WEBVTT - The U.S. Report | 28 November 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:05.800 This is the US Report with James Morrow. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:09.879 Good evening and welcome to the program. Here's what's coming 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.640 up tonight on a special Thanksgiving weekend US Report. It's 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.080 less than a year to the midterms, and there's a 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:19.720 serious threat browing to Donald Trump's Republican majority in the House. 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:24.520 Plus why are American welfare dollars supporting a civil war 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:29.200 in Somalia? That's all in the name of diversity. Plus 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:35.240 jd Vance talks Turkey the bird, not the country. But first, 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:37.640 I was hoping to come on air tonight with a 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.760 bit of a lighter offering for you, you know, Turkey 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.600 pardons and the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade and all that. But 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:48.239 instead we need to talk about the downward spiral of 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:52.000 violence in the United States being led by a left 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.720 that is now openly excusing, if not cheering, attacks on 0:00:55.960 --> 0:01:00.160 anyone who has anything to do with the Trump administration, 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.840 and which not only that, but also seems held bent 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:08.240 on driving the US towards a crisis of legitimacy far 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:13.200 worse than anything we saw on January sixth. Now, by 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.040 now you know the story of the two National Guards 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.000 members who were gunned down in cold blood in Washington, 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:24.600 d C yesterday allegedly by this man, Afghan national Ramanola 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:29.480 La Khanwal, who details are emerging, turns out to have 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:33.440 worked for the US government, including agencies like the CIA, 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.960 in his home country of Afghanistan, and was brought into 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.120 the US by the Abided administration in twenty twenty one 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:45.920 during the chaotic withdrawal of American forces from Afghanistan, which, 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.920 of course we all recall, saw thousands of Afghans let 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:54.320 into the US after vetting processes that were, say the least, 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:58.600 not great. But more about that in a moment. What 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.600 is even more about the disturbing case here in which 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.040 Lockerwall allegedly snuck up on one of the guard members 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.559 and shot him in the head and then fired several 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:11.160 shots at a second guard member before he was overpowered. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.079 Has been the reaction of so many in the US 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.960 to the shootings, because you see to hear them tell it. 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:21.639 The victims where National Guard stationed in DC as part 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.040 of Donald Trump's effort to clean up the nation's capital. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:29.320 Here's how one MSNBC commentator put it, as the news 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:30.480 was breaking. 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.119 So much controversy happening in the United States right now, 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:38.840 with Ice who are also wearing uniforms and wearing masks, 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:44.160 and so there's you don't know, people walking around with 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:49.160 uniforms in an American city. There are some Americans that 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:53.800 might object to that. And so apparently this shooting has happened. 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.519 Hey, you know, people don't like ace, I say, in 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.880 the National Guard round, So is it any surprise that 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.520 they got popped. It seems to be the attitude and 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.880 you know what, it's sick. But of course this was 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.799 nothing on the way. The media has been whipping up 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:12.880 hysteria about the National Guard in recent weeks, comparing them, 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:17.080 oh yeah, to Nazis and the like. Here was CNN 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.160 just a few weeks ago where they were speaking to 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:23.480 a retired major general and professional Trump hater. 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.440 What the president is doing, through the Secretary of Defense 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:33.120 is creating units, official military units, to quite frankly, guard, 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.800 or not guard, watch the American people. 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.200 And that's the thing that is absolutely. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:39.720 Abhorrent. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.960 It reminds me so much of what happened in Germany 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:44.000 in the nineteen thirties. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.040 Germany nineteen thirties, yep, you know what that means. And 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:52.240 around the same time, Oregon Democrat congresswoman Maxine Dexter was 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.600 talking about doing everything she could to fight the National 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.520 Guard coming to her city of Portland. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:04.800 I would say is an extraordinarily dangerous precedent by militarizing 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:08.160 our city and moving towards a dictatorship. 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.680 Here's a leader of the African American community in Washington 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:12.360 with his thoughts. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:20.120 We believe that the National Guard and the military occupation 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.720 is the first step into rounding black people up and 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.719 putting them in detainment camps here in Washington, DC. 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.919 Wow, gotta love that one. And hey, here's a little 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:37.040 icing on the cake. Another Democrat, Senator Alissa Slotkin here 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:42.000 talking about the National Guard coming to shoot civilians. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.159 It makes me incredibly nervous that we're about to see 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:50.239 people in law enforcement, people in uniform military, get nervous, 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:55.120 get stressed, shoot at American civilians. It is a very 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.320 very stressful situation for these law enforcement and for the 0:04:58.360 --> 0:04:59.480 communities on the ground. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:04.040 So now, again we don't know the alleged shooter's motives 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:10.520 in DC, but we do know this. Prominent Democrats, not crazies. 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:16.400 Prominent Democrats, legislators, leaders, and ex generals have been openly 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:20.760 saying not just that they disagree with sending the National 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.400 Guard into cities to help clean them up. I mean, 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.599 if they said that, that's perfectly fine. That's political debate 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.960 about policy. That's all covered by the First Amendment, and 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.719 you want to have that debate. Hey, I say that's great. 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.160 I don't have a problem with it. But instead, no, 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.280 they're not saying that it's not reasonable debate. They are 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:46.920 instead portraying the National Guard as an existential threat to civilians, 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:51.960 to black people, to democracy itself. Now, let's go a 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.960 little deeper into this, shall we. I finished with Senator 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.240 Slotkin there for a reason, because this is not her 0:05:59.279 --> 0:05:59.960 first rodeo. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:00.040 No. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.160 Here, she was just the other day joining a number 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:09.159 of other Democrat luminaries, many who just like her coincidentally 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.920 have ties to the intelligence community and have been urging 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:17.039 uniform servicemen and women, as well as intelligence officers and 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:21.960 other national security professionals too. Well, there's no other word 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:26.120 for it, disobey orders. Not a specific order, mind you, 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.560 but anything they think comes out of the White House 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.120 that they feel might be illegal. 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.080 I'm Senator Alissa Stockin. 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:39.159 Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris S. Deluzio, Congressman, and Maggie Goodland. 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:40.760 You're Representative Chrissy Hulahan. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:42.240 Congressman Jason Crowe. 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.400 I was a captain in the United States Navy. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:48.440 Former CIA officer, former Navy, former paratrooper and Army ranger. 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.120 Former intelligence officer. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:50.760 Former Air Force. 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.640 We want to speak directly to members of the military. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:54.880 And the intelligence community who. 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.280 Take risks each day keep Americans safe. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.360 We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.600 Americans trust their military, with that trust is at risk. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.280 This administration is pitting our uniform military. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.240 And intelligence community professionals. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:10.080 Against American citizens. 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.480 Like us, you all swore an oath. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.360 To protect and of them this constitution. 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.680 Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.360 from a broad but from right here at home. 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:20.360 Our laws are clear. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.920 You can refuse illegal orders. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:27.680 You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.160 No one has to carry out orders that violate the 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:31.760 law or our constitution. 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.960 Of course, none of them can point to any illegal 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:40.400 orders because there haven't been any. But look, no offense there. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.840 But being in the army or being in the National 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.880 Guard of the CIA isn't like, you know, being a 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.040 unitarian or something. You don't just get to believe what 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.840 you want and follow your bliss and still put on 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:53.520 the outfit. 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:55.440 That's not how it works. 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.520 Meanwhile, it's not just this group I've just played for you, 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.040 who have been dubbed the Seditious Six, who are calling 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.640 for troops to stop obeying orders. Check this out. It's 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:10.320 a new outfit calling itself the Orders Project, and it 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:15.200 has mysteriously and coincidentally sprung up. Not only are they 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:19.920 putting up billboards outside military institutions like Fort Bragg again 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:25.000 encouraging troops to disobey orders, they've also set up a 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.560 website and are encouraging it to mean this is just nuts, 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:34.280 encouraging troops to organize using encrypted messaging apps like Signal four. Well, 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.640 whatever's coming next, we don't know. Now. All of this, 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:42.000 of course, is dangerous, dangerous stuff, and you don't even 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.640 need to think very hard to imagine how this sort 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.520 of behavior would be treated. If troops were being told 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:52.520 by the right by conservatives to ignore a Democrat president, 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.440 you'd never hear the end of it. But these luminaries 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:00.920 and lobby groups, well this is really sinister because instead 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.840 of telling troops that they follow orders, that's what they do. 