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<v Speaker 1>It is actually weird that when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>some of you, you know, you may be the best

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<v Speaker 1>friend when you're older, like and you're about to pass away,

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<v Speaker 1>you might not have met yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a bit deep.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very brief.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Where's your Head At? Is a podcast that talks

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<v Speaker 2>full things. Right, hold on a sec, let's give this

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<v Speaker 2>a refresh. Hi, I'm Anna.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm Matt, and we are now too newlywed not

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<v Speaker 1>to each other. Just a female and male best friend

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<v Speaker 1>here for the good, the bad, and the ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>Times and exploring adulthood, family relationships, dilemmas.

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<v Speaker 1>And whatever else we have the mental capacity to deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>Come get the lowdown.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your male and female perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Matt, where's your head at? It's good morning? How

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<v Speaker 2>are you now?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good Anna? How are you today?

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<v Speaker 2>Matt? I was arguing over who's more time? I'm pregnant?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that mean you're tired? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I feel like I literally wake up in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning and my whole body is aching all over. I've

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<v Speaker 2>also been having some round ligament.

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<v Speaker 1>Pain and you were just talking about this. Talk us

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<v Speaker 1>through what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's basically just a pregnancy symptom when the tummy's growing,

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<v Speaker 2>when the baby's growing. And I've just been getting these shooting,

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<v Speaker 2>sharp pains in my lower kind of mid tummy area,

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<v Speaker 2>so much so that because I haven't really had that before,

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking maybe I would need to go to

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<v Speaker 2>a hospital. I don't know, so I've been calling memob anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all fine, it's normal. It's around ligamit pain. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just one of the many fun things about pregnancy. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more tired than you.

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<v Speaker 1>So your belly is obviously growing, yeah, the baby, And

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<v Speaker 1>is that what's hurting that it's growing outwards? I think So,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about being pregnant. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>anything about having babies. Probably never will, so you'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to explain to me more in detail about that. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess like what that means, but you don't know. So

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<v Speaker 1>next topic, No, And I think that I woke up

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<v Speaker 1>the other day in a lot of pain as well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not as much as you being pregnant, but I

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<v Speaker 1>went and trained down at the local club Assie Rules

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<v Speaker 1>you did.

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<v Speaker 2>How was that?

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<v Speaker 1>I was nervous? I haven't been or I haven't played

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<v Speaker 1>football in probably ten years. Nineteen was the last time.

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<v Speaker 1>I Yeah, I retired when I was nineteen, actually retired. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like there hung the votes up at nineteen. That was

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<v Speaker 1>my last time. So yeah, exactly ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not think when I stopped playing then that

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<v Speaker 1>ten years later I will take it again in the

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Coast, on the Gold Coast.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten years later, you'd come out of retirement on.

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<v Speaker 1>The Gold Coast to play. Did not think, Well, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had less I jumped to too much. I've only had

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<v Speaker 1>one training session. I don't know, like if I will

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<v Speaker 1>fully commit to playing, I'd love to. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I even fitted straight into that culture straight away, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with all the boys. I loved it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to make some mates as well. Off on

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<v Speaker 1>the goal, well I need you. I've got friends. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I guess you'd go in twice a week to training,

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<v Speaker 1>playing on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really nice because obviously you've been I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna say worried, but you've been a bit like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe in the dumps. Would you say about the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, you don't have as many friends up there,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're such a social guy, and so the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you've gone out of your way in this new

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<v Speaker 2>state that you've moved to, and you've really put yourself

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<v Speaker 2>out there and joined the local footy club. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>good on you.

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<v Speaker 1>How good I am proud of myself because I did

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<v Speaker 1>think to myself. I remember speaking to tamming'smum before I left,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I don't know, like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit nervous. I was like, oh, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how they're going to go, like how I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to go talking to people. But as soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>got there introduced myself to the coach, he was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually came up swinging. He was like a have

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<v Speaker 1>to be spoken. He's like, I've actually just just clicked

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<v Speaker 1>who you were and I was like oh yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, yeah, my wife loved that show. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I dabbled in it and I thought you're funny or something.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he's like, oh you laugh. I did, And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was like oh right, and he's like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>not tell the other boys about that that I watched

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<v Speaker 1>it or Anything's like let's keep down, like and I

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<v Speaker 1>laughed and I was like oh okay, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a kick. I pulled up so sore did you.

