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Speaker 3: up tonight a massive program. Joining me will be James Morrow,
Speaker 3: Josh Hammer and Caroline Marcus, and later in the hour
Speaker 3: Stephanie Bastian will have the latest on the John Passeuto
Speaker 3: Deeming child. Of course, we never forget left He's losing
Speaker 3: it tonight when Wolf stars She's the wife of Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris's VP pick Tim Walls. Two days and we are
Speaker 3: turned the Bay.
Speaker 4: By bye, Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Let's start with the astonishing front page splash from Michael
Speaker 3: Warner in today's Harold Son detailing the bomb show claims
Speaker 3: from a review of the Daniel and Catherine Andrews car crash,
Speaker 3: which has concluded that Victoria police engaged in an overt
Speaker 3: cover up to avoid implicating a political figure in a
Speaker 3: life threatening incident. This explosive thirty six page assessment by
Speaker 3: former police assistant commissioner asserts that the Andrews family suv
Speaker 3: was traveling at speed and on the wrong side of
Speaker 3: the road when it struck teenage cyclist Ryan Muhlman in
Speaker 3: blen Gowery Back in January seven, two thousand and thirteen.
Speaker 3: Now we have heard differing accounts of what happened from
Speaker 3: those who were there. Dan and Catherine Andrews insisted that
Speaker 3: they came to a complete stop and turn right from
Speaker 3: a stationery position just moments before being t boned by
Speaker 3: the cyclist. T Boned is the expression that was used,
Speaker 3: but the pictures of the car showed something entirely different.
Speaker 3: And now the expert review conducted by the state's former
Speaker 3: Assistant Commissioner for Traffic and Operationations, doctor Raymond Suey, it's
Speaker 3: concluded the police investigation, which supported the Andrews version of
Speaker 3: events was deeply flawed, unfounded, and contrary to the available evidence.
Speaker 3: Dtor Sheuey writes the version as provided by Catherine and
Speaker 3: Daniel Andrews is considered improbable and implausible. The propagation of
Speaker 3: a lie and striking deception, the report claims, began when
Speaker 3: the driver's name was recorded as Katherine Louise Kessick, which
Speaker 3: is missus Andrews made a name in a traffic incident
Speaker 3: system reports submitted by police in the hours after the crash.
Speaker 3: And we'll have more on the police breaches a little
Speaker 3: later now, Doctor Schuey's review was commissioned by mister Meulman's
Speaker 3: lawyers as part of an ongoing Supreme Court damages proceedings
Speaker 3: into the crash. I spoke to Ryan's father, Peter Meulman
Speaker 3: back in June, and here was clear that the family
Speaker 3: will not stop seeking justice for Ryan.
Speaker 5: We're hoping to get justice for Ryan from this. It's
Speaker 5: just been such a long road for us. So we'd
Speaker 5: really like to get closure on the case. If you've
Speaker 5: got nothing to hide, you'd be transparent about all of
Speaker 5: those records. So just want that clarity and that closure
Speaker 5: and that justice.
Speaker 3: Joining me now, Sky you Senior reporter Caroline Marcus. Caroline,
Speaker 3: this is an explosive story. Michael Warner has been doggedly
Speaker 3: pursuing it while the bulk of the Victorian media looks
Speaker 3: the other way. The revelations the claims here are deeply worrying.
Speaker 3: What do you make of what you've read today?
Speaker 6: Well, it has been extraordinary, Brito, because this review has
Speaker 6: been unequivocally scathing of Victoria Police and it's handling of
Speaker 6: this crash.
Speaker 7: I mean, the review found that there were more than a.
Speaker 6: Dozen breaches of standard police operating procedure, and that included
Speaker 6: some of the basic things that you'd expect to happen
Speaker 6: at a crime scene like this. Well, we didn't know
Speaker 6: if it was a crime scene at what had happened,
Speaker 6: but it's treated like a crime scene at the beginning
Speaker 6: when police turn up to a traffic accident like this.
Speaker 6: There was no breath test taken of either Daniel Andrews
Speaker 6: or Catherine Andrews. The crime scene was never cordoned off,
Speaker 6: They didn't door knock neighboring residents. They allowed mister Andrews
Speaker 6: to drive off in the vehicle despite it being unroadworthy
Speaker 6: and being a critical piece of evidence to the entire scene. Clearly,
Speaker 6: and more than that, they proceeded to it seems lie
Speaker 6: in their initial police report that they submitted, So we
Speaker 6: just saw an example of how they used Catherine Andrews's
Speaker 6: maiden name. They also claimed that they had performed a
Speaker 6: breath test, only to later admit that they hadn't done
Speaker 6: that because police said that missus Andrews didn't seem to
Speaker 6: stink of alcohol, so they didn't feel that they needed to.
Speaker 6: I mean, it was quite remarkable, and not only of course,
Speaker 6: did Victoria police.
Speaker 7: Come off very badly out of this review.
Speaker 6: I mean it accuses them of a huge cover up
Speaker 6: because then opposition leader was involved. But Daniel Andrews and
Speaker 6: his wife don't come off well either, of course, because
Speaker 6: their version of events is found to have been improbable
Speaker 6: and implausible, and in fact, doctor Shuey leaves it open
Speaker 6: as to whether mister andrew was actually driving the vehicle himself,
Speaker 6: which of course he has always denied. But police never
Speaker 6: even asked Missus Andrews why she would have been driving
Speaker 6: his car at the time, They didn't check the.
Speaker 7: Position of the driver's.
Speaker 6: Seat, and a witness who spoke to them at the
Speaker 6: scene told them she saw Missus Andrews sitting in the
Speaker 6: passenger scene after the crash.
Speaker 7: So there are still lots of questions.
Speaker 6: That remain after this review has been handed down, but
Speaker 6: I think it is time for the former premier to
Speaker 6: answer questions to this family, who, to their credit, have
Speaker 6: not been dissuaded by the fact that they're up against
Speaker 6: a very powerful political family, but have continued to fight
Speaker 6: for justice.
