WEBVTT - Sharri | 21 January

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<v Speaker 1>Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Andrew's sending love to you and your family. Very

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<v Speaker 2>sad day, Well, good evening everyone. At Massive Show tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton and Chris Minns speak directly to you about

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<v Speaker 2>the wave of domestic terrorism rocking our streets. The shocking

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<v Speaker 2>firebombing of a childcare center has today terrified Australian parents.

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<v Speaker 2>New South Wales Premier Chris Mins on My Show Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>announces tough new laws. He says these attacks begin with

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<v Speaker 2>words and the hate preachers and the pro Palestinian activists

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<v Speaker 2>won't be able to get away with hate speech against

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<v Speaker 2>Jews any longer. Mins expresses regret that he didn't take

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<v Speaker 2>this action, he didn't introduce these laws sooner.

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<v Speaker 1>That's coming up in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Also tonight, on the show, I speak exclusively with well

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps Australia's next Prime Minister, Peter Dutton. He talks about

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's anti woke agenda and says that if he

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<v Speaker 2>were Prime Minister, he'd have a better relationship with the

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<v Speaker 2>President than Albanezi. He also slams the Prime Minister for

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<v Speaker 2>the escalating anti Semitic attacks our country is experiencing. Peter

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<v Speaker 2>Dutton's explosive interview coming up. But now let's start by

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Donald Trump's big moves on his first day

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<v Speaker 2>in office, from having only two genders to withdrawing from

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<v Speaker 2>the Paris Climate Accords, Trump gave a powerful, strong, and

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<v Speaker 2>inspirational speech. He told the American people that nothing was impossible.

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<v Speaker 3>Many people thought it was impossible for me to stage

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<v Speaker 3>such a historic political comeback. But as you see today

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<v Speaker 3>here I am the American people have spoken. I stand

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<v Speaker 3>before you now as proof that you should never believe

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<v Speaker 3>that something is impossible to do. In America. The impossible

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<v Speaker 3>is what we do best.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has certainly faced major obstacles to get to this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Multiple civil and criminal cases mounted against him, The media

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<v Speaker 2>and the judicial system came after him with everything they had.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet as he was sworn in as the forty seventh

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<v Speaker 2>president of the United States of America, there was no

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<v Speaker 2>doubting he prevailed over his enemies and critics. In an

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<v Speaker 2>emotional comment, Trump said he believed God had saved his

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<v Speaker 2>life after that near miss assassination attempt just a few.

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<v Speaker 3>Months ago in a beautiful Pennsylvania field and assassin's bullet

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<v Speaker 3>ripped through my ear but I felt then and believe

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<v Speaker 3>even more so now that my life was saved for

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<v Speaker 3>a reason. I was saved God to make America great again.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a day of major policy announcements, a changing

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<v Speaker 2>of the world order in Washington, out with the woke ideology,

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<v Speaker 2>and a new era of common sense with a priority

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<v Speaker 2>on national security.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump said that this election.

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<v Speaker 2>At least he believes, was the most consequential in the

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<v Speaker 2>history of the country now. In a controversial move, Trump

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<v Speaker 2>pardoned nearly all January sixth defendants.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one thy five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>People who stormed the US capital. He will withdraw the

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<v Speaker 2>US from the Paris Climate Accord. He says America will

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<v Speaker 2>take back the Panama Canal. He declared that official policy

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<v Speaker 2>will recognize only two genders, a man and a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>He delayed a.

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<v Speaker 2>Ban for seventy five days on TikTok. He declared a

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<v Speaker 2>legal immigration at the Mexico border a national emergency. He

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<v Speaker 2>designate aided criminal cartels as terrorist organizations. He put a

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<v Speaker 2>freeze on government hiring and ordered all federal workers to

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<v Speaker 2>return to full time work in person. He also signed

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<v Speaker 2>an order banning government censorship.

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<v Speaker 3>After years and years of illegal and unconstitutional federal efforts

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<v Speaker 3>to restrict free expression. I will also sign an executive

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<v Speaker 3>order to immediately stop all government censorship and bring back

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<v Speaker 3>free speech to America. Never again will the immense power

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<v Speaker 3>of the state be weaponized to persecute political opponents. Something

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<v Speaker 3>I know something about not allow that to happen. It

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<v Speaker 3>will not happen again under my leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>The President also pledged to write the injustices relating to

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<v Speaker 2>the COVID pandemic.

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<v Speaker 3>This week. I will reinstate any service members who were

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<v Speaker 3>unjustly expelled from our military for objecting to the COVID

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<v Speaker 3>vaccine mandate with full back pain.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>At one point, Trump stood beside Noah Agamani, who was

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<v Speaker 2>held hostage in Gaza. He also had there with him

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<v Speaker 2>other hostages and family members, and this was a clear

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<v Speaker 2>symbol of Trump's solidarity with Israel. He also said, and

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<v Speaker 2>another topic that traveling to Mars, this is a long

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<v Speaker 2>held goal of Elon Musks, was now back on the

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<v Speaker 2>official agenda, and.

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<v Speaker 3>We will pursue our manifest Destiny into the Stars, launching

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<v Speaker 3>American astronauts to plant the stars and stripes on the

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<v Speaker 3>planet mars Es.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump also revoked nearly eighty orders from the Biden administration

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<v Speaker 2>that he said were radical and destructive, and he said

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<v Speaker 2>America had been in decline from an establishment that extracted

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<v Speaker 2>power and wealth from our citizens, while pillars of society

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<v Speaker 2>lay broken and incomplete disrepair. The new president accused his predecessor,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden, of weakness and treachery, and claimed he prioritized

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<v Speaker 2>the rights of illegal criminal aliens and wasted money defending

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<v Speaker 2>foreign borders instead of America's own.

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<v Speaker 1>And Trump didn't hold back when.

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<v Speaker 2>He spoke about how he thought Biden had missed lad America.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you know that Biden, while I was making my speech,

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<v Speaker 4>pardoned his whole family, the brother.

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<v Speaker 5>The whole deal was bardon.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine that.

