1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: This is a really interesting one reality television. We need 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: to talk about this, mate, because floodgoats are right, Well, 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: this is the thing now House Rules Now, I just 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: quickly want to bring up because Joanna Griggs has left 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: the show because she was pretty upset with the way 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: things were going on that show. Yeah yeah, and the 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: roads that it was going down. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: Is that why she left? 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: That confirmed? I don't know, it's not confirmed. It was 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: an article written saying that might be one of the reasons. 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: But I mean, Griggsy's done everything for Channel seven over 12 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: the years. 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: It's been amazing. 14 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: She wouldn't walk away from I suppose she is doing 15 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: quite a bit. That could be the reason why she does. 16 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Better homes and gardens. 17 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So this is to do with House Rules 18 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 3: and a former contestant who was portrayed as a villain. 19 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: So House Rules has won a worker's compensation case against 20 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 3: Channel seven for the psychological injury that this woman has sustained. 21 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: Nicole Prince was her name. They haven't declared how much 22 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: money was given to her, but I'll tell you what. 23 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: It just opens the floodgats. You see what these reality 24 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: shows are and you think, I wonder how that person's 25 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: being treated behind the scenes because they are often employed 26 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: by the network or the production company all that time 27 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 3: on the show. 28 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: If you've been in reality TV contestant on a show before, 29 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: and you're listening to us right now thirteen twenty fourteen, 30 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: give us a call. I mean everyone, here's them complaining 31 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: when they get off a show the way that it's 32 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: been edited. Of course, you know, and the argument always 33 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: will you still said that? But see reading this story 34 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: on Nicole Prince. She basically said Sarah that every time 35 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: that she would go in and they would look at 36 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: another contestants room, they only showed the negative comments that 37 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: her and her partner said on the show. Can she 38 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: proves that long? 39 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: She said? 40 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: Where do you get the vision? 41 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: She said, as soon as and I enter the studio, 42 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: this was the team the scoring weeks, we could see 43 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: and feel the hatred from the other team, she said. 44 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: We did not understand where all of this was coming from. 45 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: We discovered months later that the revealed footage that were 46 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: shown to the other teams only contained our negative comments 47 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: about their innovation work and none of the positive things 48 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: we had said during every camera interview. Both myself and 49 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: Fiona complained on film that we were being subjected to isolation, 50 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: bullying and harassment by the other teams. She said. On 51 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 3: one occasion, I witnessed Fiona being physically assaulted. Channel seven 52 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: portrayed Fiona as bullies in the episode featuring our team. 53 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 3: She said after the episode was aired, I was subject 54 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: to online abuse on the Channel seven Facebook page, including 55 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: receiving threats of serious physical assault. I have been fearing 56 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: for my safety ever since. I'm no longer off at 57 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: interviews for jobs because of how I was portrayed. Oh, 58 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: not that many people. 59 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: Do you feel like that though, fits, I mean, you're 60 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: the one in the room that's done reality TV. 61 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: Well, this is the look I can I can understand 62 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: the argument of what you say on television you can't 63 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: go back on. I mean, they've got that, that vision 64 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: is there. The way that they put it into a 65 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: story can make you look in a negative light. That's 66 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: the only thing that you worry about. But I feel 67 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: like when I did it over fifteen years ago, back 68 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: in two thousand and four, it's nowhere near as bad 69 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: as it is now because you look at married at 70 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: first sight. Now you've got a mate that's going on 71 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: married at first site at the moment, are you worried 72 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: about how he's going to be portrayed. 73 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: The difference between say Big Brother and reality shows outside 74 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: of it is you didn't have producers in your ear. Yes, 75 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: And with all these shows, there are always producers trying 76 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: to get you down a road, or to say a thing, 77 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: or to make you worry about something that may or 78 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: may not be real, so you react to it. But 79 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: the one thing that they consistently say, and anyone that's 80 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: been on shows Mattie Jail talk about it with the 81 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: Bachelor or whatever, is they can only lead you to water. 82 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: They can't make you do it. And so if you 83 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: don't want to say the thing or engage in the 84 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: interaction that they're trying to get you to do, you 85 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: just don't have to. But you do it. 86 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: If I'm on a show like this right on Channel seven, 87 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: and I walk into a room and I say, you know, 88 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: I'm looking at all the other contestants bedrooms and I go, oh, 89 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: beautiful BedHead. I'm not sure about that. In the bathroom 90 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: next him, I walk into. I love what they're done 91 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: with the lighting. That's not the color scheme I like. 92 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: And then you cut out all the positive comments. You 93 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: haven't portrayed a realistic view of what I've done. The 94 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: problem with this is that with the success of this case, 95 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: if you would if the law was to change and 96 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: the director and the producers in the edit suite had 97 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 3: to had to portray and even balance view for the 98 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: person said reality TV. So the other thing is the theme. 