Speaker 3: Yes, and the review you highlighted some of the police
Speaker 3: breaches there the failure to conduct breath test and as
Speaker 3: you said, claiming that they had done it when they hadn't,
Speaker 3: and it also found that they did not follow procedure
Speaker 3: in so many different respects. For example, they didn't call
Speaker 3: in the highway patrol officers or the major collision unit,
Speaker 3: which is required by policy. That's what you would expect
Speaker 3: them to do, and the police conduct that They were
Speaker 3: also concerns about an officer from the Rye Police station
Speaker 3: jumping the call, taking charge of the car crash scene
Speaker 3: two minutes after it had been allocated to another unit
Speaker 3: that was closer to the accident site. The review details
Speaker 3: how this senior constable stated that she was closer to
Speaker 3: the Blagari Street where the teenager cyclist was struck, but
Speaker 3: she was actually at Rye Police Station doing urgent correspondents
Speaker 3: and then took six and a half minutes to leave
Speaker 3: to go to the site. Doctor Raymond Suey found this
Speaker 3: raises critical questions as to why the senior constable whose
Speaker 3: name is redacted, wanted to take over the call and
Speaker 3: cancel a unit already on route. What external communications via
Speaker 3: telephone or radio with the senior constable occurred in the
Speaker 3: time from the crash to being on route. Caroline, I'm
Speaker 3: not suggesting there was any wrongdoing by the Andrews here.
Speaker 3: But for the sake of transparency, should there be immunity
Speaker 3: offered to any police officers involved in a deliberate cover
Speaker 3: up if one indeed did take place.
Speaker 7: Well, look, in my opinion, no, I mean this.
Speaker 6: They appear, on the findings of this review to have
Speaker 6: failed in their very basic duty of care to members
Speaker 6: of the public and their duties to investigate a crime
Speaker 6: properly and fully.
Speaker 7: You know, the crime scene.
Speaker 6: Was not caughting off as I mentioned before, and was
Speaker 6: closed by about six pm the same day.
Speaker 7: Of the crash.
Speaker 6: And that's despite all these questions hanging over it.
Speaker 7: I mean, in what case does that tend to happen?
Speaker 6: And these people need to be properly questioned over how
Speaker 6: this happened.
Speaker 7: And it isn't just the.
Speaker 6: Police officers who were at the scene, it is the
Speaker 6: people who were overseeing their work as well, who did
Speaker 6: come unto criticism in this review too, because there were
Speaker 6: other facets. To this reader, the family was never provided
Speaker 6: a report with who were the other who the other
Speaker 6: driver was in order to protect the Andrews family, and
Speaker 6: that is a very basic duty that police have.
Speaker 7: How did that not happen.
Speaker 6: How did the superiors of those officers overlooking it take place?
Speaker 3: There have been so many breaches. We've detailed some of them.
Speaker 3: We could spend hours on things that were done that
Speaker 3: shouldn't have been done. It is bewildering and it's worrying.
Speaker 3: Before you go, something a little bit lighter. Gender row
Speaker 3: has erupted at Thirteenth Beach Golf Links on Victoria's Bellerine
Speaker 3: Pinicsula after a man decided to dress as a woman
Speaker 3: to protest the club's discounted rates for female members. Maybe
Speaker 3: just wanted to get a discount. Hearing is or should
Speaker 3: that be here?
Speaker 8: She is here?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: I'm identifying as a female now and I'm just about
Speaker 3: to inquire about the new membership, do you. Unfortunately, the
Speaker 3: stunt has backfired. He's been suspended and so as the
Speaker 3: dude videoing the whole thing. I think it's a little
Speaker 3: bit harsh. I think they're just making a point there
Speaker 3: and doing it in an amusing manner.
Speaker 6: Carrow, and don't we live in a time reader where
Speaker 6: if you identify as a woman, you are a woman.
Speaker 6: I thought that's the whole point. Clearly they've misgendered him
Speaker 6: by refusing to accept that in a weakness skirt. He's
Speaker 6: now a woman now, But obviously this was a prank
Speaker 6: that he wanted to show up the discrimination I guess
Speaker 6: that exists in this club because women are being charged
Speaker 6: a discounted fee for memberships compared to men, and the
Speaker 6: club saying it's doing it to address historical misrepresentation and
Speaker 6: that they have to take a stand. Golf Australia says,
Speaker 6: because what this frank did was to have a laugh
Speaker 6: at basically the inclusion.
Speaker 7: I don't know how it does that. It's in fact.
Speaker 6: It's having a go at exclusion because men are excluded
Speaker 6: from this discountant right. Look, if I was a female golfer,
Speaker 6: I probably wouldn't complain. But therein lies all the hypocrisy
Speaker 6: of this.
Speaker 3: Caroline Marcus, thanks for your time this evening pleasure. Joining
Speaker 3: me now is host of the US Report and co
Speaker 3: host of Out Signers, James Morrow. James start with the
Speaker 3: Australian Government's Misinformation and Information Bill. It's under attack from
Speaker 3: all sorts of corners, Coalition MPs obviously, but Elon mask
Speaker 3: and others who value the concept of free speech. This
Speaker 3: bill would grant extraordinary powers to the bureaucrats at the
Speaker 3: Australian Communication and Media Authority. They could impose massive fines
Speaker 3: up to five percent of global revenue on social media
Speaker 3: platforms if they fail to adequately crack down on what
Speaker 3: these bureaucrats deem to be misinformation and disinformation. Is this
Speaker 3: bill going to pass the Senate and what could it
Speaker 3: mean for Australia if it passes in its present form?
Speaker 2: Well, I really worry that it is going to pass
Speaker 2: the Senate reader. I mean, the coalition has said that
Speaker 2: they will always stand for free speech each but to
Speaker 2: the extent that they've done so, you know, they've said, well,
Speaker 2: the bill has problems, but it has issues, but they
Speaker 2: haven't said the whole idea of this is a complete
Speaker 2: mess and it needs to be thrown out the door.
Speaker 2: And I think that's where we are right now. You know,
Speaker 2: they're going to have a fight over this. They're going
Speaker 2: to make some rhetorical comments towards free speech, but I
Speaker 2: think the thing ultimately goes through because you know, it's
Speaker 2: considered not cost of living and some of these other things.
Speaker 2: But tell you it's deeply important here and one of
Speaker 2: the important things here is that the government makes a
Speaker 2: big deal of saying, oh, well, you know, it doesn't
Speaker 2: target individual users, and what that means is actually what
Speaker 2: they're doing is they're outsourcing censorship to the social media platforms.
Speaker 2: And we know they're already really really bad at that.
