1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Good, our gang. I hope you're bloody terrific. So this 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: is this is something that I talk about a lot, 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: and I've spoken about a lot over the years, is 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: the fact that you and I can be in the 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: same conversation but not having the same experience. We can 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: be looking at exactly the same thing and we both 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: see something different. We hear a word, it means something 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: to me, it means something different to you. And that's 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: because there are things that happened to us around us, 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: because of us, in spite of us, events, situation, circumstances 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: that happen in our external, physical, three dimensional world. And 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: then you and me we see that, we experience that, 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: we hear it, we feel it, we touch it, we whatever, 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: and then we give it meaning. And we give it 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: meaning based on what we think or what we believe, 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: or what we know or more accurately, what we think 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: we know, our feelings, our opinions, our biases, our previous experiences, 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: our history, our education, our inclination, the stuff that we're 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: scared of, the stuff we're inspired by. All of these 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: things are variables, cognitive and emotional and experiential variables which 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: influence the way that you and I see stuff, and 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: the way that you and I see stuff or interpret 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: stuff is a subjective thing, which is why something happens 24 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: in front of you and me and you have a 25 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: different story about the thing because you're not me. Your 26 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: mind is not my mind. Your brain works differently to mine. 27 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: You've been programmed and educated and influenced and poked and 28 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: products cognitively and emotionally and sociologically over the course of 29 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: your life in one way. I've been influenced in another way, 30 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: And so we're looking at the same thing, but we're 31 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: not seeing the same thing because Craig's version of the 32 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: world is subjective. So in a way, I coexist in 33 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: the world and Craig's world my version of the world, 34 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: and I think problems happen when we mistake our version 35 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: of the world for the world. We mistake our subjective 36 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: interpretation for a global, objective truth, and then we get 37 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: very defiant about that. So what I'm talking about today is, 38 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not an expert in this, but I 39 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: think I have a pretty good grasp of it. So 40 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: if you can bear with me, this is not scripted clearly, 41 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: and there's only me and I'm sitting by myself thinking 42 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: out loud, and so trying to explore this idea of 43 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: the impossibility of objectivity, or that our capacity we have 44 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: to be somewhere in the ballpark of objective. I'm kind 45 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: of thinking out loud as I go, so in advance. 46 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: I apologize for my clumsiness and perhaps for the lack 47 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: of inspiration or flow, but I just think this is 48 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: a I genuinely think this is a really fucking important 49 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: concept for people to grasp because I think so many 50 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: people spend their life looking at things through a certain 51 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: lens without realizing they even have a fucking lens. They 52 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: just think that what they think is what is You know, 53 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: so that ain't true. That ain't true, And sometimes your 54 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: version of events will align with actual events, or sometimes 55 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: the way that you see something is consensual amongst among 56 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: a group, right, so you might be somewhere close to 57 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: being accurate in the way that it's seen more globally. 58 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: And there'll be times where you're completely inaccurate, wildly off track, 59 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: as am I. We all will be. But so let's 60 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: start with identifying or explaining what objectivity is. So objectivity 61 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: is it is the ability to observe, assess, or respond 62 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: to something without being influenced by your personal feelings, your opinions, 63 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: your background, your bias is, your wants, likes, needs, experiences, 64 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: and even your genetics. It's about seeing things as they 65 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: are versus how you want them to be or fear 66 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: them to be, or how you have can conditioned being 67 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: conditioned to believe they are. And this is the same 68 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: for me. This is you, this is me, this is everyone. 69 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: And so in Layman's terms, we might say that objectivity 70 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: is that mythical unicorn where you kind of magically separate 71 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: yourself from your ego, your beliefs, your baggage, culture, hormones, genetics, 72 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: your morning mood and just see something as it is. Well, 73 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: good luck with that. Because I don't know that any 74 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: of us do that. I will say I think there 75 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: are things that, of course, we can be more objective 76 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: about than others because we perhaps don't have any pre 77 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: existing thoughts, ideas, beliefs, or understanding of a certain thing. 78 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: So when someone says to me, for example, hey Craig, 79 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: I want to teach you the best way to build 80 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: a tree house for your nephew that I don't have, 81 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: I want to teach you. I want to so I 82 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: don't have any I don't have an idea of how 83 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: to do that, Like I don't have a pre existing concept. 