1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: On scoring lives Ostrodia. This is the Wader Panety Show. 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Patty Show. Coming 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: up tonight, school children, as the youngest four will be 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: forced to learn about the enduring harm of colonization. Patrick 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: Carline and Clairo will join me shortlea to discuss that 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: and much more. Reports the deepening youth crime crisis and 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: Victoria has seen some migrants send their children back to 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: Africa because Melbourne is too dangerous. Gun reporter Carlie Douglas 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: will join me shortly. Kosher Gator will have the latest 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: from the US so later in the hour the always 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: roll Alex Stein will be here and you will not 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: believe what he's been up to this week. And Left 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: is losing It goes to the great outdoors tonight. 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: Didn't adopt them, you didn't save their lives. You don't 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: care about them, You don't care about anyone who. 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 4: You are a crazy lady. 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: Get away from me, that get away from you. But first. 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: Further details of the treaty between the Allen government and 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: the First People's Assembly of Victoria have been revealed. The 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: headline commitment being a Victorian Indigenous Council similar to the 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: federal government's failed Voice to Parliament. It will be called 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: Geelong Wall and it will have access to seventy million 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: dollars in taxpayer funds every year. The Allen Labor government 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: has also agreed to rename geographical features across the stage, 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: give public servants retraining to become culturally capable and embedded indigenous. 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: So called truth telling I grievance politics into the Victorian 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: school curriculum for students from prep from prep to year ten. 28 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: Joining me now is the panel Newscort senior writer Patrick 29 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: Carline and Sky News contributor and leading child psychologist Claire Row. Claire, 30 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: four and five year old children being hit with so 31 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: called truth telling, told about the enduring harm of colonization. 32 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: I mean, what could go wrong? 33 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 5: What could go wrong? 34 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 6: Well, what could go wrong is that we're going to 35 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 6: be to where we are already turning out generations of 36 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 6: Australians who are guilt ridden and feel shame for being Australian. 37 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 6: And I've written before I absolutely think that shame in 38 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 6: one's nation is linked to poor mental health. At the 39 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 6: end of the day, we are pack mammals and I 40 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 6: think it serves us work very well to have pride 41 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 6: in our group and in our country. We're turning out 42 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 6: kids who absolutely wouldn't defend this country if they were 43 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 6: caught upon it, let alone, you know, wave an Australian flag. 44 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 6: And as you said, you know, four to five year olds, 45 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 6: certainly preschoolers at least in New South Wales are being 46 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 6: taught this stuff and parents are already complaining. But parents 47 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 6: need to know what's going on. And I think that 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 6: that's really important is that a lot of parents aren't 49 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 6: aware just how insidious this curriculum is. 50 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: Patrick. I'm sure we had a vote not too long ago, 51 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: a referendum where a clear majority of Australians, including a 52 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: majority of Victorians, voted no to the sort of racial 53 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: division we're talking about, the sort of racial privilege you 54 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: could say that is being afforded to just one group 55 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: of people in the state. 56 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: Well, that's the problem here, Rita. 57 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 7: I mean, you're looking at sixty five thousand Victorians and 58 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 7: their needs and desires been put above the other seven 59 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 7: million Victorians. That this process has been going on since 60 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 7: twenty sixteen, I believe it's mostly been done in secret. 61 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 7: It's sort of ideology by stealth. If you like it's 62 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 7: cost seven hundred million bucks according to the IPA. Where 63 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 7: is the ground swell sort of demanding this change? And 64 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 7: I mean the big problem with the Voice was it 65 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 7: was sort of the notion that it was going to 66 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 7: be a third chamber of Parliament. What this treaty looks 67 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 7: like at this stage is a third chamber of Parliament. 68 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: That's exactly nically what we told wasn't going to happen 69 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: is happening. And we didn't get a vote on this. 70 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: Do we even know if the majority of the Indigenous 71 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: community patrick are backing this because you look at who's 72 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: voted for the Voice, and it seems the participation rate 73 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: is particularly low if you. 74 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 7: Look at the Voice breakdown of votes. I mean, even 75 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 7: in those remote Indigenous communities, it wasn't strongly supported. People 76 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 7: don't believe it's going to look. The big thing for 77 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 7: most people, I think, is closing the gap. That's a practical, 78 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 7: tangible measure of improving things a treaty. No one has 79 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 7: explained how a treaty or provided evidence how a treaty is. 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Actually going to close that gap. 81 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 7: I mean, it's basically trying to right the wrongs of 82 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 7: the past, but it seems to be very liable to 83 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 7: creating more problems in the future. 84 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: Now, the fallout continues from Senator just into Nampagen prices 85 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: comments about the level of migration to Australia and the 86 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: voting patterns of one particular group, Indian born voters, and 87 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: labor is an uproar about it. Just Enterprise really was 88 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: quoting a labor polster there. She she was referring to 89 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: data that was shared by Cos Samaris. But the ABC 90 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: is keen to whip up all sorts of racial division 91 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: and fear. Just have a look at this. 92 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 4: She should definitely apologize, she should. 93 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: We are really broken. 94 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 8: It to influenced the racism also against you know, our 95 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 8: people from our subpontinent. 96 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: If what just enter Price said about Indian migrants Patrick 97 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: was so hurtful, so offensive, then why wasn't it hurtful 98 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: and offensive when a labor polster said it. Now you 99 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: could say his information was incorrect, but you've got someone 100 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: who's very credible who should know about this sort of thing, 101 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: And he said eighty five percent or thereabouts of Indian 102 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: migrants voted for at the last federal election. 103 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 1: Look, I mean, look, that's a fair point. 104 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 7: I think it was an ill advising to say, and 105 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 7: I think it should have been handled in a way 106 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 7: that's been much better than it has been handled, I think, 107 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 7: just since the Price tried to clarify it on Sunday 108 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 7: soon after she said it, but you saw this internal 109 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 7: war breakout within the Liberal Party about whether she should 110 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 7: apologize and whether this person said the right thing or 111 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 7: said the wrong thing, and it's become instead of just 112 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 7: being an error of judgment, if you like, putting aside 113 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 7: whether it's factual or not, it was always going to 114 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 7: be weaponized politically. It should have been put to bed 115 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 7: on Sunday within the Liberal Party, and I think that's 116 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 7: where an error has become a catastrophic error in terms 117 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 7: of pr They should never have been allowed to happen. 