1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is the Fitting and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: After a countdown that's spanned months and a few upsets, 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 2: Billboard has now named the greatest pop star of the 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: twenty first century. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Okay, twenty first century, So you're talking about one hundred 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: year period? Am I missing something? 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 3: The last this century? 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: From two thousand and one? 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 4: Right, thank god? Twenty four it's very confusing sometime. 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Can I don't know why you do it less than 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: a quarter in, but go. 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: On, okay, let's do this. Can I get a drum roll? 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: Plays Jess because there's going to be controversy. 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: Beyonce taking a one. 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: That's my girl? 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: Now that's okay. 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: Now, I know what the the fellow members of Educator 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: thinking right here. This is a travesty. It's an absolute joke. 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: Taylor'swive comes in at number two. Taylor should have been 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: number one. 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: I know what you think. 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 5: No, well, not necessarily. I mean she would come in 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 5: a close second. 25 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: He's got a rich history. Like let's go back. If 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: we go back over the twenty four years, I would 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: suggest she has been a stronger presence in the music 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: industry over Taylor. 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: Are they doing it? Did they give it to her 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 4: because she's never one album of the year. 31 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: You can't start jibing and what I'm saying throwing. 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 5: No, No, what I'm saying is it's like, oh, well 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 5: you get that, you know, you get that prize, and 34 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 5: we've got this prize over here. We're going to give 35 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 5: that to Beyonce. Look, I'm staying out of it. I 36 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 5: think I actually love Beyonce. Can can create a wonderful 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 5: music clip. 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: You can't throw a pool and then try and clean 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: it up. 40 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: It's a message you don't Yeah you you, I see 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: you don't have a podcast some Beyonce though, interesting. 42 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 5: Well no, because she hasn't had a world tour. She's 43 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 5: had plenty, but not that, but not this year. 44 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 4: I mean maybe next year, Beyonce, come on out. We'll 45 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 4: do a few. 46 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: Can we play Halo fits? Who else is on the list? 47 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: Okay? 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: So Rihanna comes in at number three. This really this 49 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: is where it gets really controversial. 50 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: I agree with Rihanna. I think Rihanna is unbelievable, But 51 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 3: this is coming in at number four. Is Drake give me. 52 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: Give a huge break, Drake. 53 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I'm on with you. He's on his 54 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: way out here. Next year. 55 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: I think if anyone say hugely overrated. 56 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: So they're saying that he is the most successful male 57 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 2: artist in the twenty first century. 58 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: Can we just break something down for a minute. Are 59 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: we talking about when you talk success, what is that category? 60 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: So are you talking about he made the most money? 61 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: Were you talking about awards? 62 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: Talking about Billboard's trying to be controversial here because even 63 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: this right, okay, So Justin Bieber comes in at number eight. 64 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: How does Justin Bieber not beat Drake? 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: Great question? 66 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: Hailey Bieber's fired up and said Billboard is an. 67 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: Effing joke as per usual on a post that she 68 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: put up recently. 69 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: See there's like Nicki Mins comes in at number thirteen. 70 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 4: Guys, who else have we got there? 71 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 3: Okay? All right? Do you want? All right? The top ten? 72 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Rihanna Drake, Lady Yaga. 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: Britney, She's comes in at number six. 74 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: Brittany didn't even write have we got some of her 75 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: isolated vocals? 76 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: There? 77 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 5: No, No, that's not what it's about. It's most influential 78 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 5: pop star of the twenty first century, Britney. 79 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: You have to give her, as. 80 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 5: Far as pop stars go, amazing, great it's the greatest 81 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 5: pop star of the twenty. 82 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: Great well as what's your definition of pop star? I 83 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: think Brittany. 84 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: Should even write her own song. 85 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter. A lot of pop stars don't. 86 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: What a song fits. Tell me if I'm wrong. You've 87 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: got one direction on there, Pie. 88 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: Yes, now you twenty two? They are. 89 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: You can't put one direction in a category next to 90 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: solo artists. If you want to do a group and 91 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: you want to do a band, by all means, but 92 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: create that separate category. Don't put them against individuals. 