WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 17 September 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:04.479 On scoring Lils Ostrodio. 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:07.200 This is the Wader Panalty Show. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.160 Good evening and welcome to the Rita Paney Show. Coming 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:15.040 up tonight a massive program. Joining me will be James Morrow, 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:18.919 Josh Hammer and Caroline Marcus, and later in the hour 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.640 Stephanie Bastian will have the latest on the John Passeuto 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:27.160 Deeming child. Of course, we never forget left He's losing 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:31.520 it tonight when Wolf stars She's the wife of Kamala 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:37.159 Harris's VP pick Tim Walls. Two days and we are 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:44.000 turned the Bay. 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.199 By bye, Donald Trump. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.200 Let's start with the astonishing front page splash from Michael 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:52.479 Warner in today's Harold Son detailing the bomb show claims 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:56.120 from a review of the Daniel and Catherine Andrews car crash, 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:00.959 which has concluded that Victoria police engaged in an overt 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:05.640 cover up to avoid implicating a political figure in a 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:11.040 life threatening incident. This explosive thirty six page assessment by 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:15.400 former police assistant commissioner asserts that the Andrews family suv 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.959 was traveling at speed and on the wrong side of 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:23.000 the road when it struck teenage cyclist Ryan Muhlman in 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:27.920 blen Gowery Back in January seven, two thousand and thirteen. 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.600 Now we have heard differing accounts of what happened from 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:36.040 those who were there. Dan and Catherine Andrews insisted that 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.520 they came to a complete stop and turn right from 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:45.280 a stationery position just moments before being t boned by 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:49.600 the cyclist. T Boned is the expression that was used, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.520 but the pictures of the car showed something entirely different. 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:57.760 And now the expert review conducted by the state's former 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:02.480 Assistant Commissioner for Traffic and Operationations, doctor Raymond Suey, it's 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:06.680 concluded the police investigation, which supported the Andrews version of 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:14.200 events was deeply flawed, unfounded, and contrary to the available evidence. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.639 Dtor Sheuey writes the version as provided by Catherine and 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:25.960 Daniel Andrews is considered improbable and implausible. The propagation of 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:30.919 a lie and striking deception, the report claims, began when 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:36.280 the driver's name was recorded as Katherine Louise Kessick, which 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.480 is missus Andrews made a name in a traffic incident 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.679 system reports submitted by police in the hours after the crash. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.840 And we'll have more on the police breaches a little 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:52.360 later now, Doctor Schuey's review was commissioned by mister Meulman's 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:57.280 lawyers as part of an ongoing Supreme Court damages proceedings 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.760 into the crash. I spoke to Ryan's father, Peter Meulman 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.720 back in June, and here was clear that the family 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.280 will not stop seeking justice for Ryan. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.840 We're hoping to get justice for Ryan from this. It's 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.320 just been such a long road for us. So we'd 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.560 really like to get closure on the case. If you've 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.960 got nothing to hide, you'd be transparent about all of 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:24.040 those records. So just want that clarity and that closure 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:25.400 and that justice. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:30.200 Joining me now, Sky you Senior reporter Caroline Marcus. Caroline, 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:36.000 this is an explosive story. Michael Warner has been doggedly 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.840 pursuing it while the bulk of the Victorian media looks 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:45.480 the other way. The revelations the claims here are deeply worrying. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.320 What do you make of what you've read today? 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:54.040 Well, it has been extraordinary, Brito, because this review has 0:03:54.120 --> 0:04:00.720 been unequivocally scathing of Victoria Police and it's handling of 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:01.760 this crash. 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.600 I mean, the review found that there were more than a. 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:11.480 Dozen breaches of standard police operating procedure, and that included 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.560 some of the basic things that you'd expect to happen 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.200 at a crime scene like this. Well, we didn't know 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.560 if it was a crime scene at what had happened, 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.040 but it's treated like a crime scene at the beginning 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.960 when police turn up to a traffic accident like this. 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:29.560 There was no breath test taken of either Daniel Andrews 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:34.440 or Catherine Andrews. The crime scene was never cordoned off, 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:39.760 They didn't door knock neighboring residents. They allowed mister Andrews 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:45.520 to drive off in the vehicle despite it being unroadworthy 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:51.800 and being a critical piece of evidence to the entire scene. Clearly, 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:58.920 and more than that, they proceeded to it seems lie 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:03.680 in their initial police report that they submitted, So we 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:07.720 just saw an example of how they used Catherine Andrews's 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.840 maiden name. They also claimed that they had performed a 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:15.120 breath test, only to later admit that they hadn't done 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:21.040 that because police said that missus Andrews didn't seem to 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.320 stink of alcohol, so they didn't feel that they needed to. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:29.240 I mean, it was quite remarkable, and not only of course, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.120 did Victoria police. