Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to a special edition Aboutsiders, as
Speaker 1: the US military celebrates two hundred and fifty years of service.
Speaker 1: That parade happening right now in Washington, DC, as No
Speaker 1: King protests against Donald Trump take place across the United States.
Speaker 1: I'm Rita Panahee, joined as always on Outsiders by James
Speaker 1: Morrow and Caroline Marcus filling in today for Rowan Dean.
Speaker 1: We've got a massive show ahead. We'll be staying across
Speaker 1: those protests in the US as well as the unfolding
Speaker 1: situation in the Middle East. But now it's time for
Speaker 1: Outsiders News. Oh gang, We've got to start. In the
Speaker 1: Middle East, people are saying World War III is upon us.
Speaker 1: I think that's a bit of hyperbole, James.
Speaker 2: I think it's a lot of hyperbole.
Speaker 3: But we have seen in the last forty eighth seventy
Speaker 3: two hours, of course, this real conflict kickoff now between
Speaker 3: Iran and Israel. Just the background to those, of course,
Speaker 3: is that Israel says, and in fact, actually the International
Speaker 3: Topic Energy Agency said the same thing too, that Iran
Speaker 3: was really close to breaking out on its comic energy ambitions.
Speaker 3: Israel struck first, they struck hard. They decapitated the Iranian
Speaker 3: Revolutionary Guard core, which is massive. Now Iran has been
Speaker 3: trying to hit back in the last few hours. Now
Speaker 3: they've attempted to send more missiles in towards Israel.
Speaker 2: They've caused some damage.
Speaker 3: They've also targeted, I'm told, a plant in Haifa that
Speaker 3: refines jet fuel for Israel. Now, if they've done that,
Speaker 3: then this means that they are trying to take this
Speaker 3: conflict to a whole new level. I think the push
Speaker 3: now on Israel is simply they want to create regime
Speaker 3: change in Iran. They want to get to the point
Speaker 3: now where the Mullahs are forced to flee the country
Speaker 3: to Russia or someplace else or surrender because they see
Speaker 3: Iran now as an existential threat. And the other thing too,
Speaker 3: Here is fascinating the diplomacy between Donald Trump Benjamin Now
Speaker 3: who ended this whole conflict because of course they kind
Speaker 3: of faked out the Iranians who thought, oh, Israel's not
Speaker 3: going to attack. Donald Trump doesn't want them to attack.
Speaker 3: Well they did, and here we are.
Speaker 1: It is going to be a fascinating situation.
Speaker 4: Caroline.
Speaker 1: Is this a project to essentially end Iran's nuclear ambitions
Speaker 1: or is the goal really greater than that. Is this
Speaker 1: about regime change in Iran. I think it's both.
Speaker 5: I mean, clearly, it's about stopping the immediate threash of
Speaker 5: a nuclear attack, because, as Benjamin Nattanya who has pointed out,
Speaker 5: Iran has enriched enough uranium for nine atomic bombs, and
Speaker 5: it was just a couple of steps away, possibly months
Speaker 5: away from being able to have nuclear weapons. That is
Speaker 5: a thread not just to Israel, which is obviously on
Speaker 5: the front line here, but the rest of the world,
Speaker 5: and obviously in that will be a regime change, which
Speaker 5: we should point out is being celebrated by the people.
Speaker 4: Of Iran, who do not on the whole like this,
Speaker 4: like that leaders. This is a scene. This is being
Speaker 4: celebrated there.
Speaker 5: People are happy, they're having parties and dancing.
Speaker 1: But there's a real danger here, Caroline, because if the
Speaker 1: Israelis are overplay their hand, you could say, and we
Speaker 1: see those civilian casualties increase, I think you'll see the
Speaker 1: Iranian people, even the ones who are very anti regime,
Speaker 1: change their point of view. They don't want to see
Speaker 1: their own people slaughtered. So it is a really fine
Speaker 1: balancing act act for Israel. But it's also fine balancing
Speaker 1: act for Donald Trump. He's always been about strength, peace
Speaker 1: through strength, and he's also knows that his voters don't
Speaker 1: want to have another big conflict that America is at
Speaker 1: the heart of. So how does he balance the America
Speaker 1: first approach with getting rid of Iran's nuclear ambitions and
Speaker 1: perhaps the regime because it is a danger to the US,
Speaker 1: not just to Israel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's really interesting.
Speaker 3: A few hours ago a quote dropped in The Atlantic
Speaker 3: magazine where President Donald Trump, and by the way, isn't
Speaker 3: it great now to have a president who can just
Speaker 3: pick up the phone and talk to journalists and talk
Speaker 3: to reporters and tell them what's going on and what
Speaker 3: he's thinking of He told the Atlantic he said, basically,
Speaker 3: you know, he respects everybody who wants to see peace,
Speaker 3: but he said, also, peace does not exist. You can't
Speaker 3: have peace if Iran has an atomic bomb. And I
Speaker 3: think that's exactly right. You will note, by the way, also,
Speaker 3: and everything you say read is correct, but also you
Speaker 3: would note that there's been absolutely no opposition to Israel's
Speaker 3: actions across the wider Sunni Middle East, right, So, I mean, you.
Speaker 1: Know, there is plenty though around the world. You got Franz.
Speaker 3: Still, well, you've got but France. But France is not
Speaker 3: fully suity yet. Okay, so let's let's just keep that
Speaker 3: in mind. But you know, traditionally, oh, the Arabs tree
Speaker 3: would have been furious about Israel. They would have been
Speaker 3: death to the you know, death to Israel for attacking
Speaker 3: the Muslim world. No, they have the backs of Israel
Speaker 3: and Saudi is everybody else is very close to normalization.
Speaker 3: Nobody in the area wants to see a nuclear Iran.
Speaker 3: It is not just the Israelis. So that's point one.
Speaker 3: Point number two here Donald Trump, as you say, you know,
Speaker 3: especially the jen z Maga contingent, they really do not
Speaker 3: want to see any foreign wars. And I think he
Speaker 3: gets this. He wants to end this sooner rather than later.
Speaker 3: But you know, on the third thing, this whole regime
Speaker 3: change issue, well remember this goes back to the Obama administration.
Speaker 3: You remember when they were all of the protests and
Speaker 3: massive you know, civil unrest and Iran and Obama for
Speaker 3: all of us talk about, you know, loving democracy and
Speaker 3: loving the people and all of this sort of thing.
Speaker 3: He basically said, their Radians go for your life. Because
Speaker 3: of course Bed Rhoads and helped him architect that original
Speaker 3: nuclear plan, which is what we're now seeing the end
Speaker 3: game of playing out. So a lot of this goes
Speaker 3: back to Barack Obama and his fecklessness in running the
Speaker 3: Middle East. As to what comes next, well, you know, look,
Speaker 3: I don't know about you a Personally, I'd love to
Speaker 3: see the Shah come back. But you know, let's also
Speaker 3: remember that the reason why we have this regime here
Speaker 3: is that after the Shah was deposed in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 3: all these Western liberals thought, oh, it's going to be
Speaker 3: wonderful to have this new liberal regime, and then the
Speaker 3: Mallers came in and took over. After the liberal regime
Speaker 3: was there for about thirty five seconds.
Speaker 1: We've had more than forty years now of the Muller's
Speaker 1: these limits ruling Iran. And as you said, Caroline, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of Iranian people who would love to see
Speaker 1: Iran return to its former glory, being relatively modern, secular,
Speaker 1: successful nation. I think we're still a long way from that.
Speaker 1: But let's here from Benjamin Nettanyahu. Here he's talking about
Speaker 1: but appealing to the US, telling them essentially, our enemy
Speaker 1: is your enemy.
Speaker 6: They've tried to assassinate President Trump twice. They have bombed
Speaker 6: American embassies. They killed two hundred and forty one Marines
Speaker 6: in Beirut, they killed and injured thousands of Americans where
Speaker 6: their ied is in Iraq and Afghanistan. They burn the
Speaker 6: American flag, they chant endlessly death to America. Our enemy
Speaker 6: is your enemy. And by doing what we're doing, we're
Speaker 6: dealing with something that will threaten all of us.
Speaker 1: And then on the other hand, we have the Democrats
Speaker 1: ratherless leaderless, increasingly led by the most radical elements within
Speaker 1: the party, Bernie Sanders AOC and Tim Walls, the man
Speaker 1: was going to be vice president, Well, he's got an
Speaker 1: idea of who could possibly mediate a piece still.
Speaker 7: Now, who is the voice in the world that can
Speaker 7: negotiate some type of agreement in this Who holds the
Speaker 7: moral authority, who holds the ability to do that? Because
Speaker 7: we are not seen as a neutral actor, and we
Speaker 7: maybe never were. I don't want to tell anybody that.
Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of people say you always
Speaker 7: leaned one way in this, but I think there was
Speaker 7: at least an attempt to be somewhat of the arbitrator
Speaker 7: in this. We saw President Carter do it with Began
Speaker 7: and Saadat. We've had certain wins along the way that
Speaker 7: we're actually mutually beneficial both ways. Now I ask who
Speaker 7: that is, and I mean consistently, over and over again,
Speaker 7: we're going to have to face the reality it might
Speaker 7: be the Chinese.
Speaker 1: Excuse what moral authority the China giants take me through this?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, there's so much wrong in what Tim
Speaker 3: Woltz just said there. I mean, first of all, for
Speaker 3: him to mention Carter. Carter's the gy who the Iranian
Speaker 3: revolution fell. It was the one to let the Shaw
Speaker 3: fall and missed all the intelligence and everything else. That
Speaker 3: was a disaster, So we lost that. But the Chinese
Speaker 3: being the neutral actors here, I mean China, Oh, China,
Speaker 3: the selfless, selfless global humanitarian Jijin Pi, He's going to
Speaker 3: be the one to sort out this conflict. Look, let
Speaker 3: me tell you something here. This basically, this plan that
Speaker 3: Tim wolts had, this is entirely predictable because guess what
Speaker 3: when he was running for vice president during that hilarious
Speaker 3: you know, eighty seven days or whatever he was doing that,
Speaker 3: remember when it came out, all of the stuff that
Speaker 3: came out about Tim Waltz and China, how much time
Speaker 3: he'd spent in China, the number of trips he'd been
Speaker 3: there as an English teacher, his sympathies to the Chinese government. Well,
Speaker 3: you know what, we're seeing that right now. We are
Speaker 3: so lucky that the Harris Waltz team didn't come in
Speaker 3: because they would be abdicating their authority right now to Beijing,
Speaker 3: rather than asserting American authority, which I think is what
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is trying to do here.
Speaker 5: It's absolutely delusional, Like China is part of this action
Speaker 5: of evil. Basically, it is anti America. It tries to
Speaker 5: sow as much discord as it can in American We're
Speaker 5: expecting it to be able to make peace in the
Speaker 5: Middle East when it's in Chinese interest to have as
Speaker 5: much division as possible.
Speaker 3: And we see and we see like over and over
Speaker 3: in bon and geopolitics, when we talk about we talk
Speaker 3: about the bricks countries. What are three of those countries? Russia,
Speaker 3: Iran and China. Like these three countries are tied up
Speaker 3: completely in an anti Western alliance. The idea that you
Speaker 3: would even bring China to the table on that is insane,
Speaker 3: It is nuts.
Speaker 2: It is bonkers.
Speaker 3: Tim Waltz is, I'm sorry to say he is just
Speaker 3: so stupid. I mean, it's just the ignorance and that
Speaker 3: he would go out and say that and not be
Speaker 3: laughed at by whoever was.
Speaker 2: Interviewing him there. I mean, whoever is interviewing them.
Speaker 3: If they didn't in the next second pull him up,
Speaker 3: they should quit their jobs too.
Speaker 1: They should. This is a man who wanted to be
Speaker 1: vice president, who has ambitions to be President Caroline, and
Speaker 1: really is best known for putting tampon in boys restrooms
Speaker 1: across his state. That's earning the Nicknact team, and really
Speaker 1: maybe that's the area he should stick to instead of geopolitics,
Speaker 1: because this is embarrassing work. Meanwhile, let's hear from Defense
Speaker 1: Secretary Pitt Hegxeth saying that Donald Trump was very much
Speaker 1: informed of what it was about to happen.
Speaker 8: Where can people be can be assured that President Trump
Speaker 8: is dialed in. This is not an auto pen moment.
Speaker 8: You know, we had that where the world saw our
Speaker 8: gaze distracted or not paying attention at all. President Trump's
Speaker 8: dialed in. I get to see it every single day.
Speaker 8: He knows every single dynamic of what's going on here,
Speaker 8: and I'll tell you what he's doing, Rachel. He's put
Speaker 8: in America first, and you understand, hey, how many factors
Speaker 8: there are, how many dynamics there are in the world.
Speaker 8: But his his directive to me and to the Chairman
Speaker 8: of Joint Chiefs and throughout our forces, hey, make sure
Speaker 8: you are robustly postured and prepared, and we are.