84 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: I have no fucking idea, no theories, I have no understanding. 85 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: That's never been of interest to me. So when old 86 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: mate says to me, let me tell you how to 87 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: build a tree house, this is the best way to 88 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: do it, I'm probably going to be way more open minded, neutral, 89 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: objective than if they say to me, Hey, Craig, I 90 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about how to get in shape. 91 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: I want to tell you about the best way to train, 92 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: the best way to work out, the best things to 93 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: do in a gym. Well, good luck with that, because 94 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: I got all my own fucking thoughts, I got all 95 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: my own baggage, I've got all my own experiences, I've 96 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: got all my pre existing stuff, And good luck trying 97 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: to teach me, because I fucking know everything. Wink wink 98 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: with me. So I think that depending on the conversation, 99 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: depending on the topic or the issue, I think we 100 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: can be more or less objective. But also keeping in 101 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: mind that even when old mate is teaching me about 102 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: how to build a tree house, it's still me. It's 103 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: still it's still me looking through the Craig lens. The 104 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: fact that I've never thought about building a treehouse, or 105 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: I've never built one, doesn't mean that my emotional stuff 106 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: or psychological stuff, or my hesitation to do anything that 107 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: resembles handyman work, or my underlying belief that I'm fucking 108 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: useless with tools, or all of those things, they're going 109 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: to influence that. Even though I've never thought about building 110 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: a treehouse, there's going to be stuff there which will 111 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: make me more or less objective and open minded. Right, 112 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: And we love to see ourselves as being open minded. 113 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: We like it because it's like it's culturally and socially 114 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: seen as a noble trait or characteristic. It's like it's 115 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: a desirable thing. He's so she's so open minded, so objective, 116 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: so easy going, you know, like not prejudiced, not biased, 117 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. And it's it's a good feeling, 118 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: because who the fuck wants to be seen as being 119 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: closed minded? Who doesn't want to be objective? Who wants 120 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: to be shut down emotionally and mentally, and who wants 121 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: to be locked into a certain way of thinking and being? Well, 122 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: we say we don't. We say we don't want that, 123 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: but fucking he fuck Batman. Have a look around how 124 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: many people, including me and you. At times, I'm sure 125 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: that's what we are. I think we're way more closed 126 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: minded about many things than we are open minded or objective. 127 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: We are very very very much intertwined, intertwined with our 128 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: subjective story that we created because we are identified with 129 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: that story. That story makes me feel like I know, 130 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: and I like knowing. I don't like not knowing. Also 131 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: that subjective story that I have about that objective thing 132 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: that gives me a level of comfort and familiarity and certainty. 133 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: And I like all of those things. And what I 134 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: don't like is one I don't like someone knowing when 135 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, and then they challenge my thoughts. Right, 136 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: So I'm not going to fuck and listen to them. 137 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to stay in the echo chamber. I'm gonna 138 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to get trapped in this thing called confirmation bias, 139 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: where I only listen to people who agree with me, 140 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: or think like me, or are in my thought cult 141 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: because that's where I feel safe. That's where I'm around 142 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: people and ideas that are familiar to me, and I love, familiarity, right, 143 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: and this is this is a very very very common thing. 144 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: Like we we tend not to realize in the moment 145 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: that we what we call our truth our knowledge is 146 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: really just or what we call I should say truth 147 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: or knowledge is really just our our truth and knowledge. 148 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: And sometimes you know, maybe we're right, maybe we're right 149 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: a lot, maybe you're right a lot. I don't know. 150 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: But also, guess what you're not right? Sometimes guess what 151 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: you're wrong. Guess what not because you're bad or weird 152 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: or flawed or evil. But you've been wrong about a 153 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: lot of things. And the reason I know this is 154 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: because you're a human. I've been wrong about probably as 155 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: many things as I've been right. And the older that 156 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: I get, the less certain I get, and the more 157 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: open I am to acknowledging that I'm getting things wrong. 