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Speaker 2: In the words of von Jovi, Well, we're halfway there,

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Speaker 2: Ben waderweth with you as is the man primed for

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Speaker 2: Origin week, Max Lawton, Hello, MAXI.

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Speaker 3: The best part about State of Origin, Ben is that

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Speaker 3: I don't have to work on that night. It's my

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Speaker 2: It's a very all the States centric cond and I

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Speaker 2: also joining us in tribunal week is David, you're not

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Speaker 2: working tonight?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, of course. Clearly it depends when we're recording this,

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Speaker 4: because it's almost a bit up in the air as

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Speaker 4: a Tuesday afternoon.

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Speaker 5: No, you've ruined it.

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Speaker 4: You've ruined the other week we recorded on a Monday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we kept it secret.

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Speaker 4: Can I tell you something right, I'm being they're taking

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Speaker 2: Alex Pierce is going to be challenging his three match band.

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Speaker 4: Taking the good Yeah, what is that what you're referring

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Speaker 4: to deliberately? So what happened is, Yes, so someone at

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Speaker 4: the gym today said, oh, the headlines should be pierced

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not going to use that.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to brand at Bodyfield Fairfield. So there is

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Speaker 4: a very interesting thing. So I spoke to that's the nickname.

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Speaker 4: I spoke to someone at the doctors, the media adviser there. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I'm strong, she used to. Yes, she's very good at

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Speaker 4: what she does. I think do you mind if I

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Speaker 4: just speak to Joe Brady, head of Footage, just to

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Speaker 4: and just just soa I'm across the case, because it'll

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Speaker 4: be six that he will come on here. It's going

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Speaker 4: to be a bit the case one have properly started

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Speaker 4: always late. I can't really give much of I'm not

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Speaker 4: across the case. And she said Joe is in meetings

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Speaker 4: until the hearing begins. So was are you to believe

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Speaker 4: that Joe is in meetings for four and a half

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Speaker 2: Could be?

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Speaker 5: I mean, heads of footy are pretty busy.

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Speaker 4: I was told. I was told by Tanya that it's

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Speaker 4: I struggled. I struggle to believe it.

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Speaker 3: You're suggesting that other people could probably get him on

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Speaker 4: U yes hours, I would suggest if someone were to

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Speaker 5: So this is really put you in your place.

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Speaker 4: Not really, I just just tell me you don't want

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Speaker 4: of meeting straight, are they? I know we don't. We

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Speaker 5: Differently in Wa, everyone knows that.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Joe, if you were able to

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Speaker 4: In thirty seconds?

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Speaker 4: It's what they've always tried to argue. I think Pierce

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Speaker 3: Two very interesting things about this One is that Alex

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Speaker 3: Piers is one of those players who can be well

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Speaker 3: But it just felt wrong that we are accepting that

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Speaker 3: Piers effectively, effectively did nothing wrong. It just happened that

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Speaker 3: suddenly he's in a place where he can get three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Now, just so long than you have said post game

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Speaker 4: So I think the AFL probably, So it just comes

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Speaker 4: mean probably the AFL would say try and contest the ball,

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Speaker 3: This is the line for me that we've crossed where

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Speaker 3: we're putting too much onus on the player who's been blamed.

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Speaker 5: We're expecting him to do way too much.

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Speaker 2: Well, he'll be able to get full coverage. If you're

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Speaker 2: listening to this Pride of the hearing on Foxfooty Dot

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Speaker 5: On if we will no no.

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Speaker 4: Because that's finishial eight Australine and standard time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: When you want to order dinner.

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Speaker 4: Like drive like seven seven just after seven.

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Speaker 5: Well you don't want you when your hips to be cold.

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Speaker 4: Seven fifty seven will seven okay, thank you?

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Speaker 2: Mid season grade time Okay, every class has played at

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Speaker 5: They's been very busy.

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Speaker 4: Unfair advantage Yeah wow, not really.

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Speaker 2: The Round twenty four fixture is still still have come

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Speaker 2: I've got instead of going through every club individually, I've

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Speaker 5: You've made this even more complex.

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Speaker 2: So I've got two fails. I've got two fails so

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Speaker 3: I know Port have more injuries too, but Sydney have

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Speaker 3: Very unlikely with the Swans, but recoverable. Whereas Port from

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Speaker 5: North's, Yeah, is very concerned.

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Speaker 3: Like four thumpings of roughly fifty points or more. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Do you think that should be a bit higher a

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Speaker 2: D for North.

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Speaker 3: What realistically were North expected to be through half a season.

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Speaker 3: five win North season is just below average, right, So

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Speaker 3: maybe I'm arguing over a D plus or a C minus,

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Speaker 3: but I think it's about where they should be. They've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been in and out. They have been. Their

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Speaker 2: inconsistency week to week has been an issue, and at

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Speaker 2: they've They've had opportunities to grow this year and they

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Speaker 3: If our problem with North is that they're not good

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Speaker 5: You understand that they're not practicing that now.

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Speaker 3: They're still practicing Clico's game style because you get that

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Speaker 3: first season that didn't really work. This is this second

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Speaker 3: full season in charge effectively. I think that's slightly unfair

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Speaker 3: and North would be my case, although I understand that

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Speaker 3: people wanted them to be further ahead than they actually

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Speaker 2: Carlton d plus there, David. They were a big talking

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Speaker 2: as well. Again, they've got a very healthy percentage, so

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Speaker 2: it can turn for them. And the problem when you

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Speaker 2: consider how close they've been in games. They've probably only

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Speaker 2: been had one really ordinary game, which is against Adelaide

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Speaker 2: But still I think most people expected them to be

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Speaker 4: Of this stage. I think that's fair. They've been very

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Speaker 4: disappointing this year. They've been flaky. Yes, they've had some

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Speaker 4: injuries here and there, but they've just been it's just

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Speaker 5: You know, they're just in the acceptance phase.

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Speaker 4: They're in the acceptance phase almost and we're only halfway

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Speaker 3: They should win their next four. They have Essendon, the

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Speaker 3: So either way, they are not having the season that

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, it did make a very late run a couple

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Speaker 2: I've got some Kilda at as C minus.