118 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: Clercy, I don't see this as an error. I think 119 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: this is something that we should be able to talk 120 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: about without people losing their minds, without the members of 121 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: the Liberal Party wedding the bed again. We've had enormous numbers, 122 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: record numbers come in in recent years, and if that 123 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: data is incorrect, that we've got a group with total 124 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: almost a million and eighty five percent of voting. One 125 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: way that is something that is worthy of discussion. It 126 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: doesn't mean you condemn that community. It's not that you 127 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: don't stop migration from that country, but it's something that 128 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: you should be able to talk about without cries of racism. 129 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. Look, I agree, there's a couple of things. 130 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 6: I do think it is a little bit of a 131 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 6: storm in a teacup if we can't, as you say, 132 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 6: lay out some facts here without worrying about kind of 133 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 6: offending voters. They were in a dark place. But with 134 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 6: the growing amount of Indians who are in Australia, I 135 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 6: would have thought that we do actually need to appeal 136 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 6: to them as the coalition, and I would have thought 137 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 6: that along with people like the Chinese community, if the 138 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 6: Coalition actually returned to some strong conservative values, they are 139 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 6: actually typically conservative voters. If we return back to supporting 140 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 6: more businesses, entrepreneurs are conservative family value traditional families. 141 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 5: But again, all this. 142 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 6: Has done actually is probably make these communities a little 143 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 6: bit wary and a little bit untrusting of the Coalition 144 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 6: thinking that they are anti migrant so yes, and and 145 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 6: also of course highlighting division within the party. Now as 146 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 6: Susan Lee gets out and spends time in the Indian 147 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 6: community and Julian Lesser bends over apologizing and it's actually 148 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 6: just displaying the internal divisions. 149 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: Yes, the charm offensive, the charmless charm offensive from Susan Lee. Really, 150 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: you're right though, this is a failure of the Liberal 151 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: party to effectively communicate with these voters and win them 152 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: over because they are overwhelmingly socially conservative, They are hugely aspirational. 153 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: They should be natural conservative voters, but the conservative politicians 154 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: in this country are so gutless that they are failing 155 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: to appeal to them. And I think Donald Trump proved 156 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: there was someone who has been painted as an anti 157 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: migrant and racist. He's won over record numbers of Latino voters, 158 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: did incredibly well with migrant groups, including Asian voters, because 159 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: he gave them the policies they want. So that's the key. 160 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: The policies is what they care about, just like every 161 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: other voter. Now, the Prime Minister, he's feeling very comfortable 162 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: because he's spending his time doing stuff like this. Look 163 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 2: at this cringe worthy attempt to appeal to young voters. 164 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, are you to seeing me? 165 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: No, silly? 166 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: I go here, you go where Hervard Law School? 167 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 4: You get into Harvard Law. 168 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 2: Wait like it's horror, Claire, you work with young people. 169 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: Explain what's happening there. Some of our viewers may be confused. 170 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 5: Oh that is so cringe. 171 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 6: I mean, is this the statesman we want leading the country? 172 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 5: Look? 173 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 6: As Albo put it, he's trying to cross the generational bridge. 174 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 5: I work with young people every day. 175 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 6: I'm telling you, if I walked into a room and 176 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 6: replicated their language, I would not get any street cred. 177 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 6: They would look at me like the middle aged woman 178 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 6: that I am trying to emulate them, and I would 179 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 6: come off as a very, very try hard And there's 180 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 6: a reason every generation of young people has their own 181 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 6: language and their own words that I don't understand now, 182 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 6: because they're trying to differentiate themselves from old people. They 183 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 6: don't want old people coming into that world and using 184 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 6: the same language. So no, I don't think he's learned 185 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 6: anything from the Abby Chatfield days. And it's just really 186 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 6: cringe and very difficult to watch. 187 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: Yes, that podcast was ill advised, and this latest podcast 188 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 2: is called Happy Hour with Lucy and Nikki and the 189 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 2: Prime Minister leaned into that gen Z slang and use 190 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: terms like shrekking pick me girl and touch grass. Na 191 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: Patrick The Daily Telly has kindly provided definitions for us. 192 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: So Shreking refers to when someone is what does it 193 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: mean when someone. 194 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: Lower their standards? 195 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: That's it? Thank you, thank you? I can't even remember. 196 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: Pick Me girl is a label for a woman who 197 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: seeks validation by putting other women down. Pick me girl 198 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: has got other connotations as well, even I know that one. 199 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: And touch grass means to tell someone to get a 200 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: reality check or sometimes just go outside literally and touch grass. 201 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: Do you feel like speaking the language of young folk 202 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: brings them into the fold and gets them interested in politics? 203 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: Not at all. 204 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 7: No, I don't understand what any of those things mean. 205 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 7: And if I try to use any of those words, 206 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 7: it's in my house I would be rightly shut down 207 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 7: very quickly. That language doesn't belong to me. It doesn't 208 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 7: belong to Elbert, it doesn't belong to anyone over the 209 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 7: age of twenty five. It's it's not our language, is 210 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 7: clear said, and anyone who tries to sort of invoke 211 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 7: it to try and seem cool actually has the opposite effect, 212 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 7: don't they. 213 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 2: It does. I've got to say, though, now that I've 214 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: reread what shrekking means I kind of like the term 215 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: someone who you lowered your standards for still ends up 216 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: hurting you. No, that's I think that that a. 217 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 5: Verb introduce That Is that a verb? Treking? 218 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: I think it's a Yeah, it's a verb. I think 219 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 2: it just speaks of failure and needing to do better, Claire. 220 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: So that's I don't mind that one. Now, let's go 221 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: to these startling revelations about the killer of James Bolger, 222 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: the British toddler who was viciously murdered one of his 223 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 2: young killers. Young at the time it was only ten 224 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 2: years old. Apparently now lives in Australia and is living 225 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: as a woman. Claire, Why are we becoming a dumping 226 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: ground for these crims? I've surely our convict days are 227 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: well and truly over, I thought. 