Speaker 1: It is actually weird that when you think about it,
Speaker 1: some of you, you know, you may be the best
Speaker 1: friend when you're older, like and you're about to pass away,
Speaker 1: you might not have met yet.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a bit deep.
Speaker 1: It's very brief.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Where's your Head At? Is a podcast that talks
Speaker 2: full things. Right, hold on a sec, let's give this
Speaker 2: a refresh. Hi, I'm Anna.
Speaker 1: And I'm Matt, and we are now too newlywed not
Speaker 1: to each other. Just a female and male best friend
Speaker 1: here for the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Speaker 2: Times and exploring adulthood, family relationships, dilemmas.
Speaker 1: And whatever else we have the mental capacity to deal with.
Speaker 2: Come get the lowdown.
Speaker 1: This is your male and female perspective.
Speaker 2: So, Matt, where's your head at? It's good morning? How
Speaker 2: are you now?
Speaker 1: I'm good Anna? How are you today?
Speaker 2: Matt? I was arguing over who's more time? I'm pregnant?
Speaker 1: Does that mean you're tired? Though?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel like I literally wake up in the
Speaker 2: morning and my whole body is aching all over. I've
Speaker 2: also been having some round ligament.
Speaker 1: Pain and you were just talking about this. Talk us
Speaker 1: through what that means.
Speaker 2: So it's basically just a pregnancy symptom when the tummy's growing,
Speaker 2: when the baby's growing. And I've just been getting these shooting,
Speaker 2: sharp pains in my lower kind of mid tummy area,
Speaker 2: so much so that because I haven't really had that before,
Speaker 2: I was thinking maybe I would need to go to
Speaker 2: a hospital. I don't know, so I've been calling memob anyway.
Speaker 2: It's all fine, it's normal. It's around ligamit pain. But yeah,
Speaker 2: just one of the many fun things about pregnancy. But
Speaker 2: I'm more tired than you.
Speaker 1: So your belly is obviously growing, yeah, the baby, And
Speaker 1: is that what's hurting that it's growing outwards? I think So,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about being pregnant. I don't know
Speaker 1: anything about having babies. Probably never will, so you'll have
Speaker 1: to explain to me more in detail about that. I
Speaker 1: guess like what that means, but you don't know. So
Speaker 1: next topic, No, And I think that I woke up
Speaker 1: the other day in a lot of pain as well,
Speaker 1: maybe not as much as you being pregnant, but I
Speaker 1: went and trained down at the local club Assie Rules
Speaker 1: you did.
Speaker 2: How was that?
Speaker 1: I was nervous? I haven't been or I haven't played
Speaker 1: football in probably ten years. Nineteen was the last time.
Speaker 1: I Yeah, I retired when I was nineteen, actually retired. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like there hung the votes up at nineteen. That was
Speaker 1: my last time. So yeah, exactly ten years.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I did not think when I stopped playing then that
Speaker 1: ten years later I will take it again in the
Speaker 1: Gold Coast, on the Gold Coast.
Speaker 2: Ten years later, you'd come out of retirement on.
Speaker 1: The Gold Coast to play. Did not think, Well, I've
Speaker 1: had less I jumped to too much. I've only had
Speaker 1: one training session. I don't know, like if I will
Speaker 1: fully commit to playing, I'd love to. I feel like
Speaker 1: I even fitted straight into that culture straight away, like
Speaker 1: you know, with all the boys. I loved it, and
Speaker 1: I needed to make some mates as well. Off on
Speaker 1: the goal, well I need you. I've got friends. But
Speaker 1: like I guess you'd go in twice a week to training,
Speaker 1: playing on the weekend.
Speaker 2: I think it's really nice because obviously you've been I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say worried, but you've been a bit like
Speaker 2: maybe in the dumps. Would you say about the fact
Speaker 2: that you know, you don't have as many friends up there,
Speaker 2: and you're such a social guy, and so the fact
Speaker 2: that you've gone out of your way in this new
Speaker 2: state that you've moved to, and you've really put yourself
Speaker 2: out there and joined the local footy club. I think,
Speaker 2: good on you.
