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Speaker 1: Apoge Production.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mickie Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.

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Speaker 2: People are talking to me and they are not physically

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Speaker 3: Can't call me crazy because I said it first.

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Speaker 2: Whoever's trying to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like,

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Speaker 2: just bring it on.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Crazy Crazy Crazy, The Village Crazy Lady Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady.

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Speaker 2: This week, I have an incredible guest in who is

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Speaker 2: going to educate the shit out of us. I've got

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Speaker 2: Rebecca May, who is the period coach. We connected about

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Speaker 2: over a year. Well it was well over a year

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Speaker 2: ago now actually a couple of years. Yes, Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: that's gone so fast. So even though I'm someone who

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Speaker 2: has grown up in a family of all girls, like

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Speaker 2: literally the eldest of four girls and only our mum

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Speaker 2: like literally nothing. It was a surprise every single time

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Speaker 2: my period came. I have ENDO, I have PMDD. I've

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Speaker 2: always had like so many issues around my cycle. I've

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Speaker 2: only got one fallopian tube. Like there's so much shit

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Speaker 2: going on down there, and I just was so unbelievably disconnected,

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Speaker 2: like just knew absolutely nothing. But then I started to

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Speaker 2: learn more about cycles and like why we should be

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Speaker 2: why we should be learning about them just because they

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Speaker 2: literally are such a significant part of our life, like

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Speaker 2: because dirt, I know, like really massive. One side had children,

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Speaker 2: one of those lucky ones who wouldn't get their period

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Speaker 2: again until i'd basically finish breastfeeding, and then I'd have

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Speaker 3: And I just did that a few times.

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Speaker 2: That was just my life for like, you know, a

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Speaker 3: I had Woody, I was like so excited.

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Speaker 2: To get my period back because I was like, this

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Speaker 2: like sew me up, no, thank you, like sent Chris

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Speaker 2: absolutely not. And I was like, once I get my

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Speaker 2: period back, and by this time we'd connected we chatted.

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Speaker 2: I'd learned a fair bit from you. I was so

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Speaker 2: interested in, like everything that you had to teach, And

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Speaker 2: I said to myself, the second I get my period back,

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Speaker 2: I'm working with you one on one because I just

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Speaker 2: want to really fucking learn and understand my cycle. So

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Speaker 2: let's fucking talk about it. For status Beck, what got

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Speaker 2: you into it? Like, what made you so passionate about

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Speaker 2: learning about cycles?

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Speaker 1: So I originally was really interested in my cycle, similar

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Speaker 4: After the birth of my first baby, Olive.

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Speaker 1: I got my cycle back at around ten months postpartum,

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Speaker 1: and something inside me was just like, I feel like

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Speaker 1: and I found that it just changed my entire life, literally,

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Speaker 1: like it made me a better person, It made me

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Speaker 1: you know, that first year of post pardon when life

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Speaker 4: And so it was just something that I.

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Speaker 3: It is literally wild insane.

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Speaker 2: It is the thing that keeps the world literally going

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Speaker 1: I think a big part of you know, learning about

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Speaker 1: period doesn't mean it's going to fix it, right. You

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Speaker 1: up in a different way because we're all different, right,

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Speaker 1: Like, there's so many elements to it, and so that's why,

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Speaker 3: And the thing is it doesn't take much. That's what

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Speaker 2: My favorite things that I've learned, and like what I

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Speaker 2: working with your cycle is everything, because the second, the

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Speaker 2: like why do I have such a writer's block? Why

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Speaker 3: Why am I like? And I would just shame myself.

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Speaker 2: It just added like layers and layers and layers and

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Speaker 3: So it didn't help me at all.

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Speaker 2: just It's like I genuinely thought that I was supposed

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Speaker 1: Because the world runs on a twenty four hour cycle,

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Speaker 1: which is conducive to a man's hormonal cycle, right, their

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Speaker 1: monthly cycle. And so all these women like, yes, power

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Speaker 1: all these things. But what we've done is really been

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Speaker 1: finding I'm seeing now so many people like yourself, you know,

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Speaker 4: The doc thinks it's normal, it's not.

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Speaker 2: And the way that like god, it shits me to tears.

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Speaker 2: way that the patriarchy has just created this, in the

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Speaker 4: And the facts, please give us some breadcrambs, you.

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Speaker 2: Know literally, and and the fact that like the pill,

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Speaker 2: have experienced horror stories from being on the pill. Yes,

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Speaker 3: But like where the fuck is the is the men's pill?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like there's just so many things. It fucks with our

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Speaker 2: But then as soon as like our hormones are affected

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Speaker 1: And it's so interesting because the way that they passed

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right. And it's just it feels like it

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Speaker 1: It feels like this is how I'm meant to be living,

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Speaker 4: You know. It's like when you do your twelve English and.

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Speaker 1: They say to you, this is the book you're studying,

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Speaker 4: No, that's not how it works.

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Speaker 1: Our bodies are our own bodies, and no one else

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Speaker 1: if you can take one thing away from this conversation

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Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty percent. And there is so much

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Speaker 3: About your cycle.

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Speaker 2: about your cycle, or maybe you're like us and like

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Speaker 2: in your thirties and you're going, well, not us anymore.

439
00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 3: But us previously. And it's like, how.

