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<v Speaker 1>It's Show and Tell time. Thanks for joining us. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Melon month today.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm good. I'm good today. My head, I've had

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<v Speaker 1>a good run with my headaches at the moment, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I really hate when you say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I said it to Sam the other day. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had nine weeks out of hospital, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god. And then the next day I had

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<v Speaker 1>a bad head. I don't talk about it anymore. I'm like, you,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to jinx myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No.

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<v Speaker 1>But because I've had a good run, it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on borrowed time now. So I've resigned to the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that I might have to go into hospital every two months,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got an extra week at the moment, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's okay if I have to go in now.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is okay as long as you know that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a solution, yes, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Issue, Yeah, the baddate solution, but there's a plan there anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm good. But I am on the bandwagon of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get a lot more protein into my diet,

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<v Speaker 1>which is doing my fucking heading.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course it's important, Yes, all this stuff's important, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's part of me that feels like this stuff can

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<v Speaker 2>be a bit triggering because again it is like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like counting calories. Yeah you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's so it's so annoying. And also I get

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<v Speaker 1>up in the morning and I'm not hungry, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just not that I'm working with a dietitian at the

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<v Speaker 1>moment because my guts are so bad and I need

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<v Speaker 1>help with getting my digestion working. And so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>non dieting dietitian, which is the only kind of dietitian

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<v Speaker 1>you should ever go to if you need help in

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<v Speaker 1>that area. But she's like, you got to start having

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<v Speaker 1>more regular small meals. I just find it's so hard

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<v Speaker 1>because like when I'm hungry, I'm ravenous. When I'm not hungry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not hungry, and trying to force myself to eat

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<v Speaker 1>is awful. But I've looked like those I bought these

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<v Speaker 1>like vegan protein bars. My god, they make me so gassy.

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<v Speaker 1>My stomach looks like a pregnant belly. I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I can't do this, but I need something

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<v Speaker 1>I can just run out the door with, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've also got those Tubani high protein yogurts and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying so hard, but I'm so bloated and

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<v Speaker 1>so gassy that I'm like, maybe protein's not for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that those yogurts that are high protein, there's

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know if it's a taste or a

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<v Speaker 2>smell to them, right, it's like it's like you can

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<v Speaker 2>smell the way or whatever is this, Yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 2>smell it. And also with yogurts for me, once you've

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<v Speaker 2>opened the tub, yeah, as soon as I open that

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<v Speaker 2>lid to have it again and I see the separation,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you've almost got to close your eyes water.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I can't look at that. I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always second guess if it's off or not,

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<v Speaker 1>which it's not. But I'm like, m's this off. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying so hard. There's only so much meat you

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<v Speaker 1>can eat and then peanut butter, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so draining. I wish this wasn't our latest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you it'll get to two years time and

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<v Speaker 1>be like it's not protein that you need, it's this,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it'll be one of those things that changes. Again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not an advertisement for this because my diet is

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<v Speaker 2>so bad, right, But I think I still think the

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<v Speaker 2>barometer is just when you're going to eat something, try

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<v Speaker 2>and have a bit of protein, a bit of veggies,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever on your plate. Just try and make it a

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<v Speaker 2>balanced meal, a rainin bough, a rainbow. But like it's

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<v Speaker 2>the counting of you need this.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't count. I'm not counting. Brook is on the protein.

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<v Speaker 1>Brook who I do icronic with, is on the protein

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<v Speaker 1>and for her health she absolutely has to be, which

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<v Speaker 1>I do too. But she bumsteered me so bad. She's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just had a high protein snack. She had a

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<v Speaker 1>corn cakes with bisc off and a banana on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, yeah, it's really high protein. So I

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<v Speaker 1>get the bisk off. I look at it. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>full of fucking sugar. There's like point five protein in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, a corncake's got none, banana's got none.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what are you doing to me? I ate

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<v Speaker 1>half the jar because it's it's like natala on crack.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just cookies.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't rate that.