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Speaker 4: So just in the middle, Just in the middle is

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Speaker 4: that's where they always seem to be. Just in the middle.

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Speaker 3: Ross Lyon being the master media manipulator. Right, he comes

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Speaker 5: In a row. Could have won all those games.

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Speaker 3: A four and seven are falling out, are falling into

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're four and seven, fourteenth percentage of noine.

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Speaker 3: That's the bracket everyone had them in, right, but now

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Speaker 5: Yeah? So c Minuss thinks about right.

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Speaker 2: So they're just below Freemantle and the Giants. So I've

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Speaker 2: But I think a lot of pundits preseason had them

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you thought GWS was a contender, like a

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Speaker 3: a very good chance they're eight and five. That's where

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Speaker 4: I think they'll be all right. I still think then

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Speaker 4: that's back and then they'll just they'll start to click.

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Speaker 3: They are clearly not the tippy top top four contender

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Speaker 3: for them to be that though, yes, and they have

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Speaker 2: And from a docker's perspective, it's been a roller coaster

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Speaker 2: start to there. They're good, has been outstanding. That win

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Speaker 3: This was genuinely beating Port was there their first time.

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Speaker 3: They've played exactly the expectation since gather around. Otherwise it's

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Speaker 5: It's bizarre.

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Speaker 3: So if they're finally finding some consistency, it's coming out

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Speaker 3: a pretty good time and they still can make it

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Speaker 2: I've got one anyway, I've got Richmond at C plus

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Speaker 2: C plus I think I reckon they've probably done better

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Speaker 4: Some people we didn't think they win a game. Some

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Speaker 2: I've got a three at three and eight of the moves.

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Speaker 3: Even if you didn't think they'd go winless because everyone

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Speaker 3: Richmond this year. Yeah, yeah, they're in the B somewhere.

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Speaker 3: You've got to be happy with three wins. They are

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Speaker 3: showing signs of progress. They're also showing signs of being

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Speaker 4: Of the year. I'm interested in saying that because with

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Speaker 4: But three wins in half a season, it's pretty good

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Speaker 2: So I would you swap Richmond and Essendon here?

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Speaker 4: I had Essendon as a B minus being minus.

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Speaker 2: They're six and four with a percentage of eighty five,

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Speaker 5: At the So do you.

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Speaker 3: Do you think of these grades as what the teams

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Speaker 4: Loss records and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Is right what they.

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Speaker 3: Are in reality okay, So then I think B minus

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Speaker 3: That happens because they get pumped every now and then.

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Speaker 3: But that's just a reality of where they're at. They

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Speaker 3: Even if their record says they are.

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Speaker 2: The grades I think are where the reality of where

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Speaker 3: Ago, probably ahead of that mark just because of being

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Speaker 3: as well, Like does anyone realistically think they can make

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Speaker 2: They don't. They're not as talented and seasoned as other teams.

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Speaker 3: I would pick any of the three teams below the Melbourne,

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Speaker 3: Carlton or Sydney to make it before them. So, but

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Speaker 3: that's just more about where they are. It's not a

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Speaker 3: they are not there yet. So every win banked against

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Speaker 3: these bad teams. They've beaten the bottom four by an

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Speaker 3: but they do this every year.

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Speaker 2: I also had Hawthorne of B minus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the reason seven and four is

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Speaker 3: a pretty good record. But there could be seven and

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Speaker 5: There's something off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was alarm bells in the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Four and oh everyone's thinking, all right, they're flying. They

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Speaker 2: I don't think everyone thought they were flying. And then

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Speaker 2: Sam Mitchell continually stressed as well that they know where

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Speaker 2: they're at. We are not going at a plus grade

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Speaker 3: No, no, but it's still a step down from what

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Speaker 3: a lot of people thought they could be. I had

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Speaker 3: to that in a lot of ways. I think sixth

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Speaker 4: There are only percentage out of the top.

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Speaker 5: Four, like a lot of percentage of its Yeah, but.

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Speaker 4: Like it's not they're not doing that bad. Like, yes,

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Speaker 4: there's been poor at periods, but I think all these

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Speaker 4: so much time, Like, I don't think I wouldn't be

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Speaker 4: hitting the panic button, absolutely not on any of these

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Speaker 2: It seems correctable what their issues are at the.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what's what was the great.

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Speaker 3: Again b or bus fourth. I think that's fine. They

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Speaker 3: Because they're seven and four, you're pretty happy with that.

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Speaker 3: I think everyone think they're going to play finals.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's fine.

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Speaker 3: But if they're not absolute top team, maybe that's a

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Speaker 2: I had Melbourne as a B and maybe that's a

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Speaker 3: The arrow is certainly pointing up, isn't it? Five of

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Speaker 2: It feels like it's it's been two quarters of a season,

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Speaker 2: which which do you favor the most? And it's harder

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Speaker 3: With there, you have to value that more because you

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Speaker 3: for them to play. That just it took a while

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Speaker 3: now they're fine. I still don't think they're playing finals

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Speaker 3: because their draws pretty rough. I think people are getting

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Speaker 3: it's like six games left against the top eight, and

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Speaker 2: And then six teams remaining are all on the A bracket,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brisbane, yes, eight and a half wins off eleven

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Speaker 2: They've been lucky to win a few games as well. True,

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Speaker 2: as A plus marks Adelaide, Gold Coast and Collingwood.

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Speaker 3: I would consider Adelaide an a not an A plus

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Speaker 5: Who have they beaten or who they've had to play.

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Speaker 3: Well, But in their chances against the top teams, they

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Speaker 3: haven't had the impressive defining win that says yes, we're

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Speaker 3: absolutely a contender. They are inarguably doing better than most

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Speaker 3: people thought they would seven and four. They're going to

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Speaker 3: play finals pretty sure, you know, fantastic work. But their

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Speaker 3: wins are over Sint Kilda, Essendon, North Gws, but that

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Speaker 3: So in their games against contenders like Geelong, the Coast,

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Speaker 3: the Gold Coast game and the Collingwood game close, but

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Speaker 3: they haven't got there yet. That's the only thing that

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Speaker 3: I would have as a negative on them. But otherwise

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Speaker 3: they're finally delivering on all the promise we saw on

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Speaker 3: them two years ago.