Speaker 2: So if you want to see information throttled online, just
Speaker 2: past this bill. It's already happening. But the other thing too,
Speaker 2: is it creates two tiers of free speech in this country.
Speaker 2: So if you're a journalist like oser, you're an academic,
Speaker 2: or you know, you're in the government, you have free speech,
Speaker 2: you're freer speech, you have more exceptions to this rule
Speaker 2: than if you're everybody else. But we know that sources
Speaker 2: like x wind up being actually very good with their
Speaker 2: citizen journalists who aren't formal journalists, not worrying for NewsCorp
Speaker 2: for the ABC able to find out lots of things
Speaker 2: that are important. We get thrown on as misinformation reader.
Speaker 3: Yes, and we saw that particularly during the COVID era,
Speaker 3: but at other points as well. And you've got these
Speaker 3: leftist outlets media, Academia, Conversation, Publication, which our taxes support.
Speaker 7: They argue that.
Speaker 3: This legislation doesn't go far enough, James. They want Sky
Speaker 3: and used to also be sensored or suppressed because apparently
Speaker 3: we question the merit of mad climate change policies. And
Speaker 3: that's dangerous if if you question some of the measures
Speaker 3: we're taking that are sending our bills through the roof
Speaker 3: and making pension as not being able to afford to
Speaker 3: hate their homes, that is dangerous disinformation and it really
Speaker 3: is rather sad James. You've got people within the media,
Speaker 3: certainly within academia, who are cheering for more censorship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know it's weird because you know, part
Speaker 2: of that is ideological, and part of that is just
Speaker 2: that whole sort of funny shift that the left has
Speaker 2: made in your lifetime, in my lifetime, you know, where
Speaker 2: they went for being really anti censorship and you know,
Speaker 2: pro free speech and quite honorably so, to being total
Speaker 2: you know, you can't say that and speech needs to
Speaker 2: be monitored and policed and enforced and all of that.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's part of it. And then also I
Speaker 2: think you know, part of it for people like the
Speaker 2: academics of the Conversation is it's about power, you know,
Speaker 2: because their Marxists everything is about these sort of power
Speaker 2: sorts of plays, and so for them it becomes like, well,
Speaker 2: we need to make the proletariat, ordinary people less powerful
Speaker 2: because the thing is things like X. It's been a
Speaker 2: bit like the printing press was, you know, with Gutenberg,
Speaker 2: and everyone's terrified of that, you know, And so hundreds
Speaker 2: of years ago there were massive free speech fights and
Speaker 2: places like England over you know, censorship and all of
Speaker 2: this press licenses. There was the exact same arguments that
Speaker 2: we're having today. You know, should anybody be allowed to say, published, print,
Speaker 2: read whatever they want because there's a new technology that's
Speaker 2: disrupting things, that's taking power away from the kings.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Now let's talk about the Business Council of Australia.
Speaker 3: They've slammed Labour's industrial relation laws, regulations, taxes, saying it's
Speaker 3: strangling Australia's business community. The Business Council's Chief executive, Brand Black,
Speaker 3: who represents some of the country's biggest businesses. We're talking
Speaker 3: here about the big full Banks, West Farmers, Hancock, Prospecting,
Speaker 3: BEHV quantas the list goes on. He said, many chief
Speaker 3: executives feel we are losing our way. Jams, I've got
Speaker 3: to say I'm glad these big businesses are finally focused
Speaker 3: on on the bottom line instead of politics and social engineering.
Speaker 3: How do you think the Albanese government is going to
Speaker 3: receive mister Black's advice?
Speaker 2: Well, I suspect the Prime Minister is quietly spewing about this.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we all know that he has
Speaker 2: a thin skin and does not take well to criticism.
Speaker 2: So seeing brand Black's the reports of what he's going
Speaker 2: to say tonight at the BCA dinner is one thing.
Speaker 2: But you know, also, like you mentioned, a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of companies there, and many of those companies, not all
Speaker 2: I think we could exclude Hancock Prospecting from this, but
Speaker 2: many others, you know, virtually clapped in labor right, and
Speaker 2: you know, we're very happy to see THEMB come in
Speaker 2: and we were all like, you know, guys, this is
Speaker 2: a good idea, and you know, they all got on
Speaker 2: board with the voice. So many as X one hundred companies,
Speaker 2: Quantus did up its planes, blah blah blah, all of this,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's like, guys, you know, these people
Speaker 2: aren't your friends. They tell you who they are. They're
Speaker 2: very open about it, and so it's just a basic
Speaker 2: that's taken two years an ir bill, reregulation of the economy,
Speaker 2: and at a serious downturn in the economy for them
Speaker 2: to say, you know, many, really we weren't on the
Speaker 2: right track. Here was this one.
Speaker 7: This is it.
Speaker 3: There's been this switch. Wasn't that long ago that you
Speaker 3: considered big businesses would be siding with the Conservatives if
Speaker 3: they were going to have any sort of political stance.
Speaker 3: But that has not been the experience, and the last
Speaker 3: few elections, and certainly the last one, they seem to
Speaker 3: be lockstep with labor and you know, sillier decisions, sillier outcomes.
Speaker 3: Maybe they'll learn their lesson. We'll see. Now let's turn
Speaker 3: to the US. The focus has been placed on the
Speaker 3: issue of unchecked immigration. We're talking legal and illegal here,
Speaker 3: and also the issue of assimilation and values. It was
Speaker 3: all sparked by Donald Trump's now infamous about cats and
Speaker 3: dogs being eaten in Springfield, Ohio. Tell me about the
Speaker 3: fallout of those comments and the debate it's generated. It's
Speaker 3: gone in a very different direction than I think many
Speaker 3: media commentators expected.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's the thing, because this is the
Speaker 2: thing about the cats and dogs thing. You know, they're
Speaker 2: eating the cats, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the
Speaker 2: pets of the people who live there. We've all heard
Speaker 2: this line so many times from Donald Trump at the debate,
Speaker 2: and of course the media lost them by oh, you know,
Speaker 2: that's fake news. But it's the important thing about this is, though,
Speaker 2: is that Donald Trump has been trying to talk to
Speaker 2: all Americans about the real crisis at the southern border.
Speaker 2: Ten million people plus coming in illegally through that southern
Speaker 2: border since the Biden administration has been in power. You know,
Speaker 2: them being dumped all over the country and towns that
Speaker 2: cannot handle that sort of influx, and you know a
Speaker 2: lot of crime and other problems going along with it.