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.000 Come off very badly out of this review. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:38.200 I mean it accuses them of a huge cover up 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:43.680 because then opposition leader was involved. But Daniel Andrews and 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:47.680 his wife don't come off well either, of course, because 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:52.039 their version of events is found to have been improbable 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:57.479 and implausible, and in fact, doctor Shuey leaves it open 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:02.800 as to whether mister andrew was actually driving the vehicle himself, 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.200 which of course he has always denied. But police never 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:10.800 even asked Missus Andrews why she would have been driving 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.800 his car at the time, They didn't check the. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.880 Position of the driver's. 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:20.120 Seat, and a witness who spoke to them at the 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.800 scene told them she saw Missus Andrews sitting in the 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:25.599 passenger scene after the crash. 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.760 So there are still lots of questions. 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.599 That remain after this review has been handed down, but 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.359 I think it is time for the former premier to 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.560 answer questions to this family, who, to their credit, have 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.160 not been dissuaded by the fact that they're up against 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:46.600 a very powerful political family, but have continued to fight 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.320 for justice. 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:54.359 Yes, and the review you highlighted some of the police 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:58.600 breaches there the failure to conduct breath test and as 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.799 you said, claiming that they had done it when they hadn't, 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:07.160 and it also found that they did not follow procedure 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.160 in so many different respects. For example, they didn't call 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.520 in the highway patrol officers or the major collision unit, 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:17.720 which is required by policy. That's what you would expect 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.800 them to do, and the police conduct that They were 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:26.040 also concerns about an officer from the Rye Police station 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.280 jumping the call, taking charge of the car crash scene 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:34.119 two minutes after it had been allocated to another unit 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:38.600 that was closer to the accident site. The review details 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.560 how this senior constable stated that she was closer to 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:47.280 the Blagari Street where the teenager cyclist was struck, but 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:52.080 she was actually at Rye Police Station doing urgent correspondents 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.040 and then took six and a half minutes to leave 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.840 to go to the site. Doctor Raymond Suey found this 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.840 raises critical questions as to why the senior constable whose 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.960 name is redacted, wanted to take over the call and 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:11.640 cancel a unit already on route. What external communications via 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:15.760 telephone or radio with the senior constable occurred in the 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.760 time from the crash to being on route. Caroline, I'm 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:24.160 not suggesting there was any wrongdoing by the Andrews here. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:28.560 But for the sake of transparency, should there be immunity 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:32.800 offered to any police officers involved in a deliberate cover 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.440 up if one indeed did take place. 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.000 Well, look, in my opinion, no, I mean this. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:44.160 They appear, on the findings of this review to have 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:49.000 failed in their very basic duty of care to members 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.840 of the public and their duties to investigate a crime 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:54.480 properly and fully. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:56.280 You know, the crime scene. 0:08:56.240 --> 0:09:00.560 Was not caughting off as I mentioned before, and was 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:04.720 closed by about six pm the same day. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:05.280 Of the crash. 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:09.280 And that's despite all these questions hanging over it. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.880 I mean, in what case does that tend to happen? 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:19.280 And these people need to be properly questioned over how 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:20.080 this happened. 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:21.400 And it isn't just the. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.880 Police officers who were at the scene, it is the 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.600 people who were overseeing their work as well, who did 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.880 come unto criticism in this review too, because there were 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:36.280 other facets. To this reader, the family was never provided 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:40.839 a report with who were the other who the other 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.960 driver was in order to protect the Andrews family, and 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.960 that is a very basic duty that police have. 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.560 How did that not happen. 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:55.280 How did the superiors of those officers overlooking it take place? 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.800 There have been so many breaches. We've detailed some of them. 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.480 We could spend hours on things that were done that 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:09.280 shouldn't have been done. It is bewildering and it's worrying. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.319 Before you go, something a little bit lighter. Gender row 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:18.280 has erupted at Thirteenth Beach Golf Links on Victoria's Bellerine 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.280 Pinicsula after a man decided to dress as a woman 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:26.640 to protest the club's discounted rates for female members. Maybe 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.640 just wanted to get a discount. Hearing is or should 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:30.319 that be here? 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:31.960 She is here? 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:32.360 Is it? 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:33.000 Yes? 