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Speaker 2: Sons are delivering on all the promise.

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Speaker 4: Oh they're flying at the moment, aren't they. They're going

447
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Speaker 4: absolutely brilliantly. So I think that's you couldn't have They

448
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Speaker 4: couldn't have done much better to start the year. I

449
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Speaker 4: don't think even there were some high expectations of them

450
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Speaker 4: from some some didn't have very high expectations. I think

451
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Speaker 4: they've done very well to just meet the moment when

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Speaker 4: they're being presented with them so far this year.

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Speaker 5: Other than losing the Richmond other than that that.

454
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Speaker 4: Was a considerable setback, but the rest of it's been

455
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Speaker 4: very good.

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Speaker 3: We would talk about them so differently the Suns if

457
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Speaker 3: they'd played that opening round game against Stendon, because they

458
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Speaker 3: would be top of the ladder right now because they

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Speaker 3: would have beaten.

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Speaker 5: Nessen in it.

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Speaker 3: Yes a heritage people, first bank Metroc above, so they

462
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Speaker 3: would be top of the ladder with the vibe isn't there.

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Speaker 5: Because their third the stupidity of this fixture.

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Speaker 2: The Suns are the lead of this next segment.

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Speaker 1: And now on the Foxwoody podcast, another strong edition of

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Speaker 1: Australia's favorite segment, Fair or Fast Max.

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Speaker 2: Gold Coast is the a.

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Speaker 5: Is this fair of face?

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Speaker 2: Fair? Far?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Fair fox okay, fair far Well.

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Speaker 3: I guess they were born from the AFL so in

473
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Speaker 3: a literal sense and they are the sons.

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Speaker 2: Mark Evans thought it there was a sense of the

475
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Speaker 2: comment had a sense of corruption tone about it.

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Speaker 5: What I found hilarious about this.

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Speaker 4: I think he just had a sense of ross about it.

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Speaker 4: That's what I had.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's funny that this is a date.

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Speaker 3: This dates back to Saint Kilda tweeting about Yees Ben

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Speaker 3: King back on draft night twenty eighteen. So the social

482
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Speaker 3: media manager of the Saints in twenty eighteen has caused this.

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Speaker 5: Good on you.

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Speaker 3: That's an impact on the footy industry. The funniest thing

485
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Speaker 3: about this, and what I found pretty hypocritical, was Mark

486
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Speaker 3: evans first comment about this to Sam Edmund Vessien was

487
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Speaker 3: that you know this is offensive, offensive and out of order,

488
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Speaker 3: and you'd think that the Saints more than anyone, would

489
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Speaker 3: know that progress isn't linear. Hey, don't take pot shots

490
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Speaker 3: at us. You've won one flag in one hundred and

491
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Speaker 3: fifty years. What you can't You can't complain about a

492
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Speaker 3: club insulting you and then inside them back at the

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Speaker 3: same time.

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Speaker 5: Is that not the height of pot kettle?

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Speaker 4: My word?

496
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Speaker 3: But I don't think Roth was wrong and I don't

497
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Speaker 3: think that the Sons are wrong. They're arguing reasonable points.

498
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Speaker 3: The Sons have got some benefits from the League of

499
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Speaker 3: the way things have been set up and the academy

500
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Speaker 3: pipeline they've got coming with another three or four first

501
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Speaker 3: round prospects yes likely coming through the door, is quite astounding.

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Speaker 3: And concerning for a team like the Saints who doesn't

503
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Speaker 3: have that benefit. But the Sains have had their benefits.

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Speaker 3: They've had some NBA prospects and stuff like that, and

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Speaker 3: they are fair enough to complain because they are in

506
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Speaker 3: the disadvantageous position of being a poor Victorian club.

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Speaker 2: Are the Sons being sensitive?

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Speaker 4: David No, I think there's a difference between being sensitive

509
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Speaker 4: and just standing up for your club, like just don't

510
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Speaker 4: you don't just cop that, like you don't cop that

511
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Speaker 4: lying down, just have a bar back and then just

512
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Speaker 4: so you can have jabs at us, but we'll jab back,

513
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Speaker 4: that's all. I don't think they're being overly sensitive. I

514
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Speaker 4: just think they're entitled to a response and then made

515
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Speaker 4: their response. And we love this.

516
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Speaker 3: This is exactly the type of content we want because

517
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Speaker 3: it's not personal. It's about clubs, so no one's mental

518
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: health is getting affected and it's fun.

519
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Speaker 4: Is we love this crack? Ross? Ross loves this crack?

520
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're I think we're a little bit over

521
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: clubs throwing potshots at the AFL and the AFLD is

522
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Speaker 2: trying to defend their position. But we haven't had a

523
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Speaker 2: lot of club the club kind of stuff yeah.

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Speaker 4: But he's also I think Ross is also having a

525
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Speaker 4: little go at the AFL of course. Yeah, and he's

526
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Speaker 4: been he's been a pest for them like this this

527
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Speaker 4: year he has been like he's just had dig what

528
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Speaker 4: does he said? He's gone on about the Gold Coast thing.

529
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Speaker 4: Then he went on about the VFL system. But what

530
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Speaker 4: he said, what do you mean?

531
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Speaker 5: How's he said it?

532
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Speaker 4: No, I'm not doing that. Come as we're not doing that.

533
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Speaker 4: And then you know he's speaking about the VFL system.

534
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Speaker 4: And then there was another one earlier this year of

535
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Speaker 4: the like he just keeps, he just keeps.

536
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Speaker 2: Getting as a weekly complaint to press conference at Adelaide Oval.

537
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Speaker 2: I want to say that where he had to crack,

538
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Speaker 2: I'll think of that.

539
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Speaker 4: And then he did the one where he just was

540
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Speaker 4: reverse questioning when no one cares what the reporters think.

541
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Speaker 4: They care about what the actual senior coach of the

542
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Speaker 4: football club thinks who's on the camera. But yeah, he's

543
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Speaker 4: he's a lot of.