440
00:22:34,801 --> 00:22:38,201
Speaker 2: Do I not know fucking anything about my body? Can

441
00:22:38,241 --> 00:22:40,641
Speaker 2: you please give us a lesson?

442
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:41,041
Speaker 4: Oh?

443
00:22:41,201 --> 00:22:42,721
Speaker 1: I always find this hard to keep short, but I

444
00:22:42,761 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: will do my best. But you are correct tracking our cycle,

445
00:22:48,201 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 1: as you know, track your damn cycle. It's the first

446
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,961
Speaker 1: thing you need to do to start learning your period patterns.

447
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about tracking your cycle on an app.

448
00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,561
Speaker 1: I'm talking about getting my free tracker that you can

449
00:23:00,561 --> 00:23:02,761
Speaker 1: come and get from your Instagram. Put the link in

450
00:23:02,801 --> 00:23:05,321
Speaker 1: the show notes. So you need to start trying on

451
00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:08,241
Speaker 1: a piece of paper. And that's because we need our

452
00:23:08,281 --> 00:23:11,481
Speaker 1: body to slow down enough to connect to our mind.

453
00:23:12,001 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: We need that mind body connection to be able to

454
00:23:14,001 --> 00:23:16,761
Speaker 1: actually check in with ourselves. How am I feeling today?

455
00:23:16,801 --> 00:23:19,481
Speaker 1: How am I checking in today? And that's the number

456
00:23:19,521 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: one first step. That's what I was just talking about.

457
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,481
Speaker 1: Trusting your intuition. It's not oh, I'm on cycle day,

458
00:23:26,041 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: you know one, and so I should be feeling this way.

459
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,841
Speaker 1: That's not what we wanted to do. We don't want

460
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,601
Speaker 1: to do that. We want to say first how am

461
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: I feeling in my body? And then we want to

462
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: add that layer on top what cycle day am I on?

463
00:23:40,321 --> 00:23:43,281
Speaker 1: And does that kind of match where I should be

464
00:23:44,041 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: is this my regular period pattern from my body, and

465
00:23:47,801 --> 00:23:50,321
Speaker 1: also what's externally going on for me right now that

466
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,921
Speaker 1: could also be affecting that, right because that's important too.

467
00:23:53,761 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 4: So that's what I want.

468
00:23:54,561 --> 00:23:58,201
Speaker 1: To start with, is because I love giving an education,

469
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: but I don't want you to take it away and say, well,

470
00:24:00,441 --> 00:24:03,521
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling like that right now, That's fine. We

471
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: need to just learn how to call correct a little bit.

472
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,281
Speaker 1: And so that's the first place to start. And I

473
00:24:09,321 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: have a freebie which I am about to launch at

474
00:24:12,481 --> 00:24:14,001
Speaker 1: the time of recording this, so I'm not sure when

475
00:24:14,001 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: we're releasing this podcast, but it's going to have a

476
00:24:18,041 --> 00:24:21,361
Speaker 1: video on exactly what to track, how to track. It's

477
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: got five days of voice notes from me all about

478
00:24:23,761 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, cycle imbalances, learning your period patterns, how to

479
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,241
Speaker 1: say consistent, all those kind of things. That's jam packed

480
00:24:30,241 --> 00:24:33,281
Speaker 1: full of information. And so I'll give you the link

481
00:24:33,321 --> 00:24:36,041
Speaker 1: for that, and then you can go ahead and start

482
00:24:36,041 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: printing your own cycle trackers and start doing that, because

483
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: that's a very important first step.

484
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Speaker 3: I love that.

485
00:24:42,041 --> 00:24:46,241
Speaker 2: Can I just the writing down like because I did

486
00:24:46,241 --> 00:24:47,761
Speaker 2: the same thing, and I was doing the apps and

487
00:24:47,801 --> 00:24:49,761
Speaker 2: I was whatever it was kind of like, oh, I

488
00:24:49,801 --> 00:24:53,041
Speaker 2: have an idea of what's going on writing down how

489
00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:56,681
Speaker 2: you feel every day, and I noted and I realized,

490
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Speaker 2: and I think you said to me sort of that

491
00:24:58,321 --> 00:25:01,281
Speaker 2: first month, it's just like, oh, just that's really interesting.

492
00:25:01,561 --> 00:25:03,401
Speaker 3: That's it. Sort of like that's really interesting.

493
00:25:03,481 --> 00:25:05,721
Speaker 4: Three months is interesting, yeah.

494
00:25:05,521 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: And because really and then but after a few months

495
00:25:08,681 --> 00:25:11,921
Speaker 2: of doing that, all of a sudden you start to realize, oh,

496
00:25:12,001 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 2: hold it. I felt like that last month. I felt

497
00:25:13,921 --> 00:25:16,761
Speaker 2: like that the month before. I now know exactly the

498
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,521
Speaker 2: day where I basically have insomnia and I just really

499
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,321
Speaker 2: stuck at sleeping, and I now just go, oh my god,

500
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:24,521
Speaker 2: how nice is this.

501
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,561
Speaker 3: I just get to enjoy fucking staying up and reading

502
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: or not.

503
00:25:27,481 --> 00:25:30,001
Speaker 4: Right, And it's like that's your period pattern for you.