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<v Speaker 1>I that's the one thing that I realized how unfit

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<v Speaker 1>I actually was.

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<v Speaker 2>The body just doesn't recover this same.

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<v Speaker 1>Not when you're nearly thirty, not like I did when

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<v Speaker 1>I was nineteen. So I'll keep training and I'll see

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<v Speaker 1>how I go, see if I play a game or two.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you make any friends?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I didn't follow or at anyone on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't make those sort of friends. But I

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<v Speaker 1>made Yeah, like I was mate. I hung out with

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<v Speaker 1>people and laughed, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You would like if you went back, you would want

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<v Speaker 2>to hang out with them again, so they could be

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<v Speaker 2>potentially friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have potentially made friends. Who would have thought?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what's so funny is I potentially made

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<v Speaker 2>friends too recently?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you manage that? At a baby thing? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So I I went to I've Joined Bump, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a pregnancy pilates kind of class, and I went into

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<v Speaker 2>the class, and I don't know, sometimes I get a

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<v Speaker 2>bit shy going into new environments, new classes, so I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just kept to myself. And this girl called

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<v Speaker 2>Jess was like, hey, like how are you? And like

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<v Speaker 2>we spoke and I made.

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<v Speaker 1>A new friend. Did you follow her at her?

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<v Speaker 2>On Facebook because I didn't know her last name.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have another class?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I?

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<v Speaker 1>What? Do you have another class where you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm going to go again. I've been going a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times, but I haven't seen her sands. But

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<v Speaker 2>I've literally called Michael after the class and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I made a new friend, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Jess, if you're listening to this, please reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to Anna. She wants to be friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be friends. No.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny you say that, though, because my mum's best

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<v Speaker 1>friend she met in mother's group. Yeah, and then she's

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<v Speaker 1>like my auntie.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's so interesting because I feel like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of your initial friends you make at school, primary school

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<v Speaker 2>or high.

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<v Speaker 1>School playing football.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're Matt Zukowski, you're playing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm talking about my best man. And I've met

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<v Speaker 1>playing footy when I was like nine years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So you like meet them in these earlier

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<v Speaker 2>stages of your life. So it's so funny that I've

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<v Speaker 2>come onto the podcast today being like, we made a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>It is actually weird that when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>some of you, you know, may be the best friend

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<v Speaker 1>when you're older, like and you're about to pass away.

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<v Speaker 1>You might not have met yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh fuck, that's a bit deep.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, it is quite exciting to know. And like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, like your mum's best friend she met at

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<v Speaker 2>mother's group. That's exciting to me because every I guess

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<v Speaker 2>they place you into a mother's group with people they

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<v Speaker 2>look at the map and everyone who's given birth in

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<v Speaker 2>the area recently and like pair you with people who

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<v Speaker 2>are living in a close vicinity to you. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>cool that I could be placed into a mother's group

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<v Speaker 2>with people really connect, really get along, and potentially have

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<v Speaker 2>a new friend for life. I love having saying friends

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<v Speaker 2>like there's only one one place about my friend my.

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<v Speaker 1>Mum and Betty also had there was another girl and

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<v Speaker 1>they all lived in the same court together and in

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<v Speaker 1>the same mother's group. But anyway, what I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>say is that you're going to make new friends. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm now making new friends making new friends as so

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<v Speaker 1>happy for that. While speaking of new friends, Anna Tammy

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<v Speaker 1>and I have made a new friend called Patrick.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, elaborate color. You don't know more, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>do want to know more. I'm just confused. So I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't heard of Patrick.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick is a made up mystical person roommate if you must,

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<v Speaker 1>and he lives with Tammy and I, and we blame

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<v Speaker 1>everything on him that happens. So, for instance, we will say, ah, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick keeps leaving his bikinis in the bathroom, and she'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh okay, or she'll like, Matt Patrick doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make the bed in the morning, you know I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>And then we blame Patrick for all this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to make it less.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys against the problem. That is literally the couple against

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<v Speaker 2>the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, isn't it? And Patrick's a fucking problem, isn't he?

