1
00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,200
Speaker 1: Welcome to Healthy Ish. Yes you have tuned into the

2
00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,000
Speaker 1: podcast from Body and Soul. I am your host of

3
00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,440
Speaker 1: Felicity Harley. To celebrate summer, we're dropping our top Healthish

4
00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,719
Speaker 1: episodes of the year. Now. This one we dropped earlier

5
00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,160
Speaker 1: in the year. I think it was around April. It

6
00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,119
Speaker 1: is with fitness Mogul and pt Emily Sky and she

7
00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,040
Speaker 1: shared how for decades she felt broken and then she

8
00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,320
Speaker 1: was diagnosed with ADHD and suddenly everything made well, somewhat sense.

9
00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,960
Speaker 1: She shares more about that in this episode today. Now

10
00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,280
Speaker 1: make sure you're listening to Extra healthy Ish as well,

11
00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,800
Speaker 1: where she shares more about her entire ADHD journey. You

12
00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:51,760
Speaker 1: can catch that one where we get your podcasts. Emily

13
00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,000
Speaker 1: is so nice to have you back on healthy She's

14
00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,400
Speaker 1: been a few years since you were on here.

15
00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,720
Speaker 2: Actually it has, Felicity, it's been too long, so it's good.

16
00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,600
Speaker 1: To be better. Yeah, nice to have you back. And

17
00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,360
Speaker 1: do we say congratulations or what do we say? I'm

18
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,559
Speaker 1: not sure what to say. I just want to say

19
00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,800
Speaker 1: thank you, well, thank you. That's probably the best words,

20
00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,560
Speaker 1: isn't it. It takes a lot of courage to come out

21
00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,319
Speaker 1: and talk about a diagnosis of neurodiversity. How are you feeling?

22
00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,399
Speaker 2: I think it's the reason I decided to share is

23
00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,440
Speaker 2: because I think it's so important that we do talk

24
00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,240
Speaker 2: about these things and we don't feel shame around it,

25
00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,080
Speaker 2: which I think a lot of people do. And I

26
00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,840
Speaker 2: think the more you talk about it, the more people

27
00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,240
Speaker 2: can get help and they become aware of themselves and

28
00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,080
Speaker 2: they know what to do as well because they can

29
00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,320
Speaker 2: see what other people do help themselves.

30
00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,360
Speaker 1: Are you feeling relieved? Are you feeling prior do you

31
00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,319
Speaker 1: feeling less shame?

32
00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,319
Speaker 2: Yes, I have a sense of relief because now I

33
00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,520
Speaker 2: know I've got answers right. All my life I've felt

34
00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,040
Speaker 2: odd and now I know, hey, could this has been

35
00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,280
Speaker 2: affecting me? And I know that there is something that

36
00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,520
Speaker 2: I can actually do about it. So there's a sense

37
00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,560
Speaker 2: of relief, but also a bit of grief because of

38
00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,920
Speaker 2: the life that I may have. I don't know if

39
00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,800
Speaker 2: missed out on is the right word, because I have

40
00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,680
Speaker 2: had an amazing life and I'm very blessed, but there's

41
00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,480
Speaker 2: been a lot of situations where I felt like I

42
00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,320
Speaker 2: could have dealt with them better had I have had

43
00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:10,920
Speaker 2: the support and the knowledge.

44
00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Actually that's a really valid emotion, isn't it,

45
00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,000
Speaker 1: Because I've never actually heard of someone talk about grief

46
00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,080
Speaker 1: when they've been diagnosed with with whatever it may be,

47
00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,320
Speaker 1: but grief of thinking Okay, I could have managed this better.

48
00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot. It was very confronting.

49
00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,480
Speaker 2: And one of the things the psychiatrist said to me

50
00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,480
Speaker 2: after I sat with him ninety minutes actually it took

51
00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,720
Speaker 2: he said, I'm surprised that you didn't end up a

52
00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,919
Speaker 2: drug addict on the street with the way that your

53
00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,400
Speaker 2: brain is. Wow. And I was like, whoa, wow, Wow.

54
00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,760
Speaker 1: He was surprised that I don't do drug Wow. Maybe

55
00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,440
Speaker 1: fitness is your is your other? Is your other drugs?

56
00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,560
Speaker 2: Exactly? And he kept saying, he kept saying, how do

57
00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,200
Speaker 2: you deal with this? And then I told him, with fitness,

58
00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,200
Speaker 2: I have to stay active otherwise I start just losing

59
00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,480
Speaker 2: my mind a bit. Yeah.

60
00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, I mean I feel like, well, there has

61
00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,840
Speaker 1: been a long list of home profile women that you've

62
00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,000
Speaker 1: now joined who have shared the ADHD journey. I mean

63
00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,120
Speaker 1: Abby Chatfield and Riachiana. Actually we had her on the

64
00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,960
Speaker 1: podcast discussing it as well. I mean, women have been

65
00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,200
Speaker 1: too long ignored in this space. How does that make

66
00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,040
Speaker 1: you feel.