Speaker 2: And yet you know, that's really been an issue for
Speaker 2: core believers. But this issue about the cats and dogs,
Speaker 2: you know, because it's almost so goofy, right, like it
Speaker 2: gives people space to talk about it. Look at the
Speaker 2: numbers to go, hay, why is a town of sixty
Speaker 2: thousand like Springfield, Ohio getting twenty thousand Haitians as many
Speaker 2: as twenty thousand hations. That doesn't seem right to me.
Speaker 2: And so like before it was all you know, sort
Speaker 2: of stuff like well, you know, we're talking about the
Speaker 2: latest person who was murdered in some horrible, violent way,
Speaker 2: and people don't want to hear about it. They don't
Speaker 2: want to talk about it. They know intellectually that it's happening,
Speaker 2: but like, they don't want talk about it. But this
Speaker 2: is sort of so goofy and weird and memeable that
Speaker 2: suddenly it creates a whole new frame in which to
Speaker 2: discuss migration. And I think, you know, on that level,
Speaker 2: I think it's been a huge win for Trump.
Speaker 3: Now, a lot has been said about these bomb threats
Speaker 3: that happened in Springfield, Ohio, and the Republicans, particularly Trump
Speaker 3: and Vance, are being blind. But the governor of Ohio
Speaker 3: has real ill today that these bomb threats have all
Speaker 3: been hoaxes, all of them, and many of these threats
Speaker 3: are coming from overseas, not the narrative that media has
Speaker 3: been pushing.
Speaker 5: James.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, And of course, you know again it's more
Speaker 2: and more fake news because the bomb threat story allowed
Speaker 2: the media to do two things. Number one, portray Trump
Speaker 2: is dangerous, you know, his dangerous rhetoric is causing danger
Speaker 2: and danger and danger. And then on the other hand,
Speaker 2: it was also allowing them to say, well, the locals
Speaker 2: in Springfield are actually just a bunch of racist roobs
Speaker 2: who deserve everything they have coming to them, you know.
Speaker 2: And of course now Mike DeWine, the governor of Ohio,
Speaker 2: has said, you know, no, well, actually they're all they're
Speaker 2: all overseas hoaxes, and you know, it just all seems
Speaker 2: so kind of JUSTI smollett to me now at this
Speaker 2: point where they're just trying to, you know, come up
Speaker 2: with you know, as we always say, read on outsiders,
Speaker 2: you do the market for hate crimes. They're so rare
Speaker 2: that people are making them up.
Speaker 3: There is the America is so inherently racist? Why there's
Speaker 3: so many race crime hoaxes? Enough genuine ones to satisfy everybody.
Speaker 3: Now I want to ask you about racism a little
Speaker 3: bit more because political commentator Matt Walsh has released another documentary.
Speaker 3: This one is called Am I Racist? The last one
Speaker 3: was all about the trans issue, and it was hilarious.
Speaker 3: It did it remarkably well.
Speaker 7: This one seems.
Speaker 3: To be doing even better business at the box office.
Speaker 3: Audiences love it too. It's got a ninety nine percent
Speaker 3: audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, which is astonishing. Let's have
Speaker 3: a quick look at a clip of it.
Speaker 7: The entire system has to burn. And I'm not going
Speaker 7: to even use save this country. This country is not
Speaker 7: worth siving. This country is a piece of.
Speaker 1: Oh so.
Speaker 4: So wait folks, waite.
Speaker 7: Supremacy, wait woman, wait boy?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 7: Entitlements centering?
Speaker 3: Wit?
Speaker 9: Is there a black person around here?
Speaker 7: Black person right here?
Speaker 1: Does he not exist?
Speaker 7: But James?
Speaker 3: Critics are refusing to review this film, despite the fact
Speaker 3: it's in the top five films in the country and
Speaker 3: it's got this massive audience score. Matt Walsh invited critics
Speaker 3: from Variety Magazine, The New Yorker, the New York Times,
Speaker 3: Indie Wire. They were all invited to a preview to
Speaker 3: see this and say what they like. They can give
Speaker 3: it a zero score, but none of them want to
Speaker 3: even acknowledge it exists.
Speaker 2: Well, I think they're probably afraid that they're going to
Speaker 2: like it, you know, I mean, wouldn't that be horrible
Speaker 2: and uncomfortable with if there was it? Oh wow, that
Speaker 2: was a pretty good film. I really got to tell
Speaker 2: everybody nowhere to can't tell her anybody that about Walsh.
Speaker 2: Film was good. Oh you know, we see what's going
Speaker 2: on here, And the problem is these people like from Variety,
Speaker 2: you know, need are from old school corporate media outlets
Speaker 2: in the US, you know, and a lot of them
Speaker 2: have found their relevance declining. And what they're doing now
Speaker 2: is they're just you know, they're fighting a rearguard action
Speaker 2: against change, and it's not going to work for them because,
Speaker 2: you know, the more they try and ignore where things
Speaker 2: are and what the sort of the leading edge of
Speaker 2: film is, including if it's a documentary by about watsh
Speaker 2: it's incredibly popular and good, they're just going to serve
Speaker 2: to further, you know, make themselves irrelevant and just be
Speaker 2: you know, old critics yelling at clouds.
Speaker 3: You're so right, and there is such a demand and
Speaker 3: the success of this film shows and others we've seen
Speaker 3: in the last couple of years that conservatives want content
Speaker 3: that isn't insulting to them and their values, and it
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be a documentary, can be fictional, but
Speaker 3: so much of what Hollywood is churning out has got
Speaker 3: this political edge to it that is insulting to about
Speaker 3: half the country, and that half of the country spends
Speaker 3: money at the cinemas just like the like the lefties do.
Speaker 3: James Morrow, thank you so much for your time this evening.
Speaker 3: Thanks reader still to come and Lefties Losing It and
Speaker 3: Josh with a new report detailing the deep failings of
Speaker 3: the Secret Service. You're watching the Reader Panny Show, and
Speaker 3: now it's time for Lefty's losing head. Let's check in
Speaker 3: with Gwen Walls, the wife of Kamala Harris's VP pick,
Speaker 3: Tim Walls. She seems nice and not at all deranged.
Speaker 7: You just showed me this.