228 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 6: So here's just a story I think that makes you WinCE. 229 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 6: I can't think of another word or shudder. Look, I 230 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 6: wouldn't blame anyone who's been a notorious convicted murderer to 231 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 6: change their identity, change their name and move to the 232 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 6: other side of the world. You probably would if that 233 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 6: was you. These are claims made by a relative of 234 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 6: his at the end of the day, if the claim 235 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 6: is a convicted murderer now identifying as a woman is 236 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 6: working in childcare in Australia, well, I hope this goes 237 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 6: beyond I suppose media headline and is absolutely forensically investigated 238 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 6: because as you know, of all the problems that we 239 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 6: have had in childcare at the moment, I am meeting 240 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 6: parents every day who are doing everything they can to 241 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 6: pull their children out of that sector. And so yeah, look, 242 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 6: I don't want to sensationalize it more than these are 243 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 6: the allegations that have been made, but I suppose it 244 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 6: leads to a broader conversation about transparency and we need 245 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 6: to know if there's a convicted murderer living amongst us 246 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 6: who's changed their identity. 247 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 5: That doesn't change history. 248 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 6: Of course, you can change your name and identity, it 249 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 6: doesn't change what's happened. And it's now working with children, 250 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 6: we need to know about it. 251 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: Yes, his name was Robert Thompson Patrick, but he was 252 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: given a new identity and anonymity obviously moved to Australia. 253 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: And now if these reports are accurate and he's living 254 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: as a woman and working in childcare, Claire's right people 255 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: are entitled to know, particularly given what we've learned in 256 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: recent months about that sector. 257 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: Claire is absolutely right. 258 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 7: I mean, this childcare aspect to this suggestion is horrifying 259 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 7: given the current climate and the fact that we've had 260 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 7: monsters get into childcare and hurt kids. If you reread 261 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 7: that crime back in nineteen ninety three what actually happened, 262 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 7: it's one of the worst single crimes you can think. 263 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: Of in the last fifty years. 264 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 7: Definitely, you can't get past the fact that was so 265 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 7: evil and the idea that one of those perpetrators is 266 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 7: anywhere near any children now is utterly horrifying. 267 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: It is Normally if it was someone that young, you 268 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: would say, okay, as an adult, maybe they're completely changed, 269 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: maybe they didn't know what they were doing. But the 270 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: brutality of that crime, the way that poor little boy 271 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: was tortured and what they put him through, it is 272 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: just so depraved that, yeah, once you read about it, 273 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: it stays with you and I'm mightily concerned if this 274 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: character is an Australia now. Patrick Carl and Clairo thank 275 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: you both for your time. Now to Victoria's youth crime 276 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: crisis and the Herald Son's Front page Splash Today reveals 277 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: that terrified African migrants are sending their children back to Africa, 278 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: where they say it's safer, because Melbourne is now too dangerous. 279 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: Multicultural leaders have worn that things will only get worse 280 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: if violent gangs are allowed to further infiltrate Melbourne's Western 281 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: and Ata Southeastern suburbs. Amid a series of horrific attacks 282 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: over the weekend, two African boys aged fifteen and twelve 283 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: were hacked to death by a machette wielding gang near 284 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: Melton on Saturday night. The young boys were on their 285 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: way home from a lo called Basketball Stadium when they 286 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: were ambush and what police say may have been a 287 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: case of mistaken identity. Police have labeled the murders as 288 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: one of the most horrific crimes in a substantial and 289 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: growing list of crimes of this nature. First responders were 290 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: traumatized by the horrific scenes that confronted them. Joining me 291 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: now is the author of that front page splash Erreld 292 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: Sun reporter Karlie Douglas, Carli, you've covered these stories. How 293 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: bad is this crisis in Victoria to have a twelve 294 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: year old, a fifteen year old hacked to death in 295 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: the street. It's almost unimaginable. 296 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 9: Crime is clearly out of control in Victoria and this 297 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 9: is a clear escalation in this sort of machete violence 298 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 9: that we're seeing on the streets. We have seen machetes 299 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 9: being used across Melbourne for months, if not years, and 300 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 9: the government has been trying to crack down, but it 301 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 9: is escalating. We saw a man have his arm almost 302 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 9: completely severed off only a few weeks ago at a 303 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 9: shopping center. It seems in Victoria we wake up to 304 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 9: a new home invasion, car jacking, murder almost every single day. 305 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: Yes, there's machete bands and bins, aren't exacts having the 306 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: desired effect. Now we've got community leaders saying that parents 307 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: are so desperate and so terrified for their kids that 308 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: they're sending them back to countries like Uganda and Kenya 309 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: and other African countries because they deemed them safer than Melbourne. 310 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 9: It's absolutely wild, but that is exactly what these community 311 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 9: leaders are telling me. They're saying that young migrant boys 312 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 9: that are getting caught up in the wrong crowd are 313 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 9: being threatened. They're being told that they could be stabbed 314 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 9: to death, saying the wrong thing and their parents so 315 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 9: terrified that they will not come home at night, that 316 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 9: they are sending them back to Africa to these boarding 317 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 9: schools to keep them away from the youth crime crisis. 318 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: It's just incredible that you that that is happening, and 319 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: for so long in this state, there's been a denial 320 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 2: about the fact that we do have a gang issue, 321 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: African gang issue, the fact that we've got particular community 322 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: groups that are overrepresented in the crime statistics. Is there 323 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: some acceptance now by the just into Alan government that 324 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: this issue is real and it needs to be addressed 325 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: in a meaningful way. 326 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 9: The premiers definitely recognize that there is a youth gang problem, 327 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 9: and she has decided today or yesterday in a statement 328 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 9: to convene a Sudanese leader working group. However, that group 329 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 9: has actually been operating since twenty twenty two, and she 330 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 9: conceded today that these issues have been looked at since then. 331 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: There have been other changes. 332 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 9: There are new bail laws, tough and bail laws that 333 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 9: have come in and this machete ban you mentioned earlier, 334 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 9: but we're yet to see whether that will have the 335 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 9: effect that is necessary. 336 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 5: That is needed. 