1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to the official Supercoach AFL podcast 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six. We are back in the studio 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: for our first official show of the preseason which is 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: now in full swing. All clubs back in full training 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: of course, and we want to know what is happening 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: out at Clubland. Of course, a huge piece of putting 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: our teams together over the preseason is getting those little 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: nuggets of gold for what is happening out at Clubland, 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: who's flying on the track and who is playing in 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: a new position, What can really break out in super 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Coach for us in twenty twenty six. So we want 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: to get some answers and we get the journos who 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: are out on the ground for Code Sports to tell 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: us those answers and first cab off the ranks Matt 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: for us, who I'm very happy to welcome to the show. 16 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: For us, we know you're a big super coach man 17 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: and you've been out at Clubland over the last few 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: weeks as well, so you've got the inside word for 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: us on the Kangaroos calling over and we might talk 20 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: a bit about Hawthorne as well, as I know you follow. 21 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: Them extremely closely. But how's your super coach team. 22 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Looking at this stage of the season, I know you're 23 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: a bit of a more of a long term sort 24 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: of operator. Are you one of these guys who gets 25 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: in and changes your team every five minutes or are 26 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: you playing the long game? 27 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: Most years I do. 28 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 4: I typically go through it a little bit and play 29 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 4: around with it over the course of the preseason. But 30 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 4: this year I have disconnected myself a little bit. Last 31 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 4: year was a bit of a mess. So I'm trying 32 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 4: a new tactic of not really paying attention too much 33 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 4: to the nitty gritty selections, and I'll get there eventually. 34 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: It's as you said, it's a case of going out 35 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 4: to training is paying attention to what's going on in 36 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 4: the track, and eventually the team will come together. I'm 37 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 4: sure in the next sort of two weeks or so 38 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: when we start seeing teams actually take on match see 39 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 4: them take on other teams as well in the unofficial 40 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 4: practice matches, and then obviously the community series is really it's. 41 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: Not that far away now. Where about what five weeks 42 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: from the start of the season. 43 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, crazy, So, I mean, I guess that's probably 44 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: a good place to start. In terms of people who 45 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, we see a lot of you know, things 46 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: coming out on social media about you know, plays winning, 47 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: time trials and who's flying and these kinds of things, 48 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: But what what our club's actually doing at this stage 49 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: of season. How seriously can we be taking you know, 50 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: if we hear someone's at half back or something like that, 51 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, what are you actually seeing that? 52 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: It gives us that kind of intel. 53 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: Well, they're starting to match sim and really it was 54 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 4: pretty limited pre Christmas. That starts to ramp up in 55 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: January and then obviously pushing into February, it starts to 56 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 4: really become a main focal point of training sessions. They 57 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: usually have at least one quite a heavy session of 58 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 4: whether it's a half or three quarters worth of football 59 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 4: of real match like simulation where they get in actual umpires, 60 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: get them into adjudicate and run full training that way, 61 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 4: and then there's a couple of larger sessions where it's 62 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: focusing on drills and on normal or skill stuff that 63 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: they most sides do. Obviously they have fitness through there 64 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 4: as well, and then gym work as well, So there's 65 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 4: plenty of different days I guess in the course over 66 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 4: the course of the week where they're doing different things, 67 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 4: but we mainly try and get out to the training 68 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 4: sessions and watch the match sim content, so we typically 69 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: know when clubs are doing most of their work and 70 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: the heavier sessions we'll speak to the clubs about about 71 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 4: that and trying to tend those sessions because that's when 72 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: you get the nuggets a goal, like players trying different 73 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: positions or who's sort of in the best team against 74 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 4: the second team. Some clubs try and mixed up a 75 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: little bit, so everyone's a little bit different, but it's about, 76 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 4: you know, going to the sessions and making sure you 77 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: are paying attention and noticing exactly what's going on. So 78 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: it can be a little bit challenging, but we've got 79 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: a pretty good team here that that crosses off all 80 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 4: eighteen clubs. 81 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome, so I guess. Yeah. 82 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: Obviously the rehab group is kind of a big part 83 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: of that as well and players going through there, so 84 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that for sure, But we may as 85 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: well start with the Kangaroos because I think there's plenty 86 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: of interest there. 