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.600 They're telling troops they need to pick a side. That is, 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.400 they are acting like the US is some sort of 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:14.600 dictatorship and the military has to decide whether or not 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.600 to stand with a dictator i e. Trump, or join 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:23.600 the resistance and stand up to the regime, presumably to 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:28.960 help overthrow it. Now, not to sound paranoid, but it 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.079 does sound like there is some sort of soft version 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:36.400 of what is known as a color revolution being organized 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.560 here and that we are heading towards some sort of 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:43.560 inflection point where people are setting up in the background 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:48.640 the sort of infrastructure and networks needed to force a 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:53.120 crisis of legitimacy on the Trump White House. Now, it 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.040 could be that all of this preparation is preparation for 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.640 next year's midterm elections, or it could be connected to 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.960 the military build up and potential action going on potentially 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:07.120 in Venezuela. But by the way, it seems like there 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:12.079 is an effort to create again underground resistant networks within 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:16.920 the American government and security infrastructure that will then lead, 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.200 as we have seen in other countries, to so called 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:26.320 spontaneous demonstrations, claims that elections are illegitimate. Media support both 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:30.800 domestically and internationally, loss of support for the regime by 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:35.760 the military, and eventually a changing of the guard. We're 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.160 seeing the groundwork laid also with movements like the No 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.880 Kings protests from a few weeks ago, and we've seen 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:46.480 elements two of this playbook before. Recall the twenty twenty 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.680 George Floyd riots, which were nothing short of an attempt 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:54.120 to destabilize the country successfully. I might add, in the 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:57.880 run up to the twenty twenty election, we are also 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:01.319 seeing a further push to amplify the message that if 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:05.079 you go along with Trump, you could be in real 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:10.440 trouble when the wind changes direction. Here's this little gem 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:14.520 from MSNBC or ms NOW or whatever they're calling it. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.560 It's former White House spokes with Jen Stocky, and she's 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:21.560 seen here trying to former Army Judge Advocate General Mark 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.480 Kushner about what might happen to anyone who tries to 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:31.600 prosecute the seditions six four Well, Sedian, what do. 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.000 You think as a lawyer, what do you think the 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:38.480 consequences should be for people who are abiding by following 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.520 these steps from the commander in chief when they seem 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.439 to be complete overreaches of power. 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:48.200 They're they're following unlawful commands from Donald Trump. And if 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:52.240 you're committing offenses and your defense is going to be 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.240 I was just following orders. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:54.480 You know. 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.040 That didn't work out so well at Nuremberg. 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.320 Nuremberg, get it. Trump and his Ilk Guard just like 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.960 you know, you know who with the funny mustache and 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.840 his cronies, and well it didn't work out too well 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.800 for them. Oh, by the way, speaking of Jensaki, remember 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:15.200 before when I was talking about the Afghan fellow with 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.600 ties to the CIA who was alleged to have shot 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.960 those National Guards members. Well, here she was, back when 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.199 she was Joe Biden's chief flack, assuring us that everyone 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:29.960 who was brought into the US from Afghanistan after the 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.360 debacle of the Fall of Kabul was properly vetted. 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.959 I can absolutely assure you that no one is coming 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.719 into the United States of America who has not been 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.439 through a thorough screening and background check process. 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:52.880 Sure, Jen, I believe you millions wouldn't. All right, now, 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.240 let's bring in my first guest, former White House Chief 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.840 of Staff and Senior advisor Bandai Partners Mick mulvaney and 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.720 a very happy set Thanksgiving. Welcome to the show, Mick, 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.719 Thanks so much for coming on tonight. Now I want 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.800 to talk first of all about this terrible shooting in DC. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.880 I spoke about this in my editorial, but what an 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:15.200 absolute horror on what was in America the day before Thanksgiving. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:19.840 What more do we know about this shooting and particularly 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.000 the alleged shooter. 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:23.160 James Happy Things. 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:24.559 I mean, it's great to see you back, great to 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.520 have you back on the show. It's not good news 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.079 at all. It turns out, apparently, what we think we've 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:32.800 learned now in the last twenty four hours is that 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.680 this is a person who not only served with the 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.160 United States in Afghanistan, was brought here under a program 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:44.199 to encourage people that had helped us in Afghanistan avoid 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.520 essentially death in Afghanistan after we left there. 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:48.800 So you would. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.480 Expect this was the sort of person that we thought 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.920 we wanted in the country. This is the sort of 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:55.680 person that a lot of people went to bat for 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.040 to try and make sure that we didn't leave them 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.360 behind as well when we left Afghanistan. So I don't 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.959 know if there's mental health and issues here. I assume 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:08.440 there probably are, but it's really sort of it's shaking 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.319 the country to its core here at the Thanksgiving holiday 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.640 that somebody that we thought was one of our friends 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.200 turns out to turn turn his weapon on the armed 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.200 forces of the United States. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.960 Yeah, and you know, one of the things big that 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.720 I've found really disturbing about this, And again, we don't 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.920 know what the motives are yet. There hasn't been any 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.640 release of a manifesto or report about you know, what 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.560 he's been browsing online or anything like that. But what 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:34.600 we do know is that we're in a climate right 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.080 now in the United States where the National Guard has 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.080 been repeatedly demonized, and I've played a number of clips 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.720 of very senior Democrats talking about, you know, what the 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.360 National Guard is doing in American cities. It seems like 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:52.160 whatever motivated this, there is a broader issue here where 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.040 the left is kind of playing with fire in terms 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:59.200 of demonizing people who are serving the country and following 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:00.680 the orders of Donald Trump. 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.520 There are James and of course, I think we get 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:05.960 a chance to talk about the video that many of 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.280 the lawmakers put out this week about you know, violating 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:13.160 or not following illegal orders, which has really caused a 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:13.800 great deal. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:14.600 Of concern here. 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.840 But again, you would think that of all the people 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.960 that would be immune to that type of brainwashing, that 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.000 type of messaging, that type of incitement, would be the 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.840 people who were either with or near, you know, the 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.160 armed forces to begin with, and that's what this guy was. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.600 I mean, he worked with our armed forces. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.600 So again, you're right, there's still a lot we're going 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.920 to find out, but none of it's going to be good. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.560 It's going to have an absolutely chilling effect on legal 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.720 immigration in this country because this guy did come here legally, 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.520 there's no question about that. I believe there's some reporting 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.320 out now, Again it's very early on that it was 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:55.760 the Trump administration that approved his continued time in the country. 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.840 That could turn out to be somewhat accurate. I don't 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.640 know yet. Again, we're specula but none of it's good, 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.120 James Naso at all. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.920 And you know, you mentioned that video here, and I'm 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:07.720 glad you mentioned it because I've talked about this at 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:09.680 the start of the program. Let me just play again 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.960 a little bit more of this video. And people are 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.320 calling this, these people the seditious six, But let's go 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.560 back and have just another little look again at some 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:19.960 of what that video had to say. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.520 Our laws are clear, you can refuse illegal orders. 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:26.840 You can refuse illegal orders. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:32.000 Now again this idea where you have prominent democrats and 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:36.480 prominent former intelligence officials, which I think is interesting. Here 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:40.560 again saying you can refuse illegal orders. Not an order 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.160 that's come down that they're referring specifically to, but that 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.040 they seem to be trying to separate the chain of 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:51.080 command here. What do you think should happen to these people? 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.800 Because I know Trump wants the FBI investigating them. I 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.240 know Mark Kelly could be in some trouble here. What 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.200 do you think I. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.480 Think investigation is appropriate. I'll be clear, I don't think 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.240 the president. I thought the president's call. 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.600 To have these people hanged for treason right away it 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.800 was over the top and it doesn't help the debate. Okay, 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:09.639 but these people this is wrong. 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:10.520 This is absolute wrong. 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.600 Keep in mind, let's start from the very basic premise, 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:14.720 and I do a little bit of work with the 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:16.360 cadets at the West Point Academy. 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:17.640 They all know this. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.240 This is not news going on TV or the internet 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:22.679 and saying, oh, by the way, you don't have to 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:27.200 follow illegal orders. Every member, every officer knows that that 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.760 has literally beaten into them during their training. So this 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.800 was not educational in any way, shape or form. This 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.440 was to try and undermine the president. And I think 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:40.440 it's noteworthy, James that when a couple of the folks 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.320 who have made this video have gone out to do 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.400 press to follow up, they've been asked a fairly straightforward question, 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.680 which is, okay, you say that they don't these folks 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.199 don't have to follow illegal orders? What illegal orders has 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.680 Donald Trump given? And not a single one of them 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.560 has a single example, because as far as we. 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.880 Can tell, there haven't been any. So the only reason to. 