1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm christan 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: amiet It's Friday, July eleven, twenty twenty five. Prime Minister 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Anthony Albanizi will travel to China this weekend for meetings 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: with President Xijinping, Premier Li Chang and National People's Congress 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Chairman Jao Luji. To read the latest from our reporters 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: on the ground in China, visit the Australian dot com 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: dot a U. Universities who fail to combat antisemitism on 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: campus could be stripped of funding, and border force officials 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: will be trained to spot anti semites. Those are some 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: of the sweeping recommendations made by Special Envoy Julian Siegel 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: in her plan to tackle Australia's antisemitism crisis. Today we 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: unpacked the plan, almost a year in the making. If 13 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: you walked from Melbourne's lush Fitzroy Gardens, behind Victoria's old 14 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: Parliament House building and towards the city's ornate Royal Exhibition Building, 15 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: you'd pass by the historic East Melbourne Hebrew Congregation. Consecrated 16 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy seven, it's the oldest synagogue in the 17 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: southern capitol and it's here that around two hundred local 18 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: Jewish families come to worship. But last Saturday, this sacred 19 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: place became the target of a vile antisemitic attack. A 20 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: Melbourne synagogue has been hit by an arsen attack as 21 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: adults and children were having a Shabbat meal inside. Those 22 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: congregants had barely escaped the blaze through the synagogue's back entrance, 23 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: when just streets away, an Israeli owned restaurant was stormed 24 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: by anti Israel protesters who through chairs enchanted death to 25 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: the IDF. Last weekend's attacks are the latest in a 26 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: string of anti SMA metic atrocities reported since Harmas militants 27 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: from Gaza invaded southern Israel on October seven, twenty twenty three, 28 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: slaughtering fifteen hundred innocent men, women and children and taking 29 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: another two hundred and fifty hostage. In all, two thousand 30 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: anti Semitic incidents have been reported across Australia in just 31 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: under two years. Now. The government says it has a 32 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: plan to end the scourge of antisemitism in Australia for good. 33 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: The plan is grounded in Australian values, it's proactive, and 34 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: it's adapted to our federal legal framework. And it's not 35 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: a symbolic document. It's an action plan and it addresses 36 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: antisemitism in many places in our laws, classrooms, universities, media workplaces, 37 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: online spaces and public institutions. 38 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: This is the Special Envoy to combat antisemitism, Jillian Siegel. 39 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: For the last nine monthnths or so, she's been working 40 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: on a wide ranging strategy, which she launched on Thursday 41 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: alongside Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke and Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi. 42 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: Any Semitism is an evil scourge and there is no 43 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: place in Australia for any Semitism. The kind of hatred 44 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: and violence that we've seen on our streets recently is 45 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: despicable and it won't be tolerated and I want those 46 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: responsible to face the full force of the law. 47 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: The plan includes a handful of measures broadly targeted at education, immigration, 48 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: and cultural activities. 49 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: We have to embed age appropriate education into our school curricula. 50 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: We need to support professional development of teachers and public servants. 51 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: We need to promote cultural understanding, back trusted voices online 52 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: and encourage responsible media reporting. But education is the key. 53 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: Under the plan, Siegel says, a nationally consistent approach to 54 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: teaching about the history and modern forms of antisemitism will 55 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: be rolled out. Universities will be subject to report cards 56 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: that assess their ability to combat antisemitism through systems and policies, 57 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: and institutions that don't act on bigotry displayed by staff, 58 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: students and artists could be stripped of funding. Border Force 59 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: officials will be trained to identify and deport people who 60 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: exhibit antisemitic behaviors. Cultural institutions and events organizers will also 61 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: lose financial backing if they fail to deal with antisemitism effectively, 62 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: and Australia's public institutions and all levels of government will 63 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: adopt the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's definition of antisemitism. Here's 64 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: the Australians. 65 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 4: Richard Ferguson, So the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's definition of 66 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 4: antisemitism as broad. It is strong, but there are many 67 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: critics of Israel and people in the Muslim can unity 68 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 4: who feel that the definition is so broad that it 69 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 4: includes criticism of Israel as being anti Semitic and therefore 70 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 4: limits their own free speech. But the problem has been 71 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: that criticism of Israel has been laden with anti Semitic 72 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 4: tropes about secret control, shadowy figures, the sort of things 73 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: that have been used against Jewish people for centuries. So 74 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: this has always been the problem, which is that criticism 75 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 4: of Israel does not equal anti Semitism, but criticism of 76 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 4: Israel is so often overladen and resorts to antisemitism. And 77 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: this is the problem that people who say their critics 78 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: of Israel not all of them are anti Semites, but 79 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 4: some of them are clearly taking things in an anti 80 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: Semitic direction and are leading others into antisemitic directions. 81 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: One thing the Special Envoy isn't pushing for or in 82 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: this plan is a judicial review of antisemitism on university campuses, 83 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: which is something that's been floated over the last year 84 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: or so. Why doesn't it appear in the action plan 85 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: that was unveiled on Thursday. 86 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 4: Well, one of the reasons is essentially it's very hard 87 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: for the Labor Party to back a judicial review into 88 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: antisemitism when they spent two years telling everybody it doesn't 89 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: need to happen. Now the argument from the government has 90 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: been whereabout action, not more reviews, not more inquiries. And 91 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: there is pretty significant action, very significant action recommended by 92 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: the Special Envoy, so in many ways that's probably what 93 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 4: a judicial inquiry would tell the government to do. Anyway, However, 94 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: Jillian Siegel does say that if things continue as badly 95 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 4: as they have on Australian campuses, there will be a 96 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: need for a judicial inquiry, so it almost keeps it 97 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: in the back pocket of the government if this plan 98 00:06:54,760 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: does not work. Along with combining the federal and state 99 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: police task forces on anti Semitism, currently the government does 100 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: not want to merge them, but this review by Jillian 101 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: Segul says you may have to do that in six 102 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: months to a year's time if everything else we're doing 103 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: doesn't work. 104 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: This plan represents about nine months of work by Jillian Siegel. 