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Speaker 1: This is Brownies Podcast! Welcome to Brownies Podcast, round one

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Speaker 1: of the finals done. Week one, I should say. It

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Speaker 1: is Campbell Brown, it is Jonathan Brown, it's myself, Dean Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Beck's here, Brodie. Who the hell knows where he is?

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Speaker 2: Poor old Brodie.

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Speaker 1: Let's play this stupid song. What, mate?

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Speaker 3: A packed crowd of their home fans and they go

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Speaker 3: down by 14 goals.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into Port in greater detail later and all

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Speaker 1: the losers.

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Speaker 2: I just love the stitch-up that his team here did

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Speaker 2: when they played the fake audio from a few years

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Speaker 2: ago and he thought for a brief period of time

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Speaker 2: that they actually won.

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Speaker 1: Mate, stunning stuff.

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Speaker 4: We'll get to that. How bad was that? I tell

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Speaker 4: you what, thank God for the Sydney GWS game, lads,

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Speaker 4: because it was a pretty ordinary first week of finals

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Speaker 4: in terms of the margins.

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Speaker 2: There was.

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Speaker 4: Three of the teams that were very disappointing, especially Port Adelaide. Well,

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Speaker 4: Port Adelaide Bulldogs and Carlton were all disappointing. But you've

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Speaker 4: got to focus on the positives, don't you? Because I

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Speaker 4: tell you what, there's some red-hot teams in this first week.

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Speaker 2: That was one of the great all-time ever finals and

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Speaker 2: comebacks as far as I'm concerned. I just am in

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Speaker 2: awe of what the Sydney Swans do.

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Speaker 1: They're the bloods.

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Speaker 2: They never give in. Brother. I gave them no chance

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Speaker 2: at three-quarter time.

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Speaker 3: Heaney, obviously Heaney on fire.

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Speaker 1: The mark was at top 10 of all time, I'd say.

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Speaker 4: Come on.

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Speaker 2: Right up there.

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Speaker 4: John. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I loved it. It had everything too.

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Speaker 4: It had the landing as well. Probably lucky the GWS

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Speaker 4: by Jack Buckley. Just helped harness him on the way down, boys.

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Speaker 4: That says a lot about.

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Speaker 1: His personality, Buckley, because you've just been shat on.

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Speaker 5: You've just been.

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Speaker 1: And then you've saved the guy's neck for the rest

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Speaker 1: of his life.

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Speaker 2: My favourite passage of play for the whole year was.

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Speaker 2: Warner, hat kick out of the defensive 50. Papley on

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Speaker 2: the 2v1. He's a small forward. All he's thinking about is, geez,

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Speaker 2: I've got Iden and Taylor. I've just got to bring

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Speaker 2: it to ground, which he does. Wins it. Handball over

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Speaker 2: the head to a running Heaney who just pushed off

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Speaker 2: Lockie Whitfield, who drives the ball to the open goal

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Speaker 2: square from 65.

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Speaker 1: Oh, my God.

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Speaker 2: And it bounces through to scores level with under three

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Speaker 2: minutes to go. Like, that is what dreams are made of, baby.

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Speaker 1: They're in.

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Speaker 7: They're in.

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Speaker 1: He earned it. That was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Papley, every time he did something big, the amount of

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Speaker 3: testosterone flowing through his body. John, did you notice he

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Speaker 3: just wanted to punch someone after every goal?

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Speaker 4: He went looking for players, didn't he? He just wanted

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Speaker 4: to sledge. He wanted to stick his little chest out.

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Speaker 4: The big bulldog.

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Speaker 2: Hey, our Sydney stars, our Sydney stars.

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Speaker 4: Better than any other team stars because ultimately that's what

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Speaker 4: got it done. There's a little bit of vanilla about

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Speaker 4: Sydney Swans apart from the big dogs. And Warner was

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Speaker 4: unbelievable in that last quarter as well. Heaney was great.

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Speaker 4: Papley was amazing. Goulden got going in the last quarter

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Speaker 4: as well. Rampey did an amazing job. And Tom Green.

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Speaker 2: Jake Lloyd.

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Speaker 4: I feel as if they are probably more reliant on

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Speaker 4: their big guns. Now they do deliver regularly. Jake Lloyd

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Speaker 4: was great, but he's probably not class of big gun

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Speaker 4: brown dog, but, If you come to think of it,

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Speaker 4: Sydney stars are probably better than the other team stars.

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Speaker 2: It's funny how the narrative changes on the back of

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Speaker 2: that because if GWS win because they were in control

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Speaker 2: of that game for 95% of it, we're probably talking

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Speaker 2: about how the Sydney Swans stars were underwhelming and couldn't

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Speaker 2: get it done.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Warner had seven clearances in the last quarter. Amazing last quarter,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it? Like they all found a way to contribute.

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Speaker 2: Like Parker came bowling through and a really crucial ball

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the ground late. earned himself a

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Speaker 2: free kick. You had players just, that was, that's finals footy, baby.

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Speaker 1: And I loved it.

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Speaker 3: John, could there be any better advertisement for football in Sydney?

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Speaker 3: And a second part to that, since GWS have come in,

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Speaker 3: has the, has the needle moved with AFL in that town?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. It has no question. Have a look at that crowd.

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Speaker 4: It was going off in the place. I think I

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Speaker 4: was like, and he spoke about a post game, but

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Speaker 4: the atmosphere and the crowd noise was so loud.

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Speaker 3: Jesus.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. A rugby league could only, dream of crowds like

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Speaker 4: that regularly, couldn't they? And it's been a great rivalry

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Speaker 4: in its short space of time because that's their fourth

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Speaker 4: final and the first time the Swans have knocked off

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Speaker 4: the Giants in a big final. And I actually think this,

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Speaker 4: or I said last week, I think this is going

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Speaker 4: to be the grand final. So these two teams can

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Speaker 4: cross over, can't they? And they can ultimately play off

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Speaker 4: in the GF again.

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Speaker 2: I had a mate who used to play for GWS

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Speaker 2: go up to the SCG and he was blown away

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Speaker 2: with how little support the Giants had.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: It was all Sydney, right? Yeah. And he just thinks

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Speaker 2: that's a waste of time and energy going further west, right?

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Speaker 1: Trying to get.

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Speaker 2: a demographic that have no interest whatsoever in AFL footy

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Speaker 2: due to whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: Was it a ticketing thing?

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Speaker 7: No, no.

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Speaker 2: There's just no supporters. They've just got no supporters.

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Speaker 5: Shit.

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Speaker 2: And it's a concern because that is a footy club

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Speaker 2: that is going really, really, really well. And no matter

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Speaker 2: what the AFL do, right, they just, they cannot convert.

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Speaker 4: But it was a Sydney home game. True. And Sydney

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Speaker 4: have got about 70,000 members and they've only got about

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Speaker 4: 50,000 seats in a bit like it was at the

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Speaker 4: Gabba on Sunday, sorry, Saturday night, because that's only 35,000 people.

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Speaker 4: The Lions have got 60,000 members. So there wasn't that

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Speaker 4: many Blues supporters either. So maybe access to tickets, Brown Dog. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: But I think they just need to focus more around

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Speaker 2: the whole of New South Wales, not necessarily going further west,

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Speaker 2: because I don't necessarily think that that'll convert supporters.

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Speaker 4: But.

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Speaker 2: Great game, and we needed it.

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Speaker 1: It saved the whole weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because obviously, you know, we saw what happened Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: Friday night was a good game for a half, but

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Speaker 2: ultimately the doggies were poor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then Carlton were just, like, absolutely, I said... on

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Speaker 2: the green stuff, and in that first.

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Speaker 4: Quarter and a half.

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Speaker 1: Oh, us too.

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They had no energy.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to the losers in the second break because

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Speaker 3: we've got to tee off on that team, and especially

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Speaker 3: you sent me the audio of Sam McClure, man.

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Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's good, isn't it? It's good audio. A masterclass in

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Speaker 1: punditry is coming up.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Brown Dogs, did you love Guinevan, the wizard, with

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Speaker 4: the wizard's hat on in the post-game doing the lap?

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Speaker 1: Hawks time. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just so vibrant and exciting, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's just drawn the whole footy world towards them. How

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Speaker 2: can you not love... what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: They celebrate together.

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Speaker 2: They are cheeky.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: You know, getting even going and getting the wizard hat,

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Speaker 2: like you mentioned, like we've never seen an on-field interview

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Speaker 2: before when a player's wearing a hat like that, right?

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Speaker 1: John, they've got the same charisma as the Mighty Ducks

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Speaker 1: this team.

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Speaker 4: They do.

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Speaker 2: Who's Goldberg?

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Speaker 1: Good question. No one's... Probably not a.

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Speaker 4: Great claim to fame, Goldberg, but especially the way his

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Speaker 4: life's ended up in recent times, but I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 4: you've got to love the way they embrace it, boys.

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Speaker 4: Selfie central post-game. I'd love to go through the Hawks players,

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Speaker 4: Brown Dog, and just check their uplift in Instagram followers

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Speaker 4: or TikTok followers in the last, say, eight to ten weeks.

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Speaker 2: Guinea's box office and he's brought all his mates along

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Speaker 2: for the ride.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: What about him having a beer the night before at

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Speaker 4: the pub down the London Tavern?

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Speaker 2: Mate, he had a cool drink.

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Speaker 1: He had a shnitty.

