WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 22 July 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:04.439 On scor Lis Oustodio. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.200 This it's the Reader Paney Show. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:11.720 Good evening and welcome to the Reader Paney Show. Coming 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:12.360 up tonight. 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:16.680 Democracy under thread with President Joe Biden earlier today announcing 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.639 he will not seek renomination, but no address to the nation, 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:25.680 no prerecorded statement, nothing other than a written statement released 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:29.080 on social media on x A platform. We can be 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:33.960 fairly certain Biden does not personally use. You can have 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.159 a look at his account and see the output there. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.280 You understand why I say that. Does President Biden even 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.840 know he's not running for renomination? Who exactly is running 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.160 the country right now? It was just over a week 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.320 ago when President Biden. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.880 Said this, what's Joe Biden going to do? Is he 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:53.920 going to stand in the race? 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:55.360 Is he going to drop out? 0:00:55.840 --> 0:01:00.760 Where's myself? I am running and we're gonna win. I'm 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:01.600 my protander. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.959 How can Biden remain in the oval office? 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.600 How can a man judged by his own to be 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:13.120 too cognitively impaired to run for president again remain president? 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:14.920 Who's running the country? 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:19.240 Only yesterday he was saying he would run again and 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:19.880 he would win. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:21.400 It's the most. 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.360 Important election of our lifetimes, and I will win it, 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.640 He tweeted, We'll be covering this incredible news from every 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:32.040 angle with a stellar lineup of guests, including Senator Alex 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:36.320 Antik Provisa, Ian Plymer, and the always droll Texan Alex 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:37.880 Stein later in the hour. 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:39.680 And of course left. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.200 Is losing it, and yes, this woman is going to 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.160 be featuring quite prominently. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.360 You think you just fell out of a coconut tree. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:57.520 You exists in the context we are watched the television 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:02.080 coverage of just yesterday. That's on top of everything else 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.040 that we know and don't know yet based on what 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.160 we've just been able to see in because we've seen 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.000 it or not doesn't mean it hasn't happened. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:14.519 Yes, that's Kamala Harris, the inept, radically left, and wildly 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.360 unpopular vice president who has now been presented as the 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.040 Democrat's great hope, the woman who has not won a 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:26.840 single presidential primary, a Californian from San Francisco with a 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.880 voting record in the Senate that is radically left. She's 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:35.000 disliked by her own let alone the average American and 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:39.560 polsters including Matt Towry, are already laying bare. Han unpopular 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.520 Kamala is in the crucial swing states. The polling show 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:48.320 she's even less popular than Biden among independents in those 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:52.760 swing states. Indeed, across America, Kamala has proven to be 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.799 less popular than the least popular president. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:57.280 Of our time. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.720 She has consistently lied to the American people about Biden's 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:07.079 cognitive decline, and millions of Americans gave their primary vote 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:11.880 to Biden. Their votes mean nothing. Tonight, the Democrats have 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:16.359 shown again and again, though they bleet endlessly about threats 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:20.680 to democracy, they care little about democracy. They have weaponized 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.520 the justice system to try to imprison their chief political rival. 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:26.080 And now they're going. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.920 To ignore the votes of fourteen million Americans who voted 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.800 for Biden in the Democratic primary, and they will install 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.760 Kamala as the candidate. And it hasn't taken long for 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.520 the Trump team to release an ad attacking Kamala. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.240 Harris Kamala was in on it. She covered up Joe's 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:46.600 obvious mental decline. 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.600 Our president is in good shape, in good health, tireless, vibrant, 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.200 and I have no doubt about the strength of the 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:54.160 work that we have done. 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.040 But Carmalin knew Joe couldn't do the job, so she 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.880 did it. Look what she got done. A border in vs. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:05.160 Runaway in Fleetion, the American dream dead. They created this mess. 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:09.200 They know Kamala owns this failed record. 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:14.040 Now let's bring in Liberal Senator Alex Antick. Alex, what 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:15.840 do you make of today's events? 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.480 Is this a quite coup? 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:21.360 Well? 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.839 Look, who knows what goes on with American politics? Reader 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.039 suffice to say that I just am staggered that people 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.400 are staggered. This seemed to be telegraphed for I would 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.839 have thought years out. I mean, I honestly didn't think 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.240 that Joe Biden would make it past the first year. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:36.719 Franklin. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:40.080 We saw that because his performances in the twenty nineteen 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.200 twenty twenty era were actually not that much different to 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.160 what we saw in that recent debate. It's just that 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.960 all of a sudden, the media turned on him, and 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.560 of course from there we just saw a pylon. And 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.159 I mean, I just find it staggering. I saw Vivic 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.760 Ramaswami making the point of the presidential elections no sorry, 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:02.120 Republican presidential debate. The Democrats should just give up this 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.200 charade that Joe was going to be the nominee. 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:05.040 I don't know. 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.719 I mean It just strikes me as being the most 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.159 obvious train wreck in the distance that I have ever seen. 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.719 And yet here we are and people are feigning surprise. 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:18.240 So be it, I say, but they. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.600 Were happy for him to run again as long as 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:24.000 that had gas lit the American people into believing he 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:25.159 was fit for office. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.919 It's only when the poles really turned. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.480 I don't think they even care about the debate performance 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.520 as much as they just see no recovery in the 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.640 polls for him, So they're just going to throw away 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.920 the entire process. And when you look at the poles 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.320 that have come out just since this news broke, it 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:44.919 doesn't look pretty for Kamala. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.719 This National ge Pole's got Trump on. 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:54.240 Forty four percent, Harris thirty six, and Kennedy up to 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:59.840 six percent. There Joe Biden is backing his vice president 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.480 and saw a number of other powerful players, but not 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.560 Barack Obama, not yet, and he seems to have so 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.479 much power within the Democrats. Alex, why do you think 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.400 that is? Why do you think he is hesitant to 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:16.560 back Kamala. 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.520 Well, it's a great question, and I know that there 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.960 is actually the convention in a couple of weeks, so 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:24.560 it's all yet to be played out, and the way 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.720 it roles is quite intriguing. They can vote virtually over 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.320 the next little period. They'd hope to install the previous 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.039 president Biden by I think the seventh of August, so 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.680 and that didn't happen obviously, so there's obviously some back 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.160 room negotiation going on. People bring their delegates with them. 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.839 They are all free to vote now however they want, 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:49.359 though Biden's Democrat delegates, so time will tell. But look, 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.960 I mean this has been such a topsy turvy period 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.039 over the last few months. Yet I don't think we 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.440 could safely say that she is home and host yet. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.119 I mean, maybe there's an outside and then might come through. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.760 If you ask Roger Stone, he's been saying Michelle Obama 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.280 for eighteen months. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:06.560 I don't know. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.000 I mean, we've had a wee October surprises in the 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.120 last two months before we even get to October. 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.880 I mean, who knows. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.240 It's a very good point, and there's some very smart 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.800 money saying just that that they're going to go with her. Now, 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.960 give her a couple of weeks to try to prove herself, 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.680 and if she fails, then they've got time to back 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:33.600 another candidate in perhaps a Michelle Obama or a Gavin Newsom. 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:37.720 I mean, the entire process, though, seems to be shambolic. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:38.239 Alex. 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.560 You've got a process to find a candidate, and the 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.960 Democrats seem to have little respect for that. Where we've 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:50.320 seen that in previous campaigns and again this time pressuring 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:55.480 the president to step down. That keep talking about threats 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.320 to democracy and how Donald Trump is the great threat 0:07:58.360 --> 0:07:59.040 to democracy. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.200 That don't seem to have a great deal of respect 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.080 for the democratic process themselves. 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.280 Yeah, well, as always, politics in the US is a 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.120 bit like the portrait of Dorian Gray, and he's sort 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.559 of accusing your opponent of doing the things you're doing yourself. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:12.320 I mean, it's quite right. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.520 As Trump said on the weekend, what did he ever 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.720 do for democracy? He took a bullet for democracy, that's 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.280 what he did. And so yeah, look, I agree, we've 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.760 heard all the usual overtures. We can't let Trump be 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:24.760 back in the White House. He'll be a dictator, even 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.360 though he wasn't in the last round. He'll be, you know, 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.480 whatever the accusation is, he'll be. And of course the 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.040 American people now have the benefit of seeing what came 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:37.520 under the Trump presidency, which was an incredible economy, a 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.480 secure border, almost Middle East peace by the way. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:42.760 So I think you'll find that the. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.559 Mood has changed a lot out there in the US 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.880 and we're starting to see people coming out of their shells, 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.280 which is ensuring. 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:54.720 Well, you've never been shy about expressing your support. You've 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.200 met with the president. There's a picture of you and 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:01.360 him together that you've shared. What can you tell us 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.720 about your own personal interaction with him and what a 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:08.679 second Trump term will mean for Australia and for that 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:14.000 US alliance. Can you see, for example, Kevin Rudd remaining 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:18.320 in that crucial position given some of the horrendous things 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.480 he has said about President Trump in the past. 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.360 Well, I noticed that everybody seems to be backpedaling now 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.040 at one hundred miles an hour as the Trump presidency 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.319 gets closer to a reality. The forty seventh president of 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.720 the United States, from my own personal point of view, 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.920 found him to be incredibly engaging. I mean, I think 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.720 this is the terrible thing that left don't want to 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:39.839 admit when it comes to Donald Trump. He's a consummate professional, 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:44.320 He is personable, he is funny, and he listens to people, 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.560 And I mean, I know that runs against the narrative 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.920 kind of say by the outset that and this station 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.240 and yourself are precluded from this prijority of that I'm 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.120 going to say, but I actually don't care what anyone 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.320 in the media anywhere says about anything, let alone Donald J. Trump, 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:01.120 And I certainly don't care what celebrities say. It is 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.520 just intriguing to see these people in real life. They 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.960 are human beings. As to the Australian scenario, look, I 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.160 mean I think people will scramble now to talk about 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.040 him in favorable terms, you know. 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:18.880 As they should, Oh absolutely, And I think he was 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.679 in many ways positive for Australia, particularly when you look 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.880 at how he handled China that's rarely spoken about, and 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:33.280 of course other successes internationally, including those peace deals. But 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.960 back on Kamala, it wasn't long ago when even the 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:41.720 most left of leftist publications were admitting that the Democrats 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:42.920 have a Kamala problem. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:44.720 The Atlantic among them. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.959 They've described her career as you know, this rising star 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.560 who's ended up being a damp squib, and how she's 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:58.160 just hasn't got a single vote cast for her for 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:04.040 these primaries. But now she's been presented as this visionary, 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:09.720 this amazing woman of color who's going to change the world. 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:15.440 The change in narrative is just so dramatic and almost comical. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.320 How do you think she will go with the media, 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.640 because she is going to have a honeymoon period if 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.840 she does end up being the candidate, and that honeymoon 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.040 may last all the way to the November poll. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:29.520 Yeah, it could well. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.480 I mean you can almost hear the collective groan from 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.720 Hollywood and the media in the US saying, here we go, 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.200 We're going to have to fall into line now. 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:36.720 But that's just me. 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.800 Maybe I'm wrong, but it does seem to me to 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:43.240 be an incredible feat to try to get this online. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.760 I mean, we've heard the vice president talk in riddles. 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.640 She talks all over the shop. She talks in a 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.319 form of words salad, and I think Donald Trump actually 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.160 described it to Tucker Tack Carlson as being almost like 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.480 talking in rhyme. You know, it's sort of this kind 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.720 of you know, everything that was is and everything that 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.640 might be is maybe, And you know, I mean, who 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:02.240 knows that. 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:03.520 That's, by the way, is. 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.240 Not an uncommon feature of political speak, and that's why 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.360 I think President Trump relates so well to people because 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.040 he just gets in front of the camera and says 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.640 what he thinks. And it's not always what people want 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.280 to hear, but at least it's coming from a place 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:20.160 of unscripted nature usually. So look, I don't know. I 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.440 think it's going to be an interesting exercise. But you 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.240 can guarantee she'll be front and center on programs like 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:29.280 The View, and she'll be all over you know, the 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.240 Golden Globes, and she'll be dancing with Oprah and you know, 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:33.520 I mean, it's just ready to go. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.360 You mentioned words salads. She's known for those and also 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:45.840 for her laugh just laughing at sometimes inappropriate times. Let's 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.800 have a look at some of her performances during the debates. 