1 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to three sixty Rugby League from every angle, joining 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: me the great Good and tell Us Spring, the Generator, 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: Australian Poor Crawley and Andrew Webster. 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: Rugby League just continues to deliver. 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: There is never a dull moment. We've got a huge 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: shot on tonight, Gordy. 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: That will start with this. 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: Jerome Lewy firing shots on social media after Lachlan Galvin 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: has been dropped Fortish week's game. 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: What do we make it for Gordy? 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 4: I like it, you know. I think that if I 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 4: was playing with the guy, and I did. I played 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 4: with Justin Hodges when he signed with the Risses. I 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 4: remember the one that probably cut me the deepest was 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 4: when Wendell left us after promising that he was going 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 4: to stay in two thousand and went to rugby union. 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: There's no doubt that you get gutted. You get this team, 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 4: you get this brotherhood in a side. And I think 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 4: where the Tigers are and they're building, and Jerome Lewi 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 4: left a very successful club to come and hop out 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 4: one of them, I'd feel I'd probably feel the same 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: as him. 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: What did you think of this Instagram post from Jerome 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: Lewi Do you think it's good leadership. 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: Do you like it? 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 5: It shows how disappointed he is, doesn't it. It shows how 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 5: obviously disappointed the team is because you know, they beat 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 5: the Knights on the weekend, the Tigers who have had 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 5: so much bad luck in recent years, and you know, 30 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 5: three wooden spoons in a row, they're finally back in 31 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 5: the top eight. 32 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 6: And then this explodes. 33 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: I love Jerome in a game where so many players 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: are too scared to be themselves, he's undershamably himself. He 35 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: was one of the members of the leadership group that 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: went to Benji Marshall this morning and said we don't 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: want Lochland Galvin in this team. And Jerome's you know, 38 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: he's done it before he's done After origins, he says 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: what he thinks on social media and that's just another 40 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: way of him saying that we're not going to put 41 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: up with Lachland Galvin deciding not to play well. 42 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: He knows what wins, right, coming from a very successful 43 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: organization in Penrith, he knows everybody's got to buy in. 44 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: And right has he four premierships in a row comes 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: to the club, shows great leadership, has made an immediate 46 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: impact and He's just pretty much said, if you don't 47 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: want to be a part of this team, see you later, 48 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: work work your way back in. Do we all agree 49 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: with Jerome NOI, then we're all happy. 50 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: With with. 51 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 3: Gordy. Would you have ever put a Kendrick Lamarth song 52 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: on your Insta store? 53 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 4: It wasn't around maybe eminem and my come don't kill 54 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 4: my ch don't kill my Instagram. 55 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 2: Every week. 56 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 7: This is a new way that they communicate with each other. 57 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: So, you know, back in the day it was us, 58 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 4: it was face to face, it was you know, having 59 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 4: a run in at a bar having a beer and 60 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: there was alcohol involved or whatever. So this is now 61 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 4: he's sitting at home and this is the way that 62 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: they communicate. 63 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 5: It highlights the furnace that Lachlan Galvin now sits in though, 64 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 5: doesn't it because, as you said, when you had teammates 65 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 5: that made a decision to leave the club, you burnt 66 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 5: for the whole season. Yeah, And this is the situation 67 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 5: that a nine year old kid has now walked into. 68 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: We're going to dive a lot deeper into this situation 69 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: very soon, and we've got Stephen Crichton coming up very 70 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: soon as good mates with Jerome wife, So we might 71 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: ask him about that a little later. 72 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: But Lockie Galvin has released a statement. Let's have a 73 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 2: look at it. Bear with me, this goes for a while. 74 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: It was quite a lengthy statement from him and his 75 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: father as well. I totally understand my decision will frustrate 76 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: many West Tigers fans, but please know that it wasn't 77 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: an easy call to make. It's a decision that I 78 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: have discussed that length with my parents' closest friends and family. 79 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: The biggest reason why I made this call now is 80 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: so that the West Tigers have enough time to plan 81 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: their roster without me in the future. That's the absolute 82 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: truth of it. Any suggestion that I already have a 83 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: deal done at another club for twenty twenty seven is 84 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: simply not true. 85 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: And then he goes on to say, I just feel that. 86 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: As I'm move into an important period of my development 87 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: as a half, that I continue to build my game 88 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: at a different club. 89 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: Again. 