93 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: Have you got sync in there. 94 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: That they were before that they were nineties? 95 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: Mate? Of course? Sorry, sorry, it's good. 96 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 5: I was going to ask about new kids on the 97 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 5: block currently, I didn't. 98 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: Number seven is Cano West, justin bieber Ariana Grande nine. 99 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: Adele comes in at ten. 100 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: What is she popstar? 101 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: She writes and has one of the most amazing voices 102 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: of all time. Usher eleven, Eminem twelve, I mean eminem 103 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: should be higher. 104 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Than eminem, should be higher than really ye, Nicki. 105 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: Minaj thirteen, Justin Timberlake fourteen, Miley Cyrus fifteen, Jay Z 106 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: at sixteen give me a Break. He goes back to 107 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: the nineties, Shakira seventeen. 108 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: She had but where this is coming out of the 109 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 4: US though, isn't it? 110 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: And if you're in Spain like Shakira is massive, You've got. 111 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 3: A week The weekend at eighteen. 112 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: Bts, the K pop group at nineteen at Bruno is 113 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: she there? 114 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: No? 115 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: Bruno Mars at twenty how's this? Bruno Mars at twenty 116 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: Little Wine at twenty one? 117 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 3: Give me a brill? What twenty two is? One direction? 118 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 2: Twenty thirty is bad bunny that we don't really know 119 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: too much about here. 120 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: Twenty fourth on the list is ed Cheron? Is Shecheron? 121 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: Twenty fourth? 122 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 5: Cheer least Cheran is not above Ariana Grande I will 123 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 5: I love. 124 00:05:54,480 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: The way you say grande grande, grande grande. I would 125 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: say everything else should be top ten without a doubt. 126 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: Alisa Alisa from Bao Main. Who do you think she'd 127 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: have been? Number one? A Lisa? 128 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 4: Oh my god? 129 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: Is it not Taylor Swift? 130 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 4: Here we go? 131 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: So she's right up there? 132 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: Though? Do you give credit to beyoncey though? 133 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: Oh? 134 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 4: Look absolutely, But come on, Weisses are just a play 135 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 4: everywhere across the whole entire world. 136 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: Can we can we go to Beck in Liverpool, Beck, 137 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: what are your thoughts? 138 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,559 Speaker 3: It has to be do a lipa. 139 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: She's a powerhouse. 140 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's I don't know the greatest though. I 141 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 5: mean she's she's amazing, but she if she's not on 142 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 5: the list and is on there, that's ridiculous. 143 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: Grande sale, guys, this is where billboards suckers in. They 144 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: want this conversation, they want us talking about them. They 145 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: want the controversy, and that's. 146 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: What we're doing. I've just realized what we've done. 147 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: We've dedicated a whole break to it, and now we 148 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: look like the loser. 149 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: What does Anthony and Campbelltown think? 150 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: I think number one? 151 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Palms of sweaty mane week, Anthony. 152 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: Do you know what I really should? 153 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: He wrote all his own music and that was this 154 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: song here, Lose Yourself, Tommy. Can you just say, don't 155 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: they do the most tested songs on radio recently? 156 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: This comes. I think this was number one. Lose Yourself 157 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: was number one. Without Me was number two. 158 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: Tell me to Celebrate and we play crazy in Love today. 159 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: Oh what a great idea? Made great idea? You know 160 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: what I mean? Yeah? It is? I mean that is 161 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: that has to be one of the greatest pop songs. 162 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: How is Shannon Nol not on the list? 163 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 164 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: You guys there, I saw him, the old Malely Dahale 165 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: Today Shannon Nole doesn't look like this anymore. 166 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: He made the different jack out. 167 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: And they went for Shannon saw that article. 168 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 5: Can we all just decide never to click on articles 169 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 5: like that anymore? 170 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: It is so basic. 171 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 5: If we all made if we all united and decided 172 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 5: we weren't going to do it, they die. 173 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: It's a news website. 174 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 5: Those articles would die. I'm not talking about the old 175 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 5: Daily Fail. 176 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still trying to find the cat amongst 177 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: the pigeons in one of those photos. 178 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: It's in Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast 179 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: walk great shows like this. 180 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: Download the Nova Player, find the app store or Google 181 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: playing the Nova Player