Speaker 1: Well. It's very different to this time last year with
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. This was happening under Joe Biden. We wouldn't
Speaker 1: even know who's pulling the strings, who's making the calls.
Speaker 1: What a what a great changing government really and at
Speaker 1: a very critical juncture in what's happening in the middle eighties.
Speaker 3: And I mean any sort of sense that people have
Speaker 3: and I know this is a line that's going around
Speaker 3: here that oh, you know, the White House was kept
Speaker 3: out of the loop, that is relacted independently here. You
Speaker 3: know that is completely untrue. There's been so much contact
Speaker 3: between both governments here, and in essence, it was almost
Speaker 3: sort of a headfake on the on the Iranian government,
Speaker 3: on the Mullows to say, well, you know, the US
Speaker 3: is going to hold Israel back, so you know, don't
Speaker 3: you have to worry about that, but you have to
Speaker 3: come to the table. And then they didn't come to
Speaker 3: the table. Remember, sixty two days before the strikes, Donald
Speaker 3: Trump put very clear message out there, you've got two months,
Speaker 3: You've got sixty days to come back to the table
Speaker 3: on a nuclear deal.
Speaker 2: Iran went the other way.
Speaker 3: They tried to break out their nuclear program, and on
Speaker 3: day sixty two, you know what they found out.
Speaker 1: They found out they were missing around and they found out.
Speaker 5: But this way, America goes to keep its hands sort
Speaker 5: of clean and say we weren't involved in this directly.
Speaker 4: Obviously, this is the Israelis during the strikes.
Speaker 5: However, if you hit a single one of our US
Speaker 5: military targets or people, we will come after you.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing I mean, it would be you know,
Speaker 3: there are some people, including someone the right, who are like,
Speaker 3: oh no, this is going to be a disaster. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be this whole huge middies war because Iran is
Speaker 3: going to start, you know, hitting American troops at American bases. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, that would be if you want to talk
Speaker 3: about regime change and you want to talk with the
Speaker 3: end of the Iranian regime, that would be the surest
Speaker 3: way to guarantee that.
Speaker 1: I don't even think the mad Mullers are that mad.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be hitting American targets.
Speaker 1: Knowing Donald Trump is the president, you just would not
Speaker 1: take that chance.
Speaker 3: You remember when you remember when Trump, you know, took
Speaker 3: out Solemoni after there were attacks on American was going
Speaker 3: to start the constructed. But again, you know, there was
Speaker 3: a very quick action reaction consequence, you know, and that
Speaker 3: pattern has been set up whenever Trump's at the White House.
Speaker 1: But the israelis that the planning that went is astonishing.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the years of planning, Mossad agents in
Speaker 1: Iran setting everything into motion, just all the different parts.
Speaker 1: I've been reading so much about this in the last
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, Caroline. It's like the fascinating.
Speaker 5: The pager attack hes blah, they your attack on steps,
Speaker 5: I mean on steroids. I mean they had, as you say,
Speaker 5: moss Side agents in Tehran reportedly, Oh yes, that's why
Speaker 5: they really raining footage of them setting up these drones
Speaker 5: and uh, these missile attacks to hit the targets.
Speaker 4: I mean the attacks have.
Speaker 5: Been so far there have been some children killed, sadly
Speaker 5: round but they have been very precise, like laser focus,
Speaker 5: to the point where sometimes it's an entire building, it's
Speaker 5: just one unit in that building that contains someone from
Speaker 5: the revolutionary gods, someone high up. Compare that to the
Speaker 5: attacks in Israel. I mean they are indiscriminate. I mean,
Speaker 5: we've heard of one target that they may have hit,
Speaker 5: but other than that, it's residential areas, highly populated. For
Speaker 5: people have already been killed, many wounded. So it is
Speaker 5: a very different type of tit for tat.
Speaker 1: Now let's move on to the protests in the US.
Speaker 1: They started off in la and they have spread to
Speaker 1: other parts of the country, and James have got this
Speaker 1: No King's protest coming up. I mean, really, it might
Speaker 1: be a sign that you don't live in a dictatorship
Speaker 1: when you can have these protests where you're free to
Speaker 1: say whatever you like about the commander in chief.
Speaker 3: These No Kings, it's called No Kings is the name
Speaker 3: of the protest protests. But of course now we're seeing,
Speaker 3: you know, there's this whole usual laundry list of suspect
Speaker 3: sort of groups that are out there. They back every
Speaker 3: month sort of. We see some protests there in Washington,
Speaker 3: d c you know. But for the most part, I've
Speaker 3: been looking at a lot of footage from around the country.
Speaker 3: Most of them are pretty pathetic. They are pretty to
Speaker 3: be frank geriatric.
Speaker 2: They are very piatric. They don't have the youth.
Speaker 3: But you know, beyond that though, like, this is the
Speaker 3: activist left, and this is the activist left that is
Speaker 3: suddenly deciding that they're great American patriots who believe in
Speaker 3: the American system. I mean, the activists left are the
Speaker 3: people who get the vapors every time they see a
Speaker 3: flag on the Fourth of July.
Speaker 2: They like, oh, that's so tacky, that's nationalism.
Speaker 3: This is the same American left that spent you know,
Speaker 3: years trying to tear down every statue of somebody, you
Speaker 3: know who they didn't like from American history and tried
Speaker 3: to do the whole year zero thing. This is the
Speaker 3: same activist left that treats the Founding Fathers as nothing
Speaker 3: more than white slave owners who need to be humanized
Speaker 3: and exponded from history. This is the same activist left
Speaker 3: that tried to push through all the schools the sixteen
Speaker 3: nineteen project, which said that the founding idea of America
Speaker 3: was not seventeen seventy six and liberty. It was sixteen
Speaker 3: nineteen and slavery, and that that was the real history
Speaker 3: of the United States. The activist left that is behind
Speaker 3: these protests has a great distaste and dislike for freedom
Speaker 3: and the American system. It is not it is not
Speaker 3: Rita and Caroline that they are against Kings. It is
Speaker 3: there against Donald Trump. They do not think Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: you can say he's an authoritarian, except an authoritarian who
Speaker 3: keeps winding up having to abide by judge's decisions, even
Speaker 3: though a lot of these judges' decisions are completely ridiculous.
Speaker 3: These no Kings people, though, they I think if you
Speaker 3: gave them the power, they would be the real authoritarians.
Speaker 3: Because left wing revolutions are never about, oh, we want
Speaker 3: freedom from an authoritarian. The people who organize left wing
Speaker 3: protest movements always want to be the authoritarians themselves because
Speaker 3: they think they know best how to run the world.
Speaker 1: Everything you just said reminds me of the same leftist
Speaker 1: self loath as we have in this country. You think
Speaker 1: we're just all our values and history is something to
Speaker 1: be ashamed of completely. Let's cross now to Jerusalem. We're
Speaker 1: former Labor senator over Paris and Chris roller Baker from
Speaker 1: New South Wales Education are stranded and are hiding at
Speaker 1: a bomb shelter. They both join us now, nov I'll
Speaker 1: start with you. Tell us why you're in Israel and
Speaker 1: what's happening right there on the ground.
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you. We actually have been here for almost
Speaker 9: nine or ten days. I actually came out as I
Speaker 9: was a recipient have won of four global recipients from
Speaker 9: technico On University that had achieved an award for finding
Speaker 9: any Semitism. You know, I do the things that I do.
Speaker 9: I've always thought against all forms of racism, but I've
Speaker 9: done a lot to try and you know, do my
Speaker 9: best as someone who has a profile in Australia to
Speaker 9: to support the Jewish community and bring down the outrageous,
Speaker 9: incredible due hatred but we have here in Australia.
Speaker 5: No, but thank you for all you do as a
Speaker 5: member of that community.
Speaker 4: It's Caroline here.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to ask what is happening right now
Speaker 5: where you are. You're obviously in a bomb shelter. What
Speaker 5: do you know about this latest attack?
Speaker 9: Well, actually I might hand this over to Chris. Chris
Speaker 9: is here, he's one of seven first Nations people that
Speaker 9: are here on a delegation. He's been here with me
Speaker 9: for the past seven days. And actually that's a bomb
Speaker 9: alert that's going off now. We get these alerts quite
Speaker 9: often when we have to seek shelter in the bomb shelter.
Speaker 9: But Chris might want to just talk about your time here.
Speaker 9: It's your first time here to Israel.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's my first time to Israel, and I was
Speaker 10: invited to come over with Nova really to see both
Speaker 10: sides of the conflict. As it turns out, everything's erupted
Speaker 10: a course with Iran. What's happening outside at the moment
Speaker 10: you might be able to hear alarms going off, is
Speaker 10: that they're warning systems and so that tells the local
Speaker 10: population and us the CV of course, that there are
Speaker 10: incoming missiles. Earlier this evening, I saw a series of
Speaker 10: missiles from my balcony. It was in the distance, so
Speaker 10: it wasn't affecting this area and the alarms weren't going off.
Speaker 10: But it's real and it's happening in Iran.
Speaker 2: Is they're bombing civilian areas.
Speaker 10: We can actually hear deep grumblings outside now from the
Speaker 10: bomb shelter that we're in, so We don't know exactly
Speaker 10: what's happening outside, but there are certainly missiles being sent
Speaker 10: through and hopefully they're being taken down by the defense systems.
Speaker 3: Nova and Chris and ask you both this question. Me
Speaker 3: will start with you, Nova, But when you are out
Speaker 3: of the bombshelters, because obviously you know there's plenty of
Speaker 3: times when the area is not under attack, what is
Speaker 3: the mood of the people on the ground. Are the
Speaker 3: people you speak to feeling resilient? Are they supportive of
Speaker 3: keeping the conflict going? Do they understand, you know, the
Speaker 3: why the government's rationalities for pursuing these this campaign against Iran.
Speaker 3: Tell us what you're hearing and seeing and really feeling.
Speaker 3: What's the vival the place?
Speaker 2: Nova, Well, it's it's interesting.
Speaker 9: Like I said, it's my second time now to Israel,
Speaker 9: and you know, the Jewish people they just want peace.
Speaker 9: You know, this is their homeland. You know, there's me
Speaker 9: as a First Nations woman. You know, we how we
Speaker 9: know our connection to land is through archaeological evidence. And
Speaker 9: you know there's undisputable evidence of the Jews connection to
Speaker 9: the land of Israel that dates back four thousand years.
Speaker 1: The Jewish people, you know, living through.
Speaker 9: The diaspora and the exile of every you know, the Babylonians,
Speaker 9: the Romans and the Ottoman empires, and of course we saw,
Speaker 9: you know, the the Holocaust were six million people were killed.
Speaker 9: The Jewish people have come back to their homeland and
Speaker 9: as a first nations women, when you look at what
Speaker 9: decolonization looks like, this is what the Jewish people have done.
Speaker 9: But the Jewish people, you know, their neighbors, they just
Speaker 9: want peace. And people don't actually realize here in the
Speaker 9: Land of Israel, and said it many times, it's the
Speaker 9: third of the size of Tasmania. There's two million Arab
Speaker 9: Israelis that live within Israel, have all the freedoms, and
Speaker 9: then you know what's happening we're seeing now, Chris is
Speaker 9: we've got the West Bank and we've driven several times
Speaker 9: through the West Bank. You know, there's three million Arab
Speaker 9: Palestinians that live there, and you know, the Israeli defense
Speaker 9: system is protecting them and their lives because what we're
Speaker 9: seeing is that the ballistic mistles are targeting civilians right
Speaker 9: across Israel, right across the West.
Speaker 11: Bank, and we are relying on the Iron Dome and what.
Speaker 9: We have seen now is Israel. It's been twenty years
Speaker 9: in the making, you know, for them to attack Iran,
Speaker 9: to actually dismantle their nuclear weapons development, and they are
Speaker 9: doing this on behalf of the world.
Speaker 11: What we know now that they had enough nuclear for
Speaker 11: fifteen nuclear warheads. You know, it's unbelievable and people really
Speaker 11: have to understand the history that the Jewish connection of
Speaker 11: this land.
Speaker 2: But they want peace and you talk about resilience.
Speaker 9: And we spoke to there's about one hundred young Jewish
Speaker 9: people that hear from America and there's one young lad
Speaker 9: he said to me, he said, no, you know, you've
Speaker 9: got little two year olds in bomb shelters, four year
Speaker 9: olds and bomb shelters, and this is the resilience of the.
Speaker 1: Jewish people had to do that.
Speaker 11: You know, the Jewish people love life.
Speaker 9: They are protected. The Israeli government build built bombshelters so
Speaker 9: they can go and protect themselves when you know they're
Speaker 9: fighting wars on several fronts from Hesbala and the Huthis and.
Speaker 1: You know now we're you know, the the Iranian regime.
Speaker 9: So it's incredible to be here to understand the life
Speaker 9: of the Jewish people, but to understand this isn't an apartheid's day.