90 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: I know this might be hard for some people to understand, 91 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: but I make this decision in the best interests of 92 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: my career. Benji has made a call today to leave 93 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: me out of the NFL squad, and of course I'd 94 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: love to be out there with the boys, but that's 95 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: his decision as the head coach, which I have to accept. 96 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: Benji said, I was playing in New South Wales Cup 97 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: this weekend. I said that whatever you think is best 98 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: for the team, I'm okay with very interesting guys. This 99 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: statement from Lockey Galvin a turn of events over the 100 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: past twenty four to forty eight hours. Sorry, I don't 101 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: think anyone saw this coming right now, and it has 102 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: set the rugby league world a light. 103 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: Blae the West Tigers. I don't think it is. I 104 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: think it's actually if I'm a West Tigers fan, I'd 105 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 3: see the silver lining in it, and it said my 106 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: club is strong than it's ever been and we're not 107 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: going to be told what to do or dictated to 108 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: by the biggest player agent in the game. That's exactly 109 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: what it is. Because Isaac Moses does this a clubs 110 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: and look, I'm not gonna I should make it very 111 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 3: clear because everyone thinks that, you know, journos are aligned 112 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: to certain player managers. I'm aligned to none. I dare 113 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: say you're the same. Crawls. I haven't spoken Isaac Moses 114 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: in five years, so nothing I say tonight is going 115 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 3: to be parroting what he's had to say. But Isaac 116 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: Moses is a very controlling manager who gets his claws 117 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: in the clubs. He's got them various ones already, mainly 118 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: being one and West Tigers just said we're not going 119 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 3: to be dictated to So Shane Richardson was always going 120 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: to have an offer on the table of around. The 121 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: deal was about six million dollars as we have we've 122 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: read in the last couple of days. But Shane Richardson 123 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: knew if he was prepared to go to November one 124 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: to test the market, that he was not going to 125 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 3: be at the West Tigers. So instead of you know, 126 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: stuffing around and going on all year about whether he 127 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 3: was going to be here or not and then missing 128 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: out on the market, because that's why the market is now, 129 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: you've got to work a year and a half to two, 130 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: he's in advance. The West Tigers have shown strength that 131 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: they haven't had for a very long time. 132 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 6: I agree. 133 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: I think it's standing strong and I think it's a 134 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: real shifting moment for the West Tigers. 135 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 7: This regardless leadership. 136 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: And look at the response to the players. So they 137 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: were going to pick him as of last night. Shane 138 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: Richardson and Benji Marshall were of the opinion that they 139 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: were going to pick him, and it was the senior 140 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: players that fronted Benji this morning and said we're not 141 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: going to We're not going to let him, we don't 142 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: want to play with him. And then and then, and then, 143 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: and then Benji Marshall told Lachlan Galvin to address the 144 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 3: playing group. He did, and apparently they had to call 145 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 3: an end to it because they weren't copping what was 146 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 3: coming out of his mouth. Probably they're not going to 147 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 3: cop that statement. 148 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: Wow, is that how it went down? 149 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: One hundred? 150 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 7: That statement looks like it would be my homework these days. 151 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 7: Just still lay on. 152 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 5: Oh I am it's hard to comprehend how a nine 153 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 5: a year old rights that. But you speak about the 154 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 5: leadership of the West Tigers, no question in the world. 155 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: What they've done so far has been strong. I want 156 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 5: to see it continue. I really hope Richo stands on 157 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 5: his digs here and he makes a decision to keep 158 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 5: Lochlan Galvin at that club until the end of his contract. 159 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: What is he on? 160 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 6: Three fifty three fifty? 161 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 5: Make him play out, make him play out the next 162 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 5: two years don't. Don't give another club a leg up, 163 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 5: make him play out, and you know what, you don't. 164 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 5: You don't have to You don't have to push him 165 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 5: into him to second grade for the whole time. 166 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 6: But when he gets to the. 167 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 5: Point where the leadership group in that team start to 168 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 5: trust him again, then you do what's best for the club. Cordy, 169 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 5: I'll give you an example. You spoke about Wayne with 170 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 5: Justin Hodges many years ago. I'll give you another example. 