67
00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,640
Speaker 2: We have definitely been ignored and the funny thing, it

68
00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,880
Speaker 2: was not funny, definitely, the wrong turns were ironic. Thing. Yes,

69
00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,440
Speaker 2: it's back back when I was a kid and a teenager.

70
00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,440
Speaker 2: I was actually put on antidepressants around the age of

71
00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,560
Speaker 2: twelve or thirteen, and I really struggled as a kid

72
00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,680
Speaker 2: with my mental health, especially all through my teens, and

73
00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,720
Speaker 2: I spoke to many psychologists and counselors, doctors trying to

74
00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,040
Speaker 2: figure out what's wrong, and nobody mentioned ADHD because I

75
00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,280
Speaker 2: was shy, right, I wasn't the kid in class. I

76
00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,080
Speaker 2: wasn't the boy that was playing out, which was the

77
00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,160
Speaker 2: typical ADHD.

78
00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,000
Speaker 1: Person. I guess.

79
00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,560
Speaker 2: So I think that's why I got overlooked along with

80
00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,000
Speaker 2: many other women. And it's only now that we're starting

81
00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,800
Speaker 2: to get diagnosed more.

82
00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, more awareness around it, and you know, people like

83
00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,960
Speaker 1: you coming out, so thank you. Now you did a

84
00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,200
Speaker 1: recent shoot with Body and Soul. How was that, By

85
00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,640
Speaker 1: the way, it was so good. It was really I mean,

86
00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,360
Speaker 1: you're going to see the photos everyone to make sure

87
00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,640
Speaker 1: you get a copy. But it's very different for me.

88
00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm not going to give away too much, but I've

89
00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,080
Speaker 2: never done anything like it, and I was really excited

90
00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,279
Speaker 2: to do that. Yeah, well you also there was a

91
00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,680
Speaker 2: line in the story that kind of jumped out at me,

92
00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,760
Speaker 2: and you told body and soul, no one deserves to

93
00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,960
Speaker 2: go through life feeling like a broken human. I mean

94
00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,080
Speaker 2: my heart just went, oh oh, that's hard to read.

95
00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:42,080
Speaker 2: How did you feel broken before this diagnosis? I've always

96
00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,560
Speaker 2: felt different, like I don't fit in with anyone, and

97
00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,440
Speaker 2: a sense of not belonging. That's something I've struggled with,

98
00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,720
Speaker 2: and it sort of sits with self worth as well

99
00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,719
Speaker 2: as obviously many different things that contribute to how someone

100
00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,919
Speaker 2: feels right. It's not just ADHD, but I think not

101
00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,760
Speaker 2: knowing I always had an inkling I was, but I

102
00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,599
Speaker 2: wasn't sure. And yeah, I just didn't feel like I

103
00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,919
Speaker 2: fit in anywhere, and I felt very odd and I

104
00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,680
Speaker 2: felt like people didn't understand me. I almost feel like

105
00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,160
Speaker 2: even now taking someone and going, don't you understand this

106
00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,760
Speaker 2: is how I feel. It's difficult for me, and I

107
00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,239
Speaker 2: felt I did feel ashamed to feel that way because

108
00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,080
Speaker 2: I am very blessed. I have a great life, I

109
00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,159
Speaker 2: have a great career, I have a beautiful family, have

110
00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,760
Speaker 2: my health, and I felt like it was I wasn't

111
00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,040
Speaker 2: being grateful, And it's not that. It's that I struggled

112
00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,360
Speaker 2: to do normal things. Even just waking up in the

113
00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,880
Speaker 2: morning and doing a normal day would stress me out

114
00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,640
Speaker 2: and I have terribly anxiety over it.

115
00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,800
Speaker 1: What advice would you give to women who are feeling

116
00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,840
Speaker 1: similar things that you are? I mean, I yeah, I mean.

117
00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,159
Speaker 1: It's an interesting conundrum, isn't it. Because you were saying

118
00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,239
Speaker 1: that you feel, you know, you have to be grateful

119
00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,000
Speaker 1: and you should be happy, and people are saying, but

120
00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,760
Speaker 1: you've you know, you've got this great life, You've got

121
00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,880
Speaker 1: a beautiful family, you had a great career, you're fit,

122
00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,760
Speaker 1: and you're healthy. But it's on my don't You're not

123
00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,640
Speaker 1: You're not allowed to give your self permission to feel well.