504
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,521
Speaker 1: So you could say, like, that's on day twenty one

505
00:25:32,561 --> 00:25:35,041
Speaker 1: that I have that insomnia. Yeah, yeah, But then the

506
00:25:35,041 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: person next to you might be like, oh, but I

507
00:25:37,561 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: feel really tired that day and I sleep for like

508
00:25:40,441 --> 00:25:43,281
Speaker 1: twelve hours that day. Yes, That's what I'm saying when

509
00:25:43,281 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: I say like, yes, you can have education, but you

510
00:25:46,521 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: can never replace your own intuition.

511
00:25:49,561 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: Totally and figuring it out for yourself.

512
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: And is so fucking empowering when you start to go like,

513
00:25:54,521 --> 00:25:56,521
Speaker 2: oh my god, I understand my body now.

514
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,281
Speaker 3: Anyway, keep going.

515
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,801
Speaker 1: Okay, so quick overview of the hormones of the menstrual cycle, right,

516
00:26:03,561 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: because obviously hormones play a huge role in how we're

517
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,201
Speaker 1: feeling and you know, physically, emotionally, all those things, they're

518
00:26:11,241 --> 00:26:14,241
Speaker 1: all a big part of it. So cycle day one

519
00:26:14,721 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: is the first day of a full bleed, right, So

520
00:26:17,681 --> 00:26:20,961
Speaker 1: it's not when we're spotting. It's not like, oh maybe

521
00:26:20,961 --> 00:26:22,561
Speaker 1: it's here, maybe it's not. It's the first day of

522
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: the full bleed. So that cycle day one. And so

523
00:26:26,241 --> 00:26:27,961
Speaker 1: when you start when you track, that's when you want

524
00:26:27,961 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: to track a cycle day one and that is so

525
00:26:30,561 --> 00:26:32,041
Speaker 1: that's such a menstruation phase.

526
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,641
Speaker 4: So that's when we have our period.

527
00:26:34,481 --> 00:26:37,041
Speaker 1: And a lot of people think that this is what

528
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when I talk about the menstrual cycle

529
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:42,561
Speaker 1: is just these three to seven days when you're bleeding

530
00:26:42,961 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: and then that's it. Then you just go about your

531
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,801
Speaker 1: life and then oh I got my cycle back. No,

532
00:26:47,001 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: your cycle is happening every single day, right, So this

533
00:26:49,041 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: is what we're going to talk about now. So menstrual

534
00:26:52,961 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: phase is three to seven days usually, and it's not

535
00:26:57,961 --> 00:27:01,281
Speaker 1: specifically going to end. That phase isn't going to just

536
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: end when you stop bleeding all the time, because it's

537
00:27:04,441 --> 00:27:07,761
Speaker 1: an energetic thing as well. So I want you to

538
00:27:07,801 --> 00:27:11,481
Speaker 1: when you're cycle tracking, start paying attention to how you're feeling,

539
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: because there will be a transition day where then you

540
00:27:13,921 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: transition into the next phase, which is the follicular phase,

541
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: which I also like to refer to as in a spring.

542
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: And so this is when we're feeling a little bit

543
00:27:24,961 --> 00:27:28,681
Speaker 1: more energetic and we're starting to you know, blossom out.

544
00:27:28,681 --> 00:27:31,001
Speaker 1: If you think about spring, the flowers are blossoming, right,

545
00:27:31,441 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: we're blossoming out of ourselves. We're starting to go a

546
00:27:34,241 --> 00:27:36,601
Speaker 1: bit more outward, getting a bit more social, a bit

547
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: more confident, a bit more creative, all those kind of things.

548
00:27:40,041 --> 00:27:43,201
Speaker 1: And so in contrast to that the menstruation phase, where

549
00:27:43,201 --> 00:27:45,561
Speaker 1: you're very inward, you don't want to talk to people,

550
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: you're just really reflective, and you're really craving rest and

551
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,481
Speaker 1: warmthed and nourishment, those two things are quite different, right,

552
00:27:53,521 --> 00:27:56,281
Speaker 1: So there's going to be like a really interesting transition

553
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,041
Speaker 1: phase here in the middle of those two things. And

554
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: so what I find a lot of the time is

555
00:28:00,721 --> 00:28:04,041
Speaker 1: people go, oh, my bleed's finished, I'm just going to

556
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:06,561
Speaker 1: go out and start being creative and frolic in the fields. No,

557
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,561
Speaker 1: it doesn't work like that.

558
00:28:09,201 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: It's actually so interesting because I'm on the precipice right now,

559
00:28:12,721 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: like I've just sort of finished the bleed, but today

560
00:28:15,561 --> 00:28:20,321
Speaker 2: I'm still very like, can't be fucked being online, like

561
00:28:20,481 --> 00:28:21,201
Speaker 2: wan to talk.

562
00:28:21,041 --> 00:28:24,001
Speaker 3: To as few people as possible. Obviously you've made the cards.

563
00:28:24,001 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 3: That's really great for you. Which really does feel like

564
00:28:31,481 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 3: that people are in that phase.

565
00:28:34,201 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and honestly, like, and so I think that this

566
00:28:38,561 --> 00:28:40,681
Speaker 1: is where a lot of people come undone with their

567
00:28:40,681 --> 00:28:43,361
Speaker 1: cycle health is because they try to push really hard.

568
00:28:44,281 --> 00:28:45,841
Speaker 1: And this is going back to what I said before,

569
00:28:45,881 --> 00:28:48,601
Speaker 1: because they should be feeling this way because they're not

570
00:28:48,601 --> 00:28:49,401
Speaker 1: bleeding anymore.

