1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Now, if you've been paying attention to the news here 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: on five double A over the last week particularly, you'll 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: have noticed has been, in fact almost every day news 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: of fatalities on our roads, and today not a good 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: start to today. Police investigating a serious crash at lower 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Light this morning two thirty am, corner of Port Wakefield 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: Highway and Richardson Road at lower Light a truck colliding 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: with a pedestrian, a twenty nine year old Osborne woman 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: critically injured. In that the driver of the truck, a 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: thirty eight year old only Park Man uninjured taken to 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: hospital for testing etc. Working with police, but critically injured woman. 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Earlier this morning, at twelveo fifteen, a Ford sedan speeding 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: no number plates at Derek and police called in pole 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: air to assist from above the alleged car at one 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty k's an hour in a ninety zone 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: on Heaslip Road at Penfield and also on the wrong 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: side of the road. It was tracked to the Northern 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: suburb on the expressway, collided with another vehicle on the 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: exit ramp at Curtis Road and the driver rested shortly after. 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: So there was that. Then there was a fatality, and 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: this occurred around the same time. At twelve fifteen, emergency 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: services called the Port Wakefield Highway and Macavoy Road Waterloo 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: Corner reports a concrete truck in a sedan collided. The 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: driver of the white Lexus, a nineteen year old woman 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: from Buckland Park, So not far from home at that point, 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: sadly died at the scene. The driver of the truck 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: taken to hospital treated for minor injuries. Her death the 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: sixty ninth life lost on Say roads this year. Then 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: there was the motorcyclist who crashed on Kerr Road and 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Beaumont Road at Balhanna and the Adelaide Hills one o'clock Sunday. 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: Forty eight year old Adelaide man died at the scene. 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: He was a. 33 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: Sixty eighth fatality thirteenth of October as well, the same day, 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: a man died after a fatal crash at Waterloo Corner 35 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: three forty five am on Sunday Port Wakefield Highway. A 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: car hit a light pole, then a tree. A twenty 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: seven year old man from Elizabeth North died at the scene. 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: He was the sixty seventh fatality. A pedestrian died after 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: being struck by a car at Evanstone Garden on Saturday 40 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: the twelfth. Ninety one year old Man Hilli, a man 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: died at the scene after the accident at Evanston Garden, 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: so he was our sixty sixth fatality. Our sixty fifth 43 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: occurred the day before on the Friday, Dry Creek a 44 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: motorcyclist on the North South Motorway four thirty pm on 45 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: the Wingfield interchange on ramp to the North South Motorway 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: at Dry Creek and nineteen year old Monopara west Man 47 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: died at the scene. And a week before we had 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: our sixty fourth fatality a motorcycle rider at Hope Valley 49 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: colliding with a car and possibly clipped the car on 50 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: the way through riding between a couple of cars. But 51 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: police invests stigating the cause of that accident obviously, as 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: with all the others. So all of a sudden we've 53 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: had this this spike in fatalities of five or so 54 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: in the course of a week, and most of those 55 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: occurring within the last few days, and just absolute tragedies, 56 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: every single one of them. For the obviously the people 57 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: involved and particularly their families now mourning their lost loved 58 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: ones and just terrible that all of a sudden we've 59 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what taken our you know, without and 60 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: pun intended he had taken our eyes off the road 61 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: or off the main game. It's it's not good. Cameron 62 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: wearing Australian Driving Institute Cameron, good morning. 63 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: Good morning. 64 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: Just terrible. Why do we fall into these holes from 65 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: time to time? Is it just you know a combination 66 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: of bad luck and factors and they all just heap 67 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: in together. Because you know, after last year we had 68 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: a terrible road told last year and this year started 69 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: off much better and lower, and all of a sudden 70 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: we're going for it again. It's just crazy. 