WEBVTT - The U.S. Report | 29 August

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<v Speaker 1>This is the US Report with James Morrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening and welcome to the program. Here's what's coming

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<v Speaker 2>up tonight. Big trouble for John Bolton as the investigation

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<v Speaker 2>into whether he shared his stash get It of classified

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence with foreign actors heats up. Plus cracker barrel cracks

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<v Speaker 2>a win for common sense. I'll have more on that later.

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<v Speaker 2>And who's the more popular president, Donald Trump or Barack Obama?

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<v Speaker 1>The answer might surprise you. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to talk about that horrific shooting in Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>this week, and the media is covering up of some

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<v Speaker 2>of the story's most disturbing aspects, all because the facts

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<v Speaker 2>didn't suit their narrative in a moment. But first we

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<v Speaker 2>need to talk about the Australian American alliance forged by

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<v Speaker 2>John Curtin and the fires of war in the Pacific,

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<v Speaker 2>cemented by Menzies and now being undone by Anthony Albinizi.

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<v Speaker 2>Once upon a time, the idea of bad diplomatic blood

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<v Speaker 2>between America and Australia was such a ludicrous idea that

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<v Speaker 2>it became a foil for comedy.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, Bart, your little escapade could not have come at

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<v Speaker 3>a worse time. America Australianian relations or at an all

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<v Speaker 3>time low.

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<v Speaker 2>But now no longer for what are largely domestic political reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Picking up on polling showing that Donald Trump is on

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<v Speaker 2>the nose with a lot of Australians, particularly labor voters,

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister Anthony ALBINIZI has seen fit to suggest a

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<v Speaker 2>realignment of our foreign policy, breaking away from the US

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<v Speaker 2>in the name of national sovereignty, while following the lead

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<v Speaker 2>of Europe on issues like Palestinian recognition, and at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time cozying up to China, where the PM spent

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<v Speaker 2>six whole days recently. Now, all of this has led

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<v Speaker 2>to the bizarre what was the point of that trip

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<v Speaker 2>made by Defense Minister Richard Marls to Washington this week?

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<v Speaker 2>On Wednesday, Marls posted happy snaps of himself and Ambassador

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Rudd meeting with a somewhat amused Vice President JD

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<v Speaker 2>Vance and American Defense Secretary Pete Hegsath. Marls or Marls's

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<v Speaker 2>office tweeted quote, the alliance between Australia and the United

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<v Speaker 2>States long standing, built on our shared history of deep collaboration.

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<v Speaker 2>I was pleased to have the opportunity to reaffirm Australia's

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<v Speaker 2>commitment to building on this partnership with US Vice President

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<v Speaker 2>Jada Vance and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseath in.

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<v Speaker 1>Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>Today. Well, it seemed like things were all coming together.

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<v Speaker 2>And Marls, who is a member of Labour's right and

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<v Speaker 2>who I think to be fair, generally gets it on

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<v Speaker 2>security issues, unlike some of the absolutely undergraduate bomb throwers.

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<v Speaker 2>He shares a cabinet room with. Well, I think Marls

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<v Speaker 2>was starting to think that he could patch things up.

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<v Speaker 2>But then there was this headline Pentagon denies Richard Marles

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<v Speaker 2>had a meeting with Pete Hegseth, and that was attached

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<v Speaker 2>to an article which described what happened between the two

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<v Speaker 2>men as a quote happenstance encounter.

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA, what's going on here? What was the part of

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<v Speaker 1>the trip?

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<v Speaker 2>Then if Marls was presumably I don't know, what's it

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do, get a day pass to the Executive Office

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<v Speaker 2>building of the White House and wander around and hope

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<v Speaker 2>to run in some big shots, then the Pentagon put

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<v Speaker 2>out another statement. And here I feel like this might

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<v Speaker 2>have been a little good will gesture on the part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Americans to help the Aussies save face. They

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<v Speaker 2>said that Secretary Hegseth welcomed the opportunity to meet with

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<v Speaker 2>Marles and that meeting had been planned in advance. Yet

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<v Speaker 2>now the latest version of the story has come out

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<v Speaker 2>this is actually a secret mission to meet not with

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<v Speaker 2>Hegseth but jd Vance in advance of a potential Trump

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<v Speaker 2>Albanezi meeting. But amazingly, the Australian has reported that despite

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<v Speaker 2>the new story that this was all about meeting jd Vance,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have to ask why would there be secrecy

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<v Speaker 2>around that. In fact, no meeting had been set between

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<v Speaker 2>Marls and Pete Hegseth. According to the Australian quote, while

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<v Speaker 2>the Washington trip was promoted by mister Marris prior to

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<v Speaker 2>his departure of Washington as another opportunity to discuss shared

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<v Speaker 2>defense and security matters with mister Henseth, no meeting had

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<v Speaker 2>been locked in with the US's Defense secretary by the

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<v Speaker 2>time he touched down. Seriously, this is frankly very weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, these sorts of trips are generally very tightly planned,

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<v Speaker 2>and the notion that our Defense Minister's office hadn't locked

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<v Speaker 2>something in with Hegseeth even while he was still in

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<v Speaker 2>the air.

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<v Speaker 1>And while Marls.

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<v Speaker 2>Reportedly said he'd increase Australian defense spending, well, there are

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of others I'd love to see raised here, like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, free speech.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if.

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<v Speaker 2>Jd Vance knows about our e safety commiss news antics. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian American Alliance is long standing and vitally important.

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<v Speaker 2>But frankly, this government, this labor government, has for very

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<v Speaker 2>cynical and political reasons, decided to throw shade on it

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<v Speaker 2>while pivoting, as I say, not just to Europe but

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<v Speaker 2>also to China. It's a bad look, it's dangerous, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope Marls has the ability to put.

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<v Speaker 1>A stop to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now onto that horrific story out of Minnesota this week

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<v Speaker 2>of the shooting out of Minneapolis Catholic church where students

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<v Speaker 2>at a back to school mass at the Annunciation Catholic School,

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<v Speaker 2>where at least two children have died and seventeen more

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<v Speaker 2>were injured. Now, frankly, it's really too horrible to contemplate here,

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<v Speaker 2>but we have to talk about it because this story,

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<v Speaker 2>this tragedy, has sadly become political.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>This individual, Robins has been identified as the shooter. But

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<v Speaker 2>because Robin identified as trans and posted a long, violent

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<v Speaker 2>manifesto about his transgenderism and regrets and hatred of Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and Israel and the Jews and the Catholic Church

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<v Speaker 2>and a billion other things, well, that's created a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a problem for the media. This American ABC report

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<v Speaker 2>was typical.