Speaker 9: They're a democracy in the Middle East and they want
Speaker 9: to be able to live peacefully with their neighbors. And
Speaker 9: we've seen that with Jordan. Jordan have actually shot down,
Speaker 9: you know, the missiles that are also coming from from Iran.
Speaker 9: So you know, they've got a peace treaty with Jordan,
Speaker 9: They've got a peace treaty with Egypt, and this can
Speaker 9: be done. And where will we just a couple of
Speaker 9: days ago when we had a bit of freedom, we
Speaker 9: might want to talk to about Chris, the young Muslim
Speaker 9: man who was a mayor, and you can talk to
Speaker 9: that if you like.
Speaker 3: Where we went that day.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, in terms of answering your question, the
Speaker 10: Jewish people, as Novist are incredibly resilient and despite everything
Speaker 10: they've gone through, and despite everything they're currently going through,
Speaker 10: they still able to manage to hold themselves with dignity
Speaker 10: and hold themselves with pride. The overwhelming theme over last
Speaker 10: ten or more days since I've been here is it's
Speaker 10: the desire and deep wish for peace in the Middle
Speaker 10: East coming from the Israeli people, and the tremendous ability
Speaker 10: for them to be able to forgive and they desperately
Speaker 10: want the war over.
Speaker 2: They desperately want the.
Speaker 10: Palestinians as well as Jewish people to live in this
Speaker 10: area together.
Speaker 1: What we're worn to see is peace. Fantastic insights there.
Speaker 1: We thank you both for your time. Get home safe
Speaker 1: and Oviparis ris Ralla Baker, don't go anywhere. We're having
Speaker 1: a quick break and we've got plenty more, including we're
Speaker 1: going to be crossing to La to speak to Peter Cepanovik,
Speaker 1: who's in the midst of the riots. You're watching Outsiders
Speaker 1: with your host James Morrow, Caroline Marcus filling in for
Speaker 1: Rowan Dean, and I'm Rita Panny and get ready because
Speaker 1: we've got a whole lot of lefty lunacy content coming up.
Speaker 1: But first, this week we saw the end of the
Speaker 1: ABC and Channel ten's flagship current affairs programs. Yes, after
Speaker 1: eighteen years on air, Q and A was axed, and
Speaker 1: so was the pro Dect, which has been on air
Speaker 1: force sixteen years. I'm not sure how we're going to
Speaker 1: cope not having these two insufferable lefty talk fest lecturing
Speaker 1: us on what a terrible races, sexist, heteronormative country Australia
Speaker 1: is will we hear genius analysis like this. Here is
Speaker 1: Tim Flatnery. This is back in twenty eighteen on Q
Speaker 1: and A, which is some casual climate catastrophizing.
Speaker 12: Melbourne with its huge de cell plant, has brought itself
Speaker 12: about a decade of grace of water security. Beyond that,
Speaker 12: things are going to get difficult again. And with the
Speaker 12: impacts of climate change, places like western Sydney are going
Speaker 12: to really start feeling the heat because the heat waves
Speaker 12: are getting longer, hotter, and more frequent. The infrastructure where
Speaker 12: building isn't fit for purpose for that future. And I
Speaker 12: think we're going to struggle.
Speaker 13: I really do.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, that's de cel plant in Melbourne has never
Speaker 1: been actually relied upon for water supplies. It's a big, fat,
Speaker 1: expensive white elephant that should have never been built. A
Speaker 1: new dam would have been much cheaper. But I digress.
Speaker 1: We will not miss Q and A with its climate,
Speaker 1: race and LGBT obsessions, and we certainly will not miss
Speaker 1: TENDS the project, a program that managed to be both
Speaker 1: sanctimonious and vacuous at the same time. It's not a
Speaker 1: good mix. Here is Rover McManus. Well's not only an
Speaker 1: occasional host, but whose company Roving Enterprises produced the program
Speaker 1: for Channel ten. Here he is lecturing Australians about the
Speaker 1: Voice referendum.
Speaker 4: I wrote, Yes, my daughter was there, she got it.
Speaker 4: She's nine.
Speaker 13: She said, I can't believe anyone would vote no to this,
Speaker 13: and that's what breaks my heart.
Speaker 2: What are we doing to ourselves?
Speaker 1: This is a real moment where we can be proud
Speaker 1: and show what a wonderful country.
Speaker 2: This is this whole cliche we like to put out of.
Speaker 2: We love to give everyone a fair go. We're not
Speaker 2: doing this.
Speaker 14: So whichever way you're voting, just please just think about
Speaker 14: what you're doing, think about the repercussions, and.
Speaker 2: Let's just be decent for once.
Speaker 5: Be decent whichever way you of voting.
Speaker 1: Yes, what was I saying about that unpleasant mix of
Speaker 1: sanctimonious and vacuous. That's no example there. Yes, the project
Speaker 1: and Q and A are over. When you know what
Speaker 1: I'm going to miss the most, It's going to be
Speaker 1: these musical interludes.
Speaker 10: My sister.
Speaker 13: Sculpture.
Speaker 1: Yes, Now to the US and the anti Trump, anti
Speaker 1: deportation rights we've seen in LA and they're spreading to
Speaker 1: other parts of the country. President Donald Trump could not
Speaker 1: have hoped for a better advertisement for his policies than
Speaker 1: the violen scenes in LA, with writers attacking law enforcement,
Speaker 1: destroying public and private property, burning the American flag, and
Speaker 1: generally behaving like lawless thugs. The violence became so out
Speaker 1: of control that the Democrat mayor of LA, the thoroughly
Speaker 1: hopeless Karen Bass, went from standing with the pro testers
Speaker 1: imposing a curfew on them. But what is really fascinating
Speaker 1: is the enormous support Donald Trump enjoys from migrants on
Speaker 1: this issue. Yes, despite what the media may tell you,
Speaker 1: the polling consistently shows that the majority of Americans want
Speaker 1: to see every single illegal immigrant deported. And have a
Speaker 1: look at how migrants legal migrants feel about this issue.
Speaker 1: Even CNN had to take a break from its relentless
Speaker 1: anti Trump coverage to report on this.
Speaker 13: Immigrant citizens, immigrant voters, foreign born voters have gone tremendously
Speaker 13: to the right on this issue in twenty twenty four
Speaker 13: and twenty twenty five versus where they were in twenty twenty.
Speaker 13: Closest to her trust war in immigration, you go back
Speaker 13: to twenty twenty, Democrats Get This held a thirty two
Speaker 13: point lead on this issue. Immigrant voters were in the
Speaker 13: Democratic camp. Jump forward to twenty twenty four to twenty
Speaker 13: twenty five. Look at that shift, a forty point shift
Speaker 13: to the right among immigrant voters. Republicans now lead on
Speaker 13: this issue by eight points over Democrats, more so than
Speaker 13: any other group that I could find. The group of
Speaker 13: voters who became more hawkish on immigration were in fact
Speaker 13: immigrants themselves, immigrants who were registered to vote in this country.
Speaker 1: And that has seen immigrant voters shift their votes to
Speaker 1: the Republicans, not just on the issue, on the whole election.
Speaker 1: I wonder if there are any lessons to be learned
Speaker 1: about that from our hapless coalition.
Speaker 13: Again, there is no block of voters that shifted more
Speaker 13: to the right from twenty twenty to twenty twenty four
Speaker 13: than immigrant voters, and Donald Trump, at least in some surveys,
Speaker 13: actually won that vote. On average, it's about equal. So
Speaker 13: there may be all this stuff right about undocumented immigrants
Speaker 13: and Trump being harsh on them, but immigrant voters themselves
Speaker 13: have increasingly liked Donald Trump and have increasingly moved to
Speaker 13: the right on immigration into the Republican camp.
Speaker 1: YEP. The biggest group gravitating to Trump over the illegal
Speaker 1: immigration issue are immigrants in the country legally. You know,
Speaker 1: the ones that actually vote that will, no doubt, shock
Speaker 1: shock political abundans everywhere who have misunderstood the Trump phenomenon
Speaker 1: from the start. They've convinced themselves it was all a
Speaker 1: manifestation of white supremacy rather than a broad coalition that
Speaker 1: has seen the Republican Party enjoy newfound support among migrants,
Speaker 1: particularly Hispanic and Asian voters, and that support on immigration
Speaker 1: policies evident amongst all voters. Take it away, CNN.
Speaker 13: The American electorate believed that the Democrats don't have a
Speaker 13: clue on the issue of immigration. I mean, you could
Speaker 13: just take it here closer to trust more and immigration.
Speaker 13: Democrats versus Republicans. Got three different polls for you across
Speaker 13: the board. They all tell the same story. Republicans lead
Speaker 13: on the issue of immigration. You see it here, CBS
Speaker 13: plus six, You see it here, CNN plus six, you
Speaker 13: see it here, IPSOS even bigger plus nineteen. No matter
Speaker 13: matter what pole you look at, no matter which way
Speaker 13: you cut it, the American.
Speaker 4: Public is with the Republicans.
Speaker 13: The American public is with Donald Trump, and to a
Speaker 13: much greater extent than they were in term number one.
Speaker 13: And it's not just on the broad issue of immigration,
Speaker 13: it's on the specifics as well in which the American
Speaker 13: public is with Donald Trump and the Republicans. And that
Speaker 13: is why Donald Trump is eager to take on this
Speaker 13: fight that.
Speaker 1: Would have hurt CNN having to report that. Meanwhile, you
Speaker 1: have the Democrats doubling down on the lunacy standing with
Speaker 1: the illegal immigrants they allowed to flood into the country
Speaker 1: more than two million a year under Joe Biden's administration,
Speaker 1: and many Democrats continue to blame Donald Trump for the
Speaker 1: violence of their left to supporters, or in the case
Speaker 1: of Democrat Congresswoman Maxine Waters, they deny there is any violence.
Speaker 1: Who are you going to believe you're lying eyes or Maxine?
Speaker 15: Didn't I create any violence. No batter was shot, no
Speaker 15: batter was killed. Get it in your head. And so
Speaker 15: when martial law is called, what are you going to
Speaker 15: say to point, don't miss the pot you are. Don't
Speaker 15: think that somehow because they called out the National Guide,
Speaker 15: there was value, There was no valid.
Speaker 1: The truth is that President Donald Trump has a clear
Speaker 1: mandate to implement his deportation program, and the more the
Speaker 1: Democrats resist, the more they harm their standing among voters.
Speaker 1: We cross now to Los Angeles with our Sky News
Speaker 1: colleague Pete Stepanovic. He's alive on the ground. Pete, tell
Speaker 1: us what's happening this protest behind you? Are they mostly peaceful.
Speaker 2: Boding ready?
Speaker 14: Yeah, they have been, to be honest with you, I mean,
Speaker 14: the protest itself has been closed or it ended a
Speaker 14: couple of hours ago now, but there are stragglers, if
Speaker 14: we want to use that term. It was pretty busy here.
Speaker 14: I've got to say throughout most of the protests. I mean,
Speaker 14: they would been tens of thousands of people at the
Speaker 14: height of it, and they were crowded out the front
Speaker 14: of the City Hall, which is where we are at
Speaker 14: the moment, and.
Speaker 2: They kind of snaked out of that.
Speaker 14: It was so many people that went through the city
Speaker 14: streets and flooded it and virtually locked it down. Trafvick
Speaker 14: couldn't move anywhere. But right now, crowds have dwindled quite
Speaker 14: a bit. You've got a few thousands still here, but
Speaker 14: we'll give you a better look at how things are
Speaker 14: at the moment. There's still a lot of people, a
Speaker 14: few thousand, but much.
Speaker 1: Less than there were a little earlier.
Speaker 2: Pee But for the most part, it has been.
Speaker 14: It has been peaceful, yep R.
Speaker 1: But I'm just noticing right behind you the number of
Speaker 1: Mexican flags, the American flag. Some of them I'm seeing
Speaker 1: have got graffiti on them. One was upside down. Tell
Speaker 1: me about that, because that, to me seems to be
Speaker 1: very ill advised, a bit of activism from the Democrats there,
Speaker 1: to be desecrating the American flag and proudly flying the
Speaker 1: flags of other countries.
Speaker 14: Not only that, but also offensive to the military. I
Speaker 14: would have thought, as is the case, whenever anybody flies
Speaker 14: an American flag that's upside down, that's certainly the case.
Speaker 2: But there's all kinds of different flags.
Speaker 14: You got Mexican flag, You've got the American flag, and
Speaker 14: like you pointed out there, the American flag being upside down.
Speaker 14: You've got flags that have been blended with the California
Speaker 14: Republic flag too, and then you've got, you know, all
Speaker 14: the signs that people are doing, you know, with all
Speaker 14: kinds of profanities on them. And then what you might
Speaker 14: not be able to see or maybe you can. I mean,
Speaker 14: there's part of it on the wall there out in
Speaker 14: the front of city Hall. There's graffiti, because graffiti is
Speaker 14: everywhere around this town at the moment.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've been with.