544
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Speaker 2: Ross Zea Callum mills is one week ban is the

545
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Speaker 2: latest proof of poor Swan's discipline amid a big nose

546
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Speaker 2: dive for the club.

547
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Speaker 4: Fair or fast, I'd say fair, I mean Dean Cox

548
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Speaker 4: had to address it with the players heading into this

549
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Speaker 4: the weekend just gone and Callum Mills has still got

550
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Speaker 4: suspend it. I don't know what he was doing, Like,

551
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Speaker 4: it was just a weird act. So he was a

552
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Speaker 4: weird movement. It was just clumsy, So I know why.

553
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't think there's like an intent

554
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Speaker 4: to like they're not going out there. They're just being

555
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Speaker 4: clumsy and they're not. It's just sloppy.

556
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Speaker 2: Because really it was a weird one because I think

557
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Speaker 2: initially there was suggestions that it might have been a

558
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Speaker 2: three week band for coming his way is because.

559
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Speaker 4: Well if Spargo was cast then it would have been.

560
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Speaker 2: But it also but he also got two hands to

561
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Speaker 2: the ball at the same time we got one, didn't

562
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Speaker 2: it one or two?

563
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Speaker 4: Well, he sort of he bumped with one and then

564
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 4: he sort of cradled the ball came into his hand

565
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Speaker 4: with the air. It was just weird. It was just

566
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Speaker 4: a very odd and he leaped off the ground. It

567
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 4: was just such an odd way to move. Yeah, it

568
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Speaker 4: was just it just it was just a weird one.

569
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know. I don't know how much

570
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 4: rigor and there is to get off so I I

571
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Speaker 4: think that they maybe they would have challenged it if

572
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Speaker 4: it was two, but I think one they just cop

573
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Speaker 4: and move on. But Jeezu's had a nightmare run as.

574
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Speaker 2: He's barely played the back end of twenty twenty.

575
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Speaker 4: Sixth Jacob Constanty's shouldered what was it mad Monday.

576
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Speaker 5: Attack WRESM and then didn't he trip over?

577
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Speaker 4: He tripped over like something on the fence.

578
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Speaker 5: That's always fun.

579
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Speaker 3: You as frustrated as I am with the way people

580
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Speaker 3: misunderstand sanctions like Alex Pierce's and even this one. Yes,

581
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Speaker 3: because there was the commentary even around the Color Mills one,

582
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Speaker 3: people saying, oh, well, it's an outcome based system. It's unfair.

583
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: It's an outcome based system.

584
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: Right, It's not. It's an outcome based system once it's

585
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: deemed reportable, yes, like once it's a reportable offense, then

586
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 4: it's an outcome based system. Because it's was he can

587
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 4: cust that's like severe impact.

588
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 5: It has to be like the Paul Curtis one.

589
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there are incidents where I think we've had it.

590
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Speaker 4: What we have one where there was a concussion was

591
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Speaker 4: there not? And it wasn't. I forget what the incident

592
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 4: was but it's not. It's not a it's not outcome

593
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Speaker 4: based when they're deciding if it's reportable. It's outcome based

594
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: once they decided is reportable, that's the The sanction is

595
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Speaker 4: outcome based for the most part, particularly when there's a concussion,

596
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 4: but it's not outcome based when they're deciding is this

597
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 4: a reportable offense or not. So that's why some people

598
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Speaker 4: get off and some people, I mean the North Melbourne

599
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: look McDonald one, look McDonald, That's what I'm thinking of.

600
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Speaker 4: Jared Berry was concussed. Everyone thought I was going after

601
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Speaker 4: North Melbourne for some reason, which was weird, and but

602
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Speaker 4: ultimately he didn't. It wasn't a reportable action like what

603
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: he did wasn't reportable even though it resulted in the concussion.

604
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: So it's not outcome based, but people seem to just

605
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 4: think it is. And I don't know. It's got to

606
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Speaker 4: the point I don't know if we're actually going to

607
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 4: bring people back from there because people like experience. People.

608
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Speaker 3: Well, this is what brought this up for me was

609
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Speaker 3: watching nine on Sunday night.

610
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Speaker 5: Jimmy Bartell was going on about this.

611
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's people who I have a lot of respect

612
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 4: for in the media, but about lots of things. But

613
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Speaker 4: then they say things about like they say certain things

614
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Speaker 4: about the sanctions and outcome based it's just not it's

615
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Speaker 4: not true.

616
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Speaker 2: The frustration might be that a lot of the commentary

617
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: tends to come from x players who have played the

618
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Speaker 2: game and understand what it might be like to receive

619
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Speaker 2: or maybe give out certain hits, but might not necessarily

620
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Speaker 2: understand the nuance.

621
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Speaker 4: The assistant, which is which is fine, probably takes too

622
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 4: much work and a bit too it's a bit too complicated.

623
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Speaker 2: It is a certain kind of person to get right

624
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Speaker 2: in there.

625
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Speaker 3: Yes, but the core concept of you have to do

626
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: something wrong first and then you get sanctioned based on

627
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Speaker 3: the outcome. That's how the legals is works outside of

628
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: Footy two.

629
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I've sort of I haven't given it. Ah,

630
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 4: maybe I'm given up on it because they just people

631
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: just don't And I agree there are some decisions you're like, oh,

632
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 4: that's I wouldn't have reported that, but like people just don't.

633
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: They're convinced now and it's such an overwhelming It's like

634
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 4: the media, It's like journalists.

635
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 5: Suck because it's like no one wants to defend you,

636
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 5: like there's no.

637
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and no wants to defend the AFL and the

638
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 4: MR system. In the fact, maybe it's not as black

639
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 4: and white as you make it out to be, but

640
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 4: it's just like it gets to that point where you're like,

641
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 4: don't worry about it, just don't bother fighting that far.

642
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 3: My other question is why do you bother putting out

643
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: the tweets explaining the situation because everyone just thinks you

644
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: hate their club based on it. I do like North Melbourne.

645
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 4: Which no, that wasn't that was the Luke McDonald thing.

646
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: But even the free O one there were free of

647
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 3: fans going at you saying, oh, you've lost job, you activity?

648
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 5: How could you say this?