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<v Speaker 3>We've also been going through it and can tell you

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<v Speaker 3>there are crude diagrams of the church. There are also

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<v Speaker 3>photos of the weapons, and they include all sorts of writings,

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<v Speaker 3>the names of past mass shooters, criticism of Israel, the

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<v Speaker 3>name of President Trump written on the guns. There are

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<v Speaker 3>also racial slurs.

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<v Speaker 2>The name of President Trump, racial slurs. You can see

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<v Speaker 2>what they're doing here. They're trying to suggest maybe Westman

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<v Speaker 2>was some sort of alt right white supremacist megafan. But

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<v Speaker 2>what did the ABC leave out? Westmin had written the

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<v Speaker 2>words kill Donald Trump on his gun.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I kind of think that's important, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for context. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The New York Times, of course, was just as bad.

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<v Speaker 2>They wrote quote On social media. Some conservative activists have

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<v Speaker 2>seized on the shooter's gender identity to portray transgender people

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<v Speaker 2>as violent or mentally ill. The right wing uproar over

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<v Speaker 2>ms Westman's gender identity echoed the politicized reaction to a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three mass shooting at the Covenant School in Nashville,

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<v Speaker 2>which was carried out by a former student who the

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<v Speaker 2>police and was transgender. In a news conference, Mayor Jacob

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<v Speaker 2>Fry of Minneapolis, a Democrat, urged the public to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>scapegoating transgender people unquote. So you see what they did there.

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<v Speaker 2>They did the right thing at the start by clearing

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<v Speaker 2>up confusion about Westman's gender identity. But the paper, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so afraid of the conclusions its readers might draw that

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<v Speaker 2>it surrounded the report with layer after layer of messaging.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, you know, if you paid the attention to

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<v Speaker 2>the gender issue, they're saying, well, don't do that, because

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<v Speaker 2>if you do that, your right wing and a conservative activist.

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<v Speaker 2>And they also reminded you that Jacob Frey a Democrat,

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<v Speaker 2>so pay attention. Urged against scapegoating all this while insisting

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<v Speaker 2>others politicized the shooting. Well, no, sorry, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to let that slide. But it wasn't just the media.

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<v Speaker 2>Local democrats and officials were also in on the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the local police chief Brian O'Hara.

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot. I have no information to share on a

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<v Speaker 4>motive other than saying again that there was some sort

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<v Speaker 4>of manifesto that was time to come out on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been taken down and our investigators are going through

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<v Speaker 4>that to try and develop a motive from that.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the old We may never know the motive routine.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it looked pretty clear to me, but hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what do I know. Minnesota Center Aby clubash Are was

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<v Speaker 2>just as bad.

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<v Speaker 4>These kids did extraordinary things, but they never should have

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<v Speaker 4>been put in that position in the first place.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a madman.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an all.

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<v Speaker 2>Purpose hater, by the way, hated groups left.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you name it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way to pin an ideology on this all

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<v Speaker 2>purpose hater. Nothing to see here, no politics involved. And

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor Jacob Fray, as the time suggested, well here he is.

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<v Speaker 5>I have heard about a whole lot of hate that's

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<v Speaker 5>being directed at our trans community. Anybody who was using

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<v Speaker 5>this as an using this as an opportunity to villainize

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<v Speaker 5>our trans community.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, this is a picture of Fray five

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, carefully kneeling at the golden coffin of George

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<v Speaker 2>Floyd but I think that tells you something about where

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<v Speaker 2>he's coming from. Now, look, on one level, phrase right,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody should demonize trans people over this, But frankly, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not what this is all about. What we are seeing

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<v Speaker 2>here is a typical all two typical media cover up.

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<v Speaker 2>If this had been a right wing shooter, we'd have

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<v Speaker 2>heard no end about the motivations. We'd be hearing about

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<v Speaker 2>this for weeks and months. But here the story is

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<v Speaker 2>more difficult and complex for them because it goes against

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<v Speaker 2>media pieties that have far from treating transgender people as

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<v Speaker 2>people just like everybody else, something I reckon most people

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<v Speaker 2>wherever they are want well. Instead, the media sanctified them

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<v Speaker 2>and said, well, you can't talk about things like mental

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<v Speaker 2>illness because that's not inclusive or whatever, and this story

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<v Speaker 2>might give them pause as well. The New York Post,

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<v Speaker 2>which unlike The Times does not try to smother inconvenient facts,

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<v Speaker 2>has reported that Westin was quote tired of being trans unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the newspaper, Westmin's manifesto included this, I only

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<v Speaker 2>keep the long hair because it is pretty much my

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<v Speaker 2>last thread of being trans. I am tired of being trans.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I never brainwashed myself. He wrote, Well, there

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<v Speaker 2>you go. But that's a very inconvenient fact for the media,

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<v Speaker 2>which never wants to link mental illness and transgenderism or

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<v Speaker 2>brainwashing at all. And it's not Republicans or people pointing

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<v Speaker 2>out the facts here who are politicizing this.

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<v Speaker 1>This has to be said here. No, the politicization of.

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<v Speaker 2>This horrific crime, this horrific tragedy is coming from those

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats and media outlets who are twisting the facts here

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<v Speaker 2>to cover for their own agenda, and that, in my view,

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<v Speaker 2>is disgraceful. All right, let's rip into it now. Joining

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<v Speaker 2>me now is former White House press sector you know

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<v Speaker 2>him well, Sewn Spicer. Shawn, thanks for joining me on

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<v Speaker 2>the US report. Huge news broken in the last day

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<v Speaker 2>or so involving President Trump's former National security advisor John Bolton.

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<v Speaker 2>Now The New York Times revealed that during his work

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<v Speaker 2>in the White House, Bolton allegedly sent sensitive information, including

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<v Speaker 2>emails to quote people close to him on an unclassified system.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of this wound up overseas, and this investigation apparently

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<v Speaker 2>started during the Biden administration, putting the lie to claims

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<v Speaker 2>that this is just retribution. Sean, what do you make

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<v Speaker 2>of this. Is there some trouble coming here for John Bolton?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, most importantly, I think what you said towards the

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<v Speaker 6>end was the thing that I got a kick out of,

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<v Speaker 6>for all these people who are claiming that this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is somehow retribution.