171 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 5: When Anthony Milford wanted to go to the Broncos and 172 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 5: he wanted out immediately. The Raiders refuse to let him go, right, 173 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 5: They refuse to let him go, and they said, you're 174 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 5: going to stay here. Under no circumstances are you leaving 175 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 5: the club? Milford went back. 176 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: You know what he did. 177 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 5: He won the player of the year that year, twenty fourteen, 178 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 5: he won the Raiders Player of the Year. Galvin has 179 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 5: an opportunity to come back from this and do what's right. 180 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: Hey, listen, and then all of us are behind the 181 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 4: Tigers on this decision. But the game, and when I 182 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: mean the game, I mean all the other clubs, because 183 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: it's going to happen to you at some stage and 184 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: I think the NRL Peter Velandis and Andrew Abdot like 185 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 4: they've got to stand behind them. 186 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: So he's already been deregistered. 187 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 7: Though this agentister. 188 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 4: Got a million dollar player, right, it's three fifty time, 189 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: So go start to go fund me because I'd happy 190 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: to be put in and say just no, no, seriously. 191 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 7: So the kids need to learn a listen. 192 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 4: We don't like, we can't just keep on having this 193 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 4: happened to the Week of Clubs has happened. 194 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 5: There isn't There is an overwhelming feeling out there amongst 195 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 5: other clubs that they hope the Tigers do this right now. 196 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 6: And you know what, they would chip in so you 197 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 6: release it. 198 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: I wouldn't release it, not unless they can leverage it 199 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: for something better. But I don't know how that's that's 200 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: really going to work. 201 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how that's going to It's not like 202 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying, ready was one of them? 203 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: Let him go? You know? 204 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: But but this reeks reeks of deliberate disruption. So this 205 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: is a plan, right, if you read between the lines, 206 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: it's a plan from the camp to disrupt, and that's 207 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: what they've got. 208 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: And now they get released early. 209 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: They give big money at a premier club next year 210 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: and so on and so on. Ready said he won't 211 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: get more money. He will get more money. 212 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: This is about money. 213 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: Did you Ready say last night he wouldn't get more 214 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: than three hundred No? 215 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, I think. 216 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: Upgrade. 217 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and plus he said the decision wasn't about money, 218 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 4: it's about development. 219 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: But development. Let's talk about development development. 220 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: I think, how is he not going to develop under 221 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: Benji Marshall West Tigers? 222 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: Great? Right, that's one. 223 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: They put Jerome Lew next to him, who's just won 224 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: four premierships, next to Nathan Cleary. 225 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: Right. 226 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: Two, you've got happy chorus out at nine who's won 227 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: a premier ship one of the premier lines in the competition. 228 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 4: To silver, who's number nine that he played all of 229 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 4: his red football with. 230 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: Tell me how he's not going to develop in those 231 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: with those people around him? Now the reports Galvin had 232 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: a list of grievance, grievance and sorry around the club 233 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: and Benji and he went to Shane Ridges and I 234 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: believe with Mos did not knock Galvin. 235 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: So he went he went to him when he had 236 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: a list, I think with seven points and the way 237 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: it's been explained to me. Isaac got through a couple 238 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 3: about Benji and Rich. I said, I don't want to 239 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: hear it. Mate, that's enough. 240 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: Was it the manager or was it gal This. 241 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: Is the thing. So when when when I want to 242 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: wait to hear when Lachlan Galvin does his you know, 243 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: lightweight interview with some journo who's close to Isaac Moses, 244 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: and when he sits there on to explain, explain exactly, 245 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: explain exactly what your grievance is with with with Benji Marshall, 246 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: and then and then ask if it's real, and then 247 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 3: maybe ask the question is it got anything to do 248 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: with the fact that your player manager, Isaac Moses doesn't 249 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: like Benji Marshall. Is that might be getting a little 250 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: bit Lockie Gavin is going. 251 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: To be seek with this, right because a lot of 252 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: people out there wouldn't know this, right, So apparently Moses 253 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: and Benjie don't get along. 254 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: Is that true? 255 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: Or that's that's what you hear? 256 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: Okay? 257 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 7: And when did that start? 