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<v Speaker 1>God damn it? Patrick.

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<v Speaker 2>I do really like that idea of like placing the

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<v Speaker 2>blame on this made up, metaphorical, mystical annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he is so annoying, trust me. So I recommend

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<v Speaker 1>if you and Michael want to introduce Patrick to the relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it have to be called Patrick. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>funny if everyone's is called Patrick.

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<v Speaker 1>It is kind of funny. And Patrick having to say

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't she wants to pick a new name. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I like Patrick.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick's funny. It just rounds me with SpongeBob squa.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say that, yeah, or Patrick Dempsey.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you have a new friend called Patrick and we

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<v Speaker 2>have both made new friends in our thirties, So it

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<v Speaker 2>is possible to not feel disconnected. And that is what

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<v Speaker 2>we are talking about in today's episode. Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, a lot of relationships and Anna because one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>or either of them fear he was trying to put

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<v Speaker 1>my serious voice on then, and you see the way

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting very serious into this mic.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got like a shoulder off or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like someone strange sitting stands this would be

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<v Speaker 1>more serious. I feel like a lot of relationships break

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<v Speaker 1>up because one of them feels disconnected from the other one.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you agree?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I literally say the words to Michael. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>disconnected over the smallest of issues, and it drives him insane,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he hates it when I say that.

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<v Speaker 1>What does he reply with?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Michael would say why do you feel disconnected? And

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll be like, well, blah blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael does hate it because he's like it makes me

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm doing something wrong, or.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like how often would you say you feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Disconnected often, But I think I said it more like

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<v Speaker 2>the start of the relationship. But I didn't really know

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<v Speaker 2>that it was affecting him much. But now he's spoken

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<v Speaker 2>to me about it, and he's like, I really hate

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<v Speaker 2>it when you say that. Like the thing is with

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<v Speaker 2>relationships as well, there's gonna be ebbs and flows. Like

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<v Speaker 2>of course, you know, me and Michael are at our

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<v Speaker 2>peak when we're on holidays, which is why I love

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<v Speaker 2>being on holiday with him, because we're so in love.

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<v Speaker 2>We give each other our full attention. Whereas I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like when we're at home, we're working constantly. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you spend a lot of time on your phone if

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<v Speaker 2>you work on your phone like me, So I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that kind of like plays into it. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not just on my phone on Instagram or TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever it is. I'm for my business talking to

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<v Speaker 2>manufacturers constantly. We do meetings via zoom on our phone.

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<v Speaker 2>For the podcast, I do content on my phone. I

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<v Speaker 2>edit things on my phone. Like it's just constant. So

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<v Speaker 2>my screen time is through the roof time. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I don't know how to look at it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm glad I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm scared to love for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't want to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So my daily average last week was three

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<v Speaker 1>hours and fifty eight minutes, with a total screen time

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<v Speaker 1>of seven hours and fifty six minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're on your phone for about four hours a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually hate sharing this because it makes me feel

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<v Speaker 2>so shit and it is annoying, but I guess it's

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<v Speaker 2>the reality. My daily average was six hours and one minute,

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<v Speaker 2>and my total screen time for the week was twelve

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<v Speaker 2>hours and four minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>And not one of those times you could have called

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<v Speaker 1>me back.

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<v Speaker 2>I call you all the time. We seek on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone too much as it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kiddy, no, but I think, like, no wonder Michael

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<v Speaker 1>feels disconnected?