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<v Speaker 2>As he just said there in the dying hour of

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<v Speaker 2>his administration, Biden pardoned his own family members for any

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<v Speaker 2>crimes they may have committed since twenty fourteen. He also

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<v Speaker 2>pardoned outrageously Anthony Fauci. I've written and spoken an enormous

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<v Speaker 2>amount about Anthony Fauci's role in the COVID nineteen pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>The crux of the matter is he privately knew American

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<v Speaker 2>funding may have created the coronavirus, finding that happened under

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<v Speaker 2>his watch and in spite of an official ban.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew this right from the start.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the emails, Yet publicly Fauci claimed a laboratory

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<v Speaker 2>leak was a conspiracy theory, and he took every effort

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<v Speaker 2>to silence scientists and journalists and make sure they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>pursue this matter. And now Biden has pardoned him ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of any official invests mistigations that are sure to take

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<v Speaker 2>place during the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>This is corruption, This is disgraceful.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's much to be hopeful about under the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 2>We should see a return to America occupying the role

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<v Speaker 2>of a leader of the free world. It's a space

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<v Speaker 2>that the US has abandoned under Joe Biden. There should

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<v Speaker 2>also be a return to peace through strength.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has a clear eyed.

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<v Speaker 2>View on terrorism, on who the enemies are and who

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<v Speaker 2>is fighting for the right of all of us to

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<v Speaker 2>live in peace, free from violence and intimidation. Trump steps

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<v Speaker 2>into this role when Israel has been single handedly fighting

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<v Speaker 2>terrorism for more than fifteen long months. Benjaminette and Yah,

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<v Speaker 2>who has led this fight, this war with one arm

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<v Speaker 2>tied behind his back as Biden worked against him, depriving

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<v Speaker 2>him of the necessary military support and urging him at

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<v Speaker 2>every step of the way to stop fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>The terrorists have a ceasefire.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't kill in ISRAELA, leave Hesbella alone, Go lightly on Tehran.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't the attitude needed when bloodthirsty terrorists kidnap two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty innocent people, including a baby, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Murder thousands more.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump knows what's right and wrong, and hopefully in time

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<v Speaker 2>he'll take on the ultimate culprit and financial backer of much.

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<v Speaker 1>Of this terror, Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>This global international leadership on this and other areas is

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<v Speaker 2>desperately needed. Anthony Albinizi and Penny Wong. And Pennywong attended

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<v Speaker 2>the inauguration. They don't see eye to eye with Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>The Australian Labor Government's values and policy ideals are fundamentally

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<v Speaker 2>different from that of the Trump administration, not just on Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>but on China, on national security, on climate change, on

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<v Speaker 2>gender and diversity. It seems the age of Woke is

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<v Speaker 2>finally coming to an end and we can only hope

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<v Speaker 2>this movement sweeping the globe would be replicated in Australia too.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're seeing a wave of domestic terrorism unfold in

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<v Speaker 2>Sydney and Melbourne, with synagogues, homes, cars and restaurants vandalized, torched,

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<v Speaker 2>satellite fire bombed and attacked. This took an even more

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous and frightening turn this morning with the overnight firebombing

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<v Speaker 2>of a childcare center in Maroubra in Sydney's East. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me say that again, a childcare center. The daycare center

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<v Speaker 2>was torched just before one am, with vandalism and anti

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<v Speaker 2>Semitic slurs on the building. Now, this is a new

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<v Speaker 2>level of cruelty, targeting a place where children play. It's

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<v Speaker 2>only meters from a synagogue and there was significant damage.

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<v Speaker 2>The attack finally forced the hand of the Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 2>but the antisemitism genie is well and truly out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the bottle now.

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<v Speaker 2>Albanezey said today that he'd hold a national cabinet and

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<v Speaker 2>anti Semitism. He said that kind of in passing this

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<v Speaker 2>morning and then he held it this afternoon. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a knee jerk reaction rather than giving the premiers proper

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<v Speaker 2>time to consider and put forward thoughtful submissions. Unlike Albanezi,

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<v Speaker 2>New South Wales Premier Chris Mins cares deeply about this hatred.

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<v Speaker 2>When I went to see him today, he said he

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<v Speaker 2>felt terrible this was all happening under his watch. The

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<v Speaker 2>personal comment to me, I said to him in the interview,

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<v Speaker 2>what about the hate preachers who are given the green

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<v Speaker 2>light to make derogatory and racist remarks against Australian Jews.

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<v Speaker 2>What about the pro Palestinian activists who get away with

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<v Speaker 2>racist chance calling for not just the death, the massacre

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<v Speaker 2>of Jews in Arabic and in English. Well, Chris Mins,

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<v Speaker 2>he cares, and he is now pledging new laws to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with all of this. He announces them for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time on my show Now have a Look, Premier.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for your time today. I wish

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have to interview you on this topic. What's

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<v Speaker 2>your reaction to this attack on a childcare center overnight?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's good to see you too, Sharry. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 5>it's under these circumstances. I mean, I'm horrified by it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's my worst fears and many people in

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<v Speaker 6>the community's absolute worst fears to see barbaric acts from

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<v Speaker 6>complete animals. I mean, I don't want to put too

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<v Speaker 6>fine a point on it. Complete bastards that would burn

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<v Speaker 6>down on a childcare center because it's linked to the

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<v Speaker 6>back fences linked to a synagogue in Eastern Sydney and Maruba.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm completely horrified by it. I think it's antithetical to

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<v Speaker 6>everything that's been built up in Australia and I can

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<v Speaker 6>completely understand why the Jewish community in New South Wales

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<v Speaker 6>feels under siege. These attacks are are continuing and I'm

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<v Speaker 6>devastated by it.

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<v Speaker 5>But the resilience of both.

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<v Speaker 6>The community and the government is unbowed and we will

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<v Speaker 6>catch the people who are responsible for it.

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<v Speaker 2>The attacks do seem to be escalating twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Same old story.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you wake up every morning like we do and

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<v Speaker 2>you just a horrified to think of what's happened overnight?