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<v Speaker 1>What tastes like caramel. And everyone's like, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>get the crunchy one, the ones with crunchy bits in it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so good, and then I've been mixing it in

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<v Speaker 1>with my protein yogurt and so it's just like my

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<v Speaker 1>whole protein has just gone to shit because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>caked in piscotti. Fuck shit. One of the other things

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<v Speaker 1>that I really want to try, which the Kardashians are,

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<v Speaker 1>I forget the name of the doctor, but he always

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<v Speaker 1>pops up on my Instagram and he always talks about

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<v Speaker 1>like ADHD and symptoms of it, and like he's more

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, holistic doctor. But he was also on Chloe

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<v Speaker 1>Kardashian's podcast, which I've never listened to. If you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to that, no, no need that, but he is saying

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<v Speaker 1>that saffron. He's always prescribed saffron supplements to his clients

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<v Speaker 1>because apparently, and don't go off your medication, anyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>on it, don't. None of this is like speak to

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<v Speaker 1>your own doctor. But he was saying that saffron is

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<v Speaker 1>done doing a lot of clinical trials and it is

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<v Speaker 1>as good as an antidepressant, and also antidepressants quill your

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<v Speaker 1>sex drive. Saffron apparently increases it.

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<v Speaker 2>Antidepressants I would agree because when I've been on them

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<v Speaker 2>in the past, that's a lot of they do totally.

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<v Speaker 1>They absolutely annihilate it. But I was like, God, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to get some of these Saffron things. I looked

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<v Speaker 1>them up. They're so expensive, because Saffron is like so

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculously expensive, and I was like, oh my god. For

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<v Speaker 1>thirty tablets it was like over a hundred bucks or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I really want to try this, and Chloe

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<v Speaker 1>swears by them, but I'm like, oh, I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Chloe swears by it, but I'm sure. I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 2>other things going on for Chloe that are made life,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the normal stuff that we might feel

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<v Speaker 2>low about. And I'm not saying if you're rich or

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<v Speaker 2>immune to being depressed, of course you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>But you no, you're probably the opposite if you're that

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy to be probably depressed. But I just am like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I know that some people, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people aren't into antidepressants and will go the

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<v Speaker 1>natural route. I'm also like, there are so many different

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<v Speaker 1>types of antidepressants that Saffron can't cover all the different types,

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<v Speaker 1>no what I mean. So I'm like, oh, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>desperate to try it, but I need. If anyone knows

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<v Speaker 1>a brand that doesn't cost a million bucks and is good,

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<v Speaker 1>please show and Tell Podcasts is where you can find us.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought some little somebody sent me ones for your kids,

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<v Speaker 1>little chewelbuw ones that we've got vitamins and saffron like

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be you know, moodcarmas. Oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to give that to all my kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you know what I reckon. Just try

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<v Speaker 2>it and see if you feel a difference. One hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how long that's for.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's say thirty tablets, okay, So no, no, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you meant have three a day. So it worked out

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<v Speaker 1>to be ludicrous. That's what I was like. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also having beef liver tablets. I'm low on iron, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having an iron tablet and beef liver four of

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<v Speaker 1>those a day, and so's BackStar, so we're just churning

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<v Speaker 1>through them. I'm like, this is so ridiculous how expensive

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<v Speaker 1>it is to try and have a healthy lifestyle and

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<v Speaker 1>get what your body needs. Also, I had another appointment

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<v Speaker 1>with my psychiatrist yesterday, a half hour appointment, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he pushed it into forty five, because again he went

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<v Speaker 1>through every single note, read like on the phone to

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<v Speaker 1>me my sleep study and all other notes eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars again, and I ended up saying to him, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd really like to try this, and he's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well let's try that. And that was the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. And I said to Sam, I literally sat

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<v Speaker 1>there in silence most of it while he went over

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<v Speaker 1>my notes. Sam's like, what are the profession? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>rock up to a meeting and not be prepared for

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<v Speaker 1>There is.

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<v Speaker 2>A real thing at the moment where I actually read

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<v Speaker 2>a story a couple of weeks ago about a mother

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<v Speaker 2>who diagnosed her child like her child was having all

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<v Speaker 2>of these issues, and she took him to like eleven

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<v Speaker 2>different doctors to try and figure out what was wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're all like, there's nothing wrong, there's nothing wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>And she knew something was wrong. She fucking used chat

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<v Speaker 2>GPT YEAP, and she diagnosed it. They pushed for that,

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<v Speaker 2>she pushed for these tests to be done. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>he had what it said. I'm like, now, not that

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<v Speaker 2>I've lost faith in doctors, but the time constraints they

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<v Speaker 2>have all that sort of stuff. I'm like there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much available, like of course, like see a health professional,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's so much stuff at our disposal. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean chat GPT, but the chat.

