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Speaker 4: So the uninitiated, if you're joining us for the first
Speaker 4: time in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Four, welcome, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: This is where we talk about all the things that
Speaker 4: the girls talk about that we probably shouldn't talk about
Speaker 4: on air, but we do. We talk about it off
Speaker 4: air in the office, and then Andrew joins in and
Speaker 4: we're like, oh, make get.
Speaker 5: Out, tic chut.
Speaker 2: I'm usually not listening though, like I'm there, but I'm
Speaker 2: not there. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm present what you mean?
Speaker 2: And when both eyes are looking in different directions and
Speaker 2: there's dribble coming out of my mouth, Yeah, that's where
Speaker 2: I'm going to land, far far away of what you
Speaker 2: guys are talking about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, Producers, Zoe joins us produces Oe in Your
Speaker 4: twenty in a beautiful relationship with the gorgeous Alex who
Speaker 4: we're all yeah, abs from the newsroom, happily single.
Speaker 1: Who knows well this week? This week changes from week
Speaker 1: to week. Yeah, are we seeing anyone?
Speaker 3: I don't have anything to say. I will not be
Speaker 3: answering questions at this time.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm outside of court for Channel ten
Speaker 4: right now?
Speaker 1: What you got to her?
Speaker 4: Okay, this week's chick Chat. Hi, Jody, Abby and Zoe.
Speaker 4: My best friend and her fiance. This is an email,
Speaker 4: by the way.
Speaker 1: Obviously snail mail. They wrote in, Yeah.
Speaker 4: My best friend and her fiance have just called the
Speaker 4: off their engagement after six months. They got engaged on
Speaker 4: a whim and the reality of it all was sunk in.
Speaker 4: They were together for a year. He got her a
Speaker 4: super and ice ring. We reckon it costume around seven K.
Speaker 4: Now they've split. Does she have a right to keep
Speaker 4: it or does she have to give it back? We
Speaker 4: think she should keep it. It was a gift after all,
Speaker 4: but she feels bad. We don't want her to give
Speaker 4: it back as an excuse to get back in contact
Speaker 4: with him.
Speaker 1: What does she do? That's from Sally from Plympton.
Speaker 4: Well wa okay, wow, So my first thought on this is,
Speaker 4: I guess an engagement ring is a promise, Like it's
Speaker 4: a gift. As a promise, we're going to get married,
Speaker 4: we're going to be together. So if that promise is broken,
Speaker 4: then I think maybe perhaps give it back.
Speaker 2: It depends who breaks the promise too, doesn't it true?
Speaker 2: So if the partner who gave the ring it was
Speaker 2: the other person who did it, then you've probably to
Speaker 2: give it back, especially if you've called it off late.
Speaker 2: You've received the ring and it's on you for calling
Speaker 2: it off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you should give it back.
Speaker 4: But I also feel like you're missing the very definition
Speaker 4: of chick chat.
Speaker 1: It just chicks chatting anyway, ladies.
Speaker 5: So very interesting one. I think at its nature it
Speaker 5: is a gift, right, So if you make that decision
Speaker 5: to put your heart on the line and propose and
Speaker 5: give the person a ring, you've given them the ring.
Speaker 5: I think she's completely entitled to keep it, even though
Speaker 5: that might be a moral stretch, but I think she
Speaker 5: has every right to keep it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I've got a story for you.
Speaker 3: So a friend of mine she proposed to another woman
Speaker 3: and it was all fine, blah blah blah. Anyway, they
Speaker 3: broke up, so she got given the ring back. This
Speaker 3: woman said, I don't want a reminder of you, So
Speaker 3: here's the ring back.
Speaker 1: I don't want it, noble.
Speaker 3: She then has gone on and met another partner. Cool,
Speaker 3: they're together.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 3: But they've got two best friends who they as well.
Speaker 3: Were you know. She's like, oh, I can't find a
Speaker 3: ring that I like to give to so and so
Speaker 3: blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my.
Speaker 3: Friend sold because she just wants to get rid of
Speaker 3: this ring. She sold that engagement ring to her their
Speaker 3: best friends, who then went on on used.
Speaker 1: To propose they all know each other each other, so
Speaker 1: she just wanted to get rid of her I reckon.
Speaker 3: She spent six or seven thousand in the end, she
Speaker 3: sold it to her friend for like fifteen. She's like,
Speaker 3: I just don't want the ring here anymore. I mean
Speaker 3: a new relationship with had a baby, like I just
Speaker 3: needs to move on.
Speaker 4: So there's definitely something in that. Can jewelry be cursed?
Speaker 1: No? No, okay.