87 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: Every year they seem to throw up some some. 88 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: Really great super coach picks four us some of the 89 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: best scorers in the game, despite the fact that they're 90 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: not necessarily winning that many games, and potentially some rookies 91 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: around as well. 92 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: When you've got a club that's getting some some early 93 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: draft picks. 94 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: And from you know, we're very focused this year a 95 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: bit on certainly when I'm looking at my players, you 96 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: know who's got buyers when, and the rus don't have 97 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: one of those early buyes obviously don't play earlier in 98 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: opening rounds, so you know, nothing to worry about from 99 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: that front. So yeah, I mean, what if your I've 100 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 1: seen out at Arden Street and how are they looking 101 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: as a team, and who's who's burning up the track, 102 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: that's what we want to know. 103 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: Well, the obvious one is Harry. 104 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 4: She's well, everyone talks about him and I feel like 105 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: he's going to be in almost every team this year. 106 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 4: Obviously as eligible as a forward this year, which came 107 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 4: as a little bit of a surprise to me. But yeah, 108 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: he certainly is a superstar of the competition already, so 109 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 4: it won't waste too much time on him. 110 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: Just pick him and just move on. 111 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, currently seventy it's. 112 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 4: Really not it's more of a you know, while everyone's zigging, 113 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: you're zagging. If you're going against it. 114 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: Any forward time, it's really sort of full time. 115 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 4: It's mainly through the midfield. So far, he's so damaging 116 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: in all three lines. So it's just I think wherever 117 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: you pick him, he's going to be he's either going 118 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: to be setting up goals up forward or kicking them himself. 119 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 4: If he goes to the midfield, he's going to accumulate, 120 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: and then off the half back we know what he 121 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: can do, but that position is sort of gone for 122 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: him now. It's mainly playing that that mid forward role, 123 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 4: which is so important in footy nowadays. 124 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: It's a really damaging position. 125 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: So I think we'll see him as the starting med 126 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 4: and then pushing forward and probably kicking. You know, fifteen 127 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 4: twenty goals for the year is probably the past mark 128 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 4: for him, I would say. 129 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean supercoach scoring system, Michael. It was 130 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: good when he was just racking him up off half back, 131 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: but you know, if you're involved in those scoring chains, 132 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: Supercoach really rewards that. So yeah, it's hard to think 133 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: of a reason not to pick Harry Shoes unless you 134 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: just really want to be different from everybody else playing. 135 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: But it's a massive risk because if he gets off 136 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: to a flying start and you haven't got him. Yeah, 137 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: if we're playing catch up for the rest of the year. 138 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that half back role, I know 139 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: it north has been so lucrative for us, you know, 140 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: ever since the days of Aaron Hall and Jack Zebel. 141 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: You know, he had Caleb Daniel last year and obviously 142 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: she's all different times. 143 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: So what's it looking like at the moment Because. 144 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: Colwinn mckirch is someone who presents potentially some really good value. 145 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: Is four hundred and fifty k odd and when he 146 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: did go back in the second half of last year, 147 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: he scored really well, which is about one hundred and 148 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: three I think for the second half of the year. 149 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: But are we confident that that's where we will play 150 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: this season. I'm seeing some some conflicting reports. 151 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: I think that it'll get some time there. There's talk 152 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 4: about him pushing up on a wing or into the 153 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 4: midfield as well and trying to expose him through there. 154 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: They're very bullish on Riley Hardam as a as a player. 155 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: He's someone who's really come along. I think he's passed 156 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: about two hundred and sixty k you know, hasn't played 157 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 4: a whole heap of footy. 158 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: But he's a really good size. 159 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: He's you know, he's a bit taller and a bit 160 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 4: more defensive minded than someone like a Caleb Daniel who 161 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: was a bit of a questionable defensive player. Obviously, we 162 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 4: all know him for he's attacking threats and his scoring 163 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 4: ability in super coach, which is pretty much all we 164 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: care about well when footy teams are picking aside. Yeah, 165 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 4: Hardman probably just has that little extra you know, I 166 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: guess string to his bow about, you know, playing in defense. 167 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: So I'm keen to see him playing a fair bit 168 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 4: of footy and he uses the ball so well by foot. 169 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: But I think it'll be you know him, Caleb. 