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Speaker 4: Mate, that was a beer in his hand.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: It was a shandy at worst. That's only half a beer.

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Speaker 4: It might have been a cider like Brown Dog, but

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Speaker 4: was Mitch... Mitch wasn't really a drinker, though, back in

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Speaker 4: the day. He wasn't really a party animal, but he

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Speaker 4: seems to have embraced this new age where he just

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Speaker 4: lets the players go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he trusts the playing group, and clearly they're getting

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Speaker 2: it done when it matters on the training track and then,

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Speaker 2: more importantly, out there on the footy field. So the

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Speaker 2: one thing that I love about them, and this is

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Speaker 2: not something that you can coach, I don't think, but

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Speaker 2: they're very unselfish footballers. You know what I mean? Like, Guinea...

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Speaker 2: was celebrating just as hard when he hit a teammate

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Speaker 2: in a good position than when he kicked the goal himself.

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Speaker 2: The Wizard, first final, right? Handball's over the top to

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Speaker 2: Finn McGuinness, who runs in and kicks a goal. Friendship goal.

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Speaker 2: They genuinely look for one another and take great pride in...

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Speaker 2: others kicking goals, which, you know, that's the dream as

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Speaker 2: a coach, right? We want to be unselfish, this, that

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Speaker 2: and the other. But ultimately with 98,000 people at the game,

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Speaker 2: you can get caught up and snap over your shoulder

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Speaker 2: and try and dribble kick from the boundary when the

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Speaker 2: game is won. They didn't do that, John.

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Speaker 4: I'll call it now. We always know Moonee Valley races

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Speaker 4: Friday before the grand final. It's a big event. Actually,

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Speaker 4: my horse Beast Mode is going to be running over

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Speaker 4: the 955. It'll be hard to beat. There's one for

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Speaker 4: you punters.

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Speaker 5: Do not.

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Speaker 4: The generates early betting. But call it now. Hawks make

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Speaker 4: the grand final. Guinea making the appearance on the Friday

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Speaker 4: night because you've got to keep your routine.

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Speaker 2: Yes, if they make the grand final, I'll be gobsmacked

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Speaker 2: if he's at Moonee Valley on the Friday night.

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Speaker 4: Would Mitch go to the lengths and the detail to actually...

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Speaker 4: Remind him of.

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Speaker 5: That, though?

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Speaker 2: I think he would address that. He'd walk past, right,

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Speaker 2: and just cheekily, at training, he'd say, hey, Guinea, you're

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Speaker 2: not going to the races tonight, mate. And that's all

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Speaker 2: it would take.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go the other way and say, you've

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Speaker 2: But I think they can win it. Like, they're going

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, you think they can win what?

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Speaker 2: The flag.

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Speaker 4: Come on!

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Speaker 1: Come on.

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Speaker 4: Come on, Brown Dog.

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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 2: He's not wrong.

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Speaker 4: No, rose-colored glasses. No way.

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Speaker 3: They've been good for so long, and both of you

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you what they do? No, Brown Dog

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Speaker 1: He's hopeful.

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Speaker 4: He's missed out on grand final tickets. He needs access

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Speaker 4: gets access to cashies i'd say that's what i'm thinking

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Speaker 3: Mate they they've been unstoppable and they could win the

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Speaker 2: A fact That's a fact. Sam Frost is going to

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Speaker 2: be a big out. He's just been announced and he's

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Speaker 2: got stress fractures in his foot and he's going to

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Speaker 5: Oh, dear.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's missed a game this season.

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Speaker 4: Is James Blank ready or is he?

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Speaker 2: No, he did his ACL at the start of the year.

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Speaker 2: So that's going to leave a bit of a gaping

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Speaker 3: I tell you what, I watched a lot of Fox

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Speaker 3: 40 over the weekend and saw my friend Jonathan on

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Speaker 1: Jonathan, interesting choice of jackets on the Friday, friend. It

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Speaker 1: was very Sherlock Holmes.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: It had like tartan.

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Speaker 4: Oh, yes.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's a bit of tartan.

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Speaker 1: It looks like you're solving a mystery and I loved it.

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Speaker 4: I should have had the hat on.

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Speaker 1: You should have.

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Speaker 3: And a pipe after the Hawks game.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard this, Campbell? Have a good listen.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Then a shout out to Jeff Armand, one of the

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Speaker 1: great degenerates.

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Speaker 3: He found this and he said he couldn't have got

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Speaker 5: Enjoy.

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Speaker 4: And they've really been able to do it with a

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Speaker 4: and obviously Jack Gunston. Gunston, you reckon? Jeez, I'm a

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Speaker 2: Just a tiny slip of the tongue at the wrong moment.

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Speaker 1: I'm so immature. This has brought me so much joy.

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Speaker 1: One more time.

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Speaker 4: Mark's just going to pick up on it too.

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. Let's have another little listen just to make

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Speaker 4: And they've really been able to do it with a

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Speaker 5: Oh, is that right?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's why I felt that way, Dave.

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Speaker 1: Well, what if I told you the internet is already on, Jonathan?

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 1: And there's a new sort of music out. And, you know, dubstep?

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of dubstep?

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Speaker 2: I've heard of dubstep.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a new sort of music back your young,

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Speaker 3: so you know dubstep as well, right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of cunstep?

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Speaker 4: No, it's just new to me. Jack Cunston.

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Speaker 2: Jack Cunston.

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Speaker 4: Jack Cunston.

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Speaker 2: Wow, man.

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Speaker 4: Well done.

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Speaker 2: Great remix.

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Speaker 4: Good job. Oh, that's big. Yeah, that is big.

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Speaker 2: That's big, bro. Hey, you would have been wrapped with

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Speaker 2: their Ford line, JB, as a key Ford yourself. Like,

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Speaker 2: Kelsha Deere. 19-year-old, father-son draft pick, development player, not even

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Speaker 2: at all. And he kicks three goals in, you know,

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Speaker 2: a big final. Chole did nothing, but he hit packs

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Speaker 4: And Jack Gunston.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: What a great story. Because I think you're sort of.

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Speaker 4: It just really caps the imagination of the fans, especially

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Speaker 4: And for having his son to come along and really

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Speaker 2: They kick three, four, could have easily finished the night

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Speaker 2: four from the Wizard. That's seven goals from players in

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Speaker 4: That is insanity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's not something that... Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: you could predict.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, they're the mighty ducks, man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well.

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Speaker 1: They've got a truckload of charm.

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Speaker 2: You've just got to want to hope that they can

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Speaker 4: They did the basics well as well, Brown Dog. You know,

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Speaker 4: Joe Newcomb's unbelievable, but the rest of the team. So, clearly,

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Speaker 4: Mitch was a big fundamentals player. He's high IQ, but

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Speaker 4: didn't he, Brown Dog? Around the club, before a game,

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Speaker 4: the two hours before a game, you watch Mitch, he'd

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Speaker 4: be walking around playing a little games of footy golf

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Speaker 4: surprised if he's passed that message on to his players,

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Speaker 4: how clean they are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: He was always just trying to dribble balls through walls

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Speaker 1: Like the Dacos brothers would have been.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That level of obsession. Correct.

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Speaker 2: And no, they're big on doing the basics well, you know,

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Speaker 4: So....

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Speaker 2: They've got all the ingredients if they handle big moments

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Speaker 2: Friday night that they can handle big moments. The doggies,

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Speaker 2: the doggies can't.

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Speaker 1: Again, the second break, we're going to really tee off

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Speaker 1: on them. But I want to speak about.

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Speaker 4: Do we think Brisbane... How do you rate Brisbane's win?

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Speaker 2: Good. I think they put the cue in the rack

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Speaker 2: halfway through the third quarter, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: They could have beat them by 12 goals if they wanted.

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Speaker 2: It was quite funny, JB, because I interviewed Fakes pre-game

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Speaker 2: and he bristled at me. He wasn't happy with my

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Speaker 2: line of questioning. What do you mean? I said to him,

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Speaker 2: you've come into tonight, best side in the competition. You've

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Speaker 2: won 10 of 12 since round.

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Speaker 5: 12 and.

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Speaker 2: I said, but this is final footy fakes, and the

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Speaker 2: one thing that you haven't done is won the tackle

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Speaker 2: count since round 18 versus the Eagles. Why are you

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Speaker 2: in the competition. Is that something you've addressed and you

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Speaker 2: want to see tonight?

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Speaker 6: Jesus.

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Speaker 2: And he bristled. And Hodgie picked up on it in

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Speaker 2: the broadcast.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean bristled? What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: He paused and his face expression changed. You know why,

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Speaker 2: Brown Dog? You know why?

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Speaker 4: Because that was the message all week. So they always bristle.

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Speaker 2: They always bristle when it hits close to home.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And he must have known because they out-tackled him. They

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Speaker 2: out-hunted him. They were hard in that first quarter. And

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Speaker 2: then after the game, he comes up and goes, you prick, Brownie,

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Speaker 2: why'd you ask me that question? He goes, it was

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Speaker 2: like a losing coach's press conference pre-game. And we laughed

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Speaker 4: Take us behind the scenes, though, because I know Hodgie

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Speaker 4: Hodgie give you that information? So a bit of inside information.

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Speaker 4: That's why. Fags bristled.

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Speaker 2: Well, Hodgie didn't give me that, but I needed a

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Speaker 2: question because the one thing, good sides usually are very

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Speaker 2: high in the pressure rating, right? And so for them

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Speaker 2: a glaring stat for me. And then when I looked

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Speaker 2: the tackle count by 15, 20, 30, right?