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<v Speaker 6>They are escalating and I think it's important I say that.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want anyone to have the impression that we're

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<v Speaker 6>trying to sweep this under the carpet or suggest that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not a major issue.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the central priority of the government at the

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<v Speaker 6>moment and New South Wales Police we are horrified by

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<v Speaker 6>it and the escalating nature of the violence these hate

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<v Speaker 6>crimes could see. I mean, I don't want to speculate

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<v Speaker 6>on a terrible crime, but obviously that's what we're concerned about,

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<v Speaker 6>so I mean, we watch it very closely. My wife

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<v Speaker 6>said to me this morning as I got up for

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<v Speaker 6>work and the reports came through of another fire, that

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<v Speaker 6>it was heartbreaking for the city. We're all devastated by it,

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<v Speaker 6>and I hope that the Jewish community in particular knows

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<v Speaker 6>that the vast majority of people that live in New

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<v Speaker 6>South Wales are with them in solidarity against this horrific crime. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's right. That's the perception I have as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we just both spoke about how they are

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<v Speaker 2>escalating in frequency and severity.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you concerned or do you agree with.

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<v Speaker 2>Figures like Alex Ripchen and also David Ossip who are

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<v Speaker 2>worried that this could lead to a loss of life.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, I am worried about it. I think we should

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<v Speaker 6>should have some candy here. But I do want to

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<v Speaker 6>say that the New South Wales police and the government

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<v Speaker 6>are committed to putting the resources in place to conducting

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<v Speaker 6>a full in investigation and that is yielding results as

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<v Speaker 6>we speak, and I can promise the community in New

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<v Speaker 6>South Wales that this is a major police operation twenty

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<v Speaker 6>detectives are working full time in Stripeforce PERL.

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<v Speaker 5>That will be the auxiliary.

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<v Speaker 6>Will be increased in the coming days, and that Stripeforce

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<v Speaker 6>will be increased. So is that we can have the

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<v Speaker 6>resources in place to fully investigate these crimes. But look,

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<v Speaker 6>I am concerned about it. As I said, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>want to downplay it. This is a major, major issue.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen the Prime Minister finally and relatedly call a

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<v Speaker 2>national Cabinet on anti Semitism. What issues do you think

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<v Speaker 2>need to be put on the table and discussed.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, Look, one of the advantages of the Federation is

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<v Speaker 6>that you can learn from other states, and WA in

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<v Speaker 6>particular has very strong anti hate speech laws. Now, I

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<v Speaker 6>regret we looked at these laws last year, changing them,

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<v Speaker 6>strengthening them, ensuring that it didn't require private prosecution from

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<v Speaker 6>concerned citizens, but rather the state making responsibility for someone

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<v Speaker 6>who's trying to sow hate.

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<v Speaker 5>And division in our community.

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<v Speaker 6>I regret we didn't change the laws then, but I've

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<v Speaker 6>learned our lesson. We are looking at other jurisdictions we

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<v Speaker 6>want to introduce those laws. And the reason for it, Jari,

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<v Speaker 6>is really straightforward, and that is I don't think that

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<v Speaker 6>these anti Semitic attacks begin with someone committing a violent

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<v Speaker 6>offense I think they commit. I think they begin with words,

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<v Speaker 6>in particular racist words and vitriolic words that then sparks

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<v Speaker 6>something in a bad actor who goes and commits a

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<v Speaker 6>terrible offense. So we want to nip it in the

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<v Speaker 6>bud at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll do that with law.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're seeing this sort of language both by hate

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<v Speaker 2>preachers but also pro Palestinian marches on the streets where

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<v Speaker 2>we see language that actually calls for a massacre against Jews.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in Arabic these chants. Do you think that needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be dealt with it and put a stop to look.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, any any call to violence in our community on

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<v Speaker 6>the basis of division and hatred needs to be confronted.

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<v Speaker 5>By civic society South Wales.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I've said this many times, but we don't

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<v Speaker 6>have the same free speech laws that they have in

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<v Speaker 6>the United States. They're far stronger, they're tougher, and I

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<v Speaker 6>don't make any I don't make any excuses for that.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the reason is because we live in a

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<v Speaker 6>multi cultural community. We except people from around the world

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<v Speaker 6>regardless of their faith. But if you come to our country.

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<v Speaker 6>Then there are rights and there are responsibilities, and the

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<v Speaker 6>responsibility to respect your fellow Australian is paramount. And if

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<v Speaker 6>we need laws in place to make that point even

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<v Speaker 6>more self evident, that's exactly what we'll do.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like there has been a green light given

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<v Speaker 2>to the hate speech from some of these hate preachers.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's been the case?

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<v Speaker 6>Look, I hope not, and I think it's incumbent upon

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<v Speaker 6>political leaders civic leaders to say that it's never justifiable.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's been no laws used against any of

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<v Speaker 2>the hate preachers who are speaking an extremely offensive language

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<v Speaker 2>about Jews.

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<v Speaker 6>Though. Look, the point here, Shahi is that it shouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>be politicians that pick a prosecution or a private individual.

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<v Speaker 5>It should be the state.

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<v Speaker 6>And since similar laws have been in place in Western Australia,

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<v Speaker 6>there's been fifty two prosecutions against individuals who weren't taking

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<v Speaker 6>the extra step of promoting violence, but were in fact

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<v Speaker 6>promoting hate towards someone's race. And I think we can

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<v Speaker 6>have similar laws here in New South Wales. So is

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<v Speaker 6>that we can stop it before it happens now? I

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<v Speaker 6>can't promise, No political leader can promise, and then to

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<v Speaker 6>sit an end sorry to anti Semitic attacks. Unfortunately, there's

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<v Speaker 6>some terrible, terrible people in our community. But what I

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<v Speaker 6>can do is say that we will put all of

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<v Speaker 6>our resources as well as changes to the law to

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<v Speaker 6>keep the community safe, so that you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Just announcing this now that you're going to look at

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<v Speaker 2>this tough new laws on hate spitch.

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<v Speaker 6>That as well as changes to protest laws out the

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<v Speaker 6>front of religious institutions. I don't think it's reasonable if

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<v Speaker 6>we are serious about freedom of religion and freedom of association,

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<v Speaker 6>to have somebody villify it for going into or example,

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<v Speaker 6>the Great Synagogue in the middle of Sydney.

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<v Speaker 5>Because of their religion.

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<v Speaker 6>They should be free to do that, free from intimidation,

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<v Speaker 6>free from hatred. So I've made a decision to introduce

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<v Speaker 6>legislation to put a zone around all religious institutions so

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<v Speaker 6>that people who practice their religion can do it in peace.