170 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: Daniel, and we'll have Colebey McKercher sort of rotating through 171 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 4: those main distributing roles. Josh god is another one who 172 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: hasn't played that much footy. You know, we've rarely seen 173 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: him at AFO level. We've only seen him a little 174 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: bit in the VFL level as well, just battling a 175 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 4: few injuries, but they're trying to get him free and 176 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: clear of that. But yeah, I think it'll be coleby 177 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: Mcircher mostly a little bit of right hard and obviously 178 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 4: Caleb Daniel's going to be down there as well. 179 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Daniel, I think feel like it's been a bit 180 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: of a forgotten man this year because last year everybody 181 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: picked him he was so cheap, and then he's scoring 182 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: up and down a little bit and by the end 183 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: of the year people would sort of off him a 184 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: little bit. But he's still there obviously for the Kangaroos, 185 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: and I think he's still going to, you know, take 186 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: one of those roles. He'll get plenty of the ball. 187 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, don't forget about him, not probably not as 188 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: a super coach. Bigger when we think about, you know, 189 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: who fills those roles. 190 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: In the team. 191 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 1: I mean another name that bobbed up that I hadn't 192 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: thought about at all. But did you see anything of 193 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: as Cooper Harvey, who has played mainly forward, but maybe 194 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: trialing him at half back. 195 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're playing him down back a little bit. 196 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: Especially with Jackson Archer going down with his ACL injury, 197 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: it sort of opens up the spot down there. I 198 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: think Cooper Harvey would be more of that medium, lockdowny 199 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: type role, which is less lucrative as from a supercach perspective, 200 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: I don't know if he's in the best twenty two 201 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: or twenty three now as it stands, especially in that role. 202 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: But it'll be interesting to see when they start the 203 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: official practice matchup the unofficial practice match, then the community 204 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: series and sort of see how they're lining up with 205 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: twenty two, twenty three, twenty six players. For now, it's 206 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: a little bit confusing because they are a team that mixes. 207 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: The A and B side. 208 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 4: You see Ward War lining up against Sheaesel and playing 209 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: against each other in as midfielders, so obviously they're going 210 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: to both be in the senior side when fit. So 211 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 4: it's a little bit hard to pick exactly what North 212 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: Melbourne's Best twenty three is going to look like, but 213 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: I would expect that he's probably not in there just yet. 214 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: What about that you mentioned Ward Laws, I know the phantom. 215 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: He is absolutely massive on him, has been for a 216 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: few years and you know we've seen he can score. 217 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: He just needs to get a decent run at it 218 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: with his body. But he's looking okay so far. 219 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been on a slightly modified program. They're trying 220 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: to hold him back a little bit. He's had soft 221 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 4: tissue injuries, he's had a bit of concussion problems as well. 222 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 4: But for the most part he's done. He hasn't had 223 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 4: any big sort of blocks of training miss. It's mainly 224 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 4: a case of and they're doing it with all their 225 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 4: all their rookies and all the younger players. I guess 226 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: where they're just trying to hold them back slightly all 227 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 4: day or they want to do is train and get 228 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 4: out on the park. But it's a case of if 229 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: you can do eighty percent of the preseason and then 230 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 4: you're doing really well. Most players don't hit that number, 231 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 4: and it's just a case of, you know, if they're 232 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 4: fully fit, just keep them in eighty percent and just 233 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: let them let. 234 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: Them so coast into the year. 235 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 4: Not coast, but you know, just if you're doing one 236 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 4: hundred percent, then something's going to go wrong and you're 237 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: probably going to get injured. So it's about holding them, 238 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 4: holding him back even when they feel fully fine and 239 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: ready to go. 240 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's three to ninety six case. So yeah, 241 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: another attempting option there in the midfield. 242 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: I mean, the other big big. 243 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: Name obviously at North is Tristan Cherry. I've saw some 244 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: things early in the preseason that you know, they just 245 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: put it full forward for a match sem or something 246 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: like that. 247 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: I don't think we need to worry about that. 248 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: But one thing that is interesting, I don't know how 249 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: you say they get a for one pois down there? 250 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: If there's can you pick up at this stage? 251 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: Is there anything that's going to change with these new rules, 252 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: especially around the rucks that you know they can't wrestle 253 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: as much and stuff like that. Is that something that 254 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: you can actually spot in match simulation. 255 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 3: You certainly can. 256 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: It's more when they give away free kicks or own 257 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 4: free kicks that that weren't there last year, So that 258 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: is interesting to watch. 