571
00:28:49,441 --> 00:28:51,321
Speaker 4: But that's not how your body works.

572
00:28:52,041 --> 00:28:57,801
Speaker 1: And so really just like honoring that transition is really important.

573
00:28:58,761 --> 00:29:03,081
Speaker 1: And so after we move from the spring phase, we

574
00:29:03,121 --> 00:29:06,841
Speaker 1: move into our ovulation phase. And again, obviously ovulation is

575
00:29:07,521 --> 00:29:10,121
Speaker 1: just the releasing of the egg, right, so that doesn't

576
00:29:10,201 --> 00:29:13,561
Speaker 1: take three or so days, but the energy of ovulation

577
00:29:13,681 --> 00:29:17,161
Speaker 1: is around about three days or so usually, and so

578
00:29:17,481 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: that's our like peak status. Like that's when we're outgoing,

579
00:29:22,001 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: we feel sexy as hell. You know, you're probably you know,

580
00:29:25,721 --> 00:29:28,041
Speaker 1: wanting to go on dates with our partners or cocktails

581
00:29:28,041 --> 00:29:31,361
Speaker 1: with the girls, or be out in the community and socializing.

582
00:29:31,401 --> 00:29:33,481
Speaker 1: Like we're really wanting to be like outward and we're

583
00:29:33,481 --> 00:29:35,441
Speaker 1: feeling really bloody good about ourselves.

584
00:29:35,921 --> 00:29:39,881
Speaker 2: Literally me and my ovulation I'm like, who's that hot bitch? Also,

585
00:29:40,081 --> 00:29:44,481
Speaker 2: I just want to like basically just like bang Chris,

586
00:29:44,521 --> 00:29:51,201
Speaker 2: just like like I'm like me cocking Libido skyrocket. Yeah,

587
00:29:51,241 --> 00:29:52,321
Speaker 2: I'm like, now's your time.

588
00:29:52,921 --> 00:29:54,081
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right.

589
00:29:54,121 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: This is why it's important for partners to know our

590
00:29:56,041 --> 00:29:58,601
Speaker 1: cycles as well. Right, Yes, they need to know these

591
00:29:58,641 --> 00:29:59,161
Speaker 1: things too.

592
00:30:00,881 --> 00:30:04,441
Speaker 4: Chris loves knowing for nothing else, right, this will get

593
00:30:04,441 --> 00:30:05,681
Speaker 4: them on board one.

594
00:30:05,641 --> 00:30:08,441
Speaker 2: Hundred other way, he knows when to like not even

595
00:30:08,641 --> 00:30:11,241
Speaker 2: fucking come near me and only say nice words and

596
00:30:11,281 --> 00:30:13,761
Speaker 2: like yeah, just don't poke the bear because I will

597
00:30:13,801 --> 00:30:16,121
Speaker 2: rip your fucking head off, And then he knows when

598
00:30:16,121 --> 00:30:16,921
Speaker 2: he can just like.

599
00:30:17,361 --> 00:30:18,481
Speaker 4: Really soon they're on in.

600
00:30:21,001 --> 00:30:23,521
Speaker 1: It's so true, though, And so what I want to

601
00:30:23,561 --> 00:30:26,521
Speaker 1: say for ovulation energy is just be really careful here

602
00:30:26,841 --> 00:30:30,521
Speaker 1: about any plans that you might be making, Like people

603
00:30:30,561 --> 00:30:34,241
Speaker 1: get really fucking excited in ovulation and they're like commit

604
00:30:34,281 --> 00:30:36,601
Speaker 1: to a lot of things that aren't going to be

605
00:30:36,641 --> 00:30:39,361
Speaker 1: helpful for them in the next week or two. So

606
00:30:39,721 --> 00:30:43,041
Speaker 1: you know, it's like if you ever wondered, like why

607
00:30:43,161 --> 00:30:45,001
Speaker 1: when I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm going to catch up

608
00:30:45,041 --> 00:30:47,321
Speaker 1: with all these people and I've committed to this work

609
00:30:47,361 --> 00:30:48,561
Speaker 1: task and that thing, and I'm going to do this

610
00:30:48,641 --> 00:30:50,761
Speaker 1: work presentation because you're feeling really good at the time

611
00:30:50,801 --> 00:30:53,401
Speaker 1: you commit. Yeah, but because you don't know your cycle,

612
00:30:53,921 --> 00:30:56,481
Speaker 1: you've booked that for two weeks time, right before your

613
00:30:56,801 --> 00:30:59,441
Speaker 1: period is about to come, and that's the time when

614
00:30:59,441 --> 00:31:03,601
Speaker 1: you're probably feeling the least outward in your whole entire cycle.

615
00:31:03,321 --> 00:31:06,441
Speaker 4: Right literally, So then you get there and you're like shit.