Speaker 14: The protesters for a few days now, and even during
Speaker 14: those protests and parades and marches a few days ago,
Speaker 14: you see you'd see kids who are masked and they
Speaker 14: just pull out some cans of spray paint and away
Speaker 14: they go. They either tag a building or you.
Speaker 2: Know, say the F Trumps or whatever.
Speaker 14: That that kind of graffed is absolutely everywhere across downtown
Speaker 14: in La at the moment.
Speaker 2: I want to move on to another topic.
Speaker 3: We've had this breaking story out of Minnesota where two
Speaker 3: legislators have been shot, one of them fatally.
Speaker 2: They were a married couple. What is the latest on this.
Speaker 3: You've had Melissa Hortman who has killed her husband John Hoffman,
Speaker 3: I believe seriously injured. There's a suspect at this point,
Speaker 3: just a suspect called Vance Bolter. What do we know
Speaker 3: about this person? Because I'm understanding that this person also
Speaker 3: has links to the Democrat Governor Tim Waltz sat on
Speaker 3: a board of some sort with one.
Speaker 2: Of his victims, alleged victims. What more do we know
Speaker 2: about this? Because I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: People are making a big deal about the fact that
Speaker 3: these were Democrats who were shot as an act of
Speaker 3: political violence, which is inexcusable. But they're saying a little
Speaker 3: bit less about the person who is alleged to have
Speaker 3: pulled the trigger on who the FBI has a fifty
Speaker 3: thousand dollars reward out to find.
Speaker 14: Well, they're still trying to work out a bit more
Speaker 14: about him, but the details that we've been able to
Speaker 14: get so far. And just while I'm answering that there
Speaker 14: is a loud noise going on here with all of
Speaker 14: the LAPD cars and sirens that are blazing, we heard
Speaker 14: some bangs a little earlier before you came to us
Speaker 14: as well, and they sounds similar to the flash grenades
Speaker 14: that have been used, So maybe police are just trying
Speaker 14: to move crowds on. Anyway, back to your point there, James,
Speaker 14: So they're working out a bit more about him. It
Speaker 14: looks as though he was running a security business, so
Speaker 14: he would have had fairly easy access to police uniforms.
Speaker 2: I would have thought.
Speaker 14: There is also the police car that a lot of
Speaker 14: people thought was a police car, but it was a
Speaker 14: security vehicle that was dressed up to be a police car.
Speaker 14: So I mean, if somebody like that turns up to
Speaker 14: your house and wants you to open the door. I
Speaker 14: guess you would presume that you would open the door
Speaker 14: thinking they were an actual police officer. But on Tim Walls,
Speaker 14: you make a good point there because there is video
Speaker 14: that's that's doing the rounds at the moment. If Tim
Speaker 14: Walls basically saying that Democrats have to get MINA, They've
Speaker 14: got to get MINA and MINA. And this was only
Speaker 14: a couple of weeks ago that he said this on
Speaker 14: a stage while he was campaigning against Trump and Trump's policies,
Speaker 14: and so you know, has that whipped up his supporters.
Speaker 14: A lot of people are pressing him on that now,
Speaker 14: thinking that more maybe he did.
Speaker 3: And Pete, we also have learned that one of the
Speaker 3: two voted against a provision to allow the continuation of
Speaker 3: healthcare to illegal immigrants in Minnesota. I think we have
Speaker 3: a little bit of that. We have a look at that,
Speaker 3: so we don't have that grab. Oh, we certainly, let's
Speaker 3: just have a look at this here, Pete.
Speaker 1: I know that people will be hurt by that vote,
Speaker 1: and I'm we worked very hard to try to get
Speaker 1: a budget deal.
Speaker 4: That wouldn't include that provision.
Speaker 3: So that was one of the two vis it was
Speaker 3: here talking about this provision that they voted against giving
Speaker 3: healthcare to illegal She looked quite sort of very upset
Speaker 3: and shaken about that vote. And I'm just wondering, given
Speaker 3: that there's been also some talk that the shooter had
Speaker 3: no King's material with him and so on, that this
Speaker 3: could be we don't know yet, but something that may
Speaker 3: be coming from a more radical faction of the left.
Speaker 3: We don't know yet, obviously, and it's all alleged and
Speaker 3: it all has to be investigated.
Speaker 14: But what do you know, Pete, Well, I mean, I
Speaker 14: just think with all of that said, and obviously more
Speaker 14: will be revealed in the coming hours and the coming
Speaker 14: days too, but I just feel like it's probably points
Speaker 14: like you said, they're to the factions with the Democrats
Speaker 14: at the moment, they.
Speaker 2: Don't know which way to go.
Speaker 14: So you've got the extreme left flank of the Democrats,
Speaker 14: and then you've got the other flank of the Democrats
Speaker 14: at the moment at war because they don't really know
Speaker 14: how to take on Donald Trump, donald Trump's policies and
Speaker 14: the rise of the Republicans.
Speaker 16: And it wasn't that long ago, James.
Speaker 14: Was it that we had the election, and it just
Speaker 14: pointed to a landslide win for the Republicans. So again
Speaker 14: it just points to the Democrats being all at sea.
Speaker 14: But you know what's been interesting over the past couple
Speaker 14: of days or so. I mean, people are pointing now
Speaker 14: towards with this story here in California, people are pointing
Speaker 14: towards Gavin Newsom and his term runs out next year,
Speaker 14: his second term, and I think it's fairly obvious that
Speaker 14: he's readying himself for another charge of the presidency in
Speaker 14: three years from now because he's been trying to move
Speaker 14: his position more to the center from that progressive flank
Speaker 14: of the Democrats by having a podcast and talking to
Speaker 14: more right wing figures and taking more conservative stances on
Speaker 14: social issues. I'm pretty sure he's going to get he's
Speaker 14: getting himself ready for a run to possibly try and
Speaker 14: lead the Democrats.
Speaker 10: Pee.
Speaker 5: What are we expecting for the rest of the day. Obviously,
Speaker 5: it's the military parade. It's also Donald Trump's birthday, so
Speaker 5: big crowds expected a wing expect any trouble.
Speaker 2: They hope not. But this is how things emerge like.
Speaker 14: It starts out peaceful, and I got to say, there
Speaker 14: was a huge crowds, probably more than anyone expected at
Speaker 14: this particular protest today, the no King's protest, which is
Speaker 14: an odd term in itself because as Donald Trump pointed
Speaker 14: out this week, he's not a king, he's a president.
Speaker 14: But I mean, there are police around, but they're just
Speaker 14: heavily outnumbered.
Speaker 2: And I have to say that police have.
Speaker 14: So I won't even try and get over the top
Speaker 14: of that at the moment.
Speaker 2: So that's part of what's going on at the moment.
Speaker 14: So it's it's pretty noisy stuff. But I've got to
Speaker 14: tell you, the police have been fairly compliant with these
Speaker 14: protesters today.
Speaker 1: They've allowed a lot.
Speaker 16: To go on.
Speaker 14: But there will come a point when a lot of
Speaker 14: people here have got to be cleared out because curfew
Speaker 14: will still be in place in a couple of hours time,
Speaker 14: so things could change then.
Speaker 1: Just Pete Stefanobink, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 1: I've got to say, just watching that, watching those American
Speaker 1: flags upside down as the country honors the military two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years of service. The military is a
Speaker 1: year younger than the country because the military had to
Speaker 1: actually fight to make the country be a reality. So
Speaker 1: to America's two hundred and fifty anniversary. Well, next year
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: It's going to be huge. It's going to be absolutely massive.
Speaker 2: But you know, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: We've got all these people suddenly draping themselves in the
Speaker 3: mantle of seventeen seventy six. Bernie Sanders earlier, just a
Speaker 3: few hours ago, tweeted about, how, hey, you know we
Speaker 3: over threw a tyrant once, we can do it again.
Speaker 2: Is he actually calling for revolution?
Speaker 1: Is this what the sounds very insurrection?
Speaker 3: Yeah, a bit like Bernie Bernie bro is going to
Speaker 3: maybe he's going to put the hat on with the
Speaker 3: big you know, horns on it and do an insurrection. Look,
Speaker 3: but the other thing too, is again, Rita, I'm so
Speaker 3: glad you picked up on that. With those flags. We
Speaker 3: saw the Alsauadoran flag, we saw the Mexican flag there.
Speaker 3: This is not the message to send to Middle America.
Speaker 3: This is a message that you said. If you're saying
Speaker 3: you want to colonize, you want to take this area
Speaker 3: of California, which you know, we see people like the
Speaker 3: Senate President of Mexico say that's Mexican.
Speaker 2: For separatism. It's a lead for division.
Speaker 3: And you know, I think the rest of America, Ordinary America,
Speaker 3: Middle America, including.
Speaker 2: An awful lot of migrants.
Speaker 3: As you played your clip from CNN, I'll just simply
Speaker 3: reject that nonsense out of hand.
Speaker 5: You know, we see a similar phenomenon in Australia and
Speaker 5: around the world where legal immigrants reject this concept that
Speaker 5: anyone should be able to come to the country. They
Speaker 5: left their homelands for a reason to come to an America,
Speaker 5: not a place that resembled where they came from, that
Speaker 5: came for a reason.
Speaker 4: So I think this will just you know, further Bolston
Speaker 4: support for Trump and his policy absolutely.
Speaker 1: And you've seen it throughout the week with then burning
Speaker 1: the American flag, spitting, stomping on the American flag, whilst
Speaker 1: they proudly fly the flag of countries where they don't
Speaker 1: want to be deported. To try to check that out.
Speaker 1: After the break, your favorite segments Lefty Lunacy, Wacademia and
Speaker 1: it's saying we've got it all. Welcome back to outside
Speaker 1: as I'm Britta Panny and I'm joined with Caroline Marcus
Speaker 1: James Moraw Caroline is here for Rowan Dean. He's having
Speaker 1: a well earned break and let's get into lefty lunacy guys.
Speaker 1: Tim Walls, We've already talked about him today, and he
Speaker 1: is he just never fails to embarrass himself. He gives
Speaker 1: us so much content. Here is asked a very simple question,
Speaker 1: what is a woman? Nancy Mace put that question to him,
Speaker 1: and watch his face in here? What is a woman?
Speaker 4: What is a woman?
Speaker 5: Is a question?
Speaker 7: I'm I'm not sure I understand the question.
Speaker 2: Oh, hey, that.
Speaker 4: Question, it's just so complicated.
Speaker 1: It's so common. You could literally ask a toddler that
Speaker 1: question and then give you a better answer than what
Speaker 1: we just heard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then the title would be suspended from preschool
Speaker 3: from being transphob But then, you know, let's not forget that.
Speaker 2: But the but the other thing too, is that, like you're.
Speaker 3: Telling me, Rita that a guy who spent his career
Speaker 3: as governor of Minnesota putting tampons in the boys' bathrooms
Speaker 3: in the high schools wasn't able to answer the question
Speaker 3: what is woman? Reader, I'm just I'm frankly surprised that
Speaker 3: you're surprised.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a question that they see as a gotcha question, Caroline,
Speaker 1: It's not a gotcha question. Just say an adult female.
Speaker 5: Lots of things you can say and lots of scientifically
Speaker 5: based answers. Or if you're Clementine, for you say it's
Speaker 5: someone who has been afraid of a man at some
Speaker 5: point in their life, that is a make James.
Speaker 1: A woman as well, because I'm sure at some point
Speaker 1: in your life you've never been afraid.
Speaker 10: Of a man.
Speaker 4: What if you've been afraid of a woman. Because I
Speaker 4: find time and time.
Speaker 1: For cary men in New York. Now we talked about
Speaker 1: Grace Tame and Nike and Nike in their association with
Speaker 1: the former Australian of the Year after some of the
Speaker 1: radical and radical is putting it nicely stuff she was
Speaker 1: putting on social media, Caroline. Another corporate relationship has come
Speaker 1: to an end someone I'd never heard of, but a
Speaker 1: Melbourne entrepreneur, Lucy Figgins, who's the founder of the Design Files,
Speaker 1: which apparently has quite a large following. Mercedes Benz and
Speaker 1: jew Lux have both torn up their agreements with her.
Speaker 5: Tell us why well she came to the defense of
Speaker 5: someone else, a Sydney architect called Luigi Rosselli, who has
Speaker 5: been posting praise of Greted Thumberg and herself for yacht
Speaker 5: floating towards Gaza in an attempt to end the blockade,
Speaker 5: and so she came to his defense. But she's been
Speaker 5: posting for a long time, like a time, wasn't I
Speaker 5: think this was the straw.
Speaker 4: That broke the camel's back.
Speaker 5: And I mean they Mercedes Benz obviously a German company
Speaker 5: who have donated heavily, who have worked with Israeli organizations
Speaker 5: like Yadbushem, the Holocaust Museum in Israel.