649
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 4: I haven't looked at my replies believe it.

650
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Speaker 5: That's probably for the best.

651
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, all the best to them.

652
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: Max Geelong will be lucky to escape with a fine

653
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: over full party payments fair or fast.

654
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: Well we don't know what they did, then, well what

655
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 3: are they reported to him? So Caroline Wilson, who's had

656
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: an interesting month with her report, so let's take it

657
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: with the she's a very good dead sea full of salts,

658
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: is that they have had some discrepancies with their third

659
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Speaker 3: party payments. Not reporting certain things. I know everyone wants

660
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 3: to believe and trust me, I get it that Geelong

661
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: are doing things under the table, and a lot of

662
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 3: footy clubs doing things under the table. If what the

663
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: audit has found is that they've forgotten to report certain things.

664
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: I think the one example site was an AFW player

665
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 3: getting a car. Yes, and they didn't get reported. Yeah,

666
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 3: fair enough find them for that. I think they get fined.

667
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: Brisbane got fined ten grand. I think in twenty seventeen.

668
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 4: Jeremy Cameron put a post them today with is Ford

669
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 4: yeah close. It was very funny and everything. I was like,

670
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 4: oh no, Jeremy read the room.

671
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 3: Well it's not the worst post by a Geelong player

672
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: about reading the room in this past week.

673
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: To be fair, what was the Bailey very good? Yes,

674
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 4: maybe we go to that now.

675
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: Oh Bailey Smith instant reply on the weekend, would you

676
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: said Bailey sniff? Bay Smith?

677
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: I thought he just said Bailey sniff, I've got a

678
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 4: little bit of a list, but you said anyway. Sorry,

679
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: I don't understand what just ask. The real reaction.

680
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: Bailey Smith's instant reply on the weekend went too far

681
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: or fun?

682
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: It doesn't. I don't care like fast. It doesn't. It

683
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 4: doesn't bother me.

684
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: Just for context, he said something about it was a

685
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: nosebyers question.

686
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 4: And he's like, not till after we win the flag,

687
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 4: mate or something.

688
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: No, he said, yeah, not now, but maybe after we've

689
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: win the flag, and then I think he followed it

690
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: up with a joking sponsors, et cetera, et cetera.

691
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I don't like it. I'm a little different.

692
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 5: I don't think you are different.

693
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: Doesn't It doesn't bother me.

694
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: Geelong, I have done a really good job at letting

695
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: Bailey be Bailey and it's not backfiring because he's starring

696
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: on the field and he's arguably the Brownlow Metal favorite

697
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: at the moment. Is there a point where Geelong one

698
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: might have to really.

699
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: You had to say? Is there?

700
00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: I said, is there a point?

701
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

702
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 4: Because I heard you the start of it and then

703
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 4: you shifted, which is very good by you. There. He's

704
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 4: a smart man.

705
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 5: He's got a nose for those sort of jokes.

706
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 4: Ah, very good. Well, No, I don't nothing he's done

707
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 4: is like I'll be like, oh, you can't do that.

708
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: What is he opinion?

709
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 5: The Devil's Advocate position. Drugs are drags are a serious issue.

710
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: Yes, the fantastic the drugs are a serious issue for

711
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: the AFEL to deal with. They're coming out with a

712
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: new drug policy soon, which appears like they're going to

713
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: be more serious about discretions like that sort.

714
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: Of Anyway, that's the whole nother kettle of fish.

715
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: The counter argument to that view would be that this

716
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 3: is a common thing in society. Yes, it's a societal problem,

717
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: but you know, treating it and punishing people by even

718
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: alluding to the use of substances is not helping, is it.

719
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 5: You know, no one.

720
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: Ballly Smith is not going to stop being Bailey Smith

721
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: and saying whatever's on his mind and posting immediately.

722
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 5: He is a born poster. He just puts out whatever

723
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 5: he thinks and a shirt on and it's great. Well

724
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 5: you would you would too if you look like him.

725
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 4: I would maybe not as much, but I would, actually

726
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: maybe I would. Yeah, I don't know. He's got quite

727
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 4: a nice rig.

728
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,239
Speaker 2: Max Collingwood was a Ford or the car.

729
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 5: It's a card.

730
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 4: No, No, he's got like a very chiseled abdom stomach.

731
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: That's one.

732
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: Max Collingwood was lucky to avoid a fine for a

733
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: last minute squad swamp North so fast.

734
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: Okay, no one's going to take it seriously coming from me,

735
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: because it's about.

736
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 4: Collingwood, exactly what I was thinking this.

737
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: Mitch Cleary also said it. So that's another Geelong fans.

738
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: What is the point of having emergencies if you can

739
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 3: pick from outside the emergencies as they did when replacing

740
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: Bobby Hill.

741
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: So Bobby Hill was out for personal reasons totally. And

742
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: Olig Markoff was in Bunnings and got the call saying

743
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: come into.

744
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: The matter which store he was in if he was

745
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: at a Master's going to.

746
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 4: Give you the A F L. Fells spin. They say

747
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 4: that there is. They say that there is a bunch

748
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 4: of these requests every year and they're often almost always denied.

749
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 4: This one was particularly exceptional and compelling. Obviously it's something

750
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: Laura Kaye can do as a gem of footy, and

751
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: just on this instance she said yes because of and

752
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 4: no we're not going to under Bobby Hill. So I

753
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: don't need you to tell me what's going on. I

754
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 4: just need you to tell me why you've done this.

755
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 4: They said, well, yeah, it's particularly it's exceptional and compelling.

756
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: We get a stack at these requests a year, and

757
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 4: they're denied virtually almost all of them. This one was

758
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 4: particularly out of the box. But Bobby Hill is training

759
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: and he's playing this week, So whatever it was, the

760
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: AFL deemed it exceptional and compelling enough that they could

761
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 4: justify someone from outside the emergencies coming in.

762
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: Okay, and I think broadly speaking, I am okay with that,

763
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: But the rule exists. Why do they not have to

764
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: first name their emergencies like other Yeah.

765
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 4: I agree without knowing that we shouldn't have to know

766
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 4: the reason, but it's just doesn't It just doesn't make

767
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: much sense.