Speaker 1: How good I am proud of myself because I did
Speaker 1: think to myself. I remember speaking to tamming'smum before I left,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know, like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was a bit nervous. I was like, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: know how they're going to go, like how I'm going
Speaker 1: to go talking to people. But as soon as I
Speaker 1: got there introduced myself to the coach, he was nice.
Speaker 1: He actually came up swinging. He was like a have
Speaker 1: to be spoken. He's like, I've actually just just clicked
Speaker 1: who you were and I was like oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, my wife loved that show. I mean
Speaker 1: I dabbled in it and I thought you're funny or something.
Speaker 1: And then he's like, oh you laugh. I did, And
Speaker 1: then I was like oh right, and he's like, let's
Speaker 1: not tell the other boys about that that I watched
Speaker 1: it or Anything's like let's keep down, like and I
Speaker 1: laughed and I was like oh okay, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: had a kick. I pulled up so sore did you.
Speaker 1: I that's the one thing that I realized how unfit
Speaker 1: I actually was.
Speaker 2: The body just doesn't recover this same.
Speaker 1: Not when you're nearly thirty, not like I did when
Speaker 1: I was nineteen. So I'll keep training and I'll see
Speaker 1: how I go, see if I play a game or two.
Speaker 2: Did you make any friends?
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't follow or at anyone on Facebook,
Speaker 1: so I didn't make those sort of friends. But I
Speaker 1: made Yeah, like I was mate. I hung out with
Speaker 1: people and laughed, and.
Speaker 2: You would like if you went back, you would want
Speaker 2: to hang out with them again, so they could be
Speaker 2: potentially friends.
Speaker 1: I could have potentially made friends. Who would have thought?
Speaker 2: Do you know what's so funny is I potentially made
Speaker 2: friends too recently?
Speaker 1: How do you manage that? At a baby thing? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So I I went to I've Joined Bump, which is
Speaker 2: a pregnancy pilates kind of class, and I went into
Speaker 2: the class, and I don't know, sometimes I get a
Speaker 2: bit shy going into new environments, new classes, so I
Speaker 2: kind of just kept to myself. And this girl called
Speaker 2: Jess was like, hey, like how are you? And like
Speaker 2: we spoke and I made.
Speaker 1: A new friend. Did you follow her at her?
Speaker 2: On Facebook because I didn't know her last name.
Speaker 1: Did you have another class?
Speaker 2: Did I?
Speaker 1: What? Do you have another class where you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to go again. I've been going a
Speaker 2: couple of times, but I haven't seen her sands. But
Speaker 2: I've literally called Michael after the class and I was like,
Speaker 2: I think I made a new friend, and he was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 1: Wow, Jess, if you're listening to this, please reach out
Speaker 1: to Anna. She wants to be friends.
Speaker 2: I want to be friends. No.
Speaker 1: It's funny you say that, though, because my mum's best
Speaker 1: friend she met in mother's group. Yeah, and then she's
Speaker 1: like my auntie.
Speaker 2: And it's so interesting because I feel like a lot
Speaker 2: of your initial friends you make at school, primary school
Speaker 2: or high.
Speaker 1: School playing football.
Speaker 2: If you're Matt Zukowski, you're playing for me.
Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about my best man. And I've met
Speaker 1: playing footy when I was like nine years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So you like meet them in these earlier
Speaker 2: stages of your life. So it's so funny that I've
Speaker 2: come onto the podcast today being like, we made a friend.
Speaker 1: It is actually weird that when you think about it,
Speaker 1: some of you, you know, may be the best friend
Speaker 1: when you're older, like and you're about to pass away.
Speaker 1: You might not have met yet.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, that's a bit deep.
Speaker 1: It's a very.