Speaker 1: They weren't going to put up with us.
Speaker 3: And why is it that these companies to be unable
Speaker 3: where they're going to go and hire somebody to be
Speaker 3: an influencer for them or something like that.
Speaker 2: And I mean, I don't know why. You know, because
Speaker 2: of these driving mesits, they're gonna want driveing meceds too
Speaker 2: or whatever. But like why they aren't just having a
Speaker 2: bit of a scroll through their instant just to make
Speaker 2: sure that.
Speaker 1: It was a one way street. If you said anything
Speaker 1: remotely conservative, you were banned, like you were absolutely poison
Speaker 1: as far as the corporate world was concerned, which is
Speaker 1: so idiotic, but that was the position they took. But
Speaker 1: you could spout all sorts of crazy leftist nonsense and
Speaker 1: they would say, oh, there's no price to pay because
Speaker 1: people on the right don't boycott products, they don't have
Speaker 1: cancel culture. Well, guess what, people on the right also
Speaker 1: decide where they So.
Speaker 3: You're seeing the marketing the problem as well. These company
Speaker 3: is run by the New South Wales moderates.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much. That's pretty much it.
Speaker 5: I mean and fantess a lot of these bloggers and
Speaker 5: mummy influences, they didn't haven't discovered the Middle East until
Speaker 5: October seven, and then they all came out thinking it's
Speaker 5: the cause du jure.
Speaker 3: They're so genuine here, you know, like all of a sudden, Hey,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm doing my frame black for Black Lives Matter.
Speaker 3: Oh no, wait, now I'm put a watermelon up for
Speaker 3: palistite who cares well?
Speaker 1: Happy It doesn't have to be this issue, because as
Speaker 1: we have seen, with all these influencers, bloggers, all the
Speaker 1: sort of lefty echo chamber, you can predict their position
Speaker 1: on any topic. But before October seven you could have
Speaker 1: found plenty of radical leftist content that were pumping out
Speaker 1: to them.
Speaker 5: For someone like Grace Tame, she was too ignorant to
Speaker 5: realize that Nike is owned by an Israeli company, and
Speaker 5: therefore she was she was she was actually despital her
Speaker 5: you know, statements on Instagram and social media.
Speaker 4: She was chilling for this company.
Speaker 1: Now, don't go anywhere. Coming up next James's Donkey Vote,
Speaker 1: and we crossed to the US for more on the
Speaker 1: riots and the latest on Israel and Iran.
Speaker 3: Hello, you're watching Good Signers with your hosts Rita Panahy
Speaker 3: and making a special one week only appearance sitting in
Speaker 3: rowan our good friend Carolyn Marcus. Now, before I get
Speaker 3: to all the serious business of war and all that jazz,
Speaker 3: I need to share with you just a little story
Speaker 3: about anti Israel lefties getting a very big mugging by reality.
Speaker 2: By now, of course, everybody is well familiar with.
Speaker 3: Climate crusader Greta Tundberg and her attempt to sail to
Speaker 3: Gaza to quote unquote block the blockade. Well, Israel responded
Speaker 3: to this effort with a hearty how dare you and
Speaker 3: kicked her out of the country, sending her home in
Speaker 3: that back row of the plane, in that back row
Speaker 3: that doesn't recline, stuck next to the galley and the toot.
Speaker 3: Hope you had a nice flight. Greta and well done Israel.
Speaker 3: Ten no notes, as the kids say, But only this
Speaker 3: cautionary tale has it stopped others from trying their hand
Speaker 3: at a little territorism of themselves. Meet the geniuses behind
Speaker 3: something cold, the Global March to Gaza. Yes, that's right,
Speaker 3: you heard correctly, who have decided that it would be
Speaker 3: a real swell idea at a high old time to
Speaker 3: fly to Egypt and from there try to march into
Speaker 3: the Gaza strip on foot.
Speaker 2: To open up the territory to humanitarian relief.
Speaker 3: Here you see some of their supporters sharing those heading
Speaker 3: off from Amsterdam's Schiffole Airport. And boy, that guy in
Speaker 3: the blue shirt looking him there on the right, he
Speaker 3: really looks like he'd be a lot of fun at parties.
Speaker 3: But of course these guys forget that. Not long after
Speaker 3: the October seventh attacks, Egypt sealed its border with Gaza.
Speaker 3: Why well, because they didn't want to wind up like
Speaker 3: Lebanon did in nineteen seventy or later than that, or
Speaker 3: Jordan in nineteen seventy or anywhere else. The Palestinians and
Speaker 3: the PLO went to spread their special sunshine across the
Speaker 3: Middle East. So how do you think the Egyptians reacted
Speaker 3: to these silly white Western liberals presuming to undo their
Speaker 3: own blockade of Gaza about as well as you would expect.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 3: Everyday Egyptians decided that they would beat the ever loving
Speaker 3: you know what out of these activists with belts and
Speaker 3: shoes and whatever else they had to hand, not to
Speaker 3: be outdone. Egyptian officials themselves were not too pleased either.
Speaker 1: There's people in masks.
Speaker 4: There's people in masks. Please someone screen record this.
Speaker 1: There's people in masks dragging people out.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but can these people just decide whether or
Speaker 2: not they like masks or not. Honestly, it's so hard
Speaker 2: to keep up these days.
Speaker 3: But anyway, what's the old expression about it taking a
Speaker 3: heart of stone not to laugh at this stuff. Well,
Speaker 3: here's more from one of the participants.
Speaker 4: This is an emergency.
Speaker 17: We have just been violently dragged into the buses here
Speaker 17: at the first checkpoint on the way to al To Ismalia.
Speaker 17: We were sitting quietly and not doing anything. We were
Speaker 17: debating that we would leave soon in taxis back to
Speaker 17: Cairo because we did not break any law, And all
Speaker 17: of a sudden, several people stormed in and they started
Speaker 17: to push people and drag them violently outside.
Speaker 3: Anyway, finally the mob said farewell in the classy banner
Speaker 3: for which the activist left is known. Here they are
Speaker 3: saying farewell to Egypt with a song.
Speaker 7: You as you.
Speaker 2: Jab AnyWho.
Speaker 3: The reason I bring this up is because, you know,
Speaker 3: this really just feels like a progressive version of European colonialism,
Speaker 3: with the great white Saviors coming down from the continent
Speaker 3: to tell the Egyptians how to run their country and
Speaker 3: their border. But guess what, our European friends wound up
Speaker 3: on the point the end of decolonization, As the Egyptians
Speaker 3: told them quite rightly. What's the saying, go back where
Speaker 3: you came from? Right onto more serious business. Well, on Saturday,
Speaker 3: I had a great opportunity, and I'd like to thank
Speaker 3: the US Embassy in Canberra for inviting me along to
Speaker 3: visit the USS America Admiral Tom Schultz, American Charge and
Speaker 3: Affairs Erica Olson, and everyone aboard the ship were incredibly
Speaker 3: generous in showing US life aboard this amphibious assault craft
Speaker 3: normally based in Japan, that is, paying a visit to
Speaker 3: Cydy and Australia and is understood that it's going to
Speaker 3: be taking place with America and a bunch of other
Speaker 3: ships as part of the Operation Talisman Saber coming up now.
Speaker 3: Right now, around forty five hundred sailors and marines are
Speaker 3: in town in Cindy. And I'll tell you what, if
Speaker 3: you meet any of them, have a beer with them.
Speaker 3: They are incredibly mostly young people doing a hell of
Speaker 3: a job and they will be, I have to say,
Speaker 3: potentially on the front line, very likely of any future
Speaker 3: conflict that breaks out in the Pacific. Now that's why
Speaker 3: I bring this up, because this visit here that is
Speaker 3: part of the close Australian American alliance represents this one
Speaker 3: which our own Prime Minister. However, Anthony Albinizi has been
Speaker 3: well rubbishing just a little bit lately for his own
Speaker 3: domestic political purposes. Recall what the Prime Minister said just
Speaker 3: the other day at the National Press Club in a
Speaker 3: sidelong shot at American values and the American President.
Speaker 18: And Australians voted against importing conflicts and ideologies that had
Speaker 18: no basis in our national culture or character. They rejected
Speaker 18: policies copied from overseas that would only leave us as smaller, narrower,
Speaker 18: less generous and more divided country. Instead, hour people chose
Speaker 18: to face global challenges in the Australian.
Speaker 2: Way, and we know exactly what he meant and who
Speaker 2: he meant by that.
Speaker 3: I don't think Albanezi was too concerned with Chinese Communist
Speaker 3: Party influence operations in Australia.
Speaker 2: No, he was talking about the US of A. Now,
Speaker 2: of course, after all that.
Speaker 3: I hope Donald Trump doesn't watch the Fress Club because
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister has jetted off to meet we presume,
Speaker 3: and I think it's now been confirmed on Tuesday, and
Speaker 3: this is going to happen meet with US President Donald
Speaker 3: Trump at the G seven where Australia's defense spending budget
Speaker 3: will surely come up. And it struck me as I
Speaker 3: was toured around the aircraft on this ship that I
Speaker 3: was on, including the F thirty five b's, which one
Speaker 3: aviator told me were like magic to fly, that they
Speaker 3: were so advanced that defense is now really for Australia
Speaker 3: the main game, the only game in town, given what's
Speaker 3: going on in the world. Yet it also strikes me
Speaker 3: that the nature of warfare is changing and we in
Speaker 3: Australia have to be ready in the past two weeks
Speaker 3: we have seen, of course, first Ukrainians launched an attack
Speaker 3: with drones that took out something like a third of
Speaker 3: Russia's nuclear capable long range bombers, and then Israel just
Speaker 3: in the past few days decapitated Iran's nuclear program as
Speaker 3: well as their revolutionary Guard, again with drones being a
Speaker 3: big part of the picture, and great for them, but
Speaker 3: let's remember the good guys don't always win, and the
Speaker 3: bad guys have access to the same technology. Because of
Speaker 3: the just the past two weeks, not just the past
Speaker 3: two weeks, but the past two years have shown us
Speaker 3: what the wars of the future will look like will
Speaker 3: look like for Australia as well. Stext generation of warfare
Speaker 3: driven by drones and other autonomous technology not necessarily launched
Speaker 3: from an air base or a carrier group means that
Speaker 3: even seemingly ragtag enemies can make a lot of trouble
Speaker 3: for relatively little cost. Just look at what's been going
Speaker 3: on in the Red Sea where I ran back who
Speaker 3: tie Rebels from Yemen have launched a harassment campaign on
Speaker 3: global shipping that is forced by some counts, nearly half
Speaker 3: of all container ships that would have once gone through
Speaker 3: the Red Sea to instead make their way.
Speaker 2: Around Africa at great cost.
Speaker 3: Now Australia too, guess what, We're incredibly vulnerable to this
Speaker 3: style of warfare. Before he died too young in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three, X Major General turned senator Jim Molin, who
Speaker 3: many of you will remember well, would warn anyone who
Speaker 3: would listen, and we talked about it a lot that
Speaker 3: we needed to put our own jets under hardened shelters,
Speaker 3: anticipating exactly the sort of attack that devastated Russia's air
Speaker 3: force the other week. Yet for the most part, our
Speaker 3: planes do not still have these hardened shelters, while facilities
Speaker 3: like our over the horizon radar network appear as virtually
Speaker 3: undefended easy targets. Not only do we in Australia need
Speaker 3: to spend more on defense, but we need to spend
Speaker 3: smart to make sure we are not dealt out of
Speaker 3: the fight from the get go.
Speaker 1: Thank you, James. Now, let's speak to our former Republican
Speaker 1: candidate for California's thirtieth congressional district, Alex Balkin, who joins
Speaker 1: us now to bring us the latest live from La Alex.
Speaker 1: We've seen trouble for over a week now, have things
Speaker 1: finally cuibed down, Have they had their big peak with
Speaker 1: their No King's rally, and they're going to go home
Speaker 1: and go back to their jobs hopefully.
Speaker 19: Well, most of these people actually don't have jobs. They
Speaker 19: have an abundance of free time, which is why they
Speaker 19: can mobilize so quickly. Anytime anybody gets upset, it's unclear
Speaker 19: whether things will calm down because they get offended and
Speaker 19: get upset at the mildest thing, and so they're looking
Speaker 19: for a reason to revolt and vandalize property.
Speaker 4: Alex, We've seen that these protests go on, and.
Speaker 5: We've seen dramatic scenes from them, cars being set on fire, looting,
Speaker 5: and yet some of the media over there, a lot
Speaker 5: of the media seem to be describing them as peaceful,
Speaker 5: at least some of the guests describing them as paceful.
Speaker 19: That could not be any farther from the truth. They
Speaker 19: are not peaceful protesters. You can see that they are
Speaker 19: actually pounding on the pavement, breaking up piles of concrete
Speaker 19: to throw on cars. And there was a pretty contentious
Speaker 19: comment put on social media by one of the news
Speaker 19: reporters who said ninety nine percent of Los Angeles is
Speaker 19: safe and not in these conflict areas.