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<v Speaker 1>GBT is proving to give in the medical world, give clearer,

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<v Speaker 1>more specific results and diagnosises. It's really diagnosis whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>is than actually, and I think we're absolutely always going

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<v Speaker 1>to need a face to face, you know, doctor. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, yeah, it's like, for example, my

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<v Speaker 1>wrist at the moment is so fucking sore, and I

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<v Speaker 1>went and got I went to my and I love

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<v Speaker 1>my GP, but went and got a scan and an

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<v Speaker 1>X ray and then I got a text from her

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's all clear. And I'm like, I can't put

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<v Speaker 1>my wrist down. I can't, like I can barely pick

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<v Speaker 1>things up. So is that it like I'm now going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to go back and go I need to

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<v Speaker 1>get an MRI now or something, because there's clearly something

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<v Speaker 1>going on that those scans haven't picked up. But I

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<v Speaker 1>hate that even things like that, you have to just

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<v Speaker 1>constantly advocate for yourself, Like I'm not just gonna sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and go all right, well, I just can't use

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<v Speaker 1>his wrist.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the like their thing is when she says

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<v Speaker 2>nothing's wrong, it's like, oh, well there's no tumor in

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<v Speaker 2>there or whatever like.

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<v Speaker 1>That, something carpool tunnel or something like that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like, going, well, can we please keep investigating this?

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<v Speaker 1>I want just somebody in my medical world because there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many to be really proactive where no one works together.

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<v Speaker 1>Something will come back and go, well, there's nothing in

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<v Speaker 1>your test results. But it's like, but I'm not okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So what else are we going to do here? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the one who constantly has to push yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's frustrating. But yeah, Sam and I were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>chap pt PT the other day and just how yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so specific with medical stuff. But also they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>trials for people with psychologists doing face to face like

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<v Speaker 1>ecologists and AI psychology and the outcomes of becoming better

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<v Speaker 1>with the AI psychology because I guess they can get

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<v Speaker 1>so they've got access to the world's knowledge that they're having.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would I definitely want a face to face

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to I don't think that would take on

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<v Speaker 1>the information of AI for that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And imagine people like imagine if you're a hypochondriac

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<v Speaker 2>and you're consulting chat GPT, and then imagine we get

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<v Speaker 2>to a space where you can access prescription medication through

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<v Speaker 2>it or whenever. I'm that scary, Yes, But I do

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm not when I say this, I'm not minimizing

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<v Speaker 2>what you're saying, because like, I am this sort of

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<v Speaker 2>person too. But I think some people are just more

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<v Speaker 2>in tune with their bodies or more sensitive to feeling

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<v Speaker 2>when they've got pain somewhere or whatever. Whereas someone else

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<v Speaker 2>might like just go, oh well, like just get on

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<v Speaker 2>with it, or my risk a sore, Oh well, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be fine, Whereas there's a feeling like it's almost like

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<v Speaker 2>when we were talking the other day about like being

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<v Speaker 2>more emotional, it's like you're more in tuned to feelings

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<v Speaker 2>in your body, so the intensity of it feels more

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<v Speaker 2>because you're more connected to your body.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe yeah, I also think some people are just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>just suck it up, you know. To me, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't suck it up. I can't lift up my

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<v Speaker 1>kid properly, Like no, no, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel I have a very high pain threshold. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's like if it's I just am conscious and I

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<v Speaker 1>think I have a health anxiety that I'm like, if

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<v Speaker 1>I feel something in my body, I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 1>it checked. I'm not waiting until it's too late. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my worst night. I'm going to get something and go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well if you didn't, like, for example, Sam's due to

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<v Speaker 1>have a colonoscopy and just one of those shit tests

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been sitting by his bed for like six months,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, that's going to be the test where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you should have got to it earlier, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you just just do the fucking test. It's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting though, talking about the doctors, you know, and getting

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<v Speaker 1>prescription that you know, how you can do online doctors

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<v Speaker 1>like you can just not your normal one, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can just do I forget what they're called, yeah d

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<v Speaker 1>on demand. Yeah exactly. So two of my mates got

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<v Speaker 1>ozen picked through and the doctor made them take a

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<v Speaker 1>photo and send through the photo and said through the

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<v Speaker 1>photo yes. So one of my friends that's literally pushed

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<v Speaker 1>her face back so it like made a bigger double

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<v Speaker 1>chin and sent it through and got a prescription for it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's That's why I feel like we've gone too far.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, things like that. It's like, that's good. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's it called, like willy nilly, Yeah, that'll do.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Speaking being annoyed, you know how. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to say a new segment, of course, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>we do embarrassing for no reason. Yes, I was thinking