Speaker 4: So for example, I've still got my wedding ring from
Speaker 4: my first marriage and it's in a jewelry box and
Speaker 4: I'm thinking of regifting it to my daughter because that's
Speaker 4: her dad. So I thought that would be a nice
Speaker 4: thing to do. But is that a nice I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, because it did not work out.
Speaker 5: Answered you kept the ring?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, did you keep the engaging him as well?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: All of it Hey, they're all diamonds, mate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my mum kept her engagement ring from her first
Speaker 5: marriage and for my birthday gifted it to me.
Speaker 1: That would Did you like it?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 1: I love it?
Speaker 5: I love it. I think it's holding onto a memory
Speaker 5: a little bit like keeping memory boxes. But I think
Speaker 5: you have every right to keep that ring and do
Speaker 5: with it what you will.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I just.
Speaker 4: Is there something tainted about it? Is the question that
Speaker 4: to me, yes, a little Yeah. Thirteen twenty four to ten,
Speaker 4: he gets a ring back, he got engaged, everything was happy,
Speaker 4: the world was a beautiful place, and now it's over
Speaker 4: and romance is dead and gone. Good morning, Jenna, good morning. Okay,
Speaker 4: thoughts on this one.
Speaker 6: So it's a pretty of a different situation, obviously, because
Speaker 6: my family, you know, my parents were together a long time.
Speaker 6: They had me and my brother and you know that
Speaker 6: type of thing. But my dad actually was unfaithful to
Speaker 6: my mom after they got engaged, and so she told
Speaker 6: him she didn't want to marry him anymore, but they
Speaker 6: stayed together. Well, she made him by her a second
Speaker 6: engagement ring because the first one was painted, and so
Speaker 6: when they finally did split about thirty years later, she
Speaker 6: kept both rings and I said to her that I
Speaker 6: wanted one, you know, that's a you know history, and
Speaker 6: you hand me down, and she went and sold them
Speaker 6: both on me without telling me, And so I'm a
Speaker 6: big devastated.
Speaker 4: Actually wow wow, But youin know, don't you think there's
Speaker 4: something in that if something bad happens with jewelry, jewelry
Speaker 4: can be tainted, can't well you know, you.
Speaker 6: Don't have to keep the item as it was. You know,
Speaker 6: he canidental pair of ear rings or nice next place
Speaker 6: and make it a news story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's very.
Speaker 6: It's enough to be half the day of an engagement ring,
Speaker 6: you know, because yeah, it could be came into something nice,
Speaker 6: you know, a bit more of a positive you know,
Speaker 6: you did have a loving relationship with.
Speaker 1: That one stage.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, so the collective value of those two rings,
Speaker 4: what do you think it was?
Speaker 6: Oh, well, it was a long time ago, but yeah,
Speaker 6: you'd be looking upwards of maybe ten or fifteen thousands
Speaker 6: they were in there. Well, because the second one, the
Speaker 6: second one was a I'm really really sorry for what
Speaker 6: I did previously.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you so much, Jenna, stay sy, good.
Speaker 6: Morning, good morning.
Speaker 1: Do you give the ring back?
Speaker 7: No, he basically decided that he was going to leave
Speaker 7: after six years together we were married, and I said
Speaker 7: to him, I was like, look, if you really want
Speaker 7: to leave, I can't get these off, so.
Speaker 8: You're going to have to cut them. So he went
Speaker 8: straight to the stead got fires cut them off. Oh yeah,
Speaker 8: So I put them in my jewelry box and a
Speaker 8: few months later sold them and brought myself a ruby
Speaker 8: ring to stay like, I'm okay on my own.
Speaker 1: So the new ring was it like a sort of
Speaker 1: reincarnation of the old ring?
Speaker 6: Definitely? Not right?
Speaker 4: Okay no?
Speaker 8: But I also so these rings were the wedding band
Speaker 8: I actually paid for myself out of my own birthday money.
Speaker 8: The engagement ring was being paid off with Surgergy, so
Speaker 8: we were both paying for it anyway. So I was like, well,
Speaker 8: they're mine.
Speaker 1: Can I just say I'm glad this relationship?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 1: Oh, me too. Well, you had to buy your own
Speaker 1: wedding ring. Yeah, goodness, gracious that is well.
Speaker 8: So my birthday was only like a few days before
Speaker 8: our actual a few weeks before our weddings. Yeah, and
Speaker 8: I still didn't have the wedding ring. So all the
Speaker 8: money that I got from family and friends, my birthday
Speaker 8: I spent on the band You well
Speaker 3: Keeping that's all onto your morals, doesn't it Yeah, I
Speaker 3: have none.