337 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 9: The Premier today though said she is open to other 338 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 9: legal reforms, So we'll have to wait, say, well, what will. 339 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: Those legal reforms look like, because it seems to be 340 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: just more of the same. It's creating committees and making 341 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: promises and having these ridiculous bans, but they're not reducing 342 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: the crime, reducing the level of violence of these crimes. 343 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: Is she going to seriously be introducing things like mandatory 344 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: sentences so these kids know if we're involved in a 345 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: home invasion there is no bail, we're going to be 346 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: going away for at least twelve months, at least eighteen months. 347 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 2: So I don't know there's some sort of a deterrence 348 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: at least. 349 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not sure the messaging is getting through yet. 350 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 9: These machete band ads have been going on. They've been 351 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 9: I guess, out into social media in the last few weeks. 352 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if. 353 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 9: They're really cutting through they will. I think there probably 354 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 9: needs to be more of a targeting of these young 355 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 9: kids online. 356 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: I would suggest that kids who run around with machetes 357 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: that are threatening people, invading people's homes, threatening each other, 358 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: or actually engaging in violence, they're not going to be 359 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: too worried about a machete bank they're not going to 360 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: be worried too worried about I'm in possession of a 361 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: band item. I mean, it just seems to be a 362 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: so naive to be introducing these laws and expecting hardened 363 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: criminals and some of these young kids are hard and 364 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 2: criminals because their rap sheets are long and ugly, that 365 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: they're going to be terrified into handing in their machetes 366 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: and becoming lawful citizens. 367 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 9: The government has faced a lot of criticism in the 368 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 9: last few weeks about the machete bins and whether people 369 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 9: will I've been asking for the past week how many 370 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 9: machetes have actually been handed in and I'm yet to 371 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 9: get an answer, so we will see. 372 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: Well, this is what we need to know, just exactly 373 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: how many machetes have been handed And I bet the 374 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: ones that I've been handed in are by honest folks 375 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 2: who use them, I don't know, in the backyard or something. 376 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: And now they need to find a new implement before 377 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: you go on. This crime that occurred over the weekend. 378 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: I mean, even by Victorian standards, this was absolutely shocking 379 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: to have a twelve year old, a child, not even 380 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: a teenager, killed in the most terrific manner on the 381 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 2: street just walking home from the basketball It's been the 382 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: community response and what have police been telling you about 383 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: this crime. 384 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 9: The community, the Sudanese community specifically is absolutely reeling. This 385 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 9: is in the western suburbs and in the southeastern suburbs 386 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 9: as well. They have told me that they are so 387 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 9: frustrated that this there hasn't been a crackdown earlier. They 388 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 9: are so worried that their child will be next. As 389 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 9: you said earlier that one of these leaders told me 390 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 9: this is just the start. We will see more children killed, 391 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 9: which is horrific to think that that is happening in Melbourne. 392 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: And the police saying it could have even been a 393 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: case of mistaken identity with these two. 394 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 9: Ky Yes, there has been some reports today that there 395 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 9: is potentially one of the kids had posted a meme 396 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 9: on social media in a group chat and that might 397 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 9: have sparked a backlash. I think we've got more information 398 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 9: that needs to come out. 399 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 2: Kylie Douglas, Thank you so much for your time. 400 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 5: Thank you reader. 401 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: Still to come. Matt Lefty is losing it. Plus the 402 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: latest from the US, including the media doubling down on 403 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: their failure to cover a shopping story kosherator has the details. 404 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: Welcome back, It's time for left he's losing it. Now. 405 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 2: Imagine you are in the great outdoors, enjoying the fresh air, 406 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: enjoying the scenery, taking your dogs for a walk, when 407 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: this happens. 408 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: You didn't adopt them, You didn't save their lives. 409 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 5: You don't care about them, You don't care about anyone. 410 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 4: But you are a crazy lady. 411 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 3: Get away from the get away from me. 412 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: Oh dear all that because that poor guy had pure 413 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: bred dogs. So she was triggered because they weren't adopted, 414 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 2: she assumed. Now if you thought that woman had exhausted 415 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: her reserves of crazy and indignant rage, well you'd be wrong. 416 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: So so wrong are you ing to? 417 00:23:54,880 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 4: They touch me, I will knock you out. Well, you 418 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 4: attack me, I have a right to defend myself. 419 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 5: Okay, this get away from me. 420 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: Now, this guy is harassing me. I look at his 421 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: bread dogs. Look at what at unethical piece of this 422 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: that's his mom. He has to have a bread dogs 423 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: because he has a small penis. You know when people 424 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: act that crazy act, that weird one of shoes that 425 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: they're on something kind of how I felt when I 426 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: saw this resurfaced vision of California Governor Gavin Newsom. 427 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 10: We've had I've been on a journey like most people, 428 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 10: feeling great, feeling stressed. 429 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 4: Feeling doubtful the last two days. 430 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. 431 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 5: I think it's maybe the. 432 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: Best settling after Madison spent see how that went. I 433 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 4: can have a roller coaster sometime in the last few days. 434 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 10: And I'm telling you that to moin registered for and 435 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 10: young men, where Trump has put so. 436 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 11: Much time and energy and the sort of the broke 437 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 11: culture pocket everything else. 438 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 4: They don't vote at those numbers. And I think suburban 439 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 4: women like women generally, and I think it's reflective. Perhaps 440 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 4: in that book there's some for going on. 441 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: There was something going on, or ride good Lord, do 442 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: take it easy on the disco truths, as the kids say. 443 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: Now to a young woman who is certain Charlie kirk 444 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 2: is a fascist and is not entitled to speak at 445 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: her campus, just don't ask her what makes him a 446 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: fascist or even what a fascist is. She's not good 447 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: at talking or thinking. We don't want Charlie Kroklan our campus. 448 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 4: We don't want fascists on her campus. We don't want 449 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 4: to support. 450 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: That here fascination. 451 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 11: I don't know. 452 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 4: I'm not like a political scientist. 453 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: I'm not good at interviews. 