768
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: Bobby Hill's reason doesn't really impact the decision to bring

769
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: in Markov, but what they had two possible debutants in

770
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: their emergencies. Okay, then you stuffed up your team sheet

771
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: and put the wrong people as emergencies, didn't you. Isn't

772
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: that Collingwoods fault? So it's not actually a big deal,

773
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: but it just seems a bit silly, right.

774
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: Yes, speaking of a lucky to escape again, Zeta Liam

775
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: Baker was lucky to escape with a fine, So you

776
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: reckon there's a chance of this going being.

777
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 4: They were going it up, They were weighing it up

778
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: throughout mushing James Peeling's Heaven to the turf couple of times,

779
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 4: like elbowing his head into the tur like just that's

780
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: just grubby. But I think everyone's like, that's not really

781
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 4: what Liam Baker's likes. So maybe it was a one

782
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: off thing. I don't know.

783
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: It sounds like they were really, as you mentioned, really

784
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: weighing it up.

785
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: Really yeah, and I probably, yeah, well, well it's more

786
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: work for me, but you yeah, I think I was.

787
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 5: Glad Michael Christian doesn't make decisions based on whether it's

788
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 5: better not.

789
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 4: Ye, there was there was a fine. He got a

790
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 4: fine for that, and then a fine for engaging in

791
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 4: a mela as well, So ultimately it was about it

792
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: was it was a fair chunk of money.

793
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: Five thousand I think before the early player.

794
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was never going to second. Yeah, he was

795
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: never going to not play attacking an early player on that,

796
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: so he's always going to just take the three. And

797
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 4: it was a three thousand, two hundred or something seventy five.

798
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 5: Very weird numbers.

799
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 4: I don't know how they were. They made a fortune

800
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 4: this week, like penalty units. We checked him downstairs today

801
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 4: on the MRO sheet, like they made like what doesn't

802
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 4: it grand?

803
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 5: Doesn't it go to concussion research theoretical?

804
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: Does it?

805
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 5: Isn't that where it's sposed to.

806
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 4: They've got a lot of.

807
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: Money research or previous has been community footy.

808
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 4: I think we're going to solve CTE by the end

809
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 4: of the They're flying the amount of money they make

810
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 4: every year off the fines. So I think he's very

811
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 4: lucky to escape with.

812
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: The film was a comparison to an incident with Jack

813
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: Viney a few years ago?

814
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 5: Oh yes, I can't remember that.

815
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: A couple of games. Yeah, for elbowing a player in

816
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: the Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen that. I'd be honest,

817
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: I haven't looked back at that one. But I think

818
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 4: that Liam Baker the best possible outcome is as fine

819
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: for him, like no wonder he took it.

820
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: That's the end of fair Fast.

821
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 3: Ye.

822
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: Now time for this on the Fox Foody podcast. It's

823
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: time to open up the mail bag. Have a question

824
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: for the panel. Tweetus every Monday morning at Fox Footy.

825
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: Opening Noise, Opening Noise, it's the mailbag.

826
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 4: What's our sting.

827
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 5: It's the thing that we've been playing for about two

828
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 5: or three We'll.

829
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: Still be kath Turkin, Well who's going to record it?

830
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: Every time we get someone to record it, they end

831
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: up leaving the company. So who do you want me

832
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 3: to death note.

833
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 5: Out of Fox Sports.

834
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 4: I'll do it.

835
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 5: Oh no, put on your sky it's great, I actually

836
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 5: do Here we go with the mail bag, Very lucky

837
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 5: David Zita and.

838
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 4: Tonight message Sands mail bag A box three.

839
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 5: One and now Garry Now Gary? Now Gary. Mitch asks.

840
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: The Bulldogs JV.

841
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 5: What are we dealing with?

842
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: That's fine, James, Other Bulldogs over hyped, asks Mith on

843
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: the same win question.

844
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 4: You can't have question in your handle and then have

845
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: a separate question.

846
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 3: That's not the name is to say it again, Mitch

847
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 3: asks other Bulldog.

848
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 4: I thought the user name was other Bulldogs over Hyped.

849
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 5: No, the question is from Mitch.

850
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: Other Bulldogs over hyped on the same wins as freeo

851
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: Eston and the Giants who have all been in the

852
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: firing line ZIP and for this season against teams currently above.

853
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: The wrong person to ask, because we know that Max

854
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: is well, No, That's why I'm guys am.

855
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 5: I over hyping them.

856
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 4: But what's the hype?

857
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: What is the high I still have them third in

858
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: the power rankings.

859
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 4: It doesn't bother me. Yeah, I think that's fine.

860
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: It's good. And who's below them?

861
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 5: Everyone except Collingwood and Gelong.

862
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: See, I probably put Brisbane ahead of them.

863
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 5: They did beat them, which helps.

864
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: But I think the Bulldogs, based on the underlying numbers

865
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: and all of that stuff which I look at, are

866
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 3: performing better than Brisbane despite the win loss record.

867
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: I think they're doing more with less considering the amount

868
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: of people that they haven't had access to.

869
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: True, who did you talk about the team before that?

870
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: Looking at the Gold Coast the teams that they've beaten

871
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: so far. So the teams that the Bulldogs have beaten

872
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 2: so far Essenon, Port Adelaide, Sinkilda, Carlton, the Giants, and

873
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 2: North Melbourne lost to Geelong, Brisbane, Gold Coast, Fremantle and Collingwood.

874
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: My counterpoint is that their losses have been by six, sixteen,

875
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: twenty one, ten and fourteen points.

876
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 5: They've been in every single game.

877
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 3: They have been in every game, and the Geelong game

878
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: felt a lot closer than a fourteen point margin.

879
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 5: They probably should have won that. Brisbane they led by

880
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 5: a bunch.

881
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: Frero was a weird game that like basically half a

882
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: quarter sided that in Frero's favor arguably should have beaten Collingwood.

883
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: The free kick count in Collingwood, Collingwood and Gelong games

884
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 3: is something like fifty nine to twenty six against them.

