1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Ask Fear and Greed, where we answer questions 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: about business, investing, economics, politics and more. I'm Adam Langan, Hello, 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: Sean Alma. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: Hello Adam Sean. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Today's question is a really interesting one, particularly now I 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: think is there a risk of being overinvested in Australian equities? 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, I mean the huge risk of being So 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: in a sense, I suppose if you think of it, 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: what are the risks of being overinvested in Australian equities? Sure, 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: it's interesting because the IX two hundred, it's had three 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: financial years of pretty strong returns. So you could say, 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: well that, you know why not the main reason if 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: you look elsewhere there's been even better returns. So Wall 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: Street has done better returns. But let's just take a 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: step back. Diversification really matters in financial markets now. From 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: figures there are a couple of years old, about eighteen 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: months old, it was an AX Australian Investors study that 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: said that among retail investors, sixty percent of investors held 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: Australian shares and only sixteen percent held international stocks. That's 20 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: more retail. If you go to institutional side, all in 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: STOs hold international stocks, right, because they're spreading. They're spreading 22 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: the risk. And it's really important that when you have 23 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: a portfolio of shares, you need to spread the risk. 24 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: And by getting buying international stocks then you were spreading, 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: you were diversifying and therefore spreading the risk. I mean, 26 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: we have spoken in the last twenty four hours about 27 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: Nvidia hitting four trillion US dollars. Incredible, it's now seven 28 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: and a half percent of the S and P five hundred. 29 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: If you had gotten onto that in the beginning of 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three and you'd put one dollar in video, 31 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 2: it'd now be worth one hundred dollars at this point. 32 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: It's extraordinary. 33 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, so you would have missed out big time. 34 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: So broadly it's a diversification argument. Now if you'd say, well, okay, 35 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: but you know, we're just going to go on an 36 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: etre for an Australian market. One of the big problems 37 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: with the Australian market it is so dominated by financials. 38 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I think financial is about thirty two percent 39 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: of the market. So that might have stood you in 40 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: great steed in the last twelve months when the Commonwealth 41 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: Bank was up you know forty five fifty percent and 42 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: the other big banks were up kind of twenty percent 43 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 2: or thereabouts. What about this next financial year if you're 44 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: just following the ASX two hundred only and the financials 45 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: don't do so well. What if the financials and the 46 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: miners don't do so well, then you are in all sorts. 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: So even if you kind of think, well, I just 48 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: don't want to spend my money overseas, I just want 49 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 2: to invest locally. The problem with the local market it 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: is it's just so concentrated. I mean, by SSL you 51 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: can buy the big retailers, where's farmers, some of the 52 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: tech stocks, But really, if you're just being following the market, 53 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 2: you just overweight financials and Sean. 54 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: I think it's true to say too. I mean, we 55 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: love this country, we live here, but in truth it 56 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: is not the biggest economy in the world, and thereby 57 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: the diversification you can get here is a fraction of 58 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: that available worldwide. 59 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean exactly right, And institutional investors look at 60 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: stocks from all over the world, you know, and I 61 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: think retail investors should do that. Now we're not an 62 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: investing podcast, so go and get financial advice before you 63 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: go and do it. The other thing is a lot 64 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: of returns from your super fund, because most we all 65 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: have super funds. You talk about returns from that. Most 66 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: that's actually about asset allocation as opposed to particular stocks, 67 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: and so we always talk about equities here, But if 68 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: you're investing in Australia, you can invest in a lot 69 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: of things beyond the ASEX two hundred. You can invest 70 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: in managed funds that go into private credit. You can 71 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: get into managed funds that go into unlisted real assets 72 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: like unlisted property, unlisted infrastructure. You can invest in bonds. 73 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: As borings a may sound, they are actually a great 74 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: diversification play for your portfolio. So there's a big risk 75 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: in only investing in the ASEX two hundred and one. 76 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: If you're in equities investor only, you're missing out potentially 77 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: on a lot of other potent companies like Nvidia that 78 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: have done really well, and you need to diversify your portfolio. 79 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: And the second part is if you think about asset allocation, 80 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: maybe it shouldn't just be equities. Maybe it should be 81 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: bonds and alternates and those sorts of things. Now again 82 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: I stress we are not an investment podcasts. Go and 83 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: speak to a financial advisor about what you want to. 84 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: Do, Sean, You've got an express. The trend is your friend. 85 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: Can I can I propose an addendum to it? 86 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: Please? Please? 87 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: The trend is your friend, but diversification is family. 88 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I like it, but it doesn't sort 89 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 2: of flow. Trend is your friend. Diverse think diverse is 90 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: anti perverse because diverse is actually good. I don't know, 91 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: work in progress on that one. 92 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Sean. 93 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: Thanks Adam. 94 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: If you have your own question for fear and Greed, 95 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: jump onto the website Fearinggreed dot com dot au or 96 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: send it through on any of the social media platforms. 97 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: I'm Adam Lang, and this is ask Fear and Greed