454 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 4: She should ask someone else. 455 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: Now, somehow we overlook this charmer. Earlier in the year, 456 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: here is a lefty lady losing it because a Christian 457 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: preacher dared to hold and share views she disagreed with. 458 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 5: You pissed me. 459 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 4: I forgot you don't belong here. 460 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 12: That's hateful, doesn't belong here, and all of y'all don't 461 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 12: believe it. 462 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: Get your path on strength. 463 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 13: You are reason why we are falling apart of the country. 464 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 5: Yes, and I don't want to hear. How do you know 465 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 5: the percentage of that happened? 466 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 14: Happens every freaking day. 467 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 4: I don't want that doesn't matter. You came when you 468 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 4: came to me. We're in a public area, okay, So 469 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 4: should I break your camera there? 470 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: Give me a break. 471 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: They always resort to violence or threats of violence stone 472 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: they Let's give this lovely less another chance, though I'm 473 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: sure she could make an argument without resorting to threats 474 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: and violence. He should tells a Christian preacher he's not 475 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: really Christian because he's against abortion. 476 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 5: And I have no problem with Christians that actually act 477 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 5: like Christians. That's not acting. How have I not been 478 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 5: acting like Christians? You've been coming here yelling at me. 479 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 5: You're anti abortion? For one, It has nothing to do 480 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 5: with you. Are you a woman? 481 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: No? 482 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 5: Do you have a haven't done in twenty twenty five? 483 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: I could identify as him. 484 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 5: You wouldn't be able to tell me otherwise. Oh so 485 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 5: you're anti trance? You just told me that. 486 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: Anyways, Anyways, I'm just gonna start. 487 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm just gonna go. 488 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: You want to go to jail. 489 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 2: Now? This next ad has upset a few snowflakes. I 490 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 2: can't imagine why. It's wholesome stuff. It's pretty inoffensive, and 491 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 2: possibly it's going to boost church attendance. Maybe that's why 492 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: they hate it. 493 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: On prayers do get answered? See you at Saint John's. 494 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 2: Time to check in with Democrat Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, who 495 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: is for some reason dressed like Princeia, and she wants 496 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: you to know that she is a very serious lawmaker. 497 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: But she's also ready to throw her hands. 498 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 12: I know every day I walk in the hall, regardless 499 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 12: of whatever rhetoric they put out about me, I am a. 500 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: Very serious lawman. At the same. 501 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: Time, right, why. 502 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: The night, I am truly a black woman. At the 503 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: same time, here Jasmine shows us what a serious thinker 504 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: she is. She says this out lad on television, that 505 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 2: law enforcement isn't there to prevent crimes. It's hard to 506 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: fathom how idiotic this is, but it's Jasmine. 507 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 12: Law enforcement isn't to prevent crime. Law enforcement solves crime. Okay, 508 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 12: that is what they're supposed to do. They're supposed to 509 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 12: solve crimes, not necessarily prevent them from happening, per se. 510 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: Now, last night we spoke about the media is a 511 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: shameful silence and a horrific murder in North Carolina because 512 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: it does not fit there forfer narratives. The virucial murder 513 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: of a young Ukrainian woman would have never been properly 514 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: exposed if not for platforms like x and that has 515 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: upset the likes of seeing in Potato Brian Stelter. He 516 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: appears more horrified by the outrage about this murder than 517 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: the crime itself. 518 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 10: The energy from pro Trump activists. They picked up on 519 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 10: this video from local news and ran with it. It's 520 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 10: a little bit like the times when civil rights groups 521 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 10: have raised attension about police involved shootings. In this case, 522 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 10: it is Trump aligned influencers who are posting up a 523 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 10: storm about this case on social media. Really over the weekend, 524 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 10: Elon Musk, Charlie Kirk, other Trump aligned figures succeeded in 525 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 10: making this senseless death a symbol of big city crime, 526 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 10: and it's being used, as you said, Brian, as a 527 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 10: political symbol with MAGA media calling for more forceful punishments 528 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 10: and more incarceration. I have to say some of the 529 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 10: replies to Musks, some of the comments around the story 530 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 10: are baldly racist, stoking fear of African Americans because this 531 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 10: man attacked a white wa woman. The open racism on 532 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 10: sites like x Today, it's eye popping. 533 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: Joining me now Skyni is contributor Kosher Geida Kosher. The 534 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: media's failure to properly cover this story, and in many 535 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: cases covered at all, is damny. 536 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 13: It is and what's eye popping, Brian Stelter is to 537 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 13: be on a train as an innocent person, minding your 538 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 13: own business and being stabbed to that is what's eye 539 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 13: popping to people. And exactly he's complicit in purposely trying 540 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 13: to whitewash that and put it to the side, and 541 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 13: I think the reason why the media has especially been 542 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 13: quiet on this one they often are for many stories, 543 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 13: is this really is like a checkmate for them because 544 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 13: all of the standard narratives don't work with this. The 545 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 13: racial profiles of the murderer and the victim are inconvenient. 546 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 13: There was no gun involved, so they can't fight the 547 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 13: second Amendment, which is one of their favorite tropes. The 548 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 13: person is a completely unsympathetic figure because he had this 549 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 13: long rap sheet and had been repeatedly left out twelve times, 550 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 13: cashless bail, all of that. And then the fourth layer 551 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 13: is she the weight victim. The leady is a Ukrainian 552 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 13: refugee who fled a war torn region to come to 553 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 13: supposedly the greatest nache on earth, only to then be 554 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 13: met with this. So there's nothing they can do about it, 555 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 13: and I think the easiest thing than in a silence. 556 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: And in so many ways a model New American. She 557 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: was there legally, she was working, she was working at 558 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: a pizza store, she was catching public transport, completely minding 559 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: her own business, not being in any way antagonistic, and 560 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: to be attacked from behind in that manner, I mean, 561 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: the footage is horrific. Let's have a look at another 562 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: media outlet framing of this story. Here is how Axias 563 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: chose to report this crime some weeks after it actually happened. 564 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: They say, the gruesome video of the fatal knife attack 565 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: on Irena Zaritska on a light railcar and Charlotte is 566 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 2: drawing attention from MAGA influences seeking to elevate the issue 567 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: of violent urban crime. I'm going to accuse mainstream media 568 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: of undercovering shocking cases. Kosher accuse the mainstream media of 569 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: undercovering shocking cases. That is the undeniable reality, and the 570 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 2: manner in which they choose to elevate certain crimes and 571 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: downplay udders is I think, just causing further harm to 572 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: the media's reputation. 