885
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: They've had some real misfortune. I know the free kick

886
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: count doesn't need to be even, but it's pretty arc

887
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: So a lot of that is why I rate the

888
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: Bodok so highly. But it's fair to point out that

889
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: they are seventh. They are on the same number of

890
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: winds as Essendon, who most people agree are not good.

891
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: I think you can argue that they're potentially fourth at

892
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: the moment. I think Colin with Brisbane Geelong your top three,

893
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: and they're probably ahead of Adelaide and Hawthorne.

894
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 5: I think that's fair.

895
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: I think colling with Brisbane and Along are the flag

896
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: ferrets and like the betting odds and stuff like that.

897
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: I except having Brisbane ahead because we know their track

898
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: record and they've got the what two and a half

899
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: wins extra on the board, which means a lot like

900
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: top four will still be difficult for the Dogs as

901
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: it always has been. The other mailbag questions have sort

902
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 3: of been covered, so thank you to everyone who has a.

903
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 4: Quick mail setting them in just the sort of junk mail.

904
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 5: Well, when we go through every team, there's no random teams,

905
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 5: I can get a question.

906
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 4: On what do you get? Yeah, they're no junk mail

907
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: signs that people haven't there. You just just write on

908
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: a piece of paper they've always got. You can buy

909
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: like a probably made no junk mail thing, maybe an

910
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 4: Australia post job, because that's seen that my apartment complex.

911
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 4: I just don't I've always wanted.

912
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 5: That'd be like a two dollar shop thing.

913
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 4: I don't want any I'll get a lot. Well, I

914
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: haven't checked my mailbox since the election, so there's a

915
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 4: lot in there properly to be fair, actual letters.

916
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: I don't think those stickers are legally binding, but they

917
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 3: always worked out who keeps getting junk mailed spite? Yeah,

918
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 3: really it's in the eye of who decides them.

919
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 4: Because then I think their mail isn't junk. That's so

920
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 4: people will think, well, my male is not junk. Is important?

921
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 3: I've got a fridge magnet for you. Yeah, I'm important,

922
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: you know things like that. Anyway, there was one other

923
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 3: question we can ask. Lockness has suffered a bed spasm,

924
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 3: asks why are there never any Foxes on Fox Footy

925
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: biodiversity issues.

926
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 4: There you go.

927
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: I asked a second question, answered, we were showing some

928
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: Richard Richard Attenborough programs or something would be fun.

929
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: Richard Atinborough, a well known elder statesman of the world.

930
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: Disc Richard at Brough.

931
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:07,959
Speaker 5: Or David Do you mean David?

932
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 4: Doesn't he mean David? Who's Richard Atenborough is the actor

933
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 4: who's in a drastic park. David, he's like ninety eight, Yeah,

934
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 4: fos he's going.

935
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: Well, apologies to David.

936
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 4: I can't believe you. Yeah, on your day.

937
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 5: Richards passed away in twenty fourteen.

938
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: David's still going.

939
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 5: No, he is, He's still surely you can.

940
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: You know why I reckon? It's because he keeps he

941
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: keeps himself working, he keeps is he still work?

942
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: Isn't that the thing that people say, like as soon

943
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: as I stopped working, I feel like I'll go sort

944
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 3: of thing.

945
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 4: Like, well he won't Yeah, he just won't go. He

946
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 4: just won't go.

947
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 3: Is that the secret immortality? Work works is great news.

948
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: I never leave the office of God.

949
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 4: All right?

950
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: Well, Kevin, Kevin, Yeah, Kevin, speaking of men, you love

951
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 3: to work and talk and talk and talk.

952
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 4: Because he's been busy last week Kevin, isn't he's been

953
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: in the news.

954
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: He was in the news, Kevin, that's true, and I

955
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: wonder if he'll be in the news again after this segment. No,

956
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: this is actually a bit of fun from Pockets of Greatness.

957
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: Of course, one of his biographies, certainly one of the

958
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 3: books written. There are words on a page and apparently

959
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: he said them. He wrote which is concerning well, it's

960
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: not even credit to him. It's credibly to Tom Pryor

961
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 3: as the author to Yes No prior. Kevin Cheaty says,

962
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 3: my mother rang me after I'd swung my jacket around

963
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: my head in front of the coach's box at the

964
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 3: mcg in nineteen ninety three to celebrate beating West Coast,

965
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: who had won the premiership in nineteen ninety two. I

966
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: thought mum was ringing to congratulate me on the win,

967
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 3: which made a near certainty of a double chance in

968
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: the finals. Instead, she said, Kevin, I'd just like to

969
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: remind you that.

970
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 5: There's an idiot born every day.

971
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: It's a terrible scene when a forty five year old

972
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 3: AFL coach is still being telephoned by his mother and

973
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: told he is an idiot. Mothers are pushing you around

974
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: in a pusher practically from day one, the day you're born,

975
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 3: and they're.

976
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 5: Still pushing you around forty five years later.

977
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I was so excited I

978
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: asked Mum, would you stop pushing me around if I

979
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: win the premiership? She said she would, but of course

980
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: she didn't.

981
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: She never stopped pushing him around.

982
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: It means proverbially rather than actually push. I don't think

983
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: a forty five year old Kevin Sheedy was being pushed

984
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: around in a pram.

985
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 4: You don't put the kid in from day one into

986
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 4: a pusher, into a pram.

987
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: Normally, don't go for a walk day as the father

988
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: of the as the father think we might have pushed

989
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: him maybe a week in.

990
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 4: I think really in a pram? I thought, you just

991
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 4: carry them everywhere.

992
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: Well, there's like you put him in a bassinette, which

993
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: is that you go very slowly.

994
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, well the king that's the thing that the baby's

995
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 4: facing you. Yes, like the thing like the thing you

996
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 4: wear you wear it on your Yeah.

997
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: Well yeah no. I d had Toby in a little

998
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: holder within a few so they're in prams from that

999
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: that quick, each their own. He to give parenting advice,

1000
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: just why not sharing my It could be a new step.

1001
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 4: Can they get in cars? Yeah?

1002
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: Well, how are I supposed to? Actually one of the

1003
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: most intimidating experiences. That's the last thing you think.