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<v Speaker 2>Those laws will certainly be welcome and let's hope they

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<v Speaker 2>make a difference. Look, Peter Dutan says there needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be mandatory minimum sentences for anti Semitic and terror offenses.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that should be put on the table at the

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<v Speaker 2>National cabinet. Do you agree this would be a strong

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<v Speaker 2>deterrent as well well.

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<v Speaker 6>I think tough sentences need to be part of the

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<v Speaker 6>deterrent here, and I think that when I've spoken to

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<v Speaker 6>members of the Jewish community, they've made it incredibly clear

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<v Speaker 6>to me that they're concerned that.

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<v Speaker 5>A soft touch approach has led.

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<v Speaker 6>To an emboldenment when it comes to attacks in our community.

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<v Speaker 6>Now that can't stand. These are serious offenses. Those who've

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<v Speaker 6>been charged or arrested with these serious offenses face years

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<v Speaker 6>in jail if they're convicted, But mandatory minimum sentences are

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<v Speaker 6>restricted to a very small number of offenses in New

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<v Speaker 6>South Wales. The one that comes to mind is the

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<v Speaker 6>murder of a police officer, but terrorism offenses, rape offenses,

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<v Speaker 6>sexual assault offenses, pedophile offenses, those that are convicted of

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<v Speaker 6>those chargers face long periods in time, but they're not

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<v Speaker 6>mandatory minimum sentences. I think my responsibility is to ensure

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<v Speaker 6>that the police have got resources to affect arrests and

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<v Speaker 6>when individuals are put.

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<v Speaker 5>Before the courts, that the full force.

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<v Speaker 6>Of the law is applied to them, and I think

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<v Speaker 6>we can do that under the existing regime. Although I

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<v Speaker 6>want to make it clear if we need to put

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<v Speaker 6>in as aggravating factors at sentencing the targeting of anyone,

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<v Speaker 6>but at the moment we're talking about the Jewish community,

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<v Speaker 6>that's what we'll do. And secondly, we'll look at offenses

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<v Speaker 6>that drive this kind of behavior, like, for example, hate

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<v Speaker 6>speech laws.

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<v Speaker 2>You said before that you regret not strengthening your hate

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<v Speaker 2>speech laws last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of us look back to the Opera House.

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<v Speaker 2>Protests and similar protests around that time as the starting point,

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<v Speaker 2>and the fact that the federal government, from the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister down didn't seem to take this issue seriously. They

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't speak about anti Semitism without also speaking about Islamophobia.

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<v Speaker 2>November twenty twenty three, Peter dutt And asked the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister to convene a national cabinet that's only happening now

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<v Speaker 2>on this issue in twenty twenty five. Do you understand

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<v Speaker 2>the extreme frustration and anger the Jewish community feels towards

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<v Speaker 2>the federal government for not taking this issue seriously enough?

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<v Speaker 2>An how we're in a situation where today a childcare.

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<v Speaker 1>Center has been Firebond.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, look, I can't speak on behalf of the Jewish

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<v Speaker 6>community in New South Wales but what I can say

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<v Speaker 6>is that we work very closely with the Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 6>and not just at that level, but between state agencies

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<v Speaker 6>and the Commonwealth agencies, whether they're security agencies, the Federal Police,

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<v Speaker 6>the New South Wales Police, and where laws need to

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<v Speaker 6>be changed, that's exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>What we'll do.

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<v Speaker 6>And I want the community to know that that cooperation

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<v Speaker 6>is essential in combating this kind of outright and clearly

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<v Speaker 6>escalating anti Semitic acts in our community. But they won't

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<v Speaker 6>stop there. So look, I can't speak on behalf of

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<v Speaker 6>the Jewish community in New.

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<v Speaker 2>South I'm telling you that there's a lot of anger

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<v Speaker 2>towards the federal government, but you would know that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, all I can do is focus on my responsibility

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<v Speaker 6>as the Premier of New South Wales and I just

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<v Speaker 6>want to say a couple of things. We will work

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<v Speaker 6>with Anthony Albanesi's government to keep the community safe and

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<v Speaker 6>we've done that. And secondly, I can understand that the

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<v Speaker 6>Jewish community in New South Wales is feeling, perhaps perhaps

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<v Speaker 6>for the first time, a deep, deep worry and concern

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<v Speaker 6>about their personal safety and security, or even their families'

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<v Speaker 6>personal safety and security. I mean Alex's former house was targeted,

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<v Speaker 6>I believe in a targeted attack. I spoke to him

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<v Speaker 6>not long after it was revealed in the media, and

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<v Speaker 6>can I tell you that the kind of strength, the

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<v Speaker 6>clarity and the fact that he refused to be cowed

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<v Speaker 6>by that attack is truly inspiring. And I think that

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<v Speaker 6>that kind of sense in the Jewish community is pervasive.

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<v Speaker 6>I've got no doubt that that community will not be bowed,

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<v Speaker 6>notwithstanding the real threat that it faces. And I'd like

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<v Speaker 6>them to know that the vast majority of Australians are

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<v Speaker 6>on their side. They regard these attacks as completely antithetical

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<v Speaker 6>to what it means to be Australian and we are

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<v Speaker 6>with the Jewish community today and every day. New South

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<v Speaker 6>Wales police will not stop until they arrest the people

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<v Speaker 6>who are responsible for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Really appreciate and we're grateful for your support and thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much for your time.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, Premier, thank Charry.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's New South I was Premier Chris Men's announcing

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<v Speaker 2>new anti hate speech.

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<v Speaker 1>Laws desperately needed.

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<v Speaker 2>These laws will apply to anyone, including hate preachers or

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<v Speaker 2>pro palest In activists who sow division and.

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<v Speaker 1>Sprout racist vitriol.

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<v Speaker 2>As the Premiere quite rightly says, violent attacks begin with words,

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<v Speaker 2>so he is taking action there. Look his comment at

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<v Speaker 2>the end about the resilience of our Jewish Australian community.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true, but we shouldn't have to live in fear

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<v Speaker 2>this terrorism.

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<v Speaker 1>These every couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's not even weekly, it's a couple of times

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<v Speaker 2>a week. These attacks shouldn't be happening, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>just think it wasn't that long ago. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, there was no anti Semitism on the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>This wasn't happening. I can't believe this is the life

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<v Speaker 2>we're now living. And I hope the strong police action

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<v Speaker 2>works soon and that we do put an end to

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<v Speaker 2>this and manage to move past it. All right, My

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<v Speaker 2>interview with Peter Dutton still coming up on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>He talks about Donald Trump, the end of woke, and

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<v Speaker 2>the childcare fire bombing as well. But now let's cross

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<v Speaker 2>live to Washington for more on this historic Trump inauguration.