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<v Speaker 2>the other day, like one of my most used phrases

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<v Speaker 2>is for fuck's sake, Yes, just like all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>everything pisses me off, And I was just being aware

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<v Speaker 2>of things that were making me angry. But how irrational

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<v Speaker 2>they were.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they're all usually irrational.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean I would say, for a like a

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<v Speaker 2>normal person, you can just go, oh, that's annoying, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to have it like a fucking hisssy

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<v Speaker 2>fit over it. But I made a little list of

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<v Speaker 2>some things that are making me irrationally angry. This happened

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<v Speaker 2>the other day. You know, when you pump out moisturizer

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<v Speaker 2>or face wash or something, and it's like on the

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<v Speaker 2>spout where it comes out, it's hardened a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when you push it, it squirts off in

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<v Speaker 2>another direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Direction. Ye hit me right in the eye. It was

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<v Speaker 1>facial No, that's fair enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Was so angry, like it pissed me off. And it

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<v Speaker 2>also happens with my moisturizer a lot, my body moisturizer.

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<v Speaker 1>The body moisturizer always clunks up there, goos.

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<v Speaker 2>Up the top, it goes on the floor and then

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<v Speaker 2>the floor slippery.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I know it. Well, I've read a meme the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. It's like you know that you yeah, irrationally

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<v Speaker 1>irritable or anxious when you get like over the top

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<v Speaker 1>about objects as opposed to people, like you know, getting

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<v Speaker 1>your top court on a door when you cross or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It always have that anger in that moment, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you're so frustrated that it can be good because it

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<v Speaker 2>can take a comedic turn and then the laughter breaks it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you realize how fucking stupid you look trying. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a people related thing, a child related thing. The

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<v Speaker 2>following responses to questions, I don't know. It wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot. And I know every time I say to

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<v Speaker 2>my kids, you know you've got to do that, and

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<v Speaker 2>they say, oh, I know, I have asked you five times.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know. Every time they say it, I look

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<v Speaker 2>at them and I know this is very bad parenting

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, don't fucking say you know you don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you knew, you would do it. They like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a punish Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I hear myself with backs, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>i am such a punished because can you please pick

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<v Speaker 1>up your clothes in the bathroom? I will. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>but you won't because you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like a reasonable request, doesn't it is not

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<v Speaker 2>reasonable reason, and you make things as easy as you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Like my kids have baskets in their room to put

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<v Speaker 2>their dirty washing in.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to do that for backs. I get them

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<v Speaker 1>to put it straight into the laundry. I'm thinking I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to get him to start doing his own laundry.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm like, no, maybe I should still do

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<v Speaker 1>it. It's a motherly thing to do. But I'm like, they've

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<v Speaker 1>just got no idea what it takes to run a house.

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<v Speaker 1>And the entitlement of them. How's this the other day?

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<v Speaker 1>Because in the morning, it's such a fine toothcomb to

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<v Speaker 1>get backs to school. It's like everything has to be

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<v Speaker 1>smooth sailing. So it's like he's treated like a baby

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<v Speaker 1>in there, because in the mornings because that's just the

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<v Speaker 1>way it has to run in our house. And now

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<v Speaker 1>the day, I said, get your own breakfast, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he gets Natalla on toast and I said, don't make

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<v Speaker 1>yourself Natella on toast again. He said, well, don't make

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<v Speaker 1>me make my own breakfast. It's yeah. God. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I fucked you. I have single handedly fucking broken you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got so angry. I'm like, how dare you

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<v Speaker 1>You're making your own dattas from now? Like you just

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<v Speaker 1>get so and he just was an off the cuff

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<v Speaker 1>like he doesn't. He's not that much of a brat,

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<v Speaker 1>But in that moment, I'm like, you're an entitled, fucking prick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so rude. You could do your In my head,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what can I get him to do or

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<v Speaker 1>get him to do his own washing?

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe like washing, this is just for me though,

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<v Speaker 2>like so everyone does their own thing. To me, washing

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<v Speaker 2>feels extreme, but I think, like my kids make their

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<v Speaker 2>own breakfast and their own lunches, their own school, I

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<v Speaker 2>should right, Like I think what we do sometimes we

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<v Speaker 2>all do is it's just you can't be fucked with

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<v Speaker 2>the art.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't be you're like same as I pack all

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<v Speaker 1>the boys lunches. But that's because I like to know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting a salad sandwich in there, or you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>some fruit. If I said to backs pack your own lunch,

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<v Speaker 1>it would just literally be six packets chips.