1004
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 4: Of is what do I do with my You can't

1005
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 4: put the child in the baby seat in their seats

1006
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 4: because they're too small. Nuts, you just have to hold

1007
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: the baby in the car.

1008
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: Photo of a because we came home very early. This

1009
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: photo of maybe eighteen hour. Oh baby, it's nuts.

1010
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: Eighteen well eighteen hour?

1011
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 5: Did they need to quick? Did they need the bed?

1012
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 5: What's going on?

1013
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: One? They're kicking in and out?

1014
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: That's our public health system today. Eighteen hours and Kevin

1015
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: in public ridiculous, Thanks keV.

1016
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: keV.

1017
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: It's now time to look at the tips in the cup.

1018
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: So just the seven games this weekend with a few

1019
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: teams having the bike, isn't it so.

1020
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 5: Much easier doing all of out every club pieces this week?

1021
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 2: Team tips is a dream This week Brisbane and Esson

1022
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: on Thursday night for the Damian Cupido Cup, and there's

1023
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: a chance that players taken by es twenty four hours

1024
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 2: earlier could be playing for them at the gab on

1025
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: Thursday night.

1026
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 5: If you are colleague.

1027
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: Jack Dravinoski, who read that in Team Chips scoffed, thinking

1028
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: he was going to remove it, and then I had

1029
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: to explain to him, no, no, that's been discussed, being discussed,

1030
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: and he said he's going to eat a hat if

1031
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 3: it happens.

1032
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 5: He did say that, he documented it's in the WhatsApp.

1033
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: So but what was smart there was that he didn't

1034
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: say my hat. He said a which means he can

1035
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 3: purchase a hat which is edible.

1036
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 4: Could you just get like a lolly that's shaped like it,

1037
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 4: like a hat lolly or something.

1038
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 5: Do they have those? Well, you can just you know,

1039
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 5: or a nacho hat.

1040
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it'd be pretty easy. Start to get out

1041
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 4: of that.

1042
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 5: Speaking of pretty easy, Brisbane, Brisbane, hold on, did we

1043
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 5: not do the Dogs?

1044
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 4: What?

1045
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: Which dogs?

1046
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 4: Did we do the first game?

1047
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: What's the first game?

1048
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 4: The Dogs and the Hawthorne Nope, I'm in the wrong week. Sorry, sorry, Brian.

1049
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 5: It's going to be tough on the Hawks to play

1050
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 5: game Dogs and Hawks.

1051
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: I think have the buy this weekend the Dogs. They

1052
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: play in the next game against Collingwood for the Max

1053
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: Lynch Cup. This is the only game in Victoria this weekend.

1054
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 3: After last weekend where like every Victorian team played in Victoria.

1055
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: It was like a reverse gatheround except the Western club

1056
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: stay away, we don't want you.

1057
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 5: Collingwood.

1058
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: Collingwood are the best team in the comp right now,

1059
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 3: and Hawthorne are slightly questionable, although they do a pretty

1060
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: good record against the Pipes.

1061
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 4: I will go for Collingwood.

1062
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: Gold Coast and Freeman Greg brought.

1063
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 3: Grabs you gold Coast at home. They are five home

1064
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: wins away from.

1065
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 5: Clinching a final spot. Pretty much this should be one of.

1066
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: Them good chances.

1067
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 4: So for Freo to well, this would be very freer.

1068
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: I think it is in Frio's best interests that no

1069
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: one is expecting them to win this game.

1070
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 5: Certainly, I gave it the suns to when and.

1071
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: When people talk about the most the most random game

1072
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: to talk about, and it's broadcasting or Crown because everyone says, well,

1073
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: imagine if it was gold Coast v. Fremantle, Well, it's

1074
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: gold Coast b. Fremantle is pretty It's meant as an

1075
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: insult that the Giants and Richmond Anthony Miles cup up

1076
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: for grabs here.

1077
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: Do you think more people will go to Gold Coast

1078
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: Frio than went to Gold Coast and Kilda because it

1079
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: was thirteen thousand at Marvel.

1080
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 5: It's pretty bad.

1081
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: Yes, potentially, it's a genuine chance potentially.

1082
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 5: Anyway, it's a better it's a better.

1083
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: Saturday one twenty is a nice slot.

1084
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 5: It's a bit hot though, isn't it over there up there?

1085
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 4: Ye?

1086
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 5: In late May. Actually crowd figure would not be great

1087
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 5: for this one either.

1088
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 2: I suspect Giants and Richmond Saturday Twilight.

1089
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: No Giants will win though, so that would be good

1090
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: for the Giants Giant fan there.

1091
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 2: It's Ryan Fitzgerald's Grand Final week. Sydney and Adelaide.

1092
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 3: You'll be on the back page, no doubt, Yes, be

1093
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: talking about it.

1094
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 2: Very a very good show to back page.

1095
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 5: It's quality.

1096
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: I think this is the type of game that Adelaide wins.

1097
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: If they're a real contender, they have to win.

1098
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 4: So do you think they win it? Yeah? Yeah, I'd

1099
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 4: go for the.

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Speaker 5: Crossing to tip them narrowly, but yeah, it's it's a

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Speaker 5: tough one.

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Speaker 2: Melbourne and Sint Kilda for the first time for the

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Speaker 2: Dean Kent.

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Speaker 3: The inaugural in Alice Springs of course, where he would

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Speaker 3: want it to be awarded.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Melbourne, Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: And West Coast and Geelong for the David Haynes Cup.

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Speaker 5: The very exciting Sunday night game.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'll be in the office with me. You need

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Speaker 4: to Yeah, great, real late finish that one.

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Speaker 3: I'll finish at like nine to fifty. It's a Saturday

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Speaker 3: sort of finished, and then we'll have first Crack. Always

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Speaker 3: fun when first crack is starting in the wee hour.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so we've got Melbourne seon Killer three twenty bounce

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Speaker 2: of course, and then West Coast and Geelong into crack.

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Speaker 4: Oh jeez, that's late crack so to speak, Geelong, Geelong.

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Speaker 2: That is all we have time for on the Fox

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Speaker 2: Footy podcast. David now is to go to get Beautiful

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Speaker 2: for more beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Thank you Max. Thank you.

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