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Their ball movement is so good. Jeez, they're good by foot, JB,

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Speaker 4: They're sharp, Baz. Dane Zorka. Well, it's handy when Dane Zorka,

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Speaker 4: your best player, who won the best and fairest in

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Speaker 4: That was surprising by Vossi and the boys. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How did you rate Vossi's coaching performance?

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Speaker 4: I don't think it was great. Well, clearly it wasn't great.

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Speaker 4: They looked as if they were going to try and

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Speaker 4: save the game, didn't they? So I was surprised at

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Speaker 4: But TDK is the sub. You just play him in

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Speaker 4: to allow Dane Zorko, who's your biggest prime mover, along

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Speaker 4: with Lockie Neal, just to run around on his own.

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Speaker 1: We're going to tee off.

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Speaker 4: The way the Blues set the field up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to that. Let's go to the

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Speaker 1: other winning team. How is this for a stat?

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Speaker 3: Since 2011, if you're a Cats fan, you've enjoyed nine

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Speaker 3: prelim finals.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's insane.

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Speaker 8: It's a disgrace.

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Speaker 2: Perennial success.

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Speaker 1: Mate, you have no right to talk today after your

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Speaker 1: shit team.

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Speaker 8: It was a disgrace.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to them. You sound bad. What's happened?

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Speaker 8: I've just been, I'm just upset and I'm angry at

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Speaker 8: the lady.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you've been walking around living in a

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Speaker 2: false sense of reality for a fair while?

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Speaker 8: 84 points in a qualifying finals.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to it.

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Speaker 2: We thought they were good shots.

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Speaker 4: We should just flip over. Let's just get to it. Hey, boys,

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Speaker 4: Tom Hawkins. Does he play?

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 5: Why not?

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Speaker 4: He played VFL on the weekend. How'd he go? Shannon

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Speaker 4: Neal was actually pretty good on Thursday night. He looks

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Speaker 4: like he's the next Tom Hawkins. When I say next

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Speaker 4: Tom Hawkins in terms of his position, I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: he's going to go down as one of the all-time

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Speaker 4: great forwards, but does Hawkins come in? You can trust

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Speaker 4: him in the big games, big Tomahawk. We haven't seen

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Speaker 4: it from young Shannon Neal.

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Speaker 5: You would, right?

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Speaker 1: Why not, Kev? He knows how to win a grand final.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Ford Struts has been looking so good without him. Like,

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Speaker 2: it's a big– and do you know what the other

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Speaker 2: thing is?

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Speaker 4: It's a big call.

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Speaker 2: He's won three flags. He's a superstar. Like, it would

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Speaker 2: be devastating to drop a young kid who's played really

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Speaker 2: well over the last month in the final series as well,

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Speaker 2: who might be there for the next 10 years. You

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Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, he might never recover from that.

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Speaker 4: That's true. Well, Max Holmes, I tell you what, he's

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Speaker 4: playing like a man possessed. He missed the final. the

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Speaker 4: grand final in 2022 because of that hamstring injury. He

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Speaker 4: was unbelievable the other night, along with Paddy Dangerfield. He's

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Speaker 4: lost now. at the age of 35. Geelong manage their players,

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Speaker 4: their senior players, better than any team in the competition.

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Speaker 4: Chris Scott never plays injured players. Tom Stewart, who's their

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Speaker 4: vice-captain and one of their best players, pulled out before

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Speaker 4: the game. And.

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Speaker 4: Then he's obviously going to be fresh. And Dangerfield's been

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Speaker 4: managed to the minute to have maximum impact in the finals.

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Speaker 4: So it wouldn't surprise me if Hawkins plays.

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Speaker 1: Put it that way.

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Speaker 4: The way he manages his players, Chris Scott, he would

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Speaker 4: have a plan.

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Speaker 3: Is this a naive question? Would the AFL let Geelong

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Speaker 3: play their prelim at home?

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: Is that a bit unfair?

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Speaker 4: Who cares?

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Speaker 2: They have a significant advantage playing home games over the

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Speaker 2: course of that home and away season.

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Speaker 4: What about though if it is GWS? It's a fair question.

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Speaker 4: It's a valid question. It's a fair question. Geelong versus GWS.

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Speaker 3: They'd probably get as big a crowd if it was

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Speaker 3: in Geelong in that event.

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Speaker 1: Is that right, Jonathan?

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Speaker 4: I would say no. The other night, 97,000 Hawthorne v.

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Speaker 4: Western Blue. Yeah, two Melbourne teams. Yeah, I know two

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Speaker 4: Melbourne teams, but not the biggest draws. You would at

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Speaker 4: least get 65, wouldn't you? That's the only game for

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Speaker 4: that weekend on a Saturday night. I think they're playing

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Speaker 4: the MCG. I think there's some contracts in place there

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Speaker 4: as well, but Yeah, they're in good nick, Geelong. They

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Speaker 4: look sharp. They'll be better for the week off because

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Speaker 4: they've got a few veterans which will like that.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're going to take a break and then

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Speaker 3: come back and tee off on all.

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Speaker 1: The shit losing teams, especially Port Adelaide. I can't wait

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Speaker 1: for that. But to take us to the break, the

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Speaker 1: hottest new music in town, it's Cunstaff.

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Speaker 4: Jack Cunstaff. See you in a second. Jack Cunstaff.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Brownies Podcast. Follow us at Brownies Podcast, TikTok, Instagram.

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Speaker 1: You had a... Oh, Beck. How's the golf going, sister?

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Speaker 2: Oh, the putting is rough.

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Speaker 4: John.

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Speaker 2: Ask Jamie for advice.

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Speaker 4: Yes, John. I can't believe she's asking me for putting

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Speaker 4: tips when last week I lost 200 bucks. because I

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Speaker 4: three-putted from 10 feet. I was playing with pain. Fatty

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Speaker 4: Morton cleaned your wallet. Fatty Morton got me. He got me.

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Speaker 4: So don't ask me for putting tips, but hit it

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Speaker 4: to the one in the middle. One in the middle, Beck.

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Speaker 1: Is that good advice? Write that down.

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Speaker 8: I need a pen.

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Speaker 4: Just tap it in. Just tap.

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Speaker 1: Ba, ba, ba, ba. We are ships. In front of

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Speaker 1: a full house.

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Speaker 8: Stop smiling, Campbell.

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Speaker 1: We've got the power to lose.

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Speaker 4: Power to lose.

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Speaker 1: The power to shit the bed. We are extremely shit.

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Speaker 4: Hang on, man.

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Speaker 2: It was as bad a finals performance as you could

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Speaker 2: possibly reach out.

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Speaker 1: What was that?

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Speaker 7: I had someone say it's the worst finals performance I've

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Speaker 7: seen since Port Adelaide in 2007 against Geelong.

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Speaker 8: I was like, thank you again for that.

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Speaker 4: You actually hit the front, though, early in the second quarter.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you forget that, actually.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, see, essentially that's a win for us then, really.

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Speaker 4: Well, that just shows how shit you were after that, especially.

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Speaker 8: What I want to know.

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Speaker 4: Hey, what were you doing starting at Horn France on

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Speaker 4: the bench, Broads? I know you're not the coach. What

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Speaker 4: are you doing starting Horn France on the bench? The

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Speaker 4: most destructive midfielder in the game. The opposition's got Patrick Dangerfield.

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Speaker 4: You've got the young Patrick Dangerfield.

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Speaker 2: And he's sitting getting splinters up his arse.

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Speaker 4: Arse.

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Speaker 8: Rotations. You've got to be wary of the rotations, you know?

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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, of course.

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Speaker 1: Where's your second chance held?

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Speaker 8: Port Adelaide.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so you've heard that right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we play the Hawks in Adelaide this Friday night.

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Speaker 1: That's the only thing I worry about your boys is

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Speaker 1: that they're so embarrassed Port Adelaide.

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Speaker 2: They will respond. Of course they'll respond. Kenny's got a

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Speaker 2: unique ability to rally the troops, you know, over the

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Speaker 2: last few years.

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Speaker 1: Like he did on the weekend.

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Speaker 2: No, but when they've been under duress during the week.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 2: They come out and it binds you together and they

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Speaker 2: put up spirited performances. So that's the one thing that

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Speaker 2: Hawks need to be aware of. But I think as

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Speaker 2: the game goes on, you know, like they'll just tear

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Speaker 2: them apart.

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Speaker 7: What I want to know, and you two have both

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Speaker 7: played in finals and played in grand finals, how were

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Speaker 7: they not ready to go? They looked like as soon

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Speaker 7: as the ball bounced, it looks like they weren't ready.

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Speaker 7: They had a week and a half to prepare.

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Speaker 1: Doggies too.

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Speaker 4: Pressure.

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Speaker 6: How?

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Speaker 4: I don't understand.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, you've got to have them at absolute fever pitch.

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Speaker 2: Well, they've got a young– their best players are young.

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Speaker 4: So they haven't been able to handle the finals pressure

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Speaker 4: yet or haven't been exposed to it. So it can

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Speaker 4: take some time. And unfortunately, they weren't able to cope

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Speaker 4: with it again. And then senior players struggled. So Travis Bloke,

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Speaker 4: I think he had five or six goals kicked on.

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Speaker 4: Charlie Dixon. Charlie Dixon looks like me, trying to get

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Speaker 4: a kick against the kids the other night. Where'd that

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Speaker 4: pirate go?