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<v Speaker 2>But then maybe it's for example, like if you say

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<v Speaker 2>to them, okay, pack it the night before, then you

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<v Speaker 2>can look at it and say, listen, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>put a piece of fruit in there or something. And

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<v Speaker 2>then some days you're a bit looser like okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>you can.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what to do that. It literally comes down

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<v Speaker 1>to Sam and are going what capacity do we have

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment to enforce these rules, Like you set

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<v Speaker 1>the rule and then it is up to you to

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<v Speaker 1>enforce it as the parent. And sometimes I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have any capacity, But I also know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>crippling my children in the process of it. Like some

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a friend whose kids do everything. They're unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the ones who prep the dinner, cook the dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>they do their own breakfast, they do, you know, go

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<v Speaker 1>and do the shopping and the cleanic like it's and

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<v Speaker 1>they are such incredible kids that to me I compare

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<v Speaker 1>myself and go, fuck my kid, like, well, just pour

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<v Speaker 1>corn flakes or poor make himself a tell her on toast,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what he thinks a good breakfast. DearS, I

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<v Speaker 1>just do everything.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where parenting becomes, like it's so individualized. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that you should let kids be kids

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<v Speaker 2>in some ways too, So to do shopping and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't think that's a kid's responsibility. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's their responsibility to help out. Yeah, and pull

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<v Speaker 2>their weight in some ways, but yeah, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of feel like while they're young, like if

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about early teenagers or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I know it's hard to know, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you've also got to read your kids. Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>get really down on myself, and then I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>know my kid's capacity, I know my capacity, and I

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<v Speaker 1>also have to remind myself I'm doing the best I can. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I get really down on myself around my kids because

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<v Speaker 1>it's our biggest thing. It's our biggest thing in life,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just don't want to raise assholes and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure they're happy. And I have to

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<v Speaker 1>just go you're doing the best you can. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>have to constantly remind myself that because I put myself

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<v Speaker 1>down so much as a parent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like, as you've said before, though, when he's

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<v Speaker 2>not at home, the feedback is incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's got a job, like he works, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every Saturday and Friday after school, so I'm like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>stuff going on there. But then, yeah, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>so dangerous. Compare your kids to other kids or the

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<v Speaker 1>way you parent to other people, especially if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>neurodivergency in the household. It's like you're parenting is very

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<v Speaker 1>different than when it's quote unquote typical kids.

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<v Speaker 2>It's different. I think our job is just to try

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<v Speaker 2>and equip them with the tools to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>like be a functioning, fucking kind an adult.

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<v Speaker 1>Side, I'm like, my aim for my boys when they

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<v Speaker 1>leave home is to be able to cook themselves two

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<v Speaker 1>different meals. And then I'm like, that's all right, You'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to live if you cook two different meals.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what they might hate. One might love

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<v Speaker 2>cooking and they'll make fifty thousand different meals, and one

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<v Speaker 2>might hate cooking, and they'll you know.

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<v Speaker 1>They've goft two minute noodles, and you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What, this is what I say to my husband all

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<v Speaker 2>the time too. Remember what you were like at fourteen?

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<v Speaker 2>Will you offering to help your mum? Know she was

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<v Speaker 2>probably writing you the same way that we do it

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<v Speaker 2>with our kids. So sometimes I think you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>go back and remember what it was like. And I

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<v Speaker 2>know when my mum used to pack my lunch, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I would go to school and a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>time I'd throw it out and I'd buy shit from

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<v Speaker 2>the canteen. So we can control, Okay, we want to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure they've got a nutritious lunch, but we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if they're fucking eating it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I am going to start making him do

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<v Speaker 1>his own lunch, though. I think I'll still make the

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<v Speaker 1>sandwich so I can make like a healthy sandwich and

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<v Speaker 1>he can just put the rest of the shit in there,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not hard.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the it's the complaining is annoying. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's just us being able to and it's so much

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<v Speaker 2>easier said than done, because I just was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how I fucking go off about it. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's just when they go.

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<v Speaker 1>But do I have to make my lunch Why do

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 2>To make us just being calm and going That's what

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Otherwise you go hungry or you spend your own

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<v Speaker 1>money that you're making at the Canteen Good Workshop.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so sold at Parenting Problems of the World. Yeah,

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