Speaker 5: Turn the page, right, turn the page, and you know
Speaker 5: what else? That looks like? Bye bye, bye.
Speaker 7: Bye Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: We are turning the bage.
Speaker 3: Two days and we are.
Speaker 1: Turning the bay Didny day, Bye bye Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Okay, I would have thought so. Turning the page would
Speaker 3: involve getting rid of the current lot in power. And
Speaker 3: that's the Democrats last I checked. But anyway, talking about Democrats,
Speaker 3: she's back. Hillary is back with a wackadoodle MSNBC host
Speaker 3: Rachel Maddow and Hillary reckons that the media is too
Speaker 3: soft on Donald Trump. And note this interview is after
Speaker 3: the second assassination attempt on Trump's life, inspired by the
Speaker 3: Dems labeling him a threat to democracy? So why don't
Speaker 3: we do that some more?
Speaker 9: And I don't understand why it's so difficult for the
Speaker 9: press to have a consistent narrative about how dangerous Trump is.
Speaker 9: You know, the late great journalist Terry Evans, you know,
Speaker 9: one time said that, you know, journalists should, you know,
Speaker 9: really try to achieve objectivity, And by that he said,
Speaker 9: I mean they should cover the object. Well, the object
Speaker 9: in this case is Donald Trump, his demagogery, his danger
Speaker 9: to our country and the world, and stick with.
Speaker 3: It, stick with it until when they successfully have him assassinated.
Speaker 3: And of course Madou did not call out Hillary's ugly,
Speaker 3: inflammatory ritrid She just encouraged it.
Speaker 1: He's still being taught, especially by the media, that the
Speaker 1: more offensive he is, the more he can dominate the
Speaker 1: media space entirely. And I feel like you've you've been
Speaker 1: a good diagnoser of that.
Speaker 3: Now to a lefty who claims the assassination attempts against
Speaker 3: Donald Trump are no big.
Speaker 4: Deal, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: But isn't hearing pewpew fire in the red state of
Speaker 1: Florida as common as hearing bird saying I'm sure it
Speaker 1: wasn't personal. Please don't flatter yourself.
Speaker 3: Charming?
Speaker 7: Charming?
Speaker 3: And here we have a man who claims he was
Speaker 3: misgendered at the pharmacy, apparently calling him sir. Damagees masculinity.
Speaker 3: See if you can understand what this is about.
Speaker 8: So I got surved today at the pharmacy. And I'm
Speaker 8: not saying men can't look like this, because please go
Speaker 8: off kings, But like, I'm not doing damage to masculinity.
Speaker 8: I think y'all are when you serve me, when you
Speaker 8: call me a man, right like I'm not a man.
Speaker 8: Don't consider me for the pool of men.
Speaker 3: Done, dude, whatever you want. And here is Kamala Harris's stepdaughter,
Speaker 3: who is a far left activist and a model. She
Speaker 3: is a professional model. She posted this to Instagram last week.
Speaker 3: It's a collaboration with fashion brand Tory Bircher. They produce
Speaker 3: hideously ugly shoes, among other things.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, are you lm huh yeah? What song
Speaker 7: are you listening to right now?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 7: I'm wearing a Tory Birch top, a Tory Birch skirt.
Speaker 1: Tory Birch shield, loafers, and obviously the Tory Birch care bag.
Speaker 7: Thanks have a good one.
Speaker 3: What learning more about the second Trump assassination attempt and
Speaker 3: the accused gunman, Ryan Wesley Routh and what inspired the
Speaker 3: fifty eight year old to target Trump. The suspect has
Speaker 3: a history of posting anti Trump rhetoric, much of admirroring
Speaker 3: Democrat talking points. The New York Post reports Rawth has
Speaker 3: repeatedly railed against Trump on social media and posted about
Speaker 3: his alleged threats to democracy and yes, that echoes precisely
Speaker 3: what we hear from Democrats, including Vice President Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: and President Joe Biden. The suspect wrote, democracy is on
Speaker 3: the ballot and we cannot lose sound familiar word for
Speaker 3: word what we hear from Democrat leadership. He also posted,
Speaker 3: we cannot afford to fail. The world is counting on
Speaker 3: us to show the way. And after the July assassination
Speaker 3: attempt at a Trump rally in Pennsylvania, he posted this
Speaker 3: to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. He wrote, you should
Speaker 3: visit the victims in the hospital of the Trump rally
Speaker 3: victims and attend the funeral of the firemen that died.
Speaker 3: Trump certainly never would show the world what real leaders do.
Speaker 3: Let's cross now to Florida to speak to Newsweek's Senior
Speaker 3: editor at Large and Senior Council for the article three
Speaker 3: project Josh Hammer, Josh, what more can you tell us
Speaker 3: about the suspect and how you managed to come so
Speaker 3: close to President Trump with an AK forty seven style rifle?
Speaker 4: Read Unfortunately, I do not have any good answers to
Speaker 4: the second question. I mean, I mean what I can say,
Speaker 4: which I can conclude pretty close to us Palm Beach.
Speaker 4: I live about an hour from there, and I'm sure
Speaker 4: that you can conclude as well. Living halfway around the world.
Speaker 4: The Secret Service clearly has not learned any of the
Speaker 4: relevant lessons whatsoever from the near mess the near assassination
Speaker 4: of Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania in July thirteen. Now,
Speaker 4: I saw some people saying that Donald Trump playing a
Speaker 4: round of golf at Trump International West Palm Beach was
Speaker 4: an off the record, off the books trip. I'm sorry
Speaker 4: that is ludicrous. It doesn't matter whether it was on
Speaker 4: the record or off the record. Donald Trump spends the
Speaker 4: vast majority of his time in Palm Beach, Florida, and
Speaker 4: when he's not in mar A Lago, he's probably and
Speaker 4: usually golfing at that very golf club. It's ten minutes
Speaker 4: from mar Lago. It's his home club. It is in
Speaker 4: x freaking excusable for this to have possibly happened there.
Speaker 4: As far as the nature of the suspect himself, I
Speaker 4: think the social media track record unfortunately speaks for itself.