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Speaker 1: That pirate was seldom useful.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Charles didn't have a great game.

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Speaker 1: Does Kenny catch a bullet if it's straight sets again?

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Speaker 2: I think he'll struggle to coach the Port Adelaide Footy

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Speaker 2: Club next year if they go in straight sets, especially

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Speaker 2: if it's a hiding.

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Speaker 8: Which would be, how often would the.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that would have ever happened, that the

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Speaker 7: fact that you have made back-to-back finals, this will be

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Speaker 7: three years in a row, and have... Double chance, three

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Speaker 7: years in a row, and then to get sacked would

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Speaker 7: be unheard of.

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Speaker 3: But, okay, devil's advocate, you're still getting there, so you'd

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Speaker 3: rather get there than not get.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 1: So should he get a bullet for that? It's not

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Speaker 1: black and white, John.

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Speaker 7: As the great Vin Diesel said... Winning is winning. It

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Speaker 7: doesn't matter whether you win by an inch or a mile.

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Speaker 8: Winning is winning.

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Speaker 4: If only you had Vin Diesel out there, you might

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Speaker 4: have been some sort of chance.

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Speaker 1: Mate, Vin would have got 30 touches easy.

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Speaker 2: They just needed to be faster and more furious.

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Speaker 1: Exactly right.

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Speaker 4: Who has to wear the responsibility of Zach Bunners? So

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Speaker 4: I have an issue now. So we've spoken about Geelong,

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Speaker 4: who manage their players. Better than any team in the competition.

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Speaker 4: Brad Scott, I'm sorry, Chris Scott, very calm under pressure,

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Speaker 4: won't play unhealthy players. Zach Bartosz clearly goes in with

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Speaker 4: injury of some sort to his ribs. Doesn't last till halftime.

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Speaker 4: Connor Ozee, your captain, 10 or 12 weeks ago, declares himself,

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Speaker 4: doesn't last till quarter time with a hamstring injury. Okay,

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Speaker 4: they're your two best players or two of your best

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Speaker 4: players along with Horne Francis and they can't stand up.

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Speaker 4: under the pressure situation after declaring themselves. That's an issue? Yep.

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Speaker 4: Who do we lay the blame at there, Brown Dog?

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Speaker 2: Both player and coach and fitness staff. You've got to

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Speaker 2: put some trust in your players because at this time

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Speaker 2: of year, everyone's playing under a little bit of duress

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Speaker 2: and carrying injuries. But if you put your hand up

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Speaker 2: to play, it is absolutely incumbent on you to be

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Speaker 2: able to get through a game of footy. You have

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Speaker 2: to be able to push through the pain barrier. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you need a little bit of luck, you know, to

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Speaker 2: get through. But you run the risk of significantly letting

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Speaker 2: down your team and yourself. If you put your hand up, play,

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Speaker 2: coach backs you in, and you fall over.

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Speaker 4: Especially in big games, Brando. No question about that. We've

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Speaker 4: been fortunate enough to play with many great players, and

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Speaker 4: part of their qualities were once they put their hand up,

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Speaker 4: especially in big games, they delivered more often than not.

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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what you do. You put a

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Speaker 4: target on your back if you declare yourself. And also,

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Speaker 4: if you don't deliver in terms of being able to

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Speaker 4: play out the game and contribute... Also, the coach then

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Speaker 4: lacks trust in you and the medical staff lack trust

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Speaker 4: in you next time it comes to that big decision

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Speaker 4: as to whether to play or not.

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Speaker 2: You put your hand up to play in that 2004

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Speaker 2: Grand Final with that knee injury or leg injury. Talk

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Speaker 2: us through that because it was pretty bad and you

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Speaker 2: were clearly struggling.

674
00:27:18,130 --> 00:27:22,419
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's the problem with finals. You're going to

675
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,420
Speaker 4: have to roll the dice on many occasions, and they're

676
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 4: the ones that sort of you get through. I got

677
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 4: through the game. I played all four quarters, and it

678
00:27:32,060 --> 00:27:35,310
Speaker 4: was just one of those lacked contribution games. which a

679
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:37,210
Speaker 4: lot of the players did on that day. But at

680
00:27:37,230 --> 00:27:38,770
Speaker 4: the end of the day, you're able to still stay

681
00:27:38,790 --> 00:27:41,409
Speaker 4: out there and contribute and help out, not end up

682
00:27:41,470 --> 00:27:43,909
Speaker 4: on the bench, a man down, Brando. That's the difference.

683
00:27:43,930 --> 00:27:46,260
Speaker 4: So that's the one that's going to be hard. And

684
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: that's part of their development as young leaders. For Butters,

685
00:27:48,859 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 4: who we know was voted the most courageous player, we

686
00:27:51,619 --> 00:27:54,859
Speaker 4: know he's tough. But this is another level. This is

687
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: another level to be able to go out there. I

688
00:27:56,700 --> 00:28:00,230
Speaker 4: saw one of the most– not most sacrificial acts– one

689
00:28:00,270 --> 00:28:03,689
Speaker 4: of the greatest– most courageous performance ever seen when Nigel

690
00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:05,590
Speaker 4: Lappin went out and played with two broken ribs and

691
00:28:05,630 --> 00:28:08,460
Speaker 4: ultimately a punctured lung. and played well in the grand

692
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 4: final in 2003. So that's why these players get lauded.

693
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,580
Speaker 4: That's why they go down as legends of the game.

694
00:28:14,619 --> 00:28:17,010
Speaker 4: So you declare yourself, you've got to be able to

695
00:28:17,030 --> 00:28:17,450
Speaker 4: get through.

696
00:28:18,330 --> 00:28:21,710
Speaker 2: Classic example was Trent Crowde and myself in the 2008

697
00:28:21,710 --> 00:28:23,730
Speaker 2: grand final. So I had two broken bones in my

698
00:28:23,790 --> 00:28:26,430
Speaker 2: right foot, third and fourth metatarsal. He had the exact

699
00:28:26,450 --> 00:28:28,290
Speaker 2: same injury, right? Crowde.

700
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:28,670
Speaker 4: Yep.

701
00:28:29,109 --> 00:28:31,710
Speaker 2: And we both put our hands up to play through

702
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,020
Speaker 2: the final series. Yeah. I got through unscathed, finished the

703
00:28:36,060 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: game off and everything. Crowdy's foot exploded, right?

704
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:39,420
Speaker 4: Exploded, yeah.

705
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: With a bit of help from some painkilling relief. Because

706
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,460
Speaker 2: he's bigger and more powerful, you know, the force going

707
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,660
Speaker 2: through his foot on a leg just exploded. He never

708
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: played football ever again. Yeah. And it cost him, and

709
00:28:50,940 --> 00:28:52,739
Speaker 2: he got the premiership medallion, but it cost him his

710
00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: career in the end.

711
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: That's wild. It's wild.

712
00:28:55,660 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: So it can happen.

713
00:28:57,620 --> 00:29:00,060
Speaker 4: And that's the thing. It's a calculated risk. So unfortunately

714
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 4: for those boys. They weren't able to get it done,

715
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 4: the Port Adelaide boys. What about the fallout of the

716
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,450
Speaker 4: Western Bulldogs? I've got an issue again. Starting on the bench, finals.

717
00:29:08,830 --> 00:29:11,330
Speaker 4: You've got to start well. Now, I understand midfield rotations.

718
00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:15,790
Speaker 4: Jamari Ugel-Hagen, your most destructive forward, one of your best

719
00:29:15,850 --> 00:29:19,780
Speaker 4: match winners, along with Mark Spohn and Pally, starting on

720
00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 4: the timber. I just cannot understand that. I cannot understand

721
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: why coaches try and get tricky come finals. You do

722
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,020
Speaker 4: the basics well in finals. That's why you're ultimately winning.

723
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,950
Speaker 4: So why would you start Jamara there? Clearly it was

724
00:29:32,010 --> 00:29:34,010
Speaker 4: in his head. He was a non-contributor for the whole

725
00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:36,550
Speaker 4: game then. I just thought it was a shocking start

726
00:29:36,570 --> 00:29:40,860
Speaker 4: to the game. Essentially getting him, well, it's just a

727
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,060
Speaker 4: shocking way to start the game.

728
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: Is it a matter of coaches trying to do weird

729
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,940
Speaker 3: shit for no reason in the final?

730
00:29:46,020 --> 00:29:50,150
Speaker 4: Sometimes. Sometimes. And we know Bevo will spin the magnets,

731
00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:52,210
Speaker 4: Brown Dog. We know he does that, but don't do

732
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:52,750
Speaker 4: it at the start.

733
00:29:52,970 --> 00:29:56,050
Speaker 2: They're trying to outfox the opposite coaching box because we're

734
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:57,750
Speaker 2: all thinking, oh, how are Hawthorne going to match up

735
00:29:57,790 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: against the three tools of the doggies, right? And they're thinking, okay,

736
00:30:02,220 --> 00:30:05,260
Speaker 2: they've got all these plans in place for Darcy, Norton

737
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: and Hugo Hagen. So what about if we start a

738
00:30:07,660 --> 00:30:09,780
Speaker 2: bit small and we'll start him on the bench? It

739
00:30:09,820 --> 00:30:13,060
Speaker 2: might throw Hawthorne's, I don't know, defensive mindset, but it's

740
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: just rubbish. Start your best players on the ground. If

741
00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:19,570
Speaker 2: Hugo Hagen takes a big mark early in the game,

742
00:30:19,610 --> 00:30:21,770
Speaker 2: if it's Hugo Hagen kicking that first goal instead of

743
00:30:21,810 --> 00:30:25,729
Speaker 2: Norton in the first 30 seconds, his night might change.