158 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: Every day, I'm trying, I'm learning, I'm doing what I can, 159 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,479 Speaker 1: but I have to acknowledge my flaws and my humanity, 160 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: and I have to realize that no, this is not 161 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: this is not a universal truth. This is my version, 162 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: This is my understanding, This is my story, This is 163 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: my interpretation of something that is much bigger than me, 164 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: and even when we even when we try to be neutral, Like, 165 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: the thing is that you wherever you are, there are 166 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: your beliefs. Wherever you are, there are your biases. That's 167 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: wherever you are, there's your upbringing, your family, the echoes 168 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: of decades of conversations, the imprint, the psychological, emotional, sociological 169 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: imprint of your dad's thinking and your mum's thinking, and 170 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: the trauma and the joy and the hopes and the 171 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: culture and the education and the religion, all of that 172 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: shit that's just been programmed into you. You can't leave 173 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: that behind like you take it everywhere with you. And again, 174 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: this is not good or bad. This is something to 175 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: be aware of. This is something to be cognizant of, 176 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: which is why I'm really comfortable to say to people, Look, 177 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: this is what I think about. You know. In fact, 178 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: I had a meeting. This not a meeting. I had 179 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: a coffee this morning. I'm recording this on a Saturday 180 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: with Tommy, and Tommy and I were talking about God, 181 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: as we did briefly the other day Tommy Jacket, and 182 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: not for a long time, but just for a moment, 183 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, basically, we got to the 184 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: point where we're talking about what we believe. And I said, well, 185 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: this is what I believe. But also I believe that 186 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: because in part that's familiar to me, in part I'm 187 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: comfortable with that, in part I was programmed this way. 188 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: There are some things that I don't align with or 189 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: don't think anymore, but there's a lot that I do. Now. 190 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: If I am being somewhere in the ballpark of objective, 191 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: I need to say, this is just Craig's version, This 192 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: is my story, this is my understanding. This is my 193 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: subjective interpretation of something way fucking bigger than me that 194 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: I'll probably never understand. And if I'm being a little 195 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: bit humble and aware and real and raw, I have 196 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: to say I could be wrong. I could be wrong 197 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: about some of it, a bit of it, a lot 198 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: of it, or none of it. But I'm definitely not 199 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: wrong about none of it. There's definitely a shit that 200 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: I'm getting wrong on a daily basis, and that's okay. 201 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: And I think the moment that we recognize that we 202 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: don't see things as they are, see things as we are, 203 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: Thanks and as Nint who said, we don't see things 204 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: as they are, we see things as we are, the 205 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: moment that we realize that the moment that we go ah, 206 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: this is just me looking at the world through the 207 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: Craig window. This is me looking through this lens. This 208 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: is me looking at this through my understanding on my vocabulary, 209 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: or the lens of my education, or the lens of 210 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: my self limiting beliefs, or whatever the fucking lens is. 211 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: This is just me seeing that thing. Whatever, that stimulus 212 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: over there, that event, that circumstance, that's human, those words, 213 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: whatever it is. That's just my interpretation of a thing. 214 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: And the moment that we realize this is not the thing, 215 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: this is my version of the thing, then I believe 216 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: we actually move closer towards a level of or a 217 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: greater degree perhaps of openness, objectivity, and perhaps neutrality where 218 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: we're not pulled one way or the other so much 219 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: by our bias, you know, like confirmation bias is our 220 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: brain's favorite shortcut. Like we unconsciously and all humans do this. 221 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: We unconsciously seek out the stuff that confirms what we believe, 222 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: what we think, our values, our ideas, and without really 223 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: thinking about it, we discard or discredit anything that contradicts 224 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: us or what we believe because that other opinion or 225 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: that other version of truth or that other version of 226 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: what is feels threatening when it challenges our self story 227 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: or our worldview, and we don't like being threatened. In fact, 228 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: our brain one of the things that our brain is 229 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: really hardwired for is confirmation and familiarity and comfort. So 230 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: it's not really we're not really looking for objectivity. We 231 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: like the idea of it, but when the boots are 232 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: on the ground in the middle of it, it's really 233 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: just mental self soothing, where where we're finding something that's comfortable. 234 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: And you know this is I mean, let me zoom 235 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: back a little bit. You know, we think about like 236 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: in personal development and self help and you know, human behavior, whatever, 237 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: whatever big banner we want to put over the top 238 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: of all of the stuff that I do with you 239 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: and share with you. Like we you know, we love 240 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: the idea of being a better person. We love that. 241 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: We love the idea of eating a great diet. We 242 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: love the idea of living our life which is aligned 243 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 1: with our values. We love the idea of being a 244 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: better communicator and a better parent. We love the idea 245 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: of knowing more and doing better. We love the idea 246 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: of improving performance and outcomes and having a spiritual life 247 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: and being having greater connection with others. And we love 248 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: all of these things that are constant conversations on this show. 249 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: But as I've said many times, away from the idea, 250 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: away from the thing that we like, away