WEBVTT - Just how undervalued is women’s work? 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.880 We call mums superwomen and superheroes, but then we don't 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:06.120 actually give them the infrastructure to do parenting well and 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.400 in a way that makes them feel healthier and looked after. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:10.360 Yeah, this is just another example of that. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.200 Yeah, exactly right, and it goes to show just how 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:17.440 much women's work gets undervalued. Caring for people, keeping them alive. 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:21.439 We treat it as calling something women do out of love, oh, which. 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:22.400 I see all the time. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.920 This podcast was recorded on the lands of the boon 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:29.840 Warong people of the Kulin nation, the land on which 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.760 we're lucky enough to raise our sons and daughters, always 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.280 was and always will be Aboriginal land. 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.840 Hello, and welcome to Ready or Not, the show where 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.160 two mums try to figure out how to make work work. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.560 I'm low, I'm li and coming. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.880 Up on today's show, I'm intrigued by this segment pay 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.360 me like a cop, The maths of who we actually 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:50.880 value was you're bringing that to me and then me 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:54.800 to you. Unpacking a very unofficial state of working motherhood 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.640 report was I took to Instagram to find out, however, 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:01.440 sort of fearing feeling about motherhood and work at the 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.600 moment it's mid year, I thought it was a good 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.280 time to reassess see where the people are at. I 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.000 feel like we also get a lot of dms where 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.200 people like how do other moms feel about X, Y 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.959 and Z might help answer some questions for the people. 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.280 But first, what's going on? Ah Man? 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.600 I have just done three weeks of solo parenting and 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.000 I am. 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.760 Cook clat for her forgetting home. I am so exhausted. 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.680 I feel like the first week was actually fine because 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.520 I could just run my own show. The second week 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.600 was okay, but I could definitely tell the kids were 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.640 starting to get just a bit more rebellious. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:38.920 Interesting, I wouldn't have even thought of the kids. I 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:40.119 was just to give you the whole no. 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.440 And then by week three, I feel like everyone is 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:44.000 just over it. 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:44.480 I've had. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.160 My patience is so thin. I was actually, I mean, 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:48.920 as much as I laugh about this, I was speaking 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.120 to a girlfriend in tears the other day because I 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.520 feel like I can't be the mum that I want 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:58.080 to be because my patience is stretched so thin with 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:02.200 like the constant asks, constant questions, and constant I don't 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.000 want to do that, I want to eat that's yuck. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:05.680 That I get to the point where I'm. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:10.760 Like, you just become stretched. It's really it's a fucked feeling. Yeah, 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.240 it's hard. I absolutely lose it at my kids. 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.360 And I felt like, especially if you've had it for 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.200 like a sustained period where it's not just like a 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:18.760 little blow up and then you repair, but like if 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:19.440 you feel like you've. 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:20.799 Been doing that for a day or two in a row, 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:22.359 it's one of the worst feelings. 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.120 It's awful, you know, for anybody else going through the 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:26.920 same thing. And I went to bed the other night 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:28.400 and she really didn't want to go to bed. She 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:29.840 was like, I don't want to go to bed. I'm 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:31.600 not going to bed. And I was like, it's time 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.480 to go to bed, Like it's quarter past eight, it's time. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.120 She's like, nope, I'm not tired. And the real problem 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.240 was that I was exhausted, like mentally physically. 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.240 I need to go to bed, like I need sleep. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:44.600 Yeah, And I was like, Okay, we can stay in 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.560 your room, but she shares a room with Zave, and 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:51.359 then she was like singing and banging toys and it 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:53.120 got to the point where I. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.560 Was like, that is it. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.600 I was like, get to sleep, Like I screamed, ye 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.120 and I'm just not that person. I'm like, you know what, 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.480 I feel like, I don't know how So like I 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.240 genuinely I don't know how solo parents do it. I 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.960 have so much help, so much help, Like I could 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.120 outsource more if I really really needed to. But like, 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.679 I've got my dad, my brother, his partner, I've got 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.520 amazing network of friends, I've got a babysitter, and yet 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.160 I'm still drowning. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:23.519 It is a lot. 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:27.880 So for anyone going through solo parenting or you know, 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:29.520 maybe you've got a five faux partner. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.160 Yeah, yeah, five faux partner, or just you know. 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.320 Maybe do the brunt of the work week by yourself. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.200 My hat goes off to you because it is I'm 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:39.600 so god, is. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.800 It even so tiring? Or is there a breakdown? 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:43.720 No, there's a lot of trips coming up, But you 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:45.440 know what, take the good with the bad. 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:50.640 The other thing I wanted to touch on, I'll just 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:51.200 hand it out. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:52.080 Yeah, I hand it out. 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:53.440 The only other thing I was going to touch on 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.280 is two things. Number one one thing that has actually 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.600 been making my life slightly easier. And this is a 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.440 bit random and it's not a plug per se, But 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.280 if you haven't already used mingle seasoning. 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:05.200 That's such a great business. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:06.960 They're such a great business, and they're so easy. They've 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:08.840 got these saucers that you can add to a chicken, 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.240 and they add to a chicken. This is how tight 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.880 am add a chicken bee for whatever. I've been going 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.200 through almost all of them and doing a stir fry 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.200 or yep, quick flavor. Oh, they're a game changer. I'm 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:21.640 just going to buy out there. If you haven't tried them, 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:22.080 please do. 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:22.880 I love that. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.440 My next thing is I had a few odd comments 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:31.000 about childcare that I just wanted to clarify. I gave 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.200 comment for an article in the Herald Sun recently about 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.160 childcare and the potential of costs going up by twenty percent, 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.039 and the fact that my old scent I was charging 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.080 two hundred twenty one dollars per day. A lot of 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.080 people are actually in the same boat. All of their 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.080 centers are quite expensive and they're going up. But I 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.240 did have quite a few comments of people that said, well, 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.040 you must earn more. You must live in a nice area, 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.080 because my childcare doesn't cost that much in my area. Also, 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.240 for those people that are paying more, you earn more 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.680 so the system is fair, And I do. 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.359 Want to debunk this head on. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.919 According to the A Triple C, about half of the 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:07.000 lowest income households spend between five and twenty one percent 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:12.360 of their disposable income on childcare yep, even though they 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.799 get a bigger government rebate. Compare that to the top 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.200 income earners. So half of the highest income households spend 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.880 roughly two to nine percent of their disposable income on it. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.960 The atriple C's own words, the cost burden is felt 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.320 most by households already facing disadvantage. So for all those 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.440 people in my inbox that have this rhetoric that the 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:32.200 more you. 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.960 Earn the more you should pay, fine, but you're fighting 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.520 the fight for everybody. But exactly right. 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.960 But I'm also suggesting where people like, oh, the rebate's 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.040 fair though, because you know, the more you earn, the 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.480 more you pay. But it's actually not fair. It's proportioned 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:46.360 to how much you're earning. 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.680 Yeah, and so you're less out of pocket on average 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:54.080 as a higher income earner than people with earning less income. Yeah, 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.400 So it's not fair to lower income earners or higher 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:57.200 It's not fair anyone. 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:58.279 It's not fit to anyone. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:00.440 I just want to hit the nail on the head 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:05.400 with that one, because sometimes I think people assume things 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.760 about my family situation or how much everybody earns or 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.200 whatever that might look like. And I work full time, 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.480 my husband works full time. We're we slogging our absolute 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.560 guts off, and we are both earning decent wages. I 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:21.680 would say, but I am still very aware that schemes 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.719 like this don't just impact me. 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.000 Yeah, you're not fine. You're not like poor richer us than. 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.320 How the people are as much money as us. You're like, 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.760 the system is not working exactly right. 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:34.440 So that's just a gripe that. 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.039 I had that I'm like, I have to say. 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:37.800 It because this is when people think this. 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:39.840 I get what people are saying when they say that, 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.960 but to think that you're sitting there and saying like 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:44.080 poor me, It's just. 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:45.600 It's not what you're about. No. 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.479 I mean, I do feel sorry for myself because I'm like, 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.159 it's a fuck load of money that we're spending on charge. 