259 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: I think Cherry is going to be fine. I'd be 260 00:09:59,000 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: more heat. 261 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: He does have a good leap on him despite being 262 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: one of the better wrestlers in the AFL. It'll be 263 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 4: more interesting to see how North Melbourne start to blood 264 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: Taylor Goad, how they if they line up. You know, 265 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: Jack Darling is that second Rakle Cooper trem Bath like, 266 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: there's a couple of different options there for them to 267 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: play as a second or a third tool alongside Nick Larky. Obviously, 268 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 4: cam Zhi is a bigger body, but he's not exactly 269 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 4: a massive tall target. I think Gold will get his 270 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: opportunity this year. He has been uber impressive. I don't 271 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: think he's a constant selection and I wouldn't be picking 272 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 4: him in coach. 273 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: But is he is? 274 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: He said when they could play and give Cherry a 275 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: bit of a chopic because he's really Cherry's. 276 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: Played almost one yeahs years. 277 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 4: So Gold is a two hundred and seven centimeter incredibly 278 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 4: athletic and skillful ruck. He has trialed as a bit 279 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 4: of a as a forward target both in the VFL 280 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: last year but also just a pre season. But when 281 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 4: match sim sort of starts, he is the clear number 282 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 4: two rack at the club. So it's a case of 283 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: you know, whether they can work in tandem. I know 284 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: there's a lot of talk about other clubs and how 285 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: they're going to use two rucks, but yeah, at this 286 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: stage I think God's probably outside the side, but they'll 287 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 4: be wanting to blood him and give them a few games. 288 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: Interesting. 289 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: Interesting, And then man, the other rule change too that 290 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: I think, you know, we're still waiting to see will 291 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: add much of an impact, certainly in terms of super coach. 292 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: Is the last touch between the arcs. If they do that, 293 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: it matched. 294 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: Him they try to Yeah, it doesn't. Sometimes it changes 295 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: a little bit. They'll toss it in because they're still 296 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: going to be you know, ball ins from umpires, you 297 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 4: know when it's yeah, last disposal. If it's just in 298 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 4: the balls and dispute that it will still be thrown in. 299 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, there is still a little bit of that. 300 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 4: They sometimes change. If the ball crosses the line, they'll 301 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 4: stop play and they'll move the ball to a free 302 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 4: kick twenty meters on the wing, like inside the boundaryline, 303 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: try and open the ground up a little bit more. 304 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 4: There's different ways to do it, but so you can't 305 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 4: really pick up on how limiting that's going to be. 306 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, that's one. Definitely. 307 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can watch with unoficial as you're saying, then 308 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: the official practice matches start and yeah, if it's just 309 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: knocks a couple of stoppages off a game and to 310 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: the rucks more just taking a kick behind the play 311 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: or different clubs will probably manage it differently. So yeah, 312 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: we have to wait and see how that turns out. 313 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: To any other names from North we haven't talked about 314 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: any rookies. Lucky Doveston was the top draft pick last year. 315 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: Sort of heard him talk about as a bit of 316 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: a Nick Watson type who scored okay in his first 317 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: year it despite being a small forward. He is lucky 318 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: someone we could look at or any other cheap he 319 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: is down there. 320 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Doveson will absolutely debut. I've gone pencil in round one. 321 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: North Melbourne officials are very confident that he'll be there 322 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 4: and selected for the start of the season, so i'd 323 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 4: be I don't know if he's going to be a 324 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: great supercoach pick. I know that Nick Watson turned out okay. 325 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 4: Those small forwards are always a bit of a slow burn, 326 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 4: but Watson also walked into a Hawthorne side that turned 327 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: out to be pretty okay. And yeah, North Melbourn's going 328 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 4: to be struggling a little bit more, so I'd be 329 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 4: more mindful of that for him. So I think Isaac 330 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 4: CaCO last year where we everyone jumped to pick him 331 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 4: and he was okay. 332 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: He didn't kick any bad play. 333 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: He played every week and he scored you know, you 334 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: know points here and there, but there's no massive score 335 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 4: that really caused that spike of you know, value to 336 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 4: go up. I really like Hugo mcundas a new name 337 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 4: for me. New names, Smoky Smokey to potentially d I 338 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 4: don't know if he's going to be in the Best 339 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: twenty two or twenty three, but he's been playing off 340 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 4: half back. He was drafted as an explosive half forward 341 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 4: from the Gelong Falcons, but he's a really mature body. 342 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 4: He's a quite an aggressive player in terms of the 343 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: fact he's just going to put his head over the 344 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: ball win it. And he's got a really big, strong 345 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 4: frame as well. So he's been a really impressive player 346 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 4: down back. I don't know if it's going to be 347 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: an accumulating role for him or if it's just going 348 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: to be that sort of goober Harvey style, like more lockdown, 349 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 4: but he's one to watch for certain. But yeah, then 350 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 4: it's you know Braden George. He had a bit of 351 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: a hamstring complaint recently. If he can get fit and 352 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 4: stay fit, they really came to see what he can do. Yeah, 353 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 4: so there's definitely a few players that could bob up, 354 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 4: especially early in the season. 