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Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the Front.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kristin Amiot. It's Monday, December twenty nine, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: The voices that defined summer for generations of Australians Richie Benno,

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Speaker 2: Tony Greg, Bill Lourie and others. Now a new generation

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Speaker 2: of cricket commentators is heralding the game into a new,

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Speaker 2: high tech and sometimes hilarious era. Today, The Australians Media

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Speaker 2: editor and big time cricket fan James Madden reflects on

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Speaker 2: cricket's storied.

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Speaker 1: Broadcast history and the path forward.

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Speaker 2: For one of the nation's favorite games. So, James, most

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Speaker 2: listeners to the Front will know you as The Australian's

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Speaker 2: media editor. But last time we talked about cricket broadcasting

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Speaker 2: on the Front, it was also revealed you have a

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Speaker 2: pretty solid Richie Beno impression.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was a It was an overcast in Melbourne

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Speaker 3: and the Victorians were sent into bat after losing the toss.

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Speaker 4: They're in early trouble at about two to thirty.

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Speaker 2: I believe you can tell a lot about a person

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Speaker 2: by who they think is the voice of the summer.

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Speaker 1: Who is that for you? When it comes to the cricket.

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Speaker 3: Great question and you know, if you'd asked any Australian

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Speaker 3: twenty years ago, it would have been Richie alongside his comrades,

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Speaker 3: Tony Bill all the rest of the gang.

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Speaker 5: It's two for two through two right shut off, a

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Speaker 5: big right over the top the little mans.

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Speaker 4: It's a big gulla for six.

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Speaker 1: Gone again. Oh there she goes. That's a twelve and.

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Speaker 5: Live roller would have about as much of an effect

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Speaker 5: as a couple of Koala bears doing the part of

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Speaker 5: the come more football.

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Speaker 2: He's put his foot straight down the line, the ball

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Speaker 5: There it is great moment history of Australian Test cricket.

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Speaker 1: It's been a marvel's game here.

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Speaker 3: But these days, in the last decade cricket commentary has

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Speaker 3: really evolved and some of the technology used in some

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Speaker 3: of these cricket broadcasts is phenomenal. And it's not just

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Speaker 3: you know nicks on the bat or ball tracking technology.

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Speaker 3: It's whether or not the batsman his body is in

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Speaker 4: It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: So the technology has added a lot and it's come

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Speaker 3: a long way since Tony Gregg used to stick the

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Speaker 3: or if there was moisture in the wicket. These days

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Speaker 3: you've got the lights of Adam Gilchrist Mark Wore, both

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Speaker 3: those guys on Foxtel alongside others. Seven's got Ricky Ponting,

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Speaker 3: Matthew Hayden, Justin Langer. ABC Radio has got Darren Lehman,

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Speaker 3: who not only a former Test player but also former coach.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of these former players of the later generation,

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Speaker 3: after the Benot's and the Chapels and the Greggs and

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Speaker 3: former players and now at the forefront of commentary. And

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Speaker 3: that's a pretty great thing because they have of unparalleled

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Speaker 3: insight into the game. To take nothing away from the

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Speaker 3: commentators such as Jim Maxwell, who is on ABC Radio

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Speaker 5: Paddy Hoardy, everybody here, we are having a bit of fun,

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Speaker 4: But people might recall Shane Warn.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people probably have forgotten since his death

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Speaker 3: how great a commentator he was. He could see the

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Speaker 3: So I think, given that the game has changed a

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Speaker 2: We've also seen as great of the women's game have

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Speaker 1: We've had Lisas Delaka, Isha Gua.

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Speaker 2: We've even got between games the current Women's Test captain

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Speaker 2: Alyssa Heay jumping into the country box.

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Speaker 1: How do you think that's in acted the way people

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Speaker 1: watch cricket.

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Speaker 3: The women's game itself has just gone from strength to strength.

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Speaker 4: Who doesn't love cricket every day of.

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Speaker 2: The year and they I believe it was a couple

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Speaker 1: They are playing dozens of games every.

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Speaker 3: The fact that there's so many female commentators is also

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Speaker 3: And I can remember it was a long time ago,

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Speaker 4: About cricket all the rest of it.

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Speaker 3: That narrative is so far gone thankfully now and we've

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Speaker 3: and it's fantastic and it's good for the listener and

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Speaker 1: What do you think it is about the cricket commentary

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Speaker 2: Obviously you need people who can both entertain and bring

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Speaker 2: five days, unless it's England in the first Ashes test.

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Speaker 2: What is it about the cricket commentary that makes it

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Speaker 3: The key difference is you've got to fill in the gaps.

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Speaker 3: I suppose, like any sport, you've got to be able

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Speaker 3: to call the action, and people do it differently. Richie

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Speaker 3: James Brayshaw on Channel seven and Triple M who's great,

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Speaker 3: but he becomes hysterical at times, which is entertaining. But

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Speaker 3: it's very far removed from cricket commentary of the past.

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Speaker 3: But I think the one factor across all the commentators

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Speaker 3: because I think there's a statistic once that about eighty

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Speaker 3: obviously everyone's been in the car and they've listened to

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Speaker 3: nine Bill Laurie used to talk about the pigeons and

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Speaker 3: lot of talk about birthday cakes and where the commentators

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Speaker 3: seven hours. And all these guys and girls that I've

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Speaker 3: Can they add that entertainment factor? Not all of them can,

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Speaker 3: but the very good ones have to.