Speaker 2: But no, it is quite exciting to know. And like
Speaker 2: you said, like your mum's best friend she met at
Speaker 2: mother's group. That's exciting to me because every I guess
Speaker 2: they place you into a mother's group with people they
Speaker 2: look at the map and everyone who's given birth in
Speaker 2: the area recently and like pair you with people who
Speaker 2: are living in a close vicinity to you. So it's
Speaker 2: cool that I could be placed into a mother's group
Speaker 2: with people really connect, really get along, and potentially have
Speaker 2: a new friend for life. I love having saying friends
Speaker 2: like there's only one one place about my friend my.
Speaker 1: Mum and Betty also had there was another girl and
Speaker 1: they all lived in the same court together and in
Speaker 1: the same mother's group. But anyway, what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say is that you're going to make new friends. And
Speaker 1: I'm now making new friends making new friends as so
Speaker 1: happy for that. While speaking of new friends, Anna Tammy
Speaker 1: and I have made a new friend called Patrick.
Speaker 2: Okay, elaborate color. You don't know more, you know, I
Speaker 2: do want to know more. I'm just confused. So I
Speaker 2: haven't heard of Patrick.
Speaker 1: Patrick is a made up mystical person roommate if you must,
Speaker 1: and he lives with Tammy and I, and we blame
Speaker 1: everything on him that happens. So, for instance, we will say, ah, babe,
Speaker 1: Patrick keeps leaving his bikinis in the bathroom, and she'll
Speaker 1: be like, oh okay, or she'll like, Matt Patrick doesn't
Speaker 1: make the bed in the morning, you know I mean,
Speaker 1: And then we blame Patrick for all this sort of
Speaker 1: stuff to make it less.
Speaker 2: Guys against the problem. That is literally the couple against
Speaker 2: the problem.
Speaker 1: It is, isn't it? And Patrick's a fucking problem, isn't he?
Speaker 1: God damn it? Patrick.
Speaker 2: I do really like that idea of like placing the
Speaker 2: blame on this made up, metaphorical, mystical annoying.
Speaker 1: Oh he is so annoying, trust me. So I recommend
Speaker 1: if you and Michael want to introduce Patrick to the relationship.
Speaker 2: Does it have to be called Patrick. It's kind of
Speaker 2: funny if everyone's is called Patrick.
Speaker 1: It is kind of funny. And Patrick having to say
Speaker 1: she doesn't she wants to pick a new name. But
Speaker 1: I was like, I like Patrick.
Speaker 2: Patrick's funny. It just rounds me with SpongeBob squa.
Speaker 1: I was about to say that, yeah, or Patrick Dempsey.
Speaker 2: Well, you have a new friend called Patrick and we
Speaker 2: have both made new friends in our thirties, So it
Speaker 2: is possible to not feel disconnected. And that is what
Speaker 2: we are talking about in today's episode. Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: So, a lot of relationships and Anna because one of them,
Speaker 1: or either of them fear he was trying to put
Speaker 1: my serious voice on then, and you see the way
Speaker 1: I'm sitting very serious into this mic.
Speaker 2: You've got like a shoulder off or something.
Speaker 1: I feel like someone strange sitting stands this would be
Speaker 1: more serious. I feel like a lot of relationships break
Speaker 1: up because one of them feels disconnected from the other one.
Speaker 1: Would you agree?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I literally say the words to Michael. I feel
Speaker 2: disconnected over the smallest of issues, and it drives him insane,
Speaker 2: Like he hates it when I say that.
Speaker 1: What does he reply with?
Speaker 2: Well, Michael would say why do you feel disconnected? And
Speaker 2: then I'll be like, well, blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Michael does hate it because he's like it makes me
Speaker 2: feel like I'm doing something wrong, or.
Speaker 1: You know, like how often would you say you feel.
Speaker 2: Disconnected often, But I think I said it more like
Speaker 2: the start of the relationship. But I didn't really know
Speaker 2: that it was affecting him much. But now he's spoken
Speaker 2: to me about it, and he's like, I really hate
Speaker 2: it when you say that. Like the thing is with
Speaker 2: relationships as well, there's gonna be ebbs and flows. Like
Speaker 2: of course, you know, me and Michael are at our
Speaker 2: peak when we're on holidays, which is why I love
Speaker 2: being on holiday with him, because we're so in love.
