoming so popular and why people are starting 844 00:40:28,401 --> 00:40:30,801 Speaker 2: to really lean into it more is because the second 845 00:40:30,801 --> 00:40:33,201 Speaker 2: that they start to even give it the opportunity to 846 00:40:33,361 --> 00:40:37,081 Speaker 2: maybe be correct, they realize that they are their own 847 00:40:37,201 --> 00:40:40,201 Speaker 2: evidence of the fact that it is. And I feel 848 00:40:40,241 --> 00:40:43,041 Speaker 2: like that's even the way, like, yes, what you're saying 849 00:40:43,081 --> 00:40:45,641 Speaker 2: about like the ups and downs and stuff, I think 850 00:40:45,681 --> 00:40:49,041 Speaker 2: we forget to look back and use ourselves as our 851 00:40:49,081 --> 00:40:52,801 Speaker 2: own evidence that we are how important it is to 852 00:40:52,921 --> 00:40:57,201 Speaker 2: sort of like experience adversities because it literally is how 853 00:40:57,241 --> 00:40:59,161 Speaker 2: you got to where you are right now. And I 854 00:40:59,201 --> 00:41:01,281 Speaker 2: think it can be so powerful and it brings us 855 00:41:01,361 --> 00:41:03,801 Speaker 2: back to ourselves and how powerful we are when we're 856 00:41:03,801 --> 00:41:06,881 Speaker 2: like my own fuck evidence of how resilient I am 857 00:41:06,921 --> 00:41:10,121 Speaker 2: and how like necessary this is one hundred percent. 858 00:41:10,121 --> 00:41:11,401 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. It's like when you're like 859 00:41:11,481 --> 00:41:13,601 Speaker 1: scared of like oh shit, you know this is coming, 860 00:41:13,641 --> 00:41:15,521 Speaker 1: It's like, well, this is you know this being like 861 00:41:15,561 --> 00:41:17,601 Speaker 1: maca retrocrat, whatever it may be. It's like, well, it's 862 00:41:17,641 --> 00:41:19,841 Speaker 1: come many times before and you've gotten through it. Not 863 00:41:19,881 --> 00:41:22,001 Speaker 1: only have you gotten through it, but you've thrived and 864 00:41:22,041 --> 00:41:25,121 Speaker 1: become better because of it. So you've got more learning 865 00:41:25,161 --> 00:41:27,321 Speaker 1: to do, more growing to do it, more thriving to do. 866 00:41:27,441 --> 00:41:29,081 Speaker 1: Because that's what like is. 867 00:41:29,121 --> 00:41:29,801 Speaker 3: I love that. 868 00:41:30,241 --> 00:41:35,681 Speaker 2: How can people look after themselves in this next saturin retrograde? 869 00:41:35,921 --> 00:41:38,721 Speaker 1: My big thing is just be kind to yourself. I 870 00:41:38,761 --> 00:41:41,481 Speaker 1: think it's we're so quick. As I said, we're in 871 00:41:41,481 --> 00:41:43,881 Speaker 1: an era where we're looking at our faults and doing 872 00:41:43,961 --> 00:41:47,161 Speaker 1: shadow work and analyzing our good parts and our bad parts, 873 00:41:47,201 --> 00:41:48,881 Speaker 1: and that is so good and I love that we're 874 00:41:48,921 --> 00:41:51,601 Speaker 1: doing that. But when you do that, don't fall into 875 00:41:51,641 --> 00:41:56,641 Speaker 1: the trap of spiraling into self pity and being mad 876 00:41:56,641 --> 00:41:59,681 Speaker 1: at yourself. Just really be kind to yourself, practice self care, 877 00:42:00,721 --> 00:42:04,321 Speaker 1: and just recognize that we are all multifaceted humans and 878 00:42:04,361 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: we all fuck up, and from fucking up, we learn 879 00:42:07,001 --> 00:42:10,201 Speaker 1: and we become better. So just overall, like the thing, 880 00:42:10,641 --> 00:42:12,561 Speaker 1: you're going to have a lot of like truth bombs 881 00:42:12,561 --> 00:42:15,641 Speaker 1: and a lot of like realizations. And when you do, 882 00:42:15,961 --> 00:42:19,361 Speaker 1: even if they're negative, like don't run from them or 883 00:42:19,401 --> 00:42:22,641 Speaker 1: hide from them, really look them in the face and 884 00:42:22,961 --> 00:42:25,561 Speaker 1: lean into it and be like, Okay, well why am 885 00:42:25,561 --> 00:42:28,201 Speaker 1: I exhibiting these bad behaviors? Why did I do that 886 00:42:28,321 --> 00:42:31,481 Speaker 1: to that person? And from there you can find solutions. 887 00:42:31,561 --> 00:42:34,441 Speaker 1: You know, you can apologize, you can see a psychologist, 888 00:42:34,521 --> 00:42:36,681 Speaker 1: you can do all these different things. But just don't 889 00:42:36,961 --> 00:42:41,001 Speaker 1: run from your flaws. Do some shadow work, and when 890 00:42:41,041 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: you do, just don't beat yourself up because that's going 891 00:42:44,521 --> 00:42:47,201 Speaker 1: to stop you from you know, from growth and change 892 00:42:47,241 --> 00:42:50,001 Speaker 1: and from fixing those issues. So just be kind to yourself. 893 00:42:50,001 --> 00:42:51,041 Speaker 3: Oh I love that. 894 00:42:51,041 --> 00:42:54,881 Speaker 2: That is absolutely perfect. Thank you so much, Matt for 895 00:42:55,041 --> 00:42:57,721 Speaker 2: chatting with me. It's been such an honor. 896 00:42:59,121 --> 00:42:59,601 Speaker 3: Your book. 897 00:42:59,801 --> 00:43:02,121 Speaker 2: We can find that. I'm going to add like the 898 00:43:02,161 --> 00:43:02,881 Speaker 2: link and stuff. 899 00:43:02,921 --> 00:43:06,441 Speaker 1: That's the star sign. Yes, yes, it's on sale now. 900 00:43:06,841 --> 00:43:09,361 Speaker 1: You can grab it from dimicks. You can grab it online, 901 00:43:09,401 --> 00:43:12,641 Speaker 1: you can grab from big w Yeah, just most places 902 00:43:12,641 --> 00:43:14,361 Speaker 1: that sell books have it. So you have a read 903 00:43:14,401 --> 00:43:16,881 Speaker 1: and you'll learn who you are and aren't compatible with. 904 00:43:17,241 --> 00:43:19,161 Speaker 3: I love that so much. Thank you so much. 905 00:43:19,241 --> 00:43:21,281 Speaker 2: Now I add your Instagram and everything so everyone can 906 00:43:21,321 --> 00:43:23,121 Speaker 2: follow you and be obsessed with you like I am. 907 00:43:23,401 --> 00:43:25,281 Speaker 1: Sounds good. Thanks so much, guys. This is so fun. 908 00:43:25,321 --> 00:43:27,321 Speaker 1: I love the pod and I'm so proud to be 909 00:43:28,121 --> 00:43:29,281 Speaker 1: a village crazy man. 910 00:43:29,681 --> 00:43:32,801 Speaker 3: Yes, I love that. Thank you so much, Matt 911 00:43:33,601 --> 00:43:34,801 Speaker 1: Thank you, Bye bye