258 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: That also depends on who you talk to. But I 259 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: don't think the way that Klemmor and Bateman left the club. 260 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: Please the Moses can this. But I don't want to 261 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: be like, I want to say this about Isaac, right, Isaac. 262 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: You know, Isaac is renowned as the biggest manager in 263 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: the in the in the game. He's also was renowned 264 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: as one of the most difficult to deal with. There's 265 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: been plenty in terms of numbers or in terms of 266 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: the players or whatever, but Isaac, in many ways it's 267 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 3: just is just working within the rules. This is how 268 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: the system is. 269 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: You know. 270 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: The system is set up that you have to work 271 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: so far in advance in terms of your roster, and 272 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: it puts all the power into the hands of the 273 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: player managers and the NRL and the RLP. I been 274 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: talking about fixing this and getting rid of that power 275 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: balance for years, for years. 276 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 7: Stink. 277 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 5: Where it really stinks is Lachland Galvin is entitled to 278 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 5: think another club may give him a better shot at 279 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 5: making the most of his career. But where it stinks 280 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 5: is that all the major news outlets at the moment 281 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 5: are reporting the same angle of the story that Benji 282 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 5: Marshall is the problem. Benji Marshall is not the coach. 283 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 5: It is so unfair because it's not just a stain 284 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 5: on Benji. It's a stain on the Tigers. It's a 285 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 5: stain on the club that has brought this fellow through. 286 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 5: When Paramatta didn't see a future in Lachland Galvin, the 287 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 5: West Tigers did and they've spent years getting him to 288 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 5: this stage. They gave him an opportunity to come and 289 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 5: play first grade last year. 290 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 6: He really has stood up. 291 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 5: He's an obvious talent, but it's just it's not fair 292 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 5: and in years to come he'll regret what he's done. 293 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 6: Me this. 294 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: How does a nine year old kid who has just 295 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: come into first grade and has only had the one 296 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: coach in Benji Marshall, and has given him this opportunity, 297 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: How does who does he compare Benji Marshall to who 298 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: is he played underneath and has coached him to tell 299 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: him that he's not developing or there's a better coach out. 300 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure I've seen him do an interview. 301 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 7: He goes. 302 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: Benji jumps in the drills and he kills it like 303 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 4: he's better than us. He throws cut out bulls, he 304 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 4: sets up more. 305 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 5: Tri old in the world, starts compiling a dossier against 306 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 5: your coach. 307 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 7: Come up with that. 308 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: It's only it's only he's only been his coach for 309 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: a year and you know, and at that time that's right, 310 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: that's right. And I just find it so weird at 311 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: the time when the club's on this sort of trajectory 312 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 3: like why now, why have you. 313 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 7: Decided we hang and lockie out when we shouldn't be 314 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 7: hanging Lucky. 315 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 3: That's the thing that's. 316 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: DC got hung out, the dry Luke Brooks, the poor 317 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: bugger right, And to me this smells a bit like 318 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: Luke Brooks. Don't know where Lucky Galvin's gonna go. He's 319 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 4: going to have this Luke Brooks where he's just going. 320 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 6: To get judged. 321 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 5: There's a part of me, Gordon that feels really sorry 322 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 5: for this fellow because he's nineteen and he's paying good money. 323 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 5: But what I consider bad advice. 324 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 4: I said, but he's got his father and the father 325 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 4: and some love should be a stronger bond than anything, 326 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 4: and his father's in honest, he. 327 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 5: Does know what his father's background is. You don't know 328 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 5: how much experience he's had dealing with this. Again, you 329 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: go back to the fact you employ a manager to 330 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 5: do the right thing by you. 331 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 7: You must you. 332 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 4: Must know how ben Hunt got affected by the money take. 333 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: You must know how Ash Taylor, a young kid got 334 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: affected by the money. Take you look at DCE right 335 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: now at thirty seven, how it's affected him. 336 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: You must look at all those situations. DC was affected 337 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: by the lack of I think urgency to sign him 338 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: and put a deal in front of him. It wasn't 339 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: so much the money. But then it's a medium noise. 340 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 5: Now this goes beyond money, because even the Tigers were 341 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 5: willing to give him a million dollars a year. 342 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 6: You know, money's not the issue here. It goes beyond 343 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 6: the money. 