Speaker 2: We give each other our full attention. Whereas I feel
Speaker 2: like when we're at home, we're working constantly. You know,
Speaker 2: you spend a lot of time on your phone if
Speaker 2: you work on your phone like me, So I feel
Speaker 2: like that kind of like plays into it. Like I
Speaker 2: I'm not just on my phone on Instagram or TikTok
Speaker 2: or whatever it is. I'm for my business talking to
Speaker 2: manufacturers constantly. We do meetings via zoom on our phone.
Speaker 2: For the podcast, I do content on my phone. I
Speaker 2: edit things on my phone. Like it's just constant. So
Speaker 2: my screen time is through the roof time. I actually
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know how to look at it,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad I don't.
Speaker 1: Because I'm scared to love for everyone.
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to see it.
Speaker 1: All right, So my daily average last week was three
Speaker 1: hours and fifty eight minutes, with a total screen time
Speaker 1: of seven hours and fifty six minutes.
Speaker 2: So you're on your phone for about four hours a day.
Speaker 1: Yeah right.
Speaker 2: I actually hate sharing this because it makes me feel
Speaker 2: so shit and it is annoying, but I guess it's
Speaker 2: the reality. My daily average was six hours and one minute,
Speaker 2: and my total screen time for the week was twelve
Speaker 2: hours and four minutes.
Speaker 1: And not one of those times you could have called
Speaker 1: me back.
Speaker 2: I call you all the time. We seek on the
Speaker 2: phone too much as it is.
Speaker 1: I'm kiddy, no, but I think, like, no wonder Michael
Speaker 1: feels disconnected?
Speaker 2: One who said it? Not ah No, But I think
Speaker 2: it's it is worth taking into consideration that we both
Speaker 2: work on our phones a lot. So not that I'm
Speaker 2: trying to make excuses for myself, but I think today
Speaker 2: we're going to talk a lot about feeling disconnected and
Speaker 2: how phones are getting in the way of not just
Speaker 2: relationships but friendships, and what we can do to kind
Speaker 2: of fix and help this. Okay, on average, how many
Speaker 2: times do you think that smartphone you through unlock their
Speaker 2: phones per day?
Speaker 1: Oh, a day, five hundred.
Speaker 2: Not as many as any, but I mean it's still
Speaker 2: a lot. Fifty times a day. And it's so funny.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever done this, but have
Speaker 2: you ever moved your apps around, like your main apps,
Speaker 2: like your Instagram or your email or whatever. And it's
Speaker 2: so your brain will automatically go to the place that
Speaker 2: it wants to go, just subconsciously without you even realizing.
Speaker 1: Oh, the amount of times that I've locked my phone
Speaker 1: and it was on the other slide of the apps
Speaker 1: that was on that side, and then I've unlocked it
Speaker 1: and gone on to where like, oh.
Speaker 2: So you're saying, if there's like two screens of apps,
Speaker 2: you've been a second screen, you've gone to the first
Speaker 2: scree it.
Speaker 1: And the times I've opened Medibank Private instead of like
Speaker 1: where my Instagram is.
Speaker 2: Killer, Yeah, And I mean it does affect your relationships.
Speaker 2: Do you sleep with your phone beside your bed? No,
Speaker 2: you don't. Where do you sleep with your phone?
Speaker 1: I've said this before on the podcast, and I'm very
Speaker 1: I don't like having a phone next to me on
Speaker 1: the bed. Or on the bedside table. I think it
Speaker 1: gives out rais do you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: toxic stuff. I don't want to say, like it doesn't
Speaker 1: give you. I don't know, there's no Yeah, I'm worried
Speaker 1: about it. I remember some doctor when we did we
Speaker 1: put up a real of that, and some doctor debunked
Speaker 1: it and said, I have no proof of that.
Speaker 2: Because we said that Matt. Matt said that he sleeps
Speaker 2: with aeroplane mode.