616
00:31:07,601 --> 00:31:09,561
Speaker 1: And then once you can take that a step further

617
00:31:10,401 --> 00:31:13,281
Speaker 1: and start, you know, looking at your cycle as a

618
00:31:13,281 --> 00:31:16,401
Speaker 1: whole and start living in that monthly you know turnover

619
00:31:16,481 --> 00:31:20,881
Speaker 1: instead of in the daily turnover, and start really strategically

620
00:31:21,041 --> 00:31:26,241
Speaker 1: and intentionally placing different tasks in different phases of your cycle,

621
00:31:26,881 --> 00:31:29,761
Speaker 1: you can really optimize it to set yourself up for

622
00:31:29,921 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: like a really smooth transition. And so I guess so

623
00:31:33,561 --> 00:31:37,161
Speaker 1: for people at home who aren't really sure why I'm

624
00:31:37,161 --> 00:31:39,681
Speaker 1: carrying on about the lutill face so much. So in

625
00:31:39,721 --> 00:31:42,881
Speaker 1: the lutill phase, after our hormones hit their peak in ovulation,

626
00:31:44,481 --> 00:31:47,401
Speaker 1: what happens is all I feel good hormones, they just plummet,

627
00:31:47,641 --> 00:31:51,281
Speaker 1: they drop right off, and we're just left like, oh shit,

628
00:31:51,361 --> 00:31:54,121
Speaker 1: this is big void, right, Oh shit, I feel really shit.

629
00:31:54,761 --> 00:31:57,081
Speaker 4: And so to go from.

630
00:31:56,961 --> 00:32:00,081
Speaker 1: One extreme to the other, yeah, it's like one extreme

631
00:32:00,121 --> 00:32:04,321
Speaker 1: to the other really quickly. But they'n our great friend

632
00:32:04,401 --> 00:32:07,601
Speaker 1: progestering comes along. And so this is another thing, right,

633
00:32:07,641 --> 00:32:09,721
Speaker 1: if we're having balances and our progesterone is not really

634
00:32:09,761 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: hitting where it's meant to, it can affect us. But

635
00:32:12,481 --> 00:32:17,241
Speaker 1: our progesterone is skyrockets in this phase, and so it's

636
00:32:17,361 --> 00:32:20,721
Speaker 1: really great hormone. It's an anti anxiety hormone. It helps

637
00:32:20,801 --> 00:32:23,281
Speaker 1: us sleep better. There's all these things that it really

638
00:32:23,281 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: helps support us with. So if you're feeling, you know,

639
00:32:27,881 --> 00:32:31,881
Speaker 1: really anxious and like trying to resist against all these

640
00:32:31,881 --> 00:32:35,081
Speaker 1: things in your you know, luteal phase, you're not sleeping

641
00:32:35,201 --> 00:32:37,081
Speaker 1: enough because we actually do need a little bit more

642
00:32:37,121 --> 00:32:39,881
Speaker 1: sleep in this phase, all those kind of things. That's

643
00:32:39,881 --> 00:32:42,641
Speaker 1: when our body starts to be like, hey, something's not

644
00:32:42,761 --> 00:32:44,961
Speaker 1: right here, and it's going to start giving you signs that.

645
00:32:44,881 --> 00:32:45,761
Speaker 4: It's out of balance.

646
00:32:45,841 --> 00:32:48,681
Speaker 1: So that's superior pain, that's the mood swings, that's all

647
00:32:48,721 --> 00:32:51,841
Speaker 1: those things. So this is again why it's so important

648
00:32:51,881 --> 00:32:54,081
Speaker 1: to listen and go with our body instead of trying

649
00:32:54,081 --> 00:32:56,481
Speaker 1: to resist it. But the thing about the Lout to

650
00:32:56,521 --> 00:32:59,921
Speaker 1: Your phase is actually has a second drop because a progesterone.

651
00:33:00,441 --> 00:33:03,961
Speaker 1: Once our body realizes that hey we haven't we haven't

652
00:33:03,961 --> 00:33:08,041
Speaker 1: given it a baby this cycle, it drops off because

653
00:33:08,081 --> 00:33:10,521
Speaker 1: they don't need it anymore. So there's two really big

654
00:33:10,601 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: drops of hormones in the lot to Your phase. And

655
00:33:13,841 --> 00:33:17,401
Speaker 1: so that's why that phase can feel really rollercoaster, because

656
00:33:17,401 --> 00:33:18,801
Speaker 1: if you look at a chart of the hormones and

657
00:33:18,801 --> 00:33:20,521
Speaker 1: it literally looks like a roller coaster.

658
00:33:20,401 --> 00:33:26,081
Speaker 2: Right, that makes so like, just from a completely evidential,

659
00:33:26,401 --> 00:33:30,601
Speaker 2: from my life standpoint, that makes so much fucking sense.

660
00:33:30,881 --> 00:33:33,401
Speaker 3: Just the double drop, the.

661
00:33:33,361 --> 00:33:36,881
Speaker 2: Double drop, the fun one, just a completely hitch of

662
00:33:36,881 --> 00:33:40,081
Speaker 2: a double drop. I feel that every single I'm like,

663
00:33:40,201 --> 00:33:42,401
Speaker 2: why does this, why does it go forever?

664
00:33:42,681 --> 00:33:44,041
Speaker 3: Why does it feel like there's.