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.400 I'm identifying as a female now and I'm just about 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:41.800 to inquire about the new membership, do you. Unfortunately, the 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:46.800 stunt has backfired. He's been suspended and so as the 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.920 dude videoing the whole thing. I think it's a little 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.840 bit harsh. I think they're just making a point there 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.439 and doing it in an amusing manner. 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.439 Carrow, and don't we live in a time reader where 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.559 if you identify as a woman, you are a woman. 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:06.000 I thought that's the whole point. Clearly they've misgendered him 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.319 by refusing to accept that in a weakness skirt. He's 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.680 now a woman now, But obviously this was a prank 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:15.920 that he wanted to show up the discrimination I guess 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.760 that exists in this club because women are being charged 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.560 a discounted fee for memberships compared to men, and the 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:28.640 club saying it's doing it to address historical misrepresentation and 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.760 that they have to take a stand. Golf Australia says, 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:37.959 because what this frank did was to have a laugh 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.559 at basically the inclusion. 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.200 I don't know how it does that. It's in fact. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.959 It's having a go at exclusion because men are excluded 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.560 from this discountant right. Look, if I was a female golfer, 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.359 I probably wouldn't complain. But therein lies all the hypocrisy 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:53.640 of this. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:12:00.960 Caroline Marcus, thanks for your time this evening pleasure. Joining 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.600 me now is host of the US Report and co 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.640 host of Out Signers, James Morrow. James start with the 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:13.679 Australian Government's Misinformation and Information Bill. It's under attack from 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.720 all sorts of corners, Coalition MPs obviously, but Elon mask 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.160 and others who value the concept of free speech. This 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:25.720 bill would grant extraordinary powers to the bureaucrats at the 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:31.160 Australian Communication and Media Authority. They could impose massive fines 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:35.000 up to five percent of global revenue on social media 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:38.800 platforms if they fail to adequately crack down on what 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:44.360 these bureaucrats deem to be misinformation and disinformation. Is this 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.360 bill going to pass the Senate and what could it 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.959 mean for Australia if it passes in its present form? 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.360 Well, I really worry that it is going to pass 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.120 the Senate reader. I mean, the coalition has said that 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.000 they will always stand for free speech each but to 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.000 the extent that they've done so, you know, they've said, well, 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.360 the bill has problems, but it has issues, but they 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.640 haven't said the whole idea of this is a complete 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.600 mess and it needs to be thrown out the door. 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:13.800 And I think that's where we are right now. You know, 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:15.880 they're going to have a fight over this. They're going 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.560 to make some rhetorical comments towards free speech, but I 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.040 think the thing ultimately goes through because you know, it's 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.240 considered not cost of living and some of these other things. 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.679 But tell you it's deeply important here and one of 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:30.040 the important things here is that the government makes a 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.120 big deal of saying, oh, well, you know, it doesn't 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:36.400 target individual users, and what that means is actually what 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:40.920 they're doing is they're outsourcing censorship to the social media platforms. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.400 And we know they're already really really bad at that. 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:48.680 So if you want to see information throttled online, just 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.640 past this bill. It's already happening. But the other thing too, 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.480 is it creates two tiers of free speech in this country. 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.199 So if you're a journalist like oser, you're an academic, 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.120 or you know, you're in the government, you have free speech, 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.839 you're freer speech, you have more exceptions to this rule 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.360 than if you're everybody else. But we know that sources 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.560 like x wind up being actually very good with their 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:14.600 citizen journalists who aren't formal journalists, not worrying for NewsCorp 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.800 for the ABC able to find out lots of things 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.600 that are important. We get thrown on as misinformation reader. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.680 Yes, and we saw that particularly during the COVID era, 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.480 but at other points as well. And you've got these 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:37.680 leftist outlets media, Academia, Conversation, Publication, which our taxes support. 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:39.240 They argue that. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.800 This legislation doesn't go far enough, James. They want Sky 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:47.040 and used to also be sensored or suppressed because apparently 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.920 we question the merit of mad climate change policies. And 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.240 that's dangerous if if you question some of the measures 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.000 we're taking that are sending our bills through the roof 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.960 and making pension as not being able to afford to 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:07.440 hate their homes, that is dangerous disinformation and it really 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:11.200 is rather sad James. You've got people within the media, 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:15.720 certainly within academia, who are cheering for more censorship. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.680 Yeah, and you know it's weird because you know, part 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:20.880 of that is ideological, and part of that is just 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.320 that whole sort of funny shift that the left has 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.400 made in your lifetime, in my lifetime, you know, where 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.000 they went for being really anti censorship and you know, 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.680 pro free speech and quite honorably so, to being total 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.880 you know, you can't say that and speech needs to 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.560 be monitored and policed and enforced and all of that. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.880 I mean, that's part of it. And then also I 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:41.680 think you know, part of it for people like the 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.400 academics of the Conversation is it's about power, you know, 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.520 because their Marxists everything is about these sort of power 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.400 sorts of plays, and so for them it becomes like, well, 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.160 we need to make the proletariat, ordinary people less powerful 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.440 because the thing is things like X. It's been a 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.520 bit like the printing press was, you know, with Gutenberg, 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.480 and everyone's terrified of that, you know, And so hundreds 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.000 of years ago there were massive free speech fights and 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:09.280 places like England over you know, censorship and all of 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.600 this press licenses. There was the exact same arguments that 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.440 we're having today. You know, should anybody be allowed to say, published, print, 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.880 read whatever they want because there's a new technology that's 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.200 disrupting things, that's taking power away from the kings. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:28.120 Absolutely. Now let's talk about the Business Council of Australia. 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:34.080 They've slammed Labour's industrial relation laws, regulations, taxes, saying it's 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:39.640 strangling Australia's business community. The Business Council's Chief executive, Brand Black, 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:43.400 who represents some of the country's biggest businesses. We're talking 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:47.080 here about the big full Banks, West Farmers, Hancock, Prospecting, 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:52.120 BEHV quantas the list goes on. He said, many chief 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:56.280 executives feel we are losing our way. Jams, I've got 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.800 to say I'm glad these big businesses are finally focused 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:05.240 on on the bottom line instead of politics and social engineering. 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.600 How do you think the Albanese government is going to 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.360 receive mister Black's advice? 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.320 Well, I suspect the Prime Minister is quietly spewing about this. 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:16.959 I mean, you know, we all know that he has 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.040 a thin skin and does not take well to criticism. 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.000 So seeing brand Black's the reports of what he's going 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.800 to say tonight at the BCA dinner is one thing. 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.520 But you know, also, like you mentioned, a whole bunch 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:32.360 of companies there, and many of those companies, not all 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.840 I think we could exclude Hancock Prospecting from this, but 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:39.440 many others, you know, virtually clapped in labor right, and 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.919 you know, we're very happy to see THEMB come in 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.159 and we were all like, you know, guys, this is 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.119 a good idea, and you know, they all got on 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.840 board with the voice. So many as X one hundred companies, 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.159 Quantus did up its planes, blah blah blah, all of this, 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:56.160 you know, and it's like, guys, you know, these people 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.200 aren't your friends. They tell you who they are. They're 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.040 very open about it, and so it's just a basic 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:06.879 that's taken two years an ir bill, reregulation of the economy, 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.360 and at a serious downturn in the economy for them 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.439 to say, you know, many, really we weren't on the 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:15.800 right track. Here was this one. 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:18.760 This is it. 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.399 There's been this switch. Wasn't that long ago that you 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:27.040 considered big businesses would be siding with the Conservatives if 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.320 they were going to have any sort of political stance. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.840 But that has not been the experience, and the last 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:35.399 few elections, and certainly the last one, they seem to 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:41.160 be lockstep with labor and you know, sillier decisions, sillier outcomes. 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.400 Maybe they'll learn their lesson. We'll see. Now let's turn 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.919 to the US. The focus has been placed on the 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.800 issue of unchecked immigration. We're talking legal and illegal here, 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.359 and also the issue of assimilation and values. It was 0:18:56.400 --> 0:19:01.280 all sparked by Donald Trump's now infamous about cats and 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:05.920 dogs being eaten in Springfield, Ohio. Tell me about the 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:11.400 fallout of those comments and the debate it's generated. It's 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.240 gone in a very different direction than I think many 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.000 media commentators expected. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.119 Well, I mean, that's the thing, because this is the 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.040 thing about the cats and dogs thing. You know, they're 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.359 eating the cats, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.639 pets of the people who live there. We've all heard 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:30.040 this line so many times from Donald Trump at the debate, 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:31.960 and of course the media lost them by oh, you know, 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:37.120 that's fake news. But it's the important thing about this is, though, 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.679 is that Donald Trump has been trying to talk to 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.600 all Americans about the real crisis at the southern border. 