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't sleep with airplane mode. I sleep with
Speaker 1: it on the ground or not next to my head
Speaker 1: or on my pillow because I don't like.
Speaker 2: You think that you could get radiation radiation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then this guy who.
Speaker 2: Was a doctor, well, I don't know if you can
Speaker 2: go doctor.
Speaker 1: He was a.
Speaker 2: Doctor, was he?
Speaker 1: I think so? And he was like, I have no
Speaker 1: evidence on this and I and I was like, I said,
Speaker 1: I'm saying to you. I was like, I'm not claiming
Speaker 1: to have any evidence of this. I'm just saying that's
Speaker 1: just my personal preface.
Speaker 2: What you do. I've heard people say that if you
Speaker 2: put your phone on aeroplane mode, it gives out less radiation.
Speaker 2: But again, we have to look at the scientific evidence
Speaker 2: on it. Well, I thought this was interesting. Seventy one
Speaker 2: percent of smartphone owners sleep with the phone directly beside
Speaker 2: their bed. That's a lot, and check their phone whilst
Speaker 2: using the bathroom, which I think is quite low.
Speaker 1: That is quite low. I really enjoy going to the
Speaker 1: bathroom and on your phone on my phone and just
Speaker 1: doom scrolling.
Speaker 2: So how long would you sit on the toilet for?
Speaker 1: My legs will go.
Speaker 2: Legs until the legs go numb.
Speaker 1: And then you're like, yeah, you don't get that luxury
Speaker 1: these days, and you'll realize that in a couple of months.
Speaker 1: You don't get that. Yeah, but what I do? I
Speaker 1: have noticed I've done this and I'm trying not to.
Speaker 1: I'm going to the bathroom standing up like I for
Speaker 1: a pee. I'll pull my phone out and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck am I doing? I don't need to
Speaker 1: be doing that. Yeah, and I'll put it away. I
Speaker 1: have seen myself do that a couple.
Speaker 2: Of times, especially for boys, because you stand up while
Speaker 2: we it's like, really like you should not leave a
Speaker 2: lot of hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know my mates that have pulled it out
Speaker 1: and dropped it into the toilet. Yeah, I've done that
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I shouldn't do this. In case I
Speaker 1: do that, don't do that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So obviously I think we're all pretty addicted to
Speaker 2: our phones.
Speaker 1: Who are you calling addicted?
Speaker 2: No, but right, like we're all addicted.
Speaker 1: The first steps emitting it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can definitely admit it. My screen time is
Speaker 2: two hours more than yours a day, which is pissing
Speaker 2: me off.
Speaker 1: Lost because you do it for work?
Speaker 2: No, I know, but it does. Actually being on your
Speaker 2: phone all the time has really significant health impacts, negative
Speaker 2: health impacts. So let's talk about that.
Speaker 1: What are some of the health impacts that being on
Speaker 1: your phone all day might have for you?
Speaker 2: Okay, So disrupted sleep is a big one, especially if
Speaker 2: you're on your phone before bed. It's really exciting your
Speaker 2: brain and giving it lots of dope for being before
Speaker 2: bed as opposed to I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 2: read a book before bed. I literally will fall asleep
Speaker 2: so quickly.
Speaker 1: As opposed to be it's so boring.
Speaker 2: No, but no, because it's just like I'm taking the
Speaker 2: information and then I get so sleepy and it kind
Speaker 2: of like puts me to sleep, and I go to.
Speaker 1: A nice do you fall asleep with the TV on. No, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: Tammy guys. Really yeah, she has to have it on,
Speaker 1: so it's like it's my pet. Hay. I really don't
Speaker 1: like falling sleep with the TV on. I can't up
Speaker 1: in the middle and yeah, yeah, I like Pitch Black,
Speaker 1: no noise, so nothing. Yeah, but you'll fall asleep before me.
Speaker 1: Then I'll watch what I want to watch, and then
Speaker 1: I'll turn it off.
Speaker 2: And that's the idea.