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<v Speaker 6>The New York Times very at the top of their

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<v Speaker 6>story noted that this all started under Biden, that they

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<v Speaker 6>their intelligence agencies run by his folks, were noting where

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<v Speaker 6>this information was heading up in foreign governments that aren't

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<v Speaker 6>exactly friends of ours in the United States. I obviously

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<v Speaker 6>think it's concerning that that information is out there. And

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<v Speaker 6>the bigger thing James said I get a kick out

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<v Speaker 6>of are all these people who, when President Trump's house

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<v Speaker 6>was rated, jumped to conclusions saying that he should go

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<v Speaker 6>to jail and he should be prosecuted, and when Bolton's

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<v Speaker 6>house got raided, called it retribution. So it is funny

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<v Speaker 6>watching how the same thing done. Although obviously President Trump's

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<v Speaker 6>in a very different situation. The president has classification authority

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<v Speaker 6>and believe that he had the right to those documents.

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<v Speaker 6>There's no scenario in which John Bolton is a classifying authority,

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<v Speaker 6>so it would be a completely different scenario, and for

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<v Speaker 6>all of the pontification and grand standing that was done.

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<v Speaker 6>Well there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it is interesting to me, though, Sean, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've spoken before when the President's house had been rated

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<v Speaker 2>about and when Joe Biden had been accused of keeping

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<v Speaker 2>classified information as well. You know, ordinary citizens with security

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<v Speaker 2>clearances have gone and done serious jail time for so

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<v Speaker 2>much as you know, bringing some material back to a

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<v Speaker 2>hotel room to work on it. It does seem like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's a bit of a double standard here,

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<v Speaker 2>of course.

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<v Speaker 6>Well again, I mean, look, I've had a security CLINICCE

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<v Speaker 6>for going on twenty six years right now, so I'm

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<v Speaker 6>very familiar with the handling of it, the yearly updates

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<v Speaker 6>on handling sensitivities. But I will say that there is

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<v Speaker 6>a uniqueness because, as I noted a moment ago, Jim said,

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<v Speaker 6>the classification authority matters. So there are certain people the

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<v Speaker 6>Secretary of Defense, the President of the United States, I believe,

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<v Speaker 6>the Secretary of State obviously, the CIA director, the Director

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<v Speaker 6>of National Intelligence who have what they call classification authority.

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<v Speaker 6>The President of course in a very different category because

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<v Speaker 6>he is the ultimate arbiter of all of that. But

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<v Speaker 6>in a case like John Bolton or Vice President Biden

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<v Speaker 6>or then Senator Biden or Hillary Clinton.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he didn't have that right, So that's where this is.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I know everybody who's an armshair quarterback likes

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<v Speaker 6>to try to make it all seem the same. But

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<v Speaker 6>there is some important distinctions in these cases that's worthy

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<v Speaker 6>of noting. But again, I just get a kick out

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<v Speaker 6>of for all of the criticism that John Bolton specifically

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<v Speaker 6>has made of President Trump, how he's handled himself, it

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<v Speaker 6>looks like he was a bit sloppy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I want to ask you now about another story

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<v Speaker 2>here and explain this to me, because I'm a little confused.

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<v Speaker 2>The President is facing backlash for saying earlier in the

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<v Speaker 2>week that the US will allow in six hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese students.

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<v Speaker 1>Have listened to this. I hear so many stories about

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to allow their students. So we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to allow their students to come, and we're going.

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<v Speaker 2>To allow It's very important, six hundred thousand students, it's

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<v Speaker 2>very important. I'm a little confused about this because it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like, you know, you're closing one border on the

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<v Speaker 2>one hand down south and then you're letting in all

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<v Speaker 2>these Chinese students where let's be Franks that there have

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<v Speaker 2>been some national security implications and spying and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other things that have happened here.

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<v Speaker 1>Why this change of heart?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so I'm one of these people that's not exactly

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<v Speaker 6>fired up about this. I do believe that China is

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<v Speaker 6>our enemy that we shouldn't be doing stuff, but I

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<v Speaker 6>understand what President Trump's trying to do. And just to

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<v Speaker 6>be clear that the comment you made about the southern border,

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<v Speaker 6>the issue is whether or not people are coming into

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<v Speaker 6>our country, whether it's students or tourus or temporary workers,

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<v Speaker 6>legally right and through the processes. And these students, again,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't like where they're from, but the bottom line

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<v Speaker 6>is they are going through legal process. I also don't

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<v Speaker 6>like the fact that, you know, part of the explanation

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<v Speaker 6>is that they pay full fare. So if you're a

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<v Speaker 6>university like Harvard, you love the fact that whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 6>twenty percent is coming from there because they pay the

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<v Speaker 6>full tuition. They're not looking for financial aid or you know,

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<v Speaker 6>work programs to get true. But at the end of

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<v Speaker 6>the day, I believe China is the existential threat not

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<v Speaker 6>just to America but in the entire world right now.

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<v Speaker 6>I get what the President's trying to do, though, and

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<v Speaker 6>this is where again, the same thing's going on on

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of other issues with trade, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is they're trying to strike.

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<v Speaker 6>A deal overall, a big picture financial deal with China.

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<v Speaker 6>So you can't punch him in the face at one

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<v Speaker 6>time and then say, hey, can we make a deal

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<v Speaker 6>with you. On the other hand, I get that he

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<v Speaker 6>trumps a business guy, and at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 6>he understands the nuances of trying to put together a

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<v Speaker 6>big deal. And in the case right now, they are

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<v Speaker 6>trying to really reset the balance of the economics between

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<v Speaker 6>our two countries, the trade and balance that exists, the

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<v Speaker 6>fact that manufacturing over in China is taking away a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of US jobs, intellectual property issues, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get it.

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<v Speaker 6>From a deal making standpoint, he doesn't want to be

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<v Speaker 6>slapping their wrists on one hand and then opening the

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<v Speaker 6>door on the other for potential trade stuff. But this

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<v Speaker 6>is not to me the idea of bringing up with

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<v Speaker 6>a bunch of people from China to learn all about us,

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<v Speaker 6>our system, what's going on, to infiltrate our universities, bring

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<v Speaker 6>it home. It's not like they're staying in America and

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<v Speaker 6>building a great company or whatever. They're going back to

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<v Speaker 6>a country that's our sworn enemy. So they're almost learning

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<v Speaker 6>about how to take us on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I wean't to talk to you about the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>now because after this week's DNC summer meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, have a look here. I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>Here how former Democratic advisor dead turn time. He summed

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<v Speaker 2>up what I reckon perfectly are the issues the party

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<v Speaker 2>has today.

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<v Speaker 7>Hew, hell does it do this as a Democrat. It's

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<v Speaker 7>maddening that we're still not serious, like you said it.