573 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 13: Absolutely, And on top of all those points we just discussed, 574 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 13: this is caught on camera. 575 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 5: As you say, it's this. 576 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 13: Really horrific, brutal footage, which also makes it impossible to 577 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 13: ignore a pictures worth a thousand words came to President's 578 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 13: Trump attension. He's now amplifying it, and mainstream media is 579 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 13: losing relevance anyway, eyebos readings all the rest of it. 580 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 13: And then on top of that, you've got something like this, 581 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 13: it is just impossible to deny. It fits right into 582 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 13: one of the policy agendas of this administration about cracking 583 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 13: down on crime and trying to l Salvadorise. You know 584 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 13: these horrible cities in the US. So this is not 585 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 13: going away, and hopefully we get something nice. Some silver 586 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 13: lining out of this horrific incident is that the Trump 587 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 13: administration's agenda gets a little bit more oxigent. 588 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: Well, here is what the President had to say about 589 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: this senseless murder by a madman. 590 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 11: A lunatic just got up and it's straight on the cape, 591 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 11: not really watchable because it's so horrible, but just viciously 592 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 11: stabs she's just sitting there. 593 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: So there are evil people. We have to be able 594 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: to handle that. If we don't handle that, we don't 595 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: have a country. 596 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: And the President posted this after watching the herofic video. 597 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: He said the perpetrator was a well known career criminal 598 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: who had been previously arrested and released on cashless bail 599 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: in January a total of fourteen times. What the hell 600 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: was he doing riding the train and walking the streets. 601 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: Criminals like this need to be locked up. The blood 602 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: of this innocent woman can literally be seen dripping from 603 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: the killer's knife, and now her blood is on the 604 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: hands of the Democrats who refused to put bad people 605 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: in jail, including former disgraced governor and want to be 606 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: Senator Roy Cooper. President only learned of this crime fairly 607 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: late in proceedings, a full day, perhaps a couple of 608 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 2: days after it was trending on social media. There's been 609 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: some criticism that his inner circle is not making him 610 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: sufficiently informed of these events, and if he's not seeing 611 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: it on the mainstream media, then he could miss. 612 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 13: This one, certainly wonders and I think the incident itself 613 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 13: occurred towards the end of August, but only when to 614 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 13: viral a couple of weeks later, because as we discussed, 615 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 13: the media was not covering it, and somehow that footage 616 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 13: that each came out and it exploded and then yes, 617 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 13: he got it on delay. He does in a way, 618 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 13: even the President trum really understands media and it's fascinating 619 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 13: as a seventy nine year old how plugged in here 620 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 13: is to social media. He does still enjoy television. He's 621 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 13: always talking about how he watches the shows and watches TV, 622 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 13: so he possibly does have a blind spot or a 623 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 13: gap there, and whether it's barn or somebody younger, needs 624 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 13: to have bring. 625 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: Baron back into the administration because we know he was 626 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 2: they're giving advice during the campaign because he is a 627 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: cable newswatcher. That's where he get looks, whether it's CNN 628 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: or Fox News and things that are really trending on 629 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 2: x or other social media sites. I think are in 630 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: a bit of a blind spot and he relies on 631 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: others to tell him, and this one he learned about, 632 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 2: I would argue much later than he should have now. 633 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 2: The mayor of Charlotte, where this young woman was murdered 634 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: by recidivus criminal, has released a statement. Mayor Lyles, the 635 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: Democrat who took a nieph for George Floyd and VLM, wrote, 636 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 2: this is a tragic situation that sheds lights on problems 637 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: with society safety nets related to mental health care and 638 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: the systems that should be in place. She also said 639 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 2: the murderer, de Carlos Brown Junior, appears to have suffered 640 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: a crisis, and she added she is not villainizing those 641 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 2: who struggle with their mental health or those who are unhoused. Kosha, 642 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 2: It's interesting that in her efforts to be so compassionate 643 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 2: to the killer, she comes off as so cold and 644 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 2: callous and a little bit crazy. I mean, did she 645 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: watch the footage? How do you put out this statement 646 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 2: after watching that footage? 647 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 13: Just a little crazy? I think she's telling us how 648 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 13: she really feels, and how unfortunately a big chunk of 649 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 13: society really feels. If you view the world through that prism, 650 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 13: then everything is this irredeemable social injustice that's happened since 651 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 13: the beginning of time, then everything fits into that, and 652 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 13: they do not look at it as what this individual murder, animal, demon, 653 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 13: whatever you want to call him was, And this poor 654 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 13: innocent woman Ukrainian refugee working, as you say, doing a 655 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 13: job and trying to take public transport to go home. 656 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 13: That is the prism, but not the one she's going 657 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 13: to apply. It really is evil on a different level 658 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 13: in a moment like this, to try and make the 659 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 13: victim be the actual murder. So it really is outrageous. 660 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 13: And I just think the more they do that and 661 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 13: regular people who aren't plugged into the new so much 662 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 13: and don't see this are now seeing it, the more 663 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 13: unhinged people like her are going to look and it's 664 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 13: not going to end well for her now. 665 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: Lawyers for Jeffrey Epstein's estate have given Congress a copy 666 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 2: of the birthday book put together for the Finance's fiftieth birthday, 667 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 2: which includes an alleged letter with Donald Trump's signature that 668 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: he has said doesn't exist. Democrat Robert Garcia claims Trump 669 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 2: is a lying and doing everything you can to cover 670 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: up the truth. He said, enough of the games and lies. 671 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: Release the full files. 672 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: Now. 673 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: Is this something the president will be worried about? Kosher? 674 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean, the Democrats were empowerful well several years there. 675 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 2: They could have released anything related to Epstein, and I'm 676 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 2: pretty confident if there was any anything that could put 677 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: on President Trump they would have. 678 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 5: For that reason. 679 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 13: I don't think he's worried or he would be worried annoyed, 680 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 13: probably because these kinds of things just again give oxygen 681 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 13: to the story. He's trying to get on with the 682 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 13: serious best business, which is what we've just been talking about, 683 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 13: plus flooding the zone with the whole host of other issues. 