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<v Speaker 2>Sky News correspondent Analie Nielsen joins me. Now, Annalise, what

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<v Speaker 2>a massive day. Can you talk us through some of

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<v Speaker 2>the main executive orders that Trump signed on his first

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<v Speaker 2>day in office?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, he went straight for it, and why wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 7>sign as many influential executive orders as you can now,

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<v Speaker 7>because this is the moment when he has the most goodwill,

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<v Speaker 7>the biggest mandate coming in, having won the popular and

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<v Speaker 7>the electoral College vote, and really so much support, especially

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<v Speaker 7>from the business community. It was notable that he had

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<v Speaker 7>all those tech executives front and center for his swearing in.

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<v Speaker 7>So he signed in an executive order taking the US

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<v Speaker 7>out of the Paris Climate Accord. He's signed an executive

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<v Speaker 7>order declaring that there are two genders. Now, this seems

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<v Speaker 7>like it might just be something that his critics would

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<v Speaker 7>call virtue signaling, but there are practical ramifications of that

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<v Speaker 7>for especially federal government employees and how they go to work,

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<v Speaker 7>and it can go down to things like on government forms,

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<v Speaker 7>drop down bars having two gender options. There's also going

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<v Speaker 7>to be restrictions on how people interact in the military

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<v Speaker 7>if they identify as trends, and there are additional executive

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<v Speaker 7>orders on that. He's implemented in an executive order to

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<v Speaker 7>extend TikTok's lifespan to stave off that coming to a

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<v Speaker 7>head while he's in his first few days. But that

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<v Speaker 7>will have to have some kind of agreement to either

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<v Speaker 7>have American ownership divestiture or it will still be shut

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<v Speaker 7>down as per the congressional rules. And he's implemented another

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<v Speaker 7>executive order that's going to make a big difference here

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<v Speaker 7>in Washington, DC. He's mandating that everyone has to go

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<v Speaker 7>back to work, no more teleworking, and that's going to

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<v Speaker 7>be a big impetus for his Department of Government Efficiency,

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<v Speaker 7>which was supposed to be Elon Musk and for Vek Ramaswamy.

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<v Speaker 7>They announced yesterday for Vex standing down from that one.

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<v Speaker 7>And it seems like he'll be running for governor of Ohio,

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<v Speaker 7>but that hasn't been confirmed yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking at Joe Biden in his exit, he sparked outrage

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<v Speaker 2>with his last minute pardons, both of his family and

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<v Speaker 2>about Anthony Fauci and others.

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<v Speaker 1>Annalise, Yes, this was unexpected.

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<v Speaker 7>He's already racked up the most executive pardons of any president,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think he was anticipating Donald Trump coming in

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 7>and trumping that number anyway. But what he did in

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<v Speaker 7>the last few moments was extraordinary in not only giving

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<v Speaker 7>his own relatives his siblings a preemptive pardon, as there

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 7>was a probe into his brother using influence peddling to

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<v Speaker 7>make money. He's also given preemptive pardons to Anthony Fauci,

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<v Speaker 7>the COVID czar from the Donald Trump years. He gave

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 7>a preemptive pardon to General Millie, who is so instrumental

0:27:59.880 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 7>and disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. And in doing this, what

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<v Speaker 7>he's actually really set them up.

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<v Speaker 1>For is further.

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<v Speaker 7>Investigation from Congress, because when you have these presidential pardons,

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<v Speaker 7>it is a power of the president to say you

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<v Speaker 7>won't be pursued personally.

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<v Speaker 1>But what that means is if.

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<v Speaker 7>You accept it as they have, you can no longer

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<v Speaker 7>claim the Fifth Amendment right to not testify in your

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 7>own defense because the premise is that you can no

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 7>longer be prosecuted, so you don't need that protection. So

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<v Speaker 7>I would expect Republicans to make full use of that,

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<v Speaker 7>and we should be having some very confrontational hearings on

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<v Speaker 7>the matter. They'll still be one to investigate what went

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<v Speaker 7>wrong after those big policy Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and look the world deserves to know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>no more hiding and political protection anymore. Annalie Nilsen, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much for your coverage, not just now but

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate your time. Now still to come.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we're already we know Albanese's judgment is bad. But

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<v Speaker 2>wait till you hear who's who he's decided to send

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<v Speaker 2>to represent Australia at the eightieth Commemoration of the Liberation

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 2>of Aschwitz.

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<v Speaker 1>It is astounding.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll talk about that with Bronwyn Bishop and Holly Hughes next,

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<v Speaker 2>plus my exclusive interview with Peter Dutton coming up. We

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>discuss Albanese's stunning backflip on the National Cabinet meeting and

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Trump's return to power. Peter Dutton predicts the age of

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 2>woke is over. That interview coming up, Welcome back, Well,

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 2>lots more analysis to come. I'm going to ask my

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>panel in a minute if they agree with Trump's executive

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 2>order to return to two genders. But first I want

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>to tell you about what the Albaneze government has done.

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<v Speaker 2>They plan to send Senator Sue Lines to represent Australia

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<v Speaker 2>at the event commemorating the eightieth Liberation of Auschwitz that's

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<v Speaker 2>early next week. This is despite her hostile anti Israel history. Now,

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 2>former Treasurer Josh Friedenberg came out publicly he said to

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<v Speaker 2>the PM, reconsider this decision. It's a serious error of judgment.

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 2>He said, you're sending the wrong message with the wrong messenger.

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Now Albanezi was embarrassed and he scrambled. He dumped Sue

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Lines as the head of the delegation she might still

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<v Speaker 2>be going, and he replaced her with Penny.

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<v Speaker 1>Wong Mark Drefus as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's sending the most anti Israel foreign minister, who's

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<v Speaker 2>been pretty weak on anti Semitism, to Auschwitz where a

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 2>million Jews were murdered. Prime Minister couldn't have worse judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's bring in now former Speaker of the House Bronwin

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Bishop and Liberal Senator Holly Hughes Browin.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think of this?

