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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitz and whipp A podcast.

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Speaker 2: The star of Creed three it's out today. We love

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Speaker 2: this movie fitting I saw it the other day and

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Speaker 2: the star of the movie is Michael B. Jordan and Michael.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Shaven. A couple of tough boxes here, mate.

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Speaker 3: Nice, nice, nice man. I need to come over. And

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Speaker 3: I've been waiting to get to Australia for a long

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Speaker 3: time now. I can't wait to come visit.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean technically, I haven't had my first bout.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've wrestled with a few smallgaspords and a

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Speaker 2: few buffets, and I always win.

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Speaker 3: I always wins under.

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Speaker 4: He's undefeated with a devastation, Michael. He always wins. Congratulations, mate,

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Speaker 4: it's unbelievable. You're a director now and this has played

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Speaker 4: a huge role in a lot of people's lives, from

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Speaker 4: Rocky to Creed. A lot of people love this franchise,

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Speaker 4: so Mate, to run it yourself, you must be over

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Speaker 4: the moon. A lot of work, but congratulations, Thank you

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Speaker 4: so much.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I'm really excited. You know, the last three years of

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Speaker 3: my life, I've been working on this project. You know,

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Speaker 3: from preparation to execution, so just like just really excited

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Speaker 3: to kind of get it out and share it with

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Speaker 3: the world. It means a lots of me.

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Speaker 2: That must be hard though, Like you know, when you

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Speaker 2: think of an idea or you have you're excited about

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Speaker 2: an initial concept. To try and keep that energy the

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Speaker 2: whole way through must have been really hot and you've

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Speaker 2: got to be across every detail.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, things evolve and they change,

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Speaker 3: and you know you have to fight for your your

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Speaker 3: your themes and your you know, you fight for you

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Speaker 3: fight for your movie. You know, you gotta fight for

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Speaker 3: fight for your your story and the.

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Speaker 4: Truth through and through.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, there is a pace in and endurance that

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Speaker 3: you must have to kind of keep that energy, you know,

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Speaker 3: through three years. That's how I got to get it done.

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Speaker 3: But you but you find you know, there's checkpoints, there's

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Speaker 3: there's moments that you know, you get invigorated and you

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Speaker 3: get re energized, you know what I'm saying, and you

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Speaker 3: kind of push for the next kind of the next

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Speaker 3: phase of it, you know. So so there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of lot of battles, you know, so you win something,

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Speaker 3: you lose something.

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Speaker 2: In the end.

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Speaker 4: The theme of this movie is redemption. Actually, Michael, I

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Speaker 4: wanted to ask you about this. I read this a

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Speaker 4: bit the other day. You did a red carpet recently,

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Speaker 4: and when you talk about redemption, there was some someone

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Speaker 4: from school that used to have a go at you

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Speaker 4: about bringing your headshot to school and you called them out. Actually,

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Speaker 4: this is the moment where she introduced you on the

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Speaker 4: red carpet.

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Speaker 1: Why not? So shall We got Michael B. Judd and

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Speaker 1: the director and the star of Creed three, and you

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Speaker 1: know we know each other. We go way back, all

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Speaker 1: the way to chat science and new work. Okay, corn Cuna,

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Speaker 1: I did not say that misquoted for sure. No, you

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Speaker 1: did not hear me say I thought we used to

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Speaker 1: make fun of the names.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what were you thinking in that moment, Michael,

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Speaker 4: because I mean that's a story of redemption in itself

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Speaker 4: when you see her face, I mean, where you're going

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Speaker 4: to stay quiet or you just had to point it out.

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Speaker 3: It was just a moment. Honestly, I don't even want

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Speaker 3: to give that moment any more energy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a good way to put it.

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Speaker 4: Well, but do you know what this is the theme

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Speaker 4: of the movie. And then you know, and this is

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Speaker 4: like chasing your dreams, that Donnas is coming out of retirement.

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Speaker 4: It's a huge thing to carry that onto the screen.

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Speaker 4: So we get to see that. Michael, I think it's

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Speaker 4: big man.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, for Adna's Creed and know and

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Speaker 3: Damien Anderson, you know, we needed an antagonist that had

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Speaker 3: the emotional weight but also the complexities and the layers

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Speaker 3: that we have of our hero to really challenge them

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Speaker 3: and make them feel uncomfortable, you know, and who you know,

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Speaker 3: who's better to hurt you than somebody that knows all

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Speaker 3: your weaknesses, that knows you, you know what I'm saying. Like,

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Speaker 3: So that was something that we really wanted to play

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Speaker 3: with and explore because life's hard, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: It's obstacles. It doesn't favor anybody. So to be able to,

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Speaker 3: you know, to see a character like a Donna's Creed

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Speaker 3: still have hardships and still kind of overcome those obstacles

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Speaker 3: and reach it to the mountaintop, we kind of feel

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Speaker 3: like we could do it too. So that was something

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Speaker 3: that I really wanted to kind of ingrain and have

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Speaker 3: through this project.

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Speaker 4: Love that Sylvestis line. He helps produce this, did he

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Speaker 4: help out at mal I'm so sorry. That is our time. Okay,

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Speaker 4: thank you Michael bay Jordan. Thank you very much for

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Speaker 4: joining guys.

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Speaker 2: No problem, Thanks buddy, Bye bye.

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Speaker 4: That's what happens when you only get four minutes with

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Speaker 4: Michael B. Jordan and then someone just comes out over

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Speaker 4: the top halfway through a qush. You've run out of time.

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Speaker 2: What's quite fun in those situations is to just keep talking.

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Speaker 2: How fake you can go to the line.

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Speaker 4: Does someone didn't we We just ignored them and they

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Speaker 4: got really angry and over again, just kept going Gray

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Speaker 4: three out very very soon. Great to thank you Michael B. Jordan,

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Speaker 4: thanks for coming on.

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