355 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome, we love that a Boulter early on. 356 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what we get you on for for 357 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: the expressive, the big nuggets like that. 358 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: But we'll move on to Collingwood. 359 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: So obviously team in a slightly different situation to North 360 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: in terms of the premiership clock and all these kinds 361 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: of things. And in the fixture too they do play 362 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: opening round, so they ever buy in round two share 363 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: that with Brisbane, Cardon and Geelong, So maybe. 364 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: Not the worst buy. 365 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if we get going to pick heaps 366 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: of those guys from heaps of those teams. 367 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: So who would be liked down at Collingwood. 368 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: Once again, Nick Watson has been fantastic. He had a 369 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: bit of an ankle complaining, but yeah, yeah, he's yeah, 370 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: he's absolutely fit and flying. 371 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: He's he's looking great. He's running partner Ned Long has 372 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: been really impressive as well. 373 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: He's looked to be you know, even lean and then 374 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: he was last year obviously played a bit of footy 375 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 4: with as a sub as well as alongside Tom Mitchell 376 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 4: and didn't scoore that well. But when it was when 377 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: it was without Tom Mitchell as a running partner as 378 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 4: well as not copying the subverst he was outstad and 379 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: he had four hundred and ten scores. 380 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: He had five nineties, four eighties, only one. 381 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: Sub seventy, so he was for a player who sort 382 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: of came out of obscurity, you know, midseason pickup from 383 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 4: for Collingwood after failing to really crack in at the Hawks. 384 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 4: He was pretty impressive last year. Hopefully you can sort 385 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 4: of make that extra leap into. 386 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: He'll be just part of the starting midfield now. 387 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's firmly in the starting midfield. They look to 388 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: be running with, yeah, Daycos or Nick Dakos along with 389 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 4: Ned Long and it's a rotation of whether it's Josh 390 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 4: Dacos is getting a bit of a look in there, 391 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: Jordan to Go he gets a bit of a stint 392 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 4: as well. He's having a great preseason as well. 393 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, two other names that I did want to part 394 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: of me, they did want to ask about. So, yeah, 395 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: to Go he's very cheap around the three hundred k mark. 396 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: But obviously his body's been let him down certainly last 397 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: year and he's played a fair bit of forward time. 398 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, early signs. 399 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean he has scored you know, up in the 400 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: high nineties before, which would be great value and we 401 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: can pick him as a forward. So yeah, is he 402 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: someone you would consider based on what you've seen in 403 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: the in the flesh. 404 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 3: He certainly had hasn't really missed a beat at training. 405 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: He's been when he has been on deck and when 406 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 4: I've been there watching, he has been absolutely one of 407 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: the best players on the park. Here was a five 408 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: minute patch in a match sim where he kicked three 409 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 4: goals and they were three different. One was bursting through 410 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 4: the midfield, one was crumping up forward, and then another 411 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: one was sort of just getting the rebounded and sort 412 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 4: of taking a few players on and booting it from 413 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: about fifty out. So he's looking really, really sharp. It 414 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 4: looks like you'll have a pretty similar mixer. You know, 415 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: that midfield forward role, which is not unexpected for him. 416 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 4: That's the sort of position that he can score well. 417 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: That's when he's as cheap as he is, you can 418 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: be picking him and hoping that he scores eighty five. 419 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: Anything more is a bonus. So he's definitely on my radar. 420 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome. 421 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: And Josh Takosi, I think Nick mentioned in a podcast 422 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: he thought he'd come in and play a little bit 423 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: beside him in the midfield. 