665
00:33:44,801 --> 00:33:47,321
Speaker 1: It is the longest phase, it's the longest phase, and

666
00:33:47,361 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: it does have those two drops, so it can feel

667
00:33:49,761 --> 00:33:52,681
Speaker 1: really hard if we're not setting ourselves up in the

668
00:33:52,721 --> 00:33:56,561
Speaker 1: other phases of our cycle for that for that phase

669
00:33:56,681 --> 00:34:01,281
Speaker 1: and for our bleed and actually in our later louteer

670
00:34:01,321 --> 00:34:04,681
Speaker 1: phase mid to late LOUTI your phase, we actually get

671
00:34:04,761 --> 00:34:07,441
Speaker 1: really productive. And I don't know if you've noticed this,

672
00:34:07,681 --> 00:34:11,521
Speaker 1: but you probably get like similar to that nesting phase

673
00:34:11,561 --> 00:34:14,001
Speaker 1: when you're having a baby, right you want to get

674
00:34:14,041 --> 00:34:16,601
Speaker 1: all this shit done. You're really like, I'm really productive

675
00:34:16,601 --> 00:34:19,441
Speaker 1: and getting all these loose ends tied up, and like,

676
00:34:19,601 --> 00:34:21,481
Speaker 1: I don't know why I've suddenly got this big burst

677
00:34:21,481 --> 00:34:24,601
Speaker 1: of energy and I'm really like getting everything done. And

678
00:34:24,641 --> 00:34:27,321
Speaker 1: that's because your body's naturally doing that so that you

679
00:34:27,361 --> 00:34:28,921
Speaker 1: can start to lean into.

680
00:34:28,721 --> 00:34:30,521
Speaker 4: The rest when you get to your mental phase.

681
00:34:31,801 --> 00:34:35,241
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so if you have some tasks that you've

682
00:34:35,281 --> 00:34:37,401
Speaker 1: you know, started in your inner spring that you're like

683
00:34:37,601 --> 00:34:40,561
Speaker 1: getting those creative ideas and they're really flowing, write down

684
00:34:40,601 --> 00:34:42,681
Speaker 1: the creative ideas and you're in a spring and start

685
00:34:42,761 --> 00:34:45,881
Speaker 1: to execute them. But if there's stuff that you really

686
00:34:45,921 --> 00:34:48,801
Speaker 1: want to get wrapped up, you can sort of send

687
00:34:48,801 --> 00:34:50,761
Speaker 1: that over to the luteal phase and you can start

688
00:34:50,841 --> 00:34:54,761
Speaker 1: using that productivity in that phase to get shit done.

689
00:34:57,241 --> 00:35:01,041
Speaker 2: It's so like even just like rehearing all of this now,

690
00:35:01,321 --> 00:35:04,521
Speaker 2: I can already see, like because one thing I noticed

691
00:35:04,681 --> 00:35:10,361
Speaker 2: is that when I really am moving with my.

692
00:35:10,401 --> 00:35:13,281
Speaker 3: Cycle, like because it is it's like you have this like.

693
00:35:13,201 --> 00:35:17,921
Speaker 2: You know, month ish where if you're if I'm if,

694
00:35:17,921 --> 00:35:20,921
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, flickular comes around and that is

695
00:35:20,961 --> 00:35:24,401
Speaker 2: my just like I'm so motivated, I'm so creative. I

696
00:35:24,481 --> 00:35:26,481
Speaker 2: just want to do all these things. I have all

697
00:35:26,481 --> 00:35:29,401
Speaker 2: these ideas. All of a sudden, I'm making like fifty reels,

698
00:35:30,041 --> 00:35:33,561
Speaker 2: starting a new fucking business, like releasing something new like

699
00:35:33,601 --> 00:35:35,841
Speaker 2: who knows with me, just all sorts of shit. I'm like,

700
00:35:36,001 --> 00:35:39,601
Speaker 2: you know, forty podcast episodes. And then I get to

701
00:35:39,641 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: the ovulation phase and I'm like, wow, I'm so hot,

702
00:35:42,561 --> 00:35:46,561
Speaker 2: I'm so great, lucky me like life is amazing and

703
00:35:46,601 --> 00:35:49,161
Speaker 2: that only lasts three fucking days unfortunately, and then I

704
00:35:49,281 --> 00:35:54,361
Speaker 2: just start going into my like spiral, spiral, spiral up,

705
00:35:54,401 --> 00:35:59,041
Speaker 2: a little bit, double spiral, second spiral, and if I

706
00:35:59,281 --> 00:36:05,081
Speaker 2: am not resting enough, because that's something that I I

707
00:36:05,121 --> 00:36:08,801
Speaker 2: struggle with, is rest and so as someone who struggles

708
00:36:08,841 --> 00:36:15,321
Speaker 2: with resting or stopping, and that's like I still struggle

709
00:36:15,361 --> 00:36:17,601
Speaker 2: with that even though I'm like, I need to do this,

710
00:36:18,001 --> 00:36:21,721
Speaker 2: but when I do actually do it and listen to it,

711
00:36:22,561 --> 00:36:26,561
Speaker 2: my actual period hurts less. And as someone who gets

712
00:36:26,681 --> 00:36:32,281
Speaker 2: very very painful cycles and has endometriosis, that's crazy. They

713
00:36:32,361 --> 00:36:37,521
Speaker 2: are lighter, they aren't as intense. I don't feel as

714
00:36:37,881 --> 00:36:41,121
Speaker 2: shit house just and then it like sets me up

715
00:36:41,121 --> 00:36:43,641
Speaker 2: for the next cycle. If I've within that month have

716
00:36:43,801 --> 00:36:49,161
Speaker 2: had a really emotional, crazy lots of things happening coming

717
00:36:49,281 --> 00:36:52,441
Speaker 2: up kind of month, my actual.