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.600 Some things you can, many things you can. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.000 Let's let the senator answer. 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.760 Well, I mean I would just say, hey, Joe, it's 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:59.360 said a saying that we can't. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:06.600 Let's see, yes we can, must be procrusional, yes we. 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:07.880 Can, oh dear. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.440 And six months into her role as vice president, she 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.400 still had not gone down to the southern border, despite 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.520 the fact that she was the borders are charged with 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.480 fixing that problem, and listen to this interview with MBC 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.079 that's become viral again. 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:26.880 We are going to the border. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.400 We've been to the border, so this whole, this whole 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:31.439 thing about the border. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.080 We've been to the border. We've been to the border. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.040 You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:37.880 to Europe. 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.080 She hasn't been to Europe either, Alex She has now 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:46.240 gone to the border once June twenty twenty one, down 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:50.080 in El Paso, Texas. And I think that failure as 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:53.199 the borders are, this is one of the very top 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.760 issues in the US, along with the cost of living crisis, inflation, 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.480 is the record numbers who are flooding in a legally 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.720 through that southern border, and she owns a lot of that. 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.480 How do you think she'll be judged if she is 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:13.480 the candidate, if they do stick with her, how will 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:18.920 she dodge responsibility for the illegal immigration crisis? 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:21.600 Well, I mean it's a massive issue. 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.840 I mean we're hearing reports that there are as many 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.720 as ten, fifteen, eighteen million people that have come across 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.600 the border. And even Trump himself, I think has taken 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.840 aim at some of the usual conservative allies around the 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.360 South American take us by saying, look, they're just letting 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.840 people into the country, dumping their prisons, dumping all in 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.800 our good nix and so on. So it's a massive failure. 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.280 I think this is probably arguably the biggest failing of 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.320 the last fifty years in the United States to have 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:52.320 this mass migration now now coming through. So she shouldn't 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.560 be judged well. None of the Biden administration should be 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.440 judged well. But they'll be judged by the usual suspects, 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:02.200 the managerial class, Hollywood celebrities, singers, and buy newspaper outlets 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.600 that want to put their own shine on what it 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.520 actually happened and what actually didn't happen. And that's the 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.000 problem here. I think the problem is a lot of 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.400 this will get swept under the rug. That's why it's 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.360 so important that we have platforms where we can talk 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.400 about this stuff. You won't see it on many of 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.840 these social media outlets, I can assure you, but you 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:19.000 may well see it on Twitter. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:20.040 I suspect. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:22.360 Yes. 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.360 Now to the UK, I talked about Kevin Rudd and 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.680 some of the things he has said about President Trump 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:33.800 and how you can go on with with that possible 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.440 Trump administration in his current role, the UK has got 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:41.560 even more serious troubles because the new Labor government. You 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:45.760 got the Foreign Secretary there, David Lammy, who's called Trump 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:50.760 a neo Nazi sociopath. I mean, how do you move 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.320 on from that? We know Trump can hold a grudge. 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:58.080 What can this mean for the US UK alliance? 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.560 Yeah, I mean I think people once again, we've got 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.760 to see a lot of backpedaling over the next little period. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.360 I suspect, but I mean these words almost have no 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.720 meaning anymore. The left just use them in the most 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.360 ambiguous ridiculous. I mean the number of times people have 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.280 been called white supremacists. So someone called JD. Vans a 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.280 white supremacist in the last forty eight hours, and of 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.720 course his wife is from India, I think, or the 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.840 family are from India. So I mean, none of it, 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:26.000 it's just nonsense. 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:27.120 What does it do though? 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.800 I think it does leave a lot of damage, And 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.080 of course we know that President Trump does have a 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.160 long memory, so I don't think it's a healthy thing. 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.600 And I hope that people would in the various countries 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.720 of our alliance would see that and be a little 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.560 bit more realistic about their language. I mean, they can 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:47.680 say what they like, but we've got bigger fish to 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.200 fry here with the Alliance. 