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<v Speaker 2>One who said it? Not ah No, But I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's it is worth taking into consideration that we both

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<v Speaker 2>work on our phones a lot. So not that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make excuses for myself, but I think today

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk a lot about feeling disconnected and

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<v Speaker 2>how phones are getting in the way of not just

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<v Speaker 2>relationships but friendships, and what we can do to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of fix and help this. Okay, on average, how many

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<v Speaker 2>times do you think that smartphone you through unlock their

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<v Speaker 2>phones per day?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, a day, five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Not as many as any, but I mean it's still

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. Fifty times a day. And it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've ever done this, but have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever moved your apps around, like your main apps,

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<v Speaker 2>like your Instagram or your email or whatever. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>so your brain will automatically go to the place that

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<v Speaker 2>it wants to go, just subconsciously without you even realizing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the amount of times that I've locked my phone

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<v Speaker 1>and it was on the other slide of the apps

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<v Speaker 1>that was on that side, and then I've unlocked it

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<v Speaker 1>and gone on to where like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying, if there's like two screens of apps,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been a second screen, you've gone to the first

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<v Speaker 2>scree it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the times I've opened Medibank Private instead of like

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<v Speaker 1>where my Instagram is.

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<v Speaker 2>Killer, Yeah, And I mean it does affect your relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you sleep with your phone beside your bed? No,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't. Where do you sleep with your phone?

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this before on the podcast, and I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like having a phone next to me on

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<v Speaker 1>the bed. Or on the bedside table. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>gives out rais do you know what I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>toxic stuff. I don't want to say, like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>give you. I don't know, there's no Yeah, I'm worried

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I remember some doctor when we did we

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<v Speaker 1>put up a real of that, and some doctor debunked

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<v Speaker 1>it and said, I have no proof of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we said that Matt. Matt said that he sleeps

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<v Speaker 2>with aeroplane mode.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I don't sleep with airplane mode. I sleep with

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<v Speaker 1>it on the ground or not next to my head

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<v Speaker 1>or on my pillow because I don't like.

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<v Speaker 2>You think that you could get radiation radiation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then this guy who.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a doctor, well, I don't know if you can

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<v Speaker 2>go doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor, was he?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so? And he was like, I have no

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<v Speaker 1>evidence on this and I and I was like, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying to you. I was like, I'm not claiming

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<v Speaker 1>to have any evidence of this. I'm just saying that's

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<v Speaker 1>just my personal preface.

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<v Speaker 2>What you do. I've heard people say that if you

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<v Speaker 2>put your phone on aeroplane mode, it gives out less radiation.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, we have to look at the scientific evidence

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<v Speaker 2>on it. Well, I thought this was interesting. Seventy one

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<v Speaker 2>percent of smartphone owners sleep with the phone directly beside

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<v Speaker 2>their bed. That's a lot, and check their phone whilst

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<v Speaker 2>using the bathroom, which I think is quite low.

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<v Speaker 1>That is quite low. I really enjoy going to the

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom and on your phone on my phone and just

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<v Speaker 1>doom scrolling.

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<v Speaker 2>So how long would you sit on the toilet for?

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<v Speaker 1>My legs will go.

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<v Speaker 2>Legs until the legs go numb.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're like, yeah, you don't get that luxury

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<v Speaker 1>these days, and you'll realize that in a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get that. Yeah, but what I do? I

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<v Speaker 1>have noticed I've done this and I'm trying not to.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to the bathroom standing up like I for

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<v Speaker 1>a pee. I'll pull my phone out and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck am I doing? I don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing that. Yeah, and I'll put it away. I

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<v Speaker 1>have seen myself do that a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Of times, especially for boys, because you stand up while

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<v Speaker 2>we it's like, really like you should not leave a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know my mates that have pulled it out

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<v Speaker 1>and dropped it into the toilet. Yeah, I've done that

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I shouldn't do this. In case I

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<v Speaker 1>do that, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So obviously I think we're all pretty addicted to

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<v Speaker 2>our phones.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you calling addicted?

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<v Speaker 2>No, but right, like we're all addicted.

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<v Speaker 1>The first steps emitting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can definitely admit it. My screen time is

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<v Speaker 2>two hours more than yours a day, which is pissing

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<v Speaker 2>me off.