718
00:36:52,161 --> 00:36:54,721
Speaker 3: Period, my bleed will reflect that.

719
00:36:55,361 --> 00:36:56,801
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything about.

720
00:36:56,601 --> 00:37:00,201
Speaker 2: Like it's so interesting, Like it's so fascinating to me,

721
00:37:00,721 --> 00:37:05,961
Speaker 2: even like I also find if I'm using campons instead

722
00:37:05,961 --> 00:37:08,641
Speaker 2: of a menstrual cup, I notice the difference in my

723
00:37:08,961 --> 00:37:12,321
Speaker 2: entire cycle, and then like what happens the next time,

724
00:37:12,481 --> 00:37:17,241
Speaker 2: Like just these little things that you think are so insignificant,

725
00:37:17,921 --> 00:37:20,721
Speaker 2: but once you are like listening to your body that

726
00:37:20,881 --> 00:37:24,481
Speaker 2: dramatically all of a sudden, it's like, well, it's telling

727
00:37:24,521 --> 00:37:28,921
Speaker 2: me everything. Like it literally is just this final thing

728
00:37:28,961 --> 00:37:31,121
Speaker 2: where it's like, let's just reflect.

729
00:37:30,761 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: On the month that we've just had.

730
00:37:33,001 --> 00:37:35,961
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're tracking your cycle and you're really you

731
00:37:36,121 --> 00:37:40,361
Speaker 2: know your cycle really well, it narrows down what could

732
00:37:40,481 --> 00:37:44,121
Speaker 2: like what's not clicking? Where where am I like, you know,

733
00:37:44,321 --> 00:37:47,481
Speaker 2: not feeling okay, And like it gives you such an

734
00:37:47,481 --> 00:37:50,961
Speaker 2: indication of like which hormones might be out of fucking whack,

735
00:37:51,441 --> 00:37:55,521
Speaker 2: what could be possibly going on? Like that's like something

736
00:37:55,521 --> 00:37:57,721
Speaker 2: that I've even learned so much about it. It's just helped

737
00:37:57,801 --> 00:37:58,841
Speaker 2: narrow things down.

738
00:37:59,481 --> 00:38:01,921
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like it's so important like to have

739
00:38:02,001 --> 00:38:04,241
Speaker 1: that information to be able to take to say like

740
00:38:04,281 --> 00:38:08,281
Speaker 1: your doctor or your specialist or your natural path or

741
00:38:08,321 --> 00:38:10,561
Speaker 1: you know, whatever you're doing as well to help you know,

742
00:38:10,721 --> 00:38:13,721
Speaker 1: balance your hormones or you know, whatever you're.

743
00:38:13,561 --> 00:38:17,641
Speaker 4: Doing with that. It's it's invaluable information for them as well.

744
00:38:18,401 --> 00:38:19,561
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, on.

745
00:38:21,161 --> 00:38:24,881
Speaker 2: What it's something that you like because we should will

746
00:38:24,881 --> 00:38:27,921
Speaker 2: start we'll start wrapping up for people. And I feel

747
00:38:27,961 --> 00:38:29,561
Speaker 2: like we could do another episode in this and we

748
00:38:29,561 --> 00:38:31,241
Speaker 2: could talk about so many more things.

749
00:38:32,001 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: We could talk for years about it.

750
00:38:34,161 --> 00:38:39,841
Speaker 2: But what is like one bit of wisdom, guidance, information,

751
00:38:40,161 --> 00:38:44,521
Speaker 2: something that you feel like you really want, not even

752
00:38:44,641 --> 00:38:47,761
Speaker 2: just women, because like I'm hoping that there will be

753
00:38:47,801 --> 00:38:51,521
Speaker 2: people listening to this who aren't bleeding and aren't menstruating

754
00:38:51,601 --> 00:38:54,881
Speaker 2: and they're learning because it's important for everyone to learn.

755
00:38:55,721 --> 00:38:58,601
Speaker 3: What do you think is you're parting with?

756
00:38:59,881 --> 00:39:02,241
Speaker 1: Well, coming off the back of that, the thing I've

757
00:39:02,281 --> 00:39:06,081
Speaker 1: been thinking about a lot lately is how do we

758
00:39:06,161 --> 00:39:09,641
Speaker 1: break this shame and taboo cycle?

759
00:39:09,841 --> 00:39:10,921
Speaker 4: Like? How do we break that?

760
00:39:11,961 --> 00:39:14,641
Speaker 1: How can I make sure that my kids are not

761
00:39:14,881 --> 00:39:17,681
Speaker 1: having to go through this shit storm to get to

762
00:39:17,721 --> 00:39:20,001
Speaker 1: the point where we are now, where we understand how

763
00:39:20,001 --> 00:39:24,521
Speaker 1: our bodies work on a foundational way. And I think

764
00:39:24,641 --> 00:39:27,041
Speaker 1: you know the answer is always going to be that

765
00:39:27,081 --> 00:39:30,161
Speaker 1: it starts with you. If you haven't dealt with your

766
00:39:30,201 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: own shame and trauma taboo around your cycle, you're going.

767
00:39:35,921 --> 00:39:37,041
Speaker 4: To pass it on to your kids.