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<v Speaker 8>The man is so imbued with these anti Israel policies

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 8>that he has no sense at all what he's doing.

0:30:56.440 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 8>The man is a fool, and to insult the memory

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 8>of those people who are murdered in that way is atrocious.

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<v Speaker 8>And I just saw that Sir Frank Lowie is going,

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<v Speaker 8>and I remember seeing an image of Sir Frank Philly

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 8>recently looking at it again when he was looking at

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 8>a carriage which his parents were taken to us with

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 8>Alberanezi has got to be got out of public life

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 8>in this country. To send Penny Wong as a replacement

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<v Speaker 8>for the Lions woman who should not be going at all,

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 8>is just insanity, Holly.

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 9>I mean, soe Lyons has completely I don't know her

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 9>from the Senate and she doesn't cover herself in glory

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 9>particularly well there either. But she is well known as

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 9>being of the rabbit left within the Labor Party. She

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 9>is incredibly anti Israel, very pro Palestine, one of the

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 9>ones out they're supporting anra looking, you know, just absolutely

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 9>the wrong person. And if they had to send one

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 9>of the officials, so the Speaker or the President, Milton Dick,

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 9>who Speaker of the House of Representatives is a really

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 9>strong supporter of Israel, he would have been a much

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 9>better choice if they had to send one of the

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 9>presiding officers to go, because I know Scott Ryan went

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 9>ten years ago for the seventieth anniversaries, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe the Prime Minister could have gone himself. Given King

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Charles is going, you'd think that King Charles can take

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 2>the time to go.

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 9>And we know Airbus Albo loves a trip, so here's

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 9>another opportunity for him to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go and he might learn something.

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<v Speaker 2>We might learn something about anti Semitism and react to

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<v Speaker 2>all of this differently.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's not.

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 8>He's been imbued with it since he was a university.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's return to Trump's inauguration, and I want

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 2>to ask you both about some of his most bold

0:32:56.200 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 2>executive orders. He's withdrawn from the Paris Timate. A. Cords said,

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 2>there will only be two genders, a man and a woman.

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Run when you know too much of us.

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<v Speaker 2>To many of us, it's kind of a relief to

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<v Speaker 2>hear someone speak in such a rational way.

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, who needs many, many, many genders.

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<v Speaker 8>When we don't. And now he's settled it. But the

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<v Speaker 8>most important thing for me was withdrawing from the Paris Accord.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole question of energy.

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<v Speaker 8>He made a statement literally today that he was going

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<v Speaker 8>to use all the energy resources available in America to

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<v Speaker 8>make America rich and powerful, and we are denying ourselves

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 8>the ability to do that. You cannot be a rich,

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:46.959
<v Speaker 8>powerful nation in this world today without cheap energy and

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 8>lots of it, because more and more development like AI

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 8>is going to take more and more energy to create

0:33:56.320 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 8>those data centers. So we have in that bumbling Bowen

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 8>person is just a fool of a man. Yet another

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.879
<v Speaker 8>one of his plans to have offshore when mills has

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:15.280
<v Speaker 8>fallen over. Thank goodness, but it is just so simple

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 8>that we have been indowbt with such treasures.

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Of gas, of coal.

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 8>We've still got oil we don't look for anymore, and nuclear.

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 8>So we have the opportunity to give us back what

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:33.919
<v Speaker 8>used to be our only competitive advantage, which was cheap electricity,

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 8>because we had a high wage structure, a high unionized

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 8>workforce at the time. And what this government has done

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 8>is decimate those advantages for us. So, thank goodness, Trump

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 8>has done it, and it will it will come down

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 8>here because it will affect world investment.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the great things, Holly, is that

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 2>often politicians are looking ahead to their next term or

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 2>the next job.

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Trump is run again. This is it.

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 2>So he's got a strong mandate, he's got control of

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the House of the Senate, so he's just doing whatever

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 2>he wants.

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<v Speaker 9>And you think how exciting today was. Like you had

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 9>the inauguration itself, the ceremonial part, but then the fact

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 9>that he just started signing executive orders, you know, changing

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 9>the name of the Gulf of Mexico. I mean, you know,

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 9>I don't even know if we have that power in

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 9>Australia to just go and do these things. It's quite extraordinary.

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 9>So what is ahead for the next four years. I

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 9>think he's going to be really exciting. And I think

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.800
<v Speaker 9>some of the decisions that he's made getting out of

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 9>the WHO. I mean, it was only over the weekend

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 9>I was talking to some people. If there was another pandemic,

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 9>there's no way Australians would put up with being locked

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 9>down and locked away and treated like they were during

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 9>the last COVID pandemic. And I think getting out of

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 9>the WHO, not buying into this globalist idea, We're going

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 9>to see more and more of that coming through American sovereignty,

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 9>the southern border, the work that he's going to do there.

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 9>And of course he's going to California on Friday, so

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 9>it'll be interesting to say with the fires there, what

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 9>his response is and how he deals with those manners

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 9>in the Californian government and how they've destroyed California.

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about the preemptive pardon of his

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:17.959
<v Speaker 2>family members, Bronman Biden Biden.

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 8>I was truly shocked I mean to make that announcement

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 8>what minutes before Trump was making his speech, and it's

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:36.800
<v Speaker 8>the date. It's twenty and fourteen, eleven years.

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Back there.

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<v Speaker 8>That's when when his son went onto the board in

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 8>the Ukraine of the guest company. I think it was

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 8>with no experience in whichever that company was, but to

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 8>go for the whole family. But also Fauci, Yes, exactly,

0:36:56.000 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 8>so angry. Your book was so spot on. It was

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 8>in the lab without any doubt at all. And it

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 8>is quite clear to me that pauts She was the

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 8>one who was pushing gain of function, which is to

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 8>make it more potent for human beings. That's what he

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:14.280
<v Speaker 8>was doing. And hiding the money that he was sending.

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 8>And for these people to be pardoned in this.

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<v Speaker 9>Group, but it's bizarre, and I don't know, Bro, when

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 9>you're a lawyer, how can you preemptively pardon someone who

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 9>hasn't been charged, let alone convicted?

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, how does that work.

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>We're out of time though, because I've got a Peter

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Dutton interview coming up next.