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<v Speaker 1>Lost because you do it for work?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know, but it does. Actually being on your

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<v Speaker 2>phone all the time has really significant health impacts, negative

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<v Speaker 2>health impacts. So let's talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>What are some of the health impacts that being on

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<v Speaker 1>your phone all day might have for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So disrupted sleep is a big one, especially if

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<v Speaker 2>you're on your phone before bed. It's really exciting your

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<v Speaker 2>brain and giving it lots of dope for being before

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<v Speaker 2>bed as opposed to I don't know if you've ever

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<v Speaker 2>read a book before bed. I literally will fall asleep

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<v Speaker 2>so quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>As opposed to be it's so boring.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but no, because it's just like I'm taking the

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<v Speaker 2>information and then I get so sleepy and it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like puts me to sleep, and I go to.

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<v Speaker 1>A nice do you fall asleep with the TV on. No, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy guys. Really yeah, she has to have it on,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like it's my pet. Hay. I really don't

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<v Speaker 1>like falling sleep with the TV on. I can't up

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle and yeah, yeah, I like Pitch Black,

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<v Speaker 1>no noise, so nothing. Yeah, but you'll fall asleep before me.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I'll watch what I want to watch, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'll turn it off.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, So disrupted sleep is one I strain. I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely feel this. My eyes get super dry. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at my phone for a long time. Ry, Ye're dry,

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<v Speaker 2>like because I'm just staring, and especially if I'm editing videos,

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<v Speaker 2>I notice it. My eyes get quite exhausted. I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to wear glasses, so I try to sometimes wear

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<v Speaker 2>my glasses and it stops with the eyestrain. But ice

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<v Speaker 2>train is a big one. Headaches, which also relates to

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<v Speaker 2>ice train because you can get migraine headaches.

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<v Speaker 1>My phone for too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like behind the eyeball headaches so annoying. And

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<v Speaker 2>also when your vision starts to go blurry from a migraine,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like the worst feeling. Have you ever had a

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<v Speaker 2>migraine where your vision goes blurry on touch wood and.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch me have one tomorrow. Not that I can remember

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I used to get them really badly, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's so scary because your vision starts to go and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, like within hour, you need to be

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<v Speaker 2>in a dark room in bed. I remember it happened

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<v Speaker 2>to me once in Barron Bay and I just checked

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<v Speaker 2>out of my hotel and I was walking. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I had like three hours until my flight, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was just gonna explore the town. Oh no, go shopping,

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<v Speaker 2>and my vision started to go. And luckily I was

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<v Speaker 2>in Barron Bay. So I went to this real hippie

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it was, but this woman, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm getting a migraine. She did all

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<v Speaker 2>this natural remedy kind of things. It didn't really help

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<v Speaker 2>that much, but the fact that I was lying on

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<v Speaker 2>a bed definitely was helpful in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Another one Anna is, as I sit up in my

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<v Speaker 1>seat properly, poor posture.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch us all sit up straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everyone listening to this as well, Ione will sit

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<v Speaker 1>up straight because yeah, you're hunched over on your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>doom scrolling I can see why that would be saw neck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anxiety and stress, particularly for the younger generation, when

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<v Speaker 2>you're on your phone, you know, when you're consuming just

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<v Speaker 2>so much information and you just get so overwhelmed and

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<v Speaker 2>anxious and the only way to help you feel better

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<v Speaker 2>is to put your phone away, but you're so addicted

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<v Speaker 2>that you just continue to doom scroll or well.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I read something and it said if the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing you do when you wake up is look

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<v Speaker 1>at your phone, that's your first dopamine hit. So they

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<v Speaker 1>recommend to go an hour when you wake up without

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<v Speaker 1>checking your phone, which I need to get better right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's just so hard because if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a business, the first thing you're doing is checking emails.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very hard, Yeah, because you wake up and you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to see what's going on. Where As I think

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to try now, and it's hard because

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the gym, so when I wake up,

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<v Speaker 1>I go for a walk or a gym, so then

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<v Speaker 1>like you're on your phone then to pick music and

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<v Speaker 1>that so it's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of like, okay, so how you know

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<v Speaker 2>you're addicted to your phone, which I'm going to just

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<v Speaker 2>put my hand up and say I'm addicted to my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, first step submitting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to say anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Or oh, my name is Matthew and I am addicted

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<v Speaker 1>to my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, I think, I think we all are.