344 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: The issue I've got it goes to bad I said 345 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: it last night. If i'm his agent, right, I'm saying 346 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: that's an amazing offer, thank you for the offer. But 347 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: the mindset of my player right now is focused on 348 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: this week's next week and the week after this game 349 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: and trying to get us to the Semis and win 350 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: a competition or get close to whatever. 351 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: Do our best. 352 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: At the end of the year, will reassess and reevaluate 353 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: it and we'll talk to you then. 354 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: That would have been my response. 355 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: Are you leaving six million on the table unless you've 356 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: got a pretty strong idea of where you're going to 357 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: go next? 358 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: You said it not me. 359 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: Well I'm saying a baby. 360 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well there it is. 361 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: Let's be honest, play off me for the rest of 362 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: the show. Bra I've said I. 363 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: Love having you and you're in a movie. Do you 364 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: like this? Okay, let's get back on track. Okay, whether 365 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: it's true or not. 366 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: With this impact not only the Tigers, but Benji Marshall, 367 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: he's coaching, he's a. 368 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: Bit need to get players to the club. 369 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I think the way they've fallen behind him, 370 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: it's been it's a as I said, in a terrible situation. 371 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,119 Speaker 3: That's the silver lining for the Tiger. 372 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 5: You know, though, Webby, the one thing that could derail 373 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 5: the Tigers is the fact that Lachlan Galvin has been 374 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 5: playing very good football. Yes, and if it gets to 375 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 5: the stage where they don't pick him from here on 376 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 5: in and the Tigers season goes from being seventh on 377 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 5: the table to falling out of playoff contention, that does 378 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 5: affect Benji. 379 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 7: Build a bit more than that. 380 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 4: I reckon with Lil Happy and the guys around, they've 381 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: got a couple of young halfs. 382 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 6: I think we all agree. 383 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: Though. 384 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 5: At the end of last year, after what happened, the 385 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 5: Tigers picked up their third wooden spurn. 386 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 6: They needed a better season. Benji needed a better season. 387 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 5: It certainly started that way, and it's just a shame 388 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 5: this is now to Rabic it has look, I hope 389 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 5: it doesn't. And I think they've got enough resources there 390 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 5: with other players like Dewey and young Latufeinhu down. 391 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 6: The track to pull themselves out of this. 392 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 5: But look, there's no question in the world Benji's in 393 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 5: a worse position right now than he was last week. 394 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 3: Someone will come on the like, let me ask you, guys, 395 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 3: is he worth that money? 396 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 7: Like? 397 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: I see a great player, but I don't. I don't 398 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 3: know if is that at a nineteen like I don't 399 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 3: see him as an. 400 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 5: Okay, the market says he is Webby. 401 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. 402 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 5: Jolen Brown just signed a contract at one point three 403 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 5: million dollars. 404 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 7: Season, but he's no. 405 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: No, it's not whether Look, the players can get what 406 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 4: they want, is he worth it? 407 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 2: We'll get there a bit further on the track. Let's 408 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: let's just focus more zero in on this. The West Tigers. 409 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: Will they dig their heels in here? And if they do, 410 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: will it cost them a chance of making the finals? 411 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 6: I think they have to dig their heels in here. 412 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 5: I think I think long term, what you can't do, 413 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 5: and we've seen this previously. You can't come out and 414 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 5: say we're going to banish him to reserve grade for 415 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 5: the rest of this year and next year because what 416 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 5: will happen. No, you can't go it because the Players 417 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 5: Union will get their backs up and they'll say that 418 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 5: you can't do that to someone's career. 419 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 7: But you can. 420 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 6: You can certainly put him back there subject shoe? Can 421 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 6: we So every play that doesn't get picked. 422 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 4: For trust, if you don't get picked for Australia Queens, 423 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 4: then happened. 424 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 7: But I've played good, I've got six men of the matches. 425 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 7: I should be in that team. 426 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 5: No, I still think subject the Tigers would do the 427 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 5: right thing by themselves if they kept locking in their system, 428 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 5: and who knows where it may lead. If he stays 429 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 5: in reserve grade for the next year and a half, 430 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 5: so be it. But you've still got that option there 431 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 5: to bring him up. 432 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 7: And was the best player on the field in the 433 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 7: Grand Final? Did he win the Clive Churchill? There you go? 434 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: No, I you know what I reckon certain a subjective. 