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>We can't get into that off I take up this time, Holly.

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Here's Robin Bishop, so lovely to see you, as always

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 2>coming up after the break. Well, ALBINIZI has been dragged,

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>kicking and screaming to this national cabinet more than a

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 2>year after Dutton called for one.

0:37:53.920 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>We'll hear his thoughts next. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Peter Dutton could be Australia's next Prime minister. He's

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:07.240
<v Speaker 2>pulling ahead of Alban Easy in the polls and let's

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 2>face it, the PM has been pathetic when it comes

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 2>to the rise in anti Semitism over the past fifteen months.

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>And today we woke up to the.

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Horrific news a childcare center had been firebompt. Well, I

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 2>sat down with Peter Dutton to speak about all of

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 2>this and Donald Trump a little while ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Dutton, thank you so much for your time.

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Thank surey you first called for a national cabinet in

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:35.760
<v Speaker 2>November twenty twenty three. It's now more than a year

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 2>later and we've seen a childcare center firebont overnight. The

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister finally listened to your demand today. In your view,

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 2>is Alban Easy in his government partly to blame for

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 2>the escalating violence that we've seen.

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<v Speaker 10>Sure, there's no doubt in my mind whatsoever, and I

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 10>think it was entirely predictable the last twelve fourteen months

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 10>because of what we saw on the steps of the

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 10>Opera House and when you saw the depth of hatred.

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 10>And we have all known, of course that anty Semitism

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 10>is lurking just beneath the surface, but I think it

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 10>was given a face and we saw the depth of

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.479
<v Speaker 10>some of it on the steps of the Opera House,

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 10>and that was the trigger, I thought for the Prime

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 10>Minister to have what I've described as sort of the

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 10>port Arthur moment that John Howard had to take a

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 10>terrible circumstance and show the leadership that the nation required.

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:35.280
<v Speaker 10>And I think you could reasonably predict what has happened

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 10>over the course of the last twelve months that is

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 10>continuing to escalate. But the Prime Minister seems to have

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 10>either not acknowledged that, not comprehended it, or has just

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 10>been out of his depth in terms of trying to

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 10>deal with an issue. And I think the National Cabinet

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 10>coming together with a meaningful agenda with action items, it

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 10>would have sent a clear message from the Prime Minister

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 10>and the premiers and Chief Ministers, to the police ministers

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 10>and to the police commissioners across the jurisdictions and at

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 10>a commonwealth level that we have zero tolerance for the

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 10>anti semitism, the actions on the university campuses, etc. That

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 10>we're allowed to continue on. Had there been a national

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 10>cabinet where it had been determined and agreement had been

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 10>arrived at that the States weren't going to allow that

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 10>sort of hateful conduct, then we wouldn't have seen the

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 10>escalation of my judgment and people would have known that

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 10>there's a consequence for their actions.

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<v Speaker 1>At the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Every night you go to sleep and you worry what

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<v Speaker 2>the night holds, what's going to unfold, which institution or

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<v Speaker 2>home is going to be attacked next. You wake up

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning terrified at what's happened overnight, scared to

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<v Speaker 2>look at the news.

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<v Speaker 1>How can we live like this in this country?

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<v Speaker 10>I can't understand the amount of inaction that we've seen

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<v Speaker 10>from the government in Victoria. The Premier there has just

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<v Speaker 10>been as weak, frankly as the Prime minister. And I

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<v Speaker 10>think what makes it most egregious is that people are

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<v Speaker 10>living with that fear, not because the Prime minister has

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<v Speaker 10>some greater national security cause in mind, or it's a

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<v Speaker 10>piece on a chessboard that he's had to play because

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<v Speaker 10>of the geopolitical circumstances in the region of the world.

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<v Speaker 10>He's done it for crass political reasons, which I think

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<v Speaker 10>makes it even more offensive to people, because he's decided

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<v Speaker 10>to support one segment of the society, of our society

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<v Speaker 10>and to essentially shun another part of society. I just

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<v Speaker 10>haven't seen a prime minister do that before. And I

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<v Speaker 10>think you're right. There are a lot of Australians who

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<v Speaker 10>are living with the fear that their house is going

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<v Speaker 10>to be broken into and keys are going to be

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<v Speaker 10>stolen to take the car, and so people are leaving

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<v Speaker 10>their keys by the front door or in the kitchen

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<v Speaker 10>and playing sight And it's just a small example of

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<v Speaker 10>what the entire Jewish community is living with at the moment,

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<v Speaker 10>because they're worried they're going to be targeted, not because

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<v Speaker 10>of their car, but because of their religion or because

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<v Speaker 10>of the fact that they've got Jewish heritage, and many

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<v Speaker 10>of whom are talking to a couple of yesterday who've

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<v Speaker 10>been his sixty years, living peacefully in a suburban and

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<v Speaker 10>they're the subject of one of these arson attacks, and

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<v Speaker 10>it's just apporortling.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know the couple you mean, and that

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five year old man went out in his pajamas

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<v Speaker 2>at four am and holding a hose had to try

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<v Speaker 2>and put out the flames of the touched cars. Eighty

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<v Speaker 2>five holding the hose at four in the morning. It's

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<v Speaker 2>unfathomable that this is what Sydney, Australia has come to.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, well, I absolutely agree, and I think we have

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<v Speaker 10>to have zero tolerance. So we've made announcements in relation

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<v Speaker 10>to strengthening of the laws that we think would provide

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<v Speaker 10>a very significant deterrence around mandatory around mandatory sentencing. And

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<v Speaker 10>if we can do that, then I think we have

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<v Speaker 10>a much better chance of stamping out the anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 10>that's now rife in our country.

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<v Speaker 2>So the National Cabinet is meeting almost as we speak.

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<v Speaker 2>They aren't considering the mandatory sentences that you've put on

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<v Speaker 2>the table, that you, as a police officer, think would

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<v Speaker 2>work as a deterrent to criminals looking at taking this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of violent action. Why do you think mandatory sentences

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<v Speaker 2>are important?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I spoke with Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>Men's earlier and he said that those sort of laws

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<v Speaker 2>were reserved for the most heinous crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Like murdering a policeman.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, what about murdering an Australian because of their religious

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<v Speaker 10>affiliation or murdering an Australian because their grandparents were have

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<v Speaker 10>migrated from Israel or were in the Holocaust. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>I don't understand his point. Every Australian life is sacrasanct.