744
00:30:26,050 --> 00:30:27,970
Speaker 4: That's right. His head wasn't in the game, Brown Dog.

745
00:30:28,550 --> 00:30:28,790
Speaker 6: Yeah.

746
00:30:29,390 --> 00:30:32,630
Speaker 4: No doubt about that. And it's just, yeah, I totally agree.

747
00:30:32,650 --> 00:30:34,430
Speaker 4: Spot on with that. So I thought that was poor.

748
00:30:34,890 --> 00:30:38,390
Speaker 4: Tim English, I'd be certainly looking at trading him or

749
00:30:38,430 --> 00:30:40,350
Speaker 4: moving him on, getting value for him. I know he's

750
00:30:40,430 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: All-Australian last year, but he was well beaten by Lloyd Meek,

751
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:46,780
Speaker 4: who's been a revelation for Hawthorne. But I'm just, you know,

752
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 4: Tim English.

753
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 8: Just signed a five-year deal.

754
00:30:50,390 --> 00:30:52,370
Speaker 4: Well, there you go. Well, I'll tell you what, there's

755
00:30:52,410 --> 00:30:55,150
Speaker 4: the value. There's the value right there because Sam Darcy,

756
00:30:55,690 --> 00:30:56,990
Speaker 4: he's a generational talent.

757
00:30:57,030 --> 00:30:59,510
Speaker 2: He wants the ruck. He's a generational talent.

758
00:30:59,670 --> 00:31:02,230
Speaker 4: You've got value there because I think there's still some

759
00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:04,690
Speaker 4: improvements that need to be made to that Bulldogs list. Right.

760
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:07,580
Speaker 1: Have you heard Cain Corn's... Coming for Bevor.

761
00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:07,890
Speaker 5: Yeah.

762
00:31:07,910 --> 00:31:09,300
Speaker 1: He's been going all year, though.

763
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,700
Speaker 3: He's been like jaws in the water just waiting for

764
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:12,940
Speaker 3: them to stuff up finals.

765
00:31:12,980 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: Do you know what he described?

766
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: He said, we're going to give you a Lamborghini, I

767
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: think he said. We're going to fill it up with,

768
00:31:18,620 --> 00:31:19,810
Speaker 2: you know, unleaded petrol.

769
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:20,010
Speaker 4: Yeah.

770
00:31:20,150 --> 00:31:23,330
Speaker 2: And all you need to do, right, is jump in

771
00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:27,390
Speaker 2: the driver's side and drive straight. That's... Because he reckons

772
00:31:27,410 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: that the recruiting's been great and the trading's been great

773
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: and they've got five of the best 50 players in

774
00:31:33,660 --> 00:31:34,060
Speaker 2: the comp.

775
00:31:34,220 --> 00:31:34,420
Speaker 4: Yeah.

776
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,370
Speaker 2: And they've got, you know, and that didn't include the

777
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,130
Speaker 2: fullback Jones and Libra. He said they're stacked full of talent.

778
00:31:41,810 --> 00:31:43,890
Speaker 2: and all Bevo needs to do is drive straight, and

779
00:31:43,910 --> 00:31:44,710
Speaker 2: he can't drive.

780
00:31:44,850 --> 00:31:45,550
Speaker 5: That's a good clip.

781
00:31:45,710 --> 00:31:48,209
Speaker 2: That's a good clip. And Bevo, jeez, I wouldn't want

782
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: to be Cain Cornson bumping into Bevo any time soon.

783
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:52,980
Speaker 4: Well, remember he got a hold of Damien Barrett in

784
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,580
Speaker 4: the toilet. It's a Brownlow medal, I think, Bevo.

785
00:31:55,740 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 6: Did he?

786
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,820
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, who's got bigger pipes?

787
00:31:57,980 --> 00:31:58,380
Speaker 2: No one.

788
00:31:58,420 --> 00:32:01,550
Speaker 4: Luke Beveridge or Adam Kingsley? Luke Beveridge.

789
00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:04,630
Speaker 2: I'm going to say Kingsley. Kingsley's been doing a little

790
00:32:04,650 --> 00:32:05,350
Speaker 2: bit of beach weights.

791
00:32:05,390 --> 00:32:06,730
Speaker 1: He's generally thicker, though.

792
00:32:06,910 --> 00:32:07,330
Speaker 2: Yeah.

793
00:32:07,650 --> 00:32:08,610
Speaker 1: Let's measure him up.

794
00:32:08,650 --> 00:32:09,250
Speaker 2: That's all we can do.

795
00:32:09,310 --> 00:32:11,250
Speaker 4: We can get... Measure up.

796
00:32:11,290 --> 00:32:11,750
Speaker 2: Measure up.

797
00:32:11,870 --> 00:32:12,469
Speaker 4: Yeah.

798
00:32:12,490 --> 00:32:14,970
Speaker 2: Tape and go around their biceps in the pre-season.

799
00:32:14,990 --> 00:32:16,630
Speaker 1: And the winner gets a roast chicken.

800
00:32:16,830 --> 00:32:18,690
Speaker 2: I don't think we should be doing it this week, though.

801
00:32:19,470 --> 00:32:22,860
Speaker 4: My mail is at the GWS training facility just down

802
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: the road from where they play home games. When King

803
00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: has come with their dumbbells, they didn't go high enough

804
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,260
Speaker 4: with the dumbbells. They actually had to get higher dumbbells.

805
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 7: Really?

806
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:32,820
Speaker 6: Really.

807
00:32:33,220 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So they went up to maybe about 40.

808
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 4: Kingers was blowing that out of the water. So when

809
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 4: I was there, there was like 60, 70 kilo dumbbells.

810
00:32:41,780 --> 00:32:44,300
Speaker 3: We just mentioned some good punditry from Kane Corns, one

811
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,100
Speaker 3: of the masters of punditry.

812
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:49,700
Speaker 1: You're like a, what would you say, dog? You're like

813
00:32:49,780 --> 00:32:51,030
Speaker 1: a master's apprentice.

814
00:32:51,050 --> 00:32:52,810
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said the word incumbent before.

815
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:53,450
Speaker 4: You did, man.

816
00:32:53,470 --> 00:32:54,890
Speaker 1: That was very, it didn't go unnoticed.

817
00:32:54,970 --> 00:32:58,730
Speaker 3: Now, let's go to Sam McClure talking Carlton earlier in

818
00:32:58,750 --> 00:32:59,050
Speaker 3: the year.

819
00:32:59,510 --> 00:33:03,510
Speaker 2: Because he went in the pre-season big on Harley Reid, right,

820
00:33:03,530 --> 00:33:05,650
Speaker 2: and saying the West Coast Eagles definitely weren't going to

821
00:33:05,670 --> 00:33:09,820
Speaker 2: pick him one. So he completely botched that. Surely he

822
00:33:09,860 --> 00:33:13,420
Speaker 2: doesn't have another massive take this year as big as

823
00:33:13,460 --> 00:33:15,340
Speaker 2: that that he could muck up. Surely he doesn't.

824
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,540
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's have a little.

825
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 6: And if anyone tries to tell you down the street

826
00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:20,830
Speaker 6: that they shouldn't be, then.

827
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:21,770
Speaker 5: Woo-hoo!

828
00:33:22,290 --> 00:33:23,030
Speaker 4: Losing back!

829
00:33:23,170 --> 00:33:24,630
Speaker 5: Carlton have to be premiership favourites.

830
00:33:25,660 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 6: And if anyone tries to tell you down the street

831
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:30,300
Speaker 6: that they shouldn't be, they're not following the game properly.

832
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 6: I have thought about this every single which way.

833
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 5: They want for nothing. They have an excellent list.

834
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:40,300
Speaker 6: They've got two of the all-time.

835
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:45,020
Speaker 5: Great forwards of the last 20 years. And they've got

836
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 5: a star-studded midfielder. The Carlton Football Club have to go.

837
00:33:49,180 --> 00:33:52,510
Speaker 6: Not one better than they went last year.

838
00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,780
Speaker 5: They have to go two better. If they're not winning

839
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 5: the premiership this year, something has gone wrong.

840
00:33:58,380 --> 00:34:02,310
Speaker 2: LAUGHTER Mate, if you're.

841
00:34:02,210 --> 00:34:06,370
Speaker 3: Going to be one of these antagonistic pundits, you have

842
00:34:06,410 --> 00:34:07,470
Speaker 3: to be smart as well.

843
00:34:07,890 --> 00:34:09,770
Speaker 1: And that's some dumb shit right there.

844
00:34:09,910 --> 00:34:13,450
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have the ability to win the premiership

845
00:34:14,290 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: and they showed that on Saturday night.

846
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,620
Speaker 1: Why would you speak in such absolutes that early in

847
00:34:18,660 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: the season? Well, I think that's.

848
00:34:19,820 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 2: When they were flying, right? They were flying. But we

849
00:34:23,420 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: were up there Saturday night. They didn't come to play

850
00:34:25,380 --> 00:34:27,940
Speaker 2: at all, at all. I'll tell you what, it was

851
00:34:27,980 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: enjoyable in your ears.