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<v Speaker 7>We haven't lost four and a half million voters, nor

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<v Speaker 7>is our brand at a historic low because we don't

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<v Speaker 7>fight hard enough. It's because we remain completely culturally disconnected

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<v Speaker 7>and we have absolutely no agenda. You said earlier in

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<v Speaker 7>your monologue, Trump's trying to solve problems. We always offered

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<v Speaker 7>the three p's, the personal attacks, which you just heard.

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<v Speaker 7>He's a dick and authoritative. We argue process, Oh, we

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<v Speaker 7>shouldn't do this. He's violating customs and norms. Or it's

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<v Speaker 7>the press, right, it's their job to do it, and

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<v Speaker 7>then on the cultural issues, we literally have think tanks

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<v Speaker 7>putting memos out that you know, these are the words

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<v Speaker 7>you're not supposed to say. You add it all up

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<v Speaker 7>and we're not in good shape.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean a Democrat who gets it. But do you think

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<v Speaker 2>they'll take his advice?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, Dan is my co host on The Morning Meeting,

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<v Speaker 6>which is on my YouTube channel. We take it live.

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<v Speaker 1>You're free to jump on.

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<v Speaker 6>We take questions from anywhere in the world every morning,

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<v Speaker 6>nine am Eastern Time, and he brings a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>common sense. They should be listening to Dan more often.

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<v Speaker 6>He was Hillary Clinton's top fundraiser. He knows what he's

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<v Speaker 6>talking about. But he's absolutely right. I mean, look, here's

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<v Speaker 6>the problem. Fundamentally, they have a messaging issue and a

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<v Speaker 6>mechanics issue. The messaging issue is what Dan just highlighted.

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<v Speaker 6>They're talking about stuff. They're denying there's an immigration problem

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<v Speaker 6>at our border. They're denying that there's crime in major cities,

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<v Speaker 6>which just no, he believes. And then they're taking on

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<v Speaker 6>stupid cultural wars and fighting for the lowest common denominator.

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<v Speaker 6>But then they've also got a big mechanics issue. And

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<v Speaker 6>this is the other dirty little secret The DNC, as

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<v Speaker 6>of the last report, had thirteen million dollars cash on hand.

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<v Speaker 6>The RNC and other Trump related super PACs had three

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<v Speaker 6>hundred million. Their party chairman, Ken Martin, you referenced this

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<v Speaker 6>summer meeting they had just literally had to withdraw a resolution.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's the equivalent of like a student council resolution.

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<v Speaker 6>It means nothing. He can't even get a resolution passed

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<v Speaker 6>through his own committee. And I mean so they an

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<v Speaker 6>utter disaster right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan'sright.

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<v Speaker 6>They're putting out memos about what words to use, but

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<v Speaker 6>they are flailing as a party. And when you have

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<v Speaker 6>both things going in the wrong directions, the message and

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<v Speaker 6>the mechanics, you're in big trouble heading into a midterm.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Spicer right away, we go, oh.

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<v Speaker 6>By the way, sorry, poor thing in every state in

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<v Speaker 6>America that tracks voter registration by party, every single one

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<v Speaker 6>of them, they went in the wrong direction. That's that

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<v Speaker 6>is a big problem.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a big, big problem. And we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it again soon, I hope. But I might

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<v Speaker 2>even join you on that morning briefing sometimes. Shawn Spices,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks so much to check out the Shawn Spicer Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining me you Bett. Okay, Now, let's bring

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<v Speaker 2>it a new guest here. We've not had him before

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<v Speaker 2>on the program, but he is the host of the Politics, Politics,

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<v Speaker 2>Politics podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Young joins me here on the EU Westport Justin,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the program. Thanks for joining me. And I

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<v Speaker 2>want to start out tonight by talking about the sad story,

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<v Speaker 2>this devastating story out of Minneapolis week this week, which

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<v Speaker 2>saw two children killed, seventeen people injured in horrific scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I spoke about this earlier in the show, how

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<v Speaker 2>the media has really skewed its reporting on the shooter,

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Westman, trying to obscure I think the transgender angle

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<v Speaker 2>to this and the mental illness connection to that. What

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<v Speaker 2>have you made of the way this horrible story has

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<v Speaker 2>been covered.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I think the biggest thing that I've noticed

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<v Speaker 8>is that both the media and even Democratic politicians, who

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<v Speaker 8>are very very careful with their language, have actually been

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<v Speaker 8>referring to the shooter as a hymn, which is something

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<v Speaker 8>that I don't think that they would have done a

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<v Speaker 8>few years ago. They have referred to Robert and not Robin,

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<v Speaker 8>which was the name that he was going by right

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<v Speaker 8>up until this attack, but in general, there is an

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<v Speaker 8>uncomfortable silence that happens oftentimes with stories like this, where

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<v Speaker 8>if there is not hay to be made politically about

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<v Speaker 8>a shooter's motivations, then it just kind of gets memory hold,

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<v Speaker 8>which is one of the uglier elements of American politics

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<v Speaker 8>in general in my opinion, especially when you have something

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<v Speaker 8>that you know, the destruction of life this young it's

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<v Speaker 8>really ugly when political points are made on top of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and that's the thing that really because I

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<v Speaker 2>played a clip earlier where the American ABC they said, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the shooter had Donald Trump's name written on, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his guns, but it said killed Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like, had.

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<v Speaker 2>This person been you know, an explicitly right wing person,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, committing some right wing kind of hate crime,

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<v Speaker 2>we would hear so much more about this, and this

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<v Speaker 2>story would kick off, you know what, do we call it?

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<v Speaker 2>A national conversation that would run for weeks, if not months.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's really where I think I would hope that

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<v Speaker 8>if there is a world where the media gets better,

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<v Speaker 8>that we can agree killers like this very very rarely,

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<v Speaker 8>if ever, have opinions that match upon the mainstream of

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<v Speaker 8>political thought. They're usually disturbed in some bizarre way that

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<v Speaker 8>really takes them out of what we would understand of

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<v Speaker 8>even the left right spectrum of modern mainstream thought. And

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<v Speaker 8>what I think it is better is if we just

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<v Speaker 8>leave all of that out of there and understand that

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<v Speaker 8>these are seriously deranged people. And this is a mental

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<v Speaker 8>illness question first and foremost.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, justin one of the interesting things here

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<v Speaker 2>which you've sort of touched on, which brings me to

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<v Speaker 2>my next topic. Here is this the away the left

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<v Speaker 2>manipulates language and everybody manipulates language.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've now had a.