Speaker 2: I just want to give the example of my hometown
Speaker 2: of Glendale.
Speaker 19: We were targeted by these democratic socialist communist thugs because
Speaker 19: they wanted our city to cancel a contract that it
Speaker 19: had with the federal authorities for deporting illegal immigrants. And
Speaker 19: so as soon as they put a target on Glendale,
Speaker 19: our city council immediately canceled that contract. And so you
Speaker 19: have cities around Los Angeles, neighborhoods who are trying to
Speaker 19: Lilo because they don't want a target on their backs
Speaker 19: because they have been silenced into submission.
Speaker 2: Alex.
Speaker 3: I'd also point out, you know that ninety nine percent
Speaker 3: of Iran wasn't going to attack this week either, So
Speaker 3: maybe this person had a point. But seriously, though, you know,
Speaker 3: I watched these demonstrators and they seem to be part
Speaker 3: of the same group that when we spoke in La
Speaker 3: last year. You know, we're part of dragging down Los
Speaker 3: Angeles and turning it into you know, this sort of
Speaker 3: very separate sort of place to the rest of America.
Speaker 2: When I see all these Mexican.
Speaker 3: Flags and Salvadoran flags, it feels to me like, really,
Speaker 3: what the game plan here is to let California set
Speaker 3: its own immigration policy apart from the apart from the
Speaker 3: federal government, which is supposed to control things like immigration policy.
Speaker 3: How much of an actual sort of you know, practically
Speaker 3: almost insurrectionist and separatists vibe is there among these protesters
Speaker 3: because it seems like they simply don't want to obey
Speaker 3: Washington and a democratically elected president.
Speaker 2: Are they now questioning democracy?
Speaker 19: Alex Well, I just want all of your viewers to
Speaker 19: know that these people are part of a vocal, fringe minority.
Speaker 19: If you remember, in November during the presidential election, the
Speaker 19: two issues that were front and center were inflation because
Speaker 19: of government spending, and also illegal immigration. And a recent
Speaker 19: CBS News poll that came out last week, so that
Speaker 19: fifty four percent of Americans approve of Donald Trump's performance
Speaker 19: on illegal immigration. Fifty four percent is more than he
Speaker 19: got in the popular vote. So americans malaise with illegal
Speaker 19: immigration has only gotten worse. And I just want people
Speaker 19: to know that the majority of people, rational, reasonable individuals
Speaker 19: do not agree with unfettered illegal immigration and allowing people
Speaker 19: who commit crimes, vandalism, assault, drunk driving, people who are
Speaker 19: here illegally who break laws. The rational reasonable individual wants
Speaker 19: those people identified and deported.
Speaker 1: But we've got the celebrity class out in force. Apparently
Speaker 1: there were a few a least celebrities at the protest today,
Speaker 1: some Hollywood actors Susan Sarandon I think was anngst them.
Speaker 1: And we've had the likes of Kim Kardashian, Eva Longoria,
Speaker 1: plenty of celebs, musicians, models, actors coming out or predictably
Speaker 1: on the side of illegal immigrants and demonizing ICE as
Speaker 1: essentially Nazis who are tearing people out and kidnapping them
Speaker 1: and deporting them to the countries. Is that going to
Speaker 1: have any sort of impact because we do have the
Speaker 1: very influential celebrity class in full force being activists in
Speaker 1: this area.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 19: No, their opinion matters, not at all, because right now
Speaker 19: what matters to people is the cost of living, is
Speaker 19: the electricity rates, is the gas taxes, and why we
Speaker 19: have to pay six dollars a gallon for gas when
Speaker 19: the rest of the country is paying less than three
Speaker 19: dollars a gallon. So all of these celebrities, these rich
Speaker 19: elitist celebrities who live in their bubbles, who are insulated
Speaker 19: from the problems that plague the everyday person. Their opinions
Speaker 19: don't matter.
Speaker 2: People aren't listening to them.
Speaker 1: Oh well, well, James, I'm wondering if Donald Trump will
Speaker 1: be just secretly hoping for these protests to continue on
Speaker 1: and on.
Speaker 3: Well I think so, because I'd love to get your
Speaker 3: view on this, Alex here, because you know, they do
Speaker 3: seem to play into the Republican's hand. But tell us
Speaker 3: also the what about Gavin Newsom in all of this?
Speaker 3: Because Gavin Newsom gave this big speech last week, you know,
Speaker 3: the New York Times said, oh, we finally have a
Speaker 3: leader for the Democrats. This is him setting up for
Speaker 3: the for the presidency in twenty twenty. But you know, Alex,
Speaker 3: how is that going to work? Because you said most Americans,
Speaker 3: you know again, the Democrats have picked the wrong side
Speaker 3: of this issue. Does Gavin Newsom have a prayer of
Speaker 3: taking his anti Trump, pro illegal message and that's what
Speaker 3: it is essentially, you know, on the national stage, or
Speaker 3: will he just get laughed off of it?
Speaker 19: I mean, he is choosing the wrong issue. If you're
Speaker 19: going to choose issues that matter to the average Californian,
Speaker 19: you don't choose this particular issue. Because, as I said,
Speaker 19: you have Californians who are buckling under the weight of
Speaker 19: higher taxes, higher gas prices, and poor social services. You know,
Speaker 19: we pay hundreds of dollars for registering our vehicles, but
Speaker 19: then the roads remain with potholes, and then you see
Speaker 19: that illegal immigrants are getting free services at the expense
Speaker 19: of legal immigrants and American citizens. So we are just
Speaker 19: kind of sitting back and letting them hang themselves with
Speaker 19: this rope. Because if you are the reasonable, rational individual
Speaker 19: who has everyday problems like high cost of living, like
Speaker 19: high taxes, when you see your elected officials investing this
Speaker 19: much efforts in people who are here illegally, people who
Speaker 19: commit crimes and should be deported. When you see that
Speaker 19: they're investing their efforts and energies in those people and
Speaker 19: not on us, that is simply a losing battle. And
Speaker 19: we're just going to sit back and watch them dig
Speaker 19: their whole deeper.
Speaker 1: Alex Belkin, thank you so much for your time. Don't
Speaker 1: go anywhere after the break our tertiary education system plagued
Speaker 1: with activists. Would I be looking into that.
Speaker 5: Good morning, you are watching Outsiders with your hosts James Morrow,
Speaker 5: Rita Panahee and I'm Caroline Marcus filling in for Roantine. Well,
Speaker 5: how did we get to the point where an academic
Speaker 5: feels entirely emboldened to brazenly call for the actual execution
Speaker 5: of a group of people. Since the October seven attacks
Speaker 5: in Israel, we've seen some of the most vile, extremist
Speaker 5: garbage from the people meant to be nurturing the minds
Speaker 5: of the next generation.
Speaker 4: This latest example.
Speaker 5: From Sydney University academic and palaestin in activist for had
Speaker 5: Ali surely takes the cake.
Speaker 4: Though, in what's become a very crowded field.
Speaker 5: The biologists tweeted this week f sanctions, I want Zionists
Speaker 5: executed like we executed Nazis. Despite the post being taken
Speaker 5: down by X for violating rules against violent speech, Ali
Speaker 5: doubled down, posting a screenshot of the now hidden post
Speaker 5: and tweeting violent speech. People are on this website every
Speaker 5: day celebrating.
Speaker 4: The burning of children alive.
Speaker 5: Don't tell me wanting to see these people hanged like
Speaker 5: the Nazis were.
Speaker 4: Postnuroberg is violent.
Speaker 5: Now, let's put aside the fact that precisely no one
Speaker 5: is celebrating the burning of children. The war and Ghaza,
Speaker 5: like any war, is absolutely devastating.
Speaker 4: It's simply some.
Speaker 5: Of us can grasp the ugly realities of a war
Speaker 5: started by a terror group who refuses to accept Seas
Speaker 5: five deals, release hostages and well surrender, but to call
Speaker 5: for Zionists to be executed hanged like the Nazis that
Speaker 5: in actuality Israel Is fighting seems like a clear cut
Speaker 5: incitement to violence. New South Wales Police is now investigating Ali,
Speaker 5: not the past investigations of others seem to go anywhere,
Speaker 5: and the University of Sydney has taken the rere.
Speaker 4: Step of standing him down.
Speaker 5: A spokeswoman telling the Daily Telegraph, We're deeply disturbed by
Speaker 5: comments made by one of our casual academic staff. We
Speaker 5: find them utterly unacceptable and we're taking immediate action, including
Speaker 5: suspending his employment pending further assessment. Now I'm still unconvinced
Speaker 5: that he will be properly dealt with. Maybe that's because
Speaker 5: the university's immediate response was to point out the post
Speaker 5: was made on Ali's personal account. Despite Ali describing himself
Speaker 5: in his bio as a Sydney Uni academic, he also
Speaker 5: calls himself an elder twink.
Speaker 4: But I think it's too.
Speaker 5: Early in the morning to explain to you what that
Speaker 5: gay term twink means. Let's just say it wouldn't go
Speaker 5: down well on the streets of Gaza. Fahad Ali has
Speaker 5: featured on the ABC, of course, as an organizer of
Speaker 5: the October nine rally in Sydney, which led to those
Speaker 5: at Borren scenes outside the opera house. He denied to
Speaker 5: the public broadcaster that gas the Jews had been chanted
Speaker 5: and claimed there was only a small group of troublemakers
Speaker 5: on the night we all saw the footage. And ten
Speaker 5: years ago, Ali, then a medical student at the university,
Speaker 5: was cleared by the University of Sydney for misconduct after
Speaker 5: interrupting a lecture by former British Army or Richard Kemp. Now,
Speaker 5: this university has a long storied history of doing precisely
Speaker 5: zilch when it comes to extremist academics, and they're inaction.
Speaker 5: Is how we find ourselves here today talking about one
Speaker 5: of their staff openly calling for the execution of Zionists,
Speaker 5: essentially the execution of Jews. Case in point, Joel Griggs,
Speaker 5: who's threatening posts to the Jewish organization the Australian Jewish Association.
Speaker 5: The university found concerning enough to refer to New South
Speaker 5: Wales Police, but not so concerning that they could sack him,
Speaker 5: because again they were made in a personal capacity. Griggs
Speaker 5: is someone who'd called for the hoy paloit to start,
Speaker 5: finally chopping off the heads of Sky News hosts Andrew Bolt,
Speaker 5: Peter Kredlin and I'm sorry reader, but outside is Rita Panahi.
Speaker 4: And in two then the senior.
Speaker 5: Lecturer, doctor Stuart Jackson, who tweeted in December, I rather
Speaker 5: think Palestinians don't wish death to all Jews, but in
Speaker 5: the current circumstances I would forgive the sentiment. Now, after
Speaker 5: a five month investigation the un the university finally informed
Speaker 5: again the Australian Jewish Association, which had raised its concerns
Speaker 5: with him, that nothing would be done. They said it
Speaker 5: was determined to process on the basis that doctor Jackson
Speaker 5: made the post in his personal capacity.
Speaker 4: But things may soon start to change.
Speaker 5: Not only has the response to fajad Ali's bile been
Speaker 5: stronger than the university had shown in the past, a
Speaker 5: new call case I can reveal will challenge its lack
Speaker 5: of meaningful action on this issue in the first class
Speaker 5: action lawsuit to tackle campus anti semitism filed in the
Speaker 5: Federal court on Friday afternoon. The lawsuit intends to confront
Speaker 5: the growing issue of hate speech on university campuses, ensuring
Speaker 5: accountability for speech.
Speaker 4: That incites harm.
Speaker 5: The case is being led by top barristers Adam Butt
Speaker 5: and Saul Holt Casey. Now Mister Bud successfully acted against
Speaker 5: the Victorian government and the public school Brighton's Secondary College
Speaker 5: in a landmark anti semitism case on behalf of five
Speaker 5: Jewish boys that was decided in twenty twenty three. The
Speaker 5: latest matter is brought by a group of Sydney Universities
Speaker 5: Jewish staff and students against two of its highest profile
Speaker 5: anti Israel academics, doctor Nick Reimer and Professor John Keene.
Speaker 5: They're accused of discriminating against Jewish people on the section
Speaker 5: eighteen C of the Racial Discrimination Act. Among the many
Speaker 5: offensive posts, doctor Raimer tweeted the day after the October
Speaker 5: seven attacks, no progressive should feel the need to publicly
Speaker 5: condemn any choices by the Palestinian resistance. Doing so just
Speaker 5: adds to the perception that their cause is unjust.
Speaker 4: The Palestinian resistance, of.
Speaker 5: Course, being the depraved her Mass Bavarians who raped, murdered
Speaker 5: and took hostage more than a thousand Israelis.
Speaker 4: Yeah them.