852
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 4: Wasn't it? Gary Lyon at one stage turned to me

853
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,450
Speaker 4: and goes, who's that? Who's that commentating? I said, that's it.

854
00:34:35,570 --> 00:34:36,390
Speaker 2: That's it. Brown Dog.

855
00:34:36,430 --> 00:34:39,910
Speaker 4: He said, who? I said, Campbell. Campbell. And he was

856
00:34:39,989 --> 00:34:40,650
Speaker 4: up and about there.

857
00:34:40,690 --> 00:34:44,430
Speaker 3: You're telling me G Lyon complimented C Brown.

858
00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:47,860
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely. Down on the boundary there. That Hodgie there.

859
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,180
Speaker 6: Yep.

860
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: Dale Thomas.

861
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,700
Speaker 4: Dale Thomas was there. Daisy was there. And Brown Dog.

862
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,940
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what, Brown Dog's contribution, because sometimes

863
00:34:54,980 --> 00:34:58,049
Speaker 4: the The boundary riders just give the injuries and give

864
00:34:58,090 --> 00:35:00,660
Speaker 4: the subs. Not you. They wanted more from that.

865
00:35:00,860 --> 00:35:02,299
Speaker 2: Colour. Yeah, they wanted more.

866
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 4: Inside information. Yeah, they did.

867
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,370
Speaker 2: My message was just butt in as much as you

868
00:35:06,410 --> 00:35:08,730
Speaker 2: possibly can. Get to the broadcast.

869
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:09,370
Speaker 8: Yes or no.

870
00:35:09,390 --> 00:35:12,190
Speaker 7: Did you place a bet? on the horses or the

871
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:14,430
Speaker 7: dogs whilst commentating the game? Were you on your phone

872
00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:15,150
Speaker 7: at any stage?

873
00:35:15,230 --> 00:35:15,430
Speaker 4: Honestly.

874
00:35:15,469 --> 00:35:17,110
Speaker 8: I was just having a look at what was running.

875
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: I was watching the replay of Mornington Glory winning the

876
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 2: Group 1 because our little mate Wayne Crawford owns Mornington Glory.

877
00:35:24,420 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does too.

878
00:35:25,260 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was just keeping up to date with

879
00:35:27,020 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: what had happened at the Valley.

880
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,100
Speaker 1: By the way, can you get Wayne in? If Hawks win.

881
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,700
Speaker 1: It's his 50th today. Happy birthday, Wayne.

882
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,700
Speaker 5: Happy birthday, Wayne.

883
00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:34,379
Speaker 2: But.

884
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,860
Speaker 1: Get him in if you win this weekend.

885
00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:37,660
Speaker 5: Get him in next week.

886
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: What I'll say about Carlton is, like, the blueprint to

887
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:47,100
Speaker 2: beat Brisbane, right, was very simple. Take the uncontested marks

888
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: off them, because they'll pick you apart, right? Match them inside, right,

889
00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:54,490
Speaker 2: with your hardness, and when you get a chance, you

890
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: need deep inside Ford 50s.

891
00:35:56,210 --> 00:35:56,450
Speaker 4: Deep.

892
00:35:56,550 --> 00:36:00,189
Speaker 2: At least make Harris Andrews and Payne and Starsevich. Force

893
00:36:00,210 --> 00:36:03,899
Speaker 2: them to defend, right? In that first quarter, Brisbane Lions

894
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,100
Speaker 2: had 36 marks. Majority of them were uncontested. They had

895
00:36:08,140 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: eight inside 50s that were all shallow. All the intercept

896
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 2: marks were across half-back. And, mate, who was the best

897
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 2: player on the ground in the first half? Dane Zorko.

898
00:36:15,820 --> 00:36:17,940
Speaker 1: And they just picked them apart. You know when it

899
00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:18,540
Speaker 1: was 60-0?

900
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

901
00:36:19,070 --> 00:36:21,370
Speaker 1: Do you reckon when it was 30-0, Vossi could have

902
00:36:21,410 --> 00:36:22,170
Speaker 1: done something different?

903
00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:24,190
Speaker 2: Well, he pulled the trigger on the sub, but, like,

904
00:36:24,250 --> 00:36:28,830
Speaker 2: why is Deconing sub anyway? Yeah. No side has been

905
00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:32,529
Speaker 2: scoreless in a final since 1974, right? Good grief. And

906
00:36:32,910 --> 00:36:34,390
Speaker 2: with three and a half minutes to go when they

907
00:36:34,410 --> 00:36:35,990
Speaker 2: were still scoreless. Scoreless.

908
00:36:36,030 --> 00:36:36,969
Speaker 1: We were going back, mate.

909
00:36:37,010 --> 00:36:37,910
Speaker 2: Back, back, back, back.

910
00:36:37,930 --> 00:36:38,970
Speaker 4: At halftime, Brandon.

911
00:36:38,989 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: Swamp was going back to 9-0-3.

912
00:36:41,050 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 8: Yep.

913
00:36:41,390 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 2: If they hadn't scored at halftime.

914
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 4: Oh, man.

915
00:36:43,540 --> 00:36:43,739
Speaker 3: 9-0-3.

916
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 4: It's amazing, isn't it? Yeah, in the VFL era. It was, yeah,

917
00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:51,859
Speaker 4: they got smacked in centre-bounce too, which that's their one wood,

918
00:36:52,580 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 4: the Blues. And you think if they're going to be

919
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:56,219
Speaker 4: able to compete, they've got to be able to win centre-bounce.

920
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:58,390
Speaker 4: get in their forward half and then lock it in.

921
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,779
Speaker 4: They got smashed out of centre-bound, so then they're on

922
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,140
Speaker 4: the back foot territory-wise. And Dane Zorko just did what

923
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: he pleased. He just came up on the back of

924
00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 4: the play and I think he had 19 touch in

925
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,730
Speaker 4: the first half, didn't he?

926
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was very good. And Durden and Motlop and

927
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,670
Speaker 2: Brodie Kemp and all the role players, unsighted. You know,

928
00:37:17,710 --> 00:37:20,230
Speaker 2: Kripper couldn't have done any more while she had a crack.

929
00:37:20,750 --> 00:37:24,569
Speaker 2: You know, Mackay was good. He'd free and he... Got

930
00:37:24,590 --> 00:37:26,070
Speaker 2: his hands to a few that just came out. He

931
00:37:26,090 --> 00:37:26,969
Speaker 2: could have kicked four or five.

932
00:37:27,170 --> 00:37:30,509
Speaker 4: Chincotta was the obvious one to play on Zorka, Brown Dog,

933
00:37:30,590 --> 00:37:32,180
Speaker 4: and he was dropped before the game.

934
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,500
Speaker 2: And Matt Kennedy they subbed out, who's one guy that

935
00:37:35,540 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: you know will have a crack. You know, they subbed

936
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: him out.

937
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: John, if you're a Carlton fan, if you're a Carlton fan,

938
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 3: is there anything positive to say after this year?

939
00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:52,859
Speaker 4: Anything positive to say? Well, you've got Kripper. LAUGHTER Yeah.

940
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:58,219
Speaker 1: It's back in a second. Welcome back to Brownies Podcast.

941
00:37:58,260 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: I cannot wait for this round.

942
00:37:59,260 --> 00:38:01,100
Speaker 4: You've been to the tip lately, boys.

943
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,140
Speaker 1: I love going to the tip. Campbell's never been. Becky,

944
00:38:03,180 --> 00:38:04,460
Speaker 1: ever been to a tip? Do you know what a

945
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:04,900
Speaker 1: tip is?

946
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:05,780
Speaker 5: No.

947
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: It's a big hole in the ground where people chuck

948
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: out their shit.

949
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: I've never been.

950
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: Brodie, you been to the tip, man?

951
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:11,859
Speaker 2: Oh, I have.

952
00:38:11,940 --> 00:38:13,580
Speaker 8: It's a glorious experience.

953
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 7: You just see, it's almost just like when you go

954
00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:17,940
Speaker 7: into a sauna after a big night. You're just cleansing

955
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,899
Speaker 7: yourself of all the crap.

956
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,660
Speaker 8: You just see it. pouring out of you.

957
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: Me and my cousin found some nudie mags at the

958
00:38:22,660 --> 00:38:23,450
Speaker 1: tip when we were young.

959
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:24,690
Speaker 8: Oh, how exciting.

960
00:38:24,850 --> 00:38:26,469
Speaker 4: It is exciting. Which ones were they?

961
00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:29,370
Speaker 1: I think they were picture magazines. Picture magazines. The ones

962
00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:30,230
Speaker 1: you get at the servo.

963
00:38:30,290 --> 00:38:31,149
Speaker 4: They're low level.

964
00:38:31,350 --> 00:38:32,190
Speaker 1: Hey, good stuff.

965
00:38:32,450 --> 00:38:33,469
Speaker 5: Why do you ask?

966
00:38:33,810 --> 00:38:37,129
Speaker 4: Well, and I shouldn't have even asked Brown Dog this

967
00:38:37,170 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: because how can we expect a kid from Peppermint Grove...

968
00:38:40,780 --> 00:38:44,029
Speaker 4: In the white-collar suburbs of Perth, whoever have gone to

969
00:38:44,050 --> 00:38:46,250
Speaker 4: a tip before, they would have had helpers to do that.

970
00:38:46,290 --> 00:38:49,629
Speaker 8: They just ditch stuff in the poorer suburbs. Drive around

971
00:38:49,650 --> 00:38:50,770
Speaker 8: the corner and unload.