Speaker 1: So that's the idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So disrupted sleep is one I strain. I
Speaker 2: definitely feel this. My eyes get super dry. I'm looking
Speaker 2: at my phone for a long time. Ry, Ye're dry,
Speaker 2: like because I'm just staring, and especially if I'm editing videos,
Speaker 2: I notice it. My eyes get quite exhausted. I'm also
Speaker 2: supposed to wear glasses, so I try to sometimes wear
Speaker 2: my glasses and it stops with the eyestrain. But ice
Speaker 2: train is a big one. Headaches, which also relates to
Speaker 2: ice train because you can get migraine headaches.
Speaker 1: My phone for too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like behind the eyeball headaches so annoying. And
Speaker 2: also when your vision starts to go blurry from a migraine,
Speaker 2: that's like the worst feeling. Have you ever had a
Speaker 2: migraine where your vision goes blurry on touch wood and.
Speaker 1: Watch me have one tomorrow. Not that I can remember
Speaker 1: for a long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to get them really badly, and it's
Speaker 2: it's so scary because your vision starts to go and
Speaker 2: then you know, like within hour, you need to be
Speaker 2: in a dark room in bed. I remember it happened
Speaker 2: to me once in Barron Bay and I just checked
Speaker 2: out of my hotel and I was walking. I think
Speaker 2: I had like three hours until my flight, and I
Speaker 2: was just gonna explore the town. Oh no, go shopping,
Speaker 2: and my vision started to go. And luckily I was
Speaker 2: in Barron Bay. So I went to this real hippie
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was, but this woman, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm getting a migraine. She did all
Speaker 2: this natural remedy kind of things. It didn't really help
Speaker 2: that much, but the fact that I was lying on
Speaker 2: a bed definitely was helpful in some ways.
Speaker 1: Another one Anna is, as I sit up in my
Speaker 1: seat properly, poor posture.
Speaker 2: Watch us all sit up straight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone listening to this as well, Ione will sit
Speaker 1: up straight because yeah, you're hunched over on your phone,
Speaker 1: doom scrolling I can see why that would be saw neck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anxiety and stress, particularly for the younger generation, when
Speaker 2: you're on your phone, you know, when you're consuming just
Speaker 2: so much information and you just get so overwhelmed and
Speaker 2: anxious and the only way to help you feel better
Speaker 2: is to put your phone away, but you're so addicted
Speaker 2: that you just continue to doom scroll or well.
Speaker 1: I remember I read something and it said if the
Speaker 1: first thing you do when you wake up is look
Speaker 1: at your phone, that's your first dopamine hit. So they
Speaker 1: recommend to go an hour when you wake up without
Speaker 1: checking your phone, which I need to get better right now.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's just so hard because if you
Speaker 2: have a business, the first thing you're doing is checking emails.
Speaker 1: It's very hard, Yeah, because you wake up and you've
Speaker 1: got to see what's going on. Where As I think
Speaker 1: that I'm going to try now, and it's hard because
Speaker 1: you go to the gym, so when I wake up,
Speaker 1: I go for a walk or a gym, so then
Speaker 1: like you're on your phone then to pick music and
Speaker 1: that so it's hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like, okay, so how you know
Speaker 2: you're addicted to your phone, which I'm going to just
Speaker 2: put my hand up and say I'm addicted to my phone.
Speaker 1: Like I said, first step submitting it.
Speaker 2: Do you want to say anything?
Speaker 1: Or oh, my name is Matthew and I am addicted
Speaker 1: to my phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I think, I think we all are.
Speaker 2: But signs that you're very addicted constantly checking your phone,
Speaker 2: especially when you wake up in the morning, first thing
Speaker 2: in the morning, you're checking it excess screen time.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you how I knew I was addicted. The
Speaker 1: plane on the way down didn't have Wi Fi, and
Speaker 1: I was just like I had downloaded movies before and
Speaker 1: I had a book, and I still was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to go on.
Speaker 2: TikTok, but that's a luxury.