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, Professor Kean shared this image of green flags looking
Speaker 5: very much like the harmass flags to his ex account
Speaker 5: on the day of the October seven attacks. He since claimed,
Speaker 5: oh no, they were just some innocent green flags. The
Speaker 5: university's vice chancellor, Mark Scott has already admitted he let
Speaker 5: down Jewish students and staff, and his handling of the
Speaker 5: longest pro Palestinian encampment of any Australian university admission doesn't
Speaker 5: mean a whole lot when he's rewarded with a one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty thousand dollars pay rise, pushing his salary
Speaker 5: above one point three million dollars a year. Maybe, just
Speaker 5: maybe this case will be what the university needs to
Speaker 5: truly wake up to the hatred they've allowed to fester
Speaker 5: right under their noses.
Speaker 1: Great work there, Caroline, and this is so widespread. You've
Speaker 1: got Sydney UNIB but there are so many universities across
Speaker 1: the country where the hostility, the hate towards Israels, towards
Speaker 1: Jewish students is just completely unacceptable, and it's wider than that.
Speaker 1: Don't think it just impacts the Jewish community. Because you
Speaker 1: want to be a conservative on a university campus in Australia,
Speaker 1: good luck to you. There are so many who are
Speaker 1: self censoring and hiding what they think who they are
Speaker 1: because it's become this ugly, hostileic chimba.
Speaker 2: That's not just Australia's around the world. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: go to Harvard University.
Speaker 3: You know, you remember a couple of years ago when
Speaker 3: they called up the heads of the major universities before
Speaker 3: Congress and none of them could answer any questions about
Speaker 3: anti Semitism. But the anti Semitism thing, you know, yes,
Speaker 3: it's very bad, but this is all in out growth.
Speaker 3: You remember the whole cancel culture thing that started years
Speaker 3: and years ago and had been allowed to simmer and
Speaker 3: incubate and finally boil over in the wake of October seventh.
Speaker 2: You know, this didn't happen in a vacuum.
Speaker 3: This is years, if not decades, of intellectual dishonesty and
Speaker 3: university administration administrators count howing to hard left elements who
Speaker 3: then once they take over these departments, then they use
Speaker 3: diversity criterion to set up ways to exclude anybody who
Speaker 3: doesn't think like them. The whole thing where when professors
Speaker 3: apply to become professors at universities, they have to sign
Speaker 3: these things called diversity statements, which are essentially oaths to
Speaker 3: support the politically correct hard left line. Now, Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: of course, has taken all the universities, particularly of Harvard,
Speaker 3: on a lot of this, and I think rightly so mostly.
Speaker 3: And the thing is is that Harvard on the global
Speaker 3: or annual index of Free Speech at universities, ranks dead last.
Speaker 3: It is the worst university for free speech. So yes,
Speaker 3: it's an anti Semitism issue, but it's a speech issue.
Speaker 3: It's a politics issue, it's.
Speaker 5: An ideology issue. And to your point, I mean, cancel
Speaker 5: culture led to this. But ironically, these academics who are
Speaker 5: now essentially calling in this case for the execution of Jews,
Speaker 5: I mean, they are among the most uncancellable, sheltered workshop
Speaker 5: of people.
Speaker 4: Of course, in the world. Nothing tends to happen to that.
Speaker 2: But where does this all end? Where is this all that?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 3: You know, like my question for every situation is always
Speaker 3: what comes next? What comes next? And you know, all
Speaker 3: of these hard left university academics, whether the people like
Speaker 3: you're talking about, Caroline, were the ones who've got Harvard,
Speaker 3: who have got all these other leftist canceled called Harvard.
Speaker 2: What happens.
Speaker 3: What happens, though, is that all of a sudden, suddenly
Speaker 3: these universities find that they have no support based left
Speaker 3: and the humanities, all of these subjects, they're all going
Speaker 3: to die out. These people are going to kill off
Speaker 3: the universities like a cancer.
Speaker 1: Well, it's this is why I brought up what's happening
Speaker 1: in Australia and beyond the anti Semitism, because in the
Speaker 1: US you've got Donald Trump and he's actually tackling this
Speaker 1: issue very aggressively, particularly when it comes to Harvard. It's
Speaker 1: imposed all sorts of funding carts, all sorts of restrictions
Speaker 1: on students that can have so he is actually taking action.
Speaker 4: We don't have.
Speaker 1: Anything like that in Australia, even when we've got conservative
Speaker 1: governments in place. Caroline so reluctant to tackle this issue
Speaker 1: in any sort of meaningful way, and that's why I
Speaker 1: think in many ways we're a lot worse off than
Speaker 1: what we're seeing in the US, because there is at
Speaker 1: least a resistance there. There is an ideological debate here.
Speaker 1: We've got this just group think and it's all in
Speaker 1: the very wrong direction.
Speaker 4: There's a group thing.
Speaker 5: And as you're right, very right, the opposition, the coalition
Speaker 5: has been scared to fight a cultural war.
Speaker 4: Well, it's not a cultural war.
Speaker 5: These are basic values of Western democracy and they're afraid
Speaker 5: to uphold.
Speaker 3: You know what, it is a cultural war. It's a
Speaker 3: cultural war from the left. The left always it filtrates
Speaker 3: every institution. They try and destroy every institution, and then
Speaker 3: you know, they try and create the whole sorty idea
Speaker 3: that this is normal, this is a new normal. Now
Speaker 3: we all say, well, the countries everywhere, now we teach
Speaker 3: our kids to hate the country.
Speaker 2: Now we do this, Now we do that. And then
Speaker 2: it's only when you push back, Hey, that's a cultur war.
Speaker 2: A culture war. Go back to the cost of living.
Speaker 3: And it's like what I always say, though, what I
Speaker 3: always say about the cultural war, and conservatives that need
Speaker 3: to hold their spine on this.
Speaker 2: Moderates need to get with the program.
Speaker 3: But the thing is is that you know, you want
Speaker 3: the free market stuff, right, you want the economy, you
Speaker 3: want the capitalism I want to I'll get that. I'm
Speaker 3: for that and all of that, but none of that's
Speaker 3: going to exist if everybody winds up becoming culturally socialist.
Speaker 3: This whole idea that you're going to have people are
Speaker 3: going to be culturally left and economically right, this is
Speaker 3: a fiction and it actually doesn't work.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't work, and it's something Donald Trump recognized
Speaker 1: very early. He has always leaned into these cultural issues,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the polling shows that though inflation
Speaker 1: and the immigration crisis were enormously important, it was the
Speaker 1: culture war issues that really won him the election. With independence.
Speaker 1: Let's hear now from President Donald Trump, who spoke earlier
Speaker 1: at the two hundred and fifty anniversary of the military.
Speaker 10: America stands to America stands proud, and America stands free.
Speaker 4: Were the hottest country in the world right now.
Speaker 10: Our country will soon be greater and stronger than ever before.
Speaker 1: How triggering, triggering, no kings, no kings. It's been fascinating
Speaker 1: to Zee. I don't know if he's just lucky that
Speaker 1: his opponents continuously behaves so stupidly, or whether there's a
Speaker 1: bit of thinking behind it. James, and and he knows
Speaker 1: how they're going to react. So he leans into these issues.
Speaker 1: But this two hundred and fifty year anniversary of the
Speaker 1: military and the way he's marked it, the honor he's
Speaker 1: put onto the military. Did he know the left was
Speaker 1: going to do with the actually and now they've come
Speaker 1: out against the people who risk their lives to serve
Speaker 1: their country. People are saying these scenes are reminiscent of
Speaker 1: North Korea. It's triggering, it's it's frightening.
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, no, No, First of all, this
Speaker 3: has actually been and I was watching Silver before we
Speaker 3: came to air.
Speaker 2: This is a really cool parade.
Speaker 3: It's been a historical look at you know, all the
Speaker 3: every way that America has fought from the revolution of today.
Speaker 3: Educational too, and look as a military history buff, it's great.
Speaker 3: I love seeing the cavalry. I love seeing the old tanks.
Speaker 3: I love seeing the old jeeps. I love the old uniforms.
Speaker 3: I love that stuff.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Here's you want Donald Trump's key Here. What he does
Speaker 3: is he thinks to himself, what's something that the left hates?
Speaker 3: And then he celebrates it. So all he asked to
Speaker 3: do is think, right, what is the left? What's coming
Speaker 3: up here on the counter.
Speaker 2: I look it. It's flag day.
Speaker 3: It's also my birthday is very special birthday and birthday
Speaker 3: prison Trump. And then you know, he says, let's have
Speaker 3: a big parade for it, let's celebrate it. And everybody
Speaker 3: goes thoughts and he says, what's wrong. It's the military.
Speaker 3: We love the military. And then Trump gets the reflected glory.
Speaker 2: It is so simple.
Speaker 3: And it's amazing that after ten years of this Donald
Speaker 3: Trump or doing this, that the left hasn't figured out
Speaker 3: that thinking walking into his trap every single time, like
Speaker 3: Charlie Brown with the football every time Lucy holds it
Speaker 3: up for them.
Speaker 1: And just as remarkable that our own conservative politicians in
Speaker 1: this country haven't worked out how you can actually appeal
Speaker 1: to people who are on the fence, who are politically apathetic,
Speaker 1: who it drives me crazy. They just pay zero attention
Speaker 1: to what's happening in the UK, what's happening in the US,
Speaker 1: and how they could actually learn from that and reach
Speaker 1: a new group of voters. Now we're going to go
Speaker 1: to a quick break and we come back. We're going
Speaker 1: to go to Washington, d C. With Hudston Institute's Senior
Speaker 1: Fellow Michael Doran more on Israel and Iraq. Welcome back.
Speaker 1: Hudson Institute's senior fellow, Michael Doran joins us now live
Speaker 1: from Washington this DC. Michael tell us what we can
Speaker 1: expect next in the Israel Iran conflict. Is this the
Speaker 1: worst of it or is it matter is going to
Speaker 1: escalate further?
Speaker 16: Well, first of all, Hello, great to see you, and
Speaker 16: great to be back.
Speaker 20: I think that we're going to see at least several
Speaker 20: more days of fighting, maybe even longer. I don't see
Speaker 20: any any quick into this unless the Iranians capitulate to
Speaker 20: Donald Trump's demands that they dismantled their nuclear program. The
Speaker 20: Israeli has achieved unbelievable successes in the first couple of days.
Speaker 20: They decapitated the Iranian military leadership. They shut down, at
Speaker 20: least temporarily the Natans enrichment facility. They suppressed a lot
Speaker 20: of the Iranian ballistic missile fire that.
Speaker 16: We expected to see.
Speaker 20: They were The Israelis were hit by an Iranian counterattack,
Speaker 20: but it wasn't nearly as bad as as as some
Speaker 20: people expected. They have also killed nine or ten Iranian
Speaker 20: nuclear scientists, so I expected we're going to see this
Speaker 20: decapitition blow that they struck on the first day. I
Speaker 20: expect we're going to see a series of more decapitations.
Speaker 20: It's going to be kind of a continuous decapitation strategy,
Speaker 20: much like they carried out against his Bella.
Speaker 3: Michael, I want to ask you where this sort of
Speaker 3: goes next, because we have seen Israel threatened that if
Speaker 3: civilian populations were targeted, this would mean that they would
Speaker 3: go after oil production facilities on the Persian Gulf. And
Speaker 3: now we've also seen along with Tel Aviv, Central Tel
Speaker 3: Aviv being hit by some of these missiles, we've also
Speaker 3: seen Iran take shots at jet fuel refineries facilities around Haifa.
Speaker 2: Does Israel now have to go after these.
Speaker 3: Oil production facilities which where I guess I ran and
Speaker 3: get much of its rev you and does this threaten
Speaker 3: to then further widen the conflict between these two players
Speaker 3: in the region.
Speaker 16: Well, there were the Israelis are walking a line on
Speaker 16: on this.
Speaker 20: The the the stated goal of the of the operation
Speaker 20: is to end Iran's nuclear weapons uh UH program and
Speaker 20: to end the nuclear threat against Israel. But to achieve this,
Speaker 20: the Israelis are are threatening UH kind of implicitly sometimes
Speaker 20: a little bit explicitly, to decapitate the whole regime. When
Speaker 20: I said before there was a decapitation strategy, it's been
Speaker 20: a military decapitation strategy. But they are signaling that they
Speaker 20: would be willing to go further. And of course Prime
Speaker 20: Minister NATHANIAO is urging the Iranian people to uh to
Speaker 20: rise up. Tonight, they struck a they struck an oil
Speaker 20: depot in Tehran. That was that was a shot across
Speaker 20: the bow we do. We could go after your after
Speaker 20: your your your oil refineries, and take down your entire,
Speaker 20: you know, revenue producing part of your economy.
Speaker 16: They don't want to do that because they're afraid.
Speaker 20: First of all, I think the Americans have probably suggested
Speaker 20: to them or strongly urged them not to do that.