Speaker 4: You know, this was actually a pretty known guy. The
Speaker 4: New York Times and Semaphore, two very well known outlets
Speaker 4: in the US, both interviewed him. In fact, last year
Speaker 4: he was on fed's radar because he was traveling to
Speaker 4: Ukraine trying to recruit Afghan's fleeing the Taliban, trying to
Speaker 4: launder them through Iran to get to Ukraine to fight
Speaker 4: the Russians. He was extraordinarily zealous and usually so, you
Speaker 4: might say, for the Cranian cause. But he was on
Speaker 4: the radar of law enforcement because he has two prior
Speaker 4: federal convictions as well, including for one gun charge back
Speaker 4: in two thousand and two in North Carolina when he
Speaker 4: was illegally owning a fully automatic weapon in violation of
Speaker 4: a prohibition era statute from the nineteen thirties. To say
Speaker 4: this is an excuseable reader, I think would be an understatement.
Speaker 4: It's disgusting.
Speaker 7: I'm a Paul.
Speaker 4: Thank god Donald Trump is.
Speaker 3: Safe and almost miraculous again. He's been very lucky twice
Speaker 3: this time around, just because a Secret Service agent spotted
Speaker 3: the rifle. And you would think that would be a
Speaker 3: very eagle eyed individual, indeed in a golf course, to
Speaker 3: spot that rifle and to take immediate action. Josh, last
Speaker 3: night I detailed some of the frankly reprehensible media coverage
Speaker 3: seeking to essentially blame Trump for the attempts on his
Speaker 3: life that has continued. Have a look at this from
Speaker 3: the Atlantic, saying no other president has use an assassination
Speaker 3: attempt to inflame American politics the way Donald Trump does.
Speaker 3: Tom Nichols really does find new ways to humiliate himself.
Speaker 3: And here is Politico's headline focusing on Republicans being outraged
Speaker 3: by an assassination attempt and blaming them for partisan finger pointing, well,
Speaker 3: there's only one site having its candidate targeted by political
Speaker 3: operatives in the justice system, not to mention the two
Speaker 3: assassination attempts in as many months.
Speaker 4: The rhetoric from the last in this country is absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 4: You know Tom Nichols right there, who we were just
Speaker 4: seeing his writing in The Atlantic. I mean, he is
Speaker 4: the poster child of TDS. Trump de arrangement syndrome. But
Speaker 4: unfortunately there are many, many people on both the left
Speaker 4: and the controlled opposition full rage, that are speaking right
Speaker 4: now very similar language. So you had Jasmine Crockett, who
Speaker 4: was a nothing backbencher US congresswoman from the Dallas Fort
Speaker 4: Worth area in Texas. She was on MSNBC on Sunday
Speaker 4: saying that, you know, to this day, MAGA Republicans, MAGA
Speaker 4: extremists pose a unique threat to democracy. You know, King Jeffries,
Speaker 4: who is the minority leader of the US House, he
Speaker 4: had a two hours after the near assassination again of
Speaker 4: Donald Trump, saying that MAGA Republicans are the extreme, unprecedented threat,
Speaker 4: taught to twenty twenty five national abortion ban, all this stuff, which,
Speaker 4: by the way, not even true. Donald Trump has explicitly
Speaker 4: disavowed both of those things. And then ha, King Jeffries
Speaker 4: actually doubled down in another post on x on Monday morning.
Speaker 4: So these people have no shame whatsoever. But to your
Speaker 4: other point, you know, it has not escaped many of us,
Speaker 4: that the political violence and the attempts to assassinate political rivals.
Speaker 4: You know, it really is disproportionately overwhelmingly I would say
Speaker 4: nearly nearly exclusively coming from the political left against the right.
Speaker 4: Floyd Lee Corkins back in twenty twelve, who was a
Speaker 4: left wing nut job who was ginned up by MSNBC,
Speaker 4: tried to assassinate people at the Family Research Council social
Speaker 4: conservative Christian in Washington, DC. Five years later, James Hodgkinson
Speaker 4: tried to assassinate half of the Republican Congressional baseball team,
Speaker 4: almost fatally wounding Steep's lease in the process. In twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two, Nicholas Rosky flew from California to Maryland trying
Speaker 4: to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh after the Dobbs Abortion League opinion.
Speaker 4: Thank god he was arrested at the very last minute.
Speaker 5: There.
Speaker 4: Audrey hailed the transgender individual who shopped the Covenant School,
Speaker 4: the Christian school in Nashville the memo the manifesto was suppressed.
Speaker 4: I could go on here and now these two assassination
Speaker 4: attempts against Trump, But when would there be any accountability
Speaker 4: for what the left is doing in this country to
Speaker 4: get people not just to yell at their TVs, but
Speaker 4: to actually pick up arms and to try to assassinate
Speaker 4: the rivals. It is disgusting stuff.
Speaker 3: You are so right. There's been a remarkable lack of
Speaker 3: accountability for these Democrats who are spouting the most reckless,
Speaker 3: inflammatory retrick. If there were two attempts against Kamala Harris's
Speaker 3: life in as many months, every single Republican, even every
Speaker 3: single media identity who had been heavily critical of her,
Speaker 3: would be under scrutiny. The retoric would be questioned, this
Speaker 3: just isn't happening with Trump, and the fact that the
Speaker 3: suspects hysterical tweets about Trump mirror what we have seen
Speaker 3: from Kamala Harris and many others also in the media
Speaker 3: in politics. In some cases some of it is word
Speaker 3: for word. And I've got to ask you, Josh, is
Speaker 3: another attempt against Donald Trump's life? A matter of when,
Speaker 3: not if? How long can Trump play golf have outdoor rallies.
Speaker 3: He has been remarkably lucky twice. But as his son
Speaker 3: Eric remarked, my father is running out of lives here.
Speaker 3: How many more rifles are going to come within assassination
Speaker 3: distance of my father? That's what he said, And I'm
Speaker 3: sure a lot of people are thinking the same thing.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I was getting dinner last night with some friends here
Speaker 4: in Florida, and the topic of the twenty twenty four
Speaker 4: election naturally came up, as it often does these days
Speaker 4: here in the US, and one of my friends said
Speaker 4: that she thought that Kamala was going to win, and
Speaker 4: I said that, no, I actually respectfully disagree. I'm not
Speaker 4: confident in this, but I think that if the election
Speaker 4: were held tomorrow, I think that Donald Trump would win,
Speaker 4: which is at my actual stance. And then my friend
Speaker 4: responded and she said, that's assuming that he's alive. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's assuming that he is actually on the ballot come
Speaker 4: November fifth, and that they have not taken him out.