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<v Speaker 10>And we're talking about terrorist attacks now. This is not

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<v Speaker 10>a random break and enter into a house to steal

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<v Speaker 10>money to buy food or buy drugs. People are being targeted.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a wave of terror to message.

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<v Speaker 10>These are terrorist acts. And if there were a series

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<v Speaker 10>of rolling terrorist attacks in the community, I think the

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<v Speaker 10>Prime Minister would call a National Cabinet and a National

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<v Speaker 10>Security Committee meeting in a heartbeat. And yet it's taken

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<v Speaker 10>him fifteen months to get to this point. Fourteen months

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<v Speaker 10>to get to this point, and he does it without

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<v Speaker 10>any fanfare, or he had a press conference with the

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<v Speaker 10>Premier this morning, made no mention of it and holds

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<v Speaker 10>it this afternoon. I think just to tick the box

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<v Speaker 10>to exactly that the National Cabinet meeting should be an

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<v Speaker 10>opportunity to bring premiers and the police ministers together as

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<v Speaker 10>well as the Police commissioners and the security agencies to

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<v Speaker 10>say this is a national crisis and what we're dealing

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<v Speaker 10>with now is a national crisis and how do we

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<v Speaker 10>respond most adequately to it. I think the laws are

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<v Speaker 10>inadequate as they currently stand, which has been said before

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<v Speaker 10>by some of the Labor politicians. If that's their view,

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<v Speaker 10>then bring an amendment to the Act and will support

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<v Speaker 10>it through Parliament in the next fortnight. So unless there

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<v Speaker 10>is a substantive package that we're not aware of, and

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<v Speaker 10>I hope that there is that's been considered by the

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<v Speaker 10>National Cabinet, this is really just a medium management exercised

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<v Speaker 10>by the Prime Minister and won't provide any comfort or

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<v Speaker 10>any assurance that we could see a better response to

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<v Speaker 10>the anti Semitism that is up by seven hundred percent

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<v Speaker 10>across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's inauguration obviously has just happened. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to lead the next Australian government you

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<v Speaker 2>would have a better relationship with President Trump rather than

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<v Speaker 2>the Urbanese government.

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<v Speaker 10>Look, there's no doubt in my mind. I think the

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<v Speaker 10>philosophical differences between the Prime Minister and President Trump are obvious.

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<v Speaker 10>Prime Minister and comfort in his relationship with Jacindra Adurn

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<v Speaker 10>and Justin Treudeau and other left leaning leaders around the world.

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<v Speaker 10>That's a reflection of just on the Prime minister's life

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<v Speaker 10>and his outlook. He's been the leader of the hard

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<v Speaker 10>left of the Labor Party for decades. What does he

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<v Speaker 10>have in common with Donald Trump? What common ground could

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<v Speaker 10>they find in relation two key issues. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 10>imagine much at all. So there's no doubt in my

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<v Speaker 10>mind that we can have a very effective relationship and

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<v Speaker 10>a productive relationship and a respectful relationship mutually with the

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<v Speaker 10>Trump administration. In a government that I lead, we have

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<v Speaker 10>people of the caliber of James Patterson, who has very

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<v Speaker 10>good relationships with key individuals within the Trump administration. Similarly

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<v Speaker 10>with Andrew Hasty, Angus Taylor, myself and I dealt with

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<v Speaker 10>the Trump administration mark one, with the Trump forty five administrations.

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<v Speaker 10>So I feel very confident in the relationship that we

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<v Speaker 10>could quickly build, and I think it would be to

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<v Speaker 10>our country's benefit that we're able to leverage off that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you dealt with the administration on national security matters

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<v Speaker 2>of course.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Peter Dutton, really appreciate your time. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, well, thank you, thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, thank you all right. I also spoke with Peter

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<v Speaker 2>Dutton about whether he'd pull out of the Paris Climate

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<v Speaker 2>Acords like Trump, about what he thinks about the woke

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<v Speaker 2>agenda coming to an end. All of that is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be on the Sky News website in about fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>We couldn't fit it all in here, and more to

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<v Speaker 1>come after the break.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's cross live to Israel now and bring in

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<v Speaker 2>October seven. Hero Nimrod, Powermack Nimrod. Great to see you again.

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<v Speaker 2>Look what's been the reaction in Israel to the Palestinian

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<v Speaker 2>criminals who've been released in exchange for the return of

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<v Speaker 2>three hostages.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you, Sherry for having me. It's good to be here. Listen.

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<v Speaker 11>I think the sentiment is really complicated. On the one hand,

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<v Speaker 11>we all wanted to see our sisters and brothers getting

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<v Speaker 11>out from the hell of Hamas dungeons and tunnels, and

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<v Speaker 11>we couldn't imagine a better result of the city's three

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<v Speaker 11>girls leaving these tunnels. On the other hand, we all

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<v Speaker 11>understand these are not just prisoners. This is convicted terrorists

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<v Speaker 11>that killed many lives and now it's us to deal with.

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<v Speaker 11>But I completely trust the IDF to be able to

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<v Speaker 11>deal with any one of them that would choose the

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<v Speaker 11>path of tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I mean, we know that Sinoa was one of

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<v Speaker 2>those released in the previous hostage deal for Gillard Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 2>So there is this concern again, how do you think

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<v Speaker 2>IDF will be able to keep track of everyone?

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<v Speaker 11>So the IDEF has its own methodologies of how to

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<v Speaker 11>count to terror. Eventually, if one of them will choose

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<v Speaker 11>the path of Telor and we'll choose to reconnect with

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<v Speaker 11>Tailor ourselves in the West Bank or wherever they will go,

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<v Speaker 11>it's really really easy for them to do that. But

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<v Speaker 11>again I'm trust that the IDEA will be able to

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<v Speaker 11>take care of that. What interestingly the most is to

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<v Speaker 11>be able to see more and more of our brothers

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<v Speaker 11>coming back because we all don't know what's the situation there.

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<v Speaker 2>We have no Idea and we hope for another three

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<v Speaker 2>being released on Saturday. Nimrod, I apologize, it's been a

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<v Speaker 2>packed show. We'll get you on again. I'll see everyone

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow night at eight. And here's Paul Marie