71 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doing ourselves. Look okay, the first thing is 72 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: you can't predict necessarily when these things going to happen, 73 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: can you. But I believe that we are going to 74 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: continue with this type of these types of numbers until 75 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: we actually get stuck into our culture. You know, you 76 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: look at all these when you look at the majority 77 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: of these crashes, it's attitude and and so one of 78 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: my jobs is I suppose look at you know, these 79 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: bell curves. If you're familiar with that type of arrangement 80 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: where the majority of people don't do a bad job. 81 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: Then you've got the people at the opposite ends of 82 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: that bell curve, which they do an amazing job, and 83 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: then the other end they do a shocking job. But 84 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: the you know, the one of the problems is that 85 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: it sounds like we don't have the full detailed of course, 86 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: so it should be a little bit careful, but it 87 00:04:53,160 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: sounds like that the the attitude towards better drive habits 88 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: and also not using the public road as a racetrack 89 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 2: is something that we're always going to battle, and we're 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: going to hear about the clowns that do a proper 91 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: job of it and end up killing themselves and God 92 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: to bid take someone out with them. But looking at 93 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: the spectrum, you know, the bit that the bit that 94 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: strikes me is that we've got ninety one year old 95 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: and a nineteen year old seem to be the oldest 96 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: and the youngest in the space of a week. To 97 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: swap the numbers around. It's ironic, but such a young 98 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: age to lose your life, and what a horrible way 99 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: to go after such a long life. You know, it's 100 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: and I would love to know why they feel it's 101 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: the risk worth taking at that time. Why do they 102 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: feel they have the capacity and the ability to do 103 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: what they do and then putting themselves in a position 104 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: of risk. You know, we don't know anything about these 105 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: truck incidents, but you never take from a track, and 106 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: they certainly don't take on a concrete truck. And so 107 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: you know, sorry, I think make sure that might wins. 108 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: I will always come back to the same thing. We 109 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: have got a cultural problem. It's a cultural problem being 110 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: developing now for close to twenty five years and we're 111 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: still seeing it. And people are choosing. People are choosing 112 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: excessive speed over being sensible. 113 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: Would fines fix it? Will steeper? Fine, I mean there's 114 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: steep enough as it is, and you know your court 115 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: speed and yeah, it doesn't seem to make any difference. 116 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: You're right, what about more cameras? Would that work? And yes, 117 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: it's revenue raising. It's nothing other than that, I suppose, 118 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: apart from people who you know, it's not going to 119 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: catch people who decide I'm never going to speed and 120 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: put the cruise control on on one hundred and ten 121 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: k road or whatever to ensure they don't. It's designed 122 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: for the people who thumb their nose at at all 123 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: of this and it seems none of that has any 124 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: deterrent for those people. 125 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 2: So it's a small percentage of people who are ruining 126 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: it for the rest of us. No, I don't think 127 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: more owns of the answer. I think it's a very 128 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: very pious way to respond to say, well, if you 129 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: don't speed, you won't get fined, and so well, hang on, 130 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: we're one of the most persecuted countries in the world 131 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: for speed. We're in one of the most persecuted states 132 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: for speed, New South Wales. So I think your pardon, 133 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: Victoria and Queensland are probably leading the charge in that respect, 134 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: particularly Victoria. And you know, we don't tend to leave much. 135 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: We tend to follow. So we just do the You 136 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: do what they're doing. You go four k's over the limit, 137 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: you get pinged, and that's that's not relevant anymore, you know. 138 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: And one of the other big, big, big problems is that, okay, 139 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: the speed limit on a particular road might be one 140 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: hundred and ten. The first thing we do is go 141 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: for cruise control, and that's actually one of the biggest problems. 142 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: You might say, well, look, you're managing your speed, yeah, 143 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: but in the process you're actually switching your brain off. 144 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: You can guarantee people pull their feet away from the pedals, 145 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: guarantee that they go to a lazy seating and steering regime. 146 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: And now they're doing one hundred and ten. There's a 147 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: minimum set speed heading towards the situation that they'ren't prepared for. 148 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 2: And that's actually the other problem. So you've got two problems. 149 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: You've got disengaged drivers because they're too scared to speed, 150 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: so they put cruise control on and therefore become disengaged. 