from the 251 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: intention or the desire, it ain't fucking easy. Like the 252 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: idea of open mindedness or objectivity, let's call it that. 253 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: That's the title, the idea of objectivity. It's really nice. 254 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: I want to be. Yeah, Craig, Craig's really objective, like 255 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: he really you know, minimum bias, really open minded, really neutral, 256 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: talk to him about anything. Yeah, no, that's not you can. 257 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: And I'm definitely better than some, but not all. And 258 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: some days you'll find me depending on where where I 259 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: am at, because I'm a human, i might be having 260 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: a shit day. I'm going to be absolute crap. I'm 261 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: going to be defensive. I'm going to find the story 262 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: that suits me. I'm going to be completely subjectively wrapped 263 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: in my own idea because in that moment, it fucking 264 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: suits me. And this is the disparity, This is the space, 265 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: This is the divergence between self help theory and life. Life. 266 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: Life is where we change. Life is where in the 267 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: middle of the shit and in the middle of the discomfort, 268 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of the unfamiliarity, in the middle of 269 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: that interaction with that person where you want to be 270 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: defensive because they might be telling you something that does 271 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: an align with your something, and you fucking love your something. 272 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: You want to defend your something. Your something's the right something. 273 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: Fuck they're something right. Well, this moment that I'm describing 274 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: that is the moment where you and me need to 275 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: go hang on, is there something in there? Something? Is 276 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: there something in there something? Is there any chance that 277 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: my thought, idea, in my something, my belief, my standard, 278 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: my story, Is there any chance that it's a bit wrong, 279 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: quite a bit wrong, or completely fucking wrong. And it's 280 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: not so much about truth or facts or information as 281 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: it is about me protecting something that I want to protect. 282 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: And fuck you because I've thought this for a long time. 283 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: See here's the thing, right, Being really open minded an 284 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: objective requires great strength, great strength, great humility, great awareness, 285 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: great resilience. Like this is really fucking hard. The idea 286 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: of it requires no effort me talking about it, just 287 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: talking doing it. And this is true for all things 288 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: in the human experience. When we're trying to grow, learn, evolve, adapt, 289 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: become better. Like you and I are all programmed, even 290 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: if we don't realize it. An objectivity or a level 291 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: of objectivity requires us to step outside of our or 292 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: at the very least be aware of our programming and 293 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: aware of the things that perhaps stand between us and 294 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: the what is, the what isness of reality beyond our reality, 295 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: the what isness that lives beyond our window or our 296 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: curtain or our bias. Most of us live in echo chambers, 297 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, pay attention to the same things, the same 298 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: news sources, the same people, the same algorithms, the same shows, 299 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: the same the same everything. And it's not objectivity. That 300 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: ain't objectivity, it's just groupthink. This is me just living 301 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: in a cult of thought. This is me, This is 302 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: me finding something that makes me feel better about what 303 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: I already believe. You know so much of my journey, 304 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, with my PhD and with all the other 305 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: things that I'm sorry to bore you with all my shit. 306 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: By the way, it must be fucking mindlessly boring to 307 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: keep hearing me bang on about stuff. But my life 308 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: is my life, isn't it. Uh? But you know, there 309 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: are so many things I've had to unlearn. There are 310 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: so many things that I've needed to admit that I 311 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: didn't know, or I needed to admit that something that 312 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: I thought was wrong. And we don't want to I'm 313 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: globalizing here. You might not be like this, and if 314 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: you're not fucking gou but we don't like to be 315 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: wrong publicly. We don't even want to be wrong in 316 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: front of one person, let alone fucking publicly. Like I 317 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: look back at the stuff that I've done on this show, 318 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: and some of it's really good. I think some of 319 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: it's in the ballpark of good to great maybe, and 320 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: then some of its shits, and some of it's in 321 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: the middle. Some conversations I did pretty well, some I 322 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: did pretty bad. Some were are a bit of a 323 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: train wreck, you know. But the truth is just the truth. 324 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: Like me telling myself that all of the work that 325 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: I do is somewhere between good and amazing is me 326 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: being deluded because it's just not true. It's just not true. 327 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: I am not the best, I am not incredible. I 328 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: am not And people go, oh, stop talking yourself down. No, 329 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: this is not talking yourself down. This has been practical 330 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: and real. This is like, you know, there are days 331 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: where I do really good work. There are days where 332 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm a fucking catastrophe and I don't even want to 333 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: be around me, and I am me. But I think 334 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: I think part of the secret is is just doing 335 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: what I'm doing now, which is saying, hey, you know what, 336 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: I don't know of all the stuff there is to know, 337 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: Like I feel like this. I feel like mankind humanity. 