124
00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,080
Speaker 2: Brod entitled exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I kept and

125
00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,960
Speaker 2: I still do it now, but I'm learning to go

126
00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,839
Speaker 2: easier with myself. But that was the voice in my

127
00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,200
Speaker 2: head that i'd hear and from other people. Stop being ungrateful,

128
00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,760
Speaker 2: that you know you're blessed, and it's not that, because

129
00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,400
Speaker 2: it's actually a structural issue with your brain. It's I

130
00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,919
Speaker 2: don't know what else. I'm not a neuroscientist, but you know,

131
00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,039
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that are actually there that

132
00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,560
Speaker 2: are different to your normal, normal person. It's what's normal.

133
00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, but we'll just call it normal in

134
00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,799
Speaker 2: the situation. Yeah, and I've gotten lost now, Adhd, thank you.

135
00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,839
Speaker 1: No, No, let me ask you another question. What advice

136
00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,640
Speaker 1: would you give to other women who are perhaps identifying

137
00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,760
Speaker 1: with you, who feel like they're not so called normal.

138
00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying that in their quotes.

139
00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well number one, seek help, So don't just

140
00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,159
Speaker 2: stay the way you are. There's always something you can do.

141
00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,800
Speaker 2: So for me, I decided to seek out a psychiatrist.

142
00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,919
Speaker 2: I've got a referral from my doctor. I got on

143
00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,920
Speaker 2: many different lists because it's a long wait list, up

144
00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,520
Speaker 2: to eighteen months or even longer.

145
00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,240
Speaker 1: Oh wow, and I was very lucky.

146
00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,640
Speaker 2: I got a cancelation pretty much the next day. It

147
00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,920
Speaker 2: was like the most amazing thing happened. I couldn't believe it.

148
00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,440
Speaker 2: And yeah, I took the appointment, obviously, and sat with

149
00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,200
Speaker 2: a psychiatrist for the ninety minutes and did an evaluation,

150
00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,720
Speaker 2: went back to my history. I had my partner declan,

151
00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,280
Speaker 2: who's my fance? Now I've got to get used to say,

152
00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,160
Speaker 2: sitting with me, which is also another important thing that

153
00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,160
Speaker 2: the people around you actually understand and then speak to someone,

154
00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,840
Speaker 2: speak to a psychiatrist preferably or a psychologist, and do

155
00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,160
Speaker 2: that regularly. So you've got to find out what things

156
00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,680
Speaker 2: that you can do to help yourself and make sure

157
00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,400
Speaker 2: you stay on top of it. So I like to

158
00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,840
Speaker 2: use analogy. It's like fitness. If you want to be fit,

159
00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,160
Speaker 2: you've got to be consistent with your training. If you

160
00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,920
Speaker 2: want healthy mental health, then you've got to be consistent

161
00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,600
Speaker 2: with whatever it is that helps you.

162
00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,360
Speaker 1: Do you feel like now that you've had these diagnosis

163
00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,840
Speaker 1: that you kind of belong do you feel like that's

164
00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,880
Speaker 1: given you a sense that I do have more Yeah, yeah.

165
00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,200
Speaker 2: Yes, more of a sense of belonging and understanding myself

166
00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,880
Speaker 2: cutting myself from slack. I've been doing a lot of research.

167
00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,680
Speaker 2: It's my hyper fixation I've been using and the obsessiveness.

168
00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,840
Speaker 2: But as soon as I got the diagnosis, I was

169
00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,280
Speaker 2: just on YouTube, like binge, watching different things about ADHD

170
00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,640
Speaker 2: and other people's experience with it as well, and I

171
00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,040
Speaker 2: was like, Yes, this person understands me even though I've

172
00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,280
Speaker 2: never met them. Yeah, it's a good I think it's

173
00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,760
Speaker 2: really important for anyone to have that sense of belonging

174
00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:36,880
Speaker 2: and finding your people.

175
00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, finding you people. Were well done, And thank you

176
00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,199
Speaker 1: for being so bold and courageous and coming out well

177
00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,239
Speaker 1: across you know, in the fabulous shoot and on the podcast.

178
00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, thanks for joing so much.

179
00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,760
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me Felicity and I look forward to

180
00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:56,440
Speaker 2: seeing the magazine come out. Thank you for listening to

181
00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,679
Speaker 2: this interview as part of our twenty twenty four summer series.

182
00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,000
Speaker 2: Are plenty more awesome epps for your ears, both from

183
00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,720
Speaker 2: Healthy Ish and our big sister podcast, Extra healthy Ish.

184
00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,200
Speaker 2: If you did like this interview, please take a quick

185
00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,840
Speaker 2: minute to share it with a friend. If you do

186
00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,800
Speaker 2: want any other info, head to bodyansoul dot com, dot you.

187
00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,439
Speaker 1: Follows on socials. Any feedback please dm me at Felicity

188
00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,800
Speaker 1: Harley and until tomorrow, enjoy the sun and stay healthy

189
00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:22,920
Speaker 1: is