424 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: But do you think we see a lot of that. 425 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 4: I think he's been They've been tempted to play him 426 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 4: in there. It is quite interesting because he was so 427 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 4: limiting to Dan Houston last year. He's impact played as 428 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: a sort of the second rebounding defender. But he's a 429 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 4: very different sort of player to Josh who sort of sweeps, 430 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: whereas yeah, Houston sort sits a little bit further back. 431 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 4: So when Dacos was getting the ball on the half 432 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 4: back flank, you know, Houston was ten twenty meters behind 433 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 4: him on the other side and he wasn't getting much 434 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 4: of it. So I think they're keen to unlock him 435 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 4: a little bit and play Dacos through the midfield. He 436 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 4: certainly runs through the center at times during match. Sim 437 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 4: I think, once again, similar to She's are playing mid 438 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 4: half forward. It's going to be a mix of half 439 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 4: back and mid for Josh Jacos, which will be interesting 440 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 4: for Houston. He can't really play midfield. We've never seen 441 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: him through the center. I don't think he's a winger 442 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 4: for the Pies either, So yeah, question marks over Houston 443 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 4: exactly what his role looks like, especially if Dakos ends 444 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: up slotting into the halfback. 445 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting and what are the names jumped out of me? 446 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: And we haven't had a lot of rookies out of 447 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: Collingwood for a while, but is there a chance we 448 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: actually see some cheaper guys. 449 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 4: I think there's a couple of guys that I wouldn't 450 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 4: be locking into my team but just put on the 451 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 4: watch list. Harry Demittier has been on the list for 452 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: a couple of years. We've been waiting to see him. 453 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 4: He's looking really good. He's looking much bigger than he 454 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 4: has in the previous years. He's put on fairbit of size, 455 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 4: so he's been playing off that half back. 456 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: When he was drafted, he talked about him. 457 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: We loved super coach, so he's always been sort of 458 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: what I've watched list hoping he can crack in. 459 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm keen to see him finally crack in 460 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 4: and sort of earn a bit of footy. There's Jacob 461 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 4: Brian who plays in a similar role. He's got the 462 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 4: hair that's just easy to spot dashing off half back, 463 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 4: so he's a really exciting football But once again, I 464 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 4: think he's just slightly behind Dematia. Charlie West is one 465 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 4: hundred and nineteen k. I think he'll probably push for 466 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 4: a key forward role. Don't know exactly how that's going 467 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 4: to look into him of scoring, but it's one there 468 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: and then the other one's Joel Cochran, who's another half 469 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: back wing. He's a little bit taller than the other 470 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 4: two Demaitir and Brian, probably a little bit rawer as 471 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 4: a player. I think Nick Blakey, Josh Weddle type of 472 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 4: tall athletic half back Dasher. I just don't know how 473 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 4: he cracks in unless there is a reef mckinn sort 474 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: of set back where he can't slot in and gain 475 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 4: that that best twenty two or best twenty three key 476 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 4: position play position. That's where Cochran would sort of slote 477 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 4: in as a depth option there. 478 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: What about Yeah, you mentioned mckinnesson Also Harvey Harrison is 479 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: another one who both sort of missed most of last 480 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: year through injury. In pretty cheap you know, do you 481 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: think they're best twenty two? 482 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 4: I think that definitely rif mckinness once he's fully fit 483 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: and he's integrated in. He's another one that's been held 484 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 4: back a little bit. Has done a lot of drill stuff, 485 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 4: but also a lot of running on the sideline, So 486 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 4: it'll be interesting to see exactly sort of the timeline 487 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 4: on him if you can get right and playing a 488 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 4: bit of pre season footy in the community series, It'll 489 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: be interesting to see Harvey Harrison as well, where he 490 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 4: sort of slots in that forward line obviously without Bobby Hill. 491 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 4: At the moment, there's no real clear timeline on that. 492 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 4: We're hoping to get that in the next week or 493 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 4: two he returns to the club. But yeah, at this stage, 494 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 4: is there is definitely positions to win in the forward line. 495 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 496 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: I had a couple of players go out, not exactly 497 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: a like for like we say, Mason Cox, but yeah, 498 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: there's some spots there. I mean, the other one that 499 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: I've actually got sitting on my bench at the moment, 500 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: but you haven't mentioned him at all, which is a 501 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: bit of a worrying sign. But when Angus Anderson got 502 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 1: drafted by the Poys last year, sort of just made 503 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: a mental note because he's twenty two or twenty three, 504 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: and these are the sort of guys that you think 505 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: they can be. 506 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 2: Wins for us in super coach. But have you seen 507 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: much of him? 508 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 3: He hasn't really been playing through the midfield from what 509 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 3: I've seen. 510 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: You know, they're trying to expose him a little bit there, 511 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: but he is absolutely a mature age rookie that could 512 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 4: come in and We've seen guys like this where they 513 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 4: get picked up either midyear or in the SSP or 514 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 4: in the rookie draft. For him, he was the national, 515 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: which is yeah, he could come in and walk in 516 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 4: and play a bit of footy. There's absolutely positions in 517 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: that midfield role rotation that you know they're trying to 518 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 4: not phase out guys like Scott Penalty and stell side Bottom, 519 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 4: but they need a bit of youth to try and 520 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 4: avoid that cliff. So if he comes in and plays 521 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 4: a bit of foot I wouldn't be surprized. 