684 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 13: I think everybody believes kind of what you're saying that 685 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 13: if there was true dirt on him, the Biden DOJ 686 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 13: Merrick Garland would have released it in a hot minute. 687 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 13: So that's why none of this stuff feels believable. There's 688 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 13: all sorts of people doing signature matches online and all that. 689 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 13: Who knows even if it were true, if you wanted 690 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 13: to give it the most charitable explanation around that it 691 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 13: happened in the nineties, which is well before Epstein was 692 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 13: infeminally convicted of anything. And it's so much in the 693 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 13: dustmin of history. And the Democrats, as you say, have 694 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 13: never talked about anybody else some of their favorite characters, 695 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 13: from Bill Clinton to others who were much cozier with him. 696 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 13: So I think this will go away. It's a little 697 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 13: bit annoying, and it reminds us of the mishandling that 698 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 13: Pam Bondy and team kind of did with the files 699 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 13: and that publicity stunt and all of that. But I 700 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 13: think by tomorrow it'll be in yesterday's news. 701 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 11: Yeah. 702 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone who is likely to vote for 703 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 2: Donald Trump would give any credence to any of these. Now, 704 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: let's look at some terrible saints from Nepal, where at 705 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 2: last nineteen people were killed and one hundreds were injured 706 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 2: during youth led rit protests riots over corruption in Nepal's 707 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 2: social media bands. That seemed to be the crux of 708 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 2: these protests, the social media bands. Now the majority killed 709 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 2: were in the capital kathman Do when they were fired 710 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: upon by security forces. The government their kosher moved last 711 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: week to bands social media sites like Facebook, YouTube, WhatsApp, 712 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 2: and they claimed that was necessary to stop hate speech 713 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 2: and misinformation, but the protesters saw it as a tool 714 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: for censorship. It's interesting because it sounds very familiar to 715 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 2: some of the bands we're having institutioned here where under 716 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 2: sixteens are going to be banned from YouTube, x, Instagram 717 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 2: and many other sites. 718 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 13: Very familiar. All throughout history, you see this where people 719 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 13: in power try to control information flow and access to 720 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 13: information and country sect Nepile, Burma had an incident like 721 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 13: maybe a decade ago, and there were all these actives 722 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 13: journalists trying to get it out on the Internet, et cetera. 723 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 13: In the dantage of the Internet, it's really really difficult 724 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 13: for them to do that, so it's kind of like 725 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 13: whack them all. The governments will keep doing it, but 726 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 13: they will always find a way to get information out there. 727 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 13: But it's bad enough if you see it in Nepal 728 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 13: and Burman places like that. I think what is worse is, 729 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 13: as you mentioned here, the UK now has been the 730 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 13: crosshairs with this, and that's the part that's scary. That's 731 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 13: all called nations that are supposed to be bastions of 732 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 13: free speech, yeah, are doing something that doesn't look quite 733 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 13: too different from that. And maybe this is a little 734 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 13: bit of a clarion call. 735 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: And using the same reasons about minimizing harm for safety, 736 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 2: reasons for misinformation. So yeah, the reasons given are very 737 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 2: familiar as well. Now, before you go, more political chaos 738 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 2: in France, Emmanuel Macron is about to be looking for 739 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 2: his fourth prime minister in just twelve months. This comes 740 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 2: after French MP's top of the government in a confidence void. 741 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 2: Kosher is Europe's second large economy in crisis. 742 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 13: Seems to be you know, the fundamentals of that country. 743 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 13: We know it's very similar to the rest of Europe 744 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 13: and elsewhere. The immgration problem, cost of living, censorship, you 745 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 13: know all of those things, people, unemployment, et cetera. And 746 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 13: then they formed this very uneasy alliance because in response 747 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 13: to that, Marine La Penn's party is on the rise, 748 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 13: as are her counterparts in the rest of Europe, the 749 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 13: populist right, and then they're forming these uneasy alliances the 750 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 13: rest of the parliament. So it was always going to 751 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 13: be tenuous, not surprising. I think too many people that 752 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 13: this happened. And the question is mccrown himself is losing 753 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 13: popularity and you know when and how is history going 754 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 13: to end? Remains to be seen. But they'll do another 755 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 13: snap election. This is all downstream from the snap election 756 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 13: that he called. He made a political calculation that sort 757 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 13: of backfired. And I think as long as those fundamentals 758 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 13: in France remain unchanged as they seem to be right now, 759 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 13: this is sort of a patchwork and it's going. 760 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 2: To keep toppling over. Kosha, geta thank you so much 761 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 2: for your time. A pleasure still to come. You will 762 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 2: not believe what my next guest isle being now to 763 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 2: this week, Alex Stein. Doctor Alex Stein joins me next. 764 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back. Encourageable Texan Alex Steine has stopped terrorizing council 765 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: meetings in person, is now doing it online. Here is 766 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 2: comic and agitated abortionist doctor Alex Stein. 767 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 14: I can't catch any break ever since a third vaccine, 768 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 14: I've had issues performing. My wife has left me for 769 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 14: a nineteen year old personal trainer named Girardo goody Eras, 770 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 14: and now I am all alone. I'm at the lowest 771 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 14: point of my entire life and I come on here 772 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 14: to try to talk, to try to do my civil duty, 773 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 14: to try to make the city a better place. 774 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 4: And what happens to some girls make fun of my job. 775 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 1: That's not okay. 776 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 4: Listen, thank god I have these cats. 777 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 2: This is the only thing that I have left in 778 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 2: life is his cat. 779 00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 11: I have. 780 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 3: Antipastions coming on me, calling me a jerk for doing 781 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 3: aight abortions today. You try doing that, You try coming 782 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 3: to my job, perform me hate abortions. You can never 783 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 3: I'll be able to save at night the dreams I had. 784 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 3: I try to eat. 785 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes I cue, I bond me. I look in the mirror. 786 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 4: I'm discussing with whom I become. 787 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 14: And I gotta come in and c from some girl 788 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 14: named Kim. 789 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 2: What are you emit? His mom, Alex, that may be 790 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: some of your finest work yet. And kudos on using 791 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 2: your cat so effectively. That's a very well trained kitty cat. 792 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 15: Well, yeah, you know, angers really stole the show. But 793 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 15: you know, that video is definitely going viral, and I 794 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 15: think I think there's a reason for that because the insanity. 