972
00:38:51,690 --> 00:38:54,190
Speaker 4: The tip on the Gold Coast is the best. So

973
00:38:54,250 --> 00:38:56,190
Speaker 4: it's free, for starters, if you live in the area.

974
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:56,870
Speaker 2: As they should be.

975
00:38:57,430 --> 00:39:00,029
Speaker 4: And they've got a recycling centre, like a little $ 2 centre,

976
00:39:00,050 --> 00:39:02,670
Speaker 4: where you go in there and you can buy everyone

977
00:39:02,730 --> 00:39:05,630
Speaker 4: else's shit that they've got rid of for $ 2 or

978
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:08,629
Speaker 4: even less. They've got golf clubs. They've got carpets there.

979
00:39:08,670 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: Jack wanted to put carpets in his tinny. And I'll

980
00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:14,020
Speaker 4: tell you what was just beside the carpets.

981
00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:14,340
Speaker 2: Yes?

982
00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 4: The $ 2, the 2001 premiership photo.

983
00:39:19,780 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 5: Look at it.

984
00:39:20,180 --> 00:39:21,629
Speaker 4: The premiership photo.

985
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:22,390
Speaker 2: From the ECG.

986
00:39:22,930 --> 00:39:23,629
Speaker 4: Have a look at that.

987
00:39:23,830 --> 00:39:26,509
Speaker 2: Why would someone want to throw out a frame 2001

988
00:39:26,510 --> 00:39:27,530
Speaker 2: premiership photo?

989
00:39:27,590 --> 00:39:28,770
Speaker 8: Look at Darryl White there.

990
00:39:28,890 --> 00:39:29,770
Speaker 4: Wowee.

991
00:39:29,790 --> 00:39:33,180
Speaker 1: Where's Uncle Martin? Point him out. I can't see him. Oh,

992
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: there he is.

993
00:39:34,030 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: He looks like right in the middle.

994
00:39:35,580 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: Uncle Fester's right there.

995
00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 4: I didn't realize Uncle Fester's got a bit of a

996
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: gap in the front. He looks menacing.

997
00:39:41,660 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: So how much was that going for?

998
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 5: $ 2.

999
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,370
Speaker 1: Or $ 3 if you just found it.

1000
00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: No, no, no.

1001
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:47,980
Speaker 4: I'll show you that.

1002
00:39:48,670 --> 00:39:49,830
Speaker 2: It's in good condition.

1003
00:39:50,650 --> 00:39:51,170
Speaker 5: Mate!

1004
00:39:51,650 --> 00:39:53,270
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in good condition, JB.

1005
00:39:53,350 --> 00:39:56,630
Speaker 4: Well, it is, and especially when I know all my teammates' signatures,

1006
00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:58,810
Speaker 4: I could just go around and just forge all those.

1007
00:39:58,989 --> 00:40:00,430
Speaker 4: That's going to be worth a hell of a lot

1008
00:40:00,450 --> 00:40:01,230
Speaker 4: more than $ 2.

1009
00:40:00,989 --> 00:40:04,260
Speaker 3: Does it hurt that one of your most formative memories

1010
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,140
Speaker 3: has been put in the tip by someone, John?

1011
00:40:06,219 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: Well, I grabbed it because I thought, I've got to

1012
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,540
Speaker 4: take this home because I need some memorabilia because a

1013
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 4: lot of mine was washed away. Yeah. Jeez, I was

1014
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: young then.

1015
00:40:14,180 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 8: Look at you.

1016
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: I was about to.

1017
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:16,380
Speaker 5: Virile.

1018
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: About to have the time of my life. LAUGHTER That's

1019
00:40:20,140 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 4: all I'll say. What about Lepa? Lepa's actually a good-looking man.

1020
00:40:24,460 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: And Lepa's got a neck.

1021
00:40:25,780 --> 00:40:25,980
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1022
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,899
Speaker 4: Lepa's got a neck in this photo. So what's happened

1023
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: to him? Great Scott. Jeez, we look young.

1024
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,780
Speaker 1: Lepa's... What am I saying? I think it was neck.

1025
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: Lepa.

1026
00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:37,300
Speaker 1: Sorry, I just lost my mind. Lepa.

1027
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 4: You called him Lepa.

1028
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: Lepa's neck just sunk into his body.

1029
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:42,500
Speaker 5: What happened?

1030
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,779
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude. It glanced in small like. It glanced in.

1031
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,180
Speaker 2: I'm like.

1032
00:40:47,660 --> 00:40:50,819
Speaker 2: This tip chat has rattled me. Like, what do you do?

1033
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool, man. You go in there and everything's free. Yeah,

1034
00:40:54,540 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: but it's all rubbish.

1035
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: No, no, no.

1036
00:40:56,219 --> 00:40:59,410
Speaker 1: There's a section where stuff's still good that people don't want.

1037
00:40:59,430 --> 00:41:01,649
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, this is a proper centre, Brown Dog. So

1038
00:41:01,670 --> 00:41:04,730
Speaker 4: you pay $ 2, $ 1, whatever it may be. There's records

1039
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:06,290
Speaker 4: in there. I'm going to spend a bit of time

1040
00:41:06,330 --> 00:41:08,830
Speaker 4: on the records during the week. I'll tell you what.

1041
00:41:08,850 --> 00:41:10,770
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. These boys will be able to

1042
00:41:10,810 --> 00:41:14,149
Speaker 4: buy the whole recycling centre. The highest money earners were

1043
00:41:14,190 --> 00:41:17,610
Speaker 4: revealed yesterday in the Herald Sun. The top 100 money

1044
00:41:17,710 --> 00:41:20,009
Speaker 4: earners in the AFL, boys. I'm just going to run

1045
00:41:20,050 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 4: you through the top 10. Lance didn't make it.

1046
00:41:22,850 --> 00:41:25,180
Speaker 2: Let's say whether they deserve to be or not. Yes

1047
00:41:25,260 --> 00:41:25,609
Speaker 2: or no.

1048
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:26,109
Speaker 7: Okay.

1049
00:41:26,820 --> 00:41:29,260
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll give you the price,

1050
00:41:29,580 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: and then if it's out of whack, I'll give you

1051
00:41:31,260 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: the average. But Tom Lynch, number one for Richmond.

1052
00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: A back-ended contract.

1053
00:41:37,660 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: Heavily back-ended. 1.4 to 1.5 he's on this year.

1054
00:41:41,219 --> 00:41:42,100
Speaker 1: Understandable.

1055
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 8: He's played 13 games in two years.

1056
00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:45,370
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but he won him a couple of flags.

1057
00:41:45,830 --> 00:41:46,990
Speaker 2: And it's back-ended.

1058
00:41:47,610 --> 00:41:50,050
Speaker 8: But imagine, all right, let's do it per game average

1059
00:41:50,110 --> 00:41:51,350
Speaker 8: this year. It would not be good.

1060
00:41:51,590 --> 00:41:54,510
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's where the team is. It doesn't really matter.

1061
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:55,670
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, really.

1062
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:57,050
Speaker 8: 100 grand a game.

1063
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,739
Speaker 1: Just how it happens. Who's next?

1064
00:42:00,650 --> 00:42:02,050
Speaker 4: Ben Mackay for Essendon.

1065
00:42:02,070 --> 00:42:05,630
Speaker 2: Second highest pay in the comp.

1066
00:42:05,630 --> 00:42:06,049
Speaker 4: 1.3 to 1.4.

1067
00:42:06,050 --> 00:42:09,029
Speaker 2: Not sure they're getting banked for that. Front-ended contract.

1068
00:42:09,180 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: Oh, my God.

1069
00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 4: So about 800 average over the course of that contract. Dusty,

1070
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,219
Speaker 4: number three, 1.2 to 1.3. Now, that's the end of

1071
00:42:16,260 --> 00:42:19,830
Speaker 4: his $ 8 million deal over seven years. Well, he's paid that.

1072
00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:20,550
Speaker 4: And some.

1073
00:42:20,570 --> 00:42:22,529
Speaker 2: They would have done that in merchandise.

1074
00:42:22,570 --> 00:42:22,830
Speaker 3: Fair.

1075
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:27,469
Speaker 4: What about this one, Petrarca? 1.2 to 1.3. Fair. That

1076
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:29,070
Speaker 4: comes out in 2029.

1077
00:42:29,070 --> 00:42:30,270
Speaker 2: That's absolutely fair.

1078
00:42:30,350 --> 00:42:30,430
Speaker 7: Fair.

1079
00:42:30,610 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 2: And especially he's got to buy a new spleen.

1080
00:42:33,140 --> 00:42:33,580
Speaker 1: That's right.

1081
00:42:33,820 --> 00:42:35,180
Speaker 2: So that's very expensive.

1082
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: You can get them off the dark web.

1083
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:37,460
Speaker 4: The black market.

1084
00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:38,850
Speaker 1: You can. You can get a good one.

1085
00:42:38,980 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 4: Organs farming. Do you reckon those stories are true, that

1086
00:42:42,739 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: actually you can wake up in a hotel room in

1087
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 4: a bath?

1088
00:42:45,460 --> 00:42:46,140
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1089
00:42:46,180 --> 00:42:46,820
Speaker 1: Absolutely, brother.

1090
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,730
Speaker 4: With no kidneys? Yes, absolutely. Isn't that true?