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<v Speaker 2>But signs that you're very addicted constantly checking your phone,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you wake up in the morning, first thing

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, you're checking it excess screen time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you how I knew I was addicted. The

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<v Speaker 1>plane on the way down didn't have Wi Fi, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like I had downloaded movies before and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a book, and I still was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go on.

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok, but that's a luxury.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I have to say, listen to me, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the first world. Probably I don't really go.

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<v Speaker 2>On Wi Fi on an aeroplane, Like I just accept

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't have Wi Fi anxiety without a phone.

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<v Speaker 2>So actually, if your phone battery dies and then you

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<v Speaker 2>get this deep level of anxiety, another telltale sign you're

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<v Speaker 2>addicted and prioritizing phones over real life interactions. I really

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<v Speaker 2>am going to make a pact and a resolution. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not January but February resolution to be on my phone

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<v Speaker 2>a lot less, because I definitely think that I have accidentally,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you're working and then you just like quickly

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<v Speaker 2>head to Instagram or something, and then you know, last night,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, Michael was like, I'm sick of watching TV.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sick of watching We were watching Maths and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sick of watching Maths and like being on our phones. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go for a beach walk. We went for a

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<v Speaker 2>beach walk. So nice. I'll always remember that, But you

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember those times when you're sitting side by side

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<v Speaker 2>on your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>That happens a lot more than I care to.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's just something that you need to

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<v Speaker 2>actively say to yourself I'm not going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever scroll together?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Previously we'd scrolled TikTok together, Yeah, because we'd be like

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<v Speaker 1>sitting next to time me, I'll just make this one,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'd sit there and scroll together.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what it's called when you are with

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<v Speaker 2>your partner and you feel like your partner is on

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<v Speaker 2>their phone and then you're just kind of like sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Has a name for it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a name.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it called?

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<v Speaker 2>It's called thubbing, fubbing, Yeah, like you've been fubbed off

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<v Speaker 2>by your partner.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny. I'm going to use that. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>there's like the tiktoks that go around and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>my wife or my girlfriend once she puts down her

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<v Speaker 1>phone for one second and then just like cracks it

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<v Speaker 1>at you because you're still on it and she's done.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that you? Is that you with Michael?

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<v Speaker 2>No, But I would say that when I go out

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<v Speaker 2>to dinner or lunch or if I'm with people, I

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<v Speaker 2>try not to be on my phone, right because it

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<v Speaker 2>actually is really annoying if you're with someone and they're

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<v Speaker 2>constantly on their phone and constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's just manners. Though it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, but a lot of people don't have good

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<v Speaker 2>manners when it comes to phone etiquette. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's really important to be really conscious and hyper

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<v Speaker 2>aware of your surroundings and like, of course, sometimes people

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<v Speaker 2>might have important me or people that they need to

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<v Speaker 2>be talking to, but majority of the time you need

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<v Speaker 2>to be putting the phone away. And twenty five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of people in married couples and forty two percent of

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<v Speaker 2>unmarried couples in serious relationships do report feeling distracted by

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<v Speaker 2>their partner's phone us, so they feel a bit fubbed us.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we're trying to say, guys is, yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>are in the digital age where it is very easy

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<v Speaker 1>to get consumed and lost in your phone and to

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<v Speaker 1>make your partner feel neglected. And what the word we've learned.

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<v Speaker 2>Is fubbing, fubbing, fobbing, fubbing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fubbing, fubbing your partner off. Let's be conscious of

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<v Speaker 1>that and work on that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I'm going to make a real effort to be

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<v Speaker 2>on my phone a lot less. I'm going to tell

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<v Speaker 2>Michael to do the same thing, and hopefully we can

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<v Speaker 2>all live a happier and peaceful and less stress life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, guys, want to hear from you as always. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you've taken this and you've gone hang on, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fubbing my partner off, and you change it, let us know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, guys, until next time, See ye