435 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 3: So I've killed brains since I can't remember you know 436 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: what I reckon that I just wanted. I reckon they'll 437 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: make a statement with by by dropping him too to 438 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 3: reserve grade and that in time, whether I don't think 439 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: it will be in the next couple of weeks, but 440 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: I think it'll be maybe in the next month or so. 441 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 3: In time he will come back into the team. 442 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: I think you talk about Isaac Moses and does your 443 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: risk putting another club offside? And has his reputation or 444 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: will it take be hit here? Reputation I mean, does 445 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: he have one? 446 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 3: But like this to me, Lachlan Galvin's reputation. 447 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: The manager because you said it earlier, I'm coming back 448 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: to you because reputations that run with it. 449 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Baby, you said exactly, he said run with you said 450 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: he's had trouble dealing with doesn't talk. 451 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: Gus didn't talk to him. But we'll get to that later. 452 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: Because this is the thing, though, Brave, at the end 453 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: of the day, all these they have to deal they 454 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: have to deal with each other, but the players hold 455 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: the player, managers hold the whip hand. 456 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 6: They really deal with them until they have to do it, 457 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 6: until they have to. 458 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: They all bag each other behind each other's backs, but 459 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: they all have to do business with each other. That's 460 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 3: because it's like and in some ways this is the 461 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: beauty of the game, because this is like so ruthless. 462 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: Everyone nice each other in the back, but they all 463 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: get onto with each other because they have. 464 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: Your fans on the side of you and buss both 465 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: of you. Is that Nick or Isaac or someone all? 466 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 7: Right? 467 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: Now, Gas School? 468 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: This is I found this very interesting, the Gas School 469 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: situation at the moment. 470 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 2: And I want to take a look at a few 471 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: of his comments that. 472 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: He's made of late about Lachlan Galvin, and I'll explain 473 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: why I think he's the best teenage footballer I've ever seen. 474 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: I think what he's doing is absolutely extraordinary. Lochlan Galvin 475 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: will earn more money out of rugby League than any 476 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: other player in the history. In the future, whoever has 477 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: Lochlan Galvin in their side will. 478 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 2: Be winning premierships. Now why I find this so. 479 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: Interesting, I reckon Gus believes all of. 480 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: That is the middle one where he's we'll get to it. 481 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: We get to it where he says, I think that 482 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: he's the best teenage footballer I've ever seen. 483 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: Now, Gus Schould, I say on this show so many times. 484 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: If he's not the brightest mind in our than who 485 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: is he's in the top two or three. I think 486 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: he's doing an incredible job at the Bulldogs, and he 487 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: did at Penrith, and I respect him as much as 488 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: anyone in our game and his opinion, but this one 489 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: I just can't align with that he's the best teenager 490 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: that he's ever seen. Now, when I think of teenagers 491 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: in our game, you think of Brad Clyde, Lourie Day, Sonny, 492 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: Bill Williams, J T, Jared Haynes, Calem Bonger, Brad Fittler, 493 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: Nathan Clear Like I could go, I could probably name 494 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: I could name thirty or forty who I've got ahead 495 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: of where I see Lochlan Galvin right now. So I 496 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: find it intriguing that this praise from Gas I find 497 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: it out the top. 498 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: What do you both seeking? Am I ever reading? 499 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 7: This? 500 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 5: Must be faired income Here he's making a pitch. He's 501 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 5: making a pitch for a player. You're not allowed to 502 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 5: You're not allowed to privately go and court a player, 503 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 5: but obviously publicly you can because break you make complete sense. 504 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 5: Brad Clyde was winning competitions when he was eighteen playing 505 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 5: for his coming Laurie Daly, also Brad Fitler. These sort 506 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 5: of guys that Gusk goes back to the eighties when 507 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 5: players like Brett Kenny and Peter Sterling were making, you know, 508 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 5: winning comps at twenty one years of age. We've had 509 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 5: so many footballer's it's extreme praise's. There's no doubt in 510 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 5: the world. 511 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: He of the Dogs, Well, he's going to make a 512 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 4: message anyone will see Eachannel nine last night. 