99 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: The other thing is, well, we've worked in the industry 100 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: for a long time, so we understand that. But these 101 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: people have never been to a studio in their lives 102 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: before or been behind a camera before. 103 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 4: Now. 104 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: You know, let's say on a Saturday night, you get 105 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: a few friends around in the backyard and you have 106 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: a few drinks. Sometimes the conversation can get a bit dark, 107 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, the humor can get a bit dark. You 108 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: just forget sometimes that these people and when alcohol is involved, 109 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: you start, you know, you start cracking jokes that might 110 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: be a bit rude, incorrect. You don't even know about it. 111 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: You go to bid that night, you wake up the 112 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: next day and you don't know that there's a storm 113 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: going on outside. 114 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: And people go into this always thinking they're going to 115 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: be smarter than the show, but you don't realize they 116 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: want you to be your tevied end always. So whereas 117 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: you go on my best day, I'm going to be 118 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: friendly and polite and patient. But if you have been 119 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: sitting outside in the cold for four hours, you're hungry, 120 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: you haven't been able to go to the bathroom, and 121 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: then you get put a camera in front of you, 122 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: you're going to be more testy, more angry, more aggressive, 123 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: less patient. And that's when you say the things that 124 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: they'll portray you saying. And you might go, that's not 125 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: what I mean. But you said it legal. 126 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: Cases to come, Blake Garvey, I would have thought, he says, 127 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: I mean the producer. I'll tell you what, when Blake 128 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: Garvey decided that he wanted to switch things at the 129 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: last minute, the producers, we have got a home run here. 130 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: All right, we go, We got we got Deane on 131 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: from Married at first sighting? You there, buddy, mate, Okay, 132 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: So this this couple, they've won a bit of a 133 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: case against Channel seven and house rules with the way 134 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: that they've been portrayed. Do you reckon this could open 135 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: the floodgates for other reality contestants, team. 136 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 4: Mate, it totally could. I know it happens a lot, 137 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 4: and I know you know, people get edited and portrayed 138 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 4: in different ways, and yeah, I could see a lot 139 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 4: of people. I've spoken to a lot of people that 140 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: have had this happened to them. I kind of spoke 141 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 4: out about it. I have like five or six different 142 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: reality TV people reach out to me and say, yeah, 143 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: the same thing happened to me. So it could open 144 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 4: the floodgates for sure. 145 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: I think the big. 146 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: One that we need to ask Deean is that you 147 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: went on that show to find love, right, but then 148 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: there was another storyline that happened with you and Divina. 149 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: I think the question that needs to be asked was 150 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: were you pushed into And I mean people will stay 151 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: you can't be pushed. If you don't want to do that, 152 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: you don't have to do that. But was that sis 153 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: to you to go down that road? 154 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 4: No, that's not what I'm talking about. That was my suggestion. 155 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: If anything okay, well you've just done. You're going to 156 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: get a good pay out there. I take more responsibility for. 157 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 4: What I don't take responsibility for is all the other 158 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: stuff where they send that I want a woman to 159 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: obey me and things like that when you work like 160 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: that never came out of my mouth. I never said 161 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 4: anything like that. They died all that together and made 162 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: me look like this guy that wanted a woman to 163 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: obey him. 164 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: But you would see very early on I reckon if 165 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: you if you were clued in and knowing you're going 166 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: on a show like this, you know that very quickly 167 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: the producers are going to try and choose some storylines. 168 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: So they're going to be asking questions that encourage you 169 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: to say, did you have that feel about working with 170 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: the producers. 171 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 4: Inside as much like to the extent that that would 172 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 4: happen I had, I had my eatlings, But you know 173 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: I also said so many like positive and nice, friendly, 174 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: happy tears, yeah, and they just never use any of that. 175 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: So in your head, you're painting a picture, a positive 176 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 4: picture of how you're going to be portrayed, like yeah, 177 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 4: I'm a normal, regular, reasonable person, and then when you 178 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: get to edit, it's like, no, that's here and this 179 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: works from there, and didn't show your lips moving in 180 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 4: sync with that stuff, And they made a whole different 181 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: picture of what happened that night. Yeah, there's that day 182 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: at that dinner party. 183 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: You know, well, see this is the thing now, when 184 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: something like this happens in this case, she wins this case. 185 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this opens up now you might have a 186 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: case yourself, don't. 187 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I don't think personally I'll be taking any 188 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 4: further action. I do take responsibility for what I said 189 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 4: and did. And you know, I know Channel nine has 190 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 4: got to make a show or whoever they're making a 191 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 4: show of it, So I kind of you know, as 192 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 4: much as I might have got upset a little bit 193 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: here and there, these days, I'm fine with it. But 194 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 4: you know, some people have versus teams in the mass 195 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: and the lasts in the Mass. I noticed some people 196 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 4: are really struggling, so there might be some US is there. 197 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate your time. Thanks for the col Big 198 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: Fellow Worries. 199 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: Thanks