795 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 15: People like to see the insanity because that's a real 796 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 15: that's a real world we live, and everybody's gone crazy. 797 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 15: So you know, I'm not surprised it's gone viral. 798 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 2: So now you're going to be terrorizing counsels all across 799 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 2: the country. If you can do it online. You don't 800 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: have to limit yourself to Texas anymore. You can go 801 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 2: San Francisco, you can go you can go to all 802 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: the crazy councils. 803 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 4: I'm going to go everywhere. The next place is Australia. 804 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 4: You know, I gotta go there. 805 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 15: I gotta go straight to Australia. I gotta go to Sydney, 806 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 15: I gotta go to Melbourne. And you know, really, just 807 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 15: you know, give them the business. 808 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 4: As I say, now, you are. 809 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 2: My second favorite Texan and I knew I had to 810 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: ask you about this rebrand of Austin, Texas. The capital's 811 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 2: official logo has been changed at considerable cost. 812 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 8: For the first time in Austin's history. We will have 813 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 8: we will have a logo to represent the city services 814 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 8: and unify us as one organization one Austin. 815 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: We will go from this. 816 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 8: To this, while this effort began before I arrived as 817 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 8: city manager. Is the project I was glad to champion. 818 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 2: So Alex, that went from the cool City of Austin 819 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 2: logo to this hideous modern design looks like something that 820 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 2: belongs to it an indoor recreation center. It's a sort 821 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:20,720 Speaker 2: of logo a pyramid selling venture might have. I hated Alex, 822 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 2: and you better hate it too. 823 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 4: We're going to have some problems, no reader, are you kidding? 824 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,959 Speaker 15: I'm here in Dallas and the city manager, that guy 825 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 15: TC brad now is his name, He used to be 826 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 15: the city manager of Dallas, and they would. 827 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 4: Literally copy Dallas's terrible logo. 828 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 15: So I hate I hate this because we live in 829 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 15: a society where everything is ugly. Now all we do 830 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 15: is praise stuff when it's ugly, and this looks like 831 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 15: chat GBT garbage. 832 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,919 Speaker 4: It's ridiculous riata. 833 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 2: But it's just so cheap and yeah nasty. It's it 834 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 2: doesn't even have an attempted be sophisticated or iconic or 835 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 2: something that's memorable. But Austin is not really Texas anymore. 836 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: A lot of Australians, you ask them, have you been 837 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 2: to Texas? And they say, I've been to Austin, And 838 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 2: I always say, well, that ain't Texas. 839 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 4: It's not the best representation. 840 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 15: But you know the worst part of this whole entire 841 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 15: thing is they spent one point two million dollars to 842 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 15: design that ugly logo. 843 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,280 Speaker 4: Can you believe that that is highway robbery? 844 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 15: They robbed the tab paying citizens of Arstin Texas with 845 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 15: that rebrand. Absolutely, it's worse than Cracker Barrel. And the 846 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 15: Cracker Barrel looks great compared to the city of Arson 847 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:31,280 Speaker 15: right now. 848 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is worth the Cracker Barrel. They took up 849 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 2: something like seven years to come up with it, so 850 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 2: that's incredible in itself. Now, media mogul billionaire John Malone 851 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 2: gave CINN anchor Pamela Brown some stage advice about what 852 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 2: the leftist network must do to reclaim credibility and an audience. 853 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: He said, the broad perception of SIN in today is 854 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 2: that it is coming at news with a leftist or 855 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 2: left of center bias. No kidding, mate, He said, CNN 856 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 2: risks becoming irrelevant if they cannot reclaim neutrality Alex. The 857 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 2: interview came as CNN trails at Fox News and even MSNBC. 858 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 2: You look at the August starter, CNN drew an average 859 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 2: audience of four hundred and forty four thousand. You compare 860 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,720 Speaker 2: that that's primetime audience to Fox, which is on two 861 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 2: point three million, and MSNBC on seven hundred and eighty 862 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 2: three thousand. These are Nielsen figures, and they're damning for CNN, 863 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 2: and you could argue for MSNBC, the second place is 864 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 2: a long way from first place. 865 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 15: No, you're exactly right, And you look at CNN. I mean, 866 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 15: obviously everybody knows they have a huge bias when it 867 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 15: comes to their journalism. You know, I put that in quotes. 868 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 4: But really I don't think people would care. 869 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 15: But now CNN has just lost so much credibility that 870 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 15: even the people on their own side don't even believe 871 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 15: the garbage that they're spewing every day on their airways. 872 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 15: So they've really lost their action with the left. So 873 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 15: once you're trying to appease the left and then you 874 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 15: lose the left, there's no way for CNN to actually 875 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 15: survive unless they take a strategy where they'll be you know, 876 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,959 Speaker 15: more unbiased. But I think their through reputation in MSNBC's 877 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 15: reputation through Donald Trump's concenttrolling is basically unrepaarable at this moment. 878 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think their idea of being down the line 879 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 2: is having Scott Jennings on a panel with full left 880 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 2: leaning individuals. So that's that's the balance that they're bringing 881 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 2: to their news programs. Now, before you go, the New 882 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 2: York Post is reporting that President Trump's Department of Justice 883 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 2: is considering banning trans people from buying guns. Some Department 884 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 2: of Justice members believe the move can be approved as 885 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 2: a follow up on Trump's executive order banning military service 886 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 2: by transgender people. Alex, Are we suddenly going to see 887 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 2: Democrats become passionate about the Second Amendment here? 888 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 15: You know, I actually would kind of like to see 889 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 15: the Democrats passionate about the Second Amendment, because without the 890 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 15: Second Amendment, we really can't defend the First Amendment, which 891 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 15: is freedom of speech. So I believe that we need guns. 892 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 15: But at the same time, you saw that viral clip 893 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 15: of Joe Rogan just spitting facts saying the last you know, shooters, 894 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 15: mass shooters, we're all either non bininaria or transgender. So 895 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 15: it is a pattern that is very alarming. But I 896 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 15: just really do not like when the government starts to 897 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 15: infringe on our rights because of mental health, because, to 898 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 15: be honest, everybody's a little crazy. But you know, I 899 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 15: don't know if the government should really outlaw people from 900 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 15: having guns, especially trans people. I mean, yes, they should 901 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 15: be on a list, but I don't know. It's just 902 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 15: a tough thing because the Second Amendment is so important, 903 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,439 Speaker 15: and you know, it just sets the president for red 904 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 15: flag laws. 905 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 2: Thank you, Alex. And that's it for me. Up next, 906 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 2: it's news, not I'll see you tomorrow, not at eleven