522 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, definitely another name to watch. So the other 523 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: club I wanted to ask you about Walls Hawthorne, which 524 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: I know you watch very closely. Obviously, the big news 525 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: preseason news out of the Hawks was Will Day going 526 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: down injured yet a game. But with him out and 527 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: with Warple go as well to the Cats and know 528 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: Zach Merritt, it seems like there's some opportunity there potentially 529 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: for someone to come into the Hawthorne midfield who what 530 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: do you think the team's actually going to look like. 531 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, there will be a bit of change there. Obviously. 532 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: Jihan Nucomb the new co captain, who's going to be 533 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 4: a starting midfielder and play most of his footy there. 534 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 4: Connin Ash I think goes back to playing as that 535 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: more primary midfielder. He sort of went away from it 536 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 4: a leadtle bit last year. He sort of didn't fall 537 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 4: out of favor, but was he was that sort of 538 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 4: second rotation midfield. But he should start primary. There is 539 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: a bit more of a defensive player. Connor McDonald has 540 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 4: been playing pure midfield this this preseason. 541 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: Very interesting three euty one K. 542 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he certainly won. He certainly won in the forward 543 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 4: line that I will be picking. If you look at 544 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: his under eighteen status, which I know is a few 545 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 4: years ago now, but I even took a mental note 546 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 4: of this, well, not a mental note of physical note. 547 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 4: Twenty nine point eight disposals, six point eight marks, four 548 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 4: point eight tackles, zero pint eight goals. So loves the 549 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 4: number eight, it turns out, even though he's now wearing 550 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 4: the number nine. But he'll absolutely be in the midfield 551 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 4: mix to start for Hawthorne. I don't know how much 552 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 4: footy he'll play up Ford. I think it'll be once 553 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 4: again that midfield pushing forward, but he the main deficiency 554 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 4: for him coming out of under eighteens footy and into 555 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 4: the draft class. Was his kicking consistency wasn't actually that flash. 556 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 4: He was more of a handball first player inside mid 557 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: and had some good defensive traits as well. So we've 558 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 4: sort of gone away from that a little bit for him. 559 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 4: As he's played as a half forward, he's discovered he's kicking. 560 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 4: He's become a really consistent kick for the Hawks, especially 561 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 4: in that forward half. And the real question mark now 562 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: is what his defensive transitions like. Because he's played as 563 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 4: a high half fort he hasn't needed to really put 564 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 4: on as much pressure there, especially in the system that 565 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 4: he plays at the Hawks. So he'll be really interesting 566 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 4: to watch As a midfielder. I'm expecting him to be 567 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: standing in that first bounce come opening rounds, and then 568 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 4: the other two there that I've taken notes on Josh Weddle, 569 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 4: who I think is going to be more wing than 570 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 4: true midfield or inside mid there. But I really want 571 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 4: to see him bursting through the center stoppages there and 572 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 4: then Sam Butler, if you can break into the best 573 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 4: twenty three, I think he's got real breakout potential written 574 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: all over him. So excited to see what he can 575 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: do when he gets his opportunity. 576 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: Good names you did mention opening around, So Hawthorne has 577 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: a round three by with Gold Coast in Sydney, which 578 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: is a bit of a rough one because's a few 579 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: plays there that we might. 580 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: Look to pick. 581 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, some interesting names there and anything on the 582 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: rookie front. I know Olie Greaves was someone who slipped 583 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: through the draft. 584 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: And they got him. We got him as a ninety 585 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: nine k. 586 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: In supercoach, which could be great if he actually can 587 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: get a game. 588 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: Is that anything we might see earlier? 589 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: And Jack Dalton's another one who had some really good 590 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: numbers as a junior. 591 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 4: Well, certainly with the fact that there's no real or 592 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 4: there is a void in the midfield for the Hawks, 593 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 4: there are two guys that could come in early and play. 594 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 4: I think both of them have different traits that are 595 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 4: going to be appealing to the coaching or the selection panel. 596 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: Really. 597 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 4: Greaves is obviously very ready made in terms of his 598 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: physical presence, and then Dalton has got an elite fitness 599 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 4: base behind him. 600 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 3: He's an endurance athlete. He can run all day. So 601 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: both of them have a chance of debuting. The Hawks 602 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 3: traditionally don't debut anyone. 