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<v Speaker 2>Story this week that Columbia Law School has had a

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<v Speaker 2>consultant come in and tell students not to use terms like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, grandfathering or crazy uncle. Meanwhile, you've got the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat Party. They've given Democrats a whole list of terms

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<v Speaker 2>they shouldn't use, including privileged violence, dialogue, triggering, triggering, microaggression,

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<v Speaker 2>holding space, body shaming, subverting norms, and all sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>other things. Tell me, why is it that the left

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<v Speaker 2>seems much more concerned about policing language and actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>making people's lives better.

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<v Speaker 8>You actually love to one out there at the DNC

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<v Speaker 8>meeting in Minneapolis this week, there was a presentation to

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<v Speaker 8>show that protecting the peace pulled better than the phrase

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<v Speaker 8>tough on crime, that tough on crime was bad to

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<v Speaker 8>use politically, which I mean, if that person is not

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<v Speaker 8>paid by the Republican Party, they should probably cash a

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<v Speaker 8>check from them for the level of damage that they

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<v Speaker 8>are doing internally to the Democrats. There's a saying here

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<v Speaker 8>in politics in America that you know, there are only

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<v Speaker 8>three guarantees in life, death taxes, and the Democrats believing

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 8>that this can be solved with messaging. For whatever reason,

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 8>the staff of the Democratic Party and the people that

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:41.440
<v Speaker 8>make it up believe that there is nothing that can

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<v Speaker 8>be either done or undone if you just say the

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 8>magic words. And they spend so much time and energy

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<v Speaker 8>not only policing themselves, but as we saw over the

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<v Speaker 8>last ten years, policing others where they had authority to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know, justin I think one of the

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<v Speaker 2>phrases that we use on this showing off a lot

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<v Speaker 2>is nineteen eighty four was a warning.

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<v Speaker 1>Not an instruction manual.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, meanwhile, meanwhile in the real world, here

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<v Speaker 2>the new poll here saying that President Trump has actually

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<v Speaker 2>got a forty five percent approval rating, which runs, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>counter to what a lot of the headlines would say.

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<v Speaker 2>And funnily enough, it turns out that if you actually

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<v Speaker 2>compare President Trump and President Obama at this same time

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.199
<v Speaker 2>in their second terms, you can see that Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>actually out in front. Look, I mean, whether or not

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:30.959
<v Speaker 2>you're a Trump lover or a Trump hater or a

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:34.119
<v Speaker 2>big maga guy, this one seems suggested the president is

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<v Speaker 2>not doing the horrible job that you know you were

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<v Speaker 2>thinking was if you just read the New York Times

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<v Speaker 2>and the Washington Post.

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<v Speaker 8>You know what's interesting is that obviously, internationally, or at

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 8>least whenever I've traveled internationally, there's a very specific lens

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 8>on American politics post Trump. Not to say that they

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 8>were ever particularly friendly to Republicans in the past, but

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 8>with Trump it is kind of ratcheted up to another level.

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<v Speaker 8>In America, he has looked at as more popular. Even

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.400
<v Speaker 8>in the mainstream media. You'll see more stories that he's

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 8>more popular than he was in his first term, which

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<v Speaker 8>is odd because usually in American politics, the president is

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 8>as popular as they're ever going to be in their

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 8>first term and then sink to a lower level in

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.639
<v Speaker 8>their second term. And he saw that with Clinton, with

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 8>Obama and with George W. Bush, surely, but he had

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 8>a war that was weighing him down. With Trump, it's

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<v Speaker 8>kind of the opposite. The longer he's been around, the

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<v Speaker 8>more people in public polling, and I would say even

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 8>in the media lens to a certain extent, have understood

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.479
<v Speaker 8>that he has a very, very not only a special

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 8>connection with his base, but that base in the coalition

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 8>of the Republican Party is growing, and that does have

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.880
<v Speaker 8>to be reckoned with. If you're Donald Trump and you're

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 8>the White House, you look at that number and you say, well,

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 8>they usually undercount us by about three points anyway, So

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 8>really where at forty eight or forty nine will take it?

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<v Speaker 2>Justin, We're gonna have to leave it there. Thank you

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 2>so much. Everybody listened to his Politics, Politics, Politics podcast.

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 2>It's fantastic. Now stick around. We're gonna hit a quick

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 2>break here, but when we return, our favorite form of

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 2>trouble deviser. Christian Witten joins me. But first a quick

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 2>shout out to this Chicago cameraman who undercut Illinois Governor JB.

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Pritzker's claims that he's living rent free in Donald Trump's head,

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 2>and he did this in I think the funniest way possible.

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<v Speaker 9>We're very pleased about the progress that we're making. I

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 9>know that I live rent free in the President's head,

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 9>and I wish he would spend some time in Chicago

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 9>so that he could see what a lovely city we have.

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<v Speaker 10>Governor, call up, what do you do if the National

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<v Speaker 10>Guard is activated and comes here?

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<v Speaker 2>I love those optics, you know what, I think it

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 2>might be the other way around, Governor Christian Witten in

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<v Speaker 2>a tick, welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the program.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what they say, A week is a

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>long time in politics and the culture wars.

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 2>The last time we got together, country theme restaurant Chained

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Cracker Barrel was in a home as a trouble because

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 2>it changed its traditional logo from this to this as

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 2>part of a broader rebrand. Well, people lost their minds

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 2>and the company has relented, saying, hey, we made an

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 2>opsie and the old branding stays.

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Chalking up is a win for the.

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Good guys, even if there are bigger issues to fight about.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think it is hilarious that the same

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 2>lefties who say, oh, what's the big deal. It's just

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 2>a logo. Are so exercised about it? Now the logo's

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:42.959
<v Speaker 2>gone back. Take, for example, Democrat Vermont Cong's ruin Becca Ballant.

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<v Speaker 11>I just have to say, who gives us about the

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 11>cracker barrel logo?

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't impact our safety, our security, or ability to

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<v Speaker 6>provide for our children.

0:29:57.560 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 8>Don't take the bait.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, except though she did take the bait. Anyway, Here's

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 2>hoping other companies get the message that it is never

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 2>too late to change or rather change back. I mean,

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe the good folks at Jaguar could relent on their

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 2>woke rebrand, which is seeing them go broke and go

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 2>back to giving people what they really want. Oh yeah,

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 2>that's the stuff, you know. I always wanted to be

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 2>a Jagman. Well, joining me now is former Trump senior

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 2>advisor Christian Witten. Christian, welcome back to the program. Thanks

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 2>for joining me. And I want to talk to us

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 2>very quickly about this cracker barrel story because it does

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>sound like it's been another win on the commercial culture

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>wars front. And I just spoke about the rebrand, but

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 2>coming on the heels of all that Sidney Sweeney business,

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 2>it does feel like something is changing out there.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your take.