513 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: Gus was the cat. Gus was the cat that got 514 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 3: the crime, and the cream is Lachlan Galvin. He just 515 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 3: looked like he looked like he looked like he was 516 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: so comfortable about where Canterbury will be when the time 517 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 3: comes when. 518 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 4: But then he did say, didn't he say that he's 519 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 4: back in his development and the youth programs that they 520 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 4: got in place at the Dogs. 521 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: He said, if I was him, I'd be looking for 522 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,239 Speaker 1: a club of development. He also said, if I was him, 523 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be signing a five year deal. 524 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: He said that last week. 525 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 3: I believe a couple of weeks this is the stuff 526 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: that drives the other clubs insane because he's clearly pitching 527 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: up for him and using that platform to these blokes 528 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: who have got television programs with conflicts of interest in 529 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: to disgrace. 530 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 5: No rules, there's no rules that says he can't do that, 531 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? And in that respect it's 532 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 5: smart administration because if he is trying to make him 533 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 5: play for Lachland Galvin and he ultimately ends up getting him, 534 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 5: that's a good thing for the Bulldogs. 535 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: It is. 536 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 7: But also you wouldn't live on television, would you. Gus 537 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 7: is smarter than that. Wouldn't it be just a phone call? 538 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: Do you think that's exactly how he's not allowed to 539 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: But that's yes, he is. 540 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 3: He just can't make it off. They just can't make 541 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 3: an offer. That's one that is. They can't. But that's 542 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 3: when it comes as smart. That's where I got smart, because 543 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 3: he gets the ball rolling at a narrative start, and 544 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: he plants the seed in Lachland Galvin's parents heads and 545 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: in the kids heads, and he's you know that he's 546 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 3: keen on him. It's like it's it's unless you're aware 547 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: of it, then you don't know what's happening. 548 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: What was also in interesting, and I was made aware 549 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: of it, was that Denny boy says Toby Sexton is 550 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: on the outer and this was only on Sunday. Here 551 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: is Sext and stays focused. Sex is showing a strong 552 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: level of professionals as talk about his future, bubbles and 553 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: the background. The Dogs have not open talks with Sexton 554 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: and his management and he has been offered to Canberra Cowboys, 555 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: Manly and so on. Right, So what do we make 556 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: of this? Because we all know the relationship with Denny 557 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: has with Gus. Now this is only on the weekend. 558 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to. 559 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: Put these pieces of the puzzle together, you know the self. 560 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Gus said he's obsessed with Galvin openly on 561 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: the podcast that he does. Now we've got Denny, who 562 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: is very close with Gus, saying that they're not negotiating 563 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 1: with Sexton, when only a few weeks ago they were 564 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: going to resign Sexton but that's stalled. And now we've 565 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: got all this drama with Galvin. 566 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: What do we make of it? 567 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 3: Is the puzzle coming together? 568 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 5: What's intrigued is how it would all fit break the 569 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 5: machinations of the team going forward if Galvin was to 570 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 5: go to the Bulldogs. Okay, so the parts in the 571 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 5: puzzle You've got Sexton who's a seven. You've got Matt Burton, 572 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 5: who's proven in the past. He's probably not a seven, 573 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 5: he's a six or he's a center. But you've already 574 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 5: got Crichton and Cherry who are outstanding, and you've got 575 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 5: Conna Tracy at the back. So where does Galvin come 576 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 5: and fit into this pubble? You tell me, is here Severn? 577 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 5: Or is he a six? 578 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 6: And they've got young Gowards in the back. 579 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: Of Galvin's a six, yes, and Burton's a six at best, 580 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: not a seven. Could not possibly play seven. He's a six. 581 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: He's a runner and he wants someone inside of him 582 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: who can control the footy team. So you'd have to 583 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: leave Sexton there, you could, I don't think you could 584 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: put Galvin and Burton in the in the hearts and all. 585 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 6: They've got young Woods coming through a year down. 586 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: The TI is probably a year or two away. 587 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: But what I find interesting about this is when they 588 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: knocked back Dce, they were strong and why they not 589 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: him back. They didn't want to unsettle the group of 590 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: the Bulldogs. They're flying at the moment. They will be 591 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: on loyalty, they'll be on standards and they decided to 592 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: make that call. Now you've got a kid who's going 593 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: to walk out on his club and you're going to 594 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: bring him and he's bagged his coach on the way 595 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: out kind of thing, right, You're going to bring him 596 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: into a club that are flying at the moment and 597 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: that don't really need him. In my opinion, I'm not 598 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: I no stage here have said that he's going to 599 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: the Bulldogs, mind you, but it's just I'm just trying 600 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: to put the pieces of the puzzle together. 