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.880 Do this would be to undermine the president ns as 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.320 the commander in chief. I don't know what other explanation 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.159 there is for this, because it can't be educational and 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:10.200 it certainly doesn't speak to a specific example. So again, 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.760 it's an example of what's wrong in this country. Mark 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.600 Kelly's in a different place than the other elected officials 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.160 because even though he is a member of the Senate, 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.280 he's also from a member of the military and subject 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:21.160 to be recalled. 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.440 Under reserve duty and so forth, so would be follow 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:24.959 under different rules. 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.159 But I hope there is a full investigation this is 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:28.399 wrong and it needs to stop. 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.439 I agree completely, and I worry that this is going 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.240 to lead down some very sinister avenues if it is 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.159 not checked right now. But Mick also just want to 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.080 ask some other things going on right now. And this 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.800 story has I think floated by a lot of people here. 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.560 But there's a by election going to happen, a special 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:49.960 election in Tennessee District seven next month, in a district 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.080 that President Trump comfortably won by twenty two points last year. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.160 But now there's been some reason polling and they are 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.560 worried that they could lose this seat and see their 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:03.680 House major slip two Well, essentially nothing. And this comes 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:07.480 off of the back of Marjorie Taylor Green's resignation as well. 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.760 Are there some concerns here around the back bench of 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.199 the Republicans, particularly about you know, a their majority, But 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.320 b also I've heard some worries about their treatment by 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:17.920 the White House. 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.720 What have you been hearing, Nick, Yeah, a lot of that. 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:23.359 James is going to a couple different pieces of it. 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.119 Keep in mind, every party that underperforms in a special 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.879 election or a by election always says, well, they're special 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.040 elections for a reason. They don't follow the ordinary trends, 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:34.120 et cetera, et cetera. But that's just what they say 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.520 for the television cameras. The Republicans are worried to death 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.720 about this. Even if they win this election in a 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.440 squeaker they win by five points or less, that will 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.240 send shockwaves through the Republican Party because that is a really, 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.960 really bad sign. It comes on the heels of US 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:53.160 Republicans underperforming three weeks ago in the off year elections 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:58.880 in New Jersey and Virginia. So yeah, there is dissatisfaction 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.320 within the Republican ranks. Are worried about getting wiped out 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.240 in the midterms, and they are even to your point, 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:08.480 talking about some of them leaving early to deny Mike Johnson. 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.520 The speakership and give it to the Democrats. 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.520 Now under the theory number one, it's inevitable that midterms 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.919 anyway they think, and number two is a punishment for 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:19.560 mistreatment by the leadership of the House and by the 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:20.160 White House. 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:24.000 That's a tough place to be. Listen. I've been a 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:24.720 member of the House. 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.000 I wasn't a member of the House during the Republican administration, 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:30.600 but I know members of the Democrat Party who felt 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.320 like they were taken taken for granted by the Obama leadership. 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.080 And it's an unhappy place to be, especially when you 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:39.399 think you're going into the minority. There's nothing worse than 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.840 being in the minority in the United States House representatives. 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.000 You basically don't count for anything when it comes to 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.440 voting and so forth. So yeah, it's an unhappy time 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.520 right now, James. With the Republican Party. There's still plenty 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:51.800 of time to turn things around. And of course a 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.840 lot of President Trump's policies haven't sort of sunk in yet. 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:56.119 A lot of things that one big. 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.480 Beautiful bill having kicked in deregulation has it kicked in, 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.000 So there's still time. But I got to tell you 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.679 that it's not a very happy Thanksgiving for a lot 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:04.720 of Republicans right now. 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.080 Yeah, no, it doesn't sound like it sounds a bit 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.680 of a worry with what really effectively nine or ten 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:13.440 months of actual real work until the midterms. Hey, you 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.199 mentioned it, says giving and Mick, before I let you 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:18.520 get back to your table pulling every guest tonight, what's 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.080 your favorite Thanksgiving side dish? And do you agree with 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:23.920 me that cranberry sauce is better out of a can. 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.600 Yeah, James, I'm gonna disagree with you because I don't 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:28.440 like cranberry sauce. 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:30.880 I never do my dad. I don't like it one 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:31.480 way or the other. 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:33.000 Now if I had, if you put a gun to 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:34.360