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<v Speaker 10>It is, I think there are instances where corporate boards

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 10>and executives are getting a backbone and up to wokeness. Now,

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 10>it's hard if the CEO herself is the one who's

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 10>generating the wokeness. But you know, I was talking to

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 10>a friend who served in the first Trump administration who's

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 10>saying he is a lawyer for a large corporation saying

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 10>it's actually okay to be a Republican in corporate America now.

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 10>And you know, you see that there's serious financial downside.

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 10>It's not like an established organization called for a boycott. Eventually,

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 10>Donald Trump did say that these people should change their

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 10>logo back. But if you look at this, if you

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 10>look at the bud light controversy, with sending a bud

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 10>light to a man who dressed like a woman and

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 10>having her be part of some promotional something or other

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 10>that's destroyed that brand. There's a real financial consequences to this.

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 10>And the uprising is spontaneous. It just comes from the people.

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 10>It's not you know, organizations calling for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, exactly. Now, I want to go on

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 2>to the great topic of the Australian American alliance. Now

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I spoke about this at the start of the show,

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 2>but I want to ask you about this, whether you've

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 2>been hearing about this mass confusions surrounding our own Australian

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marls, also the Defense Minister, and

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 2>his meeting with JD Vance and Pete Hegseith this week.

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<v Speaker 1>To what degree.

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<v Speaker 2>Christian is Australia on the radar of the Trump administration.

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 2>We've got the aucust deal, but are you getting any

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 2>sense that this relationship is getting frosty as a result

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<v Speaker 2>of some of the labor government Here's actions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a little bit.

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<v Speaker 10>I think it is because you know, Australia's greatest asset

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 10>isn't the percentage of GDP it spends on defense, but

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 10>it's an image of Frankly being a happy warrior. Whether

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 10>that image is correct or not, that's the one Americans

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 10>tend to have, you know, it was the one that's

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 10>commented on one of my videos that you have to

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 10>remember Australia has fought with the States in every war

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 10>since World War Two, including the dumb Ones, which is

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 10>something that Briton can't say. I don't know that's always great,

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 10>but if that image is cultivated. I think that's good,

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 10>not just in the Defense Department, but across the US

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 10>government culture. If, on the other and Australians, because of

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 10>their political leaders, start to look like Karen's from the UK,

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 10>just in the southern hemisphere, then I think that that changes.

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 10>If Australian culture has looked like a bunch of skolds

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 10>because of a left wing government.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 10>As for the trip for the Defense minister, he got

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 10>to meet with the Vice president. That's pretty good. I

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 10>think the relationship is good in that sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, now let's go to Chicago because Italy Governor JB.

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<v Speaker 2>Pritzker potential presidential contender, I might add, so keep an

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 2>eye on that one as well as Chicago Mayor Brandon

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Johnson have both called on the president called off the

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 2>President sending in the National Guard to help the city's

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 2>crime crisis. Now, remarkably, this is what the mayor Brandon

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Johnson said about sending war criminals to jail.

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<v Speaker 12>We cannot incarcerate our way out of violence. We've already

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 12>tried that. If we've ended up with the largest prison

0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 12>population in the world without solving the problem of crime

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 12>and violence. The addiction on jails and incarceration in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>We have moved past that.

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<v Speaker 12>It is racist, it is immoral, it is unholy, and

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.959
<v Speaker 12>it is not the way to drive violence down.

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 2>But I couldn't believe that CNN let this go to

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:20.359
<v Speaker 2>air because apparently some Chicago locals do endorse the move

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 2>from military intervention o.

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Ours reaction was this is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 10>I think that the governor as well as the mayor

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 10>should be on board with it, just so we can

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<v Speaker 10>get a bit more of security in Chicago the way

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:34.439
<v Speaker 10>do we need.

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<v Speaker 3>The crime has dropped since twenty twenty four. Do you

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:38.760
<v Speaker 3>feel like the city feels safer?

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>No, not at all.

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Christian Chicago said, one of the highest murder rates in

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.720
<v Speaker 2>the United States is not the highest. Why would anyone

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 2>be against lowering the crime rate.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's weird, and of course you know they're manipulating

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 10>the figures. And you know, if the mayor doesn't want

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 10>to put people in jail, man, we should just do it.

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 10>Singapore does and kne lower level prisoners and then they

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 10>can go on their way. Just partially joking there. Incarceration

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.720
<v Speaker 10>works great, Police crackdowns work great. It's what rually Rudy

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 10>Giuliani did to make New York safe, to clean it

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 10>up after the seventies and eighties and decades of decay.

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 10>And everyone said, oh, if you cracked down on crime,

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 10>it just moved from one area to another.

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>It just wasn't true.

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:20.879
<v Speaker 10>Actually, if you cracked out on crime, you cracked out

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 10>on crime.

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 13>And that there's one important point here is if Donald

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 13>Trump can prove again what Rudy Giuliani proved in New York,

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 13>if you can remind voters of that, then that's this

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 13>is sort of the last vestige of Democrat power.

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Are these cities.

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 10>There's really no city that's run by a Democrat by

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 10>Republican maybe the exception of Miami. Currently it is a

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 10>Democrat stronghold. And unlike other Democrat constituencies that Trump is

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 10>shipped away at, like Hispanics, black men, you know, virtually

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 10>everyone but Karen's frankly that if he starts to pull

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 10>political support from these Democrat machines in the cities, and

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 10>the Democrats really have nothing left. And just final point, Yeah,

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 10>when you go and talk to actual people in these cities,

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:07.280
<v Speaker 10>not the politicians or the aging white hippies, liberal white hippies,

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 10>but actual citizens who have to deal with crime. They're

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 10>in favor of the crime.

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Hey, before I let you go, we got to talk

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 2>about Gavin Newsom, because everybody's talking about Gavin Newsom now

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:19.319
<v Speaker 2>and Gavin Newsom, well, he's talking about Donald Trump and

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 2>saying that he's made America a laughing stock. Hear him

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 2>at the Pligo Subody in California just a little while ago.

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 14>I've had the privilege of meeting a lot of foreign leaders.

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's the general I'm putting their.

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 14>Laughing behind his back? That did not happen. I'm making

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 14>this clear.

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.280
<v Speaker 8>They're telling there, do not conflate.

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 14>What I just said with the eating I had with

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 14>the Denmark delegation.