601 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: I know Gus is a big fan. 602 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't as a Bulldogs fan, I wouldn't be going 603 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: after him. I don't know where he fits into that 604 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: team because what you'd have to do is sacrifice someone 605 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: else in there. You don't want to move Crichton and Sherry. 606 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: They're going great kind of trace. He's killing it at 607 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: the back. Burton's at five eight Sex is doing a 608 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: magnificent job and he's not a seven. 609 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: So where does he actually fit in? 610 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. 611 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 5: That's the piece of the puzzle that I don't really get. 612 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 5: And also what it does if Burton was to have 613 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 5: to move positions and then someone else has to move. 614 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: Like it can upset the apple cut. 615 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 5: And you've also seen Jerome Lewis stance today and we 616 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 5: all know Crichton is one of his great mates. So 617 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 5: how does that come if he goes from there to there? 618 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 8: You know, like this, I don't know the other options 619 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 8: Rugby power matter and manly like if he's going to 620 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 8: make the most out of his career, are they the 621 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 8: two clubs you would know at the home Para matter. 622 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: I could see him combining of Moses magnificently. I actually 623 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: see that combination great. It's just you know, development where 624 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: they're at at the moment. If he leaves early, would 625 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: he go there next year? Would it make a significant difference? 626 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: But I could see that combination working mainly with Brooks 627 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: not so much. What about this is just coming in now. 628 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: What about Penrith playing next to Cleary? That is that 629 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: an option for sure? 630 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 2: Can you imagine Clary playing with him when have the cap? 631 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking. Blaze to Lung for six 632 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 4: million for five years. That means that Nathan and Cleary 633 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 4: will be on three and. 634 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: They need to prioritize forwards through there. I reckon with 635 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: Fisher Harris not there at the moment, maybe more so 636 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: than a six. 637 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 5: But I don't know what the NRL's rules are with 638 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 5: this too. But it's an important part of the puzzle too, 639 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 5: is that the Tigers have They didn't get a chance 640 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 5: to table that offer. But the offer was there for 641 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 5: a millionaire season. So what what can another club who 642 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 5: does sign him down the track registering four? What's what 643 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 5: is a fair figure? Anything under a million dollars on 644 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 5: the cap? 645 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 6: I don't think it is. 646 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: I think the Tigers offered him Stefano the farm alum 647 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 4: for less. 648 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: What it's crazy. 649 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: You take a look, you're a to take a little 650 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: bit for less. You've just got to be market value. 651 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 6: But what is market value? 652 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 7: I don't know. 653 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: I reckon he's an eight hundred thousand, six hundred because 654 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: because it's because it's a harves market. At the moment, 655 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: you can get you know, you can get one, you 656 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: get one point to one point five. 657 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 7: You know. 658 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: It's a crazy situation. 659 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: And Buzz has got the calculator out and Galvin has 660 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: five hundred and ninety days go in Tigers town. 661 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: Where does he send? 662 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: Oh god, I think he'll come back. I think he'll 663 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: be back in first grade. But as I said, I 664 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: don't think. I don't think there will be unless they 665 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: can get something for him. There's no way that they're 666 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: going to release him. And there's no way because that's 667 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: what Isaac Maas's player is to get in. 668 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 5: But the Tits though, is also that they've got that 669 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 5: hot young player Latu Feinhu, who is committed to the 670 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 5: club to the end of twenty seven. I think, and 671 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 5: if he is going to be the future of the club, 672 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 5: do you when he does return from injury, do you 673 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 5: play him there and let him be? 674 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 7: You see, he's. 675 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: A bit of a watch. The Tigers make a play 676 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: for Adam Reynolds. Reckon just as a little bit of 677 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: a like a little bit like DC in the last 678 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 3: couple of years of his career. 679 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 7: It's a branch. 680 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 3: I reckon, they will okay there it is because I 681 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: reckon that's what they need. They need an experience half 682 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 3: like that, you know, just until a lat who comes 683 00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 3: through