Speaker 4: You know, Look, Red, I have not personally. I'm the
Speaker 4: shows that I host or on social media gone ahead
Speaker 4: and blamed the Secret Service, a FBI, deep state individual
Speaker 4: actors of sabotage and trying to put don Trump in
Speaker 4: that position. But I've had many friends who have done
Speaker 4: that over the past twenty four to forty eight hours,
Speaker 4: and I have to say I do not blame them,
Speaker 4: because this is really starting to look like a bit
Speaker 4: more than a pure coincidence, isn't it. I mean, if
Speaker 4: the Secret Service is really bogged down by d I hires,
Speaker 4: which I'm having to believe that it is. You would
Speaker 4: think that there will be more high profile screw ups
Speaker 4: on other people other than Donald J.
Speaker 1: Trump.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's other data points there. If the problem
Speaker 4: is systemic to the Secret Service, he would not be
Speaker 4: the only victim of his gross negligence. How many episodes
Speaker 4: of gross negligence do we have to see in order
Speaker 4: to conclude that there actually is something perhaps a little
Speaker 4: bit more perfidious the sinister are going on here on that.
Speaker 3: First assassination attempt. We have now more explosive revelations about
Speaker 3: the Secret Service. The New York Post is reporting the
Speaker 3: agent in charge of the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 3: was known to be incompetent and failed a key examination
Speaker 3: during their federal law enforcement training. This is according to
Speaker 3: new whistleblower allegations released by Senator Josh Howley.
Speaker 5: How can the Secret.
Speaker 3: Service be that incompetent? We've also learned this week their
Speaker 3: intelligence units were absent from the Butler rally, and even
Speaker 3: after the shooting, they made enormous errors and not properly
Speaker 3: securing the hospital where President Trump was receiving treatment. You
Speaker 3: can understand why people are believe in conspiracy theories. It's
Speaker 3: hard sometimes to believe you could have this level of incompetence.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is. And sometimes, as we've often learned
Speaker 4: in America in the past five to ten years, the
Speaker 4: line between the conspiracy theory and fact sometimes it's actually
Speaker 4: quite blurry. I mean, the Left obviously has dismissed any
Speaker 4: number of things as conspiracy theories, whether it's the lab
Speaker 4: leak in Wuhan, China, or the Hunter Biden Russian laptop
Speaker 4: as Russian disinformation, which obviously it was not. You know,
Speaker 4: so the line does get a little blurry sometimes there.
Speaker 4: But you know, generally speaking when it comes to the
Speaker 4: Secret Service. I mean, one of my first thoughts when
Speaker 4: the when I first heard the news on Sunday was
Speaker 4: I mean, I think a lot about America's enemies in
Speaker 4: the world, about China, Russia, Aron. I mean, what a
Speaker 4: clown show we must look like to our enemies all
Speaker 4: around the world. At a time when our enemies are
Speaker 4: have never been more on the march over the past
Speaker 4: twenty five thirty years. They must look at us and
Speaker 4: they must just laugh and laugh and laugh. And you
Speaker 4: know another thing that I was thinking about, you know,
Speaker 4: the new cycle here in the US is so chaotic,
Speaker 4: and we're six seven weeks or whatever it is away
Speaker 4: from a presidential election, so the new cycle moving this
Speaker 4: quickly is somewhat understandable. But we also moved on from
Speaker 4: that first assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, very very very quickly,
Speaker 4: and we still have this congressional task for us where
Speaker 4: waiting for them to produce any find things. But every
Speaker 4: time that there is a a near assassination, an assassination
Speaker 4: attempts on a high profile individual, let alone a president
Speaker 4: of the United States, every time that happens, and the
Speaker 4: new cycle just moves on within a few days as
Speaker 4: if nothing happened and no one's even talking about it.
Speaker 4: You know, every day that that happens, every instance, God
Speaker 4: forbid that happens. If it happens again, God forbid. You know,
Speaker 4: America just gets closer and closer to being a full
Speaker 4: fledged banana republic. I feel.
Speaker 7: You are absolutely right.
Speaker 3: The way they tried to memory hold that assassination attempt,
Speaker 3: and it was so remarkable in so many ways, the
Speaker 3: fact that at that last milli second he turned his head,
Speaker 3: saving his life, and still it came within a couple
Speaker 3: of centimeters of killing him, and so to have that,
Speaker 3: have it all captured on video, and then to see
Speaker 3: the media just move on like it was nothing when
Speaker 3: they're obsessing about January sixth to this day.
Speaker 7: It just tells you everything you.
Speaker 3: Need to know about why trust in the media is
Speaker 3: at historic Low's Josh and the US media, I think
Speaker 3: again this week have really disgraced themselves with the way
Speaker 3: they're covering this second attempt, almost blaming Trump and his
Speaker 3: supporters for being upset about it.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't see a whole lot of sadness. Frankly,
Speaker 4: I don't see a whole lot of regrets. I don't
Speaker 4: see a whole lot of contemplation or introspection or any
Speaker 4: kind of just looking in the mirror and asking whether
Speaker 4: or not you know any of these individuals, whether it's
Speaker 4: Joy Reid and Jensaki on MSNBC or Joy Behar on
Speaker 4: The View, or any of these other individuals. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't see a whole lot of people asking am
Speaker 4: I partially like like in a small way, and like
Speaker 4: am I partially to blame from this current noxious atmosphere
Speaker 4: in American politics? I mean, surely it is not asking
Speaker 4: too much to ask a bare minimum that we not
Speaker 4: call for the extermination either literally or proverbially, of the
Speaker 4: opposing candidate. You know, I was I was watching a
Speaker 4: clip earlier today of Congressman Dan Goldman, who is in
Speaker 4: New York City, very left winging Democrat. You know, he
Speaker 4: actually called verbatim for the elimination of Donald Trump earlier
Speaker 4: this year. He was talking about this, you know, this
Speaker 4: Democratic Party propaganda context that Donald Trump is this unmitigative
Speaker 4: threat to democracy, and he actually said he has to
Speaker 4: be eliminated. Well, what in the world did you guys
Speaker 4: think was going to happen? You know, ultimately we are
Speaker 4: culpable for our own actions. I'm not saying that anyone
Speaker 4: actually pulled the trigger other than Thomas Crooks and Butler Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4: But you also cannot overlook the actual broader context. Those
Speaker 4: two things have happened to be both true at the
Speaker 4: same time.