Speaker 1: Like I have to say, listen to me, this is
Speaker 1: the first world. Probably I don't really go.
Speaker 2: On Wi Fi on an aeroplane, Like I just accept
Speaker 2: that I don't have Wi Fi anxiety without a phone.
Speaker 2: So actually, if your phone battery dies and then you
Speaker 2: get this deep level of anxiety, another telltale sign you're
Speaker 2: addicted and prioritizing phones over real life interactions. I really
Speaker 2: am going to make a pact and a resolution. It's
Speaker 2: not January but February resolution to be on my phone
Speaker 2: a lot less, because I definitely think that I have accidentally,
Speaker 2: especially if you're working and then you just like quickly
Speaker 2: head to Instagram or something, and then you know, last night,
Speaker 2: for example, Michael was like, I'm sick of watching TV.
Speaker 2: I'm sick of watching We were watching Maths and he's like,
Speaker 2: I'm sick of watching Maths and like being on our phones. Like,
Speaker 2: let's go for a beach walk. We went for a
Speaker 2: beach walk. So nice. I'll always remember that, But you
Speaker 2: don't remember those times when you're sitting side by side
Speaker 2: on your phone.
Speaker 1: That happens a lot more than I care to.
Speaker 2: But I think it's just something that you need to
Speaker 2: actively say to yourself I'm not going to do.
Speaker 1: Do you ever scroll together?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Previously we'd scrolled TikTok together, Yeah, because we'd be like
Speaker 1: sitting next to time me, I'll just make this one,
Speaker 1: so we'd sit there and scroll together.
Speaker 2: Do you know what it's called when you are with
Speaker 2: your partner and you feel like your partner is on
Speaker 2: their phone and then you're just kind of like sitting
Speaker 2: there like it.
Speaker 1: Has a name for it.
Speaker 2: There's a name.
Speaker 1: What's it called?
Speaker 2: It's called thubbing, fubbing, Yeah, like you've been fubbed off
Speaker 2: by your partner.
Speaker 1: That's funny. I'm going to use that. I know that
Speaker 1: there's like the tiktoks that go around and it's like
Speaker 1: my wife or my girlfriend once she puts down her
Speaker 1: phone for one second and then just like cracks it
Speaker 1: at you because you're still on it and she's done.
Speaker 1: Is that you? Is that you with Michael?
Speaker 2: No, But I would say that when I go out
Speaker 2: to dinner or lunch or if I'm with people, I
Speaker 2: try not to be on my phone, right because it
Speaker 2: actually is really annoying if you're with someone and they're
Speaker 2: constantly on their phone and constantly.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's just manners. Though it is.
Speaker 2: It is, but a lot of people don't have good
Speaker 2: manners when it comes to phone etiquette. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: think it's really important to be really conscious and hyper
Speaker 2: aware of your surroundings and like, of course, sometimes people
Speaker 2: might have important me or people that they need to
Speaker 2: be talking to, but majority of the time you need
Speaker 2: to be putting the phone away. And twenty five percent
Speaker 2: of people in married couples and forty two percent of
Speaker 2: unmarried couples in serious relationships do report feeling distracted by
Speaker 2: their partner's phone us, so they feel a bit fubbed us.
Speaker 1: So what we're trying to say, guys is, yes, we
Speaker 1: are in the digital age where it is very easy
Speaker 1: to get consumed and lost in your phone and to
Speaker 1: make your partner feel neglected. And what the word we've learned.
Speaker 2: Is fubbing, fubbing, fobbing, fubbing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fubbing, fubbing your partner off. Let's be conscious of
Speaker 1: that and work on that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm going to make a real effort to be
Speaker 2: on my phone a lot less. I'm going to tell
Speaker 2: Michael to do the same thing, and hopefully we can
Speaker 2: all live a happier and peaceful and less stress life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, want to hear from you as always. So
Speaker 1: if you've taken this and you've gone hang on, I'm
Speaker 1: fubbing my partner off, and you change it, let us know.
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Speaker 2: Okay, guys, until next time, See ye