1
00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160
Speaker 1: This is the Fitting and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast.

2
00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,720
Speaker 2: Breaking up can be one of the hardest things to do.

3
00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,440
Speaker 3: What a song I have a pride in the car

4
00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,160
Speaker 3: to this one.

5
00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,520
Speaker 4: I'm still crying. Crying now.

6
00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,440
Speaker 2: I remember I was fourteen years of age and I

7
00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,599
Speaker 2: was going out with a girl called Natalie who I

8
00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,319
Speaker 2: met at the bus stop. Kate, So she went to

9
00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,360
Speaker 2: a different school. We would meet at the bus stop

10
00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:26,880
Speaker 2: every day.

11
00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,440
Speaker 3: Oh, you must have looked forward to that bust.

12
00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,200
Speaker 4: You would have done your hair in the morning.

13
00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,600
Speaker 2: And well, we were holding hands at the bus stop

14
00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,199
Speaker 2: and then she wanted to kiss me, and I just

15
00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,400
Speaker 2: felt weird. It didn't feel right, and I didn't know

16
00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,400
Speaker 2: how I didn't have I didn't know how to say

17
00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,279
Speaker 2: to her. I just can't do this anymore. So I

18
00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,880
Speaker 2: never went back to that bus stop again.

19
00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,120
Speaker 3: Didn't you ghost? It is serious. Yeah, I call her

20
00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,360
Speaker 3: or let her know. You just stopped coming and I

21
00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,880
Speaker 3: felt really really bad. I just couldn't do it because

22
00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:56,400
Speaker 3: you had a cold.

23
00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,240
Speaker 2: Saw. Yeah, that was another thing as well.

24
00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,800
Speaker 5: This is the thing fits You say, you felt really

25
00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,399
Speaker 5: really bad and this is what people say, but you

26
00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,440
Speaker 5: didn't feel bad enough to handle it.

27
00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,480
Speaker 3: Well, I felt so bad about it.

28
00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,440
Speaker 5: Well, why this could all be over with one simple conversation.

29
00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,240
Speaker 2: Well, the shoe on the other foot, It's happened to

30
00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,400
Speaker 2: me before because I the first time I tried to

31
00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,480
Speaker 2: court a young Belinda Irons, who is now my wife.

32
00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,160
Speaker 2: She didn't want anything.

33
00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:32,680
Speaker 3: To do with me, Kate.

34
00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,039
Speaker 4: She had a boyfriend, and I.

35
00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,080
Speaker 2: Was so upset that I ended up hooking up with

36
00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,160
Speaker 2: somebody else and I started seeing that, I started seeing

37
00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,720
Speaker 2: that person and then she ghosted me. Kate would not

38
00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,720
Speaker 2: pick up her phone.

39
00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,800
Speaker 3: Who Belinda no, no, this argument.

40
00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,800
Speaker 2: That I was seeing at the time, and then I

41
00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,400
Speaker 2: had to go through her friends, and this was about

42
00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,320
Speaker 2: three or four months later, would not get back to me.

43
00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,200
Speaker 2: And I thought, I just need an answer here. All

44
00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,640
Speaker 2: I want is an answer if you I had a

45
00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:00,360
Speaker 2: pretty good idea.

46
00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,120
Speaker 3: It was because she just there.

47
00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,000
Speaker 2: Just tell me.

48
00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,679
Speaker 4: I remember calling this girl. I really like Penny and

49
00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,040
Speaker 4: her This is when she didn't have a mother phone before,

50
00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,560
Speaker 4: and you would ring the home phone. It was a

51
00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,480
Speaker 4: very nerve wracking time. And the dad answered and he

52
00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,120
Speaker 4: went is there And I said, Oh, my name's Michael,

53
00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,200
Speaker 4: and he yelled out to her a Penny Michael's on

54
00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,400
Speaker 4: the phone, and I just heard her in the background.

55
00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,840
Speaker 4: Go tell him, tell him I'm not here. I'm sorry, Michael,

56
00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:31,639
Speaker 4: Penny's not here.

57
00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,160
Speaker 3: Penny Wise judged the bullet, didn't she did? She really

58
00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:38,280
Speaker 3: she did?

59
00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,560
Speaker 2: So this is this is the daughter of Dubai's ruler.

60
00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,160
Speaker 2: So she's she's regarded as a princess. Her name is

61
00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:52,720
Speaker 2: Shaka Mara bin Muhammad Reshid al Maktum, her name. She's married,

62
00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,720
Speaker 2: and she has gone to Instagram. So he's found out

63
00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,520
Speaker 2: through an Instagram post of hers that says, as you

64
00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,560
Speaker 2: are occupied with other companions, I hereby declare our divorce.

65
00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,240
Speaker 2: I divorce you. I divorce you, and I divorce you.

66
00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,760
Speaker 2: Take care your ex wife.

67
00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,440
Speaker 4: Oh, so she's obviously cracked at it where he's spending

68
00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,800
Speaker 4: most of his time. Maybe he's even extended his offering

69
00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:18,399
Speaker 4: too far.