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Now it wasn't them.

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 10>Other foreign leaders are.

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 14>I've got dozens and dozens ambassadors now with them.

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 12>What are they saying?

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 14>They're laughing behind his back? He's being played everywhere.

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>It's an embarrassment. I don't know.

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't talk to a lot of world leaders, But

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 2>what do you think are world leaders really laughing behind

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's back?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe some are. I kind of doubt it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's exactly what they said about rond Reagan.

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<v Speaker 10>Know they think this is just a dumb actor who

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 10>reads lines in the staff behind their back. And you know,

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 10>then he in Thatcher and others helped and win the

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<v Speaker 10>Cold War and restored the United States, restored the West,

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<v Speaker 10>and with Trump, maybe some of the Europeans still chuckled

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<v Speaker 10>behind his back. But guess what, Europe is the laughing

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 10>stock now they've proved that they can't that NATO essentially

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<v Speaker 10>is nothing without the United States. They're all in political crisis.

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 10>Vladimir put and Donald Trump. They're going to outlast all

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 10>of the political leaders in Europe. And you know, if

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 10>they're laughing, that's fine, but I doubt it. And I

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 10>don't think Kim John Un or Putin Or's usuen PingER

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<v Speaker 10>laughing the same way they would have if Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 10>had been president, or if Gavin knew some slick Gavin

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 10>with a state that's in fiscal crisis, that's a beautiful

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 10>state with tons of natural resources that people are moving

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 10>out of because of his mismanagement and the highest income

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:55.360
<v Speaker 10>taxes in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great point. I'm glad you brought up bring

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<v Speaker 2>because I remember that too. Anyway, Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Wit for your time. Really appreciated. We'll see you

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<v Speaker 2>again soon here on the US Report. Now, in a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be joined by one of the few conservatives covering Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Toto, to tell us about the new romantic comedy

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 2>made just for the Trump Europe. But speaking of Hollywood

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 2>in California, let's check in again on that Governor Gavin Newsom,

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 2>who's also having an absolutely normal one, all because Trump's

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 2>people keep trolling him by sending him Trump twenty twenty

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 2>eight hats.

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<v Speaker 14>I don't think Donald Trump wants another election. You think

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 14>for a second you want I have two dozen Trump

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 14>twenty twenty eight hats.

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 10>His folks keep sending me, and you think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 10>run again?

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 8>Don't give me.

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<v Speaker 14>You know who spends two hundred million dollars on a

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 14>ballroom at their home and then leaves the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, keep sending those hats. Donald, They're working, Christian Toto.

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<v Speaker 2>After the break, Welcome back to the program. Well, joining

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<v Speaker 2>me now is Hollywood journalist, author, chronicler of celebrity wokeness,

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<v Speaker 2>and creator of the Fantastic Hollywood in Toto website and podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Toto Christian, thanks so much for joining me on

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<v Speaker 2>the US sport And I want to start with a

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 2>great piece you've written this week, highlighting something that I

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 2>had not heard about before, a new romantic comedy film

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 2>titled The Elephant in the Room, set in twenty twenty one,

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 2>which explores what happens if a leftist woman meets a

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<v Speaker 2>maga man and falls in love. Here's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of the trailer.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he a right were?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I only voted for him twice?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you'd look past that as one. So

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>if it's just about sex, who cares? So what do

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 1>you like about Look?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, it's just more.

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<v Speaker 3>Open about it, which is refreshing.

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<v Speaker 11>That is refreshing to you. Tell her you think the

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<v Speaker 11>election was legit.

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<v Speaker 1>She'll eat that up. Christian.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is absolutely fascinating here that Hollywood's actually

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<v Speaker 2>gone there with something that portrays a Trump supporter in

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 2>at least a bit of a sympathetic way, Because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we all know people in their personal lives

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 2>who've had very similar conversations to what we've just seen.

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<v Speaker 1>They're that trailer. Tell us about this.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it's the movie we need right now more than ever.

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 11>But actually that might be the case. It is a

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 11>romantic comedy. It is traditional in a way, but the

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 11>conflict is very of the moment, and like you said,

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<v Speaker 11>so many people have had similar situations in their lives

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<v Speaker 11>where they've got this conflict line. You know, friends they've

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<v Speaker 11>known for years, if not decades, fighting like they never

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 11>fought before. What about a romantic couple who seem to

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:44.879
<v Speaker 11>have a spark and a connection, but they've got this

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 11>thing between them, this political divide. Can they get along?

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.760
<v Speaker 11>Can love really happen? It's a great idea. It's fraught

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<v Speaker 11>with complications for sure, but I found it early charming

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 11>and I thought they did a nice job with the

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 11>balance that was the key issue here. You're not really

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:00.879
<v Speaker 11>citing one way the other. I think there's a real

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 11>sense of both sides of this situation get to say

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 11>there's their piece, and they do it in a very

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 11>intelligent way. It's a shocking film from that perspective alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's pretty shocking. I mean, you know, for Hollywood

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 2>to do that, and we all know the sort of

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 2>the stories about and the polls we've seen where left

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 2>wing people won't date right wing people. Right wing people

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 2>date left wing people. So maybe this will help bridge

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 2>some divides, but it does sound too Christian like. There

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:27.760
<v Speaker 2>are some other divides that are unbridgable. Because veteran Hollywood

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 2>actor Luis Guzman caused a stir after he called Latino

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 2>Americans who voted for Trump ignorant. Now, I guess this

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:38.840
<v Speaker 2>is because the president won a pretty large percentage of

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Latino vote in last year's election.

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 1>What is going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>Because this seems like again a return to the bad

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 2>old days of the hard left Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, you know, I listen, He's a terrific actor. He's

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 11>been doing it for decades, you know, calling an entire

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 11>group of people, a very large group ignorant. I think

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 11>he needs to leave his ideological bubble and actually talk

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<v Speaker 11>to some of the Trump voters who happened to be Latino,

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<v Speaker 11>find out why they voted the way they did, what

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 11>were the issues that were top of mind. I think

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 11>he might get a really interesting education if he did that.

