WEBVTT - 👄  Chick Chat | Do You Have To Return The Ring After A Failed Engagement? 💍

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<v Speaker 1>My really, it is so time for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go girl HyG y TG yeah, the girls.

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<v Speaker 4>So the uninitiated, if you're joining us for the first

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<v Speaker 4>time in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Four, welcome, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>This is where we talk about all the things that

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<v Speaker 4>the girls talk about that we probably shouldn't talk about

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<v Speaker 4>on air, but we do. We talk about it off

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<v Speaker 4>air in the office, and then Andrew joins in and

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<v Speaker 4>we're like, oh, make get.

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<v Speaker 5>Out, tic chut.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm usually not listening though, like I'm there, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not there. Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm present what you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And when both eyes are looking in different directions and

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<v Speaker 2>there's dribble coming out of my mouth, Yeah, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to land, far far away of what you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, anyway, Producers, Zoe joins us produces Oe in Your

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<v Speaker 4>twenty in a beautiful relationship with the gorgeous Alex who

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<v Speaker 4>we're all yeah, abs from the newsroom, happily single.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows well this week? This week changes from week

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<v Speaker 1>to week. Yeah, are we seeing anyone?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have anything to say. I will not be

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<v Speaker 3>answering questions at this time.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I'm outside of court for Channel ten

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<v Speaker 4>right now?

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<v Speaker 1>What you got to her?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, this week's chick Chat. Hi, Jody, Abby and Zoe.

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<v Speaker 4>My best friend and her fiance. This is an email,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously snail mail. They wrote in, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>My best friend and her fiance have just called the

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<v Speaker 4>off their engagement after six months. They got engaged on

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<v Speaker 4>a whim and the reality of it all was sunk in.

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<v Speaker 4>They were together for a year. He got her a

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<v Speaker 4>super and ice ring. We reckon it costume around seven K.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they've split. Does she have a right to keep

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<v Speaker 4>it or does she have to give it back? We

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<v Speaker 4>think she should keep it. It was a gift after all,

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<v Speaker 4>but she feels bad. We don't want her to give

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<v Speaker 4>it back as an excuse to get back in contact

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<v Speaker 4>with him.

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<v Speaker 1>What does she do? That's from Sally from Plympton.

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<v Speaker 4>Well wa okay, wow, So my first thought on this is,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess an engagement ring is a promise, Like it's

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<v Speaker 4>a gift. As a promise, we're going to get married,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to be together. So if that promise is broken,

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<v Speaker 4>then I think maybe perhaps give it back.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends who breaks the promise too, doesn't it true?

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<v Speaker 2>So if the partner who gave the ring it was

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<v Speaker 2>the other person who did it, then you've probably to

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<v Speaker 2>give it back, especially if you've called it off late.

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<v Speaker 2>You've received the ring and it's on you for calling

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<v Speaker 2>it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you should give it back.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also feel like you're missing the very definition

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<v Speaker 4>of chick chat.

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<v Speaker 1>It just chicks chatting anyway, ladies.

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<v Speaker 5>So very interesting one. I think at its nature it

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<v Speaker 5>is a gift, right, So if you make that decision

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<v Speaker 5>to put your heart on the line and propose and

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<v Speaker 5>give the person a ring, you've given them the ring.

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<v Speaker 5>I think she's completely entitled to keep it, even though

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<v Speaker 5>that might be a moral stretch, but I think she

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<v Speaker 5>has every right to keep it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, I've got a story for you.

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<v Speaker 3>So a friend of mine she proposed to another woman

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<v Speaker 3>and it was all fine, blah blah blah. Anyway, they

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<v Speaker 3>broke up, so she got given the ring back. This

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<v Speaker 3>woman said, I don't want a reminder of you, So

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<v Speaker 3>here's the ring back.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want it, noble.

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<v Speaker 3>She then has gone on and met another partner. Cool,

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<v Speaker 3>they're together.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But they've got two best friends who they as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you know. She's like, oh, I can't find a

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<v Speaker 3>ring that I like to give to so and so

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so my.

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<v Speaker 3>Friend sold because she just wants to get rid of

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<v Speaker 3>this ring. She sold that engagement ring to her their

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<v Speaker 3>best friends, who then went on on used.

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<v Speaker 1>To propose they all know each other each other, so

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<v Speaker 1>she just wanted to get rid of her I reckon.