1091
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:49,330
Speaker 2: Yep, definitely.

1092
00:42:49,390 --> 00:42:50,609
Speaker 8: Not so much in Melbourne.

1093
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:53,509
Speaker 4: I'm always worried about that when you're going on a

1094
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:58,950
Speaker 4: footy trip. Anyway, number five, Shea Bolton, 1-1.1. Now, he'll

1095
00:42:58,989 --> 00:43:00,710
Speaker 4: probably be tried to Fremantle or Brown Dog.

1096
00:43:00,770 --> 00:43:01,009
Speaker 6: Eagles.

1097
00:43:01,210 --> 00:43:03,950
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, yeah, he shouldn't be in the

1098
00:43:03,989 --> 00:43:05,940
Speaker 2: top five, the highest paid players in the comp.

1099
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,940
Speaker 4: Clayton Oliver in his first year of a seven-year deal. Now,

1100
00:43:09,980 --> 00:43:14,390
Speaker 4: let's remember his off-season escapades. One to 1.1 million.

1101
00:43:14,530 --> 00:43:17,029
Speaker 2: I don't think they would have been overly wrapped with

1102
00:43:17,070 --> 00:43:19,270
Speaker 2: his output this year for that sort of money. So

1103
00:43:19,310 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: that's a cross for me.

1104
00:43:21,380 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 4: One to 1.1. He's at number seven.

1105
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,140
Speaker 2: That should be on more.

1106
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 4: Brodie Grundy. Now this, Collingwood supporters, close your ears. Brodie Grundy,

1107
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 4: 1 to 1.1. Some of that still being paid by

1108
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,939
Speaker 4: the Collingwood Football Club.

1109
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,620
Speaker 2: If he can lead the Sydney Swans to a premiership,

1110
00:43:41,219 --> 00:43:44,330
Speaker 2: then he'll be worth every cent, especially if Collingwood are paying.

1111
00:43:44,070 --> 00:43:46,410
Speaker 4: Some of it. Is that akin to, I'm not sure,

1112
00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 4: being married and then you split up and your partner

1113
00:43:52,620 --> 00:43:55,620
Speaker 4: is then living with someone else under your roof.

1114
00:43:55,660 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: It's the exact same.

1115
00:43:56,380 --> 00:43:58,299
Speaker 4: Maybe the house you purchased. Yeah.

1116
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: Which happens regularly.

1117
00:44:00,570 --> 00:44:03,290
Speaker 4: Yeah. And you're living in a two-bedroom flat in Glen Waverley.

1118
00:44:03,310 --> 00:44:05,690
Speaker 1: Glen Waverley with a busted air conditioner unit.

1119
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:11,010
Speaker 2: Shub Dove's life just isn't fair. That's right.

1120
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:13,470
Speaker 4: Number nine, Tim Kelly for the West Coast Eagles, 1-1.1.

1121
00:44:13,590 --> 00:44:17,450
Speaker 4: He's a good player, but no, that's too much for me.

1122
00:44:17,530 --> 00:44:20,469
Speaker 4: Best and fairest last year. Paddy Cripps, number 10, 1-1.1.

1123
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

1124
00:44:22,780 --> 00:44:25,299
Speaker 4: Unders, unders. Okay, I'm going to toss up the bad

1125
00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:29,220
Speaker 4: ones for you. Jack Lacoste, West Coast, sorry, Gold Coast,

1126
00:44:29,219 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 4: $ 900 to $ 1 million.

1127
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,420
Speaker 2: And finished the year in the NEFL, or the VFL, sorry.

1128
00:44:33,820 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: Yes, Nick Haynes, $ 9 to $ 1 million.

1129
00:44:36,219 --> 00:44:37,989
Speaker 2: Not getting a game. Not even getting a game.

1130
00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:38,989
Speaker 8: That's yuck. That hurts.

1131
00:44:39,250 --> 00:44:43,030
Speaker 4: Jacob Hopper, $ 800 to $ 900 grand for Richmond. That ends

1132
00:44:43,210 --> 00:44:45,129
Speaker 4: in $ 29, 000, that deal, and he's got a dodgy knee.

1133
00:44:45,210 --> 00:44:45,670
Speaker 1: Hopped on.

1134
00:44:46,170 --> 00:44:48,450
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Richmond will wish they had their time again.

1135
00:44:48,650 --> 00:44:52,500
Speaker 4: Shit happens. And the pick of them. Number 96, can

1136
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:57,500
Speaker 4: you believe this? Patrick Dangerfield, $ 600, 000 to $ 700, 000. Wow.

1137
00:44:58,340 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: He's still ripping finals apart.

1138
00:44:59,580 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: He's still ripping finals apart. That's a pretty good deal.

1139
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,340
Speaker 4: I tell you what, Geelong do well with their salaries,

1140
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 4: don't they?

1141
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,219
Speaker 1: That's why they played nine goddamn prelims. Time four. What

1142
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:09,660
Speaker 1: a world.

1143
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,390
Speaker 2: Now, my what a world is, did you know we're

1144
00:45:12,410 --> 00:45:14,050
Speaker 2: talking about tips? I've just Googled tips.

1145
00:45:14,610 --> 00:45:14,910
Speaker 1: Tips.

1146
00:45:15,150 --> 00:45:15,630
Speaker 2: Yeah, tips.

1147
00:45:16,410 --> 00:45:17,430
Speaker 1: What do you mean tips?

1148
00:45:17,450 --> 00:45:21,230
Speaker 2: Do you know that here in Victoria, the great state,

1149
00:45:21,690 --> 00:45:24,149
Speaker 2: we've got to pay to go to the tip to

1150
00:45:24,210 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: get rid of our.

1151
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: This predated Dan Andrews before you tee off.

1152
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but it's just... We're talking tips.

1153
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,259
Speaker 2: JB said you can just go to the tip and

1154
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,420
Speaker 2: drop anything off and it's free in Queensland.

1155
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,020
Speaker 8: Should be able to.

1156
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 4: Yes, free.

1157
00:45:38,780 --> 00:45:41,350
Speaker 2: Nothing's free down here. Even when you die, there's a

1158
00:45:41,370 --> 00:45:43,330
Speaker 2: deceased estate, you get taxed on inheritance.

1159
00:45:43,350 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: We've upset him.

1160
00:45:44,770 --> 00:45:46,830
Speaker 4: You don't get that yet. It's a great point. I'm

1161
00:45:46,850 --> 00:45:49,150
Speaker 4: glad you brought it up. The fact that I go

1162
00:45:49,450 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 4: to take my mulch in Victoria, take my– well, no, sorry.

1163
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 4: I'll take my grass, my greens to the tip, and

1164
00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 4: they'll charge you $ 100 a trailer, and then they're going

1165
00:45:57,940 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 4: to mulch that up and sell it.

1166
00:45:59,739 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah.

1167
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,770
Speaker 4: So that just doesn't make sense to me.

1168
00:46:02,780 --> 00:46:04,339
Speaker 1: Perth, Perth, you have to pay for your tips.

1169
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 4: Highway robbery.

1170
00:46:05,340 --> 00:46:06,110
Speaker 1: It's not just Melbourne.

1171
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:06,690
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1172
00:46:06,810 --> 00:46:09,569
Speaker 1: Perth, Adelaide, what about Adelaide tips? Port fan, do you

1173
00:46:09,590 --> 00:46:10,489
Speaker 1: know about the tips, man?

1174
00:46:10,510 --> 00:46:11,730
Speaker 8: No, you just dump it in the street. You just

1175
00:46:11,770 --> 00:46:13,150
Speaker 8: dump it wherever you want. You don't even have to

1176
00:46:13,170 --> 00:46:13,770
Speaker 8: go to the tip.

1177
00:46:13,890 --> 00:46:15,109
Speaker 1: It does seem like bullshit.

1178
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:17,780
Speaker 4: When I first moved up here, we didn't realise, because

1179
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,219
Speaker 4: you've got to live in the local area and you've

1180
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 4: got to show where you live. And my father-in-law came

1181
00:46:23,540 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 4: home from the tip. We just were moving out, so

1182
00:46:26,460 --> 00:46:28,950
Speaker 4: moving box and all that. And Billy Boy said, he

1183
00:46:28,989 --> 00:46:30,910
Speaker 4: came back, he goes, oh, that bloke at the tip's

1184
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:33,890
Speaker 4: an absolute prick. You won't get along with him, trust me.

1185
00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:36,290
Speaker 4: I said, oh, no worries. So I went down there

1186
00:46:36,310 --> 00:46:39,770
Speaker 4: the next day, turned up, and I went in the window,

1187
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 4: and this bloke comes over, he goes, hey, John O'Brien,

1188
00:46:43,420 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 4: how are you, son? And I said, good, mate. He goes,

1189
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: I love the way you play footy, son. Love the

1190
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,140
Speaker 4: way you play footy. I said, oh. I've heard it's

1191
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,290
Speaker 4: a bit of a problem dropping stuff in at this tip.

1192
00:46:52,310 --> 00:46:54,130
Speaker 4: He goes, not for you, son. You can bring a

1193
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:57,310
Speaker 4: dead body and it'll be free. In you go.

1194
00:46:57,489 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: We might have to take him up on that offer.

1195
00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: Jonathan, before we go, just please repeat your advice to

1196
00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 3: Carlton fans.

1197
00:47:05,180 --> 00:47:06,410
Speaker 4: At least you got Paddy Cribs.