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 11>But just saying that they're ignorant, it feels a little

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 11>bit weak, to say the ear least.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, indeed, hey, speaking of California though, where it all

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 2>comes from. In Hollywood is Governor Kevin Newsom. He is

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:29.800
<v Speaker 2>locked into a battle with one of his predecessors, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Apparently,

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Newsom is reportedly refusing to honor Schwarzenegger with a key

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 2>state honor because of Schwarzenegger's disapproval of Newsom's pushed to

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 2>redistrict the state and jerrymander it so that basically the

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:46.839
<v Speaker 2>entire place becomes democratic. Congressionally, tell us about a bit

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 2>more about this year, what the terminator is doing here

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 2>to Newsom and how this is all happening.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean it seems petty as possible, just on

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 11>the surface. You know, it's so funny because Newsom has

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:02.359
<v Speaker 11>been having this really aggressive effort to rebrand him on

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 11>social media. He's the tough guy. He's fighting fire with

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.399
<v Speaker 11>fire with Trump. But if he can't stand up to Schwarzenegger,

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 11>who is not very political at this point in his career.

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.240
<v Speaker 11>Yes he was a Republican, still is, but he's the

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.800
<v Speaker 11>softest of Republicans you'll possibly find, so he's not throwing

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 11>sharp elbows. So this just seems like a very, very

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 11>very minor way to strike back at someone who's criticizing

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 11>something you're doing, but engage with the governator and see

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:30.720
<v Speaker 11>why there are why they might agree on some issues

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 11>as well. So it just seems like a bad political

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 11>move of someone who's got a little bit of energy

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:36.959
<v Speaker 11>right now for better or worse.

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 2>But Christian, you know you're in California. I have a

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 2>lot of people here in Australia talking to me about

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.799
<v Speaker 2>Gavin Newsom asking what I think about him, and I

0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 2>feel like this is one of those moments. It's very

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 2>revealing about the guy's character. I mean, if he's going

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 2>to be so petty about this, you know, is everything

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 2>just going to be this political fight, turning everybody into

0:43:58.280 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 2>either friends or enemies.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it's a bad look for sure, and it's something

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 11>he shouldn't really be engaging with. He should just honor

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 11>the ex governor, who's obviously a huge movie star and

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 11>a pop culture icon and just leave it there. I mean,

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 11>I think that's magnanimous and I think it's what people

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 11>want to see from the politicians. Yes, you know, we'll

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:18.840
<v Speaker 11>get in the fight and we'll throw some sharp elbows,

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 11>but then the day you've got to kind of rise

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 11>to a certain level and just be above it all

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 11>and just this is the perfect moment. And you know

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 11>the fact that Politico is reporting on this, which is

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 11>not exactly a conservative website, makes it more interesting for sure.

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 11>Just a quick note, I'm actually based in Denver, Colorado,

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 11>but I'm sorry Hollywood and California excessively.

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 2>My apologies for the miss geography there. I guess we

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 2>can call it there. Hey, before I should go there?

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.399
<v Speaker 1>How dare I? But it's Colorado, sir.

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 2>But I want to get your thoughts finally before I

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 2>let you go about this amazing story about Vanity Fair

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 2>magazine where apparently the journals are going to walk out

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 2>because first Lady Milania Trump is set to feature on

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the magazine's front cover.

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I would sink that.

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Malania Trump is this incredibly glamorous woman who speaks a

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 2>bunch of languages and has brought, you know, her own

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 2>flare and elegance to the White House.

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:14.879
<v Speaker 1>Yet people can't accept her. What's going on here?

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 2>That even that at Vanity Fair they won't come into

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 2>the office if they run her on the cover.

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 11>I mean, none of this is surprising. There is a

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.360
<v Speaker 11>reason why she hasn't graced any covers in many years,

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 11>despite what she's been accomplishing and because of her role

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 11>in the White House. But I would just suggest to

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 11>the people who are blowing a gasket over this particular

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.479
<v Speaker 11>potential cover to watch the movie we just talked about,

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 11>Elephant in the Room. They may kind of open their

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 11>minds a bet about, Hey, maybe we all can get

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 11>along and maybe a beautiful, interesting first lady deserves to

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.879
<v Speaker 11>be on her magazine cover without all sorts of consternation.

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 11>Or I could just say quit leave. I'm sure a

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 11>lot of journalists out there would love the jobs you have.

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 11>I think they'll step in pretty quickly.

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just amazing to me that anybody would be

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 2>walking out of a magazine job in New York. But

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 2>there you go, Christian Toto, thank you so much for

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 2>your time, and check out the Hollywood and Tote website

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 2>now so you stick around, because only in America is

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 2>in a second.

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>But isn't it great that.

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 2>The United States is serviced by such a staid and

0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:15.320
<v Speaker 2>serious White House press corps. I mean, here's one CBS

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:20.360
<v Speaker 2>reporter soberly taking the news that Taylor Swift had just

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 2>become engaged.

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 15>Taylor Swift is engaged. Taylor Swift is engaged. Taylor Swift

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 15>is engaged. This come back to me. She just posted it.

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 15>Oh my god, Oh my god.

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:39.800
<v Speaker 11>Oh it's huge.

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:42.320
<v Speaker 1>The ring is jo enormous. This is so exciting.

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 15>Oh my god, oh my god, Oh my god. It's

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 15>on her Instagram. It's on her Instagram. It's on her Instagram.

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 15>Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:51.799
<v Speaker 15>my god, my god.

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 5>I feel like.

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:57.280
<v Speaker 15>Paul Revere right now. This is a very exciting moment

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 15>for me in my professional career because I get to

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 15>announce that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are engaged.

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Call me a grump.

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't care, but I do care because Only in

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 2>America is next to stick around. Welcome back to the program,

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 2>and now it's time for a little segment we like

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:26.359
<v Speaker 2>to call Only in America. Well, this week on Only

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:29.799
<v Speaker 2>in America, it seems like the old Keystone Cops are

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.239
<v Speaker 2>alive and well and getting it done or not done,

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 2>as the case may be. In San Francisco. Now check

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 2>this out here. This is footage from San Francisco, one

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:43.720
<v Speaker 2>of the crown jewels in future presidential contender Gavin Newsom's

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 2>crown of a robbery suspect who appears to have been

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 2>pinned down and cornered by the cops in his car

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:53.919
<v Speaker 2>with nowhere to run. But let's watch for a moment here.

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it looks like they've pretty much got him,

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 2>don't they. There got the roadspikes. They're swinging something at

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:00.320
<v Speaker 2>the car.

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Boa. No, no, no, he's gone. He is gone. I'm sorry.

0:48:04.719 --> 0:48:07.839
<v Speaker 2>What don't the San Francisco cops have guns? How did

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<v Speaker 2>that happen? Tell you what if Donald Trump is looking

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<v Speaker 2>for the next place to send the National Guard?

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<v Speaker 1>Here? San Francisco was lovely this time of year.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's all the time we have for this week,

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<v Speaker 2>So until next week, Bye bye.