768
00:39:37,081 --> 00:39:39,041
Speaker 1: It's just a fact, Like you're just going to part

769
00:39:39,081 --> 00:39:41,761
Speaker 1: That's what's going to happen if you're hiding the fact

770
00:39:41,761 --> 00:39:44,481
Speaker 1: that you bleed every month, if you're not educating your

771
00:39:44,601 --> 00:39:47,481
Speaker 1: sons that there's a such thing as a period, right, Like,

772
00:39:47,521 --> 00:39:51,241
Speaker 1: my partner was one of two three boys, and so

773
00:39:51,401 --> 00:39:54,121
Speaker 1: he had no fucking idea about what cycles were. They

774
00:39:54,161 --> 00:39:57,721
Speaker 1: were like this big mysterious thing and so like obviously

775
00:39:57,761 --> 00:40:01,521
Speaker 1: it's very educated now, but he had no idea. And

776
00:40:01,561 --> 00:40:03,681
Speaker 1: then like then we had a daughter, and so like

777
00:40:04,281 --> 00:40:05,281
Speaker 1: God forbid anyf thing.

778
00:40:05,201 --> 00:40:07,201
Speaker 4: Happens to me, Who's going to teach her? You know?

779
00:40:08,481 --> 00:40:13,281
Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of people are wondering,

780
00:40:13,481 --> 00:40:16,041
Speaker 1: you know, how do I do that? How do I

781
00:40:16,081 --> 00:40:18,201
Speaker 1: break this cycle? And it starts with you learn it

782
00:40:18,241 --> 00:40:23,761
Speaker 1: for yourself, learn how to you know, regulate your own cycle.

783
00:40:24,481 --> 00:40:27,881
Speaker 1: For so many reasons, stop being the cranky mom. You

784
00:40:27,921 --> 00:40:30,761
Speaker 1: can stop having blaming the mood swings and you know,

785
00:40:31,161 --> 00:40:34,121
Speaker 1: putting them out onto everyone else. You can have, you know,

786
00:40:34,521 --> 00:40:36,961
Speaker 1: a relatively pain free cycle.

787
00:40:37,121 --> 00:40:38,361
Speaker 4: There's so many benefits to it.

788
00:40:38,401 --> 00:40:42,321
Speaker 1: But the number one benefit for me is that our

789
00:40:42,401 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: children are going to just have this information to go

790
00:40:47,041 --> 00:40:49,161
Speaker 1: and do what they please with, but they're going to

791
00:40:49,241 --> 00:40:52,321
Speaker 1: have it and they're never going to feel embarrassed about

792
00:40:52,321 --> 00:40:55,241
Speaker 1: their bodies. And that's so powerful. That's like the most

793
00:40:55,281 --> 00:40:57,961
Speaker 1: powerful thing to me, not to be ashamed of our

794
00:40:57,961 --> 00:41:02,281
Speaker 1: bodies and to have the education and information around how

795
00:41:02,321 --> 00:41:03,281
Speaker 1: they actually work.

796
00:41:04,041 --> 00:41:06,601
Speaker 3: Oh, Mike could not agree more.

797
00:41:06,641 --> 00:41:09,321
Speaker 2: And that was a big reason why I was wanted

798
00:41:09,361 --> 00:41:11,961
Speaker 2: to learn, because I was like, I'm not gonna be

799
00:41:12,001 --> 00:41:14,281
Speaker 2: able to teach my kids shit because I have no idea.

800
00:41:14,401 --> 00:41:15,641
Speaker 3: I don't even know for myself.

801
00:41:15,681 --> 00:41:19,321
Speaker 2: So how on earth am I supposed to expect chrips

802
00:41:19,761 --> 00:41:22,121
Speaker 2: who also grew up in a home where they didn't

803
00:41:22,121 --> 00:41:24,921
Speaker 2: talk about it to know anything. If I don't even know,

804
00:41:24,961 --> 00:41:26,961
Speaker 2: and I grew up in a house full of girls,

805
00:41:27,521 --> 00:41:29,921
Speaker 2: how how are my kids supposed to know anything about

806
00:41:29,961 --> 00:41:33,281
Speaker 2: their bodies or his sister's bodies, or your friends or

807
00:41:33,281 --> 00:41:36,121
Speaker 2: friends or whoever's bodies if I don't even know.

808
00:41:36,601 --> 00:41:37,241
Speaker 4: So I love that.

809
00:41:37,321 --> 00:41:38,561
Speaker 3: I think that's so important.

810
00:41:39,201 --> 00:41:42,081
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Beck for coming and chatting

811
00:41:42,121 --> 00:41:44,881
Speaker 2: with me, oh the village crazy lady. Thanks for having

812
00:41:44,921 --> 00:41:48,041
Speaker 2: me or the crazies. How can people find you? I'm

813
00:41:48,041 --> 00:41:50,041
Speaker 2: gonna put everything in the show notes and all the

814
00:41:51,401 --> 00:41:54,481
Speaker 2: cycle tracker and everything, but yeah.

815
00:41:54,041 --> 00:41:55,721
Speaker 4: So just come over onto Instagram.

816
00:41:55,801 --> 00:41:59,041
Speaker 1: I'm at the period dot coach and we can yeah

817
00:41:59,081 --> 00:41:59,521
Speaker 1: chat there.

818
00:42:00,361 --> 00:42:02,321
Speaker 3: Amazing. Thank you so much.

819
00:42:03,361 --> 00:42:06,681
Speaker 2: Bye bye bye