105 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: She's consulted widely with experts in community groups to formulate 106 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: what is a quite far reaching strategy. Does it go 107 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: far enough? 108 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: Do you think many people in the Jewish community, Kristen 109 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: do feel like if this plan is implemented, and the 110 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 4: word if is very important there, then it will work. 111 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 4: Many of Jillian Siegul's points are quite similar to a 112 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 4: report by the Executive Council of Australian Jury that was 113 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 4: unveiled at the Sky News Anti Semitism summit. So there 114 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: is a lot of hope and there's a lot of 115 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: goodwill out there in the Jewish community for the federal government, 116 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: which there has not been since the October seven massacres. 117 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: Lots of people feel that Anthony Albanesi has not had 118 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 4: a handle on this issue. Even if his heart's been 119 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 4: in the right place, he hasn't been able to be 120 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: the leader they need. 121 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 5: Today they feel very differently. 122 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: They feel he was strong, he was eloquent, he was 123 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: on their side, but now they will hold him to 124 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 4: account on actually getting this plan implemented. 125 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: Coming up, the government has a plan now what On Thursday, 126 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi pledged to carefully consider the measures 127 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: proposed by Special Envoyd Gillian Siegel in her plan to 128 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: combat anti Semitism, But he wouldn't be drawn on which 129 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: of those measures his government will implement. 130 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 5: Or when. 131 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: Will now carefully consider the report recommendation. So there's a number 132 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: of things in here. 133 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 5: That we are doing. 134 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: As a number of things can be implemented quickly, there 135 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: are a number of things that will require work over 136 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: a period of time. What we'll do is work constructively 137 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: with the Envoy. 138 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: Richard, As you said, Anthony Albanese's government has been under 139 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: fire for its flat footed response to Australia's anti Semitism 140 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: crisis over the past couple of years. Really, what does 141 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: the release of Jillian Siegel's plan tell you about the 142 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: attitudes within labor towards this issue now? 143 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: Well, I think Dennis Shanahan, are a National editor, puts 144 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: it the best and has peace for the Australian today 145 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: that there has been one obvious shift since the February 146 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 4: anti semitism summer a note, which is that liber won 147 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: the election and won it handlely, and it won the 148 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: election not just against the Liberals, who obviously ran very 149 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 4: hard on the anti Semitism crisis, but they defeated the Greens, 150 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: and they defeated the pro Palestine independence in Western Sydney 151 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: and other seats like that where they were running anti 152 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 4: Israel and at many times anti Semitic campaigns. Now, of 153 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 4: course he will say, I've always been committed to this. 154 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: I've just been working on this plan. Everything I do 155 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 4: is thorough and considered. I don't rush anything. But this 156 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 4: plan has come out several days after you get more 157 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 4: attacks against Jewish people in Melbourne, and it has come 158 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: out on the other side of an election where the 159 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: threat of the pro Palestine Greens has been defeated. 160 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: Just lastly, rigid, what's been the response of Jewish leaders 161 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: to the plan released on Thursday. 162 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 5: Look incredibly welcoming. 163 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 4: A lot of people are really welcoming in this plan, 164 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 4: saying it's really strong, it's speaking to the points that 165 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 4: we've been concerned about for a long long time. But 166 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: Alex Ripchin, who was the architect of the fifteen Plan 167 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 4: that came out of the Anti Semitism summit in February, 168 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 4: he has also written for the Australians saying at times 169 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: it seemed the government treated the anti Semitives and crisis 170 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 4: as a nuisance rather than a moral imperative. The only 171 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 4: real question was whether their approach was driven by ideology 172 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: or hard political realities. 173 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 5: Are both. 174 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: What he says now is that you know, the Prime 175 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: Minister and Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke have shown that 176 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 4: they get it. They understand the extreme anti Israel activists 177 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 4: or not freedom fighters or piece next they are a 178 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: threat to us all. But what Alex Richtin also says 179 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: is this plan will be judged by the success of 180 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 4: its implementation. It's not just federal governments you need to act. 181 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 4: It's the state governments. It's the unis, it's the schools, 182 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: it's the social media platforms. It's all of us to 183 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: combat anti semitism. But Alex Richin says, this does not 184 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: get the federal government off the hook or abrogate its 185 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: central role in guiding our country back to somewhere better 186 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 4: than we are now. It has to lead the fight 187 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: back and that was the one thing in that pressor. 188 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: Both the Prime Minister and the Home Affairs ministers struggled 189 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: to say what exact actions will be implemented by the 190 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 4: end of the year. Now, of course, many of the 191 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: things that are in the report the government is already doing, 192 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 4: for example, when it stopped Kenny West coming into the 193 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: country because of the once iconic now disgraced rappers, you know, 194 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 4: absolutely horrific down you know, fall into rank anti semitism 195 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: and Hitler worship, and they pointed to that. But they 196 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: did struggle a little bit to say what exact actions 197 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 4: from this report will be. We'll see six months a 198 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 4: year's time, and that's that's where. 199 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 5: They're going to have to do more work with the 200 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 5: community on that. 201 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 4: But apart from that look widely the Jewish leaders believe 202 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: that he is. 203 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 5: He has really stepped up to the mark. 204 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: That was The Australian's Richard Ferguson. 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