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Speaker 2: I think it's what is not said as well that

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Speaker 2: the broadcast of the first Ashes Test in November. It

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Speaker 2: He might not say that, maybe regret for some of it,

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Speaker 2: despair some of the comments.

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Speaker 1: That he'd made.

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Speaker 2: The former player most recently added to some of the

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Speaker 2: commentary teams has been David Warner. He only retired last summer.

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Speaker 2: How's he faring and what do you think he brings

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing I suppose about Dave Warner is, as

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Speaker 3: so he is expected, obviously to offer at times fairly

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Speaker 3: harsh appraisals of players with whom twelve months ago he

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Speaker 3: the Pertest I think where there was controversy surrounding was

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Speaker 3: I thought handled it quite well, was fairly diplomatic, but

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Speaker 3: pointing out the challenges that Kwaja faces. So that's something

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Speaker 3: that somebody like Warner and even some of the other

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Speaker 3: have to traverse. It's only natural they don't want to

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Speaker 3: they're paid and paid well to offer pretty strident analysis

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Speaker 3: of what's going on.

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Speaker 4: That's a tricky thing for some commentators.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting when Osmond Kwaja was off

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Speaker 3: Me, and in a way that goes to what we

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Speaker 3: were saying before in terms of filling the space of

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Speaker 3: a broadcast. Some of these ex cricket players, and they've

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Speaker 3: all got so many stories, even if it's so keep

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Speaker 3: talking about some technicality is a game. It fills the

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Speaker 3: game and these ex players. It's Taylor made for a

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Speaker 3: few back in my day stories.

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Speaker 2: Someone. We cannot have this conversation in this day and

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Speaker 2: age without talking about someone who's become a bit of

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Speaker 2: a cult hero online, and that's Kerry Okey, also known

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Speaker 2: as Skull. What do you make of the particular brand

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Speaker 2: of chaos the Skull brings to the commentary.

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Speaker 3: Well, probably he was launched off the back of his

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Speaker 1: And nobody laughs at Skull's jokes.

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Speaker 4: He as much a skull, That's true. That's true, and

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Speaker 5: If I could talk technically, Jim, this pitch is drier

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Speaker 3: Is brilliant addition to any commentary team he's on. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: he cut his teeth as a commentator with ABC going

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Speaker 3: of Fox Tell, a very important team member. I suppose

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Speaker 3: he plays in a way the court jester role. But

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Speaker 3: again he's a former test player of some note and

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Speaker 3: has brilliant insights into the game. I think the brilliance

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Speaker 3: there's going to be a real, really inappropriate gag or

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Speaker 5: It's a special day because people come for it. It's

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Speaker 5: a reunion day, and there's a buzz in the crowd

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Speaker 5: prior to the first ball, and everybody watches the first

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Speaker 1: Why broadcasters still want the cricket.

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Speaker 2: Last time we talked about the cricket broadcasting in general, well,

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Speaker 2: there was a big question mark over who would get

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Speaker 2: the broadcast rights that, as I understand it is now

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Speaker 2: locked in for the next few years. We've got Channel

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Speaker 2: seven has the free to air rights, Fox Sports is

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Speaker 2: on streaming, and then ABC Grandstand has the radio broadcast rights.

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Speaker 2: Is the cricket and particularly the longer formats, which some

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Speaker 2: people might argue are falling out of favor with viewers.

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Speaker 1: For something faster, more entertaining like T twenty.

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Speaker 2: Attractive to broadcast has given just the sheer volume of

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Test cricket is valuable to broadcasters. Last season when

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Speaker 3: Australia played India in five Tests out here, that did

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Speaker 3: amazing numbers for TV and radio, and then certainly in

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Speaker 3: the first Test in Perth, even though it only lasted

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Speaker 3: two days, I think it was up sixty percent on

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Speaker 3: the India Test the same time twelve months back, so

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Speaker 3: those numbers are astonishing. It was unfortunate for the broadcasters

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Speaker 3: Seven and Foxtel that was only two day tests in

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Speaker 3: Perth because they would have lost advertising revenue and eyeballs

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Speaker 3: and momentum and all of that.

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Speaker 4: But cricket is very valuable.

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Speaker 3: The three big sports rights in Australia are AFL, NRL

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Speaker 3: and cricket. Crickets unique insofar as when India or England

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Speaker 3: are in Australia it's an absolute bonanza. They are the

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Speaker 3: they attract a lot of support given for a start,

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Speaker 3: the number of Indian supporters out here and same with England,

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Speaker 3: and it's always competitive. So when those teams are out

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Speaker 3: here in our summer, it's a gold mine for the broadcasters.

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Speaker 3: When you've got teams that don't have as much support,

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Speaker 3: let's say Pakistan, West Indies, South Africa, New Zealand, those

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Speaker 3: summers by the broadcasters are considered down summers because they're

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Speaker 3: just not in the same ballpark as in India England series.

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Speaker 3: So I suppose with the broadcast rights it's never going

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Speaker 3: to be gangbusters every single season, but increasingly Australia is

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Speaker 3: playing India more often, so that helps the coffers of

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Speaker 3: the broadcasters and of Cricket Australia.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.

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