338 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: We think of all the things there is to know, 339 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: we know ninety nine percent. You know, let's say of 340 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: everything there is to know, that equals one hundred percent. 341 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: I feel like mankind we currently think that we know 342 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: about now. You know, there's still some stuff to learn, 343 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: but maybe ninety percent, I think, And this is just 344 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: a thought. I can't I can't quote you anything on this. 345 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: I can't even give you a I probably could, but 346 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to. But I don't think we really 347 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: understand or know or comprehend one percent of all there 348 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: is to know for humans. Let's call that one hundred percent. 349 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't think we know one. That's not to say 350 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: I think we're globally ignorant and stupid. I don't think 351 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: that either, But I just think we can't even begin 352 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: to understand what there is beyond the tininess of the 353 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: human mind and the tininess of the human brain. We 354 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: think brains are fucking brilliant. Well they are, but they're limited. 355 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: You know that my thinking is limited, my understanding is limited, 356 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: My cognitive horsepower is limited. And so being able to 357 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: recognize that you know most of what there is to know, 358 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't know and probably never will know. And also 359 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine. Being able to learn things that 360 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: quiet knowledge expose ourselves to new ideas and thoughts and 361 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: information and research is great. But also to be able 362 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: to when the time is right, when the situation calls 363 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: for it, to be able to unlearn things. Because when 364 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: we've learned things that we have intertwined with the way 365 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: that we live and our identity and our sense of 366 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: who we are the self, and those flaw those ideas 367 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: are in some way flawed. Well, that sets us lf 368 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: up for problems. And one of the problems being that 369 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: you know, I've built a way of living and being 370 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: and doing on perhaps an ideology that is that that 371 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: could be I'm not talking about anything in particular, but 372 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: it could be flawed. It could be flawed. Think about this, 373 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: what if you eat a certain mind. I'm not talking 374 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: about any particular model of eating, so don't try and 375 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: assume I'm just talking globally. Let's say, let's say, you know, 376 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: five years ago, you met someone and they said to you, 377 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: they showed you research, they did all this stuff, and 378 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: they went, you know, this is the best way. People 379 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: haven't caught on yet, but this is the single best 380 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: way to human for human beings to eat. And you 381 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: you brought in, You brought in mentally, you brought in emotionally, 382 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: you brought in socially and behaviorally, and this person just 383 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: they convinced the shit out of you, and you went, fuck, 384 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm on board. Now you're five years down the track, 385 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: and this way of eating is unequivocally intertwined with who 386 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: you are, how you live, and people who don't eat 387 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: like you are dumb and uninformed and they're gonna die 388 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: earlier than you, and blah blah blah blah. Now, thing 389 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: like this, this theoretical example I'm giving, Things like this 390 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: exist all the time, with a myriad of different subjects, right, 391 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: and a myriad of different kind of focuses. Only to 392 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: find out after the five years that, oh my god, 393 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: all of this or some of this was based on 394 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: a flawed idea, only to find out that now I'm 395 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: actually sicker than I would have been if I hadn't 396 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: eaten how I was previously eating, or I've now predisposed 397 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: myself to this condition or that condition because I was 398 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 1: following flawed science or a flawed idea or whatever it was. 399 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: And this is the challenge. Is when we are when 400 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: we believe a thing will, we're emotional, We're emotional about it. 401 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: And the moment that I am emotional about something that 402 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: I believe to be right, that I am certain about 403 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: that will, now that fucking wears the objectivity there is none. 404 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: Because I know that I'm right. I am un teachable 405 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: now because I know that I'm right, I know that 406 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: my God is the God, so you can't teach me. 407 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: And everyone who doesn't follow my God, or everyone who 408 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: doesn't have the divine conduit to you know, whoever or 409 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: whatever that I have, well, they're going to Hell or 410 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: they're going wherever, wherever it is. I think they're going 411 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: because I'm right. And everyone who doesn't work out this way, 412 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: everyone who doesn't do this kind of training, this kind 413 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: of functional training with kettlebells and this, and that they're dummies, 414 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: they're trapped in the eighties. They're dumb, they don't know. 415 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: And everyone who doesn't invest their money this way, and 416 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: everyone who doesn't realize that that monogamy is stupid. Polygamy 417 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: is how it should be. And this is whatever the 418 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: fucking belief is. And when when that's you, you're gone. 419 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: You're gone because you have built a psychological and emotional 420 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: prison for yourself because for a range of reasons, you 421 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: can't wink wink, you can't be wrong, because you build 422 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: an operating system based on the things that you know 423 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: you are right about. And your brain doesn't want truth. 