Speaker 20: That's been the American position before and the Biden administration.
Speaker 20: It wouldn't surprise me if it was also the Trump
Speaker 20: administration's policy. But there are also feared that the Iranians
Speaker 20: will retaliate not just by taking out energy infrastructure in Israel,
Speaker 20: but hitting the Saudi and the UAE infrastructure, closing the
Speaker 20: straits of Tehran, widening the front in order to pull
Speaker 20: the Americans in to shut down the war.
Speaker 5: Well, what do you think the likelihood is that the
Speaker 5: US will get.
Speaker 20: Involved to the latest reports out of Israel tonight are
Speaker 20: that the Americans are talking about possibly getting involved on
Speaker 20: the side of Israel to actually take out the four
Speaker 20: Doh site. This is the most deeply dug in fortified
Speaker 20: the nuclear facility of the Iranians. It's under a mountain,
Speaker 20: and the Israelis don't have the equipment necessary. That's a
Speaker 20: B two bomber and the and the massive ordnance penetrator,
Speaker 20: the big heavy bomb that can penetrate the fortifications. They
Speaker 20: need the American bomber and the and the American ordinance
Speaker 20: in order to do that. And at first the Americans
Speaker 20: were showing no inclination to get involved at all. But
Speaker 20: I think the Trump administration sees the enormous success of
Speaker 20: the early stages of the war and they there will
Speaker 20: be voices inside the administration will say that saying, you know,
Speaker 20: why don't we just help the Israelis finish the job.
Speaker 20: Finish the job not of destroying the regime, but of
Speaker 20: destroying the nuclear program. And the argument would be that
Speaker 20: if we got involved, we could do it much more
Speaker 20: in a much more speedy fashion and in a much
Speaker 20: more surgical fashion than the Israelis can do on their own.
Speaker 3: But Michael, then doesn't that take away any impetus for
Speaker 3: Iran not to escalate the conflict by hitting other American
Speaker 3: bases and so on. I mean, if it's going to
Speaker 3: become such an existential conflict for them, where then they
Speaker 3: don't have a nuclear program, and they're this close to
Speaker 3: being decapitated, why wouldn't they strategically just try and make
Speaker 3: this thing as painful as possible, particularly for Israel, which
Speaker 3: has already been fighting a war in Gaza for some
Speaker 3: time now, and is you know, I'm sure politically getting
Speaker 3: rather war weary itself.
Speaker 20: Well, they're making it as they're making it as damaging
Speaker 20: for Israel as they can. But Israel has stripped them
Speaker 20: of capabilities, and that's one of the remarkable successes of
Speaker 20: the war. The decapitition strategy was meant to discombobulate the
Speaker 20: Iranians right at the very beginning, and that bought the
Speaker 20: Israelis a window to then degrade their capabilities somewhat. They've
Speaker 20: also the Israelis now have pretty much a completely permissive
Speaker 20: environment or nearly permissive environment for their planes in Iran.
Speaker 20: Iran cannot touch them, and Iran is not able, how
Speaker 20: many is not able to send the numbers of ballistic
Speaker 20: missiles at Israel that he thought he was going to have.
Speaker 20: He thought that would be a great deterrence. But the
Speaker 20: Israelis are have managed to suppress a lot of the
Speaker 20: fire from Iran. That's a remarkable achievement, by the way,
Speaker 20: because these missiles are on mobile launchers that are that
Speaker 20: are very hard to spot. And if the Iranians try
Speaker 20: to escalate against the Saudis or against the Americans themselves,
Speaker 20: well then I think they would.
Speaker 16: Will just have doomed the regime.
Speaker 20: So they're they're in a really tight spot right now,
Speaker 20: the tightest spot they've been in since the creation of
Speaker 20: the Islamic Republic.
Speaker 1: Michael Duran, That's why we love having new on shop
Speaker 1: Analysis as always, Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 1: We're just going to cross now alive to La. We've
Speaker 1: got some scenes. It seems the protests there have intensified
Speaker 1: and we've got police shooting non lethal rounds into the protesters.
Speaker 1: We've got some footage happening there. James, this is troubling
Speaker 1: because we don't want to see that. But then if
Speaker 1: you've got people who are being lawless, who are destroying
Speaker 1: public and private property, there's not much else you can
Speaker 1: do other.
Speaker 3: Than well, you know, the thing we've been in that
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about here is, you know, the whole dispute
Speaker 3: about should the LAPD be taking care of this or
Speaker 3: should you know, the National Guard or the Marias be
Speaker 3: taking care of it. Now, the thing that the Californians
Speaker 3: keep saying is, oh, well, the LAPD has this well
Speaker 3: in hand. The laped is capable of doing this. The
Speaker 3: LAPD is capable of putting down these protests. But I
Speaker 3: frankly don't think the California government and the Lost Airs
Speaker 3: government led by Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom, I don't
Speaker 3: actually think they have any political interest in forcefully properly
Speaker 3: putting these things down.
Speaker 2: So they'll let the LAPD fire off some smoke grenades
Speaker 2: and things like that.
Speaker 3: But you know, the political interest for the left government
Speaker 3: in California is to have these things keep festering because
Speaker 3: it looks like it's creating chaos for Donald Trump. It's
Speaker 3: a narrative, and we're seeing this spread through this no
Speaker 3: King's movement to other cities. There's a lot of other
Speaker 3: organizations and unions behind them. In many cases, many of
Speaker 3: the organizations that are helping to fulminate these conflicts are
Speaker 3: actually getting government funding. So it's quite you know, complex here,
Speaker 3: But I think that actually what we're seeing here. If
Speaker 3: those comps really wanted to end this, they could end it.
Speaker 3: But I don't think their bosses. They're doing a great
Speaker 3: job there, but their bosses are actually I think holding
Speaker 3: them back because for their bosses, more chaos for Donald
Speaker 3: Trump is what they want to see.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I want to say. And the lives
Speaker 1: of officers was put at risk. I think that's where
Speaker 1: there was an understanding that no, we do need the
Speaker 1: National Guard, and we actually do need the backup. And
Speaker 1: that's where the thoroughly hopeless mayor of La Karen Bass,
Speaker 1: actually did impose a curfew. But this is BLM two
Speaker 1: point zero. They did this back in their Summer of
Speaker 1: Love riots to try to paint this picture of chaos
Speaker 1: in Trump's America. It's their playbook, and I think this
Speaker 1: time Donald Trump's ready for it.
Speaker 2: Well, I think he is ready for it.
Speaker 3: He understood what they did in twenty twenty and reading
Speaker 3: you remember when we were in New York before that
Speaker 3: election and all the shops were boarded up because they
Speaker 3: expected that if Trump won, there was going to be
Speaker 3: rights the implicit violence, and.
Speaker 1: The Democrats won the boarding before came out.
Speaker 3: This is the implicit violence of the left, is that
Speaker 3: they use violence and the threat of violence to get
Speaker 3: their way because obviously they can't win on the argument.
Speaker 3: As we saw back in the election in November, what's
Speaker 3: happening here? Thougheople have even referred to this as a
Speaker 3: color revolution. You know, this idea that you create a
Speaker 3: kind of an alternative protest moving under a flag. It
Speaker 3: went from the Palestinian flag to the Mexican flag. Now,
Speaker 3: which is great because anything flag, but the.
Speaker 1: Americans very similar. But can I just go to a
Speaker 1: sheriff down in Florida, the red state of Florida. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is how you handle protesters. You won't have to
Speaker 1: have to see these scenes if you had this attitude
Speaker 1: from the start. We've got the grab. We're going to
Speaker 1: get that a grab very shortly. But it's I think
Speaker 1: it's instructive that these protests are happening predominantly in blue cities.
Speaker 1: So they're happening in La San Francisco, Chicago, New York.
Speaker 1: Obviously there's more lefties in those cities, but also law
Speaker 1: enforcement often has its hands hid behind their back. Not
Speaker 1: in Florida.
Speaker 21: If you resist law florders, you're going to jail. Let
Speaker 21: me be very clear about that. If you block an
Speaker 21: intersection or a roadway in Brevard County, you are going
Speaker 21: to jail. If you flee arrest, you're going to go
Speaker 21: to jail tired, because we are going to run you
Speaker 21: down and put you in jail. If you try to
Speaker 21: mob rule a car in Brevard County, gathering around it,
Speaker 21: refusing to let the driver leave in our county, you're
Speaker 21: most likely going to get run over and dragged across
Speaker 21: the street. If you spin on us, you're going to
Speaker 21: the hospital and in jail. If you hit one of us,
Speaker 21: you're going to the hospital and jail and most likely
Speaker 21: get bitten by one of our big beautiful dogs that
Speaker 21: we have here.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump about him.
Speaker 2: Mutile dogs, don't we people?
Speaker 10: I love it.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: We've got some saying some of the craziest scenes from
Speaker 1: these protests coming up after this break welcome back and
Speaker 1: watching out and We've seen these protests throughout the week.
Speaker 1: They're still going on today, and James, we've got scenes
Speaker 1: of a woman who single handedly thought she could stop
Speaker 1: a truck. Let's have a look, any help.
Speaker 15: Now, man, don't.
Speaker 2: Tell me, don't yell me, don't.
Speaker 4: Tell can you know me?
Speaker 1: Sorry? But the comedy there, Caroline throwing away the glasses,
Speaker 1: the mask that had don't kill me. Just get away
Speaker 1: from the truck. You obviously you know it's going at
Speaker 1: very low speed. Just go left.
Speaker 4: I think she was hoping.
Speaker 1: Actually, she wanted to be going to be she wanted
Speaker 1: to happen, she wanted to have her moments.
Speaker 4: And then when it took off, she was screaming.
Speaker 5: Without her still attached to it, she was screaming, I
Speaker 5: love you to the presumably I don't know the trollegal
Speaker 5: immigrants inside. I'm not sure who was being carried there,
Speaker 5: but yeah, it was deranged.
Speaker 3: So this is the whole thing, you know, Like, so
Speaker 3: this took place in New Jersey, right, Okay, So this
Speaker 3: is some sort of demonstration and all of these demonstrators
Speaker 3: are popping up, and you've got these activist groups that
Speaker 3: you know, get everybody together to try and stop the
Speaker 3: enforcement of federal law, so of course is basically insurrectionary
Speaker 3: and all of that. But because they don't like the
Speaker 3: results of the election, of their fighting against that, so
Speaker 3: I guess they're questioning democracy people.
Speaker 1: Now, Yes, yes, this is incredible. There's one riot that
Speaker 1: the Democrats have not liked in the last ten years,
Speaker 1: and that was the one on January sixth, So they
Speaker 1: tried to blow up into some sort of insurrection. But
Speaker 1: we're seeing these scenes daily, including just violent uprisings. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't joke because we've just had actual violence occur against
Speaker 1: elected officials out The language Caroline from so many Democrats
Speaker 1: is so inflamed and hyperbolic, likening Donald Trump to Hitler.
Speaker 1: Eric Swowell did that again in the past twenty four hours.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're talked about before Tim Waltz asking Democrats
Speaker 5: supporters to become more fierce angrier. We've seen Bernie Sanders
Speaker 5: come out and make comments to the same effect, and
Speaker 5: I think if it was the other way, the double
Speaker 5: standard is such that we'd already have think pieces before
Speaker 5: we know even the.
Speaker 1: Full motivations she's reacting.
Speaker 5: It's been whipped up by the Republicans, but we're not
Speaker 5: hearing it.
Speaker 3: It's the violence has always come from the left, is
Speaker 3: always glorified left since the French Revolution. But the last
Speaker 3: year we've seen the whole thing with Luigi Vanjoni and
Speaker 3: the glorification of the guy who killed allegedly that you
Speaker 3: healthcare CEO.
Speaker 1: This is you know, absolutely let's have another example of
Speaker 1: it right here.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 1: I can tell you if that was a Democrat politician
Speaker 1: who had two assassination attempts against him that we know about,
Speaker 1: that we know about, we wouldn't have that being presented
Speaker 1: as just a bit of fun and.
Speaker 3: Frovolation and having the kids going out there and being
Speaker 3: encouraged to go and have a big whack at the president.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, this is just worse than a joke.
Speaker 3: Here. This is again the violent left doing what it's
Speaker 3: doing and transmitting its hate to the next generation.
Speaker 1: Well, Donald Trump is up to this challenge this time.
Speaker 1: This is such a dramatically different administerstra from the first
Speaker 1: time around. Now, that's it for us, but you'll see
Speaker 1: us throughout the week on Sky News. I'll see you
Speaker 1: Monday to Thursday at eleven pm for the Rita Pannekey Show. Friday,
Speaker 1: we've got the whole team, Rowan Dean, James Morrow, myself,
Speaker 1: and we'll be back here Sunday and Rowan Dean will
Speaker 1: be back. But that's all for this week. Up next
Speaker 1: is Ross Greenwood with Business Weekend. Thanks for joining us.