603 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: We didn't see it. We didn't see one Hawthorne debutante 604 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 4: last year. I think that trend will change. I don't 605 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 4: know if he'll be in the first week of the season, 606 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: but it should come. I think once a bit of 607 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 4: VFL form comes comes into play, they'll start picking these 608 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 4: younger guys. I'm keen to see cam neh he was 609 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 4: the first rounder. Bit of a I wouldn't say a bolter, 610 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 4: but I was a bit surprised to see Hawthorne select him. 611 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 4: But in that sort of Luke Bruce's style mold. He's 612 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 4: a bit taller, a bit more of that third tall like. 613 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: I think he plays a bit like Bruce, but he's 614 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 4: probably more size like a Jack Gunston. It'll be a 615 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 4: really interesting sort of how they use him in that 616 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 4: forward line. But he'll eventually get his run. He's just 617 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 4: been held back a little bit of training just to 618 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: make sure he's fully fit and firing. 619 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to just keep note of some of 620 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: these names because as much as we get excited about 621 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: we want to know who's going to play around one obviously, 622 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: to pick in our teams. When we start doing some trades. 623 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: You know, three four, five rounds into the season. You know, 624 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: we need some other cheeps to bring in. So yeah, 625 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: that could be the perfect time if one of these 626 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: guys get a look in for us. Just a couple 627 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: of other quick names that you know potentially around that 628 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: midfield mix. But you know, Henry Husway was someone that 629 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people jumped on last year, didn't quite 630 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: work out. 631 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 2: He's still pretty cheap this year. 632 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: And I mean kem MCKINSI has also been sort of 633 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: on the verge of you know, is he a breakout candidate? 634 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: He has been talked about for the last couple of 635 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: years ever since you know, his draft year. He actually 636 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: put up some pretty good scores for US in Super 637 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: Coach in his first season. Can you see those guys 638 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: breaking through this year? 639 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 4: I think Cam mckins is more likely than Henry Huswaite. 640 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 4: Unfortunately for Henry. Yeah, obviously, Cam had at a ripping 641 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 4: start to the season last year, if you remember, fracturedly 642 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 4: his hands went into the brace, didn't miss much footy, 643 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: but just couldn't find his form. After that, the confidence 644 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 4: sort of dipped a little bit and he ended up 645 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: playing sar but he was in the VFL as well. 646 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 4: So yeah, full pre season, hopefully you can rid those 647 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 4: demons a little bit and come back. 648 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: And as we've spoken about. 649 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 4: There's absolutely a role for him if you can, if 650 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 4: you can break in and find it, whereas Huswaite's on 651 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 4: the outside looking in. Last year was a bit shambollo 652 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 4: for him, where he'd start games and he'd be subbed 653 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 4: out at halftime, and he played a lot of VFL, 654 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 4: so I thought a fresh start for him would be 655 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 4: would have been good, but I think the Hawks are 656 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 4: pretty happy to hold on to him. He's a great 657 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 4: depth option, obviously a star at VFL level, and it's 658 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 4: just a case of finding him a position in the 659 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 4: midfield because yeah, he's a talent. 660 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: He can find plenty of the ball. 661 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 1: Thank you for us some fantastic nuggets there. That's exactly 662 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: what we want to hear, and hopefully there will be 663 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: plenty more of that coming your way over the preseason. 664 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: As you say, unofficial practice matches just around the corner. 665 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: Then we get the official community series and round one 666 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: not too far away. There is an official Super Coach 667 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: Podcast League Open League Jump in the fantoms. Let guys 668 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: are talking up how many entrance they've already got in 669 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: their league. But you know that's nothing. I'm sure we 670 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: can top that over here. The Code is for zero 671 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: seven seven five six, So jump in and take us 672 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: all on in that open league, and I'm sure we'll 673 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: come up with some mrtual surprises for who tops that 674 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: over the season. And we are aiming for two twenty 675 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: three k subscribers on the Code Sports YouTube channel. If 676 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: you're watching this, they're just hit like and subscribe and 677 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: jump over there if you're not, because all our great 678 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: content is on YouTube. And if we hit that number, 679 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: we're talking about some live shows and some great initiatives. 680 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: I think we'll go back to the league to tell 681 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: us what they're going to do. But that's a number 682 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: that I reckon we can hit as well. So we're 683 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: getting very excited about the season coming very very soon, 684 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: and we'll be back here with more inside intel or 685 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: your supercoacht sides. 686 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you then