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.040 Yet also, can we instead divert our energies of like 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:56.120 robust debates to the fact that centers are benefiting more 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:57.000 than anyone. 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.200 The businesses, not the educator exactly. 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.800 Businesses, Yes, of helping raise our children while we just 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.520 scramble to work so we can affoord love. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.760 Yeah, and yes, it looks different for everyone. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.839 And yes, I totally get it for lower income owners. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:13.120 But we're all about fing for everyone. Yes, well said 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:17.800 the kids in there, big kid beds, speaking of slate hosey, 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:19.400 how you getting none? 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.120 Look, once she's settled, she's not too bad. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.760 Yeah, it's probably like one call out during the night. Yeah, fun, 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:27.960 but ten o'clock is her bedtime. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:29.679 At the moment, it's fucked. 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.880 Yeah, and she's just like no, sweetie, like see enough, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.000 But it's more like I want to read books, but 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:36.920 then she won't read a book with you. Yeah, and 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.400 it's just like I've found my independent sweetie. Yes, I 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.320 can get out of this thing, yep, and I will 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.760 striving us bonkers. Hayden's like, I think we should set 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.600 the cut up again, and I'm like, no, she's always 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.640 been a low need sleeper. I feel like this is 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.000 will run into the same issue is six once. 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:51.960 And it's dangerous. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:53.800 If they can climb out of her, that's my whole 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.840 thing I think would be the danger aspect. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.960 Yeah, and I think that would now be her Emma. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.400 Yes, I'm not staying in here, Yeah, stay in beds anymore. 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.120 And you know what it does, change, sleep changes all 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:04.440 the time. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.280 Yeah, we just got to get through it. Yeah. 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.280 I think it's that transition phase, so of moving from 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.040 a cot to a bed, and for the first couple 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:11.840 of months or first couple of weeks, usually it's fine. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.080 You're like, what's everyone talking about? It's not a problem. 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.480 But they click and they're like, I can get out 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.120 of my bed whenever I want. 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.200 Because we did it with Ray, it's actually a non 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.240 issue because he's a bit older. You can understand it 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.480 actually just worked like he's fine. But Posey is two 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.280 and a half, which I think would bear around the 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.960 average age moved to beds. We should actually pull that 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:32.920 one day. I'd be interested because one of my friends 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.640 had to move her daughter into a bed at one 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.559 because she was already starting to climb out. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:44.120 I mean, skill, I'm impressed world one day. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:46.600 But yeah, with Right, it's been less of an issue 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:47.920 because I feel like he's a little bit more I 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.200 don't know, mature, quote unquote, but Posey's just like, this 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.600 is sick. I love her I'm coming to see your 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.720 mother and dirt, and then she still wake you up 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:56.160 really early. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.720 So that's my big kid bed update. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:01.679 A poem that I want to read, and I need 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.800 to start by saying, obviously, a lot of the time 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:06.520 we can't help our need to rush. 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:08.920 I'm not speaking of paid. 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.560 Work days particularly and when you need to be in 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.760 office with the poem about to read out. But it 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.840 was pretty fortuitous. The other night, four of us had 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.200 a drink. One of my friends is a psychologist, and 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:19.640 I was saying to her. I was talking about the 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:23.240 psychology of like even on our home day, getting the 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.600 kids in the car after swimming, for example, Yeah, we 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.160 have nowhere that we actually need to be, but I'm 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.040 like seething with like please get in the car, and 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:32.760 I'm trying so hard not to be but You're like, 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.360 it's so ingrained in us to rush. I think that 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.280 you're just like I literally feel like I'm about to 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.160 fizz out, like bubbles are about to come out of 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:40.640 my head. I'm like, get in the fucking car. And 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.440 then I'm like, why are you trying to get them 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.320 in the car. We don't need to be anywhere, So 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.200 I want to read out this poem for these for 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.720 those days. Again, I'm not trying to guilt you into 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:49.760 never rushing on a workday. 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:50.160 People. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.080 Please don't be like, oh, that's unhelpful. This is for 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.520 your weekends. It's for your times where you have nowhere 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.160 to be and that you still rush. It's called Hurry, 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.040 and it's by Marie Howe. We stop at the dry 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.360 cleaners and the grocery store and the gas station and 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.120 the green market, and hurry up, honey, I say, hurry, 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.600 as she runs along two or three steps behind me, 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.440 her blue jacket unzipped and her socks rolled down. Where 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.480 do I want her to hurry to? To her grave, 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.760 to mine where one day she might stand or groan? Today, 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.880 when all the errands are finally done, I say to her, Honey, 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.280 I'm sorry I keep saying hurry. 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:22.160 You walk ahead of me. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.120 You be the mother, and hurry up, she says over 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.120 her shoulder, looking back at me, laughing. Hurry up, now, darling, 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.600 she says, hurry, hurry, taking the house keys from her hands, 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.079 taking the house keys from my hands. I fucking love 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.520 that poem. Yeah, I love the sentiment. I know you're 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:38.880 not as into that sort of speak. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.720 Actual stuff as me, but it literally made me slow 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:42.439 down the next day. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.480 So on a Thursday, Ray has a weird half day 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.760 of Kinder that starts at twelve thirty. Yes, Posey's got 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.400 a full childcare day, but I don't tend to work 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.160 in that morning unless Hades is home and. 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.160 I'll go off for a workday. But if it's me 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:55.680 on that day, I don't. 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.800 I only work top three to three the normally because 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:00.959 of what you pay for child care and whatnot. I'm 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.480 like still stressed about getting her there. But yesterday I 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.960 didn't wear the best morning ever yet of a ten thirty, 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.120 and I was like, sometimes we actually do need the 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:09.120 reminder to slow down. 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.199 So there's mine to yours. I love. I'll give you 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:12.080 some good news. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.680 Good news are Perth building firm Indigo Commercial advertised for 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:20.360 five new laborers and got over two thousand, seven hundred 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:25.160 applications for five jobs. And the reason they offered six 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.280 hour shifts built around school hours legends. 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:28.520 Oh we love you. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.560 Let go give this company an absolute call out, and 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.160 I want to call out the CEO too. Tasha Watkins 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:35.880 designed the shift so that you could pick your pattern, 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:37.880 drop the kids off, and news after school care in 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.080 the afternoon, or do the morning care and pick up 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.040 run or cover both drop off and pick up yourself. 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:45.880 What a legend. And she didn't dream this up in 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:46.400 the boardroom. 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.400 She said her whole view on workplace flexibility changed after 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:50.280 she became a mum. 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:51.640 She's got two hundred two. 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.840 Eighteen years in the industry, and she basically said, knowing 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.760 what I know about this industry, I wouldn't apply it 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.199 for a blue collar roll myself. So and I love 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.720 this line. She went, well, this is broken and it 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:01.439 needs to be fixed. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.240 And this is how do you know what I. 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:07.240 Love most about what is ostensibly just full of stuff 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:11.439 to love is that it's hiring laborers, like it's not 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.400 necessarily a female center job or what we consider to 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.199 be the work of women, which I just fucking love 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:18.600 your legend, Tata. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.959 I hope you hear this. You're a great woman, You're 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.400 a leader in your community, you are We love you. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:28.800 We do. Now let's get into it, my friend. How 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.960 much do we value caregiving wrong? How much do we 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:33.760 value them? Great question? 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.720 A while back I did a segment on teachers and 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:41.280 it went absolutely gangbusters brilliant, And today I want to 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.080 talk about nurses. A friend of mine who has a 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.760 parent in aged care rang the other day and she 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.280 was just done over. 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:49.080 It, had enough. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:53.400 And as she was talking, she said, the staffer wonderful, 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.080 as in, they genuinely are amazing, but there's just never 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.160 enough of them. So she said, it's like one nurse 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.920 for an entire war. You've got people that are capable. 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.600 I mean, they're not in palliative care, but there's obviously 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.360 a lot of needs from older people. So whether it's 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.200 like helping them get out of bed or helping them 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:10.720 stand up, happing them go to the bathroom, you know, 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.800 there's general things, yeah, fine things, Yeah, lots of different requests. 