70
00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:25,600
Speaker 2: Ompanions bonus for her like like like like like like

71
00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,480
Speaker 2: like you extra followers.

72
00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,080
Speaker 5: Like we wouldn't be talking about her if she hadn't

73
00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:30,360
Speaker 5: done it.

74
00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,320
Speaker 2: No, but husband gone. It's a tough way to find

75
00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,960
Speaker 2: out the relationships over through on Instagram post.

76
00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:42,840
Speaker 3: Very clear, though, do you do you comment? New phone?

77
00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:43,400
Speaker 1: Who did.

78
00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:45,520
Speaker 3: Ashley?

79
00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,119
Speaker 4: Hello? Hello, how'd you find out it was over?

80
00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,640
Speaker 6: Oh, well, back in the day when MSN was a

81
00:03:54,720 --> 00:04:00,480
Speaker 6: thing we were you could messages an offline message and

82
00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,680
Speaker 6: then when they return or log one.

83
00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:04,440
Speaker 1: It pops up.

84
00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,320
Speaker 6: And so I got an offline message to say it

85
00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:07,720
Speaker 6: was over.

86
00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,840
Speaker 1: Oh I looked back in it was over.

87
00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,840
Speaker 4: So it just stopped up and said see you later, Ash.

88
00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,400
Speaker 3: Did you want more? Did you want more? Did you

89
00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,080
Speaker 3: want more finality from him? Did you write that.

90
00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:26,240
Speaker 1: Sorry?

91
00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,159
Speaker 3: Did you write back?

92
00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,440
Speaker 4: Did you make contact after that?

93
00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:28,680
Speaker 1: Or that?

94
00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,760
Speaker 6: Absolutely? I may have blasted him.

95
00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:36,760
Speaker 2: Let's go to Emma in PARAMOUNTA.

96
00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,920
Speaker 3: How did you find out it was over?

97
00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:38,120
Speaker 2: Him?

98
00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,039
Speaker 1: So many many years ago. I'm happily married now, but

99
00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,120
Speaker 1: many years ago my ex and I were separated, living separately,

100
00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,719
Speaker 1: so it wasn't a complete surprise eventually. But one day

101
00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,440
Speaker 1: I got a random text message that said what's your address?

102
00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,599
Speaker 1: And I said, what do you need it for? And

103
00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,960
Speaker 1: the why I got was divorced papers full stop? Need them,

104
00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,599
Speaker 1: full stop? And that was it.

105
00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,160
Speaker 3: How cold is that? Oh?

106
00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,200
Speaker 4: And I'm sorry you had to go through that. Are

107
00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,320
Speaker 4: you happy at the moment? Have you got someone special

108
00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:17,080
Speaker 4: in your life now?

109
00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm so incredibly happy with my husband and I've got

110
00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:21,599
Speaker 1: a beautiful son.

111
00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,080
Speaker 3: So it was a great news.

112
00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,520
Speaker 2: Well that's that's how a majority of men deal with

113
00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:28,599
Speaker 2: their emotions, isn't it.

114
00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,320
Speaker 3: What through the lawyer with papers? That's just about basic.

115
00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,799
Speaker 3: Yet if it less is more, just right? I believe

116
00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:34,400
Speaker 3: your address.

117
00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,880
Speaker 5: Sometimes I think that does work though, because I think

118
00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,400
Speaker 5: at the end of a relationship you can all get

119
00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,760
Speaker 5: a bit firy, So.

120
00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:41,920
Speaker 4: Just knock it on the head, so.

121
00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,200
Speaker 5: You know, emotionally charged sometimes take all that stuff out

122
00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,680
Speaker 5: of it.

123
00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,039
Speaker 4: Oh, sorry, Richie. How did you find out Ellie that

124
00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:50,760
Speaker 4: it was over?

125
00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:52,039
Speaker 3: Oh?

126
00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:52,919
Speaker 2: I don't know.

127
00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,200
Speaker 6: I haven't had any spicy relationships that were like that.

128
00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,960
Speaker 2: But Ellie's ringing yes for pay your bibs.

129
00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,640
Speaker 3: Also, oh my god, I wasn't.

130
00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,000
Speaker 5: Ready for this.

131
00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,040
Speaker 4: I had to find out where were paying your bills?

132
00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,039
Speaker 1: How did I find out you're paying my bills?

133
00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,719
Speaker 2: I just got a call and I'm very happy about it.

134
00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,159
Speaker 3: And we want to pay your rent. How much is

135
00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,000
Speaker 3: that over? Six hundred dollars?

136
00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, six hundred and ten dollars just gone up thirty dollars.

137
00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,240
Speaker 4: Okay, we're going to pay it. And a message from

138
00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,279
Speaker 4: your boyfriend you're dumped.

139
00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's over.

140
00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,359
Speaker 1: I Love It.

141
00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,919
Speaker 3: Sits in Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova.

142
00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,360
Speaker 4: Podcast walk great shows like this. Download the Nova Player,

143
00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,520
Speaker 4: find the app store or Google playing the player