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.760 Ten million people plus coming in illegally through that southern 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:52.399 border since the Biden administration has been in power. You know, 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.359 them being dumped all over the country and towns that 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.280 cannot handle that sort of influx, and you know a 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.440 lot of crime and other problems going along with it. 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.040 And yet you know, that's really been an issue for 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.360 core believers. But this issue about the cats and dogs, 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.280 you know, because it's almost so goofy, right, like it 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.920 gives people space to talk about it. Look at the 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.040 numbers to go, hay, why is a town of sixty 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:18.080 thousand like Springfield, Ohio getting twenty thousand Haitians as many 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.520 as twenty thousand hations. That doesn't seem right to me. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.240 And so like before it was all you know, sort 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:25.080 of stuff like well, you know, we're talking about the 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.480 latest person who was murdered in some horrible, violent way, 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:30.480 and people don't want to hear about it. They don't 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.879 want to talk about it. They know intellectually that it's happening, 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:34.280 but like, they don't want talk about it. But this 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.879 is sort of so goofy and weird and memeable that 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.679 suddenly it creates a whole new frame in which to 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.560 discuss migration. And I think, you know, on that level, 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:45.040 I think it's been a huge win for Trump. 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:51.160 Now, a lot has been said about these bomb threats 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:55.720 that happened in Springfield, Ohio, and the Republicans, particularly Trump 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:59.400 and Vance, are being blind. But the governor of Ohio 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.840 has real ill today that these bomb threats have all 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.919 been hoaxes, all of them, and many of these threats 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:11.520 are coming from overseas, not the narrative that media has 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:12.120 been pushing. 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:12.640 James. 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.040 Yeah, no, And of course, you know again it's more 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.919 and more fake news because the bomb threat story allowed 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.160 the media to do two things. Number one, portray Trump 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:26.359 is dangerous, you know, his dangerous rhetoric is causing danger 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.480 and danger and danger. And then on the other hand, 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:30.600 it was also allowing them to say, well, the locals 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:32.959 in Springfield are actually just a bunch of racist roobs 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:36.040 who deserve everything they have coming to them, you know. 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.720 And of course now Mike DeWine, the governor of Ohio, 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:40.760 has said, you know, no, well, actually they're all they're 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:44.280 all overseas hoaxes, and you know, it just all seems 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:47.080 so kind of JUSTI smollett to me now at this 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.639 point where they're just trying to, you know, come up 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:51.840 with you know, as we always say, read on outsiders, 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.280 you do the market for hate crimes. They're so rare 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:56.600 that people are making them up. 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:03.240 There is the America is so inherently racist? Why there's 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:10.000 so many race crime hoaxes? Enough genuine ones to satisfy everybody. 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.960 Now I want to ask you about racism a little 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:19.240 bit more because political commentator Matt Walsh has released another documentary. 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:22.160 This one is called Am I Racist? The last one 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.880 was all about the trans issue, and it was hilarious. 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:27.439 It did it remarkably well. 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:29.200 This one seems. 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.600 To be doing even better business at the box office. 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:35.040 Audiences love it too. It's got a ninety nine percent 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:40.439 audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, which is astonishing. Let's have 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:42.639 a quick look at a clip of it. 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:45.080 The entire system has to burn. And I'm not going 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:46.720 to even use save this country. This country is not 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:48.560 worth siving. This country is a piece of. 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:51.439 Oh so. 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:57.040 So wait folks, waite. 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:57.920 Supremacy, wait woman, wait boy? 0:22:58.040 --> 0:22:58.200 Wait? 0:22:58.400 --> 0:22:59.439 Entitlements centering? 0:22:59.520 --> 0:22:59.720 Wit? 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:01.679 Is there a black person around here? 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:02.920 Black person right here? 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:04.080 Does he not exist? 0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:05.000 But James? 0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:09.720 Critics are refusing to review this film, despite the fact 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:12.840 it's in the top five films in the country and 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:17.000 it's got this massive audience score. Matt Walsh invited critics 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:20.600 from Variety Magazine, The New Yorker, the New York Times, 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:25.000 Indie Wire. They were all invited to a preview to 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:27.679 see this and say what they like. They can give 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:29.879 it a zero score, but none of them want to 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.119 even acknowledge it exists. 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:34.359 Well, I think they're probably afraid that they're going to 0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:36.959 like it, you know, I mean, wouldn't that be horrible 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:39.320 and uncomfortable with if there was it? Oh wow, that 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.320