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.520 And I think she'd probably spent about fifteen minutes trying 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.480 to ask for someone for help. I think it was 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.600 showering her dad, maybe just for some support. And she 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.840 just said it took so long. She said, what is 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:25.560 going on here? 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.599 That's so hard? Yeah, And so it gave me a 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:29.120 bit of time. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.240 It was a question that she said around how amazing 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.720 the staff are, but how the system just isn't built 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:35.880 to support them. 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.720 Much like childcare, right, yeah, absolutely right. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.480 So I decided to do a little bit of digging, 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.679 and I was gobsmacked at some of this stuff, so 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.960 I'm really excited to share it. So this is a 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.800 federal Department of Health and Aged Care, their nursing Supply 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.000 and Demand study. They are projecting that by twenty thirty five, 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.920 Australia will be short more than it's seventy thousand full 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:01.280 time nurses. So my word, yeah, that's nearly and in 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.680 reality that's probably more. So that's more likely to be 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.600 eighty thousand people because a lot of nurses work part time, yes, 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:13.120 and the worst hit part hospitals, acute care, the places 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.880 you go when it's an emergency, So these places will 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.520 be short more than twenty six thousand nurses. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:22.960 That's actually terrifying for whatever about emergency workers in that context. 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.080 And then there's primary healthcare, then aged care, which is 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.440 exactly where my friend's parent is sitting right now. So 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:31.560 I thought I knew the whole story about nursing. I 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.960 was like, oh, it's obviously because people don't want to 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.880 do that anymore, maybe the pay shit. I'm actually wrong, 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.920 which is surprising. Figures from the Department of Education say 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.040 that more people are signing up to become nurses, so 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.760 the nursing degree enrollments have gone up about seven percent 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:47.800 over the last decade. 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.040 Wow, that is a brilliant start and I never would 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:51.680 have predicted it. 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.600 Yeap more than twenty thousand new starters a year, while 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.440 teaching degrees for comparison dropped by nearly fourteen percent. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:00.520 I honestly would have guessed the way around. 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.040 Okay, So I knew that teaching degrees had dropped for sure, 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.200 because the worst I had. 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:05.480 To pick one of them, I would have thought. 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.320 I would have thought that if both of them have dropped, Yeah, 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.120 like there, I would have thought, oh, you know what, 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:09.920 across the board. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:10.760 Across the board. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:12.800 So when we kind of dig into the starter, it 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.480 means that recruitment's obviously not a problem. More people wanting 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.080 to become a nurse. People are obviously putting their hands up, 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.640 so then we train them, but then we obviously burn 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.480 them out and then they walk. It's a leaky bucket, 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.320 and you cannot fix a leaky bucket by pouring more 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.000 water in the top. So this brings me to my DMS. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.080 Late last year, the new South Wales government did a 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.520 pay deal with the police. It is a male dominated field. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.520 They averaged a rise of twenty six percent over four 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.640 years in New South Wales has made them the best 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.360 paid cops in the country. So the very next day 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.160 up to ten thousand nurses and midwives walked off the job. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.680 This is because they are the lowest paid in the 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:48.960 country and what did they end up getting through the 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:53.720 industrial umpire nominal rises? It landed below inflation in real terms, 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.040 a paid cut, essentially while being told that they're not 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:57.920 allowed to strike. 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:01.440 Are you not allowed to do that again? Yeah? 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.720 So I just want to put this figures side by side. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:08.120 Police overwhelmingly male workforce twenty six percent pay rise. Nurses 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.200 overwhelmingly female workforce are pay cut. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:12.720 Oh that's so depressing. 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.080 Yep, And the nurses union said it flat out, female 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.240 dominated unions are being left behind. How does that make 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.600 you feel? When I put those two figures by side 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:23.640 by side, I. 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.360 Feel really really emotional right now, Like my eyes are 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:27.680 a little tiniest bit wet. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:29.360 That makes me really sad. Yeah. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:33.480 It just goes to show how fucking pervasive, like the 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.360 infiltration of undervaluing care work goes. 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.000 Anything that's related. 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.720 To care work, which is female's care work, feminized care 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.960