424 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: It wants comfort. Your brain wants certainty, your brain wants safety, 425 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: your brain wants consistency. And we do it backwards. We rationalize, 426 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 1: we rationalize backwards. We decide emotionally. We make decisions based 427 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: on fear and anxiety and self preservation, and so we 428 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: make these decisions which are essentially emotionally driven, and then 429 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: we try to justify it with logic and objectivity. Just 430 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: dies in the spin cycle of self justification, like self 431 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: justifification and self rationalization, and it's the opposite of objectivity, 432 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: an open mindedness. All right, so what do we do? 433 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: So you and I are never going to be completely objective. 434 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: And that's because if you or I have any pre 435 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: existing anything, ideas, thoughts, believes, values, experience is conditioning, programming. 436 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: Of course, that's going to influence us. And that's okay. 437 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: That is not a bad thing. What is a good 438 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: thing is to be aware of that. A bad thing 439 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: is to pretend that none of us or none of 440 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: that affects the way that we make a decision. Yep, No, 441 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm totally objective. This does not affect my thinking, This 442 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: does not affect my decision making. It will not affect 443 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: how I treat you or talk to you. It will not. 444 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: That's bullshit, and we all need to know and say 445 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: and admit that that's bullshit. But what I will try 446 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: to do is I will try to be aware of 447 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: my bullshit so that I can You know, this is 448 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: an amazing exercise in self awareness, right, Self awareness and 449 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: self regulation is in the moment. I have to do 450 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: this all the time. There are so many times when 451 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: I want to talk to somebody about let's say, health 452 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: and fitness and wellness and nutrition and training is a 453 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: very specific example for me, but you might imagine right now, 454 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: I want to talk to them in a way or 455 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm compelled to just fucking cut to the chase, right 456 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: because I know how to fix this again, wink wink, 457 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: I know how to fix it. And I know you know. 458 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: This is a psychological problem with a physiological outcome, and 459 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: your food's is not the problem, and your your training 460 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: is not the problem, and resources are not the problem. 461 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: It's not a time management issue. It's a psychological issue 462 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: that's creating all of these bad choices and behaviors and 463 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: actions and lifestyle and that outcomes. And I know because 464 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm crak up, I've done this fucking a million times. 465 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: Well guess what, I don't know. I don't know. I 466 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: know a fair bit, but I get shit wrong even 467 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: with this all of the time. I might come in 468 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: with the best intentions to chat to Diane about her health, wellness, fitness, 469 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: energy and so on, and I go, listen, I've got Diana, 470 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm sixty one, I've been doing this fade years. I've 471 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: got forty three years of experience. Bat down the hatchet, 472 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: to sit the fuck down and pay attention, because I'm 473 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: going to fucking blow your head off and change your 474 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: life right. Fourteen minutes later, she walks out because I'm 475 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: a dickhead and I'm not relating and I'm I'm just 476 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: looking at it through the craigfilter. I have no idea, 477 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: no understanding, no objectivity, no awareness of what this is 478 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: for her, because I'm not understanding the objective reality of 479 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: what I'm in the middle of. I'm in the Craig reality. 480 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm all about the subjective truth of what I know 481 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: versus what Diane doesn't know. And you're here because I'm 482 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: the expert. So pay attention. You're welcome, you with me, 483 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: and this is you and me all the time. And 484 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: this is something that we need to be well, we 485 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: don't need to, but I would suggest we need to 486 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: be mindful of something that we lean into get curious about. 487 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: So we're less we're less inclined to want to be right, 488 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: and we're more inclined to want to be curious and 489 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: to understand and to build connection and rapport with people. 490 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: Because that old chestnut we're looking through their window, you know, 491 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: that old chestnut of that I drag out too many 492 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: times of theory of mind is trying to understand their 493 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: version of what is. And if you can understand your 494 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: version of what is and their version of what is, 495 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: and you can understand a perspective or have insight into 496 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: a perspective or a reality or a version of right 497 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: now that isn't yours, then you're opening the objectivity door 498 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: just a little bit wider