151 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: And then you've got the others who are just clowns 152 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: and frankly taking on physics and losing, and we get 153 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: another fatality which is very very expensive to the community 154 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: and emotionally as well as financially. And then the first 155 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: thing that the decision makers what they do is going 156 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: up the fines and it's just it's infantile thinking and 157 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: it really winds me up. 158 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: Interesting what you say about cruise control, because cars also 159 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: have modern cars anyway have this feature where if you're 160 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: approaching on cruise control, the car in front of you 161 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: that is going at a slower speed, the car, your 162 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: car will automatically slow down to match that and stay 163 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: there at one hundred or whatever it is meters behind. 164 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: So you know there is that is a saving grace 165 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: to cruise control. Well, I suppose, but only if you're 166 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: in a more recently built car, as in the last 167 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: ten years, I suppose. 168 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So every modern fleet vehicle would have that. 169 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: In the last five years in particular, that's almost standard 170 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: to have that. That's a good thing. But the other 171 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: thing we're noticing with that is that people don't realize 172 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: that they've actually gone into it like a convoy mode, 173 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: and so the truck might be doing one hundred, they 174 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: were doing one hundred and ten, they pull in behind 175 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: a truck and they actually don't notice the cart slowing down, 176 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: and so they don't realize that they're in an overtaking 177 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: position and become even less engaged. So I'm not saying 178 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: it's a bad thing. I think that active cruise control 179 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: is a good thing. What we also know is that 180 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: there's a strong belief in the thing called collision mitigation, 181 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: which means that if that truck that we're talking about, 182 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: it's in front of us, was slowing down, that theoretically 183 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: our cast slows down with it. And the other theory 184 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: is that if it does emergency stop, our car will 185 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: do an emergency stop. But there's evidence that the crash 186 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: is reduced, but there's still a crash, so it mitigates 187 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: that it doesn't avoid it. And there's not many manufacturers 188 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: who are prepared to say that it's an avoidance thing, 189 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: because then you can go back to the vehicle manufacturer 190 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: and said, look, I bury myself deep up with of 191 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: a truck, it's your fault, which, of course that's a 192 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: stupid thing to try and expect a car company to 193 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: take responsibility for. Until things are driverless and autonomous, then 194 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 2: that can't happen. 195 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: But how do we change the culture? It's the question then, 196 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: coming back to the original point. 197 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: It's going to take ten years, and we've been talking 198 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: about this for a long time. It does fall on 199 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: their fears. There are minor changes happening at the instructor 200 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: learner instructor stage, but there's still gaping holes there, and 201 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 2: the Department of Transport is in a position to take 202 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: some bold moves and do some really good things, but 203 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: no one's prepared to stand up on the platform and 204 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: say here here's the problem, because they're worried about being 205 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: shattered down and it's a real shame because we have 206 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: an opportunity to say, right, let's really clean this up. 207 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: Let's stop having part time is doing driver education and 208 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: actually make it a full time career. Let's stop having 209 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: people at the end of their working life do those 210 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: roles and do them at the beginning of their working life, 211 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: because younger people relate better to younger people when it 212 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 2: comes to education like that, and quite frankly, start to 213 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: change the culture that way. We could do some advertising. 214 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: I suppose we see cultural change in the workplace when 215 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: we do training in a big workplace scenario. But that's 216 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: a situation where you can put it. You can build 217 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: a bloody big fence around it, and you can you 218 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: can maintain better standards. But it's the same answer every time. 219 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: It's education. We already have enforcement. Our engineering of our 220 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: roads is probably on the horse side, but we don't 221 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 2: have any encouragement, okay, And I think that's a really 222 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: important thing that we need to have more of an 223 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: encouraging method of inciting more engaged drivers. When they're disengaged, 224 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: they drive poorly, they drive lazy. They might not be speeding, 225 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: but their brains are disengaged and that's as big a 226 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: problem with. 227 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: Speeding, all right, Cameron, have to leave it there. Appreciate 228 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: your time, Thank you, pleasure. Cameron wearing from the Australian 229 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: Driving Institute on the spade of fatalities we've had just 230 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: in the last few days. It's not good on our 231 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: roads at the moment.