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:57.000 And we've got local politicians, including Zoey Daniel and the 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:01.440 Greens leader Adam Bant, all scared mongering about a second 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.399 Trump term, saying that it's going to be terrible for 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.600 the world for climate change, the world's going to burn. 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.760 What's your response to that and what will. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:16.920 It mean for our energy policy if there is a 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.680 Trump term where they walk away from Paris again, where 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:25.920 they become energy independent and they really focus on drilling 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:30.240 as much as they can to bring home that advantage. 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.480 Yeah, well, let's hope it brings some common sense back 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.840 to global energy policy full stop. I mean, you know 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.240 his line is drill, baby, drill. Couldn't agree more. I mean, 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.119 you know, we need to be in a position now 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.119 where we get the cheapest power in the world, and 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:44.679 we've got it. We've got it here, We've got everything 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.840 we need. We just need to get some sense back 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.639 into that debate, and so I welcome it. I mean, 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.280 at the moment I knew Donald J. Trump was the 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.199 real deal was when he pulled out of Paris. I 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.200 thought that was one of the greatest things the politicians 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:56.920 ever done. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:58.640 And let's hope it happens again. 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.080 Senator Alexander, thank you so much for your time. Really 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.840 do appreciate your insights, and let's talk more about the 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.600 energy and climate change policy. I'm joined now by Steam 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:18.439 geologist professor Ian Plymer. I mentioned the Greens leader Adam 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:22.240 Bandt here's urging Americans to reject Donald Trump. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:23.040 He tweeted this. 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.920 He said, a second Donald Trump term would be dangerous 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.760 for the climate, for already marginalized communities, and for the 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:31.800 growing threat of. 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:33.240 Far right extremism. 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.960 I hope Americans use their voting power in the upcoming 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.280 election to stop this from happening. Big respect to Joe 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.160 Biden for making what would have been a very difficult 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:48.120 decision overnight. The new Democrat presidential candidate must do all 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.439 they can to keep Trump out of office. 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:52.600 But it's interesting. 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:56.000 Ian, because he's American counterpart, you could say, presidential nominee 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.560 for the American Green Party, doctor Jill Steins. She seems 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:02.640 to think the threat comes from the other side. She tweeted, 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.680 Joe Biden has been removed from power by the same 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:10.000 anti democratic forces that wrig the field for him in 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.399 twenty twenty and skip the primary to anoint him in 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:14.280 twenty twenty four. 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:15.760 Don't be fooled. 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.880 The same densey elites that put him in power will 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:22.639 replace him with another tool for Wall Street and the 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:27.200 war machine. Professor Plymer, what do you make of Adam 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:32.440 Vance's comments and what do you think a second Trump 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:36.399 term will mean for the planet and for the threat 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:37.440 of global warming? 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.440 Well, the American voter would say, who the hell is 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.800 Adam Bank? You know, we've got to own WeDo. 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.399 We don't have Australian weirdos. 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:51.840 So to call Trump dangerous, we've already had him from 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.879 one term. You can already see what he's done. And 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.520 was he dangerous? No, He created more jobs, especially for 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:03.439 marginalized people. He closed the border, which actually meant that 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:07.159 poor people didn't have competition from illegals for jobs. 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:09.439 His energy policies. 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.480 Made America great again. So Adam Bend is showing that 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:17.520 he's suffering from a severe dose of Trump de arrangement syndrome. 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:19.960 No one listens to him in the US. No one 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.439 should listen to her in this country. The US has 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.399 got enough for their own widows. 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:30.400 And for him to be tweeting about far right extremism 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:34.640 when We're seeing what's happened since October seven right here 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:38.840 in Australia, in our country, in our cities across Australia, 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:43.120 were far left activists intimidating members of the Jewish community, 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:46.159 and a lot of people who seem to be of 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:50.720 the same political persuasion as the Greens participating in behavior 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:55.240 that is frankly UnAustralian and should be condemned. Let's talk 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.879 about the tills. Zoe daniels I mentioned her earlier. She 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:03.600 was on Inside As yesterday also talking about the perils 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:05.520 of a second Trump term. 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.480 And I think anyone who thinks Trump has changed as 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.359 a result of the assassination attempt is living in a 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:16.959 parallel universe. We saw him wind back Barack Obama's initiatives 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:20.240 on renewable energy, we saw him pull out of Paris. 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:26.120