Speaker 3: I feel, and we're seeing them trying to hold Republicans
Speaker 3: responsible for these supposed bomb threats in Springfield, Ohio. But
Speaker 3: you can't hold Democrats responsible for characterizing Trump as a hitler,
Speaker 3: as a threat to democracy, and then having these acts
Speaker 3: of violence perpetuated against him.
Speaker 7: It's bizarre.
Speaker 3: It's sadly what we've become used to in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Josh Hammah, thank you so much for your time this evening.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 7: Reata still to come.
Speaker 3: The latest on the more A Deeming defamation case against
Speaker 3: John Pursuitter on what we found out from the seventeen
Speaker 3: recording played in court today. Welcome back Today, a recording
Speaker 3: taken by deputy Victorian Liberal leader David Southwick was played
Speaker 3: in the More Redeeming defamation case against John Pursuito.
Speaker 10: The court heard.
Speaker 3: Senior Victorian liberals confronting more Deeming about attending a woman's
Speaker 3: rights rally which was gate crash by cosplaying neo Nazis.
Speaker 3: Missus Deming's barrister, Sukrisanthu told the court that her client
Speaker 3: was subjected to a shocking and prolonged attack. She said,
Speaker 3: it's a form of what young people call gas lighting.
Speaker 3: They bullied her.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 3: This seventy minute recording was captured the day after the protest.
Speaker 3: Miss Deeming was told by John Pursuito, either you resigned
Speaker 3: from the Parliamentary party or he would look at a
Speaker 3: process under the parliamentary rules joining me now is the
Speaker 3: head of Advocacy at Women's Forum Australia, Stephanie Bastian, Stephanie,
Speaker 3: This case is underway and we're not making any conclusions
Speaker 3: or predictions about its outcome, but what can you tell
Speaker 3: me about what we learned today and how Mura was
Speaker 3: treated during that process? What we found out from that recording.
Speaker 10: Well, good evening, Rita and yes, an extraordinary morning in
Speaker 10: the courtroom. Obviously we haven't heard the defense respond to
Speaker 10: anything yet, but just on faith value, what you can
Speaker 10: really see is the bully boy culture that is apparent
Speaker 10: in the Liberal Party and this is playing out in
Speaker 10: the Federal Court. And whether it's more Deeming Renee Hea
Speaker 10: It Cynthia Watson, it really goes to show just how
Speaker 10: far these people will go to bludgeon their political opponents out.
Speaker 10: If they don't agree with what their views are, they
Speaker 10: will try and get rid of them, and they use
Speaker 10: the press to do so. That's very obvious with this
Speaker 10: recording and the way that they go about it, and
Speaker 10: I think that it's good it's being ed because the
Speaker 10: Liberal Party needs to have a cleanup. Everyone can see
Speaker 10: this going on. We see these anonymous Liberal sources going
Speaker 10: through the press raising their concerns. It's very clear, and
Speaker 10: I think the Liberal Party needs to meet. Perhaps even
Speaker 10: there needs to be a federal intervention, such as in
Speaker 10: New South Wales. But what is happening to these female
Speaker 10: conservative candidates and MPs is very concerning and it needs
Speaker 10: to change.
Speaker 3: Well, the Liberal Party, certainly in Victoria, has a problem
Speaker 3: with conservative women. You've named just a few there, and
Speaker 3: it's not just the bully boys' tactics, because there's plenty
Speaker 3: of smaller liberal females within the party who haven't exactly
Speaker 3: been supportive of more deeming and other conservative women who've
Speaker 3: at different times found themselves under attack. Now, this decision
Speaker 3: to go to war with more a Deemis has been
Speaker 3: extremely costly for John Pursuto, for the Victorian Libs, for
Speaker 3: the Federal Libs. You could argue it's been a distraction.
Speaker 3: Are we going to see it at the conclusion of
Speaker 3: this case, perhaps a change in policy. Will this be
Speaker 3: a bit of an awakening that this is actually an
Speaker 3: issue in the community and they've been on the wrong
Speaker 3: side of history with it. They've allowed Labor and the
Speaker 3: Greens to set the agenda without challenge.
Speaker 10: Well, I certainly hope so, and I think This really
Speaker 10: shows the issues when you have a leadership team within
Speaker 10: five kilometers of each other in.
Speaker 7: The tram tracks.
Speaker 10: Kamoira's views are supported within the community, particularly in the
Speaker 10: Western suburbs. I mean, you go to the last statelection,
Speaker 10: the biggest swings to the Liberal Party were in the
Speaker 10: Western suburbs where twenty percent labor strongholds went to ten
Speaker 10: percent or five percent. The biggest swings were in these
Speaker 10: multicultural communities that are being ignored by labor And in
Speaker 10: terms of women's forum, Australia imported councils dealing with issues
Speaker 10: such as private spaces like change rooms and bathrooms in
Speaker 10: the community and this impacts multiculturals and ethnic minority groups
Speaker 10: who have very strict rules on privacy in the way
Speaker 10: that men and women interact in those private spaces. I
Speaker 10: mean even in terms of your private school scenarios. Mums
Speaker 10: are very concerned about the fact that their daughters are
Speaker 10: sharing dormitories and bathrooms with teenage boys who are identifying
Speaker 10: as girls. This is a widespread issue and there are
Speaker 10: plenty of women across the political spectrum who now feel
Speaker 10: homeless because of the lack of representation, and so this
Speaker 10: should be an opportunity for the Liberal party to fill
Speaker 10: that void, and instead they're running for cover, they're hiding.
Speaker 10: It's political cowardice, and that really played out in the
Speaker 10: recording that we heard this morning as well.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's cowardice, but it's also stupidity. It's not recognizing
Speaker 3: that there is enormous interest in this issue and the
Speaker 3: overwhelming majority of the people feel unrepresented because you've got
Speaker 3: every major political party with the radical transactivists as opposed
Speaker 3: to the mainstream opinion that wants to protect women's only spaces.
Speaker 3: And that's what that rally was about. It was about
Speaker 3: women's rights. Stephanie Bastian, thank you so much for your
Speaker 3: time this evening.
Speaker 7: That's it from me.
Speaker 3: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow and I don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3: Newsnight is up next