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<v Speaker 3>She spent six or seven thousand in the end, she

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<v Speaker 3>sold it to her friend for like fifteen. She's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't want the ring here anymore. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>a new relationship with had a baby, like I just

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<v Speaker 3>needs to move on.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's definitely something in that. Can jewelry be cursed?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So for example, I've still got my wedding ring from

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<v Speaker 4>my first marriage and it's in a jewelry box and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking of regifting it to my daughter because that's

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<v Speaker 4>her dad. So I thought that would be a nice

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<v Speaker 4>thing to do. But is that a nice I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because it did not work out.

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<v Speaker 5>Answered you kept the ring?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, did you keep the engaging him as well?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>All of it Hey, they're all diamonds, mate.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my mum kept her engagement ring from her first

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<v Speaker 5>marriage and for my birthday gifted it to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That would Did you like it?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I love it?

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<v Speaker 5>I love it. I think it's holding onto a memory

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit like keeping memory boxes. But I think

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<v Speaker 5>you have every right to keep that ring and do

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<v Speaker 5>with it what you will.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I just.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there something tainted about it? Is the question that

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<v Speaker 4>to me, yes, a little Yeah. Thirteen twenty four to ten,

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<v Speaker 4>he gets a ring back, he got engaged, everything was happy,

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<v Speaker 4>the world was a beautiful place, and now it's over

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<v Speaker 4>and romance is dead and gone. Good morning, Jenna, good morning. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>thoughts on this one.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's a pretty of a different situation, obviously, because

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<v Speaker 6>my family, you know, my parents were together a long time.

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<v Speaker 6>They had me and my brother and you know that

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<v Speaker 6>type of thing. But my dad actually was unfaithful to

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<v Speaker 6>my mom after they got engaged, and so she told

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<v Speaker 6>him she didn't want to marry him anymore, but they

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<v Speaker 6>stayed together. Well, she made him by her a second

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<v Speaker 6>engagement ring because the first one was painted, and so

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<v Speaker 6>when they finally did split about thirty years later, she

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<v Speaker 6>kept both rings and I said to her that I

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<v Speaker 6>wanted one, you know, that's a you know history, and

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<v Speaker 6>you hand me down, and she went and sold them

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<v Speaker 6>both on me without telling me, And so I'm a

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<v Speaker 6>big devastated.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually wow wow, But youin know, don't you think there's

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<v Speaker 4>something in that if something bad happens with jewelry, jewelry

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<v Speaker 4>can be tainted, can't well you know, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't have to keep the item as it was. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>he canidental pair of ear rings or nice next place

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<v Speaker 6>and make it a news story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's very.

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<v Speaker 6>It's enough to be half the day of an engagement ring,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, because yeah, it could be came into something nice,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, a bit more of a positive you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you did have a loving relationship with.

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<v Speaker 1>That one stage.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, yeah, so the collective value of those two rings,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you think it was?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, well, it was a long time ago, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you'd be looking upwards of maybe ten or fifteen thousands

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<v Speaker 6>they were in there. Well, because the second one, the

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<v Speaker 6>second one was a I'm really really sorry for what

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<v Speaker 6>I did previously.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you so much, Jenna, stay sy, good.

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<v Speaker 6>Morning, good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you give the ring back?

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<v Speaker 7>No, he basically decided that he was going to leave

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<v Speaker 7>after six years together we were married, and I said

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<v Speaker 7>to him, I was like, look, if you really want

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<v Speaker 7>to leave, I can't get these off, so.

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<v Speaker 8>You're going to have to cut them. So he went

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<v Speaker 8>straight to the stead got fires cut them off. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>So I put them in my jewelry box and a

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<v Speaker 8>few months later sold them and brought myself a ruby

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<v Speaker 8>ring to stay like, I'm okay on my own.

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<v Speaker 1>So the new ring was it like a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>reincarnation of the old ring?

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<v Speaker 6>Definitely? Not right?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay no?

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<v Speaker 8>But I also so these rings were the wedding band

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<v Speaker 8>I actually paid for myself out of my own birthday money.

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<v Speaker 8>The engagement ring was being paid off with Surgergy, so

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<v Speaker 8>we were both paying for it anyway. So I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 8>they're mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say I'm glad this relationship?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, me too. Well, you had to buy your own

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<v Speaker 1>wedding ring. Yeah, goodness, gracious that is well.

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<v Speaker 8>So my birthday was only like a few days before

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<v Speaker 8>our actual a few weeks before our weddings. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 8>I still didn't have the wedding ring. So all the

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<v Speaker 8>money that I got from family and friends, my birthday

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<v Speaker 8>I spent on the band You well

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<v Speaker 3>Keeping that's all onto your morals, doesn't it Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>have none.